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antonbirakak
March 31st, 2011, 12:47 PM
for abs -cbn

cagayan valley region

ABS-CBN TV-3 Tuguegarao DWAF-TV TV-3 Relay Station 1 kW (11.12 kW ERP) Tuguegarao, Cagayan
ABS-CBN TV-2 Isabela DWAT-TV TV-2 Originating 1 kW (9 kW ERP) Santiago, Isabela

296619
March 31st, 2011, 09:03 PM
Yung GMA TV7 SANTIAGO, relay po ba o originating?... Mas ok po ang originating no?

freightrunner
April 1st, 2011, 01:42 AM
Mas OK ang originating dahil pwede silang magbroadcast ng original programs which are independent of the mother station in Metro Manila. Kung merong local producers sana diyan na gagawa ng local programs in Ilocano pwede.

willyjerk
April 1st, 2011, 02:50 AM
Mas OK ang originating dahil pwede silang magbroadcast ng original programs which are independent of the mother station in Metro Manila. Kung merong local producers sana diyan na gagawa ng local programs in Ilocano pwede.

Relay Station lang sir..... tama ka mas ok sana ang originating..pero malay mo in the future ma convert into originating ang sa santiago....Yung relay station nila sa cabbarroguis itratransfer sa santiago pero bago lahat ang facilities. Yung reason is to cover the most number of households. Aprubado na sa committee level ang application nila...and their target date to air is on May 2011.

b_two
April 1st, 2011, 11:49 AM
according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadcasters_owned_or_affiliated_with_GMA_Network) there is also an existing gma tv-7 translator station in ilagan.


Broadcast translators

In its simplest form, a broadcast translator is a facility created to receive a terrestrial broadcast station over-the-air on one frequency and rebroadcast the same or substantially-identical signal on another frequency. These stations are used in television and radio to cover areas (such as valleys or rural villages) not adequately covered by a station's main signal.

from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_relay_station)

sairoangel
April 1st, 2011, 12:38 PM
bakit sa isabela, tagalog yung ginagamit.. ibang mga regional network (TV Patrol) ginagamit nila yung local language..

296619
April 1st, 2011, 12:40 PM
Sa mga taga Santiago at sa mga pupunta ng Santiago, Simula ngayong araw na ito mahigpit pong pinagbabawal ang mga sumusunod:

1. Bawal ang magtapon ng kahit anong uri ng basura sa mga pampublikong lugar;

2. Bawal umihi at dumumi sa mga daan, parke at open areas;

3. Bawal ang manigarilyo sa mga pamoublikong lugar. Sa loob lng ng bahay at pribadong lugar pwede.

4. Bawal ang maghugas at maglinis ng kahit anong sasakyan sa mga daanan. Magpa carwash sa carwash ni Kulas o sa private compound;

5. Siguruhing nakahiwalay ang mga nabubulok sa hindi nabubulok.

6. Panatilihing malinis ang mga tapat o inyong bakuran;

7. Bawal magtapon ng kahit anong basura sa mga kanal;

8. Dapat may trash can o trash bin ang mga pumpublikong sasakyan.

Ang sino mang mahuli ay magmumulta ng 500 - 2500 pesos o kulong na 5 - 30 araw.

Guys hindi nakikipagbiruan ang city govt. Maraming nahuli dyan sa araw na ito. As in marami!

Sir Willy baka may copy po kayo ng ordinance, pwede pashare po... Salamat

296619
April 1st, 2011, 12:45 PM
@sairoangel, mas marami po kasing masmakakaintindi sa Filipino. Ibat - ibang tao na po kasi ang meron sa Isabela. Sa Santiago halimbawa ay may atleast 17 na "ethno-linguistic groups".

b_two
April 1st, 2011, 01:13 PM
Sa mga taga Santiago at sa mga pupunta ng Santiago, Simula ngayong araw na ito mahigpit pong pinagbabawal ang mga sumusunod:

1. Bawal ang magtapon ng kahit anong uri ng basura sa mga pampublikong lugar;

2. Bawal umihi at dumumi sa mga daan, parke at open areas;

3. Bawal ang manigarilyo sa mga pamoublikong lugar. Sa loob lng ng bahay at pribadong lugar pwede.

4. Bawal ang maghugas at maglinis ng kahit anong sasakyan sa mga daanan. Magpa carwash sa carwash ni Kulas o sa private compound;

5. Siguruhing nakahiwalay ang mga nabubulok sa hindi nabubulok.

6. Panatilihing malinis ang mga tapat o inyong bakuran;

7. Bawal magtapon ng kahit anong basura sa mga kanal;

8. Dapat may trash can o trash bin ang mga pumpublikong sasakyan.

Ang sino mang mahuli ay magmumulta ng 500 - 2500 pesos o kulong na 5 - 30 araw.

Guys hindi nakikipagbiruan ang city govt. Maraming nahuli dyan sa araw na ito. As in marami!

Sir Willy baka may copy po kayo ng ordinance, pwede pashare po... Salamat



sana hindi ito maging ningas kugon tulad ng sa mmda. i am sure ilang araw lang makikita na ang resulta ng ganitong kampanya. go go go!!!

296619
April 1st, 2011, 07:48 PM
@Btwo... Sana nga i-impliment yan strictly para laging malinis ang paligid at mas maging mabango sa mga would-be investors ang Santiago.

After nito sana maging strikto na rin sila sa mga side-walk vendors then ilipat nila yung ibang nagbebenta ng lechon manok at lugawan sa itatayo nilang park.

Masasanay din ang tao sa kalinisan e. Darating ang panahon na yung mga taong hindi maalaga sa paligid e, automatic na na magiging malinis sila at sila na mismo ang pupuna sa mga nagkakalat.

Saan nga daw ho ulit ilalagay ang bagsakan center ng Santiago? Salamat.

hugodiekonig
April 1st, 2011, 08:10 PM
Sa mga taga Santiago at sa mga pupunta ng Santiago, Simula ngayong araw na ito mahigpit pong pinagbabawal ang mga sumusunod:

1. Bawal ang magtapon ng kahit anong uri ng basura sa mga pampublikong lugar;

2. Bawal umihi at dumumi sa mga daan, parke at open areas;

3. Bawal ang manigarilyo sa mga pamoublikong lugar. Sa loob lng ng bahay at pribadong lugar pwede.

4. Bawal ang maghugas at maglinis ng kahit anong sasakyan sa mga daanan. Magpa carwash sa carwash ni Kulas o sa private compound;

5. Siguruhing nakahiwalay ang mga nabubulok sa hindi nabubulok.

6. Panatilihing malinis ang mga tapat o inyong bakuran;

7. Bawal magtapon ng kahit anong basura sa mga kanal;

8. Dapat may trash can o trash bin ang mga pumpublikong sasakyan.

Ang sino mang mahuli ay magmumulta ng 500 - 2500 pesos o kulong na 5 - 30 araw.

Guys hindi nakikipagbiruan ang city govt. Maraming nahuli dyan sa araw na ito. As in marami!

Sir Willy baka may copy po kayo ng ordinance, pwede pashare po... Salamat

Ok to ah. Yup, sana hindi ningas kugon, huwag maging kagaya sa amin sa san fernando(la union):ohno::ohno::ohno:

freightrunner
April 1st, 2011, 11:04 PM
Hindi na nga dapat kailangan isabatas pa yan dahil alam naman ng tao na bawal at nakakasira ng kapaligiran yan. Kung bakit kasi ganyan katigas ang ulo nating mga pinoy. Sa ibang bansa wala kang makikitang ganyang nakapaskil pero malinis pa rin ang paligid.

296619
April 2nd, 2011, 12:07 AM
Yep... Kung magiging technical tayo, kelangang may batas na nagpapataw ng kaparusahan sa mga nasabing gawa. Ngunit kung sa aspetong paghihikayat na maging malinis, may mga iba pang paraan.

Dapat kasi responsible ang bawat tao sa mga nasabing gawain. Ngunit marami nga talagang sadyang matigas ang ulo at hindi disiplinado. Kaya tamang isabatas ang pagpataw ng parusa sa mga matitigas ang ulo.

296619
April 2nd, 2011, 02:31 AM
Nabasa na....

296619
April 2nd, 2011, 02:33 AM
Guys 296619's info is feed by atleast 19 people. So huwag magtaka kung bakit updated lagi. Hehe... ;)

Perseus II
April 2nd, 2011, 03:27 AM
Ok to ah. Yup, sana hindi ningas kugon, huwag maging kagaya sa amin sa san fernando(la union):ohno::ohno::ohno:

kahit sa amin parang palitaw din, minsan may political will minsan wala... ngayon 70 percent wala.

ningas kugon din :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Perseus II
April 2nd, 2011, 03:30 AM
Guys 296619's info is feed by atleast 19 people. So huwag magtaka kung bakit updated lagi. Hehe... ;)


:okay::okay::okay:

296619
April 2nd, 2011, 01:16 PM
sinong ngtype ng feed? haha... ;)

b_two
April 2nd, 2011, 03:50 PM
^^ dapat pala meron kayong codename para alam namin kung sino nagpost.:lol:

296619
April 2nd, 2011, 05:33 PM
There are only three people assiged to post here for the meantime sir. Only for the mean time. Wala kc sir R. Assigned lng naman din kami this time to post here. Pag busy si sir R. Inaassign niya kami mgpost dito for him.

We rather use one instead of having separate accounts. Its hard kung may masagasaan but we practice fairness as much as possible. We are more than one. But there is only one "main man". Most of us are researchers. Whether good or bad, we gather them. But we are more gleaned to post positive matters. Yung mga negative comments hindi kami pasimuno niyan a. May record nman kaya sana huwag niyo kaming atakehin.

With regard to the pictures, we only use one uploading station. He's one of our researchers.

b_two
April 2nd, 2011, 06:10 PM
ako amused lang ako sa inyong unity at dedication which is a very positive thing for this thread. mabuhay kayo.:cheers:

antonbirakak
April 3rd, 2011, 01:54 AM
@sairoangel, mas marami po kasing masmakakaintindi sa Filipino. Ibat - ibang tao na po kasi ang meron sa Isabela. Sa Santiago halimbawa ay may atleast 17 na "ethno-linguistic groups".

i just want to share guys.. ilocano ako, medyo hirap ako sa ibanag and im from tuguegarao.. alam niyo bang its a must for us to speak in ibanag pag nasa city hall or any city govt na pinupuntahan.. binyag nga ng anak ko, we have to speak in ibanag.. :ohno:.. pure ibanag city daw kasi ang tuguegarao at namamatay na daw ang ibanag language sa city.. sa akin naman, we have to accept the effect of change di b.. kaakibat yan ng pag unlad... though maganda ang hangarin ng city govt of tugeugarao pero parang mahirap atang gawin yun.. sa santiago kaya, may ordinance bang dapat sundin para sa medium of speaking??

antonbirakak
April 3rd, 2011, 01:56 AM
guys!! wala na yung thread ng tuguegarao!!! :ohno: na delete na ata!! :bash:

sayang pinasukan ng mga taong virus!! nanahimik tayo sa sharing di b..

Perseus II
April 3rd, 2011, 09:49 AM
There are only three people assiged to post here for the meantime sir. Only for the mean time. Wala kc sir R. Assigned lng naman din kami this time to post here. Pag busy si sir R. Inaassign niya kami mgpost dito for him.

We rather use one instead of having separate accounts. Its hard kung may masagasaan but we practice fairness as much as possible. We are more than one. But there is only one "main man". Most of us are researchers. Whether good or bad, we gather them. But we are more gleaned to post positive matters. Yung mga negative comments hindi kami pasimuno niyan a. May record nman kaya sana huwag niyo kaming atakehin.

With regard to the pictures, we only use one uploading station. He's one of our researchers.


ah kaya naman pala. So meaning we can never tell kung si sir rod talaga ang quote namin ?

anyway, good for you guys :)

BTW, nawala yung tugue thread, di ba nalinis na yun, ibig sabihin na invade na naman ng alien? :ohno:

Paano naman yung mga legitimate na posters dun? Mawawalan sila ng venue :ohno:

296619
April 3rd, 2011, 10:00 AM
Babalik din guys ang Tugue thread pag wala na yung mga alien... :)

b_two
April 3rd, 2011, 10:47 AM
any news sa construction sa harap ng provincial capitol?

gatestar
April 3rd, 2011, 11:57 AM
any news sa construction sa harap ng provincial capitol?
ISABELA SKY PARK PO UN NA MAY THEATRE AND SOME SHOPS PARANG SA SKY GARDEN NG SM NORTH EDSA MERON DIN MGA OFFICES DUN NA ITTAYO SA HARAP.. FOR MODERN ISABELA

b_two
April 3rd, 2011, 02:37 PM
wouldn't such development obstruct the view of the capitol? Is it a private or government project?

willyjerk
April 4th, 2011, 03:56 AM
Sir 21669, meron akong soft copy ng ordinance ng sa anti-smoking ordinance...yung sa basura...to follow na lang:

AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THE USE, SALE, DISTRIBUTION AND ADVERTISEMENT OF CIGARETTES AND OTHER TOBACCO PRODUCTS IN CERTAIN PLACES, IMPOSING PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS THEREOF AND PROVIDING FUNDS THEREFORE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
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Introduced by: COUN. AUGUSTO B. SARANGAYA
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WHEREAS, the 1987 Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines declares that the State shall protect and promote the right to health of the people and instill health consciousness among them;
WHEREAS, the Republic of the Philippines, under the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC) to which she is a party, determined to give priority to the right to protect public health and to promote measures of tobacco control based on current and relevant scientific, technical and economic considerations, and agreed to implement the measures provided in the treaty;
WHEREAS, Republic Act No. 7160 otherwise known as the Local Government Code of 1991 accords every local government units power and authority to promote the general welfare within its territorial jurisdiction, including the promotion of health and safety of its constituents;
WHEREAS, Republic Act No. 8749 otherwise known as the Philippine Clean Air Act of 1999 declares the right of every citizen to breathe clean air, prohibits smoking inside enclosed public places including public vehicles and other means of transport, and directs local government units to implement this provision;
WHEREAS, the Tobacco Regulation Act of 2003 (Republic Act No. 9211) prohibits smoking in certain public places whether enclosed or outdoors; prohibits the purchase and sale of cigarettes and other tobacco products from and to minors and in certain places frequented by minors; imposes bans and restrictions on advertising, promotion and sponsorship activities of tobacco companies; and directs local government units to implement these provisions;
WHEREAS, the City Government of Santiago must act with urgency to de-normalize the culture of smoking and tobacco consumption through comprehensive and proven effective tobacco control measures within its territorial jurisdiction;
WHEREAS, the City Government of Santiago recognizes the fundamental and irreconcilable conflict between the tobacco industry’s interests and public health policy, and realizes the need to be alert to and informed of any efforts by the tobacco industry to undermine or subvert tobacco control efforts;
WHEREAS, scientific evidence has unequivocally established that tobacco consumption and exposure to tobacco smoke cause death, disease and disability; lead to devastating health, social, economic and environmental consequences; and places burdens on families, on the poor, and on national and local health systems;
WHEREAS, scientific evidence has shown that there is no safe level of exposure to tobacco smoke; that effective measures to protect from exposure to it requires the total elimination of smoking and tobacco smoke; and that approaches other than 100% smoke-free environments, including ventilation, air filtration and the use of designated smoking areas (whether or not with separate ventilation systems) have repeatedly been shown to be ineffective;

NOW THEREFORE, Be it ordained by the Sangguniang Panlungsod in its regular session, duly assembled, that:

Section 1. Title - This Ordinance shall be known as the “Smoke Free Ordinance of the City of
Santiago”
Section 2. Purpose - The purpose of this Ordinance is to safeguard public health and ensure the well
being of all its constituents by protecting them from the harmful effects of smoking
and tobacco consumption.
Section 3. Coverage - This Ordinance shall apply to all persons, whether natural or juridical, whether
resident or not, and in all places, found within the territorial jurisdiction of Santiago City.
Section 4. Definition of Terms - As used in this Ordinance, the terms below shall have the meanings ascribed to them in this section. Any words or terms not defined shall be given their plain and customary meanings, unless the context requires otherwise, and shall be interpreted in a manner consistent with the purpose of this Ordinance.

a. Advertising and promotion- Refers to any form of commercial communication, recommendation or action with the aim, effect or likely effect of promoting a tobacco product or tobacco use either directly or indirectly.
b. Civil society organization (CSO)- Refers to a legally constituted voluntary civic and social organization or institution created with no participation of government, including but not limited to, charities, development non-governmental organizations (NGOs), community groups, women's organizations, faith-based organizations, professional associations, coalitions and advocacy groups duly recognized by the Office of the City Mayor. As used in this Ordinance, CSO does not include organizations or associations related to or connected with the tobacco industry in any way.
c. Enclosed or partially enclosed- Means being covered by a roof or enclosed by one or more walls or sides, regardless of the type of material used for the roof, wall or sides, and regardless of whether the structure is permanent or temporary.
d. Minor- Refers to any person below eighteen (18) years old.
e. Outdoor advertisement- Refers to any sign, model, placard, board, billboard, banner, bunting, light display, device, structure or representation employed outdoors wholly or partially to advertise or promote a tobacco product to the public.
f. Person-in-charge- Refers to, in case of public places, public outdoor spaces and workplaces, the president/manager in case of a company, corporation or association, the owner/proprietor/operator in case of a single proprietorship, or the administrator in case of government property, office or building, in case of public conveyances, the owner, driver, operator, or the conductor of the public conveyance.
g. Point-of-sale- Refers to any location at which an individual can purchase or otherwise obtain tobacco products.
h. Public conveyances- Refers to modes of transportation servicing the general population, such as, but not limited to, jeepneys, vans, buses, mini-buses, tricycles and other similar vehicles.
i. Public places- Refers to all places, fixed or mobile, that are accessible or open to the public or places for collective use, regardless of ownership or right to access, including, but not limited to, establishments that provide food and drinks, accommodation, merchandise, professional services, entertainment or other services. It also includes outdoor spaces where facilities are available for the public or where a crowd of people would gather, such as, but not limited to, playgrounds, sports grounds or centers, church grounds, health/hospital compounds, transportation terminals, markets, parks, resorts, walkways, entrance ways, waiting areas, and the like.
j. Second-hand smoke- Refers to the smoke emitted from the burning end of a cigarette or from other tobacco products usually in combination with the smoke exhaled by the smoker.
k. Smoking- Means being in possession or control of a lit tobacco product regardless of whether the smoke is being actively inhaled or exhaled.
l. Tobacco Products- Refers to products entirely or partly made of the leaf tobacco as raw material which are manufactured to be used for smoking, sucking, chewing or snuffing, such as cigarettes and cigars.
m. Workplace- Refers to any place used by people during their employment or work, whether done for compensation or voluntarily, including all attached or associated places commonly used by the workers in the course of their work (for example, corridors, stairways, toilets, lobbies, lounges). Vehicles used in the course of work are considered workplaces.



Section 5. Prohibited Acts. — The following acts are declared unlawful and prohibited under this
Ordinance:

a. Smoking in enclosed or partially enclosed public places, workplaces, public conveyances, or other public places, as defined in Section 4;
b. Selling or distributing tobacco products in a school, public playground or other facility frequented by minors, or within 100 meters from any point in the perimeter of these places;
c. Selling or distributing tobacco products to minors;
d. Purchasing tobacco products from minors;
e. Placing cinema and outdoor advertisements of tobacco products;
f. Placing, posting, or distributing advertising materials of tobacco products, such as leaflets, posters and similar materials, outside the premises of point-of-sale establishments;
g. Placing, posting, or distributing advertising materials of tobacco products, such as leaflets, posters and similar materials, even if inside the premises of point-of-sale establishments, when the establishments are not allowed to sell or distribute tobacco products, as in Section 5(b) above.

Persons-in-charge shall be held similarly liable for the above acts if they are found to have allowed,
abetted, or tolerated the same.

Section 6. Duties and Obligations of Persons-in-Charge. — Persons-in-charge shall:

a. Prominently post and display “No Smoking” signages in the locations most visible to the public in the areas where smoking is prohibited, including vehicles. At the very least, a “No Smoking” sign must be posted at the entrance to the area. The “No Smoking” sign shall be at least 8 x 16 inches in size and the international No Smoking symbol shall occupy no less than 70% of the signage. The remaining lower 30% of the signage shall show the following information:

[International No Smoking symbol]
STRICTLY NO SMOKING
As per ORDINANCE NO. _________
Violators can be fined up to P_____
Report violations to ____________
[Hotline number optional]

b. Remove from the places where smoking is prohibited all ashtrays and any other receptacles for disposing of cigarette refuse.
c. For persons-in-charge of schools, public playgrounds or other facilities frequented by minors, post the following statement in a clear and conspicuous manner:

SELLING OF CIGARETTES OR OTHER TOBACCO PRODUCTS NOT ALLOWED WITHIN 100 METERS FROM SCHOOL PERIMETER

d. For persons-in-charge of point-of-sale establishments, post the following statement in a clear and conspicuous manner:

SALE/DISTRIBUTION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO MINORS IS UNLAWFUL

e. Establish internal procedure and measures through which this Ordinance shall be implemented and enforced within the area of which he or she is in charge, including, but not limited to, warning violators and requesting them to stop smoking, and if they refuse to comply, asking them to leave the premises, and if they still refuse to comply, reporting the incident to the city health officer and to the nearest peace officer.
f. Ensure that all the employees in the establishment are aware of this Ordinance and the procedure and measures for implementing and enforcing it.
g. Allow inspectors acting under Sections 14 and 15 hereof and representatives of the designated civil society organization under Section 16 entry into the establishment during regular business hours for the purpose of inspecting its compliance with this Ordinance.
h. For all signage required to be posted under (a), (c), and (e) above, provide for versions of them in the local language.

Section 7. Persons Liable. — The following persons shall be liable under this Ordinance:

a. Any person or entity who commits any of the prohibited acts stated in Section 5 hereof;
b. Persons in-charge who knowingly allow, abet, or tolerate the prohibited acts enumerated in Section 5, or who otherwise fail to fulfill the duties and obligations enumerated in Section 6 hereof.

Section 8. Penalties.—The following penalties shall be imposed on violators of this Ordinance:

a. Violation of Section 5 (a) and Section 6

i. First Offense P 500.00
ii. Second Offense P1,000.00
iii.Third and Subsequent
Offenses P2,500.00 or imprisonment for a period not exceeding 5 days or both at the discretion of the court.

Revocation or suspension of business license or permit (in case of a business entity or establishment), if applicable.

b. Violation of Section 5 (b), (c), and (d)

i. First Offense P1,500.00
ii. Second Offense P3,000.00
iii.Third and Subsequent
Offenses P5,000.00 or imprisonment for a period not exceeding 10 days or both at the discretion of the court.

Revocation or suspension of business license or permit (in case of a business entity or establishment), if applicable.

c. Violation of Section 5 (e), (f), and (g)

i. First Offense P2,000.00
ii. Second Offense P3,000.00
iii.Third and Subsequent
Offenses P5,000.00 or imprisonment for a period not exceeding 15 days or both at the discretion of the court.

Revocation or suspension of business license or permit (in case of a business entity or establishment)

d. Revocation or Suspension of License - The license to operate of any establishment or of any public conveyance covered by this Ordinance shall be suspended for at least one (1) week but not more than one (1) month, or revoked. Should the license or permit to operate of a specific establishment or of any public conveyance, found to be in violation of this ordinance, fall outside of the jurisdiction of the city, the recommendation for revocation of license shall be forwarded to the appropriate agency or governing body.
e. Community Service - If a violator is unable to pay the fines imposed, he or she may choose to render community service to the city. For every hour of community service rendered, his outstanding fine shall be reduced by an amount equivalent to triple the hourly minimum wage of the city.
f.
Section 9. Citation Ticket System - Violators of this Ordinance shall be informed of their violation and
the penalty associated with such violation by means of a Citation Ticket System with the following
guidelines:

a. Official booklets of Citation Tickets shall be issued by the Health Office to duly authorized enforcers within ninety (90) calendar days of the effectivity of this Ordinance.
b. A Citation Ticket shall be issued to the person/s liable for any violation of this Ordinance upon
finding of the violation by duly authorized enforcers.
c. A Citation Ticket shall contain the following information:

1. A checklist of the violations under this Ordinance;
2. The fines associated with each violation;
3. Due date for compliance with the obligations imposed by the ticket

d. When a Citation Ticket is issued to a violator, the violator shall report to the City Health Office within three (3) regular business days after such issuance, where he or she shall either pay the fine imposed or render community service under Section 8 (e) hereof.
e. The City Health Office shall keep a duplicate of all Citation Tickets issued to violators as well as all other records of violations of this Ordinance.

Section 10. Smoking Cessation Program - The City Health Officer, with the assistance of the Smoke Free / Tobacco Control Advocates and the CSO representative designated under Section 16 hereof, shall develop, promote and implement a Smoking Cessation Program and encourage the participation therein of public and private facilities which may be able to provide for its requirements. Smokers who are willing to quit and/or those found violating this Ordinance shall be referred to the Smoking Cessation program and its facilities.

ENFORCEMENT

Section 11. Smoke free Task Force - A Task Force shall be created to aid in the implementation, enforcement and monitoring of this Ordinance and to protect the same from tobacco industry interference at all times, as well as to conduct educational awareness campaigns, information dissemination programs, and capacity building programs, that will inform the constituents and train enforcement officers.

The Task Force shall be composed of the following:

a. City Health Officer;
b. Smoke Free / Tobacco Control Advocates
c. City Legal Officer;
d. Building Officer;
e. City Business Permits and License Officer;
f. Representative/s of one or more civil society organizations (CSO) designated by the City Health Officer under Section 16 hereof;
g. Representative of the Philippine National Police (PNP) and the Department of Public Order and Safety, DPOS;
h. City Treasurer;
i. City Environment and Natural Resources Officer (ENRO);
j. Association of Barangay Chairpersons (ABC) President;
k. Other member/s identified by the City Health Officer (whose specific function in the LGU and role in the effective implementation of tobacco control policies may be considered invaluable)

The Task Force shall not include as its member any person or entity upholding or accommodating tobacco industry interests or is connected in any way to the tobacco industry in order to protect the primary health objectives of this Ordinance from any and all interests prejudicial to tobacco control policies and to preserve its integrity.

Section 12. Duties and Responsibilities of the Task Force - Other than (1) receiving, reviewing and processing reports of and complaints for violations of this Ordinance and (2) deputizing enforcers under Sections 13 to 16 hereof, the Task Force shall have the following respective duties and responsibilities:

a. The City Health Officer shall:

1) Issue official Citation Tickets to the enforcers;
2) Assign a hotline or any other number to which violations of this Ordinance may be reported by telephone call or by SMS, and a person to operate the line and record reports;
3) Serve as the overall coordinator among all the City Gov’t. offices involved in the implementation of this Ordinance;
4) Develop, promote and implement a Smoking Cessation Program, as stated under Section 10;
5) Make tobacco control, including the implementation and enforcement of this Ordinance, a part of the health program to be proposed for funding from the annual budget of the City Government of Santiago;

b. The Smoke Free / Tobacco Control Advocates shall:

1) Develop and produce information, education and communication materials on the harms of second-hand smoke as well as on the provisions of this Ordinance;
2) Encourage constituents of Santiago City to monitor and report violations of this Ordinance;
3) Assist the City Health Officer in developing, promoting and implementing a Smoking Cessation Program;

c. The City Legal Officer shall:

1) Assist the Health Office in reviewing reports of and complaints for violations of this Ordinance and in determining liability;

d. The Building Officer shall:

1) Conduct, together with the Health Office or on its own, inspection activities as provided in this Ordinance;
2) Determine whether or not enclosed or partially enclosed public places, workplaces or other public places comply with the requirements of this Ordinance

e. The City Business Permits and License Officer shall:

1) Order the suspension or revocation of permits and licenses of establishments found to have violated this Ordinance, subject to the provisions of Section 8 hereof;
2) Deny renewal of permits and licenses of violators of this Ordinance

f. The CSO Representative/s shall:

1) Assist in preliminary inspections and in monitoring violations of this Ordinance;
2) Assist in promoting awareness of this Ordinance and in encouraging public support and participation in its implementation and enforcement;
3) Assist in developing, promoting and, if capable, implementing a Smoking Cessation Program;
4) Assist in developing and conducting orientation seminars and training seminars for enforcers;
5) Assist in evaluating the performance of the Task Force and the effectiveness of the implementation and enforcement of this Ordinance.



g. The PNP and DPOS Representatives shall:

1) Apprehend violators in accordance with the provisions of this Ordinance;
2) Assist city officials and deputized task force in apprehending violators and in filing the appropriate complaints;
3) Assist in promoting awareness of this Ordinance and in encouraging public support and participation in its implementation and enforcement

h. The City Treasurer shall:

1. Collect and receive fines paid by a violator and submit reports relating thereto to the
Task Force;
2. Designate collection agents, as necessary, to assist in the efficient collection of fines

j. The City Environment and Natural Resources Officer shall:

1. Assist in promoting awareness of this Ordinance as a component in the protection and conservation of the environment and in encouraging public support and participation in its implementation and enforcement;
2. Assist in inspection and monitoring violations of the Ordinance on its own or with any member of the Task Force;
3. Conduct periodic monitoring of air, water, soil quality and other studies pertinent to determining levels of exposure to tobacco smoke, residue, by-products and litter;
4. Provide the expertise in the application and management of appropriate technologies to avert environmental risks and damage posed by tobacco smoke, residue, by-products and litter

k. The President of the Association of Barangay Chairpersons (ABC) shall:

1. Assist in promoting awareness of this Ordinance in encouraging public support and
participation in its implementation and enforcement;
2. Coordinate with all Barangay Chairpersons and the PNP in monitoring violations of
The Ordinance within their jurisdictions;
3.Provide the necessary coordination among the Barangay Health Workers, Kagawads
And Tanods and other enforcers for the implementation of activities pertinent to the
Ordinance;
5. Assist in the facilitation of referrals for the Smoking Cessation Program at the
Barangay Level.

Section 13. Enforcement on Individuals - Members of the PNP and DPOS shall apprehend and issue Citation Tickets against persons caught smoking in places where such is prohibited. They shall forward copies of the tickets they issue violators to the City Health Office regularly, at least thrice a week.
Section 14. Enforcement on Public Conveyances - Members of the PNP, DPOS and/or persons duly deputized by the Task Force shall inspect public conveyances during their regular hours of operation and shall issue Citation Tickets upon discovery of any violation of this Ordinance. They shall forward copies of the tickets they issue violators to the City Health Office regularly, at least thrice a week.
Section 15. Enforcement on Establishments - Ninety (90) calendar days after the effectivity of this Ordinance, an inspection team composed of representatives from the City Health Office, the City Engineer’s Office, and the City Permits and License Office, shall conduct inspections of establishments and buildings to determine their compliance with the provisions of this Ordinance.

Regular inspection shall thereafter be conducted at least once every month or simultaneously with other regular inspections done by the inspection team, whichever is more frequent, during normal hours of operation of the establishment.

The inspection team shall issue a Citation Ticket against the establishment upon finding of non-compliance with or of any violation of this Ordinance. A Citation Ticket may be issued for each day that the establishment is found to be non-compliant.

Re-inspection of the establishment shall be done on any day after the issuance of the Citation Ticket, but in no case more than ten (10) calendar days after such issuance. If the establishment fails to comply with the obligations stated in the Citation Ticket upon re-inspection, the inspection team shall recommend the suspension of the license to operate of the establishment, consistent with Section 8 (d) hereof.

In the course of inspection, the inspection team may apprehend individual violators and request the assistance of the PNP in doing so.

Section 16. Civilian Participation in Enforcement - Within thirty (30) calendar days from the effectivity of this Ordinance, the City Health Office shall designate, with the approval of the Office of the City Mayor, one or more civil society organizations (CSO) to discharge the duties and responsibilities enumerated in Section 12 (g) hereof.

The Task Force may deputize qualified civilians to serve as enforcers of this Ordinance.

Any person can file with the Task Force a report of or complaint for any violation of this Ordinance.

INFORMATION CAMPAIGN

Section 17. Information Dissemination - Within sixty (60) calendar days of the effectivity of this Ordinance, the City Health Office shall:

a. In coordination with the Office of the City Mayor:

1) Provide at least two (2) copies of this Ordinance to every PNP station or precinct in stationed in the city;
2) Provide a primer on this Ordinance for every member of the PNP member in the city; and
3) Conduct lectures to brief members of the PNP members of the provisions of this Ordinance and of their responsibilities with respect to its enforcement.

b. In coordination with the City Permits and Licenses Office, give a copy of this Ordinance and its primer to all existing establishments that are licensed to operate and open to the public, as well as to those applying for a new license to operate.
c. In coordination with the City Information Office, give a copy of this Ordinance and its primer to all public utility vehicle operators in the city.

Section 18. Public Billboards, Notices in Barangays. — Upon effectivity of this Ordinance, the City Engineer’s Office shall put up billboards in conspicuous places in the city to notify the public of the restrictions and sanctions imposed by this ordinance. The City Information Office shall also immediately issue for dissemination at the barangay level notices regarding the obligations of persons under the ordinance.
Section 19. Conduct of Orientation Seminars and Trainings. -- Within sixty (60) calendar days from the effectivity of this Ordinance and periodically thereafter, the City Health Officer, with the assistance of the Health Education and Promotion Officer and the CSO representative designated under Section 16 hereof, shall develop and conduct a series of orientation seminars and trainings for the enforcers of this Ordinance, at least one for each group, including but not limited to, deputized enforcers like barangay health workers and the barangay tanod, and the local PNP.

FINANCING

Section 20. Funding. — An initial funding to defray the expenses necessary for or incidental to the implementation of this Ordinance in the amount of Two Hundred Thousand Pesos, P200,000.00 shall be sourced out from the City Health Office is hereby allocated. Every year thereafter, at least Five Hundred Thousand Pesos, P500,000.00 shall automatically be included under the Health Care Services in the Annual Budget of the City Government of Santiago for the implementation and enforcement of this Ordinance, based on Santiago City plans and programs.



The above expenses include, but are not limited to:

a. Costs of printing copies of this Ordinance, the Citation Tickets, and information, education and communication materials pertaining to tobacco control;
b. Costs of inspection and enforcement by the Smoke free Task Force, including allowances for meals and transportation, the amounts of which shall be set by the Office of the City Mayor;
c. Incentive or reward for private citizens who report violations of this Ordinance;
d. Institution and operating expenses of the smoking cessation program and facility;
e. Other expenses associated with the implementation and enforcement of this Ordinance

Section 21. Repealing Clause. — All ordinances contrary to or inconsistent with this Ordinance are hereby repealed or modified accordingly.
Section 22. Separability Clause. —If any part or provision of this Ordinance is declared unconstitutional or invalid, the same shall not affect the validity and effectivity of the other parts or provisions hereof.
Section 23. Effectivity Clause. — This Ordinance shall take effect fifteen (15) days after its publication in a newspaper of local or general circulation or posting in at least two (2) conspicuous places in the city.

gatestar
April 5th, 2011, 03:35 PM
ISABELA SKY PARK PO UN NA MAY THEATRE AND SOME SHOPS PARANG SA SKY GARDEN NG SM NORTH EDSA MERON DIN MGA OFFICES DUN NA ITTAYO SA HARAP.. FOR MODERN ISABELA
its a government project sir... matagal namn ng plano park sa harap pinaganda lng ngaun at ginawang sky park.. d namn siguro ma ba block ung view kasi may daan namn papasok at dun namn dumadaan mga jeep eh hehe

b_two
April 5th, 2011, 07:23 PM
^^^^

thanks for the info, bossing. it's nice to know that things are picking up in ilagan. :cheers:

PRPB
April 6th, 2011, 02:37 AM
Ruel, Check below from ArkiCAD's facebook account.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161812840506203&id=140351122652375&aid=30767

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=21722&id=140351122652375

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=29134&id=140351122652375

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=34020&id=140351122652375

PRPB
April 6th, 2011, 02:42 AM
Ruel, See below link from ArkiCAD's facebook account.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161812840506203&id=140351122652375&aid=30767

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=29134&id=140351122652375

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=21722&id=140351122652375

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=34020&id=140351122652375

b_two
April 6th, 2011, 12:25 PM
^^^^

wow! is that the official design, paul? my net is literally crawling that's why i can't browse the fb page entirely and see if there are pronouncements regarding its finality. thanks.

b_two
April 6th, 2011, 12:37 PM
the images from the link my friend, prpb, provided above. taken from the facebook page of arkicad (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161812840506203&id=140351122652375&aid=30767#!/pages/Design-By-ArkiCAD/140351122652375):

isabela skypark, ilagan, isabela (designed by arkicad)

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/66342_161813783839442_140351122652375_395141_5859518_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/67775_161814140506073_140351122652375_395144_7104775_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/67438_161813880506099_140351122652375_395142_596012_n.jpg


http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/33727_161815180505969_140351122652375_395153_3236107_n.jpg


http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/73178_161814693839351_140351122652375_395148_399301_n.jpg


http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/67416_161815310505956_140351122652375_395155_5836222_n.jpg


http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/73730_161816060505881_140351122652375_395163_4509164_n.jpg


more images from the fb page (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161812840506203&id=140351122652375&aid=30767#!/pages/Design-By-ArkiCAD/140351122652375).

i would like to see the rendered images.:cheers::cheers::cheers:

b_two
April 6th, 2011, 01:15 PM
^^ thanks to prpb and arkicad for the images.

PRPB
April 7th, 2011, 02:27 AM
^^ thanks to prpb and arkicad for the images.

You're welcome... Sana nga lang unahin nila yung rehabilitation/renovation nung provincial hospital.

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 02:34 AM
question mga kapitapitagang sirs! how do i go to makasalanan st if id be coming from tuguegarao city?

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 02:41 AM
i just want to share guys.. ilocano ako, medyo hirap ako sa ibanag and im from tuguegarao.. alam niyo bang its a must for us to speak in ibanag pag nasa city hall or any city govt na pinupuntahan.. binyag nga ng anak ko, we have to speak in ibanag.. :ohno:.. pure ibanag city daw kasi ang tuguegarao at namamatay na daw ang ibanag language sa city.. sa akin naman, we have to accept the effect of change di b.. kaakibat yan ng pag unlad... though maganda ang hangarin ng city govt of tugeugarao pero parang mahirap atang gawin yun.. sa santiago kaya, may ordinance bang dapat sundin para sa medium of speaking??

this is not acceptable! pure ibanag city?! gimme a break! is this some sorta discrimination to non ibanags? youre right. they have to accept the fact that tuguegarao is changing

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 02:53 AM
its good that tuguegarao's thread is gone. the posters never accept the fact that their city got some fLAWS. only in tuguegarao where you can find a hospital that denies the unhealthy for the reason that that sick person isnt from tuguegarao. only in tuguegarao where people could afford a 280million worth citihall but doesnt have the fund to build a road. only in tuguegarao where you can find a burning building which is just a block away from the fire department yet there were casualties.

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 03:04 AM
only in tuguegarao where you could find people afraid of talking about their own longganisa. only in tuguegarao where you can find a traffic volunteer that carries an uzi while trafficking. only in tuguegarao where you can find a spanking mayor. check out those tourist spots only in tuguegarao baby! does your beloved santiago city have that? now please tell me, how do i go to makasalanan st?

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 06:12 AM
ah kaya naman pala. So meaning we can never tell kung si sir rod talaga ang quote namin ?

anyway, good for you guys :)

BTW, nawala yung tugue thread, di ba nalinis na yun, ibig sabihin na invade na naman ng alien? :ohno:

Paano naman yung mga legitimate na posters dun? Mawawalan sila ng venue :ohno:

they do post somewhere

296619
April 7th, 2011, 07:29 AM
The most exciting month for Santiago is coming!

Expect more construction. Expect projects (e.g. Devt of New City) to start rolling!

Expect the waive of new businesses!

b_two
April 7th, 2011, 08:02 AM
You're welcome... Sana nga lang unahin nila yung rehabilitation/renovation nung provincial hospital.
imo the provincial hospital should be upgraded to levels at par with manila hospitals vis-ŕ-vis facilities, medical practioners or personnel, and medical services being offered. Upgrades could provide isabelinos easier access to better and inexpensive medical services without going to manila or other provinces.

joelrm_22
April 7th, 2011, 10:05 AM
its good that tuguegarao's thread is gone. the posters never accept the fact that their city got some fLAWS. only in tuguegarao where you can find a hospital that denies the unhealthy for the reason that that sick person isnt from tuguegarao. only in tuguegarao where people could afford a 280million worth citihall but doesnt have the fund to build a road. only in tuguegarao where you can find a burning building which is just a block away from the fire department yet there were casualties.

Hi mr. darylfiremover, I'm from Tuguegarao, i have red all your comments about our city, it's so sad that your language stikes us so badly. Yes, we have the right to air our thoughts but we must be responsible and cautious enough about others' feelings, though there are no foul words but it apperently mirrors insult. I noted that your signature speaks about crab mentality and it's just surprising that it opposes your views/beliefs for that matter. I'm not tolerating our city government for all its questionable and bad moves but it's the city itself you are hitting awfully. So pls. stop all negative comments about Tuguegarao. I know your wise enough to respond nicely to this plead.:okay::okay::okay:

Our attitude should be respectful, cooperative, accountable, humble, helpful, encouraging, loyal. Not resentful, defiant or disrespectful. (Heb. 13:17, 1 Pet. 2:13-15)

GOD BLESS sa'yo pare.:):):)

joelrm_22
April 7th, 2011, 10:08 AM
only in tuguegarao where you could find people afraid of talking about their own longganisa. only in tuguegarao where you can find a traffic volunteer that carries an uzi while trafficking. only in tuguegarao where you can find a spanking mayor. check out those tourist spots only in tuguegarao baby! does your beloved santiago city have that? now please tell me, how do i go to makasalanan st?

Hi mr. darylfiremover, I'm from Tuguegarao, i have red all your comments about our city, it's so sad that your language stikes us so badly. Yes, we have the right to air our thoughts but we must be responsible and cautious enough about others' feelings, though there are no foul words but it apperently mirrors insult. I noted that your signature speaks about crab mentality and it's just surprising that it opposes your views/beliefs for that matter. I'm not tolerating our city government for all its questionable and bad moves but it's the city itself you are hitting awfully. So pls. stop all negative comments about Tuguegarao. I know your wise enough to respond nicely to this plead.:okay::okay::okay:


Our attitude should be respectful, cooperative, accountable, humble, helpful, encouraging, loyal. Not resentful, defiant or disrespectful. (Heb. 13:17, 1 Pet. 2:13-15)

GOD BLESS sa'yo pare.:):):)

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 10:43 AM
hi joel! the truth hurts aint it? stating the obvious is insulting too..

lloydbenitez
April 7th, 2011, 10:51 AM
it's never good that tuguegarao thread is already gone! and no one in the thread said that Tuguegarao doesn't have any flaws.

joelrm_22
April 7th, 2011, 11:13 AM
hi joel! the truth hurts aint it? stating the obvious is insulting too..

Hi darylfiremover! definitely i agree, truth hurts. But you should be gentle with your words. I believe you will not gain any profit if you scramble on others' wrongdoings. No negativity pls. If you dwell on the negative, your attitude will reflect the same. In Tuguegarao thread no one has ever said negative things about Santiago city (people, government, and culture). Hope you find this plead well.

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 11:19 AM
1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 11:21 AM
i dont wish to gain profit my friend

joelrm_22
April 7th, 2011, 11:23 AM
1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

hey dude. I never said that i don't have sin or Tuguegarao is a righteous city. In fact i even stressed out that i'm against those bad moves of our city officials. :):):)

joelrm_22
April 7th, 2011, 11:27 AM
i dont wish to gain profit my friend

I'm glad that you said it right. Your comments are less gentle, that's my point.:):)

darylfiremover
April 7th, 2011, 11:32 AM
its my nature..

joelrm_22
April 7th, 2011, 11:42 AM
its my nature..

I respect that dude, but next time we must be careful with our words. Thanks.:):)

296619
April 7th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Guys, please be reminded that this is Santiago and Isabela thread (Ilagan, Cauayan, Palanan etc). You may post your concerns to Cagayan Valley thread. Thanks.

Isabelinos are encouraged to make this thread productive by posting recent developments in Isabela, pictures depicting progress of the said province, fair and constructive criticisms about Isabela, and beautiful sceneries of Isabela!

God Bless Isabela!

b_two
April 7th, 2011, 11:54 AM
^^^^

i guess it would be best if you just pm each other or why not use the cagayan valley thread so you won't be off topic. this is the santiago city and isabela thread and we don't want it to suffer the same fate as the tuguegarao city and cagayan thread. i am hoping that your thread would be available soon. :cheers:

joelrm_22
April 7th, 2011, 12:02 PM
^^^^

i guess it would be best if you just pm each other or why not use the cagayan valley thread so you won't be off topic. this is the santiago city and isabela thread and we don't want it to suffer the same fate as the tuguegarao city and cagayan thread. i am hoping that your thread would be available soon. :cheers:

Hi everyone, sorry for the commotions. Thanks for reminding us.
@darylfiremover. Peace dude. Let's end this issue. :):):)

GOD BLESS everyone posting in this thread.:okay::okay:

antonbirakak
April 7th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Guys, please be reminded that this is Santiago and Isabela thread (Ilagan, Cauayan, Palanan etc). You may post your concerns to Cagayan Valley thread. Thanks.

Isabelinos are encouraged to make this thread productive by posting recent developments in Isabela, pictures depicting progress of the said province, fair and constructive criticisms about Isabela, and beautiful sceneries of Isabela!

God Bless Isabela!

@ daryl.. pre wala ka sa tuguegarao or cagayan thread.. please give some respect sa mga kaibigan natin from isabela.. hindi mo ba nakikita?? isabela thread to and you are engaging your troops of attacking words here..your words here are aliens.. find some place here at cagayan valley thread.. nakakahiya sa mga kaibigan natin dito.. kayo na nga ang dahilan kung bakit nawala ang tuguegarao thread, pati ba naman dito sa santiago thread idadamay niyo.. please lang kapatid..

antonbirakak
April 7th, 2011, 12:32 PM
its my nature..

your nature?? please kapatid.. find some place that fits your nature.. not here..

antonbirakak
April 7th, 2011, 12:34 PM
mga kapatid.. sorry kung pati santiago thread madedelete na...:bash: pinasukan na ng alien.. be ready..

lloydbenitez
April 7th, 2011, 12:49 PM
i apologize. sensya na. can't help but react. peace to the forumers of this thread!

296619
April 7th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Watch out for BAMBANTI FESTIVAL this coming May 1 - 11!

PATTARADAY FESTIVAL this May 1-5! ;)
^^
^^
^^

kaelthas18
April 7th, 2011, 05:31 PM
kumusta na progress ng Ilagan central terminal?
By the way any updates and pics from Gawaygawayan festival of Cauayan city? may celebration ba ngaung taon? it runs from march 30-april 14

kaelthas18
April 7th, 2011, 05:33 PM
@296619

dude confirmed naba ung robinsons lot sa may mabini?
wla pa rin balita sa Puregold, Savemore or robinsons d2 sa cauayan. mukhang hype lang ito.
Sana umunlad pa ang cities natin. Sa pagsabay sa pagunlad sana i-apply din ng mga local government ang masinsin na town planning at land use ng mga nasasakupan.

kaelthas18
April 7th, 2011, 05:38 PM
DUMadami na raw mga masasamang loob dyan sa cauayan. Ung isang indian national nilooban daw dyan at pinatay ang kanyang misis at pinagnakawan ng di kilalang sarilin habang wla ang kanyang mister. Dayo ba karamihan ng masasamang loob sa isabela or bunga ito ng droga. Nung umuwi ako nung december, ang dami ng drug addict,street children sa kalasada. Malabong wla ding magnanakaw. Uso na din ang riding in tandem modus d2 sabi ng kakilala ko.

freightrunner
April 7th, 2011, 06:39 PM
PIA Press Release
Tuesday, April 05, 2011
Former justice sec backs Ilagan’s cityhood bid
by Merlito G. Edale, Jr.

CAUAYAN CITY, Isabela, April 5 (PIA) – Former Department of Justice Secretary Silvestre Bello III expressed support to the renewed move of the local officials of Ilagan, Isabela, headed by Mayor Josemarie L. Diaz, for the town’s conversion to a city.


Bello stressed that converting Ilagan town to a city would benefit the Ilaguenos in terms of social and economic value as its Internal Revenue Allotment (IRA) will surely increase and there will be more funds for services.


“The eagerness of the municipal officials to convert the municipality of Ilagan to a city is a manifestation of their willingness to serve their constituents better,” Bello said.


He added that the municipality has already met the requirements of converting a locality to a city.


Under RA 9009, all local government units (LGU) aspiring for city-hood status should meet three main criteria specifically the land area of 100 kilometers, population of at least 150,000 and locally generated income of P100 million.

Bello advised the local officials to observe the process of converting a town to a city to avert future problems.


Bello said the move which shall emanate from the local council through resolution will be filed in congress through the sponsorship of a congressman.


Earlier, Isabela first district Rep. Rodolfo Albano has signified interest in filing again a bill calling for the conversion of Ilagan to a city.


It can be recalled that Ilagan has failed in its first bid for cityhood in 1997 when the residents rejected it in a plebiscite during the same year.


Bello warned the present leadership to observe honesty in public service once the town is converted into city adding that he will file charges in the Office of the Ombudsman against the officials who will be involved in graft and corruption.
PIA Isabela (http://www.pia.gov.ph/?m=7&r=r02&id=25929)

b_two
April 7th, 2011, 09:12 PM
kailan po ang binallay festival sa ilagan? Thanks.

kaelthas18
April 8th, 2011, 03:51 AM
sana mgawan na nila ng paraan na mag lagay ng mahabang tulay from centro to national hiway. para hindi dead end sa centro ng ilagan.

Tarlaqueno-ako
April 8th, 2011, 05:51 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/947093605_39f3d6b919_z.jpg

Gamu Isabela

By Shubert Ciencia
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Disabela%2Bchurches%26rd%3Dr1%26meta%3Dvc%253Dph%26fp_ip%3Dph&w=160&h=91&imgurl=www.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Disabela%2Bchurches%23focal%3Df4bdfd3b65b2ca5860add8cb145fb14e%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fimage53.webshots.com%252f53%252f5%252f40%252f18%252f452854018QWUGkB_ph.jpg&size=&name=search&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Disabela%2Bchurches%23focal%3Df4bdfd3b65b2ca5860add8cb145fb14e%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fimage53.webshots.com%252f53%252f5%252f40%252f18%252f452854018QWUGkB_ph.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Disabela%2Bchurches%23focal%3Df4bdfd3b65b2ca5860add8cb145fb14e%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fimage53.webshots.com%252f53%252f5%252f40%252f18%252f452854018QWUGkB_ph.jpg&p=isabela+churches&type=&no=3&tt=111&oid=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D524320583134%26id%3Dd5501b04344b22e5724aebe243c0751b&tit=la+isabela+church+pictures+from+caribbean+photos+on+webshots&sigr=15efdbvmg&sigi=157gldfe7&sigb=12micgdnv&fr=yfp-t-892#FCar=036562d14108fc060145005d33736ea0

296619
April 8th, 2011, 06:06 AM
Yung lot sa Mabini, Robinsons lot na yung harap. 3.7 hectares. Totally cleared yung area hangang sa ilog by April 15, 2011. Closed na dapat lahat ng roads doon by April 25, 2011... So expect na start ng idevelop yung buong area (new city) by next month na.

Hintayin natin ang statement ng cityhall. Malamang isasabay nila ang pronouncement nila sa Pattaraday Festival.

gatestar
April 8th, 2011, 06:12 AM
Ilagan, Isabela ---- Proposed Amphitheater/ Sky Park in front of the Capitol. Reshaping Isabela with eco-friendly, self-sustaining green designs

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205606_175836259135709_108297072556295_429722_3470504_n.jpg

gatestar
April 8th, 2011, 06:21 AM
Ilagan, Isabela ---- Proposed Amphitheater/ Sky Park in front of the Capitol. Reshaping Isabela with eco-friendly, self-sustaining green designs

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FULL DESIGN CLICK HERE https://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161812840506203&id=140351122652375&aid=30767

gatestar
April 8th, 2011, 06:28 AM
THE RENOVATION OF GOV FAUSTINO DY SR MEMORIAL HOSPITAL (PROVINCIAL HOSPITAL)
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Transformed to an iconic modern era of zero maintenance glass and ACP cladding! existing 2-storey front building renovated to include a garden roofdeck, with additional two floors on the center,and new 4-storey wing annexes on both sides crowned by a cantilevered skygarden with gull wing roof. Added a fifth floor on top of the existing four storey building at the back with a solar panels at roof deck level.

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existing building transformed into a modern, sleek, green and sustainable architectural icon featuring maximum lighting and ventilation, use of LED lighting, solar panels, ACP panels, tempered glass, natural stone finishes at the base

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whole building cladded in self-cleaning ACP and tempered glass panels featured with green roofdecks, lightcourts, air dams and a solar power farm at roofdeck. Fourth /fifth floor at rear connected by glass enclosed bridgeways to skygarden and new wing annexes
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solar power roof deck farm to harvest energy. an eco-friendly solution toward self sustainability for the building

gatestar
April 8th, 2011, 06:35 AM
Gov F N DY SPORTS/CONVENTION CENTER (SAAN KAYA IPAPATAYO TO?)

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b_two
April 8th, 2011, 10:44 AM
according to a very reliable source inside the ilagan municipal hall, the old "palengke" in centro will be demolished and turned into a mall. my source also told me that there are plans to resume construction of the unfinished bridge in ilagan.

PRPB
April 8th, 2011, 11:38 AM
according to a very reliable source inside the ilagan municipal hall, the old "palengke" in centro will be demolished and turned into a mall. my source also told me that there are plans to resume construction of the unfinished bridge in ilagan.

Hmm... mukhang tuloy yung balita about R.

296619
April 8th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Mukhang malabo ang Robinsons mall sa Ilagan dahil may Northstar mall na housing Savemore at Talavera Mall which will house Robinsons Supermarket.

About yung mga plans and designs posted, hindi kaya marketing strat lng yan ng archi? Hanggat hindi yan approbado ng council, wala lng yan. Hangang plan lng. O kahit na approved na kung walang construction, wala din.

Sana matuloy lahat niyan para ok... :)

b_two
April 8th, 2011, 12:53 PM
Hmm... mukhang tuloy yung balita about R.

sana unahin na yung tulay. saan ba ang tawid nun? sa may sta. isabel ba papuntang mallig plains?

PRPB
April 8th, 2011, 03:51 PM
sana unahin na yung tulay. saan ba ang tawid nun? sa may sta. isabel ba papuntang mallig plains?

Sana nga matuloy na.. matagal nang nakatengga ang tulay na yan. Mid 90's pa nung inumpisahan ang clearing para sa bagong daan sa Calamagui 1st para diyan sa tulay na yan.

@ 296619, FYI.. yung principal architect ng arkicad ay taga Santiago. Yung rumor about Robinson's mall sa old super market ay napagusapan sa meeting ng konseho sa Ilagan.

gatestar
April 8th, 2011, 06:43 PM
Sana nga matuloy na.. matagal nang nakatengga ang tulay na yan. Mid 90's pa nung inumpisahan ang clearing para sa bagong daan sa Calamagui 1st para diyan sa tulay na yan.

@ 296619, FYI.. yung principal architect ng arkicad ay taga Santiago. Yung rumor about Robinson's mall sa old super market ay napagusapan sa meeting ng konseho sa Ilagan.

Kaya nga d na tuloy ung robinsons sa Santiago eh.. kasi ok na usapan sa Konseho... kaya gagawing Robinsons ung Palengke dahil nagtatayo na namn ng Savemore sa Centro Ilagan kaya aun.. tapatan lng sila

b_two
April 8th, 2011, 06:58 PM
my source didn't specify which mall but there are already talks between the local government and the market association regarding the said project. Kung r, s, p or a local government funded mall sya like tuguegarao's mall of the valley (not sure about the name) is another question. My source is very reliable.

296619
April 9th, 2011, 12:20 AM
at PRPB and gatestar... Ok! Atleast you cleared one thing.


For sure, that won't be good for Ilagan's small economy kung itatayo yan ngayon o next year. Magiging saturated na kayo ng malls. Don't get hurt. I'm just telling a fact. Decision niyo nman yan. Good luck to people of Ilagan...

296619
April 9th, 2011, 12:22 AM
Naexperience ko na yang mga talk na yan. Maraming plans. Its better for you guys to wait!

296619
April 9th, 2011, 01:12 AM
Lastly, sa mga taong nasa konseho o may pusisyon sa gobyerno, gawin niyo ho ang trabaho niyo lalo na ang mga pinapangako niyo sa taong bayan. Huwag niyo kaming paaasahin. Kung 2015 o 2020 pa itatayo ang proyekto niyo, madi yu iwaragawag tatta!

Sa mga forumers dito na empleyado ng gobyerno, iparating niyo yan sa mga boss niyo sa opisina!

Huwag niyong icredit sa sarili niyo ang hindi pa nagagawa!

At, tulad ng sabi ni btwo, huwag maging bantay salakay!

PRPB
April 9th, 2011, 05:31 AM
at PRPB and gatestar... Ok! Atleast you cleared one thing.


For sure, that won't be good for Ilagan's small economy kung itatayo yan ngayon o next year. Magiging saturated na kayo ng malls. Don't get hurt. I'm just telling a fact. Decision niyo nman yan. Good luck to people of Ilagan...

@ 296619, Para sa akin tama na nga yung isang mall para hindi naman kawawa yung mga maliliit na negosyante. Just an example yung impact ng savemore sa mga vendors sa palengke at local grocery stores.. Pero in the end ang mga mamamayan parin ang panalo kasi bumaba talaga ang presyo ng bilihin.... Halimbawa na lang yung presyo ng pork. Dati P180 per kila sa palengke pero ang savemore P155 lang at choice cut pa! Noong una matumal ang benta ng local meat dealers pero noong sinabayan nila yung price ng savemore eh bumalik din naman sa kanila yung mga suki nila. Maliban sa price mas marami na ring offerings... Kung taga Ilagan ka at dati namimili ka ng hard to find grocery items sa Manila kasi nga hindi availabe sa Ilagan... ngayon wala nang problema.. readily available na lahat.

gatestar
April 9th, 2011, 06:55 AM
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SOON TO OPEN @ NORTHSTAR MALL
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296619
April 9th, 2011, 07:11 AM
Malaki ang CDR KING ILAGAN ng five times compared sa Santiago. Pero mas maraming sales sa Santi. Mag oopen na rin pala ang Genaros sa NorthStar Mall ;)

Mukhang hindi malinis ang floor ng Northstar

We usually don't buy meat and fish sa Savemore, kc hindi siya fresh. Luma na.

Ok nman ang Northstar so far, pero konti lng ang tao. Marami pa ring vacant, kaya i doubt kung mabibili mo na lahat dun. Yung isang section ng northstar pala, mga fake DVD/vcd ang benta. Diba bawal po yun?

Mas maganda ang design ng pamilihan arcade ng Santiago, sana ayusin ng city govt ang mga nakapalibot dun.

Mukhang kokonti lng din buyers sa napakaluwang na Savemore ilagan. At yung mga kainan sa foodcourt hindi ganoon kaayos kahit yung food.

Parang small version ng harison plaza ang northstar mall less the branded and expensive clothings and stores...

296619
April 9th, 2011, 07:41 AM
mag oopen na rin pla ang robinsons SUPERMARKET ILAGAN SOON! Hmm sino kaya ang lalangawin? Curious lng. Very imposible ang isang ROB Mall dyan. Better na gawin ng ILAGAN GOVT e improve nlng nila yung pamilihang bayan. Yan ang tamang gawin, hindi yung gawing rob mall daw which is not feasible.

b_two
April 9th, 2011, 09:00 AM
let us just clear the air here for a minute. This is not about santiago vs ilagan. We are posting developments being planned and undertaken in ilagan to let those interested to know what's happening in ilagan. What is good or bad for santiago may not be applicable in ilagan and the same goes in reverse. If indeed all those plans do come true, i am pretty sure that the developers have considered the economic viability of their projects considering the amount of investment. We should all be glad that more towns in isabela are being noticed by investors. May domino at multiplier effect ito kaya buong isabela makikinabang. :cheers:

296619
April 9th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Sa Cordon local govt. Bakit pati Buying Stations based sa Sntiago City e kailangang kumuha ng business permit at mgbayad ng tax sa inyo? E choice naman ng farmers niyo kung gusto nilang ibenta sa Santiago yung mga ani nila. Hindi nman makatarungan yun. Isang beses lng na pinakuha ng farmer yung palay niya sa Cordon e tataxan na ng napakalaki yung buyer? Mas malaki pa tax niyo kesa sa tubo ng buyer. Ireview niyo yang patakaran niyong yan. Gusto niyo atang ipromote ang monopoly sa lugar niyo e. Take note, choice ng farmer kung saan niya gustong ibenta ang palay niya. Nagmamagandang loob lng ang buyer na hakutin ang palay ng farmer. Business permit at business tax? Appropriate ba ang mga ito sa transaction na yun?

Pwede niyo bng basahin ang section 143 at 150 ng local govt code?

296619
April 9th, 2011, 12:35 PM
Kakaiba nman ang patakaran ng Cordon govt na yan. Ang pagkakaalam ko isang business permit bawat isang negosyo hindi isang business permit bawat truck. Ang negosyante pwedeng limang truck ang gamit, pero isang negosyo lng yun. Kya isang business permit lng dapat, hindi limang business permit sa isang negosyante.

At nakalagay sa LGC, Ang business tax ay ipapataw kung saan nangyari ang bentahan. (situs of taxation sec 150). Ang Cordon farmers ang pumupunta sa Santiago para dun nila ibenta ang ani nila! Pinapahakot lng nila ang palay nila. Grabe nman kayo, tax na nga sa Santiago tax pa sa Cordon! Business permit ay per negosyo hindi per truck! Ang business tax ay binabayaran kung saan nangyari ang bentahan!

Siguro may local official dyan sa Cordon na engaged sa buy and sell ng grains kaya gusto niyang imonopolyo ang buong cordon.

Sa city officials, pakicheck nman po kung makatarungan ang buwis na pinapataw ng Cordon sa mga legitimong negosyante ng Santiago.

296619
April 9th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Ang treasurer daw ng Cordon, iniisa isang puntahan mga buying station sa Santiago, at gusto nilang koletahan ng business permit bawat sasakyan ng negosyante kahit hindi nman ginagamit sa lugar nila.

b_two
April 9th, 2011, 02:01 PM
calm down, mga bossing. Whoever is posting: it would be better if you'll put your initials on each post so we'll know to whom we should reply. medyo weird kasi parang one name is discussing with the same name. Thanks.

isabela_gateway
April 9th, 2011, 02:36 PM
sana unahin na yung tulay. saan ba ang tawid nun? sa may sta. isabel ba papuntang mallig plains?

Good News!

04/08/11


DPWH STARTS CONSTRUCTION OF P712 - MILLION BRIDGE IN ISABELA

The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) has started the construction of the locally funded 500-meter Lullutan bridge along Ilagan - Delfin Albano - Mallig Road in Ilagan, Isabela costing P712 Million. DPWH Secretary Rogelio L. Singson said that the government has saved at least P38.8 Million in government funds from the approved budget for the contract (ABC) of P751 Million due to open competitive bidding done for the project. The bridge project, funded by the national government, is vital in the area because it is located along the arterial road in the Cagayan Valley region, said Singson. It is also expected to ensure the immediate delivery of farm produce to market and food processing areas in Metro Manila, thus, avoiding spoilage of said products, Secretary Singson said. The project’s scope of work includes the construction of 14 span steel H beam type bridge with composite slab supported with two (2) column pier resting on group bored piles foundation, and, approximately 1,173 meter length of PCCP approaches. The two-lane bridge project also includes the provision of drainage facilities with slope protection. The bridge project is under the supervision of DPWH - Urgent Bridges Construction Project for Rural Development-Project Management Office (UBCPRD-PMO).

Source: http://www.dpwh.gov.ph

gatestar
April 9th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Malaki ang CDR KING ILAGAN ng five times compared sa Santiago. Pero mas maraming sales sa Santi. Mag oopen na rin pala ang Genaros sa NorthStar Mall ;)

Mukhang hindi malinis ang floor ng Northstar

We usually don't buy meat and fish sa Savemore, kc hindi siya fresh. Luma na.

Ok nman ang Northstar so far, pero konti lng ang tao. Marami pa ring vacant, kaya i doubt kung mabibili mo na lahat dun. Yung isang section ng northstar pala, mga fake DVD/vcd ang benta. Diba bawal po yun?

Mas maganda ang design ng pamilihan arcade ng Santiago, sana ayusin ng city govt ang mga nakapalibot dun.

Mukhang kokonti lng din buyers sa napakaluwang na Savemore ilagan. At yung mga kainan sa foodcourt hindi ganoon kaayos kahit yung food.

Parang small version ng harison plaza ang northstar mall less the branded and expensive clothings and stores...

hahaha maraming tao sa Northstar Mall pag rush hour..

isabela_gateway
April 9th, 2011, 03:39 PM
hahaha maraming tao sa Northstar Mall pag rush hour..

Yap i agree, dahil may dumarayo na rin including students from other universities and colleges...

Perseus II
April 9th, 2011, 04:54 PM
calm down, mga bossing. Whoever is posting: it would be better if you'll put your initials on each post so we'll know to whom we should reply. medyo weird kasi parang one name is discussing with the same name. Thanks.

same here. got confused na :)

freightrunner
April 9th, 2011, 05:05 PM
Yup mas maganda kung magkanya-kanya sila ng account. Kaya pala maski noon parang halata na hindi same person ang kausap mo. Minsan parang nasa Isabela mismo yung nagpost pero alam naman natin na nasa Manila yung original na 296xxx dahil may klase. Hindi naman masama yung same account/multi-posters pero nakakalito po sa mga ibang forumers though not intentionally.

b_two
April 9th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Good News!

04/08/11


DPWH STARTS CONSTRUCTION OF P712 - MILLION BRIDGE IN ISABELA

The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) has started the construction of the locally funded 500-meter Lullutan bridge along Ilagan - Delfin Albano - Mallig Road in Ilagan, Isabela costing P712 Million. DPWH Secretary Rogelio L. Singson said that the government has saved at least P38.8 Million in government funds from the approved budget for the contract (ABC) of P751 Million due to open competitive bidding done for the project. The bridge project, funded by the national government, is vital in the area because it is located along the arterial road in the Cagayan Valley region, said Singson. It is also expected to ensure the immediate delivery of farm produce to market and food processing areas in Metro Manila, thus, avoiding spoilage of said products, Secretary Singson said. The project’s scope of work includes the construction of 14 span steel H beam type bridge with composite slab supported with two (2) column pier resting on group bored piles foundation, and, approximately 1,173 meter length of PCCP approaches. The two-lane bridge project also includes the provision of drainage facilities with slope protection. The bridge project is under the supervision of DPWH - Urgent Bridges Construction Project for Rural Development-Project Management Office (UBCPRD-PMO).

Source: http://www.dpwh.gov.ph

o di ba my source is credible? :) now it would be interesting to wait for the other half of my claim re: demolition of existing public market and supposed construction of an unknown mall. i may not be in favor of the new mall because of som personal reasons but if this project will make ilagan more progressive then so be it. :cheers:

PRPB
April 9th, 2011, 05:43 PM
o di ba my source is credible? :) now it would be interesting to wait for the other half of my claim re: demolition of existing public market and supposed construction of an unknown mall. i may not be in favor of the new mall because of som personal reasons but if this project will make ilagan more progressive then so be it. :cheers:

For sure pre... I still remember yung dating pwesto niyo diyan sa palengke.. Pag bumibili kami ng t-shirt eh suot muna bago bayad! hehe...

b_two
April 9th, 2011, 06:10 PM
hahaha... naalala ko yung chicago bulls na t-shirt hindi na binitawan ni chito. about sa palengke, meron na talaga formal talks between sa munisipyo at mga namamahala sa palengke. di ko lang sure kung kailan pero pinaguusapan talaga sa loob ng munisipyo sabi ng source ko. mahirap kasi magbigay ng date baka sumablay. :lol: pero yung sa tulay kumpirmado talaga yun.

b_two
April 9th, 2011, 06:27 PM
kay bossing gatestar, baka may mga pictures ka jan ng tinatayong empress garden hotel sa tabi ng northstar mall at yung development sa harap ng capitol paki-post naman. hehehe. thanks.:cheers:

PRPB
April 9th, 2011, 06:33 PM
hahaha... naalala ko yung chicago bulls na t-shirt hindi na binitawan ni chito. about sa palengke, meron na talaga formal talks between sa munisipyo at mga namamahala sa palengke. di ko lang sure kung kailan pero pinaguusapan talaga sa loob ng munisipyo sabi ng source ko. mahirap kasi magbigay ng date baka sumablay. :lol: pero yung sa tulay kumpirmado talaga yun.

Siya naman kasi ang may size nun eh, hehe... Uwi ako sa Ilagan sa Holy week, I will take pictures tapos post ko dito.

b_two
April 9th, 2011, 06:36 PM
^^^^

looking forward to your pictures. nakalimutan ko you are into photography din nga pala.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 12:27 AM
Rest time na siya. Mgbabar na yun. Sorry dahil tutok kami ngayon sa mga totoo at makabuluhang bagay.

About devt sa NorthStar, may pictures kami. Marami siguro ang tao pg rush hour, pero hindi ganoon karami sa inaasahan. About sa demolition sa palengke ng Ilagan, tama lng idemolish yan, palitan into a mall type pero anglabo atang Rob mall yun no? Hindi nman mglalagay ng negosyong malulugi ang lahat. Bababa ang presyo ng mga bilihin, good for the consumers siguro pero too bad for the investors, liit pa collection niyo sa tax.

We're just telling the truth.

Yung bagong sports complex sa Ilagan, mgstart na rin construction, pero yung iba proposed pa lng.

Yung devt sa North Star pinapatag plng ang lupa.

Kawawa nman ang ibang bayan ng Isabela, concentrated ang budget ng Isabela province sa Ilagan. Kaya pala nghihimutok ang Cauayan City, dahil walang provincial project sa kanila khit ng panahon pa ni Padaca.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 12:41 AM
Ok lng na isang account gamitin namin. For security, para matira namin ang mga tiwaling tao at mga one sided na decisions. Yung orig na 296619 na sinasabi niyo, wala na siya. Tapos na ho ang term niya.

As usual, maraming negosyo ang pumapasok sa buong Isabela. May RAI HOME narin sa Ilagan, Cauayan (main.), Santiago (depot- biggest).

May Yamaha Phil na rin sa Cauayan at Ilagan @ 1 each. 2branch sa Santiago. Maraming construction ngayon sa Ilagan kasama na yung mga govt funded. As usual maraming bagong buildings ang tinatayo sa Santiago pero wala pa yung mga govt funded, magsisimula plng daw.

Yung stop light sa Cauayan mukang may mali sa counting. Mas busy ho ang National highway kaya dapat hong ilaan niyo ang 60seconds go doon. Alam ko naintindihan niyo na ibig ko hong sabihin. Pakichek ulit yung clocking.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 12:59 AM
Tungkol sa lalangawin? Masakit pakinggan pero totoo yun. Ngayon pa nga lng kokonti ang tao sa Northstar, di tulad sa Inaasahan, paano a pg nagbukas ang Talavera na may Robinsons Supermarket. Tapos susundan pa ng Robinsons mall? Ang labo. Pahalagahan niyo nman ang investors.

Hindi namin kinukumpara Santiago sa Ilagan, dahil walang dapat ikumpara. Anglayo ng agwat. Lahat dun busy. Ok lng daw kahit hindi muna matuloy Rob sa Santiago dahil may lupa na sila dun.

antonbirakak
April 10th, 2011, 02:39 AM
Tungkol sa lalangawin? Masakit pakinggan pero totoo yun. Ngayon pa nga lng kokonti ang tao sa Northstar, di tulad sa Inaasahan, paano a pg nagbukas ang Talavera na may Robinsons Supermarket. Tapos susundan pa ng Robinsons mall? Ang labo. Pahalagahan niyo nman ang investors.

Hindi namin kinukumpara Santiago sa Ilagan, dahil walang dapat ikumpara. Anglayo ng agwat. Lahat dun busy. Ok lng daw kahit hindi muna matuloy Rob sa Santiago dahil may lupa na sila dun.

kaya kapatid, andun yun tinatawag na marketing strategy in putting the mall.. ang daling sabihin ang word na marketing but in applying it, mahirap talga, i must accept it kahit business course grad ako.. :)kung totoo ngang hindi nakakahatak ng parokyano ang northstar, it shows that they just built the mall to show some legacy for ilagan,isabela.. yes, malaki ang ilagan at malaki din ang population nila.. but you have to count the population di b.. what percentage of the population that would generate a greater attendance for the mall.. kaya minsan isipin din what area would most create a great number of buyers, in targeting your market.. im not saying santiago,cauayan or tuguegarao cities have the most number if we compare them from ilagan but, these cities have greater and potential number of customers for malls like northstar..

pero hindi naman basta basta ang northstar developer.. i think they have something in store to elevate.. hintayin natin, im sure may strategy sila..

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 06:43 AM
masyado namang negative si 29xxx sa mga projects sa ilagan. How can you be so sure na malulugi ang mga mall? Have you conducted any study regarding this matter to conclude that any mall development in ilagan will fail? Pashare naman jan kasi afaik northstar and talavera thinks otherwise. It would be better if you'll just be happy for ilaguenos for all the developments happening in their town. Do not underestimate the purchasing power of ilaguenos. Please do not agitate the thread by your bitterness.

gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 06:52 AM
Rest time na siya. Mgbabar na yun. Sorry dahil tutok kami ngayon sa mga totoo at makabuluhang bagay.

About devt sa NorthStar, may pictures kami. Marami siguro ang tao pg rush hour, pero hindi ganoon karami sa inaasahan. About sa demolition sa palengke ng Ilagan, tama lng idemolish yan, palitan into a mall type pero anglabo atang Rob mall yun no? Hindi nman mglalagay ng negosyong malulugi ang lahat. Bababa ang presyo ng mga bilihin, good for the consumers siguro pero too bad for the investors, liit pa collection niyo sa tax.

We're just telling the truth.

Yung bagong sports complex sa Ilagan, mgstart na rin construction, pero yung iba proposed pa lng.

Yung devt sa North Star pinapatag plng ang lupa.

Kawawa nman ang ibang bayan ng Isabela, concentrated ang budget ng Isabela province sa Ilagan. Kaya pala nghihimutok ang Cauayan City, dahil walang provincial project sa kanila khit ng panahon pa ni Padaca.

Syempre sa ilagan lng umaasa ang governor ng malaking boto eh.. d namn na bumoboto ang Santiago ng Governor

gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 06:57 AM
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April 10th, 2011, 07:04 AM
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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 07:06 AM
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April 10th, 2011, 07:17 AM
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lloydbenitez
April 10th, 2011, 07:22 AM
masyado namang negative si 29xxx sa mga projects sa ilagan. How can you be so sure na malulugi ang mga mall? Have you conducted any study regarding this matter to conclude that any mall development in ilagan will fail? Pashare naman jan kasi afaik northstar and talavera thinks otherwise. It would be better if you'll just be happy for ilaguenos for all the developments happening in their town. Do not underestimate the purchasing power of ilaguenos. Please do not agitate the thread by your bitterness.

uo nga nman. better kung maging happy na lang for ilagan. santiago and ilagan are in one province naman.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 07:22 AM
nice ang logo ng team isabela. Official ba yan?

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 07:33 AM
tuloy ba ang construction ng dam sa tumauini? any news about this?

gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 07:47 AM
uo nga nman. better kung maging happy na lang for ilagan. santiago and ilagan are in one province naman.

D sila happy sa ilagan halata... kasi gusto nila Santiago lang dapat hays.. kaya nga pang Santiago tong Forum na to eh Sabit lng ang Isabela

gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 07:48 AM
nice ang logo ng team isabela. Official ba yan?

opo sir official po

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 08:03 AM
astig yan sa t-shirt o kaya sa baseball cap.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 08:35 AM
Nakakatuwa naman, Btwo? Bitter? Sinong bitter? E kung gusto niyong mgdagdag ng outsider mall dyan, e di mgdagdag kayo. Concerned lng naman kami sa investor niyo. Siguradong may mghihingalo dyan. Yun lng yun. Hindi namin kinocompare ang Ilagan sa Santiago dahil kita nman kung saan mas asensado. Ang sa amin lang, huwag niyo nmang sakalin mga investors niyo. Na sasainyo yan. Kung mamasamain niyo, wala na kaming magagawa.

Tungkol sa mga proposed, hindi kami particular sa Ilagan lng. Kayo na rin nsgsabi, katagal nakatiwangwang yung tulay nyo.

At hindi ba naunang sinabit ni gatestar ang Robinsons sa Santiago? Talagang wala png construction dun siguro this year. Pero itong si gatestar ngconclude na. This is however beside the point.

Hindi kami negative sa Northstar at Talavera. Pro nga kami e, dahil ayaw naming makawawa investors nito. Hndi ba?

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 08:55 AM
paano naman sila nakakaawa? Do you honestly think that northstar will just let their php400+ million investment vanish into thin air? They see or know something that we don't hence the confidence in ilagan. I am sure that studies have been made to make sure that these investments will be beneficial to them. These are seasoned business people and i would like to believe that they are aware of their market and business. Imo ang robinsons o sm kahit itago mo yan sa barrio sa ilagan, cauayan, tumauini, santiago, o san guillermo dudumugin pa rin ng mga taga isabela yan. We don't need your concern kasi obviuos naman na may halong bitterness. I wish santiago, ilagan, and the whole isabela all the best.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 09:08 AM
and one more thing, paano mo naman nasabing sinasakal namin mga investors sa ilagan? Wala namang umiipit, pumupwersa, pumipilit o nananakot sa mga investors para mamuhunan sa ilagan. Everyone is welcome to invest in ilagan. Malawak pa ang lupain sa ilagan, merong coastline, may virgin forest, maraming government offices and employees, malaki ang population, stable ang economy, at malaki ang economic potential. I'm happy na umaangat na ulit ang ilagan.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 09:19 AM
haha... Sasakalin niyo ang northstar at talavera kung papasukin niyo ang robinsons dyan. Yun lng yun. Kaya nga ang proposed ng grupo nmin pagandahin niyo ang palengke niyo into mall type. Ikaw unang namersonal ha. Iniba lng nmin approach namin, sinasabi mo nang bitter kami. Bumalik ka kaya sa Isabela at ikaw ang tumingin at mag assess. Lahat ng lugar sa Isabela ina assess nmin, kahit Santiago. We are looking on all sides. Ayaw naming maging epokreto.

Huwag niyong sabihing sa Ilagan lng humahakot ng boto ang governor dahil sa Cauayan humakot ng husto at natalo si Padaca.


Take note hindi kami bitter dahil hindi na kami mgbibigay ng proposal kung wala kaming malasakit sa Ilagan. Kung ayaw mong tangapi, kawalan mo na yun hindi kami.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 09:20 AM
just be happy for ilagan and let demand, strategy, and competence decide on the fate of these investors, it is a free market after all. Kung kaya ng santiago ay kaya din ng ilagan, gayundin ng cauayan, cabagan at ng buong isabela. Wag nyong maliitin ang aming kakayahan. i rest my case.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 11:07 AM
We believe in the principle of moderation and we have to be factual and true to ourselves.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 11:34 AM
nobody is contradicting what you believe in as long as you don't impose it on anybody. we also have our own marching principles. ilagan is starting to move forward slowly since the early 2000's and the fruit of those struggles are starting to ripen one by one. looking forward to ilagan city.:cheers:

296619
April 10th, 2011, 12:42 PM
We are applying it to any city or town in Isabela. So one might be wrong when he/she accused us of bitterness!

Looking at one side alone is a downfall.

See our postings as a warning rather than a threat.

And please check the meaning of free market. There is no such thing a free market in the Philippines and more so that it is not applicable in certain matters specially when the discrepancy between the rich and the poor is heaven and earth. Go back and look for yourself. Do some reality check.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 01:16 PM
kami ba ang kailangang magreality check o kayo? You're not the only people in isabela capable of discerning between a good or a bad decision. Let the investors decide on the viability of their business in ilagan. That is the spirit of a free market economy. Honestly, between what you know and what the ilagan investors know about the business climate in ilagan... i will bet my "bissing-talapi-pesu" on the latter. You hate the word bitter but try to ask other forumers about your previous posts and they'll probably agree that those posts are concrete examples of bitterness. I'm moving on with this... :cheers:

296619
April 10th, 2011, 01:40 PM
Tama nga ang sabi ng iba pag talo sa argument titirahin personally. One concrete example ang ginawa mo. Don't judge kung ikaw wala kang alam. Go back to the Philippines and say it your own. Siguro nga wala kaming kakayahang tumingin sa tulad ng gusto mong ipahiwatig, pero mas nakikita ng mga mata namin angkatotohanan kesa sayo. Open market ba ang ginagawa ng konseho ng Ilagan halimbawa sa pag approve o paghikayat sa isang negosyante hal. May pakekeelam.

Wala kaming pinersonal dito until you judged us personally.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 01:51 PM
mga bossing, get over it. Basta kami happy sa nangyayari sa ilagan at yun ang importante.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 01:51 PM
Halos araw araw kaming naglilibot sa Isabela, nakikita namin ang pagbabago. Nakikita rin namin ang abusado. Kami bilang Isabelino ay ginagamit din namin ang judgement namin para masabing one sided ang mga decision, unfair, unjust ang mga namumuno. May karapatan kaming ibulalas ang mga karaingan namin ng walang tinitirang forumer dito. Maliban nalng kung tirahin kami personally. Manatili sa usapan, huwag ilihis at tirahin ang katauhan.

Nakikita namin ang pagtayo ng mga mall na yan. Ngunit kaming matagal nang negosyante'y dapat tulungan. Darating ang araw, kami'y isang alipin lamang dahil mghahari ang mangilan ilan. Sa ngayon palang iilan lamang ang may kapangyarihan, paano na kung ang munting pagmamayari namin ay unti unting makakamkam.

Ang kailangan namin ay mga daanan, bahay at pagkain. Tubig at elektrisidad. Huwag niyo kamng pagrentahin sa napakamahal na silid dahil sa mga ilang malls palang hirap na kami.

Pagandahin niyo ang aming silid huwag niyo kaming pagrentahin ng napakamahal.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 01:54 PM
Happy kami sa development hindi lng sa Ilagan kundi sa buong probinya ng Isabela. Sad kami sa mga abusado at pahirap!

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 02:11 PM
you are barking at the wrong tree. Walang forumer dito na gusto ng abuso, paghihirap, at maling gawain. Just because we do not agree on some things it doesn't mean we cannot agree on other things. Stop being so negative and look at the bright side. If you really want to make a difference then go directly to the agency or office that could help you in your crusades. We love isabela as much as you do so stop nagging us with your negativities.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 02:20 PM
walang namemersonal sa inyo dito. Guni guni nyo lang yun. Pakibalikan nyo ang lahat ng post ko at intindihin nyong mabuti kasi wala sa bokabularyo ko ang mamersonal. This is a forum so if you cannot accept the fact that other people may have a different opinion anjan naman ang ignore option so you won't be able to see what they are posting. Wag nyong gawing kumplikado ang buhay nyo. Peace. :cheers:

296619
April 10th, 2011, 02:53 PM
we're not barking at you. Ikaw lng naman ang feeling threatened e. Anong tawag mo sa judgement mo sa amin na bitter kami, hindi ba comment mo yun sa aming personalidad? Hindi lng ikaw ang nagbabasa ng forum dito, marami sila. Sobrang natakot nga yung iba at ipahanap pa yung isa sa amin. Ngayon, kung gusto mong kumampi sa kanila, panindigan mo. Bumalik ka sa Isabela para malaman mo ang sinasabi namin.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Sayo na nanggaling, forum ito, so kung hindi mo maaccept ang sinasabi namin about Ilagan e huwag mo kaming husgahan. Iprove mo na mali kami hindi yung sinasabi mong bitter kami kaya nasasabi namin yun. Malinaw yun. Huwag mong iibahin nanaman. Bumalik ka nlng kasi para makita mo.

william :D
April 10th, 2011, 03:03 PM
long time no post.:)

Cooperative office grants P2.8 M interest-free loans

by Merlito G. Edale
ILAGAN, Isabela, April 10 (PIA)—The provincial government of Isabela through the Provincial Cooperative Office (PCO) recently granted P2.822 million interest-free loan to cooperatives and individuals here.
Governor Faustino G. Dy III said the loan, which will be released through the PCO is a component of the Bojie-Rodito Opportunities (BRO), a priority program of the present administration aimed at improving the services of the provincial government in agriculture, education, health, environment and livelihood.
Governor Dy stressed that the loan is open to all cooperatives operating in the province which have good financial standing and duly registered at the Provincial Cooperative Office.
Dy likewise said, the loan program is also open to Isabelinos who belong to the indigent sector to give them opportunities to start small businesses such as barbecue and fishball vending, sari-sari stores, hog fattening and mini carinderias. “They should present a certification from the Department of Social Welfare and Development as a proof that they are indigent,” Dy explained.
Dy believes that by giving interest-free loan to the cooperatives, they will be able to give better service to their members which will redound to the improvement of their living conditions.
Aside from the interest-free loan, the provincial government has also purchased three units of portable mechanical grains dryer and is again planning to buy another five units to be dispatched to the cooperatives in the province.
http://pia.gov.ph/?m=7&r=r02&id=26887

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 03:16 PM
Sayo na nanggaling, forum ito, so kung hindi mo maaccept ang sinasabi namin about Ilagan e huwag mo kaming husgahan. Iprove mo na mali kami hindi yung sinasabi mong bitter kami kaya nasasabi namin yun. Malinaw yun. Huwag mong iibahin nanaman. Bumalik ka nlng kasi para makita mo.
why would i be threatened? Ikaw ang kung ano ano sinasabi. Ano ba kailangan ko patunayan sayo e wala ka namang point? Hindi nyo na nga alam sinasabi nyo kasi kung ano ano na ipinopost nyo. Kung sinuman ang nagpopost sa 29xxx basahin nyo lahat ng post kasi ang gulo nyo na. please lang umayos kayo dahil ayaw namin malock itong thread dahil sa mga walang kwentang istorya balatong. I miss the old 29xxx.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Nice program. Hopefully makatulong talaga ito sa mga kapwa mahihirap. Hopefully maexecute ito ng maayos.

Para sa isang good forumer, ok mas magiging mahinahon na kami. Pero hindi namin tatantanan ang mga tiwali at dapat ay pansinin.

Yung mayor dyan, nagooperate daw ng jueteng. Sumbong ng mga kabo.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 03:41 PM
B_two ikaw unang tumira sa amin. Hindi mo maaccept yung mga post namin about projects sa Ilagan. Sinabihan mo kaming bitter pero ok lng yun sa amin. We're just proving na mali yung inakala mo dahil hindi lang projects o pangyayari sa Ilagan ang kinokomentohan namin. inaacknowlede namin ang developments pero punupuna rin namin ang kapuna puna. Binibigay lang din namin ang other side of the coin para matimbang nang mabuti ang mga bagay bagay.

william :D
April 10th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Nice program. Hopefully makatulong talaga ito sa mga kapwa mahihirap. Hopefully maexecute ito ng maayos.

Para sa isang good forumer, ok mas magiging mahinahon na kami. Pero hindi namin tatantanan ang mga tiwali at dapat ay pansinin.

Yung mayor dyan, nagooperate daw ng jueteng. Sumbong ng mga kabo.

nabasa ko yan bago niyo mapalitan mga sir. hahaha, paki-abot ang aking pasasalamat kay sir rod! :) alam ko namang maganda ang intensyon niyo sa thread na to, suportado ko kayo! :banana: :banana:

about sa mayor, anong bayan/city ba? Santiago City ba? siguro nga mabuti kung may mag-rereport basta may matibay na ebidensya na maipapakita. mahirap pumasok sa gyera ng walang armas.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Hindi kami magaatubiling magkomento sa mga tiwaling opisyal na supeficial lng ang mga pinapalabas. Tulad ng sinabi mo dati, bantay salakay.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 03:52 PM
At willy, natumpak mo. Oo sa Stgo, kapitbahay daw ng mayor ang bolahan sabi ng mga kabo.

Wala na si Sir Rod e. kaya tinutuloy nlng namin ito. Hindi kami kasinghinahon nun. Puro magaganda ang pinapakita. Gusto rin naming ipakita yung ibang pangyayari lalo na yung mga katiwalian. Baka sakaling makita rin ng iba.

Sa mga hindi magustuhan, ok lng sa amin, basta wala kaming masagasaang forumer. Pasensya nlng sa mga unang pananalita namin. Maganda na rin sigurong intro yun. Baka sa susunod na mga post namin may mga video na kami at larawan.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 03:57 PM
hindi paninira yung sinabi kong bitterness, that is the general sentiment of those forumer from ilagan who sent me personal messages after reading your posts. Suggestion ko basahin nyo ang mga post para makita nyo. Hinding hindi ako nag iba ng topic at hinding hindi ko ililigaw ang sinuman, malinaw ang post ko mula umpisa is about ilagan's developments at hindi ako umalis sa topic na yan. Guni guni nyo lang yang pamemersonal. Mas mabuti pa siguro kung maghiwa hiwalay kayo ng account para hindi ganito kagulo ang usapan.

william :D
April 10th, 2011, 04:08 PM
At willy, natumpak mo. Oo sa Stgo, kapitbahay daw ng mayor ang bolahan sabi ng mga kabo.

Wala na si Sir Rod e. kaya tinutuloy nlng namin ito. Hindi kami kasinghinahon nun. Puro magaganda ang pinapakita. Gusto rin naming ipakita yung ibang pangyayari lalo na yung mga katiwalian. Baka sakaling makita rin ng iba.

Sa mga hindi magustuhan, ok lng sa amin, basta wala kaming masagasaang forumer. Pasensya nlng sa mga unang pananalita namin. Maganda na rin sigurong intro yun. Baka sa susunod na mga post namin may mga video na kami at larawan.

may nakabanggit na kasi nyang bolahan ng jueteng na yan samin before na katabi daw ng bahay mismo ng mayor ng Santiago.. hindi naman kayo pwede magreport sa city hall, delikado, kahit siguro sa kapitolyo niyo delikado kasi baka maraming galamay si mayor don. siguro maganda magreport sa Manila? or sa mga TV Programs kagaya ng XXX at Imbestigador. anong sangay ba ng gobyerno ang dapat lapitan? DILG?

296619
April 10th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Responsible kami sa post namin. Responsible kami sa post namin. Hindi kami maghihiwahiwalay. May reason kami kaya ganito setup namin. Sa debate, personal parin ang ginawa mo. Pinapalabas mo na gawa gawa lng namin ang mga comments namin. Kung baga bugso ng bitterness kaya kami ngkokomento ng ganoon. Totoo yung comments namin. Hindi ka namin pinipilit na maniwala. Hindi lng naman ikaw ang viewer. May mas dapat makabasa ng mga iyon.

Nagcomment ka about bitterness, niligaw mo parin. Dapat mgpakita ka ng prueba na hindi totoo comment namin about some moves sa Ilagan. Kung concerned ka sa post namin, bumalik ka nga sa Isabela at tignan mo.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 04:23 PM
as per request. With all respect to btwo. Just want you to know na hindi nmin kinocompare ang Santiago sa Ilagan o Cauayan. Siguro comparison to motivate productivity. Hindi rin kami bitter ho. At lalong hindi kami ngpopost dito sa bugso lng ng bitterness. Totoo lahat ng post namin dito.

Isipin niyo nlng yung positibong bagay na may tumutuligsa sa mga maling gawain at decision. Yun lng. Wala kaming tinitirang forumer dito.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Talamak ang jueteng sa buong Isabela. Ipinagbabawal ng batas ang illegal gambling. Paano kami susunod sa mga ordinansa kung ang leader namin hindi marunong sumunod sa batas?

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Responsible kami sa post namin. Responsible kami sa post namin. Hindi kami maghihiwahiwalay. May reason kami kaya ganito setup namin. Sa debate, personal parin ang ginawa mo. Pinapalabas mo na gawa gawa lng namin ang mga comments namin. Kung baga bugso ng bitterness kaya kami ngkokomento ng ganoon. Totoo yung comments namin. Hindi ka namin pinipilit na maniwala. Hindi lng naman ikaw ang viewer. May mas dapat makabasa ng mga iyon.

Nagcomment ka about bitterness, niligaw mo parin. Dapat mgpakita ka ng prueba na hindi totoo comment namin about some moves sa Ilagan. Kung concerned ka sa post namin, bumalik ka nga sa Isabela at tignan mo.


i don't need to go back to the philippines to know what is going on in isabela and particularly ilagan. hindi nyo alam kung ano ang mga pinagsasasabi nyo. anong pruweba ang gusto mong ilabas ko? may binanggit ba kayong issue? basahin nga ninyo ang mga post ko at mga reply nyo sa mga ito para malaman nyo kung gaano kagulo ang mga comment ninyo.

paano naging panliligaw yung bitterness issue? e yun ang tingin namin sa comment mo or nyo or kung sino man kayo.

kayo ang mag-stay sa totoong purpose nitong thread na ito. this is all about the developments in santiago city and isabela. kung anumang personal na issue meron kayo you should address it by going to the proper authorities hindi yung dito sa ssc. ano ang mangyayari sa pag-expose nyo dito? ano pa bang alam nyo ang hindi pa namin alam about what's happening in isabela? jueteng? corruption? illegal logging? hindi kami pinanganak kahapon lang. kung talagang concerned kayo mag-file kayo ng kaso.

konting paalala lang ulit, ang forum na ito ng skyscrapercity ay para sa mga developments sa santiago city at isabela.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 05:23 PM
Responsible kami sa post namin. Responsible kami sa post namin. Hindi kami maghihiwahiwalay. May reason kami kaya ganito setup namin. Sa debate, personal parin ang ginawa mo. Pinapalabas mo na gawa gawa lng namin ang mga comments namin. Kung baga bugso ng bitterness kaya kami ngkokomento ng ganoon. Totoo yung comments namin. Hindi ka namin pinipilit na maniwala. Hindi lng naman ikaw ang viewer. May mas dapat makabasa ng mga iyon.

Nagcomment ka about bitterness, niligaw mo parin. Dapat mgpakita ka ng prueba na hindi totoo comment namin about some moves sa Ilagan. Kung concerned ka sa post namin, bumalik ka nga sa Isabela at tignan mo.


now quote any of my post where i made it appear na nag-iimbento kayo ng salita.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 05:29 PM
masyado namang negative si 29xxx sa mga projects sa ilagan. How can you be so sure na malulugi ang mga mall? Have you conducted any study regarding this matter to conclude that any mall development in ilagan will fail? Pashare naman jan kasi afaik northstar and talavera thinks otherwise. It would be better if you'll just be happy for ilaguenos for all the developments happening in their town. Do not underestimate the purchasing power of ilaguenos. Please do not agitate the thread by your bitterness.

paano naman sila nakakaawa? Do you honestly think that northstar will just let their php400+ million investment vanish into thin air? They see or know something that we don't hence the confidence in ilagan. I am sure that studies have been made to make sure that these investments will be beneficial to them. These are seasoned business people and i would like to believe that they are aware of their market and business. Imo ang robinsons o sm kahit itago mo yan sa barrio sa ilagan, cauayan, tumauini, santiago, o san guillermo dudumugin pa rin ng mga taga isabela yan. We don't need your concern kasi obviuos naman na may halong bitterness. I wish santiago, ilagan, and the whole isabela all the best.

and one more thing, paano mo naman nasabing sinasakal namin mga investors sa ilagan? Wala namang umiipit, pumupwersa, pumipilit o nananakot sa mga investors para mamuhunan sa ilagan. Everyone is welcome to invest in ilagan. Malawak pa ang lupain sa ilagan, merong coastline, may virgin forest, maraming government offices and employees, malaki ang population, stable ang economy, at malaki ang economic potential. I'm happy na umaangat na ulit ang ilagan.

just be happy for ilagan and let demand, strategy, and competence decide on the fate of these investors, it is a free market after all. Kung kaya ng santiago ay kaya din ng ilagan, gayundin ng cauayan, cabagan at ng buong isabela. Wag nyong maliitin ang aming kakayahan. i rest my case.

nobody is contradicting what you believe in as long as you don't impose it on anybody. we also have our own marching principles. ilagan is starting to move forward slowly since the early 2000's and the fruit of those struggles are starting to ripen one by one. looking forward to ilagan city.:cheers:

kami ba ang kailangang magreality check o kayo? You're not the only people in isabela capable of discerning between a good or a bad decision. Let the investors decide on the viability of their business in ilagan. That is the spirit of a free market economy. Honestly, between what you know and what the ilagan investors know about the business climate in ilagan... i will bet my "bissing-talapi-pesu" on the latter. You hate the word bitter but try to ask other forumers about your previous posts and they'll probably agree that those posts are concrete examples of bitterness. I'm moving on with this... :cheers:

mga bossing, get over it. Basta kami happy sa nangyayari sa ilagan at yun ang importante.

you are barking at the wrong tree. Walang forumer dito na gusto ng abuso, paghihirap, at maling gawain. Just because we do not agree on some things it doesn't mean we cannot agree on other things. Stop being so negative and look at the bright side. If you really want to make a difference then go directly to the agency or office that could help you in your crusades. We love isabela as much as you do so stop nagging us with your negativities.

walang namemersonal sa inyo dito. Guni guni nyo lang yun. Pakibalikan nyo ang lahat ng post ko at intindihin nyong mabuti kasi wala sa bokabularyo ko ang mamersonal. This is a forum so if you cannot accept the fact that other people may have a different opinion anjan naman ang ignore option so you won't be able to see what they are posting. Wag nyong gawing kumplikado ang buhay nyo. Peace. :cheers:

why would i be threatened? Ikaw ang kung ano ano sinasabi. Ano ba kailangan ko patunayan sayo e wala ka namang point? Hindi nyo na nga alam sinasabi nyo kasi kung ano ano na ipinopost nyo. Kung sinuman ang nagpopost sa 29xxx basahin nyo lahat ng post kasi ang gulo nyo na. please lang umayos kayo dahil ayaw namin malock itong thread dahil sa mga walang kwentang istorya balatong. I miss the old 29xxx.

hindi paninira yung sinabi kong bitterness, that is the general sentiment of those forumer from ilagan who sent me personal messages after reading your posts. Suggestion ko basahin nyo ang mga post para makita nyo. Hinding hindi ako nag iba ng topic at hinding hindi ko ililigaw ang sinuman, malinaw ang post ko mula umpisa is about ilagan's developments at hindi ako umalis sa topic na yan. Guni guni nyo lang yang pamemersonal. Mas mabuti pa siguro kung maghiwa hiwalay kayo ng account para hindi ganito kagulo ang usapan.


ayan basahin nyo ang mga post ko

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 05:33 PM
and these are your comments.


Mukhang malabo ang Robinsons mall sa Ilagan dahil may Northstar mall na housing Savemore at Talavera Mall which will house Robinsons Supermarket.

About yung mga plans and designs posted, hindi kaya marketing strat lng yan ng archi? Hanggat hindi yan approbado ng council, wala lng yan. Hangang plan lng. O kahit na approved na kung walang construction, wala din.

Sana matuloy lahat niyan para ok... :)

at PRPB and gatestar... Ok! Atleast you cleared one thing.


For sure, that won't be good for Ilagan's small economy kung itatayo yan ngayon o next year. Magiging saturated na kayo ng malls. Don't get hurt. I'm just telling a fact. Decision niyo nman yan. Good luck to people of Ilagan...

Naexperience ko na yang mga talk na yan. Maraming plans. Its better for you guys to wait!

Lastly, sa mga taong nasa konseho o may pusisyon sa gobyerno, gawin niyo ho ang trabaho niyo lalo na ang mga pinapangako niyo sa taong bayan. Huwag niyo kaming paaasahin. Kung 2015 o 2020 pa itatayo ang proyekto niyo, madi yu iwaragawag tatta!

Sa mga forumers dito na empleyado ng gobyerno, iparating niyo yan sa mga boss niyo sa opisina!

Huwag niyong icredit sa sarili niyo ang hindi pa nagagawa!

At, tulad ng sabi ni btwo, huwag maging bantay salakay!

Malaki ang CDR KING ILAGAN ng five times compared sa Santiago. Pero mas maraming sales sa Santi. Mag oopen na rin pala ang Genaros sa NorthStar Mall ;)

Mukhang hindi malinis ang floor ng Northstar

We usually don't buy meat and fish sa Savemore, kc hindi siya fresh. Luma na.

Ok nman ang Northstar so far, pero konti lng ang tao. Marami pa ring vacant, kaya i doubt kung mabibili mo na lahat dun. Yung isang section ng northstar pala, mga fake DVD/vcd ang benta. Diba bawal po yun?

Mas maganda ang design ng pamilihan arcade ng Santiago, sana ayusin ng city govt ang mga nakapalibot dun.

Mukhang kokonti lng din buyers sa napakaluwang na Savemore ilagan. At yung mga kainan sa foodcourt hindi ganoon kaayos kahit yung food.

Parang small version ng harison plaza ang northstar mall less the branded and expensive clothings and stores...

mag oopen na rin pla ang robinsons SUPERMARKET ILAGAN SOON! Hmm sino kaya ang lalangawin? Curious lng. Very imposible ang isang ROB Mall dyan. Better na gawin ng ILAGAN GOVT e improve nlng nila yung pamilihang bayan. Yan ang tamang gawin, hindi yung gawing rob mall daw which is not feasible.

Sa Cordon local govt. Bakit pati Buying Stations based sa Sntiago City e kailangang kumuha ng business permit at mgbayad ng tax sa inyo? E choice naman ng farmers niyo kung gusto nilang ibenta sa Santiago yung mga ani nila. Hindi nman makatarungan yun. Isang beses lng na pinakuha ng farmer yung palay niya sa Cordon e tataxan na ng napakalaki yung buyer? Mas malaki pa tax niyo kesa sa tubo ng buyer. Ireview niyo yang patakaran niyong yan. Gusto niyo atang ipromote ang monopoly sa lugar niyo e. Take note, choice ng farmer kung saan niya gustong ibenta ang palay niya. Nagmamagandang loob lng ang buyer na hakutin ang palay ng farmer. Business permit at business tax? Appropriate ba ang mga ito sa transaction na yun?

Pwede niyo bng basahin ang section 143 at 150 ng local govt code?

Ang treasurer daw ng Cordon, iniisa isang puntahan mga buying station sa Santiago, at gusto nilang koletahan ng business permit bawat sasakyan ng negosyante kahit hindi nman ginagamit sa lugar nila.

Rest time na siya. Mgbabar na yun. Sorry dahil tutok kami ngayon sa mga totoo at makabuluhang bagay.

About devt sa NorthStar, may pictures kami. Marami siguro ang tao pg rush hour, pero hindi ganoon karami sa inaasahan. About sa demolition sa palengke ng Ilagan, tama lng idemolish yan, palitan into a mall type pero anglabo atang Rob mall yun no? Hindi nman mglalagay ng negosyong malulugi ang lahat. Bababa ang presyo ng mga bilihin, good for the consumers siguro pero too bad for the investors, liit pa collection niyo sa tax.

We're just telling the truth.

Yung bagong sports complex sa Ilagan, mgstart na rin construction, pero yung iba proposed pa lng.

Yung devt sa North Star pinapatag plng ang lupa.

Kawawa nman ang ibang bayan ng Isabela, concentrated ang budget ng Isabela province sa Ilagan. Kaya pala nghihimutok ang Cauayan City, dahil walang provincial project sa kanila khit ng panahon pa ni Padaca.

Ok lng na isang account gamitin namin. For security, para matira namin ang mga tiwaling tao at mga one sided na decisions. Yung orig na 296619 na sinasabi niyo, wala na siya. Tapos na ho ang term niya.

As usual, maraming negosyo ang pumapasok sa buong Isabela. May RAI HOME narin sa Ilagan, Cauayan (main.), Santiago (depot- biggest).

May Yamaha Phil na rin sa Cauayan at Ilagan @ 1 each. 2branch sa Santiago. Maraming construction ngayon sa Ilagan kasama na yung mga govt funded. As usual maraming bagong buildings ang tinatayo sa Santiago pero wala pa yung mga govt funded, magsisimula plng daw.

Yung stop light sa Cauayan mukang may mali sa counting. Mas busy ho ang National highway kaya dapat hong ilaan niyo ang 60seconds go doon. Alam ko naintindihan niyo na ibig ko hong sabihin. Pakichek ulit yung clocking.

Tungkol sa lalangawin? Masakit pakinggan pero totoo yun. Ngayon pa nga lng kokonti ang tao sa Northstar, di tulad sa Inaasahan, paano a pg nagbukas ang Talavera na may Robinsons Supermarket. Tapos susundan pa ng Robinsons mall? Ang labo. Pahalagahan niyo nman ang investors.

Hindi namin kinukumpara Santiago sa Ilagan, dahil walang dapat ikumpara. Anglayo ng agwat. Lahat dun busy. Ok lng daw kahit hindi muna matuloy Rob sa Santiago dahil may lupa na sila dun.

Nakakatuwa naman, Btwo? Bitter? Sinong bitter? E kung gusto niyong mgdagdag ng outsider mall dyan, e di mgdagdag kayo. Concerned lng naman kami sa investor niyo. Siguradong may mghihingalo dyan. Yun lng yun. Hindi namin kinocompare ang Ilagan sa Santiago dahil kita nman kung saan mas asensado. Ang sa amin lang, huwag niyo nmang sakalin mga investors niyo. Na sasainyo yan. Kung mamasamain niyo, wala na kaming magagawa.

Tungkol sa mga proposed, hindi kami particular sa Ilagan lng. Kayo na rin nsgsabi, katagal nakatiwangwang yung tulay nyo.

At hindi ba naunang sinabit ni gatestar ang Robinsons sa Santiago? Talagang wala png construction dun siguro this year. Pero itong si gatestar ngconclude na. This is however beside the point.

Hindi kami negative sa Northstar at Talavera. Pro nga kami e, dahil ayaw naming makawawa investors nito. Hndi ba?

haha... Sasakalin niyo ang northstar at talavera kung papasukin niyo ang robinsons dyan. Yun lng yun. Kaya nga ang proposed ng grupo nmin pagandahin niyo ang palengke niyo into mall type. Ikaw unang namersonal ha. Iniba lng nmin approach namin, sinasabi mo nang bitter kami. Bumalik ka kaya sa Isabela at ikaw ang tumingin at mag assess. Lahat ng lugar sa Isabela ina assess nmin, kahit Santiago. We are looking on all sides. Ayaw naming maging epokreto.

Huwag niyong sabihing sa Ilagan lng humahakot ng boto ang governor dahil sa Cauayan humakot ng husto at natalo si Padaca.


Take note hindi kami bitter dahil hindi na kami mgbibigay ng proposal kung wala kaming malasakit sa Ilagan. Kung ayaw mong tangapi, kawalan mo na yun hindi kami.

We believe in the principle of moderation and we have to be factual and true to ourselves.

We are applying it to any city or town in Isabela. So one might be wrong when he/she accused us of bitterness!

Looking at one side alone is a downfall.

See our postings as a warning rather than a threat.

And please check the meaning of free market. There is no such thing a free market in the Philippines and more so that it is not applicable in certain matters specially when the discrepancy between the rich and the poor is heaven and earth. Go back and look for yourself. Do some reality check.

Tama nga ang sabi ng iba pag talo sa argument titirahin personally. One concrete example ang ginawa mo. Don't judge kung ikaw wala kang alam. Go back to the Philippines and say it your own. Siguro nga wala kaming kakayahang tumingin sa tulad ng gusto mong ipahiwatig, pero mas nakikita ng mga mata namin angkatotohanan kesa sayo. Open market ba ang ginagawa ng konseho ng Ilagan halimbawa sa pag approve o paghikayat sa isang negosyante hal. May pakekeelam.

Wala kaming pinersonal dito until you judged us personally.

Halos araw araw kaming naglilibot sa Isabela, nakikita namin ang pagbabago. Nakikita rin namin ang abusado. Kami bilang Isabelino ay ginagamit din namin ang judgement namin para masabing one sided ang mga decision, unfair, unjust ang mga namumuno. May karapatan kaming ibulalas ang mga karaingan namin ng walang tinitirang forumer dito. Maliban nalng kung tirahin kami personally. Manatili sa usapan, huwag ilihis at tirahin ang katauhan.

Nakikita namin ang pagtayo ng mga mall na yan. Ngunit kaming matagal nang negosyante'y dapat tulungan. Darating ang araw, kami'y isang alipin lamang dahil mghahari ang mangilan ilan. Sa ngayon palang iilan lamang ang may kapangyarihan, paano na kung ang munting pagmamayari namin ay unti unting makakamkam.

Ang kailangan namin ay mga daanan, bahay at pagkain. Tubig at elektrisidad. Huwag niyo kamng pagrentahin sa napakamahal na silid dahil sa mga ilang malls palang hirap na kami.

Pagandahin niyo ang aming silid huwag niyo kaming pagrentahin ng napakamahal.

Happy kami sa development hindi lng sa Ilagan kundi sa buong probinya ng Isabela. Sad kami sa mga abusado at pahirap!

we're not barking at you. Ikaw lng naman ang feeling threatened e. Anong tawag mo sa judgement mo sa amin na bitter kami, hindi ba comment mo yun sa aming personalidad? Hindi lng ikaw ang nagbabasa ng forum dito, marami sila. Sobrang natakot nga yung iba at ipahanap pa yung isa sa amin. Ngayon, kung gusto mong kumampi sa kanila, panindigan mo. Bumalik ka sa Isabela para malaman mo ang sinasabi namin.

Sayo na nanggaling, forum ito, so kung hindi mo maaccept ang sinasabi namin about Ilagan e huwag mo kaming husgahan. Iprove mo na mali kami hindi yung sinasabi mong bitter kami kaya nasasabi namin yun. Malinaw yun. Huwag mong iibahin nanaman. Bumalik ka nlng kasi para makita mo.

Nice program. Hopefully makatulong talaga ito sa mga kapwa mahihirap. Hopefully maexecute ito ng maayos.

Para sa isang good forumer, ok mas magiging mahinahon na kami. Pero hindi namin tatantanan ang mga tiwali at dapat ay pansinin.

Yung mayor dyan, nagooperate daw ng jueteng. Sumbong ng mga kabo.


sino ngayon ang paiba-iba at namemersonal?

296619
April 10th, 2011, 05:57 PM
ang sagot "ikaw" . Buti nman binold mo yung diretsong tira mo sa amin. Hindi ka namin sinasabihan ng kung ano. Binibigay namin mga komento namin sa mga proyekto at pangyayari, pero ikaw sinasabihan mo kaming bitter. Isa ka ba sa mga pulitikong tiwali kaya ka natatamaan? Basahin mo nga at tanungin mo sarili mo kung tamang husgaan mo kaming bitter. Hindi mo ba alam na mas may matinding akusasyon ang salita mong "bitter"? Patas ang mga komentong binitawan namin, at higit sa lahat ay totoo. Pero ikaw binabahiran mo ng bitterness mga post namin. Kung hindi ka sangayon e di sabihin mo mga points mo, hindi yung sasabihin mong bitter kami.

296619
April 10th, 2011, 06:04 PM
May mga post kami dyan na hindi para sa Ilagan lamang kundi para sa lahat ng pulitiko. Bato bato nlng sa langit. At higit sa lahat hindi patama sa isang forumer. Hindi namin hinuhusgahan ang pagkatao ng isang forumer dito.

Baka tanungin mo pa yung pagtira namin sa pulitiko. Remember tayo ang boss nila, may karapatan kaming sitahin ang nakikita naming tiwali. At may mga prueba kami kung bakit nasasabi namin yun. Bato bato sa langit. Tulad din ng nababangit mo. Bantay salakay.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 06:15 PM
the old 29xxx will never agitate this thread because he really loves this thread. he knows very well the rules in these forum and i believe he won't post anything that could possibly lead to this thread's closure. whoever you are just stick to the thread's original purpose.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 06:18 PM
my bad... i should have not fed the troll.:)

296619
April 10th, 2011, 07:01 PM
Babalik din daw si sir "old" 296619 kung tapos na siya sa pagaaral niya. Iniba na namin password dito, kaya hindi niya na to maaccess. Huwag kang magalala b_two hindi ito masasara. Wala namang matindi dito. Sa economy thread nga nagpepersonalan na yung iba at tinitira nila mga pulitiko tulad ni GMA AT PNOY. Pwede naman sigurong punahin ang mga tiwaling opisyales ng hindi sinisira ang isang forumer at pangalan ng Isabela.

Magiging fair naman kami sa post namin.

Sige, sa uulitin.

b_two
April 10th, 2011, 07:26 PM
our very own wendy lucas failed to win any crown in the bb. pilipinas pageant nevertheless i'm still proud of her achievements. :cheers:

gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 09:53 PM
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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 09:59 PM
PAK U ALL... VIVA ISABELA!!!

gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 10:04 PM
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April 10th, 2011, 10:05 PM
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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 10:05 PM
LANDSCAPE OF SAN AGUSTIN

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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 10:06 PM
HONEYMOON ISLAND DIVILICAN


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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 10:06 PM
ST FERDINAND PARISH

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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 10:07 PM
THE GIANT BUTAKA

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GUIBANG

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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 10:08 PM
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gatestar
April 10th, 2011, 10:12 PM
ROXAS COLISEUM

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MGAT DAM RAMON, ISABELA

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DINAPIGUE, ISABELA
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SANTIAGO CITY
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JONES

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April 10th, 2011, 10:15 PM
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April 10th, 2011, 10:21 PM
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b_two
April 10th, 2011, 10:35 PM
nice set of pix you got there, bro. thanks.:cheers:

296619
April 11th, 2011, 12:31 AM
Nice pictures. Pero mukang may siningit na minatigas na bad word. Sayang perfect sana. Good pics anyway.

296619
April 11th, 2011, 12:37 AM
We have pictures of entire Isabela. May kaaya aya at di kaayaya. We can post them both if we want, pero request na magaganda lang daw. We will comply anyway.

Thanks to the contributors.

Magandang araw!

isabela_gateway
April 11th, 2011, 03:10 AM
nice images dude! way to go!

Thanks!

freightrunner
April 11th, 2011, 03:48 AM
Mga kakabsat. Siguro noon napapa-what the hell kayo sa mga nangyari sa Tugue and Cagayan thread. Ngayon ako naman hehe. Magbati-bati na kayo para maiwasan mangyari dito yun. As a reader, I think both sides have good points. I understand sir b_two's upbeat feeling about what's happenning in Ilagan and his concern about those who may voice out their varying opinions about the same, and after reading all of the various 296xxx's posts I thought they have valid reasons as well for reminding us of the negative effects of progress. Nevertheless, let us all remain calm however candid we are about our postings and try to present our opinions with utmost civility which you guys have so far done. That is unless you guys want to keep us readers entertained rather than educated. :)

lloydbenitez
April 11th, 2011, 07:40 AM
Talamak ang jueteng sa buong Isabela. Ipinagbabawal ng batas ang illegal gambling. Paano kami susunod sa mga ordinansa kung ang leader namin hindi marunong sumunod sa batas?

even here in tuguegarao, may mga patagong nagooperate ng jueteng! napakahirap talgang buwagin ang isang bagay kung marameng maralita ang nkadepende dito. hindi ba ok yung proposal nun na ilegalize yung jueteng? pero if ver, wala dapat retroactive effect, para kung sinu mang pulitiko ang napatunayang prumoprotekta o nagooperate ng jueteng nung illegal pa eh mabigyan ng kaparusahan.

296619
April 11th, 2011, 08:57 AM
Parang lotto at yung sa Sta. Ana. Profits will be properly accounted and will be used to fund certain projects and support the needy in general. Hindi ang napupunta sa bulsa ng iilan.

Ephesus29
April 11th, 2011, 09:08 AM
There was a movie of Kevin Costner I saw somtimes ago. One of the cast said "Build it and they will come". He was refering of course about the playing field in the "Field of Dreams". It could happen to the fast and booming development going on, in Ilagan. However plausible, there is always a risk involve in every development in such short period of time. Nevertheless, I would suspect that the developer/owner have done their homework before they even launched their projects. They would have not gotten into it without looking at every sides of the development spectrum. When businesess and other development start sprouting in the community, there are some investors that are willing to take risk in this kind of venture while it is still on the early stages of the community's economic emergence. Meaning that "Risk Takers" that has some dough to spare would like to get a piece of the economic pie brewing in the community (Ilagan)
For now I thought the mall is almost abandoned by shoppers except few people taking photos. But that could change!

Also, take note though that Ilagan is not a city just yet, and politically speaking they still can take advantage of any government funded projects, which they always has, being the capital of Isabela. Plus they have a large number of electorates. Ilagan has a huge potential in economic development and in tourism.

There is also a drawback in any development, and that is sustainability. Too many of the same project/development in fast phase would have a negative impact in overall economy of the community
it serves.

lloydbenitez
April 11th, 2011, 09:12 AM
Jai Alai yung nasa Sta. Ana. dinarayo yun ng mga foreigners. ang mga naglalaro dun eh hndi lang mga pinoy, may spanish, chinese, etc. napapanood siya sa solar sports

b_two
April 11th, 2011, 09:54 AM
There was a movie of Kevin Costner I saw somtimes ago. One of the cast said "Build it and they will come". He was refering of course about the playing field in the "Field of Dreams". It could happen to the fast and booming development going on, in Ilagan. However plausible, there is always a risk involve in every development in such short period of time. Nevertheless, I would suspect that the developer/owner have done their homework before they even launched their projects. They would have not gotten into it without looking at every sides of the development spectrum. When businesess and other development start sprouting in the community, there are some investors that are willing to take risk in this kind of venture while it is still on the early stages of the community's economic emergence. Meaning that "Risk Takers" that has some dough to spare would like to get a piece of the economic pie brewing in the community (Ilagan)
For now I thought the mall is almost abandoned by shoppers except few people taking photos. But that could change!

Also, take note though that Ilagan is not a city just yet, and politically speaking they still can take advantage of any government funded projects, which they always has, being the capital of Isabela. Plus they have a large number of electorates. Ilagan has a huge potential in economic development and in tourism.

There is also a drawback in any development, and that is sustainability. Too many of the same project/development in fast phase would have a negative impact in overall economy of the community
it serves. this is exactly my point. Investors take risks but before they do they do all sorts of studies to make sure that the odds of success is in their favor. We are in a democracy which promotes a free market economy and everyone who wants to take a share at the pie is welcome. A healthy competition is somewhat beneficial to the general public in terms of choices, prices, and diversity. The sustainability of their business would rely on their strategy, preparedness, dexterity, creativity, business ethics, and capital. "strike the iron while it's hot," as some would put it. In the case of ilagan, all these developments didn't sprout overnight. It all started in 1990 when the provincial capitol was relocated in alibagu. Slowly one by one real estate developers and commercial establishments followed like the am city development which took almost 2 decades before they started constructing the northstar mall. So unlike what is being claimed that the growth is too fast it is actually the opposite. The struggles that started on the following decade, 2000's, is now bearing its fruits. Along the national hi-way starting from alibagu the evidence of growth is now visible... Resorts, hotels, subdivisions, malls, agri establishments, restaurants, and others. Ilagan is hot once again. I am happy for what's happening in ilagan and i am hoping that the same thing would happen to all of isabela.

296619
April 11th, 2011, 10:49 AM
Ang punto naman namin, malabong pumasok ngayon ang robinsons sa Ilagan given the present condition. Pero inisip niyo na isang paninira yung opinion namin. Hayaan nating ang Robinsons ang magisip hindi ang local govt ng Ilagan ang manghila sa Robinsons papasok. Hindi kasi ok na pilit gustong gawing Robinsons mall ang palengke ng Ilagan dahil, una tataas ang renta ng mga nagbebenta. Pangalawa, hindi pa nakakabawi ang Northstar at hindi pa nga ngbubukas ang Talavera. Maraming maliliit pang negosyo ang kayang kayang wasakin ng Rob mall. Given the population density, malayo pa. Kaya nga para hindi makawawa ang negosyante ...

Hayaan nating magdecide ang Rob kung papasok sila o hindi, yun ang totoong ibig sabihin ng free market, open market o ano man.

b_two
April 11th, 2011, 11:11 AM
wala namang namimilit sa robinsons na magtayo sa ilagan. Kahit ipagduldulan namin ang bayan namin sa kanila ay walang mangyayari kung ayaw nila. Tandaan natin na ang robinsons ay isang multi-billion company at lahat ng kilos nila ay kalkulado. Kung sa tingin nila ok sa ilagan ang mall e di welcome sila. Kung sa santiago e ok na ok pa din. It won't really matter kung saan sa isabela basta meron kasi siguradong dudumugin. Regarding northstar at pagbawi sa puhunan nila, we cannot stop other malls from doing business in ilagan. That is called protectionism, monopoly and favoritism. The only thing that ilagan government can do is to make sure that the playing field is leveled. As i've mentioned previously their sustainability and survival will rely on the factors i've already enumerated such as strategy. let the consumers decide what's best for them.

Ephesus29
April 11th, 2011, 11:13 AM
this is exactly my point. Investors take risks but before they do they do all sorts of studies to make sure that the odds of success is in their favor. We are in a democracy which promotes a free market economy and everyone who wants to take a share at the pie is welcome. A healthy competition is somewhat beneficial to the general public in terms of choices, prices, and diversity. The sustainability of their business would rely on their strategy, preparedness, dexterity, creativity, business ethics, and capital. "strike the iron while it's hot," as some would put it. In the case of ilagan, all these developments didn't sprout overnight. It all started in 1990 when the provincial capitol was relocated in alibagu. Slowly one by one real estate developers and commercial establishments followed like the am city development which took almost 2 decades before they started constructing the northstar mall. So unlike what is being claimed that the growth is too fast it is actually the opposite. The struggles that started on the following decade, 2000's, is now bearing its fruits. Along the national hi-way starting from alibagu the evidence of growth is now visible... Resorts, hotels, subdivisions, malls, agri establishments, restaurants, and others. Ilagan is hot once again. I am happy for what's happening in ilagan and i am hoping that the same thing would happen to all of isabela.

And I agree with you totally. Had they (investors) not given a lot thought before even surfing the economic wave of Ilagan, it would have not came out the way it did. And it is perfectly normal for investors to take risk. You made your point quite clearly. Other forumer pointed out though that building another mall in the old town of Ilagan would not be as viable as other people would think. And I agree with him too totally. However considering the distance of the future mall in the old town from the recently completed mall in Balibagu? and the future infra, ie: bridge, it might work. But quite frankly, although I am not an economist, could be a slippery slope to navigate. The success of any business which remains to be seen, really depends on the people/community it serves, and its location.

:cheers:To Ilagan's economic success.

Ephesus29
April 11th, 2011, 11:28 AM
I would also like to add that given the economic vibrancy of Ilagan, it is plausible that more businesess would take footings in the community. However as I have pointed out earlier malls depends mostly on the population's disposable income. I am not saying that Ilagan's populations are not capable of supporting another mall, I am just concern if getting another mall to the fore would be sustainable. IMO, it is highly unlikely just for the time being though. But give it another few years down the road, it might just work.

Buntun
April 11th, 2011, 11:33 AM
may lotsa pizza na pala sa cauayan,may nakita ako na poster nito pero i haven't seen the building yet,,wala sa highway

b_two
April 11th, 2011, 11:42 AM
And I agree with you totally. Had they (investors) not given a lot thought before even surfing the economic wave of Ilagan, it would have not came out the way it did. And it is perfectly normal for investors to take risk. You made your point quite clearly. Other forumer pointed out though that building another mall in the old town of Ilagan would not be as viable as other people would think. And I agree with him too totally. However considering the distance of the future mall in the old town from the recently completed mall in Balibagu? and the future infra, ie: bridge, it might work. But quite frankly, although I am not an economist, could be a slippery slope to navigate. The success of any business which remains to be seen, really depends on the people/community it serves, and its location.

:cheers:To Ilagan's economic success.


i guess it all boils down to the mall proponent's decision as per their studies. if they think that constructing a mall in ilagan's town proper is too risky for them then it is only logical to assume that they might not continue with it. on the other hand, if their studies indicate otherwise then they are most welcome. if it is indeed a robinsons mall (only my example, the mall developer is still unknown and could be a local government funded mall) it will be viable without a doubt. why? simply because it's robinsons. the name would vouch for itself. as i've mentioned before, you can construct it anywhere in isabela and 100% sure it will be full of people.

i am also sure that the people behind northstar and talvera have already considered that future competitors are inevitable as ilagan continues to progress. these people are not damn nor stupid, i am assuming that they are aware of what's happening around them and i am assuming that they are prepared to joust with the competition head-on.

*Alibagu

b_two
April 11th, 2011, 11:53 AM
ang ilan pang mga lugar na dapat nating abangan bukod sa santiago at ilagan ay ang cauayan city, roxas, san marinao (multi-billion projects), and tumauini (multi-billion projects).

b_two
April 11th, 2011, 11:55 AM
^^^^

*san mariano

Buntun
April 11th, 2011, 12:07 PM
soon to open pa rin ang jollibee at mcdo sa northstar mall ilagan,,akala ko dati sa talavera square yung mcdo based dun sa wikipedia na ngayon ay napalitan na ng goldilucks hehe :)

296619
April 11th, 2011, 12:12 PM
Sabi nyo e. Theres no wrong in dreaming. In reality however, malabo ang Robinsonsmall ngayon sa Ilagan. Wla namang ipiniplit pero sabi nga sa FYI daw sa amin, pinagusapan na sa konseho. Ilagan is vibrant but not enough to save whatever must e saved.

Ayaw namin ang Robinsons mall sa Ilagan sa ngayon.

b_two
April 11th, 2011, 12:27 PM
^^^^

pinag-uusapan pa lang naman dahil nga may mga taong lumapit. syempre yung mga opisyal ng ilagan gusto rin nilang magkaroon ng contribution sa progress ng bayan. ganun din ang sitwasyon sa sm, camella at waltermart.

if something comes out from their dialogues ay saka malalaman ang lahat ng detalye at kung matutuloy ba.

kung magtatayo ng sm, robinsons, puregold, waltermart o kahit ano pa mang mall sa santiago, i will definitely be happy not only for santiago but also for isabela.

:cheers:

296619
April 11th, 2011, 12:36 PM
agree at 1st par ng post 269. 2nd par hindi. The LGU of Ilagan has the power to regulate. Pagandahin nalang nila ang palengke

296619
April 11th, 2011, 12:39 PM
post 274 malinaw. Agree. Nasa Ilagan parin ang decision. Masaya na kaming matimbang nila ng mabuti.

cauayan santiago
April 11th, 2011, 12:51 PM
SA MGA TAGA ILAGAN ISABELA MALAYONG MALAYO PO KAYO SA SANTIAGO CITY AT CAUAYAN CITY.di pa po pwedeng itayo ang robinsmall dyan dahil mauuna muna ang santiago at cauayan.dahil pag dyan tinayo ang robinsmall sa ilagan isabela lalangawin lang po..sa cauayan city po gagawin ng 3 storey building ang city market at lalagyan po ng savemore nito at yung old market ilalagay po sa city terminal.. nakalagay po yun sa harap ng palengke proposed...go go go SANTIAGO CITY CAUAYAN CITY

296619
April 11th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Kahit mauna ang Ilagan magka SM o Rob ok lng, basta siguraduhin ng lokal na pamahalaan na hindi mapagiiwanan ang mga purong negosyante ng Ilagan. Bagamat sa kaalukuyan ay hindi pa kami sasangaon na papasukin na si Rob. Maganda ang nagiging katayuan ng Ilagan sa kasalukuyan at mas magiging maigi pa ito kung sosoportahan ng Ilagan LGU ang mga negosyante nito sa pamamagitam ng pagpapaayus ng mga tamang pasilidad para sa mga malliit nitong negosyante. Palakasin ang mga maliliit na namumuhunan lalo na ang mga purong Ilagueno. Hindi ang dayuhan.

b_two
April 11th, 2011, 01:50 PM
this is not all about who gets what first nor a mine is better than yours thing. We just want to let those interested to know to have an idea of what's going on in ilagan. These developments no matter how big or small are all important to us. Why? because we love ilagan as much as you love your own city or town. What's important here is the fact that there are indeed indicators of progress and that investors are upbeat with our town once again after a long, long time. As mlk jr. Once said, "i had a dream..." and true enough obama was sworn as president several years after. It is not as if we are saying that when we all wake up tomorrow we will already see a robinsons or an sm mall in ilagan... As much as i want to... it doesn't work that way.

296619
April 11th, 2011, 02:43 PM
For Buntun. Madalas yung mga pinapasok na negosyo sa Santiago, ipapasok din sa Cauayan. Marami ding bagong negosyo dun. Yung ibang distribution centers sa Santiago, nagopen ng outlet sa Ilagan tulad ng Rusty Lopez at otto.

Punuan ang tao sa mga banko sa Santiago at mukhang marami ang pera ng mga tao ngayon. Anihan na kasi.

Busy din ngayon ang city gov sa prep ng Pattaraday.

296619
April 11th, 2011, 02:44 PM
For Buntun. Madalas yung mga pinapasok na negosyo sa Santiago, ipapasok din sa Cauayan. Marami ding bagong negosyo dun. Yung ibang distribution centers sa Santiago, nagopen ng outlet sa Ilagan tulad ng Rusty Lopez at otto.

Punuan ang tao sa mga banko sa Santiago at mukhang marami ang pera ng mga tao ngayon. Anihan na kasi.

Busy din ngayon ang city gov sa prep ng Pattaraday.

296619
April 11th, 2011, 02:55 PM
May mga newly concreted roads ngayon sa Patul area going to San Isidro - Villa Gonzaga area. May ilan ilan ding streets na nilalagyan ng drainage.

Puno na ng street lights ang Sinsayon area.

May mga tinabunan at tinatabunang area sa bawat entry ng Santiago. Ano kaya itong mga ito?

296619
April 11th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Dagdag. Sinakop na rin pala ng SANWAD ang Nagassikan area, mukhang naghuhukay sila para sa installation ng tubo. Madaming construction para sa mga bagong negosyo. Ang mga city gov projects kaya, kelan sisimulan?

296619
April 11th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Madami ding tinatayong bahay sa Santiago.

Sa Ilagan ok na mga connecting bridges maliban dun sa tatapusin plng na bridge. Ang Roxas galing, connected na sya sa Cauayan, Ilagan, Tuguegarao at Santiago.

296619
April 11th, 2011, 05:03 PM
Measles Immunization campaign starts in Isabela City! Stgo.

xtian_awesome
April 12th, 2011, 04:49 AM
soon to rise na din po ang SM SAVEMORE market sa Santiago City...together with DEVELOPMENT BANK OF THE PHILIPPINES...according to a reliable source..3rd quarter of tis yea ang construction...yung na vacate na lot po beside INSULAR LIFE ang construction site...

xtian_awesome
April 12th, 2011, 04:53 AM
SA MGA TAGA ILAGAN ISABELA MALAYONG MALAYO PO KAYO SA SANTIAGO CITY AT CAUAYAN CITY.di pa po pwedeng itayo ang robinsmall dyan dahil mauuna muna ang santiago at cauayan.dahil pag dyan tinayo ang robinsmall sa ilagan isabela lalangawin lang po..sa cauayan city po gagawin ng 3 storey building ang city market at lalagyan po ng savemore nito at yung old market ilalagay po sa city terminal.. nakalagay po yun sa harap ng palengke proposed...go go go SANTIAGO CITY CAUAYAN CITY

@cauayan santiago: sir napanuod ko po yung news regarding dun sa tie up na mangyayari between city goverment of cauayan and sm savemore sa tv patrol cagayan valley,,,mukhang ayaw po pumayag ng mga market vendors association...actually,nagkaroon pa po ng rally...

xtian_awesome
April 12th, 2011, 04:57 AM
@296619: sir tuloy pa din ba ang construction ng robinsons mall-santiago?
how about yung mga nabanggit ni mayor amy sa SOCA niya like:
> childrens park in sinsayon?
>welome marker?
>diversion road?
>santiago city eco-tourism zone?

xtian_awesome
April 12th, 2011, 04:59 AM
does anybody know kung kelan po maaoopen yung ARCADE 1 ng santiago city?

296619
April 12th, 2011, 05:58 AM
Yung Arcade malapit na daw. Yung mga pinangako sa SOCA dapat lang na magawa. Wala namang problema sa budget nyan, isang bilyong tumataginting ang pera ng Santiago ngayong 2011. Mga 230 milyon na natangap ng city gov sa IRA plus tax collection ngayong april kaya may budget na para simulan ang mga proyekto.
Tungkol sa childrens park, yung existing na nasa tabi ng South Central malamang pagagandahin lang din yun.

Yung circumferential dapat simulan na nila yun, funded daw ni JPE yun.

Yung Robinsons darating din yun.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 06:00 AM
Xtian, ibig mong sabihin may ARCADE 2 na itatayo?

296619
April 12th, 2011, 06:01 AM
May tinatayo din sa tabi ng Central Terminal, yun ba yung bagsakan center?

xtian_awesome
April 12th, 2011, 06:31 AM
Xtian, ibig mong sabihin may ARCADE 2 na itatayo?

@296619: yes sir...yung lot ng fire station beside nung arcade 1 yung magiging site ng arcade 2...bale under construction na po yung paglilipatan ng fire station sa CITY TERMINAL...sana the soonest mataposna para mai start na din po yung construction nung arcade 2...actually tapos na po yung groundbreaking...madami pang upcoming projects ang city goverment..kaya antayin na lang po natin..anyway...by May na din i start yung pagapatayo ng mga COBRA STYLE POST LIGHT along the stretch of Mabini hanggang Divisoria

freightrunner
April 12th, 2011, 07:50 AM
Yung Arcade malapit na daw. Yung mga pinangako sa SOCA dapat lang na magawa. Wala namang problema sa budget nyan, isang bilyong tumataginting ang pera ng Santiago ngayong 2011. Mga 230 milyon na natangap ng city gov sa IRA plus tax collection ngayong april kaya may budget na para simulan ang mga proyekto.
Tungkol sa childrens park, yung existing na nasa tabi ng South Central malamang pagagandahin lang din yun.

Yung circumferential dapat simulan na nila yun, funded daw ni JPE yun.

Yung Robinsons darating din yun.

Palagay ko hindi muna magagamit yung tax collections ngayon or in the immediate future. Dadaan pa yan sa BIR and Finance Department at sisipatin pa ng COA bago ireredistribute in the form of IRA. Next year pa siguro. Yung local income in the form of rentals, sales and business permit fees ang nasa discretion na ng local gov't kung gagamitin kagad or otherwise.

gatestar
April 12th, 2011, 08:42 AM
ILAGAN ROCKS!

296619
April 12th, 2011, 11:08 AM
IRA share plus local tax and other income daw.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 11:15 AM
Ok kung nggroundbreaking na sila for Arcade 2. Magiging maayos ang old plaza at luluwang ang daan sa Panganiban. Sana maganda yung in and out ng daan, daloy ng trapiko sa area nun para mall type na rin ang dating.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 11:20 AM
Maliban sa Mga dagdag pailaw at Arcade 2. Inaasahan namin na mas maraming proyekto ang maipapatayo ngayon dahil sa laki na rin ng budget.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Yung mga sidewalk vendors daw sa Santiago city, dati nang inalis yang mga yan pero bumabalik. Mukhang matitigas ang ulo.

Malinis ang mga daan sa Santiago, pati na rin mga kanal. Sana'y maayos na maimplment yung ordinansa para doon.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Malapit nang matapos yung extention building ng Southern Isabela General Hospital. Marami na ring high tech equipments ang naipasok sa La Salette Hospital at marami pa raw ang ipapasok. Nagooperate na ito partially at di hamak na mura daw ang singil.

ariel85
April 12th, 2011, 02:02 PM
Goodluck Santiago City!hehe..
ingat tayong lahat :)

ariel85
April 12th, 2011, 02:03 PM
nice! may arcade 2 pa pala nagagawin, iba kaya design nung 2nd arcade? :)

cauayan santiago
April 12th, 2011, 02:21 PM
@ xtian awesome anung date mu napanuod sa tv patrol isabela yung rally balak na itatayong sm save more sa cauayan

maq591
April 12th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Sabi nyo e. Theres no wrong in dreaming. In reality however, malabo ang Robinsonsmall ngayon sa Ilagan. Wla namang ipiniplit pero sabi nga sa FYI daw sa amin, pinagusapan na sa konseho. Ilagan is vibrant but not enough to save whatever must e saved.

Ayaw namin ang Robinsons mall sa Ilagan sa ngayon.

Grabe lumabas din ang totoo... So what you really want is robinspn should be constructed in your city... Not anywhere else.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Look at the real issue. Hindi lang iisa ang lugar namin. We have already laid our reasons.

Wrong inference.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 03:42 PM
Don't just quote one of our many posts about that project.

We are just categorical of what we want and what we propose.

Wala kaming sinasabing sa city na ito dapat at hindi kailanman sa lugar na iyan.

Don't think bad about us because we don't judge any forumer's person here.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Yung second arcade dapat may similarity sa 1st para nagandang tignan, tapos sana ilandscape nila yung buong area para magandang tignan, magmumukhang mall na tlaga yun.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Yung mga taga Stgo cityhall pwede nilang iconfirm kung totoo yung arcade 2. Dito lang din namin narinig ang project na yun.

b_two
April 12th, 2011, 05:56 PM
Grabe lumabas din ang totoo... So what you really want is robinspn should be constructed in your city... Not anywhere else.
i didn't want to pinpoint the obvious because i know forumers here are not that naive not to notice. Other forumers and i have sensed the resentment even from the very first reply. After some exchanges i remembered that this is a forum and everyone is entitled to voice out what's in their mind. There may have been friction in views but i believe the most important thing is that we were able to see things at other people's perspective. As i've been pointing out all along, the location of the mall is not an issue for me, i'll be happy if it's in ilagan, santiago, cauayan, roxas or anywhere in isabela. Sure there are many things to consider but most of those things are not for us to decide. Nevertheless, we play an important role to their sustainability because afterall we are their target market.:cheers:

Ephesus29
April 12th, 2011, 07:56 PM
i didn't want to pinpoint the obvious because i know forumers here are not that naive not to notice. Other forumers and i have sensed the resentment even from the very first reply. After some exchanges i remembered that this is a forum and everyone is entitled to voice out what's in their mind. There may have been friction in views but i believe the most important thing is that we were able to see things at other people's perspective. As i've been pointing out all along, the location of the mall is not an issue for me, i'll be happy if it's in ilagan, santiago, cauayan, roxas or anywhere in isabela. Sure there are many things to consider but most of those things are not for us to decide. Nevertheless, we play an important role to their sustainability because afterall we are their target market.:cheers:

I totally agree with you. But I have to admit that which ever city/town gets the first break would be surfing high at least for the meantime, till other city/town get the next one. And it is highly likely given the economic vibrancy of Isabela and its newly minted cities. :cheers:

b_two
April 12th, 2011, 09:52 PM
^^^^

i agree. but i am hoping that isabelinos transcend municipal borders and embrace the fact that in order to attain true progress in our province we need to support each other. imo we don't need to step on each other's head nor pull each other's leg to attain our goals. :cheers:

296619
April 12th, 2011, 10:41 PM
We dont want to be narrow minded.

Kung sa tingin niyo driven by resentment or some evil motive yung mga post namin, kayo na ang bahala dun. Hindi naman kami ang magdadala.

Nakikibaka kami sa mga one sided decisions.

Wala naman masamang maging categorical.

Kung mga taga Cauayan nga nagmartsa para iprotesta ang pagpasok ng Savemore lang e.

Lahat ng pinost namin ay totoo.

Looking at one side alone is a downfall

Desisyon parin yan ng Ilagan at masaya na kami kung titimbangin nila ng mabuti. Ngunit para sa amin, hindi pa talaga nararapat sa ngayon ang Robinsons lalo na kung yung public market ay bubuwagin at gagawing private. Mas may magandang paraan at yun ay ang proposal namin.

Bumalik nalang kayo sa Pilipinas para makita niyo mga boss.

296619
April 12th, 2011, 10:49 PM
Minsan o kaya madalas dapat matapang. May paninindigang ipamulat ang katotohanan, lalo na't makapangyarihan ang madalas na tiwali.

maq591
April 13th, 2011, 02:27 AM
Minsan o kaya madalas dapat matapang. May paninindigang ipamulat ang katotohanan, lalo na't makapangyarihan ang madalas na tiwali.

Hai naku 29XXX, i love your place santiago... i am not against any project/mall to be erected there. But with your words "AYAW NAMING ANG ROBNSON SA ILAGAN" naku mukhang marami kayong masasaktan niyan and ako na nag isa dun.It;s ovious ayaw niyong maungusan ang santiago sa development, thats the reality, its obvious by how you post your opinions here... I seldom do posting messages here pero sobrang bigat sa dibdib ko nung nabasa ko ang mga postings ni 29XXX.

296619
April 13th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Malinaw ang nabangit namin. Ayaw namin ng Robinsons mall sa Ilagan sa ngayon. Kakatayo lng ng North Star at pabukas palang ang Talavera na may Rob supermarket. Kung itatayo ngayon o sa susunod na tatlong taon ang Mall, magiging saturated yan at baka masayang lang ang mga itinayo na. Mahihirapan pa ang mga lokal na namumuhunan.

Napagusapan na rin lng dati, hindi sa mall makikita kung progresibo ang isang bayan

bronx1981
April 13th, 2011, 05:40 AM
just registered....

b_two
April 13th, 2011, 06:13 AM
Malinaw ang nabangit namin. Ayaw namin ng Robinsons mall sa Ilagan sa ngayon. Kakatayo lng ng North Star at pabukas palang ang Talavera na may Rob supermarket. Kung itatayo ngayon o sa susunod na tatlong taon ang Mall, magiging saturated yan at baka masayang lang ang mga itinayo na. Mahihirapan pa ang mga lokal na namumuhunan.

Napagusapan na rin lng dati, hindi sa mall makikita kung progresibo ang isang bayan


i have property investments in richmond hills and the opening of northstar mall appreciated the value of my investments. do you think if northstar fails it will be beneficial to me? definitely not. but i should think beyond myself and prepare for things that are yet to come.

296619
April 13th, 2011, 06:44 AM
Don't worry we have not seen any land depreciating not unless it is located in a fault line or place prone to calamities or danger like erosion.

Timbangin lang nila ng mabuti dahil kailangan ding isaalang-alang ang mga maliliit na negosyo.

Isang magandang paghahanda ang patayuan ng kaaya-ayang pwesto ang mga maliit na negosyante lalo na ang nasa mga publikong palengke na siguradong hindi kayang magbayad ng mahal na renta.

lloydbenitez
April 13th, 2011, 07:03 AM
@bronx: welcome!

@29xxxx: land never depreciates. it is the only asset or property which does not depreciate.

willyjerk
April 13th, 2011, 07:26 AM
Yung mga taga Stgo cityhall pwede nilang iconfirm kung totoo yung arcade 2. Dito lang din namin narinig ang project na yun.

Absolutely correct guys. The construction of Arcade 2 will start on June, to be specific, first week of June. The cost is 100M and it is expected to be completed within 6-8months. It has resemblance with arcade 1 only bigger.The initial budget of 25M was already approved just recently, coming from the 2011 supplemental budget. FYI

b_two
April 13th, 2011, 07:46 AM
Don't worry we have not seen any land depreciating not unless it is located in a fault line or place prone to calamities or danger like erosion.

Timbangin lang nila ng mabuti dahil kailangan ding isaalang-alang ang mga maliliit na negosyo.

Isang magandang paghahanda ang patayuan ng kaaya-ayang pwesto ang mga maliit na negosyante lalo na ang nasa mga publikong palengke na siguradong hindi kayang magbayad ng mahal na renta.
i am proud to say that i come from a long line of market vendors. I have relatives and friends who own market stalls all-over the philippines... LIke in aparri, tuguegarao, paniqui, baliuag, santiago, ilagan, cauayan, san mariano, legazpi, divisoria, baclaran, and as far away as dipolog and kidapawan. One thing i've learned from being raised in the palengke environment is the resilience of market vendors and thus paving the way for brilliant ideas like bargain centers, tiangges, night markets, bagsak presyo and other strategies to stay in the game. Do we really want the local government to promote monopoly and favouritism? Imo the local government should promote an investment environment that has a level playing field, transparent, mutually beneficial, and progressive.

b_two
April 13th, 2011, 07:56 AM
i better stop my rhetoric before i get accused of grandstanding. Lurk mode muna until further developments. Mabuhay ang isabela!:cheers:

Ephesus29
April 13th, 2011, 10:15 AM
@cauayan santiago: sir napanuod ko po yung news regarding dun sa tie up na mangyayari between city goverment of cauayan and sm savemore sa tv patrol cagayan valley,,,mukhang ayaw po pumayag ng mga market vendors association...actually,nagkaroon pa po ng rally...

Wow! :cheers:Honestly, I do admire the "Vendors Association of Cauayan" for standing up for what they believed in. I am not against any big business taking roots in the city of Cauayan, but given the populations of the city at the current figure (135 grand?) look like it is not sustainable, just yet. Plus the likeliness of choking or even killing small businesess is a possibility. Perhaps in five years or so, once the population increases and the disposable income goes up. What the city should do for now, is to attract investors in the manufacturing sectors and producers of consumer goods.

296619
April 13th, 2011, 11:46 AM
We absolutely agree with ephesus. Proper time will come.

Marami din po kaming kakilalang maliliit na negosyante in Luzon area na nilamon ng mga malls. Karamihan sa mga ito ay empleyado nlng at iba ay nagsipagabroad para makapagtrabaho. Kaya para hindi mangyari, kinakailangang palakasin muna ang mga malliit na negosyo sa pamamagitan ng pagpapaganda sa kanilang mga pwesto. Yung hakbangin ng Santiago LGU ay isang magandang halimbawa.

296619
April 13th, 2011, 11:48 AM
Thanks willy for responding. We are looking forward to that new arcade.

296619
April 13th, 2011, 12:07 PM
For Lloyd.

The value of land may also depreciate in some instances. Try mo icompare value ng lot sa Fukoshima prefecture ngayon sa dati nitong presyo. O kaya dun sa Sendai.

296619
April 13th, 2011, 12:18 PM
For B_two

Level the playing field! Yes, we agree!

isabela_gateway
April 13th, 2011, 12:55 PM
Opening na po tomorrow talavera square mall...

296619
April 13th, 2011, 01:04 PM
DoJ prosecutors, gagamitin na rin sa monitoring vs illegal gambling

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Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:00

Ikinabahala ni Justice Secretary Leila de Lima ang muling pag-usbong ng jueteng operations sa ibat-ibang panig ng bansa partikular sa mga lalawigan ng Pangasinan, Isabela, Cagayan, Oriental Mindoro at maging sa National Capital Region (NCR).

Sa pulong nina DILG Sec. Jesse Robredo at de Lima, iniulat ng dalawang kalihim na mistulang nabuhay na naman ang jueteng sa ibat-ibang bahagi ng bansa sa pamamagitan ng operasyon ng Jai-Alai na isang uri ng legal na sugal at nasa ilalim pa ng prangkisa na aprubado ng Games and Amusement Board (GAB).

Ipinagtataka din ng DoJ chief kung bakit kumakalat ang operasyon ng jueteng sa ibang lalawigan, bagama’t limitado lamang sa Cagayan Valley ang operasyon ng Jai-alai na pinapatakbo ng Meridian na pinamumunuan ni dating 'Bingo King' na si Atong Ang.

Kaugnay nito ay inatasan ni de Lima ang mga provincial prosecutors na magsumite ng imbentaryo o status ng anti-gambling cases na kapansin-pansin ang pagtaas sa mga nabanggit na lalawigan.

Makikipagtulungan din ang DoJ sa pamamagitan ng Office of the Solicitor General sa DILG upang tugunan ang suliranin sa muling pagbuhay sa iligal na sugal.

296619
April 13th, 2011, 01:07 PM
PIA Press Release
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
Bridges and buildings identified as vulnerable to quakes
by Merlito G. Edale, Jr.

CAUAYAN CITY, Isabela, April 12 (PIA) – The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) first engineering district has identified the bridges in Ballacayu in San Pablo; Magasi in Cabagan; Minanga and Angcol bridges in Ilagan, all located at the first district of Isabela, as vulnerable if a strong earthquake hits the province.

The old public market building of Ilagan, two-storey school building and six (6) classrooms of the Isabela National High School were also tagged as vulnerable to quakes based on the results of the monitoring and inspection of the DPWH.

DPWH 1st engineering district head Renato Ubina said that he has ordered the monitoring and inspection of all the infrastructures in his area of jurisdiction to check the durability and strength of all bridges and buildings to avert damages when a powerful earthquake occurs.

Ubina added that the said bridges are still being used by the public particularly light vehicles but trailer trucks are no longer allowed to pass through the said bridges to prevent further damages.

The DPWH head has advised motorists who carry loads exceeding the regular 15 tons limit to refrain from using the vulnerable bridges. # TCB/MGE PIA- Isabela

william :D
April 13th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Opening na po tomorrow talavera square mall...

wow!! congratz! sana may makapag-post ng picture! :banana: