ZZ-II
October 18th, 2008, 08:10 PM
maybe it has some similaritis, but who cares about that??
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View Full Version : CHICAGO | Waldorf=Astoria | 386m | 1265ft | 107 fl | Canceled ZZ-II October 18th, 2008, 08:10 PM maybe it has some similaritis, but who cares about that?? Buyckske Ruben October 19th, 2008, 10:25 AM http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9044/chicagowaincrease1265qc6.gif If the building goiing to be build. Then it will dominate the skyline between the other big brothers of Chicago!!! And will beat "The Trumph" :banana: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Chicago is a amazing futuristic city!!! emagdnim October 19th, 2008, 05:39 PM very nice, another great tower to an already great skyline Eric Offereins October 20th, 2008, 01:59 PM question is will it get built in this market? I hope so. Those renders are gorgeous. :master: harryc October 23rd, 2008, 04:35 AM While snapping pictures last week I struck up a conversation with one of the neighbors of W=A. She was concerned that the pedestrian path would cut through her condo complex, and explained that the units on the plaza level were not designed to have heavy traffic. Although she did say that a luxury hotel might not be that bad I reminded her that even rich people have teenagers. The approach ( the Slip an BVic's boat are behind us) http://lh3.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_Ts1KIilI/AAAAAAAA1OU/A5skCwriuN0/s800/P1090007.JPG What a view - a preserved view corridor. http://lh4.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_SPyflQyI/AAAAAAAA1Ms/tZZYNVs83wo/s800/P1080981.JPG The plaza http://lh3.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_SRRvmg8I/AAAAAAAA1M4/S1quMeSH43Q/s800/P1080985.JPG The site http://lh5.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_SkdKIPII/AAAAAAAA1N0/fAyqFjVBtkQ/s800/2008_10_08d.JPG Low walls http://lh6.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_SU3IPHKI/AAAAAAAA1NQ/oRU2TT7spkI/s800/P1080995.JPG http://lh3.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_SXH9jOyI/AAAAAAAA1Nc/UImOsgfF2NE/s800/P1080996.JPG Looking back at the slip ( spire will rise here ) http://lh4.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_Si35J1uI/AAAAAAAA1No/dib2GItbAeA/s800/P1090002_3_4Enhancer.jpg hellrazor650 October 23rd, 2008, 05:00 AM I am a little confused about how all these new towers are being proposed for Chicago while the CS and the Waterview tower are on hold. in my opinion they should probably wait. exceeding demand is not what the developers are intending to do? anyone have some kind of news that will help me out? hellrazor650 October 23rd, 2008, 05:01 AM i do however really like the design Arist October 23rd, 2008, 07:18 AM This is a hotel, not a residency. hellrazor650 October 23rd, 2008, 07:41 AM This is a hotel, not a residency. wonderful thank you Eric Offereins October 23rd, 2008, 09:21 AM This is a hotel, not a residency. All 100 floors? that is huge. harryc October 23rd, 2008, 01:43 PM This is a hotel, not a residency. The buildings pictured above are condos ( in Chicago this means apartments you own ). The site that has been cleared is for a residental tower. The parking lot is where the W=A tower will go. There will be a pedestrian bridge linking the plaza of the W=A with the existing plaza on Colmbus (Sheraton hotel) with the Odgen boat slip, passing through the virtually private plaza between the existing condos. http://lh5.ggpht.com/harry.r.carmichael/SP_SkdKIPII/AAAAAAAA1N0/fAyqFjVBtkQ/s720/2008_10_08d.JPG Ironically the Odgen slip extended to the middle of the W=A site before the condos were built. Sentient Seas October 23rd, 2008, 09:02 PM Very, very nice design. I think it will fit Chicago appropriately. And quite tall as well. Flubnut October 23rd, 2008, 09:22 PM I am a little confused about how all these new towers are being proposed for Chicago while the CS and the Waterview tower are on hold. in my opinion they should probably wait. exceeding demand is not what the developers are intending to do? anyone have some kind of news that will help me out? This building project was created over a year ago, well before the major real estate/economy bursts. Also, getting something approved is relatively easy. Financing it is obscenely more difficult, even in good times. I would be shocked if this managed to break ground within the year. dachacon February 9th, 2009, 11:08 AM any updates or still a proposal? kingsc February 9th, 2009, 11:27 AM Not a word! Maybe there shouldn't be a Waldorf Astoria outside of New York. But what can you do. With the way things are going, moneys looking a little short. I don't know what going on with this project. In my eyes the boom in Chicago dies with chicago spire. If that can make it so can the rest hopefully. buildmilehightower February 9th, 2009, 11:19 PM I'm not surprised if this gets cancelled (hopefully not) with many other projects in fiasco in the same city, I wont get my hopes up. spyguy February 10th, 2009, 12:16 AM Not a word! Maybe there shouldn't be a Waldorf Astoria outside of New York. There already are Waldorf Astoria's outside of NYC http://www.waldorfastoriacollection.com/ I'm not surprised if this gets cancelled (hopefully not) with many other projects in fiasco in the same city, I wont get my hopes up. The developers took a long term view from the beginning. It may take longer than expected because of the economy but this is still a prime site for condos/hotel. MichiganWolverine February 10th, 2009, 03:37 AM I really hope this tower doesn't go kaput. I think it is my favorite of all the towers U/C or proposed for Chicago. Chicagophotoshop February 10th, 2009, 03:57 AM There already are Waldorf Astoria's outside of NYC http://www.waldorfastoriacollection.com/ pwned lol The developers took a long term view from the beginning. It may take longer than expected because of the economy but this is still a prime site for condos/hotel. true. I dont think this is dead. few years out, but I think it will happen kingsc February 11th, 2009, 01:16 AM deleted kingsc February 11th, 2009, 01:21 AM There already are Waldorf Astoria's outside of NYC http://www.waldorfastoriacollection.com/ The developers took a long term view from the beginning. It may take longer than expected because of the economy but this is still a prime site for condos/hotel. Yeah I know, what makes you think that would change what I said. [QUOTE=Chicagophotoshop;32054922]pwned lol He would only own me. If he would have said Waldorf Astoria wasn't started in NYC, now You've been owned. Plus there is only one Waldorf Astoria seeing the Astor brothers only open one Hotel together. The Hilton aren't the Astor so their Hotel hold no weight bearing its name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldorf_Astoria ASupertall4SD February 13th, 2009, 09:10 PM Yeah I know, what makes you think that would change what I said. [QUOTE=Chicagophotoshop;32054922]pwned lol He would only own me. If he would have said Waldorf Astoria wasn't started in NYC, now You've been owned. Plus there is only one Waldorf Astoria seeing the Astor brothers only open one Hotel together. The Hilton aren't the Astor so their Hotel hold no weight bearing its name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldorf_Astoria Alright guys, Let me put an end to this dispute...I work for Hilton Hotels in Beverly Hills. There are 3 layers to the Waldorf=Astoria... There is THE Waldorf=Astoria, which is in NYC and is of course deservedly famous for being an amazing hotel. Then, there is the Waldorf=Astoria Collection - termed as such for Hilton properties that are one of a kind, and iconic properties. These properties are not named WALDORF=ASTORIA but rather the unique name, and part of the collection. The collection includes the La Quinta Resort and Spa near Palm Springs, CA; the Biltmore in Arizona, the Casa Marina in Key West FL and a bunch of others. From the site - KNOWN FOR ITS CHARACTER, TIMELESS ARCHITECTURE AND AUTHENTIC HISTORY, THE WALDORF ASTORIA COLLECTION IS COMPRISED OF UNIQUE LUXURY HOTELS WHICH POSSESS THEIR OWN DISTINCT PERSONALITY WHILE OFFERING THE AMENITIES AND SERVICES YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY HOTELS IN THE WORLD. THEN, for some god awful reason, Hilton is taking advantage of the Waldorf Astoria brand. In my opinion this goes against the Collection statement of unique one of a kind properties, rendering the collection namesake unfit for the title. Why it isn't rebranded is beyond me. The Waldorf=Astoria Brand, that you see in this proposal, a new one coming to Beverly Hills, and others already made or in the pipeline are apart of this brand. It'd be like the Ritz Carlton, same style and brand standards, but different locales. So yeah, there ya go. kingsc February 14th, 2009, 06:21 AM [QUOTE=kingsc;32103262]Yeah I know, what makes you think that would change what I said. Alright guys, Let me put an end to this dispute...I work for Hilton Hotels in Beverly Hills. There are 3 layers to the Waldorf=Astoria... There is THE Waldorf=Astoria, which is in NYC and is of course deservedly famous for being an amazing hotel. Then, there is the Waldorf=Astoria Collection - termed as such for Hilton properties that are one of a kind, and iconic properties. These properties are not named WALDORF=ASTORIA but rather the unique name, and part of the collection. The collection includes the La Quinta Resort and Spa near Palm Springs, CA; the Biltmore in Arizona, the Casa Marina in Key West FL and a bunch of others. From the site - KNOWN FOR ITS CHARACTER, TIMELESS ARCHITECTURE AND AUTHENTIC HISTORY, THE WALDORF ASTORIA COLLECTION IS COMPRISED OF UNIQUE LUXURY HOTELS WHICH POSSESS THEIR OWN DISTINCT PERSONALITY WHILE OFFERING THE AMENITIES AND SERVICES YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY HOTELS IN THE WORLD. THEN, for some god awful reason, Hilton is taking advantage of the Waldorf Astoria brand. In my opinion this goes against the Collection statement of unique one of a kind properties, rendering the collection namesake unfit for the title. Why it isn't rebranded is beyond me. The Waldorf=Astoria Brand, that you see in this proposal, a new one coming to Beverly Hills, and others already made or in the pipeline are apart of this brand. It'd be like the Ritz Carlton, same style and brand standards, but different locales. So yeah, there ya go. Hmmm you just said what I said. I just got streight to the point. In truth I like the building. It's great for chicago, I'm just not feeling the name. Imperfect Ending February 15th, 2009, 02:49 AM I like it :D ryan81 March 8th, 2009, 08:20 PM Original Image used for this composite was by Jibba: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4285/skylineoverwesttown5977.jpg Original Image by 06wt in the Trump Tower Forum SSP. http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8973/waldorf1.jpg The other Dude March 8th, 2009, 09:17 PM never seen that angle of chicago... there are some free plots left for some more supertalls :-D kingsc March 9th, 2009, 01:08 AM ^^^I don't think so must of that free space is water. And sears tower is missing from the first pic. dachacon March 9th, 2009, 02:26 AM i think he ment the parking lots immediately around the waldorf site. diddy March 10th, 2009, 12:06 AM Chicago is becoming the most interesting city i north america when it comes so skyscrapers, design and street life ^^^ kingsc March 10th, 2009, 12:18 AM i think he ment the parking lots immediately around the waldorf site. I thought he was talking about the gap between the john handcock center, chicago spire and the waldorf site my bad. Chicago is becoming the most interesting city i north america when it comes so skyscrapers, design and street life ^^^ I give it a number two for style, I like Toronto a lot. Not much happening in mexico city. And new york is new york. The other Dude March 10th, 2009, 01:12 AM no i ment the parking lots ;-) but if you compare the two pictures, the gap between cs and w=a seems to be diffrent, isnt it? kingsc March 10th, 2009, 01:16 AM Yes it is and sears tower is missing . the man from k-town March 11th, 2009, 05:37 PM great tower. i hope it wille be built. buildmilehightower March 12th, 2009, 12:23 AM lol, the render at the top of the page is so translucent. Dallas star March 12th, 2009, 12:27 AM Looks great! AmericanSkyscraper22 May 9th, 2009, 05:23 PM looks great! hopefully some construction will start soon TroyBoy May 11th, 2009, 10:41 AM Ive used the parking lot where this building will go many times while going to AMC, its in terrible shape and has a fenced off lake in the middle of it. friendsofthecity May 11th, 2009, 03:13 PM ^^^I don't think so must of that free space is water. And sears tower is missing from the first pic.Sear Tower is a bit on the left-hand side of the first picture. buildmilehightower May 11th, 2009, 10:14 PM hope this tower really had a semi-invisibility cladding. Rodrigo21 May 12th, 2009, 03:18 AM It looks like the SWFC, I like it. :) bubble07 May 12th, 2009, 03:32 AM looks very similar to one in shangai ryan81 July 26th, 2009, 02:00 AM Original Image by: Cbotnyse http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5628/26253148.jpg schum-ho July 26th, 2009, 12:22 PM ^^ Great! Is there a schedule for the construction already? I would really like to see this one go up. Onn July 27th, 2009, 02:42 AM ^^ Great! Is there a schedule for the construction already? I would really like to see this one go up. This tower probably won't get built, it's being proposed by the former Chicago Spire developer. They couldn't get the Spire done and doubtful they will follow through on this one either. There's a better chance of the Spire getting built, I think...But we will see what happens when the economy gets better. CrazyAboutCities July 30th, 2009, 06:30 AM I hope it will get built! I think this tower is damn sexy!!! Buddy Holly August 1st, 2009, 12:37 AM Sear Tower is a bit on the left-hand side of the first picture. That's John Hancock tower. ZZ-II August 1st, 2009, 12:45 AM yes, sears tower is on the right :) ( not visible ) chinanorthglass August 1st, 2009, 07:01 AM :) nice! chjbolton August 3rd, 2009, 07:07 PM ^^ Alright. It's your first post so I'll be gentle but usually, you're supposed to express your opinion with a slightly better argumented prose than this when you bump a semi-dead thread. Welcome anyway! GeoDude August 9th, 2009, 04:46 AM BUILD THIS TOWER. its so sexy. dark_shadow1 August 9th, 2009, 07:08 PM Looks like Shanghai WTC without the hole at the top. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Other/ShanghaiWorldFinancialCenter5small1.jpg?t=1249833991 Not a very creative design but still looks nice. punk_oi August 10th, 2009, 03:48 AM is this building going to be built? also, what does app mean? helghast August 10th, 2009, 03:48 AM ^^ right now it's slim that it will get built. and app means the building has been approved by the city i_am_hydrogen September 14th, 2009, 08:35 PM Bad news... this one has been canceled: saw this tidbit referring that his project was cancelled in an article today talking about lowes dropping out of block 37?...I dont remember hearing anything???? "Instead, Loews' plan becomes the latest in a string of proposed hotels that have been canceled, including a luxury Waldorf Astoria in Streeterville and a trendy Gansevoort in River North." http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/mag/article.pl?articleId=32361;seenIt=1 ZZ-II September 14th, 2009, 09:28 PM what a pity :( Momo1435 September 14th, 2009, 09:56 PM A pity, but not really a surprise. CrazyAboutCities September 14th, 2009, 10:35 PM That is very disappointing... Hope one day someone else will come up with better plan for that site. BlackLukes September 15th, 2009, 12:02 AM Sad news.. but it was already in the air. I hope they won't waste the design, could be useful for a future tower Onn September 15th, 2009, 04:54 AM Sad, but not surprised on this one. I don't think it ever had much of a chance, even when the econemy was good. Poolah September 15th, 2009, 05:13 AM scary to think this building is taller than most buildings in cities across the country. Just another hotel in Chicago :O... MichiganWolverine September 15th, 2009, 08:49 AM I am sad to see this one go. kingsc September 15th, 2009, 08:53 PM These things happen sometimes for da best sometime for da worst The_Bazz_92 September 19th, 2009, 08:43 PM So sad to see this one cancelled :( EnDleSsWaLtZ September 20th, 2009, 07:43 PM I'm am truly disappointed. What a shame. :( Coinpeace September 20th, 2009, 09:22 PM wow... another cancelled supertall :( and in the us of all places Imperfect Ending September 24th, 2009, 10:56 PM booo Puja Bali May 15th, 2010, 06:00 AM Please get this project built, guys! marcopolo May 22nd, 2010, 07:19 PM ^^ :scouserd: kingsc May 25th, 2010, 12:05 AM sorry buddy this thing dead well since it never was u guest u can't say it dead Eric Offereins May 27th, 2010, 11:11 PM :lock: Ushiro May 28th, 2010, 11:58 PM :badnews: |