View Full Version : #033 l Menara Telekom l KUALA LUMPUR l 310m l 55fl
argory February 17th, 2007, 07:10 AM Looking different from every angle is NOT the same as looking good from every angle.
We give a building high ratings only if it looks good from most angles.
In this case, the building looks bad from practically every angle.
It's good they've banned you (for whatever reason), a well deserved punisment.
And incase you haven't noticed that in this poll, nearly 80% have voted 7 points and above while only a mere 12% agree with you. So that explains a lot.
When someone votes 3 or below for any skyscraper, most people here know that it's very prejudiced.
Dalston Kingsland February 17th, 2007, 12:46 PM 8. Reminds me of one of those air fresheners you find in a restroom :)
paw25694 February 18th, 2007, 07:14 AM love the architect.. love the building! lol 9/10
alsen February 18th, 2007, 10:39 AM It's good they've banned you (for whatever reason), a well deserved punisment.
And incase you haven't noticed that in this poll, nearly 80% have voted 7 points and above while only a mere 12% agree with you. So that explains a lot.
When someone votes 3 or below for any skyscraper, most people here know that it's very prejudiced.
hans gruber,imani,jodie mitchell,warrian,sumting wong&Gators Rule obviously the same person :lol:
paw25694 February 20th, 2007, 12:09 PM ^^ 100% agree!
Piotr-Stettin February 27th, 2007, 02:18 AM 9/10
krull February 27th, 2007, 06:16 PM I really like this one. 9/10
W!CKED April 13th, 2007, 08:59 AM 9.5/10
Sentient Seas April 14th, 2007, 11:42 AM Awesome design. Definately a 10.
shctaw April 16th, 2007, 10:03 AM Not bad, did not know such a building exist in Malaysia.
9/10
kurakura April 21st, 2007, 05:39 AM facadesucks.7/10
AhChuan April 28th, 2007, 07:12 AM INCREDIBLE building!!! 9/10!!
Kelsen April 30th, 2007, 04:09 AM Nice one. The lat pic of the first set is my fav. 9.5/10.
Ralphkke May 3rd, 2007, 10:34 PM Ah this is a nice tower but not perfect;) 8/10
EloyBr May 5th, 2007, 07:33 AM 5.5/10
Stiggen May 10th, 2007, 12:27 PM 9/10
forrestcat May 10th, 2007, 03:58 PM KL'ss second city centre :banana:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/417277993_21c64a2fe7_b.jpg
SouthernEuropean May 16th, 2007, 06:30 AM love it love it love it better than the Petronas Towers,although i think the circle thing should have something pointy on it's top..well..9/10
forrestcat May 24th, 2007, 09:42 AM Some pics of the model
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/hijazzains/IMAG2741.jpg
Banner of the company that designed Telekom Tower
Description of the design
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/hijazzains/IMAG2751.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/hijazzains/IMAG2739.jpg
Model of the tower
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/hijazzains/IMAG2744.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o245/hijazzains/IMAG2743.jpg
Aliya May 24th, 2007, 09:42 PM 9/10
Aleho May 25th, 2007, 01:06 AM wow! i like it. Kuala Lumpur is an impressive city! 9/10
sc4 May 25th, 2007, 04:07 AM love it love it love it better than the Petronas Towers,although i think the circle thing should have something pointy on it's top..well..9/10
^^ The circle thing at the top is actually the helipad
forrestcat May 25th, 2007, 07:33 AM The sky gardens faces east and west...so the heat is absorbed.
SouthernEuropean May 25th, 2007, 12:31 PM lol ok then...let it be...very nice ss
neversaynever May 25th, 2007, 01:02 PM looks great. I give 10/10
forrestcat May 29th, 2007, 02:37 PM Wow :cheers:
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http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m73/sheikhfaisol/Buildings/P5260926.jpg
These pics are taken by me.;)
MNL May 29th, 2007, 02:45 PM 8.5/10. Very futuristic and curvy.:)
Rizzato May 31st, 2007, 05:08 AM This ones pretty cool, very creative architecture.
8.5/10
forrestcat May 31st, 2007, 03:56 PM Originally posted by James Foong
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2154/p1000314vz3.jpg
Shark!!!!!!!!
VaastuShastra May 31st, 2007, 11:01 PM Not bad - 9/10
cong san muon nam June 8th, 2007, 02:41 AM Unique design, 10/10 :cheer:
Skyman June 9th, 2007, 10:24 AM 8.5/10
forrestcat June 10th, 2007, 03:54 PM God send building...:lol:
originally posted by argory
Source:http://dheera.net/photos/thumb.php?q=malaysia2004
http://dheera.net/photos/malaysia2004/cloudhole%200.jpg
forrestcat June 10th, 2007, 08:29 PM TM tower and the cygals.....the best micro skyline :cheers:
Today's photo (10/6/2007)
A tribute to Menara TM and the Cygal Towers....
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8982/1000116ly7.jpg
Popiel June 12th, 2007, 11:05 PM 9/10
alsen June 13th, 2007, 05:24 PM God send building...:lol:
originally posted by argory
Source:http://dheera.net/photos/thumb.php?q=malaysia2004
http://dheera.net/photos/malaysia2004/cloudhole%200.jpg
awesome! is this real or photoshopped one?
xiaoluis June 13th, 2007, 10:52 PM Very nice 8/10
forrestcat June 14th, 2007, 01:17 PM Pic for today
by John W. Ishii Photographer
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/8/6/14/f_4124m_5a62003.jpg
shrekroma June 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM 5.5 weird.
Miso June 17th, 2007, 11:52 PM 10/10
"Hijjas kasturi rules!" jejejeje I copy that
Marcanadian June 26th, 2007, 08:27 PM 8/10
isola-man June 30th, 2007, 11:15 PM 9.5
forrestcat August 18th, 2007, 03:14 AM Image can be projected onto the building
Menara TM becomes giant screen
Thursday August 16, 2007
TheStar
http://www.thestar.com.my/archives/2007/8/16/nation/n_pg01giant.jpg
Giant slideshow: Menara TM in Jalan Pantai Baru transformed into an
inspirational wall with a slideshow on the country’s prime ministers and
heroes in conjunction with the country's 50th Merdeka anniversary. With the
building itself acting as the background, images and messages on people who
have contributed to the nation will be projected on the ‘big screen measuring
at 54m wide and 120m high, which basically covers Level 8 to 39
of the building. The show is on daily from 8pm to midnight until Sept 14. —
KAMARUL ARIFIN / The Star
KUALA LUMPUR: Menara TM beside the Federal Highway here was turned into a gigantic screen last night for the largest slide show the country has seen.
Telekom Malaysia Berhad (TM) transformed its 55-storey headquarters into a wall of inspiration, showcasing slides of the country's Prime Ministers and heroes in conjunction with the country's 50th Merdeka anniversary.
Group CEO Datuk Abdul Wahid Omar said images of heroes and inspiring messages from people who have contributed to the nation are projected on the “giant screen” measuring 54m wide and 120m high, which covers levels eight to 39 of the building.
The slide show, using technology to be used at the opening of the Beijing Olympics, will be on from 8pm to midnight daily until Sept 14.
TM has several projects running, including the TM Merdeka Millionaire programme, a reward programme to show appreciation for loyal customers, corporate campaigns, special products and services, national flag giveaways, radio contest, sound and light presentation at KL Tower, and the launch of its commemorative book in conjunction with its 20th anniversary.
To participate in the TM Merdeka Millionaire programme, all customers have to do is answer questions about themselves as well as complete a slogan on Malaysia's 50th Merdeka celebration. Forms can be obtained at any TMpoints or Celcom branches nationwide or online at www.tmonline.com.my
For details, call 1-300-888-555 or 100. The programme ends on Dec 31.
Taken on 17-8-07
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LMCA1990 August 18th, 2007, 03:31 AM 8/10
Slodi August 18th, 2007, 06:27 PM interesting design 9/10
Astralis September 21st, 2007, 01:44 PM Wacky :okay:! 9.5/10
MasonicStage™ September 21st, 2007, 11:07 PM 10/10 :cheers:
Skyman September 22nd, 2007, 08:39 AM Original design
newyorkrunaway1 September 25th, 2007, 06:59 AM 5/10
RON-E September 26th, 2007, 07:30 PM 7/10
DragonAnime November 23rd, 2007, 06:12 PM Impressive. 10/10
kon133 November 23rd, 2007, 06:14 PM 3/10 :puke:
Nikkodemo December 16th, 2007, 11:47 PM Amazing and lovely design!!!
9.5/10
krzewi December 18th, 2007, 07:10 PM freaky :D
WhiteChicken December 19th, 2007, 01:47 PM This is My Favorite Tower!! 10/10
cichy87 December 19th, 2007, 06:24 PM not bad 8/10;)
IMPRESARIO January 20th, 2008, 02:19 PM 8,ok
Halabalooza February 24th, 2008, 07:35 AM wow interesting. 9
LoveArki March 5th, 2008, 11:04 AM 10/10 :). It is my favourite building in KL. Love it so much. Any observation deck in this building???
I remember i had some sketches of building back in 1990s similar to Manara Telekom, minus off the helipad.
P/S: my 1st post... Yeah!
roen March 14th, 2008, 12:36 PM 8/10
Falcaonet March 15th, 2008, 03:34 AM Love the design and shape , the heli port as well.9.5/10
davee08 March 16th, 2008, 02:57 PM never seen or heard about this tower till now and i'm speechless 10/10 simply superb
nazrey March 18th, 2008, 04:47 PM by nur2310
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/2259558475_9b2d86b963_b.jpg
LAZO March 18th, 2008, 05:20 PM Yes!! 10/10
EnDleSsWaLtZ March 19th, 2008, 07:53 AM Very unique building. 8/10
xanathar March 19th, 2008, 08:15 PM Awesome look. I vote 9.5/10 This disk on the top of the buildig looks like a spaceship
Falcaonet March 19th, 2008, 10:07 PM The "disk" is a heliport
Camaway March 23rd, 2008, 01:26 AM Weird yet appealing.
7.5
Fundador April 11th, 2008, 09:43 AM cool 9/10
GOR@N April 11th, 2008, 09:49 AM 8/10
pedang June 3rd, 2008, 05:22 AM http://k43.pbase.com/o4/30/654330/1/64168315.cRmgRIAB.tmtower2.jpg
neverwinter June 3rd, 2008, 07:07 AM I've always liked this building. I'll give it 8/10.
meds June 10th, 2008, 05:05 PM it has a too weird shape
not bad thou
7.5/10
Sonnie June 12th, 2008, 05:20 PM 8/10 The buidling is great apart from that round part which a asume is helicopterplatform.
pedang June 17th, 2008, 05:33 AM TM Tower
Dont know if this was posted already...
A superb sunrise view of Menara TM from flickr taken by ~MVI~http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigberto/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/2422157845_3329bd260b_b.jpg
Luv2travel June 17th, 2008, 06:11 AM I like it! 8/10
Mateus_ July 23rd, 2008, 05:16 PM 7.5/10
loytm July 27th, 2008, 07:00 AM the design and architecture of this building is total special...it is very hard for people to figure out the plan of this building bcoz the building design is so complicated...
this building is quite tall...and has few sky gardens on it...creative....
this building can soar out proudly...but the lighting at night is not good...almost the whole building is dark at night...no light...maybe they want to save cost
Miguel_Prat September 11th, 2008, 02:24 AM 10/10
Kawasaki KG September 11th, 2008, 10:01 AM 8.5/10
Rutger1991 September 13th, 2008, 02:44 PM 8/10 ^^
henry hill September 19th, 2008, 09:29 PM 7/10
SacOnTheRise October 29th, 2008, 02:29 AM 9, :okay:
briker November 3rd, 2008, 06:35 AM 9/
nazrey January 3rd, 2009, 07:26 AM by John Ishii
http://www.pbase.com/image/90124892.jpg
nazrey January 3rd, 2009, 07:28 AM Telekom Malaysia HQ
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/3/11/9/f_27532318255m_272b249.jpg
IMPRESARIO January 7th, 2009, 11:40 AM unique.
SilentStrike January 21st, 2009, 06:33 PM 9.5/10
archiholic January 26th, 2009, 05:44 AM for me It's better than PT
9/10
Conrado January 30th, 2009, 03:51 PM 6,5
Malbo February 3rd, 2009, 04:48 PM 7/10
mzabdullah February 3rd, 2009, 06:07 PM Hi everyone.
I have just joined this forum and this is my first post. I stumbled on this forum because I happened to find my picture of Menara TM here which is taken by one of this forum's members Pedang. The picture of Menara TM above was taken and linked directly to my website here. (http://www.pbase.com/zainabdullah/image/64168315)
To pedang, I would appreciate it if you could inform me first in future if you would like to use any of my images and I would be very glad if you could provide the credit and link back to my website.
I have a couple of new pictures of Menara TM that I took very recently here.
http://www.pbase.com/zainabdullah/image/108590096.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/zainabdullah/image/108590103.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/zainabdullah/image/108590109.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/zainabdullah/image/108590105.jpg
To view more of my architectural photographs please check out my photo gallery. (http://www.pbase.com/zainabdullah)
Mosaic February 21st, 2009, 06:04 PM 9/10, unique and massive.
DinamiT April 1st, 2009, 01:10 PM 10/10! AmAzInG!
nazrey April 1st, 2009, 04:37 PM by Ethaniel83
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4025/img0091k.jpg
#obert April 1st, 2009, 10:36 PM 9/10
A_Voz_Da_Figueira April 3rd, 2009, 04:19 PM 10/10
nazrey April 8th, 2009, 06:45 AM by Jnls.Net
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jnlsnet/2906228250/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/2906228250_09f68f5b1a_b.jpg
skyperu34 April 16th, 2009, 05:35 PM One of my favorites !!!
9/10
tonyssa April 25th, 2009, 09:06 PM 8/10
nazrey June 9th, 2009, 12:41 PM by John Ishii
http://www.pbase.com/jwi/image/90124892.jpg
69Ketchup June 13th, 2009, 06:27 PM my favorite building in KL 8/10
bOrN2BwILd June 25th, 2009, 05:13 AM 9/10
Milling June 25th, 2009, 08:29 PM 7.5/10
Imperfect Ending June 27th, 2009, 08:29 AM 10/10
Delicious
nazrey July 9th, 2009, 07:12 PM by Ethaniel83
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3112/img0194g.jpg
nazrey July 9th, 2009, 07:22 PM http://www.pani.com/referenzen/architektur/bilder/3xmsia_telekom.jpg
nazrey July 9th, 2009, 09:11 PM by Khor Hui Min
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3465051906_05987be381_b.jpg
Borisnifk July 10th, 2009, 01:40 PM 10/10 I like it very much. Great tower.
dochan July 12th, 2009, 06:35 AM 9/10
nazrey July 16th, 2009, 10:54 AM by © wojtek lesiak
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wojtek_l/3725337802/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3725337976_f78d61698d_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3496/3725338178_10bbff0415_o.jpg
HK999 July 17th, 2009, 04:54 PM 7.5/10. intersting building.
nazrey July 18th, 2009, 08:36 PM From Malaysian forum
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/07/18/10/13/4488429_802x839.JPG
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/07/18/10/13/4488435_801x778.JPG
nazrey July 19th, 2009, 03:52 PM by WrldVoyagr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrldvoyagr/3604142605/in/set-72157619102592792/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3383/3604142605_951c3cb996_b.jpg
Jan Del Castillo July 28th, 2009, 01:24 AM 10. Excellent building. Regards.
bamz.. August 7th, 2009, 10:23 AM so far from petronas ..
i like d shape very unique ..
8.5/10
Spaner August 8th, 2009, 12:28 PM 9/10
deranged August 13th, 2009, 05:29 PM 7/10
wise_zech September 16th, 2009, 01:30 PM 10/10 i like this building
Squiggles October 10th, 2009, 12:41 AM 6.5/10
Tall, but very bland.
sharky_88 October 14th, 2009, 10:38 PM little werid, but not bad 7.5/10
xavarreiro October 16th, 2009, 06:51 PM 10/10
desertpunk October 25th, 2009, 01:06 PM Dubai on a leash. 7
makaveli6 October 28th, 2009, 04:50 PM 8/10
sieradzanin1 December 2nd, 2009, 04:50 PM 10/10:)
KAZAN RESIDENT December 25th, 2009, 02:39 AM 8,5/10
kuquito December 27th, 2009, 03:42 AM 9.5/10
A330LEX December 29th, 2009, 06:50 AM 9/10 a very unique building. I really like it.
Luxury Travel Malaysia (http://www.urbanenomads.com/Malaysia-Luxury-Travel.html)
New York Morning January 6th, 2010, 05:47 PM 6/10
national guard January 6th, 2010, 10:55 PM unique.
9/10
Heroico January 7th, 2010, 10:00 PM nice 9/10
ethan153 July 12th, 2010, 03:52 PM very special
9/10
Amboseli Daima July 16th, 2010, 08:46 AM 9.5 piece of art.
Heidjer July 16th, 2010, 03:00 PM I really don't like the combination of round and square elements on this building. 3.5/10
motozine July 19th, 2010, 01:20 PM unique design. :)
guy4versa4 August 12th, 2010, 07:29 PM my fav after petronas and trump tower
Will737 August 12th, 2010, 11:51 PM Absolutely stunning 9.5/10
OldBoy137 August 13th, 2010, 05:37 AM It's awesome! Second best in Kuala Lumpur INHO. 9.5/10.
c6josh August 18th, 2010, 07:59 AM voted 10/10 although short, this is one of the best designs I've seen in a building...BRAVO!
romanito August 23rd, 2010, 04:55 PM 9/10
kl 2020 ideas September 14th, 2010, 02:46 PM The tower is okay. 9/10
Dallas boi September 28th, 2010, 02:25 AM 6.5/10
RustySword September 28th, 2010, 11:12 AM 8/10
kansai78 October 14th, 2010, 06:55 AM http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/5079874223_78927d16ff_b.jpg
smg820 October 14th, 2010, 09:50 AM 8.5/10
nice building with helipad
:cheers:
ArtZ October 15th, 2010, 11:27 AM Nice, 9/10.
NorteN October 21st, 2010, 10:09 PM 8/10
Medy October 25th, 2010, 01:59 PM 7/10
Vrooms November 23rd, 2010, 05:50 PM One of my favourites in Malaysia!! 9/10.
kang rey November 23rd, 2010, 05:51 PM look's different...5/10
im_from_zw038 November 26th, 2010, 04:11 PM i just puked and laughed at the same time. Its adorable, but also a failure in my opinion. Just being different doesnt mean begin better. 4
MonsterPug November 27th, 2010, 10:57 PM 6.5/10
xavarreiro December 20th, 2010, 02:49 AM 7/10
nideru_90 December 23rd, 2010, 06:55 PM I really like that curve...
JBGC117 December 24th, 2010, 02:12 AM 9/10 :)
World 2 World December 24th, 2010, 06:26 PM :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4948676870_663ac7ca71_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rose_h/4948676870/
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4737682347_a7f64f0a1a_b.jpg
poshbakerloo December 25th, 2010, 07:55 PM 10/10 VERY nice, has a good ultra modern look with a retro vibe :)
KamZolt December 27th, 2010, 10:37 AM 7/10
Mimihitam January 6th, 2011, 10:43 AM 8/10
The Killer January 11th, 2011, 04:42 AM 7/10
Geocarlos January 13th, 2011, 07:34 PM 10/10
VECTROTALENZIS January 24th, 2011, 04:51 PM nicee! 8/10 :)
v-sun February 10th, 2011, 04:55 PM 8/10
triple-j April 13th, 2011, 01:38 PM Wish it was built a bit closer to KL city centre...and the facade needs major makeover...not that appealing during daylight...
anyway still 10 for me
nazrey April 16th, 2011, 08:42 PM http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/5620980210_74a7cbd4e6_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azmanabdullah/5620980210/in/photostream
rigatoni April 17th, 2011, 05:18 AM 6.5 - above average, but reeks of artsy ostentation.
mossimoh May 3rd, 2011, 07:57 PM 9.5/10
keroro91 May 8th, 2011, 07:33 PM 9/10
konik93 May 11th, 2011, 05:10 PM 7/10 ;)
konik93 May 11th, 2011, 05:16 PM It looks different from differents angles
6/10
yudibali2008 May 17th, 2011, 06:59 AM 8/10, very nice building
guy4versa4 May 28th, 2011, 02:35 AM http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/2494970392_99f33e105d_z.jpg
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee482/aismanggo1/3466592810_1fca10c52b_b.jpg
dnh310 May 29th, 2011, 04:17 AM 9/10
ddss May 30th, 2011, 09:46 PM Gave it 10/10... very easy on the eyes
mecanico242 June 5th, 2011, 08:31 AM 8/10
xJamaax June 6th, 2011, 12:44 PM Like the curve and the design!
8.5/10
thienzieyung November 2nd, 2011, 10:11 AM Very nice design and one of its kind!
9/10
Mike____ November 3rd, 2011, 02:42 AM 7.5/10
CxIxMaN November 20th, 2011, 09:48 AM I think It would be even nicer and iconic if it were taller and closer to the city center.
lophophora November 20th, 2011, 05:54 PM I like this scraper...awsome 9/10
Mr_Dru November 20th, 2011, 06:18 PM 7/10
luis fernando December 3rd, 2011, 03:53 AM 8/10 my friend
Wilz December 19th, 2011, 07:31 AM 8/10 from MEDAN, INDONESIA
tim1807 December 28th, 2011, 05:03 PM 7,5/10
Dakaro December 28th, 2011, 09:07 PM 8/10
Kanto January 15th, 2012, 07:18 PM Hideous 1/10 :puke:
thienzieyung January 22nd, 2012, 04:33 AM This skyscraper looks diffrent if viewed from different angles.
To be honest, it looks good from certain angles, and it looks very strange from another. If you view it from 1 Utama, it would look absolutely diffrent.
Anyway, here is a shot of it from SS16 Subang Jaya on a hazy morning.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6739415641_95673b99de_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thienzieyung/6739415641
And another 3 hours later when the haze really cleared!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6740947853_15d7cf8b2e_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thienzieyung/6740947853
pawel19-87 January 24th, 2012, 08:33 PM 8.0
UjaiDidida February 26th, 2012, 06:37 AM 9
the Menara Telekom is more good-looking than the butt-ugly Petronas Tower.
one doesnt simply insulting in skyscrapercity or u ll get banned!
btw, telekom tower hv futuristic design, nice although its built in 90s :)
10/10!
Mr_Dru March 12th, 2012, 09:42 PM Unique 10/10
samario1A March 15th, 2012, 01:44 AM wuao
Resa99 April 21st, 2012, 10:13 AM 9/10 Good Building :okay:
SydneyCity May 7th, 2012, 09:45 AM 8/10. Facade is a little boring.
ThatOneGuy May 25th, 2012, 02:37 AM Great. 7.5/10
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