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QUEZON CITY - Alliance Global Group (AGI) is finalising plans to enter into a joint venture with Star Cruises Limited, an affiliate of the Malaysian conglomerate, the Genting Group, to develop a US$1.0 billion integrated leisure resort as part of the multi-billion dollar Bangong Nayong Pilipino Manila Nay Integrated City Project in the Manila Bay reclamation area....[/QUOTE]
reecebowker September 24th, 2007, 07:41 AM sweet
-Corey- September 24th, 2007, 07:41 AM LINKS??? INFO??
diz September 24th, 2007, 07:44 AM Exact same tower on a newspaper ad of the Bagong Nayong Pilipino E-City.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Image004_edited.jpg
JustHorace September 24th, 2007, 07:47 AM And that will be part of something bigger.
Pagcor’s 'Las Vegas' dream to cost $20B
State firm in talks with Greek, US gaming operator
By Daxim Lucas, Riza T. Olchondra
Inquirer
Last updated 04:00am (Mla time) 03/22/2007
MANILA, Philippines -- The government's Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) has raised its project cost estimate for an ambitious gaming complex -- to be patterned after Las Vegas -- that will rise on reclaimed land along Manila Bay.
Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Pagcor chair and CEO Ephraim Genuino said that as much as $20 billion-- equivalent to 16 percent of the country’s total economic output in 2006 -- would be spent in putting up the “Entertainment City.”
This marks a 33-percent hike over the initial $15-billion cost that was announced when the project was unveiled in 2001. Under the original plan, the investments and project cost would be spread out over a 10-year period.
“The project is a shift [for Pagcor] from gaming into entertainment,” Genuino told reporters at the Asian Gaming and Entertainment Plus Leisure Expo Manila. “We will form a Las Vegas in the Philippines.”
The complex, also called Pagcor City, will be built in three phases on 800 hectares of reclaimed land. The first phase will host a hotel-resort and theme park. The next two phases will have retirement villages and entertainment centers.
Separately, however, Pagcor officials said that only “$10 billion to $15 billion” would be spent on the first phase of the project, which would cover between 45 to 65 hectares of the total proposed area.
Genuino said that only 25 percent of the total land area has so far been reclaimed, with the rest to be added as the project gets underway.
Genuino also expressed confidence that the Pagcor City project will not encounter opposition, even from the Catholic Church.
“For us to hurdle opposition to gaming, we will follow Las Vegas,” he said. “I think the Church will understand. We are the biggest income generator for the government, and I think the Church will be mature enough to understand.”
The gaming firm said that it made P25 billion in revenue from casino operations in 2006, almost 10 percent higher than the P23 billion profit it posted in 2005.
The head of the state gaming monopoly revealed that they are already in talks with Greek casino and resort operator Loutraki—a major player in the European gaming industry—for the development of Entertainment City’s first phase.
“We have also spoken with Caesar’s Palace and Genting,” he said, referring to the US- and Malaysia-based casino operators.
Genuino said 90 percent of the funds for the project will come from foreign investors. Other funders from Japan, Europe, the US and South Korea have also signified interest in financing the project.
Japanese investors, he said, are interested in developing a retirement village within the area for the expanding Japanese retiree market.
He added that Pagcor was working on the technical requirements of the project, with preparatory work scheduled to begin this year. Construction would be completed by 2009.
“The thrust now is not casino gaming but total entertainment,” Genuino said. “In the global arena, only 25 percent of the revenues of gaming destinations such as Las Vegas come from actual gambling.”
He said the Philippines stands to gain substantial tourism revenues by taking an active role in the global gaming industry. He noted that even a conservative country such as Singapore has opened its door to casinos as it realizes the benefits to be derived from the industry.
“With Pagcor City, we will quadruple our tourists to 10 million in five years,” he said. “We hope we can catch up with Singapore and Macau.”
Genuino also said foreign investments in the project will be finalized once Pagcor’s charter is amended to allow the state-owned company to enter into joint ventures with foreign investors.
source (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view_article.php?article_id=56280)
diz September 24th, 2007, 07:49 AM This would be one of the earlier designs:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i30/wynngd/DSC_0042copy.jpg
beyond 1000 September 24th, 2007, 08:47 AM The Church should be mature enough to understand???? Understand what? To let a monster casino open up and do what it does best....RUIN more of society? Look at Las Vegas. The place is a social sewer. I'm with the church on this. Casinos make money for themselves and nothing else. Nevermind the hype they claim they help communities. They ruin more communities than they can help. You will have a richer society if you close down every casino on the planet.
I doubt you'll see this tower go up.
paw25694 September 24th, 2007, 08:52 AM cool :drool:
the top part is quite odd imo :D:D
wjfox September 24th, 2007, 08:56 AM Please provide a source for the height.
flymordecai September 24th, 2007, 09:28 AM The Church should be mature enough to understand???? Understand what? To let a monster casino open up and do what it does best....RUIN more of society? Look at Las Vegas. The place is a social sewer. I'm with the church on this. Casinos make money for themselves and nothing else. Nevermind the hype they claim they help communities. They ruin more communities than they can help. You will have a richer society if you close down every casino on the planet.
I doubt you'll see this tower go up.
This "E-City" will focus more on entertainment side (as that's where most of the money is made) than on the gambling side. Of course, there will be casinos also, but there will be amusement parks, etc.
And you can't be more wrong on "casinos making money for themselves and nothing else" PAGCOR provides revenue for the Philippine government, which filters back to the people in terms of infrastructure, health, education, and other things. Pagcor also donates large amounts of the money they generate to the Church and to other good causes.
But thanks for your 2 cents.
Max the Swede September 24th, 2007, 12:42 PM Hope they change the design, great height though;)
Jude12 September 24th, 2007, 12:44 PM noo wayy. How i wish that this would be built!! whoo. go Philippines! :D
IslandSon.PH September 24th, 2007, 01:59 PM this tower will put our mark back on the globe.:banana2:
six453 September 24th, 2007, 04:29 PM the design should be changed. nothing significant in terms of trying to make an identity. given the chance, they should make this one identifiable with the filipino people. not another tower just for the sake of height.
diz September 24th, 2007, 04:40 PM i dont understand what is wrong with the design
DAMN I m good September 24th, 2007, 05:05 PM ^^I think it looks little bit old and average
flymordecai September 24th, 2007, 05:15 PM ^^ Yup, the design is just a (much) taller Space Needle. Compare this tower to the Sumida Tower and the Guangzhou TV Tower and its design seems very old and unremarkable. The only thing it will have over those two towers is the height by 45m, if the height of 655m is correct. Other than that, those towers have much more iconic designs. So I'm hoping that they will change the design.
ZZ-II September 24th, 2007, 05:58 PM cool project...the tower in the first pic looks gigantic tall at 655m
Gaeus September 24th, 2007, 07:13 PM Nice looking tower. That definitely is definitely an icon and may help Philippines to prosper more. I wonder what's the budget for the tower alone?
ZZ-II September 24th, 2007, 09:19 PM i've no mention but i guess 200 million $ or more
vanhenrik September 24th, 2007, 11:08 PM this is not going to get bult !
lumpia September 24th, 2007, 11:35 PM this is not going to get bult !
... and why would u say that??
ZZ-II September 24th, 2007, 11:49 PM i wondered the same
diz September 25th, 2007, 12:41 AM i've no mention but i guess 200 million $ or more
20 billion dollars for the whole complex
vanhenrik September 25th, 2007, 12:56 AM ... and why would u say that??
i sems unreal !
diz September 25th, 2007, 01:00 AM actually this was announced in a morning news channel in the Philippines yesterday.
wynngd September 25th, 2007, 02:13 AM i sems unreal !
Same thing other people thinks when they heard the proposal of Burj Dubai.
But look where is burj dubai now... Let's just wait and see.
Lord_Bertrum September 25th, 2007, 02:20 AM I really hope this doesn't go ahead, Manila is a great city, maybe not the most beautiful at the moment but it does have potential. Something like this (the whole complex that is) will really damage that potential. I don't think Manila needs to become some kind of Las Vegas, there is already Macau. If the government want to build something like this, they should pick a regional location where this complex can stand on it's own. Somewhere else that could do with the jobs and infrastructure.
newyorkrunaway1 September 25th, 2007, 02:22 AM Same thing other people thinks when they heard the proposal of Burj Dubai.
But look where is burj dubai now... Let's just wait and see.
agreed completly!! wait and see, everyone thought the exact same thing about the burj dubai! how could anyone say something wont be built when they are from dubai, they get al kinds of wonders there! just because its not in dubai doesnt mean it wont get built!:bash:
-TC- September 25th, 2007, 02:33 AM Sorry for the blurred shot of PAGCOR's newspaper ad below... took it with my camera phone.
Exact same tower on a newspaper ad of the Bagong Nayong Pilipino E-City.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Image004_edited.jpg
wiki September 25th, 2007, 02:37 AM nice tower, i bet that the views from there are going to be awesome.
foadi September 25th, 2007, 02:38 AM cheese and rice
nayki September 25th, 2007, 02:45 AM I really hope this doesn't go ahead, Manila is a great city, maybe not the most beautiful at the moment but it does have potential. Something like this (the whole complex that is) will really damage that potential. I don't think Manila needs to become some kind of Las Vegas, there is already Macau. If the government want to build something like this, they should pick a regional location where this complex can stand on it's own. Somewhere else that could do with the jobs and infrastructure.
The Pagcor city is not in not located in the city of Manila. The project will rise in Bay City (a reclaimed area along Manila Bay) which is a part of Pasay City. Pasay city is just one of the Cities which composed the Metro Manila/ National Capital Region. Pasay city badly needed this development, they are left behind in terms of developments by other cities in Metro Manila like Manila city, Makati city, Mandaluyong city, Taguig city, Quezon city, and others.
c0kelitr0 September 25th, 2007, 02:50 AM unbelievable! that is so tall! :eek2: i really hope the Catholic Church won't be such a pain in the ass. they always oppose to anything that is "unholy" like gambling and casinos. such hypocrites! they always preach about living a meek life and have a vow of poverty, but the pope lives in a palace and wears red Prada shoes. :hammer:
philbern September 25th, 2007, 03:17 AM I really hope this doesn't go ahead, Manila is a great city, maybe not the most beautiful at the moment but it does have potential. Something like this (the whole complex that is) will really damage that potential. I don't think Manila needs to become some kind of Las Vegas, there is already Macau. If the government want to build something like this, they should pick a regional location where this complex can stand on it's own. Somewhere else that could do with the jobs and infrastructure.
I agree. Vegasizing will ruin Manila's position as a world city. And if the tower is indeed a serious proposal- and I seriously doubt it is, there is hardly any reason to look at this tower except for its height.
diz September 25th, 2007, 04:57 AM Again, it's not only a gambling complex, it has a theme park and even a stadium. Singapore is a perfect example for this project.
pi_malejana September 25th, 2007, 05:11 AM the government should start decongesting manila right now.. it'll just increase the population and of course the concentration of the gov't itself.. once that complex is erected, many provinces and "little cities" around the capital will be left behind.. again..:ohno:
khoojyh September 25th, 2007, 12:03 PM its tall enough, but i cant really take a look on the design
Jude12 September 25th, 2007, 12:17 PM i sems unreal !
yea. lets wait and see. :nuts:
Manila-X September 25th, 2007, 12:27 PM I agree. Vegasizing will ruin Manila's position as a world city. And if the tower is indeed a serious proposal- and I seriously doubt it is, there is hardly any reason to look at this tower except for its height.
There are already several casinos around Metro Manila especially in 5-star hotels. In fact The Heritage Hotel which is near the planned site has a casino on the ground floor. Other world cities around Asia have their Casino schemes like HK or Singapore.
Singapore which is an alpha world city is building their Sands Hotel and Casino. Will it ruin the city's status with its presence?
As for the tower, its a nice plan but it a sketch. If they are gonna build it, they need a good architect and of course, engineers. It would be cool to see this infront of Manila Bay but at least change the name and design.
And for the location, it may be in Pasay but its still part of Metro Manila. So technically, we can still consider it as Manila ;)
Butanding September 25th, 2007, 02:38 PM i cant wait to see this Tower next year :omg: :applause:
Xeon September 26th, 2007, 09:48 AM :banana:
whoaa seriously this is great news if it gets apprpved and built IMHO
yeaa i know about the gambling etc. but think of all the positive things it will bring to the area/country :) plus a mdern landmarkk !!!
Although I do agree they ought to focus more on improving the infastructures in Manila NCR
devilsadvocate September 26th, 2007, 09:55 AM Think we should leave out tv-towers... or make an extra section!
Not really a skyscraper for me!
Cristovão471 September 26th, 2007, 10:10 AM The design is kinda fugly, but atleast it has height, won't be too iconic though.
adverg September 26th, 2007, 10:25 AM I think there's nothing wrong with this project. As long you can do it, you have the right to show what your country can offer best to the whole world. If other country have envison this and made it, why Philippines CAN'T.
Tag_one September 26th, 2007, 10:33 AM ^^ and as long as there is money, which souldn't be a problem with casinos and hotels. I can't wait to see it U/C it's a great tower
Energy2003 September 26th, 2007, 10:50 AM macau has tradition in gaming ... but in Manila ?
two "Las Vegas" in South Asia ... is this a good idea ...
of course singapur would also be able for suche a project
adverg September 26th, 2007, 10:57 AM Let it be, who cares......
wynngd September 26th, 2007, 11:14 AM macau has tradition in gaming ... but in Manila ?
two "Las Vegas" in South Asia ... is this a good idea ...
of course singapur would also be able for suche a project
What is Macau's Tradition for gambling? Does Las Vegas has a tradition as well? That should be in East Asia. (South Asia is India)
According to the information from PAGCOR, this is an Entertainment City and not just a gambling area. There is a Theme park, Broadways and Sports Arean in the place.
Whatever it is, that projects gave us a megastructure that will become an ID for this entertainment City like how Burj Alarab and Burj Dubai gave to Dubai, and Sear Tower for Chicago.
JustHorace September 27th, 2007, 04:51 PM Okay, to start it all, that's not the tower's official rendering. It's just a mere press release type of plan. I think, the actual planning of the tower doesn't really start until after the first entertainment components have been built.
Second, the project's not about just casino and gambling. What they meant by the "next Las Vegas" was that they plan this project to be an entertainment complex - with live shows, themed hotels, cavernous shopping strips and the like. It ain't plain gambling. It's more of a mixed-use development - residential and commercial components included.
Jude12 September 28th, 2007, 05:15 AM ^^ ok but is 655 the officiaL height?
great184 September 28th, 2007, 09:31 AM I really hope this doesn't go ahead, Manila is a great city, maybe not the most beautiful at the moment but it does have potential. Something like this (the whole complex that is) will really damage that potential. I don't think Manila needs to become some kind of Las Vegas, there is already Macau. If the government want to build something like this, they should pick a regional location where this complex can stand on it's own. Somewhere else that could do with the jobs and infrastructure.
Agreed, some other city could use this, maybe Clark, Cebu, etc. And considering that it will be built in reclaimed land... However, if they do get a very reputable contractor, then this might excite me a bit.
F-ian September 28th, 2007, 10:09 AM I think its cool! so anyone know when will construction start-end? I mean of course w/ a tower that tall there has got to be a news about it :)....
Maxxclip September 28th, 2007, 10:13 AM Can't wait to see this:banana:
Can't imagine the area when SM Bay City and this PAGCOR project get materialized!:banana:
great184 September 28th, 2007, 11:15 AM Surprisingly, this will be very near the airport, yet compatible with the flight patterns of the planes which depart and arrive from either the side going to Rizal, or the Laguna Bay area. Even if I am not a fan of this proposal, I have to admit that it will be cool to view this from ascending/descending plane.
Middle-Island September 28th, 2007, 05:55 PM http://www.image-upload.net/files/8243/Image_441.jpg
It looks like something from an old World's Fair postcard. I find it hard to believe this is the final design. The design doesn't look realistic, structurally. It even looks like something that should be guyed with wires.
IsaRic September 28th, 2007, 06:56 PM me no like current design... well its not even final. is 655 meters the official height??? when do they commence groundbreaking?
ZZ-II September 28th, 2007, 09:25 PM don't think there's any date for groundbreaking until now ^^
nayki September 29th, 2007, 06:53 AM http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/pagcorcity.jpg?t=1191041169
PAGCOR Entertainment City Manila - Pasay City
Louman September 29th, 2007, 07:00 AM A reminder to everyone that none of the designs you see in the above poster are part of the final design. In fact, the tower in the poster is the previous rendition of the Pagcor Tower..... which I'm glad was changed.
MNL September 29th, 2007, 07:11 AM I'm really excited about this!!
Gattberserk September 29th, 2007, 07:25 AM If this get built at that rumored height, I suppose it will have the world highest observation deck?
Possibly even exceed the ones at RT
SugarFreak September 29th, 2007, 08:25 AM great tower...is this a premier casino and gambling city (Pasay City) in the whole country of Philippines??? Like the Mall of Asia and SM City Bacolod ,,, which has a spectacular view of scenic Manila bay,,,and the harbor of Guimaras strait... This will give the goers the added attraction of fresh air and breath taking view of this open waterway...
ZZ-II September 29th, 2007, 11:29 AM If this get built at that rumored height, I suppose it will have the world highest observation deck?
Possibly even exceed the ones at RT
when you believe the render on the first site i would say the OB deck will be on 500m or more
Gattberserk September 29th, 2007, 04:50 PM when you believe the render on the first site i would say the OB deck will be on 500m or more
That will be one hell of a view
Anyway just to refresh, what is the exact height of RT's proposed OD
NEWUSER September 30th, 2007, 05:05 AM http://www.philippine-builder.com/news/news/pagcor-sets-bidding-for-gaming-complex.html
adverg October 4th, 2007, 10:27 AM Is this the final design, if not any clear rendering and confirmed design for the project. TQ
ZZ-II October 4th, 2007, 10:30 AM i'm sure it is not the final design.
MNL October 4th, 2007, 02:02 PM ^^ me too.
Jarenz October 4th, 2007, 07:00 PM I hope they will come up with a better design... kinda realistic in style...
Jude12 October 14th, 2007, 04:04 AM psst. :D
anonymous_filipino October 14th, 2007, 09:25 AM it's still proposed, so there is still a possibility of changing the design and maybe the state-run gaming firm here will have a design competition from foreign architects that will collaborate with our local architects. maybe we should contact the architect of guangzhou tower and ECADI to submit their design proposals.
Sentient Seas October 14th, 2007, 12:40 PM Damn, what a monster.
velut arbor aevo October 14th, 2007, 06:06 PM damn, looks ugly
diz October 15th, 2007, 02:15 AM awkward. i don't see anything ugly about it at all... even if it was made in a non-filipino city, it wouldn't look any different to me. it looks nice imo. same goes for the tornado tower that everyone thinks is ugly as well.
great184 October 15th, 2007, 03:41 AM damn, looks ugly
Yup its ugly... But its amazing to know that its high enough to pierce low-lying clouds. Is it true too that the proposed structure highest point will be as high as the mean elevation of Tagaytay and slightly more than half the height of Mt. Makiling (1109 meters). It is also true that it is double the height of any existing and proposed building right now in the Philippines.
Xelebes October 15th, 2007, 04:55 AM I definitely think this should be built in another Philippine city. This looks real gaudy in Manila - the capital of the Philippines. It's like putting the CN Tower in Ottawa.
Jude12 October 15th, 2007, 05:05 AM ^^ well..Manila is only possible place to build this kind of tower. :D
great184 October 15th, 2007, 05:09 AM No it's not... Give some other Philippine city this tower to boost its image and tourism. Manila has enough investments and developments pouring in to dwarf those cities outside its environs.
velut arbor aevo October 15th, 2007, 05:30 AM Yup its ugly... But its amazing to know that its high enough to pierce low-lying clouds. Is it true too that the proposed structure highest point will be as high as the mean elevation of Tagaytay and slightly more than half the height of Mt. Makiling (1109 meters). It is also true that it is double the height of any existing and proposed building right now in the Philippines.
I am not trying to downplay the existence of the tower once it is finished, but I really prefer a different design, it just doesn't fit Manila's current skyline. Since the city is investing a lot of money on tourism and investment, I would prefer them to come up with a better looking tower.
wulizhong October 15th, 2007, 05:42 AM Is there any better vision graph!?
diz October 15th, 2007, 08:27 AM ^^ Not yet. There is still a bidding going on.
Manila-X October 15th, 2007, 08:43 AM I am not trying to downplay the existence of the tower once it is finished, but I really prefer a different design, it just doesn't fit Manila's current skyline. Since the city is investing a lot of money on tourism and investment, I would prefer them to come up with a better looking tower.
It doesn't at all unless the metro builds the Lopez Centre and Skycity.
great184 October 15th, 2007, 10:50 AM Those proposed buildings are too far away to complement the tower's incredible height. In short it will dwarf everything around it.
IslandSon.PH October 15th, 2007, 12:04 PM that is why it aims to be manila's icon. nothing negative about the simple design IMHO, whats important is that they build the e-city alongside with this monster. i'll bet on this bro, this will be a statement to our neighbours and to the rest of the world. all we have to do now is be patient.
flesh_is_weak October 21st, 2007, 12:47 PM I definitely think this should be built in another Philippine city. This looks real gaudy in Manila - the capital of the Philippines. It's like putting the CN Tower in Ottawa.
No it's not... Give some other Philippine city this tower to boost its image and tourism. Manila has enough investments and developments pouring in to dwarf those cities outside its environs.
I AGREE :okay:
Xeon October 22nd, 2007, 01:32 PM Although I understand the statements above...
Other cities do not need a landmark structure/complex. Most Philippine cities just need more modern infastructures (coupled with advertisement) and development to attract more foreign tourists.
Seriously look at Palawan/Puerto Princessa it is just amazing, the scenery is beautiful but hardly anyone outside the Philippines know about it due to lack of advertisement, word of mouth etc.
Just developing potential tourist spots/cities in the Philippines would be enough to push the country to its deserved nickname IMO "Tropical Getaway" :)
flesh_is_weak October 22nd, 2007, 02:52 PM i happened to stumble upon this great book of architectural sketches displayed on National Bookstore, i believe that it was made by a Filipino architect/author, and i spotted some really great designs for a supertall observation tower, IMO, they should just scrap the design above and replace it with something more aesthetically pleasing, perhaps one of those designs in that said book
diz October 23rd, 2007, 08:03 AM I AGREE :okay:
They might as well pave their roads first.
flesh_is_weak October 23rd, 2007, 01:51 PM ^^trust me, they would if only their taxes find a way back home...
moving on...
are you with me when i say that both renders currently available are not worthy of being the Philippine's--and perhaps the world's second--tallest?
diz October 24th, 2007, 02:01 AM no unless you tell me why.
flesh_is_weak October 24th, 2007, 12:08 PM ^^well, both designs look totally outdated, and i daresay, mediocre (that is, in my opinion of course)...i'm optimistic though, that as soon as they being finalizing the planning for this baby, we'd start seeing something that is indeed worth boasting to the whole world about :)
SugarFreak October 30th, 2007, 10:25 AM Although I understand the statements above...
Other cities do not need a landmark structure/complex. Most Philippine cities just need more modern infastructures (coupled with advertisement) and development to attract more foreign tourists.
Seriously look at Palawan/Puerto Princessa it is just amazing, the scenery is beautiful but hardly anyone outside the Philippines know about it due to lack of advertisement, word of mouth etc.
Just developing potential tourist spots/cities in the Philippines would be enough to push the country to its deserved nickname IMO "Tropical Getaway" :)
good points...the other best ways to promote is through creating the online communities,,,and with the partnership or exchanging a links to the related sites
crispypata November 6th, 2007, 09:36 AM I hope this pushes thru..
win_wow November 6th, 2007, 09:47 AM is there a picture of the design?
pechie November 26th, 2007, 02:57 PM any news on this project?!
philippine_eagle November 27th, 2007, 02:01 AM whoaa, 655 metres? Definitely put Manila on the map regarding skylines
diz November 27th, 2007, 02:03 AM No. I believe the investors are still having talks with PAGCOR on which design to choose from.
germantower November 27th, 2007, 02:11 AM unbelievable! that is so tall! :eek2: i really hope the Catholic Church won't be such a pain in the ass. they always oppose to anything that is "unholy" like gambling and casinos. such hypocrites! they always preach about living a meek life and have a vow of poverty, but the pope lives in a palace and wears red Prada shoes. :hammer:
And bishops are abusing boys...there is something wrong in the church, but hey its offtopic....so i apologyse for the comment.....but i couldnt resist.
diz November 27th, 2007, 02:18 AM ^^ @cokelitro: I remember seeing Filipino nuns playing on slots... I think it was for charity. I can't remember. Back to topic! :D
philippine_eagle November 27th, 2007, 02:20 AM And bishops are abusing boys...there is something wrong in the church, but hey its offtopic....so i apologyse for the comment.....but i couldnt resist.
You're absolutely right. No need to apologize. The church can be out of touch with reality sometimes
richard24 November 27th, 2007, 04:42 PM ^^ @cokelitro: I remember seeing Filipino nuns playing on slots... I think it was for charity. I can't remember. Back to topic! :D
that was during a gaming expo here in mania, where pagcor initially revealed the pagcor city.
diz November 28th, 2007, 01:44 AM that was during a gaming expo here in mania, where pagcor initially revealed the pagcor city.
So the church's problem is what now? :D
hornnieguy November 28th, 2007, 01:55 AM "$20 billion-- equivalent to 16 percent of the country’s total economic output in 2006 -- would be spent in putting up the “Entertainment City.”"
Are you guys nuts???????
wynngd November 28th, 2007, 02:05 AM ^^Our investors will put that $20b not our government.
richard24 November 28th, 2007, 03:26 AM So the church's problem is what now? :D
i'm not pretty sure if the church is really the problem here., maybe its just that stupid priest i forgot the name of. and of course the "productive" (ehem ehem) people in the country., :) you know., :) hehehe., :)
I really hope they break ground for the whole complex by this december., :)
hornnieguy November 29th, 2007, 05:21 PM I just don't understand how investors can put down so much money on a whimsical project when the economy is small and not doing so well and the political situation is so precarious ( Coup attempt happened just today).
diz December 1st, 2007, 07:02 AM the economy is doing fine. the coup attempt was from a crazy former soldier who doesn't know what embarrasment means and yes, investors have already put down a lot of money on this project.
JustHorace December 1st, 2007, 07:13 AM I just don't understand how investors can put down so much money on a whimsical project when the economy is small and not doing so well and the political situation is so precarious ( Coup attempt happened just today).
Nah, it's just a shoot of excitement to make up for a boring week.
And the economy isn't small, nor can a stand-off at a ritzy hotel stop it from growing.
diz December 1st, 2007, 08:03 AM Isn't our economy the 24th largest or something?
pechie December 1st, 2007, 08:10 PM The Philippines is a newly industrialized country in South-East Asia. In 2004, it was ranked as the 24th largest economy by the World Bank according to purchasing power parity. It is the fastest-growing economy in Southeast Asia, posting a GDP growth rate of 7.5% in the second quarter of 2007, and has been compared to the economy of India in its sudden and rapid growth
pechie December 1st, 2007, 08:10 PM any updates on this one?!
xoelts December 2nd, 2007, 03:54 AM any pics there shows PAGCOR city or the plan of PAGCOR? like to see t...
skyscraper100 December 4th, 2007, 04:37 PM this is a pagcor tower height comparison (this is not the real design, i only made this, its only the height)
http://thumb10.webshots.net/t/50/650/1/72/11/2795172110102639350tdgMfk_th.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2795172110102639350tdgMfk)
pechie December 4th, 2007, 05:40 PM how come it is position as third!nevermind but it still gonna put manila skyline to the highest level....hahahaha!
skyscraper100 December 5th, 2007, 10:48 AM im sorry....it should be the second tallest!:)
trafficlikeme December 5th, 2007, 11:27 AM I agree with everyone who opposes to the construction of this tower.
Read my thoughts on the 'E-City' thread.
Everyone is building casinos, (Singapore, Macau, etc.) why not the Philippines?
The real question is, why do we have to?
Do we really need to compete with what could be an over-crowded market?
Look at Abu Dhabi. Instead of competing with Dubai, they're going the opposite direction, positioning themselves as the capital of Arts & Culture in the Middle East.
I'm all for new developments and landmark structures (which Metro Manila seriously lacks) but this needs to be backed with a short, mid, and long-term plan on what ultimately will be Manila's selling point for tourists.
guest8888 December 6th, 2007, 03:07 AM why do we have to? Simple! Because we want more foreign currency, more tourists and more jobs created!
Do we really need to compete with what could be an over-crowded market? Definitely YES! Because we have a huge potential and advantage over macau and singapore - advantages that money cant buy or produce!
Abu Dhabi and Dubai? Not a good example! Both cities are in UAE. Its no surprise that these cities are going for the opposite directions! You simply cant draw a logical comparison using these CITIES and asian COUNTRIES.
diz December 6th, 2007, 03:34 AM that comparison says 665m...
and it looks different from the first rendering.
ZZ-II December 6th, 2007, 03:57 PM when you would read the post you would know the answer ;)
"this is a pagcor tower height comparison (this is not the real design, i only made this, its only the height)"
pechie December 6th, 2007, 04:04 PM just to show others how it looks according to its heights!
xoelts December 6th, 2007, 08:50 PM is this for real? or just an illusion of PAGCOR? & the tower looks kinda old model...do they have new design thats modern look...any updates
diz December 7th, 2007, 01:34 AM when you would read the post you would know the answer ;)
"this is a pagcor tower height comparison (this is not the real design, i only made this, its only the height)"
oh. i don't read.
uhm. so 665m and not 655m?
ZZ-II December 7th, 2007, 09:53 PM yes, 655m
earlat December 14th, 2007, 02:07 AM ^^ Is this for real or what?
_zner_ December 14th, 2007, 03:30 PM its gonna be a huge disappointment once again in ssc-philippines.
its just me, dont mind me guys! :D
whatever happened btw in skycity tower?
ZZ-II December 14th, 2007, 07:02 PM ^^ Is this for real or what?
we've not much information yet, so until now i don't think it will become reality
the sock December 31st, 2007, 05:14 PM it looks like a taller cn tower, but still looks fab, hope its built.
jmok January 1st, 2008, 09:05 AM it looks like a taller cn tower, but still looks fab, hope its built.
yup,we are really praying for this.
hope this will come into reality......
:):):):)
diz January 1st, 2008, 09:55 AM it looks like a taller cn tower, but still looks fab, hope its built.
it's the 2nd tallest after dubai.
Jim856796 January 1st, 2008, 09:18 PM This would be one of the earlier designs:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i30/wynngd/DSC_0042copy.jpg
In this rendering, a bunch of hotels are depicted. This city look like Genting Highlands. The tower in this earlier rendering does not look 650 metres tall. Will any kind of hotel(s) still be built with this tower? This is supposed to be an entertainment city.
diz January 2nd, 2008, 02:48 AM ^^ That tower is an old rendering compared to the new one. The reason for the different tower designs is to point out that there will be an observation tower when the design of the city does get finalized. It is an entertainment city. There will be casinos, a sports center, a theme park, and an observation tower.
the sock January 13th, 2008, 02:15 PM will the hotels and other buildings look as the rendering does?
filcan January 18th, 2008, 02:27 AM Most likely not, not even the tower has a final design yet...
xoelts January 18th, 2008, 05:35 AM any updates
c0kelitr0 January 18th, 2008, 11:20 AM ^^ This may take years before this will even begin construction. :D
The fact that PAGCOR is a government-owned company, this may result in several hearings and debates inside the Senate first before we can see any sign of construction ;) i will give this 10 years :lol:
zerokarma January 18th, 2008, 03:50 PM are there any better pictures of this thing?
ZZ-II January 18th, 2008, 04:01 PM no, unfortunately not
craziee86 January 30th, 2008, 06:49 PM looks unstable =(
c0kelitr0 February 4th, 2008, 04:44 AM this came out on the newspaper today. it's been approved by the government!
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/4/2/3/f_1002690m_429e057.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/2/3/f_1002690m_429e057.jpg&srv=img27)
diz February 4th, 2008, 05:01 AM So they took out the fountain in front of the tower?
I wonder what else they removed. Hopefully the (mono)rail system is still there.
c0kelitr0 February 4th, 2008, 05:05 AM ^^ well nothing is final yet.
but at least two big casino operators from the US have already given the intention to invest at least $1 billion each ;)
davee08 February 4th, 2008, 05:31 AM looks very unstable to me and the location is um..... nonetheless the design is something we haven't seen before so original concepts are always welcome and also the height at least for now it would make it the second tallest in the world, just hopes it does go under construction so that there will be a landmark skyscrapers for the philippines
_zner_ February 4th, 2008, 09:29 AM this came out on the newspaper today. it's been approved by the government!
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/4/2/3/f_1002690m_429e057.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/2/3/f_1002690m_429e057.jpg&srv=img27)
are they going to start the construction of that supertall tower this year? gawd! im so excited!
im sure its not going to take too much time to construct that tower, is it? :nuts:
Jude12 February 4th, 2008, 11:05 AM whats newspapaer is that? makabli nga. haha.
flymordecai February 4th, 2008, 12:07 PM this came out on the newspaper today. it's been approved by the government!
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/4/2/3/f_1002690m_429e057.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/2/3/f_1002690m_429e057.jpg&srv=img27)
c0kelitr0: Could you post the other half of the article? Actually some of the words at the top are cut off. Just asking so we can read what new information (if any) is in the article. Did they announce when they will start construction? Or did they talk about the tower project at all? Thanks!
the sock February 4th, 2008, 09:23 PM that render looks alot taller than 655meters?
ZZ-II February 4th, 2008, 09:40 PM looks more a bit smaller than 655m IMO ^^
jaja3000jaja February 4th, 2008, 09:54 PM K, I'm sorry but that just looks like a redesigned CN Tower.
flying_olympic February 4th, 2008, 10:06 PM I think its looks great! though jaja is right...kind of reminds me of a Hybrid of the Cn tower and the Pearl tower in Shanghai..
diz February 5th, 2008, 12:45 AM ^^ That is a logical design for the city of Manila. A tower that looks like a palm tree and is painted in a different scheme would look tacky in a city like Manila. That tower is near perfect. And as if there are other designs that suit Manila..
filcan February 5th, 2008, 01:26 AM K, I'm sorry but that just looks like a redesigned CN Tower.
I dont see how that looks like the CN tower...almost all observation towers pretty much have the same design. A long vertical base with an observation decks and an antenna on the top. I especially like that spherical portion in the middle...i wonder what it would be used for...
diz February 5th, 2008, 10:12 AM I dont see how that looks like the CN tower...almost all observation towers pretty much have the same design. A long vertical base with an observation decks and an antenna on the top. I especially like that spherical portion in the middle...i wonder what it would be used for...
This is what I was trying to say. :D
Anyway, to me this is a new design. This is Manila, a very simple city, unlike Guangzhou where it's China, and everything has to look out of the ordinary. Imagine the Guangzhou Tower being built in Manila, it would look so tacky.
nakoi28 February 5th, 2008, 05:00 PM Doesnt look 655m at rendering.
EuroMaster February 5th, 2008, 05:04 PM I don't like the tower. For me it's too ugly. But that is only my opinion! :)
skyscraper100 February 5th, 2008, 10:00 PM i like the design :) :) :)
im so excited!!
filcan February 6th, 2008, 01:14 AM i think ang kulang sa design is the white vertical support...that part needs to be redesigned but the observation decks are very nice:)
IsaRic February 6th, 2008, 01:20 AM ^^ This may take years before this will even begin construction. :D
The fact that PAGCOR is a government-owned company, this may result in several hearings and debates inside the Senate first before we can see any sign of construction ;) i will give this 10 years :lol:
but the 'government' is not where the funds are coming from :)
P A L February 6th, 2008, 03:22 AM This is the most gorgeous tower in the world, the rest is just so so like CN! :D
diz February 6th, 2008, 03:33 AM ^^ Not quite.
skyscraperboy February 6th, 2008, 03:35 AM The design is so boring and not innovative at all.
diz February 6th, 2008, 04:15 AM ^^ Weird, to me, it's a way better version of the KL Tower..
ryanr February 6th, 2008, 04:22 AM ^^ hey, lets not turn this into CvsC;)
anonymous_filipino February 6th, 2008, 05:05 AM I dont see how that looks like the CN tower...almost all observation towers pretty much have the same design. A long vertical base with an observation decks and an antenna on the top. I especially like that spherical portion in the middle...i wonder what it would be used for...
this will be an icon of Manila. the location is perfect, beside the sea, but they need to strengthen the foundation so liquefaction will not occur in the event of a strong earthquake. remember this tower will stand on a reclaimed land.
the spherical portion will be the lower observation deck and rumors has it that it will also house PAGCOR's new HQ
diz February 6th, 2008, 05:18 AM ^^ hey, lets not turn this into CvsC;)
No. This tower reminds me more of the KL Tower more than any of the ones mentioned.
EDIT: Oh! Didn't realise he was from KL!!:lol: sorry. :)
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Too bad their priority is the Whole Gaming Complex... They should pay a lot of attention on the tower since it's getting a lot of attention due to its massive height..
c0kelitr0 February 6th, 2008, 01:28 PM ^^ the Entertainment City will only have a few establishments that will house casinos. they want to turn this into something like Las Vegas.
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Yeah, i stand corrected about what i have said several pages back. This might be a government endeavor but the funds are coming from the private sector, so this might begin construction before 2010.
filcan February 6th, 2008, 03:22 PM At night there will be an amazing view of the casinos and flashy lights of the entertainment city and then further off in the distance you will see all the metro manila skylines and the mountains beyond:D...but the sad thing is you will also see squatters:(
Jude12 February 7th, 2008, 12:59 PM Philippine Daily Inquirer, Febuary 4, 2008
The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) enters 2008 on a high note, following an exceptionally strong performance and surfeit of accomplishments in the past year.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5333/scanqr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Landmark Bill
In June, PAGCOR experienced its most significant event for 2007 the passage of the Republic Act 9487 otherwise known as the PAGCOR Bill. Signed into law by no less than the President, this important piece of legislation grants the state run gaming firm a 25-Year extension to its franchise, renewable for another 25 years.
This in itself is a breakthrough for the country as it signifies the growing recognition bt the government of the benefits of a legalized gaming industry.
With this, PAGCOR can now go full gear with the implementation of its multi-billion dollar tourism development project, the Bagong Nayong Philippino- Manila Bay Integrated City
People have been hearing about the entertainment cityproject invisioned by Genuino as early as 2001. However, its implementation was hampered by pending expiration of the PAGCOR franchise. But thanks to the timely approval of RA 9487, this ambitious dream is now fast becoming a reality.
The Bagong Nayon Pilipino-Manila Bay integrated City will initially cover about 85 hectares of reclaimed land in Bay City area and will be developed in various stages over the next 10 years.
It will be a fully integrated tourism zone featuring a wide array of iternational grade facilities amenities such as posh luxury hotels, convention stores, state of the art theaters, sports stadiums, restaurants, shopping centers, cultural complexes and museums, amusment parks and an Observation Tower that will be among the tallest structures of its kind in the world.
Meanwhile, the second and third phases of the project include the development of other tourism hubs in the country such as Clark in Pampanga and Cebu in the Visayas.
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great184 February 7th, 2008, 01:23 PM I'm sorry but the globe does not match the higher observation deck. A redesign of the decks is sufficient.
Xeon February 7th, 2008, 01:29 PM the design is not bad and the height is going to be imposing considering Manila's backdrop of mostly flat coastline :)
but i wonder though why PAGCOR did not choose well known architects both Native/International for this massive project :bash:
Sentient Seas February 8th, 2008, 12:04 AM Wow, that will definitely catch an eye from WAY out at sea...
I like the renders, will be interesting to see how this goes.
diz February 8th, 2008, 12:59 AM I'm sorry but the globe does not match the higher observation deck. A redesign of the decks is sufficient.
the higher obs deck looks similar to the tower's base. ;)
the globe works on its own.
BTW, I just saw a pic of the CN Tower, I don't know why people are saying it's a redesign. I don't see any similarities..
flying_olympic February 9th, 2008, 02:58 AM ^^ you're right...the top looks more like the Stratosphere in Vegas..but i still like ....i want it now! lol
cheeps February 9th, 2008, 02:59 AM WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
diz February 9th, 2008, 03:12 AM ^^ you're right...the top looks more like the Stratosphere in Vegas..but i still like ....i want it now! lol
I disagree. No similarities exept that they're probably both full glass and steel in the observation deck.
filcan February 9th, 2008, 03:57 AM the higher obs deck looks similar to the tower's base. ;)
the globe works on its own.
BTW, I just saw a pic of the CN Tower, I don't know why people are saying it's a redesign. I don't see any similarities..
I guess its because its the most famous observation tower in the world...every observation tower gets compared to it;)
Love my city's CN Tower by the way...hence its my avatar:okay:
systematica February 9th, 2008, 04:25 AM Why the heck would they think of building such a tall thing so close to the airport? The proposed location is a couple kilometres from the country's busiest runways.
great184 February 9th, 2008, 07:48 AM Why the heck would they think of building such a tall thing so close to the airport? The proposed location is a couple kilometres from the country's busiest runways.
The site is parallel to the runway so it can be built within the vicinity.
-=JAG=- February 9th, 2008, 05:25 PM Sorry,but the Tower looks weird/outdated somehow.
P A L February 9th, 2008, 11:51 PM ^i don't think so
flymordecai February 14th, 2008, 09:47 PM http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1338/masterplangq3.jpg
Looks like the Pagcor Tower will likely go up because it's integrated into the masterplan. No we just play the waiting game. :(
diz February 15th, 2008, 12:49 AM That is indeed awesome.
P A L February 15th, 2008, 02:23 AM the master plan is freakin awesome
rj2uman February 15th, 2008, 03:29 AM Agreed the master plan looks great. But this tower SUCKS! White? I mean with the Smog in Manila they better be painting or cleaning it every day!
diz February 15th, 2008, 04:20 AM ^ :lol: I don't think the smog is that bad near the bay. ;)
Jarvijarv March 22nd, 2008, 10:00 PM ...any news on this? :dunno: has this been approved or proposal stage, still? :shifty: the Tower really needs to get built first, then the casinos/hotels can follow right behind. This will put Manila on the map big time!! :yes:
helghast March 22nd, 2008, 10:06 PM when did it get app ?????
ZZ-II March 22nd, 2008, 11:22 PM he didn't say it has been approved ^^
diz March 22nd, 2008, 11:31 PM It's been apporved.
ZZ-II March 23rd, 2008, 12:33 AM cool :)
davee08 March 23rd, 2008, 01:44 AM awesome masterplan and tower might not be to my liking for now but at least its been approved which is the main part
great184 March 23rd, 2008, 03:54 AM Let's hope that they rethink the design of the tower over again.
filcan March 23rd, 2008, 02:03 PM most likely the tower will not be built the way it looks in the render because the render was drawn up very early in the planning process...plans change over time so there is a good chance a better looking tower will emerge...i doubt that it will go all the way up to 655m though...
Alle March 23rd, 2008, 02:26 PM Will this towers offer some kind of communication services?
Shortest Skyscraper March 23rd, 2008, 05:27 PM Is there a real 3D render anywhere?
beyond 1000 March 23rd, 2008, 06:17 PM I still like the original rendering of the tower but it does need some improvement. I would like to see the original plan of the proposed height. Lowering it kind of kills the impact. Good luck to the project. This may take some time to get this going however.
filcan March 23rd, 2008, 06:18 PM Will this towers offer some kind of communication services?
yes its planned to be partly a communications tower for Metro Manila...it will reduce the need to add more comm towers in the future.
Is there a real 3D render anywhere?
as of now...no...just a few 2d renders and a map of the proposed site.
joeverzosa March 23rd, 2008, 06:45 PM It may be approved but I highly doubt it will be built...
xoelts March 23rd, 2008, 08:22 PM is this for real?
ZZ-II March 23rd, 2008, 08:36 PM yes, the project is real....but as joeverzosa said above, i also have my doubts it will ever get build :)
helghast March 28th, 2008, 09:30 PM yeah same here^^
skyphire March 30th, 2008, 05:45 AM Is there any updates?
flymordecai April 1st, 2008, 11:50 PM Plans for biggest RP tourism dev’t project bared today
Manila Bulletin
http://www.mb.com.ph/MAIN20080402120806.html
Four concepts for the Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City – the Philippines’ biggest tourism development project ever – will be unveiled during the Gaming and Investment Conference for the 2008 Asia’s Gaming and Entertainment plus Leisure Expo (Asia’s GEM) today, Wednesday, April 2.
The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (Pagcor), through Board Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Efraim C. Genuino, will announce details of the approved concepts for the project in the conference at the Hyatt Hotel and Casino in Malate, Manila.
When completed, the $ 15-billion project is expected to boost tourist arrivals in the country by over a million to three million annually, generate over 250,000 new jobs, and dramatically increase government earnings.
A big local firm and conglomerates from Australia, Japan, and Malaysia submitted the approved concepts for the Bagong Nayong Pilipino, which also formally breaks ground during Asia’s Gem 2008.
All concepts for the project underscore the Philippines as a major tourist destination and an ideal site for "integrated resort" developments – that is, an entertainment and leisure complex that features a complete range of world-class amenities for people of all ages.
The proponents see the Bagong Nayong Pilipino having six-star hotels, gaming facilities, malls, museums, cultural centers, sports arenas, residential villages, and theme parks, with slight variations in each of the four proposals.
One proponent sees the Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City, which will initially be built in 90 hectares of prime reclaimed land, as a "live, work, and play" complex 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The concept includes hotels and a popular theme park.
Another sees a resort with symbolic landmarks and amenities that represent "the very best of their type in Asia," including one of the largest Ferris wheels in the world.
Another foreign proponent sees the Bagong Nayong Pilipino built around three hotels facing Manila Bay, positioned to create "an unmistakable skyline address" for its resort complex.
A fourth sees the project having an "iconic structure" while seamlessly integrating with the existing amenities in the area.
Pagcor Chairman Genuino, who sees the project as the state-run firm’s ultimate legacy and contribution to the recovery of the country’s economy, said that the Bagong Nayong Pilipino will, "without cost to the government, create endless opportunities for local businessmen and generate jobs for our people."
Besides billions of dollars worth of revenues for the government in terms of direct foreign investments, lease payments, taxes, and tourism receipts, the Manila Bay Integrated City is expected to induce growth in locally based industries such as construction, information technology, food and beverage, hospitality, entertainment, and transportation.
Genuino has proposed that locators in the Bagong Nayong Pilipino pay salaries to their workers in US dollars, so Filipinos can earn as much as their counterparts in the gaming and entertainment industry abroad without leaving their families behind.
Pagcor co-presents Asia’s GEM 2008 with the EuroAsian Cooperation on Gaming Association (ECG), which Genuino heads as interim chairman. The expo is organized by the Asian GEM and Tourism Foundation, Inc.
It doesn't specifically say anything about a tower, but the fourth proposal's "iconic structure" might point to the 655m Pagcor Tower.
tyronne April 1st, 2008, 11:58 PM ^^Nice update!
filcan April 2nd, 2008, 12:51 AM It doesn't specifically say anything about a tower, but the fourth proposal's "iconic structure" might point to the 655m Pagcor Tower.
hmmm..."iconic structure"...that can be anything
wulizhong April 2nd, 2008, 02:31 AM When, when and when............?
No reason to discuss a lot about this project.
allan_dude April 2nd, 2008, 09:33 AM Korek! (Correct!) :hilarious
NOVO ECIJANO April 2nd, 2008, 10:21 AM :cheers:Star Cruises to build $1-B leisure complex in RP
04/02/2008 | 02:41 PM
MANILA, Philippines- Star Cruises Ltd. an affiliate of the Malaysian conglomerate the Genting Group, is finalizing a venture with local holding firm Alliance Global Group Inc. for the development of a $1-billion integrated leisure and resort complex which would be part of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp.'s Bagong Nayong Pilipino Manila Bay Integrated City Project.
In a statement, Alliance Global, which is the listed holding firm of businessman Andrew Tan said Star Cruises is partnering with its unit Travellers International Hotel Group. for the project.
Alliance Global said Pagcor hopes that the development will attract at least $4 billion in investments from both foreign and local investors and generate about 100,000 jobs.
Star Cruises and Travellers, Alliance Global said, are planning to build hotels with a minimum of 1,000 rooms spread out over several phases of development.
“Our proposal comes at an opportune time when there is increasing awareness of the Philippines as a tourist destination, with the country achieving a milestone in 2007 with a record three million tourist arrivals for the first time in its history," Tan said in the statement.
Star Cruises is a publicly listed company in Hong Kong with total assets $6.4 billion in 2007. Together with its affiliate, the Genting Group, it is involved in a diversified range of businesses including, leisure, hospitality, gaming, entertainment, cruise and cruise-related, power and oil and gas exploration.
The Genting Group, with total assets of $10 billion, is the largest Asian-based leisure, entertainment and hospitality conglomerate. - GMANews.TV
flymordecai April 2nd, 2008, 11:34 AM I hope the press will post pictures of the Pagcor concepts at the GEM Expo.
flymordecai April 2nd, 2008, 08:13 PM ARUZE, GENTING, SM, BLOOMBERRY,
GLOBAL TO INVEST $3B EACH
Pagcor unveils $15B gaming projects (http://www.malaya.com.ph/apr03/busi2.htm)
By GENIVI FACTAO
The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) yesterday unveiled four gaming and tourism projects near the Manila Bay and the international airport that will reach $15 billion.
Pagcor chairman and CEO Efraim Genuino said the companies are Aruze Corp. of Japan, Genting Berhad Group from Malaysia, SM Investments Corp. and Bloombery of Australia and Global Alliance with Star Cruises.
Each group will invest up to $3 billion and create 250,000 new jobs for the giant entertainment complex off Manila Bay and adjacent to the SM Mall of Asia.
Initially their investment would amount to $7 billion to $10 billion in 3 to 5 years. Construction is expected to start on the third quarter. The groundbreaking ceremony is set today.
Aruze Corp in a tie-up with Wynn Resorts, operator of Las Vegas and Macau casinos will build the Okada Resort Manila Bay including a casino with 2,000 room hotel, an oceanarium, and a giant Ferris wheel that will be known as the Manila Eye, after the London Eye.
Genting Berhad and Star Cruises will partner with Global Alliance, owner of McDonald’s Philippine franchise and Megaworld Properties will develop the Bagong Nayong Pilipino theme park.
SM will be building near the Mall of Asia a world class gaming facility in partnership with Asia Pacific Gaming from Australia. It also plans to construct a major luxury hotel to be managed by Radisson Hotels and Resorts.
Bloombery on the other hand, will be building 3 luxury hotels with a total capacity of 1,500 rooms with high end retail shopping, celebrity themed dining and a major entertainment and sports center.
Kazuo Okada, chairman of Aruze said "the most important thing in this investment is to attract all the people in the world and make them feel the fun and have pleasant experience We are pleased to have the opportunity to be involved in this area," Okada said.
Andrew MacDonald, executive vice president said the most important thing is to identify the market, plans, analyze, conduct research, test and modify the plans when needed.
"We recognize the partnership. We worked with the government to make sure that the operations are good for the community so the government may be proud of the development that we bring forward," MacDonald said adding that "it takes a strong and powerful regulatory body to move these things forward."
Genuino said the signing of the contract is expected to commence as early as second quarter of the year, after the proponents have submitted all the requirements.
The gaming and entertainment complex will be initially built across the 90- hectares of prime reclaimed land on the world-renowned Manila Bay.
The Star-Global partnership will see the cruise and gaming operator paying $335 million for half of an Alliance unit.
Star Cruises will buy half of Travellers International Hotel Group Inc, which has applied for a provisional gaming licence, with an eye to developing hotel and gambling resorts at the Philippines’ Newport City, adjacent to Manila’s airport.
In addition, Star Cruises plans to form a joint venture with Travellers — of which Star plans to own 40 percent — to develop another project in Pagcor City, which is nestled up against Manila Bay.
filcan April 2nd, 2008, 08:21 PM Great article...another oceanarium for Manila:cheers:
RonnieR April 3rd, 2008, 11:07 AM The Pagcor tower will become a reality....
ZZ-II April 3rd, 2008, 06:21 PM i hope they'll increase the height a bit....lets say to 700m :)
RonnieR April 4th, 2008, 04:32 AM When, when and when............?
No reason to discuss a lot about this project.
It will be a reality in 3 to 5 years. They already had a ground breaking yesterday. The government, the people and the church are fully supportive of this project....We have investors from Japan, Australia, Malaysia, US, China, Europe, etc.
Bricken Ridge April 4th, 2008, 05:15 AM Watch out Macau, this looks like a serious threat across the South China Sea!
NOVO ECIJANO April 4th, 2008, 10:04 AM 15-B Pagcor casino complex gets off the ground
By Daxim Lucas
Philippine Daily Inquirer
MANILA, Philippines—The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) has resurrected a plan hatched in the 1990s to put up a Las Vegas-style casino and tourism complex by Manila Bay.
When it was originally unveiled last year as the $20-billion “Pagcor Entertainment City,” it was met by considerable opposition from various values-driven organizations. The Catholic Church was a perennial critic.
For the ground-breaking rites Thursday, Pagcor invited three retired Catholic bishops and the founder of an “interfaith” group to grace the occasion.
Bishop Emeritus of Calbayog Maximiano Cruz led the prayer, assisted by former Malolos Bishop Cirilo Almario and former Imus Bishop Manuel Sobreviñas.
Last year, Pagcor chair Efraim Genuino expressed confidence the Pagcor City project would not encounter opposition, even from the influential Catholic Church.
“For us to hurdle opposition to gaming, we will follow Las Vegas,” he had said. “I think the Church will understand. We are the biggest income generator for the government and I think the Church will be mature enough to understand that.”
The value of the project launched Thursday was scaled down to $15 billion, according to the state gaming firm. Renamed “Bagong Nayong Pilipino-Manila Bay Integrated City,” the project brings together investors from Japan, Malaysia, the British Virgin Islands and local firms.
“Once built, the project will create over 250,000 jobs, becoming the biggest job-generating program of the government,” Genuino said during the ceremonies on a 90-hectare lot adjacent to the SM Mall of Asia in the reclamation area off Manila Bay in Parañaque City.
Asked about the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines’ well-established opposition to the gaming industry, Cruz said the role of the Church should be “to shepherd its flock” and “not to compete with the state in governing.”
Blessing of the Lord
“The Church will not oppose any new project as long as it has the blessing of the Lord,” Cruz said.
Also conspicuous at the event was the founder of the interfaith Apostolic Catholic Church, Patriarch John Florentine Teruel, along with about 50 of his followers dressed in white robes.
In an interview, Teruel said the project would be beneficial to the people, especially if a portion of what the government earned would be donated to the poor.
He also denied that his presence was because of any financial support provided by Pagcor to his church.
“Not even a cent,” Teruel said.
Others present during the occasion were Speaker Prospero Nograles, Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile, Rep. Ed Zialcita, Parañaque Mayor Jun Bernabe, Public Estates Authority chair Andrea Domingo, SM Investments head Tessie Sy, Andrew Tan of Alliance Global and former first lady Imelda Marcos.6-star hotels, parks
Pagcor said that Japan-based Aruze Corp., Malaysia’s Genting Berhad Group, Bloombury Investments Ltd. of the British Virgin Islands and SM Investments Corp. had gotten its approval to join the project.
As the country’s sole gaming regulator, Pagcor will oversee development of the project.
“When completed, it is expected to boost tourist arrivals in the country to over three million annually, generate over 250,000 new jobs and dramatically increase government earnings,” Pagcor said in a statement.
The complex will have six-star hotels, gaming facilities, malls, museums, cultural centers, sports arenas, residential villages and theme parks.
Buyckske Ruben April 4th, 2008, 10:23 AM link: http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view_article.php?article_id=56280
end more pictures of the project:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=454400&page=5
Buyckske Ruben April 4th, 2008, 10:32 AM http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5167/pagcottoweral1.jpg
Thats a really tall building wow i believe the second tallest after Burj!
flymordecai April 4th, 2008, 11:40 PM http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/327/okadavu2.jpg
Pagcor published a half page press release today with a picture of the complex that will have a semi submersible observation wheel. heres the same picture. look at the bottom of the observation wheel. notice how it dips into a man made lake? what did i say earlier!!!
The pagcor tower will be built by pagcor and will serve as their headquarters. The architect is local firm called JT Cruz and Partners. If they truly want to make this world class, they should hire an international firm known for making iconic landmarks and design a symbol not just for the complex but for the "new" philippines. they should learn from landmarks like the petronas twin towers (used muslim motifs, symbolic gateway to malaysia), burj dubai (billowing sail, a symbol of new dubai) or the beijing national stadium (birds nest, green olympics)
:banana: This is coming from a very reliable poster, someone who posted information about the submerged observation tower before the Manila Eye was announced by Aruze and Pagcor a couple of days ago.
P A L April 5th, 2008, 02:34 AM ^gorgeous
nakoi28 April 5th, 2008, 06:27 AM sweet
xoelts April 6th, 2008, 03:48 PM nice one...
RonnieR April 6th, 2008, 05:31 PM http://www.image-upload.net/files/8243/Image_441.jpg
Hi DIZ, is this the final design of the tower? Do you have a clearer picture? Thanks.
jefflacs April 6th, 2008, 10:48 PM Hi DIZ, is this the final design of the tower? Do you have a clearer picture? Thanks.
I saw one design/render (on an ad by Pagcor on the newspaper), basically it's just the same design but the base of the tower is closed (on that render, the base looks like it has some open spaces and are just made up of beams) and the middle section is more rounder/spherical and looks like a ball is pierced by the tower
Waldenstrom April 7th, 2008, 12:39 AM so will there be both pagcor tower & an obervation wheel in manila bay integrated city?
diz April 7th, 2008, 03:50 AM ^ Yep. The wheel will be built by an investor.. and the tower will be built by PAGCOR.
Waldenstrom April 7th, 2008, 12:11 PM ^^ thanks! that's great
anonymous_filipino April 9th, 2008, 06:18 AM no the tower will now be built by the Genting Berhad Group-Megaworld Corp. joint venture, while the wheel will be built by Aruze Corp. of Japan-Wynn Resorts joint venture.
Waldenstrom April 9th, 2008, 06:31 AM great news still. :D
dwyne April 9th, 2008, 06:54 AM Finally... just can't wait... is it true that it will be finished(speculations) by 2012?? I just hope the Mayan Calendar Doomsday and Planet Nibiru of 2012 is just a Morbid's dream :D
for sure there would be a Resto above the Tower... a nice place for the perfect date... :lol:
Waldenstrom April 9th, 2008, 10:15 AM ^^ :lol:
RonnieR April 9th, 2008, 11:31 AM no the tower will now be built by the Genting Berhad Group-Megaworld Corp. joint venture, while the wheel will be built by Aruze Corp. of Japan-Wynn Resorts joint venture.
great news....
beyond 1000 April 10th, 2008, 03:46 AM I think this will be a splendid tower. It seems the height of the observation floor up top may be over 500m. That would be an awesome height. It would be interesting to see a final rendering. Hope it has glass elevators.
:)
diz April 10th, 2008, 03:51 AM ^ :lol: I've always had trouble riding the Space Needle elevator.. not sure I'll survive that.
garzland April 10th, 2008, 12:15 PM Wow, this needs to get built asap. The design is just fine but not great. Hope, they really make it very iconic not just iconic.
filcan April 11th, 2008, 02:25 AM ^ :lol: I've always had trouble riding the Space Needle elevator.. not sure I'll survive that.
Space Needles nothing...subukan nyo yung glass floor elevators sa CN Tower:uh:
P A L April 17th, 2008, 01:29 PM :banana: :banana:
the future site of the Manila Bay - Pagcor Tourism City in the foreground
taken by Daniel Y. Go
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/danielygometromanila.jpg
alexela April 17th, 2008, 01:37 PM Is that a construction site already?
filcan April 17th, 2008, 03:31 PM ^^from what i saw in a recent episode of the Reporter's Notebook it looked like they were starting getting the land ready. There were dump trucks and bulldozers already doing some work in the area.
ZZ-II April 17th, 2008, 07:14 PM think the 655m tower will look damn awesome in this area....all other towers will look so small :)
Jude12 April 18th, 2008, 04:56 PM ^^ all the buildings in the Philippines are small. That's why let's get on with this baby! haha :D
jack1887 April 19th, 2008, 04:21 PM amazing
alexromualdez1121 April 22nd, 2008, 01:16 PM pag natayo na ung pagcor tower na yan it will be the world's tallest tower
nakoi28 April 22nd, 2008, 06:50 PM We're not in the philippine forums, speak in english. :D
ZZ-II April 22nd, 2008, 07:15 PM pag natayo na ung pagcor tower na yan it will be the world's tallest tower
it will not be the worlds tallest tower ^^
FrancisXavier April 24th, 2008, 06:28 AM haha..sorry for his ignorance.. probably he meant "tallest in the Philippines"
ZZ-II April 24th, 2008, 09:57 AM that's for sure :D
helghast April 25th, 2008, 01:13 AM i hope they'll increase the height a bit....lets say to 700m :)
lets say a height decress, 700m is way to out of poportion. id say it should be atleast 620m.
FrancisXavier April 25th, 2008, 08:59 AM Philippine Daily Inquirer, Febuary 4, 2008
The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) enters 2008 on a high note, following an exceptionally strong performance and surfeit of accomplishments in the past year.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5333/scanqr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Landmark Bill
In June, PAGCOR experienced its most significant event for 2007 the passage of the Republic Act 9487 otherwise known as the PAGCOR Bill. Signed into law by no less than the President, this important piece of legislation grants the state run gaming firm a 25-Year extension to its franchise, renewable for another 25 years.
This in itself is a breakthrough for the country as it signifies the growing recognition bt the government of the benefits of a legalized gaming industry.
With this, PAGCOR can now go full gear with the implementation of its multi-billion dollar tourism development project, the Bagong Nayong Philippino- Manila Bay Integrated City
People have been hearing about the entertainment cityproject invisioned by Genuino as early as 2001. However, its implementation was hampered by pending expiration of the PAGCOR franchise. But thanks to the timely approval of RA 9487, this ambitious dream is now fast becoming a reality.
The Bagong Nayon Pilipino-Manila Bay integrated City will initially cover about 85 hectares of reclaimed land in Bay City area and will be developed in various stages over the next 10 years.
It will be a fully integrated tourism zone featuring a wide array of iternational grade facilities amenities such as posh luxury hotels, convention stores, state of the art theaters, sports stadiums, restaurants, shopping centers, cultural complexes and museums, amusment parks and an Observation Tower that will be among the tallest structures of its kind in the world.
Meanwhile, the second and third phases of the project include the development of other tourism hubs in the country such as Clark in Pampanga and Cebu in the Visayas.
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for me, this design is okay. but i would prefer if they revive the design of the Centennial Tower which was supposed to be completed in time for Philippine Centennial Celebration in 1998.
CULWULLA April 25th, 2008, 09:53 AM can i ask a question. why 655m? is it to get tallest tower title? it only has to go above 610m for that.
ive worked out first turret is up approx250m and 2nd turret is 515m high. bloody high up
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