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www.sercan.de
March 9th, 2007, 01:40 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Galatasaray_Sports_Club_Logo.png/150px-Galatasaray_Sports_Club_Logo.png
Galatasaray SK

19x League: (record)
1962, 1963, 1969, 1971, 1972,
1973, 1987, 1988, 1993, 1994,
1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002,
2006, 2008, 2012, 2013

14x Cup: (record)
1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1973,
1976, 1982, 1985, 1991, 1993,
1996, 1999, 2000, 2005

12x Supercup: (record)
1966, 1969, 1972, 1982, 1987,
1988, 1991, 1993, 1996, 1997,
2008, 2012

1x UEFA Europa League:
2000

1x UEFA Super Cup:
2000

Big rendering
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/turkisi/stadyum/lounge/asp-aslantepe-B.jpg


http://i46.tinypic.com/1et94h.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2mwtbav.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/turkisi/stadyum/tribnden.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/turkisi/stadyum/seyrantepe_stadi04.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/turkisi/stadyum/seyrantepe_stadi05.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/turkisi/stadyum/sahadan.jpg







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yeahhhhh
i hope this time they will built it

new Ali Sami Yen Yen
52.000

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1774/aliprojexq1.jpg


i open a new thread when we have new pics and informations

skaP187
March 9th, 2007, 03:16 PM
looks like the Amsterdam Arena

skaP187
March 9th, 2007, 03:17 PM
by the way for which club is this one? Galatasaray?

www.sercan.de
March 9th, 2007, 03:30 PM
yep
Galatasaray
yes, Amsterdam Arena Advisory made it as i know
but we have to wait for the renderings and they detailed model
this model shows only the size and the location

Mo Rush
March 10th, 2007, 12:19 AM
wow..good stuff

www.sercan.de
March 10th, 2007, 12:34 AM
thanks
i hope it will be built
since 1996 we are waiting for a new stadium
this the the 3rd project

1996 / reactivated 2003
40.482
120,000,000 $-US
(2003 without the office tower and mall: 60,000,000 $-US)
http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/contractor_images/yolles/ali_sami-yen3.jpg
more pics
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8063709&postcount=99

2001
42.000
40,000,000 $-US
1st project was to expensive and a cheaper new project has been shown 2001
But again never built because of the bad financial Situation
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1536/hhhhhh2aneh8.jpg
more pics
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8063709&postcount=99

2002-2003 there were rumours about a stadium project like the Kashima Stadium

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March 10th, 2007, 12:47 PM
more informations about the stadium
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6986/3004995iw9.jpg

Will be ready for 2009/2010 season (i hope so)
Architects: Yüksel Proje & ASP Stuttgart GmbH
capacity: 52.000
-will have a retraceable roof
-cost: ~100 mil $-US
-100 suits (i hope it will be more..the old projects had 125 and 160 suits)
-5.000 parking lot's

entrance floor:
VIP entrance, players area, warm-up area, press room, conference room, TV studio, depo of the technical service, 520 VIP parking lot

1st floor:
400 VIP parking lot, 1.600m² room for media and TV, kitchen, service,
depots

2nd floor:
café, restaurant, rest/relaxation area, VIP guest rest/relaxation area for 250 persons

3rd floor:
VIP special salon, restaurant, suites, Galatasaray SK offices

4th floor:
VIP watching place, foyer, suites, Galatasaray Museum, GS Store, club offices

5th floor:
cafés, restaurant, mall, depots


pleasseeee
this thime we have to built it

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April 11th, 2007, 10:39 PM
new pics of the proposed stadium of Galatasaray
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9267/proje1vy6.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7330/proje2yr6.jpg

antigr12
April 11th, 2007, 11:03 PM
not bad stadium , with a sliding roof

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April 12th, 2007, 10:02 AM
more pics
unfortunately the 2nd tier is in the "laola" style like da Luz, Emirates or Alvelade

as i know an expansion (3rd tier) is impossible??!!

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/04/11/11042007_11.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/04/11/11042007_12.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/04/11/11042007_13.jpg

skaP187
April 12th, 2007, 10:36 AM
If it is build the same way as the Amsterdam ArenA, it is possible to expand.
(thought it was a simular design)
Ajax is planning to go to +/- 65 000

www.sercan.de
April 12th, 2007, 11:15 AM
maybe you can see it
the 2nd tier is like the 2nd tier of da Luz, Emirates or Alvelade
it has got this "laola" style tier

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April 12th, 2007, 06:03 PM
http://www.sabah.com.tr/2007/04/12/im/ABF634149F97E9458EE67FB1r.jpg

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS
April 12th, 2007, 06:24 PM
Sercan are they going to build the above stadion or is just a proposal?
and what is the capacity?

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April 12th, 2007, 06:32 PM
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS
its like PAO and AEK
so many proposals since 1996 but the result is the same
But this time the state is behidn the project
so its very close (maybe not so clos like PAO) to be realized

the agreement between GS and the state says min. 52.000
And IMO it will be 52.000
it will have 2 storey high suite boxes in every stand (120-160)

accoring to the President these pics are concept plans
as you can see they aren't vrey detailed etc.

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS
April 12th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Thanks :)

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April 19th, 2007, 08:18 PM
again some news about the new Galatasaray stadium
-150 boxes
-3000 parks under the stadium
http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/04/19/spor/resim/aspo.jpg

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April 22nd, 2007, 08:54 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9409/280862122440lo1qy6.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9325/28145stad4122530lo1dc3.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5770/63316375cx9.jpg

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April 24th, 2007, 11:23 PM
interior pic of the Galatasaray stadium
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7867/grnt010mh0.jpg

GNU
April 27th, 2007, 02:22 PM
^^ thats great looking.
I hope that we can see some official renderings soon.

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May 2nd, 2007, 10:51 PM
detailed pics of the new Galatasaray stadium

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/3559/asy1rv7.jpg
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2033/asy3yx7.jpg
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/3310/asy2db9.jpg

GNU
May 3rd, 2007, 11:50 AM
^^ so its gonna have two stands?

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May 3rd, 2007, 12:16 PM
yes
but the 2nd tier will be like Allinaz 3rd tier
1st tier will have 2 different angles
first 22 rows are ~23°
the last 13 rows of the 1st tier are ~26°
so, the first tier will have 35 rows

the 2n tier will have 27 rows in the mid sections and 19 rows in the corners (34°)

so total 62 and 54 rows

according to the Galatasaray magazine the capacity will be 52.000 without vip boxes

150 suits/boxes are planned (main and toward stand 2 storey high and 1 storey high at the stands behind the goal)

But it looks like they will change it to 180 boxes (2 storey high at the stands behind the goal)

so 52.000 + 150*10 = 53.500

IMO the capacity will be between 54.000-55.000 (all seater)

GNU
May 3rd, 2007, 12:59 PM
But it looks like they will change it to 180 boxes (2 storey high at the stands behind the goal)

so 52.000 + 150*10 = 53.500

IMO the capacity will be between 54.000-55.000 (all seater)

180 suits is a high number.
I would also say that the cap. should then go up to around 55k.
Thats a pretty healthy capacity for a football stadium.

www.sercan.de
May 3rd, 2007, 04:51 PM
but 180 is still not clear

first they said 130 (2 storey high boxes, but only at main and opposite stand)

now they say 150 and new aim is 180 :D

9th or 10th or 11th ( :D ) they want to present the project
after the presentation they will start to sell the suits

the 1st stadium project (1996) had 125 suits (with balcony) and 72 boxes (without balcony)

the 2nd project (2001) had 160 suits

www.sercan.de
May 4th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Level 1
parking, dressing rooms, media rooms
http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/15386/2004501101362560430_rs.jpg

Level 2
1st tier WC's and snak bars etc
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/16316/2002655906510850114_rs.jpg

Level 3
42 VIP suits at main (21) and opposite stand (21) and big restaurant and bar at one of the behind the goal stands (yeni acik stand-"left stand")
http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/15204/2002680072559370786_rs.jpg

level 4
109 VIP suits at main (26), opposit(26) and "eski acik" stand (57) and big restaurant and bar th the "yeni acik stand"
http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/15939/2002647684013581859_rs.jpg

level 5
http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/14524/2002649105645505452_rs.jpg


the area and the planned roads
http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/13734/2000579906889767427_rs.jpg

there will be a 200m long tunnel under the TEM highway, which will have 12 lanes at that area, to connect the complex with the metro station

Genç
May 9th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Gala's stadium looks fantastic!

I'm proud to be a supporter. :D

Genç
May 9th, 2007, 09:13 PM
It's the planned project for Galatasaray's new stadium. Although it's loosely based on the A/Arena, the lines are much cleaner, and the tiers are very different.

GNU
May 10th, 2007, 11:08 AM
Yeah it looks a bit similar to the amsterdam arena.
Great project for Galatasary. Its really about time for that.
Hope to see some interior pics also.

www.sercan.de
May 10th, 2007, 11:11 AM
i have taken some
but from tv and mobilephone cam

http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/16315/2002082227760019142_rs.jpg
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/15195/2002036986684076264_rs.jpg
http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/14881/2002033967502676932_rs.jpg
http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/13901/2002072696496087811_rs.jpg
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/16635/2002066314603872102_rs.jpg
http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/14502/2002510904397985905_rs.jpg
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/16891/2002529118118370781_rs.jpg
http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/14993/2002502799025690005_rs.jpg
http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/15766/2002520201044373739_rs.jpg
http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/13881/2002643622226631679_rs.jpg
http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/16057/2002657848372642738_rs.jpg
http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/15831/2002683979764706076_rs.jpg
http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/16187/2002128208981491234_rs.jpg


my fav one :D
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/16891/2002568896548464444_rs.jpg

BTW, Amsterdam ArenA Advisory is also involved in this project
ASP
Schlaich Bergermann and Partner
Yüksel Proje

www.sercan.de
May 10th, 2007, 11:21 AM
these ones are better
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/341/s1qp7.png

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5961/s2pv9.png

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8232/s3tg8.png

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5527/s4si4.png

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9335/s5mv3.png

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3225/s6to8.png

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6474/s7sn5.png

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9623/s8rh7.png

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/54/s9bp3.png

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4654/s10bd5.png

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/634/s11gk0.png

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4962/s12zs3.png

Genç
May 10th, 2007, 11:46 AM
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/54/s9bp3.png
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9623/s8rh7.png

In picture #1 it looks like the roof panels are solid black? Whereas in #2, they seem to be silver column-like structures.

I prefer the black versions. :D

www.sercan.de
May 10th, 2007, 02:25 PM
qTT2aIkeKw0

enjoy it :D

skaP187
May 10th, 2007, 02:54 PM
I don´t know Sercan, I always prefer the stadiums where the second ring is bigger then the first one. It makes the stadiums look bigger and more powerfull. For instants in Germany I would always prefer the HSV stadium over the Schalke 04 stadium, but that´s my opinion.

www.sercan.de
May 10th, 2007, 03:25 PM
yeah
we as GS fans wanted the same
i think itc because of the high demand of suits (bigger radius) and business seats (more rows in the 1st tier)

but for the entireness of the fans a 1st big tier is better IMO

like a lil kop or südtribüne

GNU
May 11th, 2007, 11:11 AM
Thanks for those pics Sercan!

The interior looks very good. (any idea what coulour of the seats will be?)
Thanks to the 2 VIP tiers itll also look quite big.
Atleast fairly bigger than the AOL which only has two VIP tiers at the main stand.

GNU
May 11th, 2007, 11:12 AM
In picture #1 it looks like the roof panels are solid black? Whereas in #2, they seem to be silver column-like structures.


I think they are supposed to be transparent.

Quintana
May 11th, 2007, 11:13 AM
I don´t know Sercan, I always prefer the stadiums where the second ring is bigger then the first one. It makes the stadiums look bigger and more powerfull. For instants in Germany I would always prefer the HSV stadium over the Schalke 04 stadium, but that´s my opinion.

I feel exactly the same. AOL Arena has been my favourite German stadium since its completion. The Veltins Arena never did it for me.

www.sercan.de
May 11th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Thanks for those pics Sercan!

The interior looks very good. (any idea what coulour of the seats will be?)
Thanks to the 2 VIP tiers itll also look quite big.
Atleast fairly bigger than the AOL which only has two VIP tiers at the main stand.

in the video the seats are darkred
like Galatasarays red
Ali Sami Yen said this about the colours when they visited a tailor who showed them 2 cloths side by side (thats also the reason why GS home kit isn't striped :D its divided like Feyenoord :D )

"dark yellow which has some orange tone inside & red like rotten sour chery"
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9688/renkler3wv.png

GNU
May 11th, 2007, 11:29 AM
in the video the seats are darkred
like Galatasarays red


So all the seats will be red?
Will definitely look better instead of having them all in yellow. ;)

GNU
May 11th, 2007, 11:30 AM
I feel exactly the same. AOL Arena has been my favourite German stadium since its completion. The Veltins Arena never did it for me.

Problem of the Veltins arena was always that the wall that separates the spectators from the pitch is far too high imo.
Whereas the spectators in the AOL arena are almost on pitch level.

www.sercan.de
May 11th, 2007, 11:31 AM
some caps of the video (for the lazy guys :D )
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8865/gecekyj6.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/979/giristx7.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2555/kontrollermetroue2.jpg

at the right side you will wtah in a valley
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8482/metrodan2nf7.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2953/vadidenrf7.jpg

the red seats, some users at GS forums complained about the "white seats" :nuts:
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6141/tribunlerboskd3.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5937/tribunlerdoluuu5.jpg

www.sercan.de
May 11th, 2007, 11:42 AM
So all the seats will be red?
Will definitely look better instead of having them all in yellow. ;)

i have made this ones 1 week ago :D
a
(the 2nd tier isn't oval, because i was lazy to do it :D )
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/13691/2000632963954575051_rs.jpg

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/15986/2000607192575465715_rs.jpg

b
http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/15398/2003613230023852986_rs.jpg

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/15331/2003652500075922107_rs.jpg

c
http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/14434/2002354760214780114_rs.jpg

http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/15769/2003955755121988965_rs.jpg


yeah i hate those high walls like at Schalke (3,5m) or big ditch like at Alvalade
at AOL the wall is ~1,88m high
new GS stadium ist about 1,3m
and Allinaz its 1m i think

skaP187
May 11th, 2007, 12:15 PM
It looks like the stadium of Schalke 04 (a little bit)

www.sercan.de
May 11th, 2007, 12:18 PM
yes
they said last year
that there will be elements of Amsterdam Arena, Borussia Park, Veltins Arena and i think a stadium in korea

but the first tier is like Allinaz
from tv you will not see "wholes" in the corners

www.sercan.de
May 21st, 2007, 03:22 PM
09 May 2007
Galatasaray SK Stadium

Galatasaray Sports Club's new soccer stadium will be conveniently located at Seyrantepe a few kilometres north of downtown Istanbul. It will have a capacity of 52.500 seats. The stadium features a retractable roof – the first of its kind in Turkey.
Galatasaray fans all over the world took great interest when the design was presented to the public on Wednesday 09 May.

The design team headed by 'asp' Architekten Stuttgart combines the engineering expertise of the renowned firms of Obermeyer Planen+Beraten (Munich), Schlaich – Bergermann and Partner (Stuttgart) and Yüksel Proje (Ankara).


http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/aktuell/38/4_News_07-05-09_Detail2b.jpg

http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/data/aktuell/38/2_News_07-05-09_Detail1.jpg

http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/index2.php?lan=en&n=1&s=1&d=&id=38&type=&site=http%3A//www.asp-stuttgart.de/asp_content.php%3Flan%3Dde%26n%3D1%26s%3D1%26id%3D38%26lan%3Den%26noref%3D1%26time%3D1179753574

michał_
May 22nd, 2007, 06:53 PM
Great thanks for the cost information Sercan.
Here's something for you, guess you've seen them already, but I haven't noticed any render that big here.
Maybe it's time for yu to start a new Galata-specific thread? :)6 images of the Seyrantepe Stadi (http://stadiony.net/project.php?p=114)

www.sercan.de
May 22nd, 2007, 08:10 PM
michallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


were the fuck do you have thos pics :D

i loooove you sooooooo much :D

Genç
May 22nd, 2007, 08:35 PM
Great thanks for the cost information Sercan.
Here's something for you, guess you've seen them already, but I haven't noticed any render that big here.
Maybe it's time for yu to start a new Galata-specific thread? :)6 images of the Seyrantepe Stadi (http://stadiony.net/project.php?p=114)

Wow, what a great find! Gorgeous renders.

Sercan, he's right...this baby needs it's own thread...

*hint hint*

:cheers:

www.sercan.de
May 22nd, 2007, 08:39 PM
sorry, but i will open the thread when conctruction will start

i am still afraid that it won't be built

but i am curios where dou you find those pics?

dou you hvae bigger ones :D

Genç
May 22nd, 2007, 08:48 PM
^ Haha fair enough. :D

michał_
May 23rd, 2007, 01:25 AM
Haha, great to see I made someone smile :banana:
Where did I find them- let's make it my secret. No, really- the architects are great people :) nothing bigger though.

As for the thread- don't keep people waiting too long c'mon. This thread is already unofficially the Turkish one (ain't nothing bad in it, keep it up!) so why not...

www.sercan.de
May 23rd, 2007, 11:12 AM
Haha, great to see I made someone smile :banana:
Where did I find them- let's make it my secret. No, really- the architects are great people :) nothing bigger though.

As for the thread- don't keep people waiting too long c'mon. This thread is already unofficially the Turkish one (ain't nothing bad in it, keep it up!) so why not...

haaaaa
so you received them form asp?
i mailed them so often
but never get an ansver
do you have bigger one?
haaaa

Okan
May 26th, 2007, 12:20 AM
Istanbul,Turkey

New Stadium of Galatasaray (capacity 52.500)

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1700/seyrantepestadi02so3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7598/seyrantepestadi04rh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9079/seyrantepestadi03mk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3339/seyrantepestadi05zf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7743/seyrantepestadi01rw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7665/seyrantepestadi06se6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

www.sercan.de
July 3rd, 2007, 12:27 PM
The cots of the new Galatasaray stadium will be 190 mil € (TOKI chief Bayraktar)
the bid for the stadium conctruction and Mecidiyeköy project will be on 19th july 2007

michał_
July 3rd, 2007, 01:41 PM
I guess it was easy to predict- the 100mln declared at the beginning seemed impossible for a huge world class stadium with retractable roof...

Good to see this thread back :)

www.sercan.de
July 3rd, 2007, 02:03 PM
yeah
Actually therefore TOKi (state house builgind company) was against it 1-2 months ago
"we said GS should make a 100-120 mil euro project. But this one is too expensive."
But it stayed :D

Actually the M.Köy project (old stadium area) is the main project.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/erdem/Istanbul%20-%20My%20Pictures/Erdem_Istanbul_28.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/erdem/Istanbul%20-%20My%20Pictures/Erdem_Istanbul_29.jpg


the stadium will be demolished and a congress center, hotel tower, 10 underground storey car park, etc is proposed to be planned

The companies are just preparing there bids
So, the company with the best M.Köy project (max. profit of the M.Köy project) will win the bid
But they have to build first the stadium than, 600 days later, than can start the conctruction of the new M.köy complex. 25% of the M.köy money will go to TOKI. The rest to the company.

The conctruction of the stadium is planned to be finished in max. 720 days.
But maybe it can be finished also in 18 months

bumdingo
July 3rd, 2007, 02:38 PM
Being Turkey will there be a postage stamp size swimming pool on the roof?

www.sercan.de
July 3rd, 2007, 03:04 PM
:D
no, it won't have "crazy" facilities

bumdingo
July 3rd, 2007, 03:49 PM
The new Gala stadium seems to have dragged on for ages. Why, discounting the Ataturk and Fener's stadium are there no other modern football arena's in such a football crazy city. You have the fantastic indoor arena yet both Gala and Bestiktas are lagging in facilities

www.sercan.de
July 3rd, 2007, 04:04 PM
fantastic indoor?
There is only Abdi Ipekci
The rest is u/c or proposed

money, money, money
that was and is still the biggest proble

Olmypic stadium cost only 135 mil $-US. IMO you can see that. Quiete cheap looking
FB stadium was built by sponsors (stands behind the goals) or the club

Turkey in genral sucked in sport venues
But things are changing

Istanbul
-Atatütk Olympic 75.486 (possible expansion to 94.000 for Olympics Istanbul)
-FB stadium (52.530 or 50.509 :D ) built
-New GS stadium (+52.500) approved
-New BJK stadium (36.000) proposed, IMO to small for BJK

-Sinan Erdem Dome (22.500) looks like this never ending story will be finished in 2008. Conctruction started in 1993!!
-Abdi Ipekci Arena (10.550) built
-New Ülker/FB stadium (12.000) proposed, but will be built 100%
-new Basketball Arena (15.000-20.000) proposed. IMO we do not need. Or We should turn Sinan Erdem into an inddor swimm hall
-Burhan Felek Arena expansion for Voleyball WC
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=449054


-34 new Tennis courts. Biggest one will have a capacity of 10.000 and a retraceable roof

www.sercan.de
July 20th, 2007, 03:13 PM
4 of 5 firms accept the asp satdium design for the new GS stadium

Eren Talu and HOK Sports have designed an own one
http://www.ntv.com.tr/news/269771.jpg

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/22166/2000379884591849076_rs.jpg

www.sercan.de
July 21st, 2007, 01:14 AM
bigger ones :D
http://www.galatasaraymedia.com/ASY/erentaluhok1.jpg
http://www.galatasaraymedia.com/ASY/erentaluhok2.jpg

Aslantepe
July 21st, 2007, 04:03 PM
which will be built in future?Asp or Hok design?Hok design is better i think.Why they don´t built HOK.It has more organic design.The roof design is better with two big elegant curves.It looks like the emirate stadion of Arsenal but with much better roof.I also like the GS LOGO infront of the stadium which will used as stairs to go up to the stadium.Very intelligent design.

The ASP design is not bad.But it is more classic.The HOK desgin is between classic and ultraorganic.
The most ultraorganic design i have seen is the new stadium of VALENCIA and the olympic stadion of Bejing which looks like a big bird arche.

Aslantepe
July 21st, 2007, 04:13 PM
yeah
Actually therefore TOKi (state house builgind company) was against it 1-2 months ago
"we said GS should make a 100-120 mil euro project. But this one is too expensive."
But it stayed :D

Actually the M.Köy project (old stadium area) is the main project.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/erdem/Istanbul%20-%20My%20Pictures/Erdem_Istanbul_28.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/erdem/Istanbul%20-%20My%20Pictures/Erdem_Istanbul_29.jpg


the stadium will be demolished and a congress center, hotel tower, 10 underground storey car park, etc is proposed to be planned

The companies are just preparing there bids
So, the company with the best M.Köy project (max. profit of the M.Köy project) will win the bid
But they have to build first the stadium than, 600 days later, than can start the conctruction of the new M.köy complex. 25% of the M.köy money will go to TOKI. The rest to the company.

The conctruction of the stadium is planned to be finished in max. 720 days.
But maybe it can be finished also in 18 months


I am so happy that Galatasaray will change the stadium place because Mecidiyeköy is a very dense URBAN AREA.Around stadium it is very tight and the stadium is surrounded by many buildings.No free Area.You cant built there a bigger one.Almost all modern stadiums In Europe are outside of URBAN AREA.I am also happy for Trabzonspor.I ve watched in TV and Erdogan says that Trabzonspor will built a new sport complex like Kayseri on the Black Sea coast instead of the city center.

www.sercan.de
July 22nd, 2007, 12:05 AM
IMO ASP is better
Especially in terms of fan/atmosphere
Look th the stands behind the goal and it looks like this one will have also like da Luz and Emirates a Business Tier.

Aslantepe
July 22nd, 2007, 02:33 AM
But the outside design of HOK is definately better than ASP design.I cannot compare the interiour design of the two stadions.Arent there pics of the interiour design of HOK stadium.Please post here if you will find some :)

www.sercan.de
July 22nd, 2007, 11:49 AM
No, but it looks like City of Man or wembley

You can easly add those glass/steel elements to the asp design. Just a matter of money :D

skaP187
July 22nd, 2007, 12:14 PM
I realy would prefer a stadium were the second tire is bigger then the first, so not like Schalke but more like Hamburg, it gives a stadium more power my opinion...
Outside designs I realy like.

Aslantepe
July 22nd, 2007, 05:48 PM
No, but it looks like City of Man or wembley

You can easly add those glass/steel elements to the asp design. Just a matter of money :D

No i want HOK.GO HOK.The Design is fantastic also the full glass roof.For me
the Design is the most important.Also i like the GS LOGO.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5612/erentaluhok2wm5kd0.jpg

lpioe
July 22nd, 2007, 08:31 PM
^^
I really like this design too. The logo is cool, never seen such a thing before.
From the outside it's quite similar to existing stadiums like Emirates, Da Luz or Wembley though.

www.sercan.de
July 22nd, 2007, 10:04 PM
But you can't exüand the HOK stadium

We haven't a interior pic, but it looks like, that North, West and East stand have got 3 tiers and the South stand 1 big.
The 3rd tier of the West and East is like Da luz...its "oval"

You can change the roof of the asp design. A logo is possible for the asp design

GO ASP GO :D

Genç
July 22nd, 2007, 10:12 PM
You can change the roof of the asp design. A logo is possible for the asp design


True, but do you think ASP will back such changes to the design?

www.sercan.de
July 22nd, 2007, 10:19 PM
Why not :D
They have to do if GS etc wants it :D

lpioe
July 22nd, 2007, 10:22 PM
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9079/seyrantepestadi03mk9.jpg

Is this ASP design?

www.sercan.de
July 22nd, 2007, 10:26 PM
Yes it is.
Ok,the outside isn't perfect, but you can easly add there glass/stelle elements
I would prefer the steel elements of the new main stand exterior of the Bernabeu stadium



HOK Sports
http://www.galatasaraymedia.com/ASY/erentaluhok2.jpg

http://www.galatasaraymedia.com/ASY/erentaluhok1.jpg


ASP
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1700/seyrantepestadi02so3.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7598/seyrantepestadi04rh0.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9079/seyrantepestadi03mk9.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3339/seyrantepestadi05zf7.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7743/seyrantepestadi01rw2.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7665/seyrantepestadi06se6.jpg

www.sercan.de
July 22nd, 2007, 10:28 PM
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Aslantepe
July 22nd, 2007, 10:42 PM
But you can't exüand the HOK stadium

We haven't a interior pic, but it looks like, that North, West and East stand have got 3 tiers and the South stand 1 big.
The 3rd tier of the West and East is like Da luz...its "oval"

You can change the roof of the asp design. A logo is possible for the asp design

GO ASP GO :D

Change Change Change Adding Adding you are talking always same.Yeah maybe you are right but they would do it after 20 years not right after the stadium is built.The outside design of ASP is very cheap and old.No glass and organic elements.The only thing which is good of ASP is the interiour design.
Also the roof is better than AufSchalke\Veltinsarena.But i like HOK very much.
I think sercan is the only who likes ASP :D


HOK looks better than Emirates Stadium or Luz.Also the roof is closeable.

www.sercan.de
July 22nd, 2007, 10:51 PM
Can you expand the HOKone? No, so why building a stadium where you have to have the same capacity for the coming 100 years?
20 years? You can add those elements immediately

No, GS board favours also the ASP design :D

Aslantepe
July 23rd, 2007, 12:13 AM
Ok when they will add glass elements to the outside of asp????increase the capacity of the stadium????building a better roof of glass?????adding a GS Logo infront of the stadium???When????

I wish they would built a FULL ORGANIC STADIUM like the one from Valencia but this is illusion

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6769/copyofimg4028np3.jpg

www.sercan.de
July 23rd, 2007, 12:19 AM
Nobody said that they will built the asp 1:1
You can change so many things
A 3rd ter was added to nou camp, bernabeu, san siro etc 50 years later
Look at Old trafford.

New stadiums of Liverpool and Everton are planned to be expaned later if necessary

michał_
July 23rd, 2007, 01:38 AM
No, but it looks like City of Man or wembley

You can easly add those glass/steel elements to the asp design. Just a matter of money :D

There is also the question WHAT FOR?! It would destroy the ASP design. In my opinion the only good thing about the HOK design is the passageway shaped in GS crest. Useful and impressive. On the other hand... stepping on one's crest is seen as dishonor, at least where I come from ;)

www.sercan.de
July 23rd, 2007, 02:44 PM
Its just because it looks "cheaper" than HOK :D

IMO the GS logo think is more kitsch

Aslantepe
July 23rd, 2007, 04:17 PM
Ok when it is full clear which stadium will built ????Asp or Hok????

www.sercan.de
July 23rd, 2007, 04:24 PM
AS i said it depends on if Eren Talu will win the bid or not

Aslantepe
July 23rd, 2007, 05:45 PM
Sorry i am noob.And what will happen if Eren Talu wins the bid?????Will hok win?????

www.sercan.de
July 23rd, 2007, 06:01 PM
Yeah, but GS board has to accept the HOK project.
Therefore TOKI, GSGSM and GS are studing this project.
Maybe it more expensive?
Rumours say that the GS board prefer the asp design :cheers:

GNU
July 23rd, 2007, 07:52 PM
The HOk design looks a bit more sophisticated on the exterior imo.
I guess that is because of the glass facade.
Allthough the roof of the ASP design looks better.

michał_
July 23rd, 2007, 07:55 PM
Rumors tend to become reality, I'll drink to that Sercan :cheers:

The GS logo is kitsch and isn't- it is a nice feature and it has it's uses (not ergonomic too much, but it's fresh anyway). The only thing is... it fits to the HOK design as much as it would fit to any other design in the world. Or actually not, I think it would look better with the ASP concept :P

After all painted concrete is far more relevant in a stadium less organic (bueh, hate this word, abused all the time, making many "organic" buildings shit). So ASP should get it :).
Plus- is there anything else in the HOK design that would proove NEW? The arches? seen 'em way too often lately (Athens, Lisbon and Wembley were nice, but Winnipeg- also done by HOK- and thisone- it's ridiculous). The fasade- please, there's nothing in it. So let's combine a few of the recent trends together and voila- a new stadium. Well, eat this you Americans! :) Hope the GS board agrees with my pinion, or else I will impose it on them :)

After years of reading about changing conbcepts I thought it finally came to an end and Galata will have a great stadium, while HOK decided to mess around a bit.

Genç
July 23rd, 2007, 08:22 PM
How can one increase the capacity of the ASP design though? There aren't many 'gaps' which can be filled in or anything like that.

Aslantepe
July 23rd, 2007, 08:43 PM
Yeah, but GS board has to accept the HOK project.
Therefore TOKI, GSGSM and GS are studing this project.
Maybe it more expensive?
Rumours say that the GS board prefer the asp design :cheers:


i think HOK is a little bit more expansive to built then ASP.Ok i think the roof of HOK is cheaper to built then ASP because it consists full of glass and is very light.But the glass facade and the big two curves are more expansive so at all ASP is little bit cheaper to built.To which capacity it is possible to increase the asp?????Maybe from 52.500 to 60.000??????65.000?????

www.sercan.de
July 24th, 2007, 01:29 PM
You can easly add a 3rd tier to the ASP design. With another suit section between the 2nd and 3rd tier you can reach the 80.000 mark.
Please don't get me wrong. I do not say that GS should built a 80.000 seater.
I just want the option that the stadium is possible to expand, like Nou Camp, San Siro, Old Trafford and S. Bernabeu was.

Thanks michał_ :cheers:
I do not like the GS Logo in the HOK design, bceause the "T" part actually destroys it and under it there is nothing. So this will turn to a piss/garbage area.

For years the fans wants a "FAN" mark.
So a fan donates and therefore his name is written on a wall or something else.
This would combine the fans with the new stadium and it would bring some money for the club.

Tausend-Freunde-Mauer at Schalke
http://www.hentscholin.de/arena/Are151201-1.jpg

Fan Raute at Borussia Park
http://www.borussia-fotos.de/images/de/fan-raute.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1700/seyrantepestadi02so3.jpg

There is a big square betwenn the stadium and the highway.
You can just use "light red and light yellow" stones and create the GS logo.
And you can also add names of the fans which donate

http://www.haeusler.co.at/images/showroom/sandstein/showroom_sandstein_3.jpg

http://www.haeusler.co.at/images/showroom/sandstein/showroom_sandstein_9.jpg

Mabye burnished one would be better.


Today there was an article and it said that it will have 189 boxes.
150 private boxes (average. 125.000 $-US)
39 sponsor boxes

Aslantepe
July 24th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Ok sercan i am for ASP now.You have right.The outdoor square and steps are definately better and greater than HOK.Fans have more space.And also it is good that Galatasaray have the possibility in later times to increase the capacity to 80.000 people.WOOOOW.Maybe they will add also glass elements to the outside design of the stadium like the one of NOU CAMP

For example===>

New added glass facades of Nou Camp in Barcelona

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/CampNouExterior.JPG/800px-CampNouExterior.JPG

www.sercan.de
July 24th, 2007, 06:44 PM
Welcome welcome :D
Thats what i wanted to say
Adding glass (nou camp) or steel (Bernabeu) isn't a big think.
But adding a 3rd tier on a oval tier is a very big problem.

Aslantepe
July 24th, 2007, 08:24 PM
GS board is definately for ASP

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1700/seyrantepestadi02so3.jpg

patroeski
July 25th, 2007, 12:52 AM
Option 1 is my favorite for Aachen.

For Galatasaray I would definitely choose the ASP-design. I love the sober aprouch. The atmosphere of the interior looks very nice. And the closed roof is an advantage as well. I just love it

www.sercan.de
July 26th, 2007, 01:05 PM
AGain HOK proposal

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1790/ef88abe7527e794999773c0jj5.jpg

Aslantepe
July 26th, 2007, 11:45 PM
it is possible to close and open the roof of HOK???????

Genç
July 27th, 2007, 12:03 AM
I'm pretty sure it is. Part of the brief was to ensure that any proposal had certain features (52k capacicty, retractable roof, etc.) so I think the HOK design has one.

www.sercan.de
July 27th, 2007, 12:40 AM
yes it is. But they use a different system. BTW, accoring to the turkish news the HOK roof would be the lightest stadium roof

Aslantepe
July 27th, 2007, 02:12 AM
i think HOK has the lightest stadium roof of the whole world in this capacity.
It has also the lightest stadium roof which can be opened and closed.

And the perfect on the HOK design is that the roof is light,very slim,full of glass and it has no steel elements above and under the roof.Only two big curves which are very ELEGANT.

Man i also like HOK very much :D

It is a very hard decison between HOK and ASP.But i want share the pro and contras of HOK and ASP.

____________________________________________________________________________________

HOK (Pro)

-Better elegant and modern design
-more organic and better materials like glass.
-perfect and very light roof which can be closed and opened
-also intelligent design "GS Logo"

HOK (Contra)

-can´t increase the capacity of the stadium.
-interiour design (it influence the stadium and fan atmosphere negative).But we really dont know how the interiour is.So this point is suspicious.
-outdoor fan square isn´t as much as organized as ASP design

____________________________________________________________________________________


ASP (Pro)

-Better outdoor fan square.It is much better planned than HOK
-you can increase the capacity
-better interiour (perfect stadium and fan atmosphere)

ASP (Contra)

-the design is more classic except the roof
-bad outside design
-bad materials no glass
-the roof is not as perfect and light as the roof of HOK.

Aslantepe
July 31st, 2007, 10:39 AM
I think also Galatasaray´s new stadium will host about 35.000-40.000 fans in average per year.Maybe higher.I don´t understand because Istanbul has 15 million inhabitants.And the Galatasaray football club has over 25 million fans world wide.Normally such a club deserves a stadium of minimum 80.000 fan capacity.Even higher.I would like a stadium with 90.000-100.000 fan capacity for Galatasaray.Even Barcelona has a stadium with 97.000 fan capacity.Barcelona has about 2 million inhabitants.

www.sercan.de
July 31st, 2007, 11:41 AM
Galatasaray Sports Club ;)
Therefore i was for the asp project.
Build this 52.500 stadium. Maybe 50 years later you can add a 3rd tier like Real, Barca or San Siro

Aslantepe
July 31st, 2007, 12:44 PM
why it is impossible to increase the capacity of HOK.Because the construction is so built that it is impossible to increase it.You must destroy the whole stadion then.Why isnt there a third design project which connect the advantages of HOK and ASP :ohno:

www.sercan.de
July 31st, 2007, 12:51 PM
Because HOK has got a oval last tier
Actually it was planned to use only the asp for the bid
But it became to expensive, so TOKi decided that every firm can make his own project

www.sercan.de
August 1st, 2007, 02:39 PM
bad throwback for the new GS stadium
TOKI canceled the bid for the old stadium area/project and with that the new stadium
TOKi did not liked the offer of the 5 firms :(

Genç
August 1st, 2007, 08:42 PM
Was there also an issue to do with 'competition' from the opposing contractors? I read that there was a 'lack of interest'...personally I think it's just any excuse not to go along with it - I don't trust TOKI - they don't have their 'heart' in the idea. :D

www.sercan.de
August 1st, 2007, 10:24 PM
TOKi's aim is to get more money
So what shoudl happen
TOKI will get the usespermission for the area -> guarantee, security for the firm -> more firms will bid -> better offer to the TOKI -> more money :D

www.sercan.de
September 6th, 2007, 11:08 AM
New pics of the Galatasaray stadium
roof has been changed a little bit
http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/25511/2000466030258013689_rs.jpg

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/25116/2000429642851509156_rs.jpg

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/26740/2000494480555832288_rs.jpg

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/24712/2000478109070926082_rs.jpg

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/24712/2000430811878544209_rs.jpg

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/24846/2000449561752630737_rs.jpg

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/24846/2000439560963079123_rs.jpg

http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/25765/2000441385876234269_rs.jpg

http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/25603/2000475825085091103_rs.jpg

Wezza
September 6th, 2007, 11:29 AM
How many seats is the new Galatasaray Stadium?

www.sercan.de
September 6th, 2007, 11:32 AM
52.500
But i do not know with or without the seats of the 150-180 suits

GNU
September 6th, 2007, 04:10 PM
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/25603/2000475825085091103_rs.jpg

So theyre going for the ASP design?

www.sercan.de
September 6th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Yeah, The bid was canceled because of 2 projects. GS board wanted the asp design

This or next week the winner of the bid will be announced

DU999
September 26th, 2007, 07:10 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/tr/thumb/2/20/Galatasaray_Spor_Kul%C3%BCb%C3%BC_Futbol_Tak%C4%B1m%C4%B1_logo.PNG/100px-Galatasaray_Spor_Kul%C3%BCb%C3%BC_Futbol_Tak%C4%B1m%C4%B1_logo.PNG
Galatasaray SK

17x Champion (record):
1962, 1963, 1969, 1971, 1972,
1973, 1987, 1988, 1993, 1994,
1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002,
2006, 2008

14x Cup Winner (record):
1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1973,
1976, 1982, 1985, 1991, 1993,
1996, 1999, 2000, 2005

1x UEFA Cup:
2000

1x UEFA Super Cup:
2000




Eren Talu –Alke won the “Seyrantepe tender”

Eren Talu, who submitted the highest bid, won the “Seyrantepe tender” which includes the construction of a sports complex with 52.000 spectator capacity on Seyrantepe premises, in return for building Urban Social Infrastructure Areas on 34.640,43 sq meters of land on which Ali Sami Yen Stadium is located.
After the bid envelopes that were submitted on August 27 were opened, Eren Talu who offered to pay the highest share to TOKİ (Housing Development Administration of Turkey) with 234 million 567 thousand and 890 new Turkish Liras (YTL) on the second session held on August 31, had envisaged the total income to be obtained as 777 million 777 thousand and 777 new Turkish Liras (YTL).

In the evaluation he made about the results, Eren Talu pointed out that they had come to the end of a very long and difficult road, but this was the beginning of a new and more important process. Talu expressed that in order to increase the income TOKİ will obtain, they had made negotiations after the last bids were submitted, while taking into consideration the benefits of both TOKİ, Galatasaray, themselves and “public interest”. Eren Talu, who reminded that Galatasaray Sports Club President Özhan Canaydın had also been in a positive effort throughout every stage of the process, noted that as a graduate from Galatasaray High School and a member of Galatasaray Club, he wanted the club to benefit from this transaction.

Seyrantepe will be completed within 720 days
There is a period of 720 days for the construction of the stadium that will be built on Seyrantepe premises and will be handed over to Galatasaray Sports Club by Youth and Sports Directorate for 49 years. 120 days before this period expires, construction of the new project on Ali Sami Yen Stadium (Mecidiyeköy) site can be started. Talu stated,” I gave a promise to Özhan Canaydın, stadium will be completed in time for the 2009-2010 season.”

According to the tender result, contract between TOKİ and Eren Talu is expected to be signed in 15 days.


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9409/68233855jz9.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3663/11jb3.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6997/12oe4.jpg

Quintana
September 26th, 2007, 07:19 PM
Very Amsterdam Arena like. Hopefully for Galatasaray it will be a lot better though.

ĜlandDK
September 26th, 2007, 08:51 PM
any exterior renderings?

edit...din't show it the first time I went to the thread :)
It indeed looks a bit like the Amsterdam Arena...

Kuvvaci
September 27th, 2007, 04:16 PM
more like Emirates imo

www.sercan.de
September 27th, 2007, 04:31 PM
any exterior renderings?

edit...din't show it the first time I went to the thread :)
It indeed looks a bit like the Amsterdam Arena...

http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/25603/2000475825085091103_rs.jpg

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/25116/2000429642851509156_rs.jpg

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/24712/2000430811878544209_rs.jpg


http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/25765/2000441385876234269_rs.jpg

old roof
http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/24846/2000449561752630737_rs.jpg

michał_
September 27th, 2007, 04:31 PM
Did anyone notice that the primary trusses of the roof are located above the roof surface on the exterior image and below the surface on the interior image? Is it a mistake in the rendering or any changes in the concept?

www.sercan.de
September 27th, 2007, 04:34 PM
Yeah, the interior pic is the older one with the old roof design

GNU
September 27th, 2007, 04:39 PM
Finally this thread has been opened. :)

www.sercan.de
September 27th, 2007, 04:46 PM
But IMO it is still to early :D

End of October or November they plan to start

In the next weeks the winning group has to give the first 16 Mil. $-US to TOKI and TOKI and the group has to signature the agreement
Than we will see the bulldozers

But this is still the highest step of all old projects

Kuvvaci
September 28th, 2007, 02:47 PM
I guess it will start in november.

uA_TAGA
September 30th, 2007, 11:26 PM
hope ... but we have to wait max 720 days :)

Kuvvaci
October 1st, 2007, 10:59 AM
yes constructor promised to finish it in 720 days.

Kuvvaci
October 1st, 2007, 11:46 AM
http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/29344/2005186572069340481_rs.jpg

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/30159/2005142834059630548_rs.jpg

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/29324/2005161641325798792_rs.jpg

makoz
October 20th, 2007, 01:11 PM
But IMO it is still to early :D

End of October or November they plan to start

In the next weeks the winning group has to give the first 16 Mil. $-US to TOKI and TOKI and the group has to signature the agreement
Than we will see the bulldozers

But this is still the highest step of all old projects

So the Signature was made yesterday. In November the project will start! :banana:

SkyLerm
October 20th, 2007, 02:24 PM
Wow nice improvement for Galatasaray, i like it a lot!

R@ptor
October 20th, 2007, 11:43 PM
Where exactly in Istanbul will it be located?

www.sercan.de
October 21st, 2007, 11:11 AM
Yes, yesterday the contract has beend signed
@ Raptor
http://img30.echo.cx/img30/134/sat59df.jpg

zoom
http://img116.echo.cx/img116/3715/big9if.jpg

zoom
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/26491/2001361072862269684_rs.jpg

skaP187
October 22nd, 2007, 12:14 AM
Felicidades Sercan!
Go get Fenerbace!

One thing I do hope, that Besiktas will never move from where they are now.
Best location and very nice stadium.

www.sercan.de
October 22nd, 2007, 04:36 PM
Yes thanks :D
BJK plans to built a new 36,000 stadium at the same site
But i am sure that chamber of architects and memorial comitee will be against it
1) new building next to the bosphorus!!
2) current stadium is "protected"...example for 1940s architecture etc.

skaP187
October 22nd, 2007, 06:50 PM
Yes thanks :D
BJK plans to built a new 36,000 stadium at the same site
But i am sure that chamber of architects and memorial comitee will be against it
1) new building next to the bosphorus!!
2) current stadium is "protected"...example for 1940s architecture etc.

But I guess extending would be a possibillety, as they allready did this a ´short´ while a go.

www.sercan.de
October 22nd, 2007, 06:55 PM
But that was the max. allowed expansion.
I do not think they that they will get the permission for a brand new stadium for that area

skaP187
October 22nd, 2007, 07:01 PM
I would not like a new stadium. I think it is very nice the way it is.
Expanding is not an option? when I was there only one side behind the goal was pretty high, but the long sides where pretty small. I would not like them to extend on the ´bosporus side´that would take the nice view away. You know when the game is boring atleast you can enjoy the view...
The long side which is laid out not along the road would be possible to expend pretty easy.
Or is it impossible because they won´t get the licenses?

Durbsboi
October 24th, 2007, 11:08 AM
What happen to Atuturk?

www.sercan.de
October 24th, 2007, 12:19 PM
Nothing :D
If Istanbul will get Olympics 20xx
Than i am sure that they will expand the current one
If Istanbul will get the Oympics 2xxxx than they will built a new one
Maybe than it will be the national stadium

Mo Rush
October 24th, 2007, 06:35 PM
great renders..not exactly a unique design..but its a great venue

arzaranh
October 24th, 2007, 06:51 PM
^^ i agree. how many cities do we have to see this one in?

skaP187
October 25th, 2007, 01:17 AM
^^ i agree. how many cities do we have to see this one in?

I saw one there is one in Chili coming up also:ohno:

www.sercan.de
October 25th, 2007, 11:09 AM
I do not think that it looks like Veltins or the new one in Chile
Its more like Amsterdam Arena, because Amsterdam Arena Advisory was also involved in thi project.
But the interior is IMO different.

skaP187
October 25th, 2007, 09:09 PM
The interior is more like Veltsin, the outside is more like the Amsterdam Arena.

Who do you think we advising Veltsin Arena? The field was adviced by good old Karel Aalbers from Vitesse Arnhem/ Gelredome and also they got guite alot of advice from the Amsterdam Arena.

cianobuckley
October 26th, 2007, 12:58 PM
so will the national team be using this ground now since its bigger then Fenerbaches? Or will they use the ataturk? in my opinion they should rotate it depending on the game

www.sercan.de
October 26th, 2007, 01:22 PM
Actually Turkey never had a "national team" stadium

As long as the Atatürk stadium stays shitty, they will rotate
But I am sure that they will use in major this stadium and and against smaller temas the new one in Kayseri

Truva
October 27th, 2007, 01:57 PM
Yes they will use New Ali Sami Yen Stadium and the stadium of Kayserispor for national matches.An what is with Sükrü Saracoglu????

Truva
October 27th, 2007, 02:01 PM
But they will never play international matches in old Ali Sami Yen anymore.I think the Greece-Turkey match was the last international match in old ali sami yen.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/1/14/Erdem_Istanbul_28.jpg

The old Ali Sami Yen stadium was built in 1945 but completed in 1965.In the early 90s it was renovated and in 2006 they have destroyed the old open-air fan curve and built a higher one with greater capacity.This stadium has an over 60 years old history.

www.sercan.de
October 28th, 2007, 12:31 AM
They will also use the other stadiums in Turkey, but i am sure that the new GS stadium will be used more

il fenomeno
October 28th, 2007, 02:42 PM
cool stadium. keep up the good work!

www.sercan.de
October 28th, 2007, 02:46 PM
Which work? :D
Construction didn't started yet

Truva
October 28th, 2007, 03:01 PM
Which work? :D
Construction didn't started yet

when will construction start??Novembre????

www.sercan.de
October 28th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Last information was November.
GS president has to be fit again after big operation

Truva
October 28th, 2007, 03:21 PM
They will also use the other stadiums in Turkey, but i am sure that the new GS stadium will be used more


The stadium in izmir is also not bad.

www.sercan.de
October 28th, 2007, 03:23 PM
For turkish standards maybe

Truva
October 28th, 2007, 03:25 PM
It has a capacity of 63.000 people.But it isn´t a real football stadium.

www.sercan.de
October 28th, 2007, 03:29 PM
Actually capacity is 54.960
They should demolish it

Bahnsteig4
October 28th, 2007, 05:56 PM
Very nice, very shiny, but sooo random... Just like any stadium these days.

Genç
November 7th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Very nice, very shiny, but sooo random... Just like any stadium these days.

Surely not! How many stadiums do you know with a transluscent retracting-roof? :)

Bahnsteig4
November 8th, 2007, 12:12 AM
If that's all that sets the stadium apart from others,... then wow.

Genç
November 8th, 2007, 02:01 AM
Well that's stadium design for you. Unless you're the Nou Mestalla, you're just common-crop these days... :D

aucina
November 8th, 2007, 10:40 PM
great stadium:)

uA_TAGA
November 9th, 2007, 11:43 PM
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/25116/2000429642851509156_rs.jpg


good pics for fans to arrive the stadium easier :)

www.sercan.de
November 9th, 2007, 11:51 PM
According to some members in GS forums, the site preparation works have already started :cheers:
In approx. 2-3 weeks there will be a off. start ceremony
BTW, number of suits is still unclear, depends on the restaurant

149 were planned by asp, by the demand was so high, that they decrease some to get 180

On LIG TV a guy (Sansal Büyükaga) said that according to his information the stadium will have 250 suits :lol:
IMO its wrong

Genç
November 10th, 2007, 12:12 AM
250...! That's crazy, but imagine the money GS will gain from a season-long loan. :D

I hope we'll have regular information from the official site when things are up and running too - at the moment it provides no info at all. :ohno:

Genç
November 10th, 2007, 12:18 AM
Also, on the bottom left of the last image posted ^^ what are those long three sections between the stadium and the highway...? It looks like it says 'optional' or something... :D

www.sercan.de
November 10th, 2007, 12:26 AM
As it sayis..optional :D
Still uncleat
Maybe a small mall
Or just restaurant
Or maybe it will be a empty square

Galatasaray TV will show the conctruction site every week and there are rumours that there will be a webcam at the off. page :D

Genç
November 10th, 2007, 12:33 AM
I just realised what it says: 'optional additional building' :D So like you said, probably a small mall or restaurants.

Ah, I wish you could watch GSTV online! :( And I hope that rumour about the webcam is true...that would be awesome.

www.sercan.de
November 29th, 2007, 02:23 PM
http://www.nethaber.com/Nethaber.Statics/Images/news/h/v/hafriyat7776.jpg
Site prep. works.

December 11th or 14th will be the off. start ceremony

Genç
November 29th, 2007, 02:28 PM
So the groundbreaking has finally started! All these years of waiting... :D

Look how close to the TEM the stadium is - won't it be difficult to expand in the future since there's such little room?

www.sercan.de
November 29th, 2007, 02:49 PM
It isn't so close
You can ealsy add a new 3rd tier IMo
Bigegst problem would be the need for more car parkings

Truva
November 29th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Where will GS play till the construction ends??????In Mecidiyeköy???Or will be the old Ali Sami Yen demolish soon????

www.sercan.de
November 29th, 2007, 10:39 PM
Till the new one is built at the current old stadium
The old one will be demolished and a 50 storey residential tower will be built

www.sercan.de
November 30th, 2007, 08:03 PM
http://www.gs1905.org/ftopic-4430-3000.html

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4200/melisa3yaresimlerivetatul5.jpg


http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4800/melisa3yaresimlerivetatue4.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9283/melisa3yaresimlerivetatef3.jpg


http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4969/melisa3yaresimlerivetatja6.jpg

www.sercan.de
November 30th, 2007, 08:31 PM
More pics

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4025/melisa3yaresimlerivetatix1.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9127/melisa3yaresimlerivetatla8.jpg


http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2829/melisa3yaresimlerivetatzc8.jpg


http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5967/melisa3yaresimlerivetatvm0.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9904/melisa3yaresimlerivetatcg5.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6144/melisa3yaresimlerivetatov7.jpg


http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2619/melisa3yaresimlerivetathk4.jpg

krudmonk
December 1st, 2007, 10:08 PM
Is that a U-turn ramp on the freeway?

www.sercan.de
December 2nd, 2007, 11:51 AM
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7185/canadsc03162mv5.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2618/canapicturess272um8.jpg

www.sercan.de
December 2nd, 2007, 11:52 AM
Is that a U-turn ramp on the freeway?

Yes, it is
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6739/watermark2nq1.jpg

www.sercan.de
December 4th, 2007, 02:13 PM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6870/resim002nz3.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6651/aslantepe1rh7.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4955/seyrantepe1905de2.jpg

michał_
December 6th, 2007, 05:52 PM
I've been out for a while and what do I see now?! IT"S ON!!! :)
Congrats and hoping to get a full coverage of this baby's birth :)

www.sercan.de
December 6th, 2007, 06:57 PM
Yeah. looks like a 11 year old never ending story will hae a happy end :D

www.sercan.de
December 7th, 2007, 11:00 AM
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4927/seyrantepeharfiyatresimmd4.jpg

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5205/seyrantepeharfiyatresimmy0.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5985/seyrantepeharfiyatresimxr8.jpg

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3409/seyrantepeharfiyatresimss9.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/851/seyrantepeharfiyatresimmo3.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6788/seyrantepeharfiyatresimbo4.jpg

www.sercan.de
December 7th, 2007, 06:20 PM
Groundbreak is December 13th :cheers:
http://www.galatasaray.org/

Kuvvaci
December 10th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Sercan please post here the photos you sent recently at Turkey forum

www.sercan.de
December 10th, 2007, 01:04 PM
http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/34964/2004302588428740923_rs.jpg

www.sercan.de
December 12th, 2007, 05:20 PM
Tomorrow is groundbreak
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4128/aslantepetemelatmncesi0aj1.jpg

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1566/aslantepetemelatmncesi0an2.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3407/aslantepetemelatmncesi0wy6.jpg

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2249/aslantepetemelatmncesi0vl2.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4105/aslantepetemelatmncesi0bw8.jpg

there will be 3 mast with 3 big flags (1x 36m long Turkey flag and 2x GS flags)
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5664/aslantepetemelatmncesi0he9.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1226/aslantepetemelatmncesi0ol8.jpg

www.sercan.de
December 13th, 2007, 04:31 PM
http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_20.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_21.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_23.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_24.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_30.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_29.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_28.jpg

http://www.galatasaray.org/images/2007/12/13/13122007aslantepe_27.jpg

bigpoint
December 13th, 2007, 09:17 PM
So finally the project started. :cheers:

www.sercan.de
December 13th, 2007, 09:29 PM
Yes :D
Its like a dream
Since 1996 we are waiting for thi moment

www.sercan.de
December 14th, 2007, 01:12 AM
http://www.aslantepe.biz/themes/MissionImpossible/images/logo_h90.jpg

http://www.aslantepe.biz

logo and page made by a fan

SkyLerm
December 14th, 2007, 01:13 AM
^In that logo it is sooo similar to A'dam Arena =)

www.sercan.de
December 14th, 2007, 01:14 AM
It is also similiar in "real" :D

skaP187
December 15th, 2007, 03:32 AM
It is also similiar in "real" :D

I wouldn´t be to happy about that... Most people, also Ajax supporters, are not very happy with the Amsterdam ArenA.

Genç
December 15th, 2007, 03:25 PM
In what way?

bigpoint
December 15th, 2007, 04:14 PM
I wouldn´t be to happy about that... Most people, also Ajax supporters, are not very happy with the Amsterdam ArenA.

Well if they would know the old Ali Sami Yen instead they would be happy I'm sure. :lol:

www.sercan.de
December 15th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Its just looking a bit like the Amsterdam Arena
But IMO interior and roof are diffferent

www.sercan.de
December 22nd, 2007, 01:46 PM
http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/38088/2003959544592621481_rs.jpg

www.sercan.de
December 29th, 2007, 07:44 PM
12.12.2007
http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/38503/2003641096789173410_rs.jpg

29.12.2007
http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/38646/2003620479799407627_rs.jpg

Kuvvaci
December 31st, 2007, 01:08 PM
Sercan, try to reload the last pix

lpioe
December 31st, 2007, 02:51 PM
Nice to see it progress fast after so many years of waiting for the start :okay:

The outside is indeed quite similar to AA, but there are very few new stadium designs that don't resemble an existing one.

www.sercan.de
December 31st, 2007, 02:58 PM
Thats true.
Therefore i always liked the new Liverpool stadium project.
Actually the Amsterdam Arena Advisory group was also involved in the project. Aim was to sank the cost.
Therefore it hasn't got a facade like Allianz, new Valencia, new Bilbao or new Warsaw stadium.
Its pure like the old stadiums. You can see the concrete of the rows/stands

michał_
December 31st, 2007, 03:56 PM
Thats true.
Therefore i always liked the new Liverpool stadium project.
Actually the Amsterdam Arena Advisory group was also involved in the project. Aim was to sank the cost.
Therefore it hasn't got a facade like Allianz, new Valencia, new Bilbao or new Warsaw stadium.
Its pure like the old stadiums. You can see the concrete of the rows/stands

Concrete doesn't really have to be a bad thing. I am hoping for a very impressive outcome of this construction. And I can tell you I surely appreciate the concrete thrusses of the Cologne stadium a lot more, than another shiny and glittering new facade in Auckland, Perth or Valencia (not counting the Polish stadiums here :P).

DingoBingo
December 31st, 2007, 04:43 PM
Awesome stadium. Truly worldclass. btw, who does Atatürk Stadium belong to?

www.sercan.de
December 31st, 2007, 06:20 PM
Lets wait before we can call it "worldclass" :D
Some small clubs are playing at the Olympic stadium. It belongs to the NOC as i know.

It is also better to do not have a facade.
You can walk outside the stadium at upper storeys
http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/24712/2000430811878544209_rs.jpgThe same you have at Frankfurt and da luz stadium

TEKKEN
January 5th, 2008, 02:21 AM
not bad

www.sercan.de
January 9th, 2008, 04:46 PM
Now its getting harder. No more soil. STONESSSS
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1525/09012008003pj2.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1091/09012008007vg5.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3554/09012008008if9.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3785/09012008012bm6.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8200/09012008030za3.jpg

www.sercan.de
January 14th, 2008, 05:05 PM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/791/14092008003ux9.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/685/14092008005ic5.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6376/14092008006bl4.jpg

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9623/14092008007in2.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7756/14092008009pp6.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3966/14092008010av5.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2980/14092008020yu7.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8297/14092008035po8.jpg

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7034/14092008036hb6.jpg

www.sercan.de
January 20th, 2008, 12:35 PM
19.01.2008
http://galeri.aslantepe.biz/d/1041-1/pan4.jpg

http://galeri.aslantepe.biz/d/1038-1/pan3.jpg

http://galeri.aslantepe.biz/d/1032-1/pan1.jpg

www.sercan.de
January 22nd, 2008, 02:50 PM
Red = New Galatasaray stadium
White = Emirates stadium

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4305/asyemiratesep1.jpg


Just to show that the stands are closer than at Emirates, which is bigger in capacity and as a building

lpioe
January 22nd, 2008, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the updates.
They don't seem work quite as fast as in Valencia ;)
When should it be finished?

www.sercan.de
January 22nd, 2008, 08:06 PM
18-24 months.
Actually digging is easier at Valencia. Here you do not have a flat area.
How big is the plot in Valencia?
Here it is 130.000m²

railcity
January 23rd, 2008, 01:45 PM
Where is it located on the city map?

And is this U-turn on the freeway built especially for Fenerbahce-fans to drive by and with ostentation turn around again? ;)

www.sercan.de
January 23rd, 2008, 02:00 PM
Lol, its just for the Metro Station.
You can see it at the right side
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/25116/2000429642851509156_rs.jpg

location in the city
http://img30.echo.cx/img30/134/sat59df.jpg

zoom
http://img116.echo.cx/img116/3715/big9if.jpg

zoom
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/26491/2001361072862269684_rs.jpg

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2008/01/23/spor/resim/axspo01.jpg

railcity
January 23rd, 2008, 02:11 PM
location in the city


Thanks!

Genç
January 23rd, 2008, 08:03 PM
Wow Sercan, how new is that last pic?! It's a superb perspective. :okay:

www.sercan.de
January 24th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Don't know but looks like 1 month old

www.sercan.de
January 27th, 2008, 05:07 PM
First concrete
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/188/aslantepe27012008007rf5.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6897/aslantepe27012008014ki8.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7743/aslantepe27012008023rn3.jpg


Real conctruction will start February 25th

Axelferis
February 6th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Ok!! but gs new stadium is very good too! A final in istanbul again?

www.sercan.de
February 6th, 2008, 04:36 PM
its not like the new ones with facade etc
its more pure, like old stadiums where you can see the concrete of the stands
but i am still happy after 12 years it became true and the stands are very good (not perfect)

I am sure they will bid for an Final, but unfortunatley it can be only UEFA Cup Final or they expand it to over 70,000 :D

michał_
February 6th, 2008, 06:24 PM
its not like the new ones with facade etc
its more pure, like old stadiums where you can see the concrete of the stands
but i am still happy after 12 years it became true and the stands are very good (not perfect)
Actually I will keep on arguing with you that it's better than most other stadiums. The fact it's more pure and concrete and less "organic" makes it only more distinguishable (?) and original.

www.sercan.de
February 6th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Actually now i like it more, because there are too many "wanna-be-Allinaz" stadiums :D
Its different :D

www.sercan.de
February 9th, 2008, 01:17 PM
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9968/panorama3qa0.jpg
the factories in the background will be demolished and new houses will be built.
A new and big medical centre will be also built here
Next to the stadium TASYAPI will start to built a 50 storey residential tower. Facing this tower (metro station) a 52 storey skyscrasper is planned

Kobo
February 9th, 2008, 02:14 PM
To Sercan.de, In your opinion if Turkey were to get a European Championship or maybe even a World Cup, do you think that Istanbul would have 2 stadiums and if so which would be the 2nd choice after the 80,000 seater Atarturk Stadium?

Atatürk Olympic stadium 81,653
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/turkey/marmara/istanbul_ataturk1.jpg

Galatasaray new 52,500 stadium
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/istanbul_yen1.jpg

Fenerbahçe 50,500 stadium
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/turkey/marmara/istanbul_fenerbahce1.jpg

Or maybe Besiktas 32,000 stadium which is more centrally located in Istanbul right by Taksim Square, however are they planning an expansion in this location?
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/turkey/marmara/istanbul_inonu1.jpg

Which one do you think if any at all?

Oh yeah has anybody started a Turkish Stadium thread? If not maybe one should be made.

www.sercan.de
February 9th, 2008, 03:02 PM
IMO new GS stadium and Olympic stadium
Olympic, because you would need a big stadium.
But they have to expand and mondernize the Olympic stadium, or built somewhere else a new one :D

lpioe
February 9th, 2008, 03:28 PM
IMO new GS stadium and Olympic stadium
Olympic, because you would need a big stadium.
But they have to expand and mondernize the Olympic stadium, or built somewhere else a new one :D

Modernize? Wasn't it completed a few years ago?
Is it used often nowadays for concerts etc?

www.sercan.de
February 9th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Actually its only used by some small clubs, because of it should not stay emtpy
Its a completely disaster
Too far away from the city. Nobody likes it. Endzone stands have to get a 2nd tier (too windy)
It has got many faults
French architects have many bad projects in Istanbul :(
Like demolishing old Taksim stadium

Kobo
February 9th, 2008, 03:56 PM
Yeah when I was in Istanbul last year, the Stadium is even further out than Atarturk Airport, which was miles away from where I was in Bebek. The 2 other stadiums I passed were Besiktas ground which is in a great location but I don't see how they can expand. And also the current Galatasaray stadium, which was right next to a motorway and I couldn't understand how people would get there really, are there good transport links to it? And is the new Galatasaray stadium even further out from the bospherus then the present one?

www.sercan.de
February 9th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Lol, its just for the Metro Station.
You can see it at the right side
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/25116/2000429642851509156_rs.jpg

location in the city
http://img30.echo.cx/img30/134/sat59df.jpg

zoom
http://img116.echo.cx/img116/3715/big9if.jpg

zoom
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/26491/2001361072862269684_rs.jpg

TEM = 8 lanes highway (2nd bridge)
Büyükdere Caddesi = 6 lanes avenue
E-5 = 6 lanes highway (1st bridge)

Metro will not stop at Aslantepe
It will "go back" to Yenikapi

www.sercan.de
February 12th, 2008, 04:34 PM
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9409/68233855jz9.jpg

http://www.ultraslan.com/Fotos/07-08/aslantepe_helikopterden-12-02-2008/001.jpg
taken 23.1.2008

more pics
http://www.ultraslan.com -> fotograf galerisi -> Aslantepe’den son görüntüler(left side)

Axelferis
February 15th, 2008, 12:42 AM
the most beautiful retractable arena. better design than amasterdam, Schalke and lille

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2008, 11:54 AM
Wow, thanks a lot, but Lilles one is also great and maybe uniqque, because of the 4 parts.
This one is more the cheap version, but sometimes its good to have a limited budget :D

After so many projects with a covered facade, i like this one more.
Pure football. Concrete.
Lilles' ne is good, but Schalkes one looks more like a Mall.
Allianz Arena is IMO to "softy".

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2008, 01:00 PM
The area will chane a lot. Today there was the first bid for another plot (yellow one).
http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/43157/2000288457089372607_rs.jpg
Looks like the new stadium will be surrounded by skyscrapers :D

Axelferis
February 15th, 2008, 01:09 PM
Yes! It is normal to have so much project surrounding satdiums!

Look at stade de france! 10 years ago a few batiments, now a land of offices!!

www.sercan.de
February 15th, 2008, 01:16 PM
When the idea to move to another place was announced 2004, i was one of the few at the GS forum who supportted it, because the current location is too small for a big stadium.
Everbody said, "it will be like the Olympic stadium. Only stadium and aroudn it nothing). But as we see its not :D
A paralel avenue to the Büyükdere Caddesi (Caddesi = avenue) will be built. so IMO in the next 10-15 years the area "left" of Levent cluster and south if Aslantepe will be turned into a skyscraper district (expansion of Levent cluster).


http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/42095/2002229606299036102_rs.jpg

TEKKEN
February 16th, 2008, 11:27 PM
Actually its only used by some small clubs, because of it should not stay emtpy
Its a completely disaster
Too far away from the city. Nobody likes it. Endzone stands have to get a 2nd tier (too windy)
It has got many faults



The Olympic stadium is a real disaster.Look to the beautiful bird nest of Bejing(unique design,full covered ) and look to the Atatürk Stadium.I dont understand the mentality of the architects.It has the design of stadiums which was built 50 years ago.It is not full covered.Ugly half-roof and the big two elephant legs on the sides.It is not suitable for all weather :ohno:.And it is impossible to redesign it.It should be bombed completly in the air if Istanbul wins the Olympic Games in 2020

trmather
February 17th, 2008, 01:33 AM
IMO new GS stadium and Olympic stadium
Olympic, because you would need a big stadium.
But they have to expand and mondernize the Olympic stadium, or built somewhere else a new one :D

I'd say they'd build a big one in Ankara with it being the capital city, and have Galatasary's new stadium and the Sukru Saracoglu as Istanbuls' stadiums.

joce23
February 17th, 2008, 12:38 PM
The new stadium looks great !:cheers:

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February 17th, 2008, 12:55 PM
I would prefer a 40.000 football stadium in Ankara (with the possibility to expand to 60.000)

A big national stadium (+100.000) would be great for Istanbul.

El Vampiro Ucraniano
February 19th, 2008, 10:42 AM
I always liked retractable roofs, great stadium! Only one question. Does istambul really need a stadium with a retractable roof? I mean it's possibly the hottest place in Europe.

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February 19th, 2008, 10:51 AM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7765/sucz2.jpg
:D
Actually Istanbul isn't so hot.
From wiki
Climate
The city has a Mediterranean climate with hot and humid summers; and cold, rainy and often snowy winters. Humidity is generally rather high which can make temperatures feel much warmer or colder than they actually are. Yearly precipitation for Istanbul averages 640 millimetres (25.2 in).[18] Snowfall is quite common, snowing for a week or two during the winter season, but it can be heavy once it snows. It is most likely to occur between the months of December and March. The summer months between June and September bring average daytime temperatures of 28 °C (82 °F). The warmest month is July with an average temperature of 23.3 °C (74 °F), the coldest is January with 5.6 °C (42 °F). The weather becomes slightly cooler as one moves toward eastern Istanbul. Summer is by far the driest season, although there is no real summer drought such as those occurring at Mediterranean climates or in the arid interior of Turkey. The city is quite windy, having an average wind speed of 17 km/h (11 mph).

So, yes, a retraceable roof is better :D
Actually the anatolian clubs (Sivas, Kayseri, Konya etc.) need also a stadium with a retraceable roof.
Its too cold (-20°C)

Axelferis
February 19th, 2008, 11:30 AM
The Olympic stadium is a real disaster.Look to the beautiful bird nest of Bejing(unique design,full covered ) and look to the Atatürk Stadium.I dont understand the mentality of the architects.It has the design of stadiums which was built 50 years ago.It is not full covered.Ugly half-roof and the big two elephant legs on the sides.It is not suitable for all weather :ohno:.And it is impossible to redesign it.It should be bombed completly in the air if Istanbul wins the Olympic Games in 2020

you are 100% right!!
i noticed this during 2005 CL final!! (great victory of my favourite Reds liverpool :) )

The stadium is giant but this idea to not cover all spectator exasperating me!!!
I prefer far Galatasaray next which is the future best areana stadium!!! :okay:

Istanbul is so weird that i don't understand how today stadiums could be built like that!!! It is far from the city, the wind could be the king a day match... :ohno: It is for me the "anti stadium" of 21st century!

Galatasaray IS the 21st stadium!!! beautiful, multifunctionnal, 100% covered!!

To be honest this how a stadium would be today:

Galatasaray design+Allianz capacity (72000)+ Lille easy multifunctionnal= GREAT GREAT GREAT stadium!!!

This how an architect should think today!!

El Vampiro Ucraniano
February 19th, 2008, 11:37 AM
So, yes, a retraceable roof is better :D
Actually the anatolian clubs (Sivas, Kayseri, Konya etc.) need also a stadium with a retraceable roof.
Its too cold (-20°C)

My mistake, being a Ukrainian i always imagined Turkey as a summer holiday resort, while it is winter at home... :)

www.sercan.de
February 19th, 2008, 11:48 AM
Offtopic, but the current Olympic stadium is a big mistake.
The architects are Michel Macary and Aymeric Zubléna (Stade de France), but there are rumours that they have never visited the city/the site.
Aim was to create a open and fresh stadium.
The Endzone stands (North and South) have got only 1 tier, because its the "bosphorus" and the other 2 big ones are Europe and Asia.

But exact at this area there is a huge north-south wind.


Another fault were the sightlines.
It HAD a capacity of 80.597, but later it was reduced to 75.486, becaue you couldn't see the picth and track to 100%.

Location is also wrong, because the National Olympic Comitee searched for an empty plot, instead of demolishing ugly apartments.

Actually this is the result, if you haven't got money, bu the will to built a stadium.
Aim must be to built a great venue and not only a stadium.

I still hope that it will be destroyed and the new Olympic park will be built in the city as a big sport park.

BTW, some fans calls it as "top of the mountain", "where the wolfs are", "athens Olympic stadium"

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February 19th, 2008, 11:53 AM
My mistake, being a Ukrainian i always imagined Turkey as a summer holiday resort, while it is winter at home... :)

NP :D
Actually there is a quite funny history.
As you maybe know the Galatasaray-Fenerbahçe derby is one of the biggest in the world.
The lowest attendance was....14 :D Because it rained so much and the referee had to play with a umbrella :D

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February 25th, 2008, 05:17 PM
22.02.2008
http://galeri.aslantepe.biz/d/1453-2/2008_02_22.jpg

Kuvvaci
February 25th, 2008, 07:40 PM
sercan why didn't you post this photo to Turkey forum?

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February 25th, 2008, 08:05 PM
cause custodame already posted 3 pics

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February 26th, 2008, 11:02 PM
Seyrantepe stadium construction underway: Ever since the end of last year heavy machinery is running on the construction site for the new Football Stadium for Galatasaray SC.
Its hard not to notice it when passing the site while travelling on the “Trans European Motorway” TEM. Seen from above, however, it looks even more impressive: Ever since the end of last year heavy machinery is running on the construction site for the new Football Stadium at Seyrantepe north of downtown Istanbul.

The dream of millions of Galatasaray supporters worldwide is slowly taking shape. Excavation work is in full progress and the outline of the new stadium is already visible.
The aerial photographs show the situation at the construction site in late January 2008


http://www.asp-stuttgart.de/index2.php?lan=en&n=1&s=1&d=&id=42&type=&site=http%3A//www.asp-stuttgart.de/asp_content.php%3Flan%3Dde%26n%3D1%26s%3D1%26id%3D42%26lan%3Den%26noref%3D1%26time%3D1204059512

costa
February 27th, 2008, 12:47 AM
When will the stadium be finished? previsions?

www.sercan.de
February 27th, 2008, 12:54 AM
18-24 months :D
18-20 months: GS and Conctruction companies aim
ASP: 24 will be needed :D

But there is already a delay of 10 days, because of the snow storm

BTW. some information
1st tier 22 ° (was 20°, but changed later to 22°)
2nd tier: 34°

costa
February 27th, 2008, 01:10 AM
And what will happen to Ali Sami?

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February 27th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Will be demolished and a hotel and residential toer (50 storey) will be built + other small thing (14 floor underground parking etc.) in this complex. Design etc. still not published.