can i ask a question. why 655m? is it to get tallest tower title? it only has to go above 610m for that.
ive worked out first turret is up approx250m and 2nd turret is 515m high. bloody high up

but isn't the tallest tower under construction right now is Burj Dubai and the final height of that is over 800m, and there's not even an official final height for it yet. The observation tower in E City has to go much taller than 655m if it wants to be the tallest in the world.

with 655m it will not be the tallest structure on earth but the tallest TV/Observation Tower

will it have more than the two hubs as stop of points ?

for me, this design is okay. but i would prefer if they revive the design of the Centennial Tower which was supposed to be completed in time for Philippine Centennial Celebration in 1998.

do you have an illustration of that?

:okay: Tokyo Stock Exchange disclosure:

Aruze to spend Y250B on casino in RP
Bloomberg
April 28, 2008

Tokyo - Aruze Corp., a Japanese maker of arcade machines, plans to spend about Y250 billion (US$2.4 billion) to build and operate a casino in Manila, Philippines.

Aruze, the largest shareholder of Las Vegas-based Wynn Resorts, Ltd., expects as early as next month to get government approval for the project, which includes a hotel, amusement facilities and a commercial complex.

Operations are expected to start around April 2010, Aruze said in a statement distributed Friday at the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

Tokyo-based Aruze said it would seek expertise to run the facility from Stephen Wynn, chief executive officer of Wynn Resorts.

:banana::banana:

where was the site again?

^scan the previous pages.

do you have an illustration of that?

i just saw it on TV. It was alot better. It has got to do with the three island groups of the Philippines (Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao).

http://www.aruze.com/en/ir/releases/2008/20080425_e_pr2.pdf

Casino Project in the Philippines

As announced in its “Business Realignment and Future Business Development” press release issued December 20, 2007, ARUZE GROUP seeks to commence the operation of a casino resort in the Asian region, which shall be conducted independently by ARUZE CORP. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”).

The successful operation of a casino resort necessitates rich knowledge and experience regarding hotel construction and operation, know-how concerning the creation of attractive facilities and superior personnel fully acquainted with casino resort operation. A project team has been established by the Company for the purpose of securing the above. Out of the abovementioned elements, where essential management-based know-how is concerned, the Company intends to proceed with the project under the full guidance of Wynn Resorts, Limited’s Steve Wynn.

The concept proposed by the Company for the “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City” project, which is currently being planned for the area of reclaimed land in the Philippine capital of Manila, has been highly received by the Philippine government. Based on this positive reception, the Company has initiated preparations towards materializing this business in the below manner, and has commenced arrangements for the site to be used.

Outline of Casino Project

(1) Site to Be Acquired - Plot of land adjacent to “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City”

(2) Planned Area - 40 hectares (400,000 square meters)

(3) Primary Facilities - Casino hotel, aquarium, art museum, sports facilities, Ferris wheel, commercial facilities, etc.

(4) Business Scale - Estimated total of approx. 250 billion JPY

(5) Future Timetable*
Site and provisional license acquisition: Between end of May 2008 and end of July 2008
Commencement of construction: Around Jan. 2009
Opening of casino and other facilities: Around Apr. 2010

*The acquisition of a provisional license is currently in the stages of deliberation. The above timetable is that foreseen by the Company at the current stage, and is subject to change in the future.

Further details will be provided in full once the site has been secured and acquisition of the license has been confirmed.

found this on the philippine forums

i just saw it on TV. It was alot better. It has got to do with the three island groups of the Philippines (Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao).

Where did you see it on tv? is there a new render that they just released?

yeah honestly where. we don't have GMA here in America anymore so don't say 4 Oras. :lol:

hmmmmm the design is pretty Las-Vegas style decent

Go Philippines!

This would bring Philippines to the TOP of the world ahahaha

http://Going beyond gaming to sustain economic growth Print this page | View complete report (682 KB. PDF)

Going beyond gaming to sustain economic growth



Efraim C. Genuino, chairman and CEO of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp., or PAGCOR, (second from right) shows the resort-type Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City to foreign guests.

Over the past five years, the Philippine economy has grown primarily due to increasing remittances sent by overseas Filipino workers. Even based on the most conservative estimates, these inflows account for 25 percent of the country’s GDP.

While income from overseas workers buoys the economy, the downside of foreign currency remittances points to the so-called brain drain of skilled Filipino professionals in search of high wages abroad.

According to Efraim C. Genuino, chairman and CEO of the Philippine Amusement & Gaming Corp., or PAGCOR, Filipino workers must be given opportunities to practice their trade at competitive salaries domestically if the growth of the Philippine economy is to be sustainable.

‘‘The Philippines can be the next dragon in Asia. If our infrastructure and brain drain challenges can be addressed, I think this country can be great again. We are a rich country pretending to be poor. We have the natural resources and the labor to succeed. Within PAGCOR, we would like to do our part by paying our employees competitive dollar-denominated salaries. After all, if Filipinos receive their salaries in dollars, there is no need for us to go abroad,’’ he says.

In line with those objectives, PAGCOR hopes to generate that new kind of employment through its largest and ambitious project — the Bagong Nayong Pilipino (New Filipino City) — a multiphase project initially being constructed on 85 hectares of reclaimed land by Manila Bay this year.

Phase II of the project has a grander scope. It entails the construction of several ‘‘retirement cities’’ within a 700-hectare reclaimed territory. These themed cities are aimed at three nationalities, including Koreans and Japanese.

‘‘Our vision is to help the Japanese by putting up a Japanese city where Japanese retirees can stay and be treated by Japanese doctors. Although Japan is the second-largest economy in the world, it has had to accept that it can no longer service the needs of its baby boomer retirees. A $2,000 pension per month is not enough for these retirees to live in Japan. If they use that money here in the Philippines, however, it is more than enough to live a comfortable life,’’ explains Genuino.


PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Efraim C. Genuino is named one of the ‘‘People of the Year’’ by People Asia Magazine in 2006.

‘‘The Bagong Nayong Pilipino Japanese city addresses the needs and problems of the Japanese government on how to sustain the 3 million nationals over the age of 90 and the 35 percent or so of its population over the age of 60. In Japan, medical facilities are too limited to service all retirees while there are too few foreign nurses and caregivers due to the restrictions placed on them,’’ he says.

Bagong Nayong Pilipino addresses the needs of retirees who want readily available medical care. In Bagong Nayong Pilipino, Japanese doctors can practice assisted by capable Filipino doctors and nurses. Finally, it addresses the needs of the Philippine government to generate more local employment for our healthcare workers, many of whom are trying to go overseas. So it is a win-win situation for all,’’ he adds.

Phase II of the Bagong Nayong Pilipino will be the first time an Asian country has aimed at attracting a specific retiree community without a bilateral agreement. Although the initiative can be viewed as an act of diplomacy itself.

‘‘As Japan is an important stabilizer in Asia, the stability of Japan is very important to the Philippines. Since the Philippines has the manpower, resources and investment to offer a creative solution to Japan’s retiree problem, I hope the Japanese government realizes the urgency of this situation and extends us a welcoming hand,’’ states Genuino.

The plans for Bagong Nayong Pilipino are part of Genuino’s larger vision to transform PAGCOR into an internationally visible brand.

‘‘We envision making PAGCOR one of the leading contributors of the Philippine government in terms of employment and poverty alleviation. What I tell my people every day is to visualize PAGCOR as a global corporation with a global mind-set and a Filipino heart, and it will come true,’’ says Genuino.

looking forward to the next tallest tower in the world!!!! GO MANILA!!

There are hundreds of high-rises in Metro Manila. All we need is at least one in the supertall category.

Edit: By the way. If NAIA will still be open when DMIA is complete, and possibly the opening of a Sangley Point International Airport, how will this affect the air traffic?

Go Go Go My MANILA!

If this tower would be built, envy will run all over the world except for Middle East! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This will never get built...Even if foreign investors back this up (which won't happen) just the threat of earthquakes and typhoons in the Philippines will have the engineers not approve building it...

they also build Taipe 101 in an earthquake zone ^^

Yes everything has a solution. If the Philippines has overcome nature's forces and has successfully built this, then it will be a greater achievement for the Philippines.

This will never get built...Even if foreign investors back this up (which won't happen) just the threat of earthquakes and typhoons in the Philippines will have the engineers not approve building it...



Ummm, take a look at downtown New Orleans after hurricane Katrina - All of the high-rises were mostly undamaged except for broken windows here and there. I have a picture of some Texas hi-rises that took a direct hit by a tornado. The Tornado funnel (an F4 with 200mph plus winds), actually collided into the buildings - that ripped the glass cladding off to a big degree, but the structures held up fine in each of these cases - one of them was being remodeled and sold for high-rise condos. And might I further add that these were regular high-rise 20-35 story towers that were not designed for any extremes - They were just put together well. Did you know that the World Trade Center was able to withstand a category 5 hurricane (actually it was rated to withstand 250mph winds)? These huge structures that look like they would be more prone, are actually quite stout. Then you consider something like the Empire State Building - There is so much steel and stone on that structure, that it was estimated it would take a 1200 mph wind gust to take it down! Thats not a typo. That is why they are happily building towers in Miami (Florida), as long as they are built with windows to withstand winds of 165mph. You could watch all kinds of shit blowing by from your high-rise apt, and know that your building wont collapse - just sway :cheers:

I can tell you that in Los Angeles, the high rises in downtown were not seriously damaged from our recent quakes (damage being limited to broken windows), because of the way they were built. A super tall, that was designed and had extensive engineering for this sort of thing, is safer than a 5 story building that didnt have this kind of thought put into it.. We have the US Bank Tower here which was constructed to handle the giant quake we are expecting (8.0 to 8.5 range, 2 to 7 minutes long) and that is OVER 300 meters.. The structures on these large buildings actually absorb some of the shock from the quake, and others employ dampeners or struts to further address the issue.

A hurricane (or Cyclone), or earthquakes are just things that have to be planned for, but modern engineering can easily address these issues...

http://www.manilabaycity.com/Manila_Bay_City_09.jpg

http://www.manilabaycity.com/Manila_Bay_City_10.jpg

runway is so near. :uh:

runway is so near. :uh:

oo nga, cguro itatayo nla ang Pagcor Tower if ever bago matapos and Diosdado Macapagap International Airport para Masarado na nila ang NAIA to be the next business District...hu hu hu

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

thats why i think theres a small chance of this getting built, and if it does get built it will be reduced down to less then 600m. btw they need a redesign this thing is ugly

nothing spectacular about the form

Here's a video showing a flythrough of Pagcor City.

VxUFomkd0n8

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^^ Wow

build them! :D

i want to see developments. :)

This is great! This will totally boost not just the Philippine Economy but also enhance the tourism charm of the country!

Go Philippines!

Go Pearl of the Orient!

Go Gateway to Asia!

Go Manila Bay Tourism City!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

VxUFomkd0n8

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dang the tower looks different again

Looks like a stretched version of the Pearl Tower in Shang Hai.

oh yeah. it totally does.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Shanghai_oriental_pearl_tower.JPG/400px-Shanghai_oriental_pearl_tower.JPG





:ohno: Cmon guys. Stop comparing it with existing structures. They're well aware of those towers and are trying not to copy it.

hahaha pero mas maganda pa yata ung Pagcor tower and i'm so happy na magkakaroon narin ng Stadium for all and Monorail too, kasi dehind na tayo ng kalapit nating bansa....

PAGCOR Headquarters
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8081/dsc00334md2.jpg

Pagcor tower version 3
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8196/dsc00336ro2.jpg

Pagcor Tower version 3 suspension bridge
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7531/dsc00337tc8.jpg

SM Concept
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2508/dsc00338qo2.jpg

SM Concept (Casino Royale)
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9990/dsc00339tn7.jpg



:cheers: :)

http://www.image-upload.net/files/8243/Image_441.jpg

^^
any updates?:nuts:

First pic: Instead of making two towers they should make one tall tower so Manila can have its first supertall :okay:

Third pic: A suspension bridge with observation towers as supports :eek: Thats never been done before right?

Fifth pic: Is that an arena or a casino? (I hope its an arena :))

First pic: Instead of making two towers they should make one tall tower so Manila can have its first supertall :okay:

Third pic: A suspension bridge with observation towers as supports :eek: Thats never been done before right?

Fifth pic: Is that an arena or a casino? (I hope its an arena :))

It's a casino, notice the "CASINO ROYALE" sign

^^
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Philipsarena.jpg

so this is an "ATLANTA"?

Sometimes a sign they stick on a building doesn't necessarily describe what the building is used for.

funny reply!

Habang wala pang mga scanned pics, magtiyaga muna tayo sa mga kuha ng cam. sensiya malabo, kinakabahan akong magpicture, nahuli na kasi ako dati na nagpipicture ng mga magazine



PAGCOR Headquarters





Pagcor tower version 3





Pagcor Tower version 3 suspension bridge





SM Concept





SM Concept (Casino Royale)





Andun din mga master plan ng iba pang mga investors like genting, aruze etc. next time kuha ako ng pics kapag wala pang nakakapagscan xD



Hinde kasi clear ung pagcor tower version 3 pero maganda sia kapag nakita nio sa magazine kasi may intricate weaving pattern yan na hinde halata sa pic


Yung BizNewsAsia, nag-cicirculate sa buong Asia?

Dapat pagandahin pa nila!

Yung mga bay projects sa Malaysia e mapapanganga ka.

Dapat all elements of luxury, exclusivity, grandiose, and everything grand should all mix up for this one of a kind project!

(They) should consult a foreign firm regarding on how to make this really eye-catching, breath-taking project the landmark for the Philippines!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

^^ :no:

Can I proposed, hehhehe joke lang hope it will result the best in Asia, goodluck pagcor...

I'm not too positive about this project. By the time this gets done, the design and everything else would look so 20 years ago. blame goes to the government.

Fail :ohno:

The site is under construction now according to Manila Times newspaper.


Pagcor to the rescue! Watch out Macau!
link: http://www.yehey.com/News/Article.aspx?id=218152

^indeed!!!

Considering the amount of $$$ involved I wonder how much improvement METRO will have to get i.e. roads, highways etc. for this project. :nuts:

^^the new tower design looks great.

can't see the pics with the new design, can anyone please repost them? :)

^^ watch the video for the new design. :D

^^ and where is the link for that ?

^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxUFomkd0n8

and i also can't see the video link...only a white box :(

vERY nICE! ZZ-II you must stop watching porn! you have 2 much spyware on your PC :)

VxUFomkd0n8
here's the link.

can see it :banana:

cool design, hopefully they won't lower the height :)

I hope they won't also. This would already make a statement in the ASEAN Region.

this will surely put not only Manila, but the Philippines on the map!

detailed 3rd render of the pagcor tower.:cheers:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2667701909_8365fe764b_b.jpg

and here's the other render you also scanned..
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2667733851_2541726c83_b.jpg

^^i like the second one better :)

^^me too;)

Pagcor's towers height
http://i33.tinypic.com/olhlw.jpg

^^nice job:) i could now imagine how tall it is

detailed 3rd render of the pagcor tower.:cheers:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2667701909_8365fe764b_b.jpg


this one is better than the other 2.......

the dish looks so much alike space needle of Seattle

http://www.oceanlight.com/lr/tran/13661.jpg

i dont think so..

neither do i..

me too.....

the dish looks so much alike space needle of Seattle

http://www.oceanlight.com/lr/tran/13661.jpg

i agree. that was my first reaction to it.

coolness...the observation deck is a good 50-100 meters above CN's Skypod

lets hope they start it soon then.

I hope they develop a revolving observation deck like the one in the CN Tower and Space Needle...both restaurants by the way...

yeah, I also thought it was similar to the Space Needle.
THat's why I liked the second design.

i'm getting excited to see this built soon...

hmm how long are we supposed to wait for the construction dates? :nuts:

http://i33.tinypic.com/23syec1.jpg

at night
http://i34.tinypic.com/2nssxvo.jpg


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http://i33.tinypic.com/23syec1.jpg

at night
http://i34.tinypic.com/2nssxvo.jpg

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nice rendering...

:horse:

JP

hmm how long are we supposed to wait for the construction dates? :nuts:

construction is set to start this year

any month in mind?

I guess the tower is inspired by bamboo which is part of our culture. the first time i saw the design my first reaction is just fine but when i saw the details i find it interesting.

http://i33.tinypic.com/20jsqoo.jpg
pagcor tower,our modern palo sebo.cool!

http://i36.tinypic.com/10d9w5u.jpg
it's alot different from taipei 101 and surely someone will say it just
a copy... NOT!

let's keep our fingers crossed for our economy...otherwise this would be RP's Ryugyong Hotel...

I guess the tower is inspired by bamboo which is part of our culture. the first time i saw the design my first reaction is just fine but when i saw the details i find it interesting.

http://i33.tinypic.com/20jsqoo.jpg
pagcor tower,our modern palo sebo.cool!

http://i36.tinypic.com/10d9w5u.jpg
it's alot different from taipei 101 and surely someone will say it just
a copy... NOT!

you are right there! i can definitely see the design's resemblance to bamboo! :cheers:

^^ yeah, light at night really define it is a bamboo.. :D

let's keep our fingers crossed for our economy...otherwise this would be RP's Ryugyong Hotel...

I'm very positive about this project. The funds are there, billiions of dollars!

I think the renderings are very Filipino in design.

i only wish they would give it a fancy name other than Pagcor Tower...

Manila Tower would sound better...but i'm sure they could come up with better names just like Stratosphere, Sky Needle...etc..

By the way I hope it will really be as green as on the renders, looks amazing...

manila eye.
http://i33.tinypic.com/a1r492.jpg

my rendering with some twist on manila's eye.hope it would look like this.
http://i36.tinypic.com/2ryswo7.jpg

Ihope that the underwater scenery would show how diverse our country is.
put coral's,diff. species of fish etc.
http://i34.tinypic.com/iqwivs.jpg
underwater

http://i34.tinypic.com/2el3tkj.jpg
aerial view

^^i'd prefer it if they wont name it the Manila Eye--that would be an obvious rip-off of the London Eye...

why not the Manila Horizon / Bay Horizon...based on its proposed design, it would actually dip into the sea like a water-mill...so the name would fit perfectly, since the horizon is the point where the Sea and Sky would appear to meet...

^^or if we want to be 'unique'...let's call it "Third Eye of Manila" :lol:

That is really cool! :D

wow, a wheel which goes even underwater....fantastic idea i think :)

whoaa i love the concept :banana: now lets just hope they further refine the final designs and start construction !

on another note why not just call it the "Pearl of the Orient" ;)

^^^ Becuase there's one already in Shanghai...

oh i always thought it was called oriental pearl tower but alright sounds fair. by the way i was referring to the ferris wheel :)

what about calling the wheel the The Bay Sunset or simply The Sunset

Manila Bay after all, is famed for its sunset...and the wheel dipping into the sea kind of resembles the sun setting into the bay...

^^ Yes, that's a good name.

The underwater thing would be totally awesome if they manage to build it!!

Is it just me or anyone else think we're going off topic slightly...

^^ I think so. :D haha

when will the diggings start? :)

I dig this tower for its height, not for its design.........and to be built on a reclaimed land? Whooa, let's hope they'll build this sucker deep into the bedrock..........

well i like the details of the design.
a view from manila bay.
http://i38.tinypic.com/4jupmx.jpg
hopefully pagcor city in the near future.
i know that the location is wrong.
let's just think it is.

^^wow...

well i like the details of the design.
a view from manila bay.
http://i38.tinypic.com/4jupmx.jpg
hopefully pagcor city in the near future.

Hmm.. Shouldnt it be a bit further down south? Nice pict tho. Can't wait to come back to the Philippines seeing that from the airplane window.

well i like the details of the design.
a view from manila bay.
http://i38.tinypic.com/4jupmx.jpg
hopefully pagcor city in the near future.

Stunning! :colgate:

the location
is incorrect
though

tee hee

well it looks like a statue of liberty bcoz of its color...ehehe cool though

well i like the details of the design.
a view from manila bay.
http://i38.tinypic.com/4jupmx.jpg
hopefully pagcor city in the near future.

wow. it would also be nice to see makati's skyline in a different view

so....
When does construction actually start?

i'm looking forward for this one.

so....
When does construction actually start?

you know we don't know. they're trying to get licences still.
and PAGCOR is trying to keep technical stuff a secret.

i think they've mentioned Q1 of 2009? but i'm not sure about that. :D

there isnt a diagram on skyscraperpage yet?

^^ Culwulla, SSP is not updated with the projects here in the Philippines that's why all Pinoy forumers are here instead :D

There are at least 50 projects which have been finished already and they're not even listed in SSP.

St. Francis Towers, 212m each, are not even listed. They've just been topped off!

you know we don't know. they're trying to get licences still.
and PAGCOR is trying to keep technical stuff a secret.

Ahh i see, hopefully the project gets through all the bureaucracy... By the way who is giving the licenses anyways? :)

^^ I'm gonna guess a turtle probably since I derno.

manila eye.
http://i33.tinypic.com/a1r492.jpg

my rendering with some twist on manila's eye.hope it would look like this.
http://i36.tinypic.com/2ryswo7.jpg

Ihope that the underwater scenery would show how diverse our country is.
put coral's,diff. species of fish etc.
http://i34.tinypic.com/iqwivs.jpg
underwater

http://i34.tinypic.com/2el3tkj.jpg
aerial view

is that a proposal or what?? is it pushing thru?? is it planned??

they should call it "manila sphere" jk

OT: manila sphere is ok for a name.

i like the second design. i just hope that they would retain the antenna like design at the top of the 1st render's. the first render is a bit control towerish.

well i like the details of the design.
a view from manila bay.
http://i38.tinypic.com/4jupmx.jpg
hopefully pagcor city in the near future.
i know that the location is wrong.
let's just think it is.

SUPERB! :applause::applause::applause::applause:

PAGCOR TOWER 2nd TALLEST BUILDING IN THE WORLD!
http://i33.tinypic.com/olhlw.jpg

Diffirent versions:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2667701909_8365fe764b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2667631915_09efe9bbfc_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2668462426_c4ba578615_b.jpg

Malaysian Genting Group to the Philippines14-04-2008


QUEZON CITY - Alliance Global Group (AGI) is finalising plans to enter into a joint venture with Star Cruises Limited, an affiliate of the Malaysian conglomerate, the Genting Group, to develop a US$1.0 billion integrated leisure resort as part of the multi-billion dollar Bangong Nayong Pilipino Manila Nay Integrated City Project in the Manila Bay reclamation area....

http://i36.tinypic.com/2w38fn9.jpg
with Manila eye

Stunning end very high! :nuts:


April 25, 2008

Company Name: ARUZE CORP.
Name of Representative: Kunihiko Yogo Representative Director and President
(JASDAQ Code: 6425)
Contact: Koki Seki
General Manager
IR & PR Office
TEL: +81-3-5530-3055 (switchboard)
Casino Project in the Philippines

As announced in its “Business Realignment and Future Business Development” press release issued December 20, 2007, ARUZE GROUP seeks to commence the operation of a casino resort in the Asian region, which shall be conducted independently by ARUZE CORP. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”).

The successful operation of a casino resort necessitates rich knowledge and experience regarding hotel construction and operation, know-how concerning the creation of attractive facilities and superior personnel fully acquainted with casino resort operation. A project team has been established by the Company for the purpose of securing the above. Out of the abovementioned elements, where essential management-based know-how is concerned, the Company intends to proceed with the project under the full guidance of Wynn Resorts, Limited’s Steve Wynn.
The concept proposed by the Company for the “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City” project, which is currently being planned for the area of reclaimed land in the Philippine capital of Manila, has been highly received by the Philippine government. Based on this positive reception, the Company has initiated preparations towards materializing this business in the below manner, and has commenced arrangements for the site to be used.

Outline of Casino Project
(1) Site to Be Acquired
Plot of land adjacent to “Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Tourism City”
(2) Planned Area
40 hectares (400,000 square meters)
(3) Primary Facilities
Casino hotel, aquarium, art museum, sports facilities, Ferris wheel, commercial facilities, etc.

(4) Business Scale
Estimated total of approx. 250 billion JPY
Site and provisional license acquisition:
Between end of May 2008 and end of July 2008
Commencement of construction:
Around Jan. 2009

(5) Future Timetable*
Opening of casino and other facilities:
Around Apr. 2010

*The acquisition of a provisional license is currently in the stages of deliberation. The above timetable is that foreseen by the Company at the current stage, and is subject to change in the future.
Further details will be provided in full once the site has been secured and acquisition of the license has been confirmed.

U think this would have the highest OB deck in the world. I see 500m. :cheers:

^^ really? awful? in daylight it can be but at night its amazing in my opinion.

To be honest, i don't really like this awful design. :ohno:

I also think its pretty terrible. They need to come up with a better design for the whole complex, its already looking pretty dated.

pictures????? please

Pagcor to the rescue! Watch out Macau!

By Likha Cuevas-Miel, Reporter

MOVE over Macau and Singapore, the newest Asian entertainment hub is rising in Manila.

Seeing that the country sorely lacks a recognizable tourism marketing point—like Singapore’s Sentosa or Hong Kong’s Disneyland—the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor), led by its Chairman and Chief Executive Efraim C. Genuino, hatched a plan to convert a reclaimed area of Manila Bay into a bustling world-class entertainment center.

Called the Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Entertainment City Manila, the 108-hectare project is envisioned to be a fully integrated resort complex to be built in various phases over the next 10 years. According to Pagcor, this will allow the state-run firm to shift from “mere casino gaming into wholesome, family-oriented recreation and entertainment business.”

The project has been noticed internationally because it pits the Philippines against Macau as a gambling center and against Singapore as an entertainment, cultural and convention destination.

Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Entertainment City Manila can offer more than just gambling (Macau) or just theme parks (Sentosa, Singapore). For our capital is the gateway to the other tourist attractions in the country like miles of pristine white beaches with crystal blue waters, which Macau and Singapore don’t have.

Entertainment City would serve as a jump-off point to other tourist haunts in the Philippines or it may stand alone as the focal point of a visitor’s stay.

According to Pagcor’s blueprint, the entertainment complex along Manila Bay will be divided into specialized areas featuring six-star hotels, world-class theme parks, educational and cultural complexes. It will also have shopping malls, a commercial district, sports stadiums, celebrity-themed restaurants, convention halls, state-of-the-art theaters, gaming facilities, residential villages, and a hospital district.

However, the religious sector has opposed the project. Churchmen see it as a massive scheme to promote gambling and corrupt the population.

Genuino defended the project. He said Entertainment City is not a gambling paradise for the casino is just small part of the whole package.

“In a big hotel with 2,000 to 3,000 rooms, the casino component is very small. With the 40 hectares, you will not build a casino in more than one hectare. For every 40-hectare of development, only less than 5 percent is casino. The good thing here is we were able to secure the [commitment of the] biggest theme park [operator] in the world,” the Pagcor chairman told the press.

Attracting big-name investors

Pagcor managed to amass huge investment commitments—at least $8 billion—from some of the region’s biggest leisure and resort players. Genuino confirmed that biggest investors would be the Genting group of Malaysia and the Japanese Aruze group, the partner of US casino mogul Steve Wynn. Each investor pledged to spend at least $3 billion to help build Entertainment City.

Both groups also expressed their intention to start building this year and open their respective facilities to the public two years from now, Genuino said.

The Genting group tied up with local conglomerate Alliance Global Group Inc. (AGI), a publicly listed firm owned by Andrew Tan, for the project. The partnership is forged between Genting’s Star Cruises Ltd.—the world’s third largest cruise operator—and AGI’s subsidiary, Travelers International Hotel Group Inc.

Kingson U. Sian, AGI president and chief operating officer, said that the terms of the partnership with Star Cruises are still being threshed out but he is positive that the capital injection of both companies would go beyond the minimum requirement of US$1 billion by the government. AGI recently secured a provisional license from Pagcor, the first among the four groups to get it.

Based on proposals submitted to the gaming regulator, the Malaysian group is planning to put up a theme park over a 35-hectare area it would lease from the government. Genting is the franchise holder of Universal Studios theme parks in Asia, one of which is under construction in Singapore. It also poured about six billion Singapore dollars into an integrated resort on Sentosa Island.

The Japanese group, on the other hand, proposes to build the country’s biggest Ferris’ wheel dubbed as the “Manila Eye” that is similar to that of London.

Aruze also plans to build a sports arena, a theater, a museum that would host displays of religious icons, and a 2,500-room hotel and casino. It also plans to trump the existing Manila Ocean Park by building the country’s biggest oceanarium within its leased domain.

Kazuo Okada, Aruze group chairman, told reporters in a recent gaming expo in Manila that the concept is still up for approval by the government with various licenses and zoning permits yet to be secured. A Pagcor source who refused to be named told The Manila Times that rumors of Aruze’s lack of commitment to the project were not true. “It’s just that they are waiting for a few details to be ironed out. Besides AGI-Genting, Aruze is the most serious group in plunking down money for the project,” the source said.

Bloombury Investments Ltd., a British Virgin Islands firm, also plans to lease 15 hectares and inject at least $1 billion for a project that would include three luxury hotels with a total capacity of 1,500 rooms. The plan also includes a high-end retail shopping, celebrity-themed dining, a showroom and museum, and a major entertainment and sports center. Pagcor said in a statement that these plans are based on initial talks only and are yet to be finalized.

However, Bloombury still has to get its act together before it can push on with its application for a license with Pagcor. The Australian reported that entertainment and gaming firm Crown Ltd. denied that its chairman, James Packer, was in “advanced talks” with the British Virgin Islands company for a possible investment in the Entertainment City. Packer, who also heads Publishing and Broadcasting Ltd. (PBL), is Australia’s third richest man.

The third investor is the SM Investments Corp. (SMIC), one of the country’s biggest conglomerates that made its fortune in malls, retailing and real estate. Tessie Sy-Coson, SMIC vice chairperson, said the SM group’s commitment to the Pagcor initiative involves its own investments within the Mall of Asia (MOA) Complex that it owns. SMIC recently engaged hotel services provider Carlson Hotels Worldwide-Asia Pacific to manage Regent and Radisson branded hotels within the complex.

She said a casino may be in the works but nothing is definite yet. Another publicly listed firm, Belle Corp., may get into the picture and join the SM group in the casino part of its plans. However, Willy N. Ocier, Belle Corp. vice chairman, said things are still sketchy and everything is still under review.

The Pagcor source told The Times that a racing circuit is also in the works to bring the Formula 1 Grand Prix in the Philippines. The F1, which is the most popular and well-financed motor racing sport in the world, already has Grand Prix circuits in Malaysia and Singapore.

A huge boost to Philippine tourism

Over the next five years, the Pagcor project would host at least 7,000 hotel rooms and generate at least 250,000 jobs for Filipinos, most of whom will be employed as construction workers, hotel staff members and entertainers. The Entertainment City is also expected to remit at least 25 percent of its total revenues—in the form of leases and franchise and income taxes—generated within the complex to the government treasury.

Before the Entertainment City can be a “distinctive tourist destination” that the government hopes it would be, there are several things that should be done first. One of these should be the improvement in the marketing of the Philippines as a premiere destination.

Observers polled by The Times say that the government’s marketing efforts pale in comparison with Malaysia’s branding of “Malaysia, Truly Asia” or with the tourism campaign of the tiny city-state of Singapore.

Last year, the Philippines only managed to attract 3.08 million foreign visitors, an anemic number compared with the 25 million tourists that visited the small Chinese territory of Hong Kong. With the Entertainment City in the horizon, the government hopes to catch a fraction of the projected 100 million Chinese tourists that will be traveling abroad by 2010 and the continuous flow of Asian travelers like Koreans and Japanese.

Before that, the government must prepare for the influx of tourists by building more roads and airports to accommodate them. An efficient transport system, comparable with that of other Asian countries, must be put in place to make Manila tourist-friendly.

UNIVERSAL STUDIOS THEME PARK SOON TO RISE IN RP

The arrival of a Universal Studios theme park in the Philippines is creating a huge buzz after the Genting Berhad Group secured the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp.(Pagcor)’s nod for its proposed project within the Las Vegas-like Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated Tourism City.

Pagcor chairman and chief executive officer Efraim Genuino said the Genting Group has committed to develop 35 hectares of the 90-hectare prime reclaimed land facing Manila Bay into a world-class tourist destination.

Genuino said the Genting Berhad Group is planning to invest $3 billion in the Manila Bay Integrated City, the Philippines’ biggest tourism development project.

The Genting Berhad Group owns the Genting Highlands Resort in Malaysia and holds the exclusive development rights of film giant Universal Studios in Asia. It has teamed up with its subsidiary Star Cruises and Alliance Global Inc., the listed investment holding firm of retail tycoon Andrew Tan, for its proposed project in the $15-20 billion casino resort complex along Manila Bay.

Genuino said the Genting Berhard Group’s proposal includes the development of leisure and entertainment facilities including a theme park, state-of-the-art theaters, amusement and cultural centers, retail and gaming center and hotels.

Universal Studio’s movie-theme Hollywood park has 13 attractions based on movies including Shrek, Jurassic Park and The Terminator. Excluding its restaurants and theaters, the theme park alone draws about four million visitors a year.

Besides Hollywood, Universal Studios has other parks in Orlando, Barcelona and Osaka, Japan.

Another investor group, Aruze Corp. of Japan is planning to put up an integrated resort featuring a hotel with 2,000 standard rooms and 300 VIP suites; a major oceanarium targeted to be the world’s largest; theaters, a sports arena, a Holy museum and a giant ferris wheel similar to the London Eye to be known as the Manila Eye.

The Aruze Group is likewise infusing $3 billion in capital for the development of 40 hectares of land in the Manila Bay Integrated City.

Genuino said Aruze, a leading gaming machine maker known for its ties with the popular Wynn Resorts in Las Vegas and Macau, may start development of its project in the second quarter this year which may take two years to complete.

Other groups whose project concepts have been approved by Pagcor include Bloomburry Investments Ltd. of Australia which will develop 15 hectares of the reclaimed prime land, and the SM Investments Corp. (SMIC).

Bloomburry plans to build a hotel, sports arena and other tourist attractions.

Genuino said SMIC has yet to hatch a plan for the Manila Bay Integrated City but said this would be a unique concept.

Tessie Sy, SMIC vice-chair, said that aside from developments within the Mall of Asia complex along Roxas Boulevard, the company may work on something in the future to further promote the tourism estate.

SMIC, together with international hotel firms Carlson Hotels Asia Pacific and Accor will develop and manage a 350-room hotel in SM Bay City, which will be located near the SMX Convention Center.

Meantime, two administration congressmen supported yesterday the Integrated Tourism City, saying the nation should rake in billions in potential income from the project instead of growing grass on reclaimed land.

“We also need jobs. We have 430,000 new college graduates a year, but not all can be absorbed by existing companies,” Palawan Rep. Antonio Alvarez, House trade and industry committee chairman, said in the midst of reports that Catholic bishops are opposing the plan.

Manila Rep. Amado Bagatsing said he would prefer “that we grow money instead of grass on reclaimed land in Manila Bay.”

Alvarez said the Pagcor project would put the country in a position to catch a portion of China’s increasing spending on gambling.

“Due to China’s growing affluence, its 1.3 billion people are spending $70 billion in gambling bets a year, according to one estimate,” he said.

He said the gambling revenues of Macau, a Chinese territory, increased by 47 percent to $10.34 billion last year and have exceeded those of Las Vegas.

He said the Pagcor project could also prevent rich Filipinos from going to Macau or Las Vegas and would allow them to “just spend their money here.”

^^^^

hope the monorail will look like this...

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/seattle-etc-monorail.jpg

Any pics of updates of the site please :ohno:.

^^ the site is still vacated. :ohno: and the project is just approves not yet prep. so we have to wait for it. :D

Is that lower deck/section not centered or was the a modeling error? Looks very odd.

Overall i like the design though, it's nice to have an observation deck that high.

^^ the site is still vacated. :ohno: and the project is just approves not yet prep. so we have to wait for it. :D

OK, thanks :)

I'm not sure what people are calling awful. The green one?
It's a bamboo which represents the Asian heritage of Philippines.
Can't be as awful as the other towers in the world like KL's.

Its pretty bad... bland and outdated... you can see smaller versions of this tower in many cities... cost seems quite high for this tower too...

^^ How much do you think it is? :)

I'm not sure what people are calling awful. The green one?
It's a bamboo which represents the Asian heritage of Philippines.
Can't be as awful as the other towers in the world like KL's.

I completely agree with this diz. :D
Yeah its represents the Philippines. :banana:
And this is far more better than the canceled tower in indonesia. :ohno:

The problem is that it resembles other towers. See because of that most of the foreigners posting threads here don't really think its anything special. So did my ex-boss who's an AIA architect. I'm really hoping for a redesign. For a tower of this a height only a truly unique and iconic design would suffice. Otherwise its only something good for the statistics books.

i actually like it. it will be very iconic at night. just a little bit twitching so it would not look control towerish. this is better than the KL tower which was designed a by filipino.

^^really?...what was the architects name?

yeah... please tell the name? :|

New Pics of PagCor Project....Net find

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/e6bbc5866144ca648c404f44c896e413-gr.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/cabal_k_02.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/PAGCOR-GRAND-WATERFRONT-CASINO2.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/PAGCOR-TOWER.jpg

:nuts::nuts::nuts:

The Future is Here!!!...:lol:

Whoas. Same tower in two pics. I guess they might use that design.

i love the pagcor HQ

I think the pagcor tower really looks amazing. Very elegant. The color of the tower (green) really simbolizes PAGCOR and phil architecture.

The hotel casinos are heating up....go PAGCOR.

New Pics of PagCor Project....Net find

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/e6bbc5866144ca648c404f44c896e413-gr.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/cabal_k_02.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/PAGCOR-GRAND-WATERFRONT-CASINO2.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/PAGCOR-TOWER.jpg

:nuts::nuts::nuts:

LOVE IT!!!

The hotel casinos are heating up....go PAGCOR.

Yeah...It's really Symbolize the Bamboo Tree...i think 4 or 5 months to go for this project...am i right?

^^ bamboo is not a tree :sleepy: it's grass. :cheers:

[CENTER]New Pics of PagCor Project....Net find
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/cabal_k_02.jpg


That looks like those retro future drawings, like such as:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/jetsons.jpg

Also, that Grand waterfront hotel and casino looks fugly.

unbelievable, they cannot feed their people and now they are building a tower worth billions

unbelievable, they cannot feed their people and now they are building a tower worth billions

What? :ohno: :bash:

Anyway, i think its the official; design now. :)
and the HQ looks even better! :okay:

They really have started the construction? This is great news... Anyone knows the actual start of the construction of PAGCOR Tower?

^^ I think 2nd Quarter 2009

unbelievable, they cannot feed their people and now they are building a tower worth billions

i bet you watch too much oprah.

That looks like those retro future drawings, like such as:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/renders/jetsons.jpg

Also, that Grand waterfront hotel and casino looks fugly.

i bet you found rosy the robot maid hot

unbelievable, they cannot feed their people and now they are building a tower worth billions

PAGCOR isn't in charge of feeding the people. =]

^^ I think 2nd Quarter 2009

Was this reported somewhere or just speculation?

unbelievable, they cannot feed their people and now they are building a tower worth billions

If the whole place becomes successful, the money can be used to employ thousands which would, ahem, feed people, I believe. :nuts: There's a poor community near where the Pagcor Tower and Casino would be built. They could find themselves employed, paid well, and finally move out of the shantytown they live in.

unbelievable, they cannot feed their people and now they are building a tower worth billions

Insecure. You just cannot accept that the Philippines is growing. From your statement, it is very clear that it shows your ignorance. Research what is PAGCOR. the casinos in the Philippines (14 casinos and growing), the 3.5M tourists mostly from East Asia who come to our country for entertainment including playing at casinos. PAGCOR is not in charge of feeding the people. Okay?

But the Casino will also ruin alot of lives.

^ The gamblers. :lol:

But the Casino will also ruin alot of lives.

Last time I checked, the casinos of Macao and Las Vegas didn't ruin a lot of lives. How are you sure this one casino will ruin lives? What casino built in the past has ruined a lot of lives?

Last time I checked, the casinos of Macao and Las Vegas didn't ruin a lot of lives. How are you sure this one casino will ruin lives? What casino built in the past has ruined a lot of lives?

Gambling is a highly debatable issue but this is not the forum to discuss it. There is already a thread in Philippine forum, so you can express your opinion or argue with the pros and cons of gambling. Thanks.

i'm so happy for this project as they run a billions of Dollars and the salary will be a USD $$$ too...that will be a big deal and good for our economy...i still appreciate the Government of Singapore and People's there...because they are supporting what the Singa. Gov. Project and they do start it ASAP when they have done to in dealing it..

I love to see the Future of Marina Bay of Singapore and Manila Bay of The Philippines by the end of 2010 or 2011...:cheer::cheers1::cheer:

^^ Future seems bright for both bays.

Last time I checked, the casinos of Macao and Las Vegas didn't ruin a lot of lives. How are you sure this one casino will ruin lives? What casino built in the past has ruined a lot of lives?

What casino hasn't.

^^what is your problem? i think you're in the wrong forum.

What casino hasn't.

The burden of proof is on you.

Is it already u/c or still planning only?

The burden of proof is on you.
:lol:

Don't be ridiculous. The risk of addiction to gambling is as well documented as that of alcohol and drugs. That's like saying "the burden of proof is on you" to someone who says that smoking is unhealthy. Have you been living on Mars until recently or what?

There is no burden of proof for something everybody already knows.

Is it already u/c or still planning only?

They have started clearing and diggings the area. It is quiet big and several casino hotels will be built there. We don't know which comes first, the tower or casino hotels.

^^ Yep. As I said, PAGCOR doesn't wanna reveal anything! Dang so annoying, I wish they would. :lol:

:lol:

Don't be ridiculous. The risk of addiction to gambling is as well documented as that of alcohol and drugs. That's like saying "the burden of proof is on you" to someone who says that smoking is unhealthy. Have you been living on Mars until recently or what?

There is no burden of proof for something everybody already knows.

No argument to your statement. If you wish, you can participate in Philippine forum on gambling/casinos thread.

GAmbling in our country existed since the time of Spanish colonial period, okay? for 333 years!

^^ It's ok, chill. There is always opposition in projects like this.

I'm not opposing this project at all, just setting the people straight who think there is no inherent addiction-risk to gambling.

^^ It's ok, chill. There is always opposition in projects like this.

:) chill... that is true....personally, I'm not in favor of gambling but I love the project, the Pagcor tower, casino hotels. How could you reconcile it, hehehehe.

They have started clearing and diggings the area. It is quiet big and several casino hotels will be built there. We don't know which comes first, the tower or casino hotels.

Nice project... It's 655m, wow, tallest building in SE Asia! At least until there are no other projects gonna build in ASEAN region, hehehe... There are always new projects proposed in our region :lol:

Nice project... It's 655m, wow, tallest building in SE Asia! At least until there are no other projects gonna build in ASEAN region, hehehe... There are always new projects proposed in our region :lol:

hehehe right, Pagcor Tower will be the Tallest Structure not even in SE Asia and it will be the Tallest Tower in the World...any way K14N, any thing news about the Jakarta tower?...

Another News ...

Cooperation for Metro Manila Monorail Project

http://www.geocities.com/greg_vassilakos/honolulu/hitachi.jpg

A consortium of private developers has solicited our assistance in identifying suitable partners and key project and design personnel for an exciting and ambitious development project still in its earliest, exploratory phase. Its objective: to improve transportation in the Manila, Philippines metropolitan area through the construction of a monorail system linking key locations, likely to be built under a B.O.T. arrangement.

that's very out of topic guys. :sleepy:

yeah stick to subject! or ill use my deletion tab.

I guess you have King Kong size tab.:lol::lol:

Another News ...

Cooperation for Metro Manila Monorail Project

http://www.geocities.com/greg_vassilakos/honolulu/hitachi.jpg

A consortium of private developers has solicited our assistance in identifying suitable partners and key project and design personnel for an exciting and ambitious development project still in its earliest, exploratory phase. Its objective: to improve transportation in the Manila, Philippines metropolitan area through the construction of a monorail system linking key locations, likely to be built under a B.O.T. arrangement.

This isnt OT... it says a monorail that will link key locations in the Metro which would include a stop at or near PAGCOR Tower.

^^ That's a totally different project. This thread shouldn't even show the entire Entertainment City complex. Just the Pagcor Tower.

^^but i mean its not completely off topic...it may be a completely different project but it will be something that will be servicing the tower.

yes it's not OT. it shows the bigger picture. it's helpful to people like me who seek context

Any updates, guys?

^^ There sure is.

Pagcor’s $25-B tourism city to rise in Parañaque
By Michael Punongbayan
Friday, September 26, 2008


The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) may now begin construction of the biggest tourism and entertainment city in the country after securing a permit from Parañaque, which is expected to rake in P1 billion yearly in tax revenue from the $25-billion project.

The facility, which is also expected to generate jobs for more than 100,000 residents, will rise on a 150-hectare property on Roxas Boulevard and Coastal Road. The area has been declared a special investment district.

Councilor Jose Enrico Golez and 14 other local legislators have declared the former reclamation area a tourism economic zone through Resolution No. 08-059.

Mayor Florencio Bernabe Jr. said the city government approved the project last week. Pagcor’s partner in the project is the Philippine Economic Zone Authority or PEZA.

He said the proposed tourism and entertainment city will not only generate income for the city but will also provide livelihood for its citizens.

Bernabe said a local ordinance stipulates that Parañaque residents should comprise at least 40 percent of the workforce of new establishments.

“Since this project will employ around 250,000 workers, it will mean at least 100,000 jobs for us here,” he told The STAR.

Bernabe said a Memorandum of Agreement between the city government of Parañaque and Pagcor, through Chairman Efraim Genuino, will be signed to specify and establish the roles and responsibilities of both and the PEZA.

Councilors who agreed to the grand idea of building a tourism and entertainment city in Parañaque said the project “will develop the full tourism potential” of the locality.

According to the resolution passed, the project will make use of 35 lots in a reclamation area along Manila Bay where luxury hotels with casinos, restaurants, malls, convention centers, theaters, cultural centers, museums, amusement parks, residential villages, and even an observation tower will rise.

Councilors noted that the Pagcor charter gives it the right to operate and maintain gambling, casinos, clubs, and other recreation or amusement places, sports, gaming pools, lotteries and the like whether on land or sea within the territorial jurisdiction of the Philippines.

However, they said Republic Act 9487, which amends the same, provides that the operation of slot machines and other gambling paraphernalia and equipment shall not be allowed in establishments that are open and accessible to the public unless located within three-star hotels and resorts.

They added that such establishments should also be accredited by the Department of Tourism (DOT) and authorized by the local government unit concerned.

Bernabe said “investors can now come in” and begin constructing the country’s tourism and entertainment city now that the Sangguniang Panlungsod has given Pagcor and PEZA the green light.

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080925163

^^ What a precise report! The project is within the timetable.... :)

^^ Galing! SOSYAL nanaman ang Pilipinas! :applause: :applause:

amazing tower

Nice, Im actually looking forward to the tower and the whole complex itself. Hopefully the current design of the tower itself doesn't change I really like the "bamboo" style it has. :cheers:

Just this hour: Singapore-based Channel News Asia report says the Philippines is the HOTTEST REAL ESTATE MARKET in SOUTHEAST ASIA!

:banana::cheers::banana::cheers:

^^You really don't have to post it on all the threads on SSC.

^^ But it's worth a celebration! So let's just be happy! :)

:dance:

^^I know. However, it's frustrating to open each thread only to find out the same message is posted. I'm sure there's an appropriate thread for that particular news.
Thanks.

^^
that is your problem. and don't tell me what to do, especially if the significance of what i posted eludes you, and you can't even specify to which "appropriate thread" that news belongs.

^^You don't have to be rude. I was merely making a suggestion. If you don't want to consider my suggestion, just ignore it, as simple as that. Okay, you go ahead and keep posting that news. You have about a thousand threads more to go. Keep it up! :)

^^
that is your problem. and don't tell me what to do, especially if the significance of what i posted eludes you, and you can't even specify to which "appropriate thread" that news belongs.

but he's right:bash:

^^
that is your problem. and don't tell me what to do, especially if the significance of what i posted eludes you, and you can't even specify to which "appropriate thread" that news belongs.

But he is right. What you are doing is just spamming all the threads. One or two posts in the appropriate threads is sufficient.

Stay on topic guys!

and @barukdok: stop posting that message in the threads!

New Pics of PagCor Project....Net find

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/e6bbc5866144ca648c404f44c896e413-gr.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/cabal_k_02.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/PAGCOR-GRAND-WATERFRONT-CASINO2.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/bermudez_08/PAGCOR-TOWER.jpg[/center]

:nuts::nuts::nuts:

The Future is Here!!!...:lol:

Just wanna quote it again so visitors can take a peek at the unofficial rendering or conceptualization of what the PAGCOR Tower may look like if it was built now.

NOTE: THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL RENDER! THESE ARE JUST MERE CONCEPTS OF WHAT THE PAGCOR CITY MAY LOOK LIKE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

But he is right. What you are doing is just spamming all the threads. One or two posts in the appropriate threads is sufficient.

before you even comment make sure you understand what you're saying.

here's the definition of spamming according to wikipedia...

"Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages. While the most widely recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam, Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, Online classified ads spam, mobile phone messaging spam, Internet forum spam and junk fax transmissions."

so tell me, is what i did spamming? as far as i know, the news i posted is appropriate because it concerns PHILIPPINE REAL ESTATE. Not everyone visits the "appropriate" threads, whatever and wherever these are.

i am certain i am within my rights within the bounds of generally accepted propriety when i posted that news in as many threads as possible, so i can inform the greatest number of Filipinos or interested forumers in this thread about this wonderful news, a painstaking process in fact. and mind you, it is not a force of habit or at whim that i post random news.

so before anyone here wishes to lecture me, make sure you can lecture back.

Stay on topic guys!

and @barukdok: stop posting that message in the threads!

i stopped days ago, for your information.

the pagcor hq looks great but sadly i'm not a fan of the tower's design.

The idea of doing a design contest for it may suit your palette. :)

i think the shape of the tower is too common or used..but the design looks great. I hope that they would think of something more unique, out-of-this-world, iconic, and nationalistic. ok?..:|

NO WORRIES

Gaming novice Andrew Tan is rolling the dice on two new casino resorts in the Philippines at a risky time.

http://images.forbes.com/media/magazines/global/2008/1027/global_1027_p046_f1.jpg

Source: Forbes Asia Magazine, October 2008 by Suzanne Nam 10.09.08, 5:00 PM

Andrew Tan is a novice at the betting tables. The first time the soft-spoken tycoon ever touched a playing card was in June, when he visited Macau to research casinos. But that hasn't stopped him from making a big bet on gambling in the Philippines, which until now has been controlled by the nation's government.

In April, Tan announced plans to partner with Star Cruises, a unit of Genting, the Malaysian gaming company founded by late billionaire Lim Goh Tong. Together they are investing $1.55 billion to build two megaresorts and casinos, one across from the new terminal at Manila City Airport and one in the city's historic Bay Area. Tan, who ranks No. 4 on FORBES ASIA's list of the Philippines' 40 Richest, is to spend $1 billion more on office buildings and condominiums surrounding the casinos. "If it was just casinos, I wouldn't be interested," he says.

The audacious goal: transform Manila into the Monte Carlo of Asia. "We can do it better than Macau and Singapore," says Tan in a rare interview from his downtown Manila office. "[Those cities] have gambling, but what else do they have? In the Philippines, we'll have world-class casinos, but we also have a beautiful natural landscape and some of the best beaches in the world."

There are significant hurdles. The Philippines, despite its thousands of islands, friendly people and fluency in English, only attracted 3 million tourists last year, compared to Macau's 9 million and Singapore's 7 million. Coups, a reputation for corruption and unreliable infrastructure, including its dreary airport in Manila, haven't helped matters.

The timing is bad. Casino resorts need lots of capital as well as gamblers big and small with money in their pockets, and all of this is in shorter supply in the economic contraction. Nearly all casino stocks have tumbled. Australian billionaire James Packer's Crown Limited decided not to pursue its investment in a proposed Philippines casino. "The recent and ongoing events in world credit markets have made it very difficult for gaming operators to develop commercially viable casino-entertainment projects where those projects require significant external debt funding," stated Crown's chief executive, Rowen Craigie, in July.

Tan's holding company, Alliance Global (AGI), which posted sales and net profits of $593 million and $71 million last year, has lost half its market value in 12 months. It is down more than 40% since the start of September. Tan's net worth has slipped in the past year from $1.1 billion to $700 million. The drop would have been more dramatic had he not sold $200 million of his personal shares as part of a secondary offering by AGI last June.

Tan, 57, isn't worried. He believes the Philippines is in a good financial position and its banks still have the capacity to lend as their loan-to-deposit ratio of 73% is considered low compared to regional neighbors. At least initially there is limited financial risk. In the deal, AGI put up land it already owned and a license it had obtained at no cost, though it had to make certain promises to government regulators. Tan doesn't expect to borrow a dime to fund the first casino resort, estimated to cost $450 million, but will need to tap the teetering credit markets to help fund the second one.

He has survived worse. The 1997 Asian financial crisis almost destroyed his reputation and real estate development firm, Megaworld. A trip to Thailand over the Easter weekend that year sparked rumors that Tan had fled the country due to his company's inability to meet debt obligations. He apparently had to hold a press conference when he returned to denounce the rumors. By January of 1998 his stock was off 95% from its previous year high. A year later the company was almost entirely debt free. Since then he has kept a tighter rein on the balance sheets of his companies and, as a result, AGI has $540 million in cash and Megaworld $211 million. Both companies have announced stock buybacks.

Tan doesn't back down or give up easily. "He is not afraid to compete," says AGI Chief Executive Officer Kingson Sian. "He is an action man. Once he is committed, he focuses on it until it is executed. Remember he came from nothing and went up against much larger companies in several industries."
The son of a Chinese factory worker, Tan moved to the Philippines and put himself through college in part by working as a salesman in a watch store. He often walked to Manila's University of the East because he couldn't afford the bus fare and ate a lot of fried bananas from street vendors. He likes to joke that while other guys were chasing girls, he was chasing the guys for a ride home.

Eager to put those penny-pinching days behind him, Tan started selling kitchen appliances such as coffeemakers and blenders. After eight years he had saved $250,000, which he invested in a distillery. First he tried making gin, then rum. In each case, he competed unsuccessfully against a liquor giant that had been in business for decades. He didn't give up and in 1990 started making a homegrown brandy that he could sell at much cheaper prices than imported brandy. He positioned it as the drink of responsible, successful people; ads mostly featured men in suits. Today Emperador has 63% of the Philippine market, and brandy, once a niche drink, accounts for 40% of all spirits sold in the country.

Using some of his liquor profits, Tan moved into glass-container manufacturing and real estate, another industry dominated by much larger players. He made an even bigger name and fortune for himself in property, by catering to middle-class home buyers and foreign companies. One of his best-known developments is Megaworld's Eastwood City, built just as the outsourcing boom hit the Philippines in the late 1990s. It is now home to 80 multinationals such as Dell, Citibank and IBM. In addition to renting office space for call centers, Megaworld sells residential condos to their employees and, like many mall owners in Asia, shares in the revenues brought in by dozens of restaurants and shops on the premises.

Last year, in an effort to streamline his various interests, which by then included a food business and a 49% stake in the Philippines McDonald's franchise, Tan reorganized them all under AGI, which was already publicly listed. In a secondary offering that temporarily led the Philippines Stock Exchange to suspend the stock's trading while it learned more details of the transaction, Tan sold his brandy business to AGI for $42 million and swapped most of his shares in Megaworld for AGI shares.

The gaming opportunity came about suddenly. Last year, before the stock market started falling, the government-run gaming regulator, Philippine Amusement & Gaming Corp., known as Pagcor, decided to try to grab more of the gaming money sloshing around Asia and invited investors to apply for casino licenses. It already operates 13 casinos as well as VIP rooms and slot-machine arcades. Pagcor brought in $580 million in revenues in 2007, up 18% a year over the past five years.

Tan was intrigued, betting that outsourcing and gaming tourism weren't all that different. Both industries have a cascade effect on the economies of surrounding communities. Both rely on foreign money, adding much-needed cash to a country's economy. He and his company had already built Pagcor's Hyatt Hotel & Casino in Manila and were developing a second one on a portion of 61 acres of land he owned across from the new Terminal 3 at Manila's airport. He had bought the land in 2005 when it wasn't clear if the corruption-riddled terminal would ever open.

Tan applied for a license and eventually negotiated with Pagcor to let him run the casino he was building for it. The government agency is to get a share of the gaming and tax revenues.

In the meantime Star Cruises executives visited potential gaming sites in Manila but decided they needed a Philippine partner and approached Tan. It was a good opportunity for him, in that the company had the gaming expertise he lacked. Its cruise ships have gaming. Its parent, Genting, runs Malaysia's highly successful Genting Highlands Resort and is opening a casino on Singapore's Sentosa Island in 2010. Another reason: the potential to market to Star Cruises' 2 million passengers, the equivalent of two-thirds of current Philippine tourist traffic.

A deal was finalized in August. AGI put 19 acres of land across from the airport and the gaming license, which it had secured two months earlier, into a subsidiary and sold half of that company to Star Cruises for $335 million. Together they are developing the area, called Newport City, into a casino, three hotels, an entertainment complex and 15,000 square feet of retail space. Tan's Megaworld, which owns another 42 acres, is building 4,000 condominiums and ten office buildings around it. The $1 billion cost for Megaworld's portion is to be funded through preselling (70% of condos have been presold) and cash flow.

Construction is continuing around the clock to ensure the venture is first on the draw. The partners expect to open Resort World Casino (the same brand name as Genting is using in Singapore) in 2009. So far only one other player has thrown in its chips, despite the fact that the country has said it will not limit the number of licenses it issues. It is a stark contrast to the frenzied competition back in 2002 for Macau's licenses.

Japan's Aruze, maker of pachinko and slot machines and 22% owner of U.S. gaming giant Wynn Resorts, was awarded a license in August. It plans to invest up to $2.5 billion in a resort casino to open in 2010.

The odds against these kinds of massive projects being funded and actually paying off seem to grow longer each day as world markets swoon. Still, the 2009 opening of Resort World across from the airport is pretty close to a sure thing, already funded and well on its way. What happens next is dicier. Tan and Star have committed, as part of their agreement with Pagcor, to spend $1.1 billion, partly funded by debt, on another gaming resort in historic Manila Bay. The plans are still being drawn up, but it is to have a theme park, museums, stores and hotels in addition to casinos. In that deal, Star is to have a 70% stake, AGI 30%.

One risky aspect of this venture is the expectation that it will be a big draw for foreign tourists, particularly from mainland China. "China is limiting access to Macau for [Chinese] citizens, and Singapore is too expensive and feels too restrictive," says Aruze Executive Officer Mikio Tanji. Chinese tourists are the fastest-growing segment of Philippine visitors but only 157,600 of them visited the country last year, hardly enough to make a dent in tourism spending. The other two key markets, Korea and Japan, accounted for one-third of the Philippines' tourists.

China did recently crack down on its citizens' visits to Macau, dictating that people had to wait three months between trips. China's loss could be the Philippines gain. But Macau is practically a household name. Sentosa, Singapore's gambling center, has done a good job marketing and publicizing its 2010 opening. Most people think of Manila as a beaten-down, messed-up place with terrible food and awful traffic. There are also fears that people will cut down on travel and leisure spending as economic growth slows. Not to mention political risks: A new administration, to be elected in 2010, may not be as friendly to gaming as that of current President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

So AGI and Star have a daunting sales job to do. Yet their marketing plans, which largely rely on reaching travel agents and using Star Cruises' customer base, are modest. The country's tourism authority doesn't appear to have plans to help them in the way Singapore has helped Sentosa.

Undaunted, Tan predicts AGI's profits will double by 2011, due to the gaming and tourism revenues. Adds AGI's chief, Sian: "We really had to sell the Philippines as a center for outsourcing before we could sell the Megaworld project. This is the same thing."

At Tan's first time gambling last summer, he lost all his money at the poker table. Despite the risks, he insists, for his company's bet on Philippines gaming: "The odds are better."

who's your daddy now?:lol:

I think with this tower they must put a leveled skybar or dining within the observatory deck and overlooking around the main observatory deck like a mezzanine floor, wow very spectacular view most especially at nite dining and drinking with surrounding landscape and minimal water feature like jungle in the sky....

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/adverg/skybar-1.jpg
I just do a fast hand sketch drawing about the design concept I am referring to the above.

^^ Nice design, Kuya Adverg! :okay:

But can you do your own render for the PAGCOR Tower?

@ Stanleymalls,
Thanks for your appreciation, I have sketches but I am not that good in 3d rendering, I try to post my proposed design for the tower.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2667701909_8365fe764b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2667631915_09efe9bbfc_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2667733851_2541726c83_b.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/23syec1.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2vvq6vq.jpg

the last pic looks amazing

Credit skyscraper100 for that render. :okay:

nice

This thing is UGLY. What's with that bulge in the middle of it? gross.

Definitely have to agree. The last render is amazing.
It's a different design compared to existing buildings. Especially because the spire is not that big as it maybe could be.
Looks a bit like the Seattle Space Needle though.

Usually the mid bulge you are talking too for what I know is also an observatory deck with dining and retail outlets for tourist souveiners and the spire that seem you interpret as a niddle, I remember there's one proposal in quezon city, philippines, a tower with the same concept of the spire and it depicts the form of pointed protruding the helmet of an army during the spaniards time and also represents the Philippine architecture.

I have a feeling the whole render for this tower may change. Might as well change it, for I'm already bored of the design..haha. whew! nosebleed!

Let's hope that the design will be iconic yet very Filipino.

malakas ang feeling ko na maiiba ng tuluyan ang render ng Pagcor Tower..................or not. :lol:.. Nagsawa na kasi ako sa design..:lol:..

English Please when you are here because we are not on the local thread:okay:

English Please when you are here because we are not on the local thread:okay:

my bad..Sorry:bash:

If only if I have blessed hands, I could draw a render of my own PagcorTower:lol:

IMO the design needs to be changed, made more modern.

At present the design looks too conventional (may i say classic?). And it does not look Filipino.

For such an expensive project, it deserves the best possible design, one that represents the Philippines in the most modern and Asian way.

imo, pagcor should hold a design-making contest. it's better to do that so that more concepts would be welcomed

^^definitely! But I think it's too late already for construction will come soon. I hope they change its form into a more unique,geometric or out of this world form, but they can retain the bamboo-like skin.

lol. isn't the bamboo-oriented design too much overrated already?
the bank of china tower's and taipei 101's designs are based on the bamboo.
i think the design based on the philippines' sun is a nice concept. but still it's the podium where it is to be put and a bird's eye view would only be the chance to see that one.
im hoping that the whole tower itself would be revised and not only the glassy structure would be the main showcase. why not something like made from capiz?:lol:

^^lol. yeah why not.

its this project, the location will be at center manila business district...??

^^the location will be at the manila bay reclaimed area.:) where a huge tourism project will take place.

Yes it was in the center of Manila District within the reclaimed land at Manila Bay and adjacent to SM City. That's why, if this will fully completed as planned, you can see much in this complex not just within it's territory but with the development along with its neighboring lands. The grandeur of it's totality would be amazing especially at night, seems you can see the bright sparkling and dancing lights like in Las Vegas, wow I can't wait to experience to see and enjoy the real thing.....

its like las vegas + sentosa singapore + dubai..:lol::lol: we hope

any update pic's of those projects?

^^ they refuse to release anything!
but they claim the project will begin next year.

Yes it was in the center of Manila District within the reclaimed land at Manila Bay and adjacent to SM City. That's why, if this will fully completed as planned, you can see much in this complex not just within it's territory but with the development along with its neighboring lands. The grandeur of it's totality would be amazing especially at night, seems you can see the bright sparkling and dancing lights like in Las Vegas, wow I can't wait to experience to see and enjoy the real thing.....

ah,thx for info..when this construction will finish, i will love to go for see that...^^
is this will be the highest tower in asia ??

^^ Maybe not Asia, but the World, because UAE is also part of Asia. It is touted to be the second tallest man-made structure/tower/building in the world, next to Burj Dubai.

^I've seen the ads on TV (CNN), and I really hope this would materialize amidst the global financial crisis.

Some PIctures of Pagcor project

http://www.pagcor.ph/simplegallery/images/abt-head-6.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/about-pagcor/ground-breaking-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/about-pagcor/ceo-gem-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/business-conference-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/ceo-senator-gordon-head.jpg

http://www.pagcor.ph/images/gallery/business-opportunities/proposed-waterfront-head.jpg

we hope it this will rise in PH soon few months to go...hu hu hu hu

well if they show this advertisement to all major station in different wealthiest Country in the world maybe some small and big investor would like to invest on manila... we are not really much affected with the global financial crisis but as what i've heard it will bound this crisis in the philippines by the first quarter of 2009 i hope this is not true..

The tower design on that pictures is the old design.