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Pule May 16th, 2006, 10:48 AM Guys, what do you think of this design.
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PULE MOKHINE
SOCCER lovers can brace themselves for a new-look, state-of-the-art Soccer City stadium for the 2010 World Cup.
South Africa's home of soccer is set to undergo a revamp that will see the imposing venue situated in Crown Mines, Gauteng, increase its seating capacity to nearly 100 000.
To crown it all, the stadium has been designed in an isiNdebele calabash-like shape in order to provide the spectators with a real African feel.
Some people believe that the stadium will become South Africa's "theatre of dreams" once it is complete. According to Local Organising Commitee (LOC) chief excecutive Danny Jordaan, Soccer City stadium, which is expected to be the venue for the finals, is undergoing upgrading to reach world-class status.
Jordaan, who is working tirelessly to ensure the country hosts a successful global event in 2010, said the imposing stadium will hopefully be a tourist attraction as well.
"As Soccer City will house the plush Safa headquarters and become the venue for the finals, it is purely for this reason that its refurbishment is earmarked to increase its seating capacity from 70 000 to 98 000.
"A team of designers has been appointed for two years to look into the construction of the offices as the first phase," said Jordaan.
He said construction had already begun outside the stadium, whose offices will cost R60 million.
"The designers are hoping that the building of the structure will get under way in August in order for the stadium itself to be ready for use ahead of the Confederations Cup in 2009, a year before our world cup," he said.
Other stadiums earmarked for refurbishment are Greenpoint (Cape Town), King's Park Soccer (Ethekwini), Nelson Mandela (Port Elizabeth), Peter Mokaba (Polokwane) and Mbombela (Nelspruit).
"After initial hiccups regarding the new Western Cape municipality, the Cape Town city council has now agreed to create a special purpose vehicle to speed up the construction of a 68 000-seater stadium in time for the World Cup.
"The building is programmed to begin in November and will be completed in 2009," Jordaan said.
The LOC chief executive explained that the construction of King's Park, with 58 000 seats, would begin in November, and the Nelson Mandela stadium (60 000 capacity) would be ready by the end of 2008.
Polokwane, which takes about 48 000 spectators, is expected to be ready by November. Mbombela, which absorbs 50 000 fans, will have its preliminary design programme done, also in November.
"Venues such as Rustenburg, Loftus Versfeld, Ellis Park and Bloemfontein require minor upgrading and essentially the constuction of temporary facilities ," he said.
Jordaan said facilities for those venues would be planned towards the end of this year.
Quintana May 16th, 2006, 11:07 AM Alianz Arena rip-off
victory May 16th, 2006, 11:28 AM Nice looking stadium, but too much money will go to waste with the decorations on the outside. If money was cheap, and RSA didn't have better things to spend it on then great, but IMHO its just not worth it.
Make it just as great on the inside, but spend the majority of the money on something worthwhile (HIV/AIDS medication perhaps?)
highburysouljah May 16th, 2006, 02:35 PM is it still called soccer in SA
2005 May 16th, 2006, 03:13 PM Alianz Arena rip-off
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Is that all you can say?
Mekky II May 16th, 2006, 03:13 PM http://planetsoarer.com/tyres/img_tyre_pilotPreceda.jpg
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Sparks May 16th, 2006, 04:26 PM Looks great, although there will be a concern in getting it finished on time.
BobDaBuilder May 16th, 2006, 04:40 PM They haven't started building yet? Running things a bit close aren't we?
Quintana May 16th, 2006, 04:45 PM :| :| :|
Is that all you can say?
Yes
Jack Rabbit Slim May 16th, 2006, 06:00 PM Well, I think I'm rightin saying that they're not building this stadium from scratch, they are only upgrading an orginal stadium, so it shouldn't take too long to build. The stadium has to be ready by 2009, construction starts Novermber of this year....could be cutting it a bit close possibly....but id needs must they can do what they did with the Allianz stadium and work round the clock 24hrs a day.
Doesn't look like a fantasicly original or ground-breaking stadium, but still a pretty good design, and 100,000 capacity is impressive. I was under the impression though that they had approved this stadium ages ago...I mean, they knew they'd have to have it for the world cup, so I don't see why they tooks so long approving it...
This will be a test for SA, they need to prove to the world that they are capable of holding massive events like the world cup, and delays in stadium construction or other faults in the tournament itself could spell disaster...lets hope it goes smoothly though! :)
:cheers:
Mo Rush May 16th, 2006, 11:04 PM I doubt the stadium will look anything like that.
Mo Rush May 16th, 2006, 11:21 PM They haven't started building yet? Running things a bit close aren't we?
1. the stadium capacity already stands at 70,000
2. we wont be hiring multiplex....
3. check the betting odds for this stadium being completed before wembley...
Its AlL gUUd May 16th, 2006, 11:25 PM 1. the stadium capacity already stands at 70,000
2. we wont be hiring multiplex....
3. check the betting odds for this stadium being completed before wembley...
now there wasn't a need to take a little snipe at Wembley was there?
take snipes at multiplex all you like, they deserve it :)
Mo Rush May 16th, 2006, 11:39 PM now there wasn't a need to take a little snipe at Wembley was there?
talk down to multiplex all you like, they deserve it :)
just kidding...just concern met with concern.
Jack Rabbit Slim May 17th, 2006, 12:44 AM now there wasn't a need to take a little snipe at Wembley was there?
take snipes at multiplex all you like, they deserve it :)
Kinda ironic aint it? Hiring the crappiest construction company in the world to build the greatest stadium in the world.... ;)
:cheers:
Mo Rush May 17th, 2006, 01:11 AM Kinda ironic aint it? Hiring the crappiest construction company in the world to build the greatest stadium in the world.... ;)
:cheers:
after the success of stadium australia they were far from the worst...
David Byrne May 17th, 2006, 02:53 AM Stadium looks like an ashtray.
David Byrne May 17th, 2006, 03:00 AM http://i4.tinypic.com/zw0o0p.jpg
Jack Rabbit Slim May 17th, 2006, 03:45 AM ^^ You're going the right way to get yet another banning BuBomb!
Biakko May 17th, 2006, 04:00 AM This is horrible !
Paulo2004 May 17th, 2006, 04:46 AM Sorry, not my cup of tea!
Durbsboi May 17th, 2006, 11:00 AM Nice looking stadium, but too much money will go to waste with the decorations on the outside. If money was cheap, and RSA didn't have better things to spend it on then great, but IMHO its just not worth it.
Make it just as great on the inside, but spend the majority of the money on something worthwhile (HIV/AIDS medication perhaps?)
Why does everyone think that SA are poor? when was the last time we loaned money from another country??? huh? have been to the SA Forum?
Have seen the development taking place in SA? We have got a goverment that alocates funds to the different departments (i.e Health, Transport, Soprts & Recreation, & so on ) So each department uses that alocated funds for their purpose's, much like all the other countries in the world, we have got major investors coming in for 2010, so hence alot of money is being pumped into this event, so if it is in our budget to construct a stadium of this nature we will! Dont be lecturing us on what we should do with out money, would you like to be our Finance minster?
Thanx Mo for stepping up for us, & yes here in SA we have got dedicated workers who get the job done quickly, hell we just put up a luxury 10 storey building in one of Durbans up & coming area's in just 6 months, & this wasnt any small project! it has over 120 flats, two rising towers over 20 shops, & over 15 offices. So yeh we are more than capable of having it built before the 2009 deadline, the only prob we face is if the different workers union decide to strike, other than that we have no problems.
Durbsboi May 17th, 2006, 11:04 AM http://i4.tinypic.com/zw0o0p.jpg
^^ :rofl:LOL, brilliant bubomb, am not a fan of this design as well, but it is piss easy to design.
Durbsboi May 17th, 2006, 11:09 AM http://planetsoarer.com/tyres/img_tyre_pilotPreceda.jpg
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Just to give you a bit of a history lesson, as I have learned from Pule, the shape of the stadium is not of a tire as you pointed out Mekky, but it is of a tradional beer bowl which was invented by the Ndebel's (different group of natives to SA) it was used by most of the natives for the same purpose, so I think they should serve beers in that type of bowl in this stadium for the world cup, I'm sure the british will love that, wide brim beer bowls!
& the sponer should be either Castle Lager (local beer) or Carling Black Label (also a local fav)
victory May 17th, 2006, 11:36 AM Why does everyone think that SA are poor? when was the last time we loaned money from another country??? huh? have been to the SA Forum?
Never said you were poor. but there is a severe HIV problem in your country, and many thousands upon thousands affected do not receive vital medication to both help themselves and prevent the spread of the disease.
Then their are other african countries you could help out as well.
Im not just against this stadium's extragagent design, but against all such stadiums around the world that spend too much money on looks alone.
Im sorry, I dont mean to offend you, and I have nothing against Sth Africa (except the thugboks), but I just dont like this kind of extragagence on any stadium.
SA BOY May 17th, 2006, 11:44 AM as apposed to the NHS crisis , the education crisis etc in the UK and you wasting money bombing people back into the stone age???
At least this is money spent on nation building and developing infrastructure and bringing the counrty into the 1st world.
Durbsboi May 17th, 2006, 11:52 AM Never said you were poor. but there is a severe HIV problem in your country, and many thousands upon thousands affected do not receive vital medication to both help themselves and prevent the spread of the disease.
Then their are other african countries you could help out as well.
Im not just against this stadium's extragagent design, but against all such stadiums around the world that spend too much money on looks alone.
Im sorry, I dont mean to offend you, and I have nothing against Sth Africa (except the thugboks), but I just dont like this kind of extragagence on any stadium.
Nah its cool bro, fully understand what you mean, but the money has already been alocated, so we cant do anything, regarding the HIV situation with the medications, more & more clinics have been set up around the Country to supply sufferers to the medication, & government has its AIDS prevention campaigns set up everywhere.
But I must stress again the money has been alocated to the design & construction of this event, & Government & the whole of SA want to put on a spectacle that the world wont forget, & we want to make SA a must visit place for everyone, so we are going all out on this one, the 1995 rugby world cup was a small step & so was the cricket world cup, now we are getting the world greatest sporting event that everyone will be watching so we want it to be great :)
Oh & we dont like your Aussie rugby team too :D
Davee May 17th, 2006, 12:12 PM [QUOTE=Durbsboi]Why does everyone think that SA are poor? QUOTE]
I think it's just a perception that a lot of people still have from the time SA was so isolated from the western world. Many people think in the west that if you don't play ball with you must be poor!! Because you were out of the circle for many years - that image grew. Growing up in NZ we were lead to believe it was all crime, racial hatred and a infustruction collapsing on itself - thats just the way it was. I was a young teenager during the 1980's NZ Springbock Tour - and the violence and trouble that caused was horrific - thats how powerfully people were feeling about SA at the time.
What these threads have been showing is how modern and vibrant SA is and I mean it is AMAZING. Your country shares many of the same problems we all face in our own. You have some unique issues to deal with - but so then does NZ and alike.
Lots of people have negative views about NZ - but then, they have never been to the country - that's just the way it goes unforuntatley.
The world is just realizing what a giant SA is going to be in the future - it will take a few years to get rid of the old stereotypical images people have. You guys have a bright future. You have the socar world cup to prove that.
Keep up your cool threads - you guys are showing us the real fantastic SA :)
Mo Rush May 17th, 2006, 12:17 PM Be sure to visit the durban, cape town and johannesburg galleries in the south africa section of SSC
victory May 17th, 2006, 01:55 PM ...and you wasting money bombing people back into the stone age???
I'd say we are helping to liberate people OUT of the stone age, but each to his own.
Mo Rush May 17th, 2006, 02:14 PM I'd say we are helping to liberate people OUT of the stone age, but each to his own.
no major comment regarding the liberation reference...that belief is what id call a stone age belief..but everyone has their opinion...lets keep this thread relevant to the topic...
Gecko1989 May 18th, 2006, 02:10 AM I think the stadium looks great I love the african style. But Can they really build a 100,000 seater stadium in only 4 years? Well mabye I am just over reacting but I know it takes them almost a year just to build a small highrise residental building. But then again mabye I dont have a clue what the hell I am talking about and I am fine with that. Anyway it looks great I wish the would build somthing like that in canada dam our stadiums suck!
Jack Rabbit Slim May 18th, 2006, 03:01 AM ^^ I think a few people are getting a bit confused here. They arn't building a 100,000 capacity stadium from scratch, they are just expanding a curent stadium that has a current capacity of around 70,000.
:cheers:
Durbsboi May 18th, 2006, 04:08 PM Tell'm Jack!
Its AlL gUUd May 21st, 2006, 03:32 PM Is this really gonna be cost effective? do you really need a stadium of that size
Mo Rush May 21st, 2006, 04:32 PM Is this really gonna be cost effective? do you really need a stadium of that size
its world cup final...this is the one project that were really going all out for...its 98,000 seat stadium or nothing...no athletics track...its already a 70,000 seat stadium...if it was to be started from scratch then id be worried...its actually just upgrading it in many ways for 2010...even if that includes a new roof and 25,000 extra seats...
Giorgio May 21st, 2006, 05:23 PM Never said you were poor. but there is a severe HIV problem in your country, and many thousands upon thousands affected do not receive vital medication to both help themselves and prevent the spread of the disease.
Not to mention some of the worlds most horrific crime statistics.
If your going to blow money on a stadium when you have such major flaws to deal with elsewhere, atleast build a good looking stadium. My goodness.
Mo Rush May 21st, 2006, 05:35 PM ']Not to mention some of the worlds most horrific crime statistics.
If your going to blow money on a stadium when you have such major flaws to deal with elsewhere, atleast build a good looking stadium. My goodness.
oh please greece is so deep in debt it cant even breathe....talk about major flaws when it takes u 7 years to put a new roof on an old bowl..talk about blowing money...when ure gonna be paying off debt for the next 75 years...south africa is spending what it can afford..
Kampflamm May 21st, 2006, 06:45 PM I doubt the stadium is really gonna look like that. Looks a bit too fancy.
nomarandlee May 21st, 2006, 08:10 PM The stadiums looks unique to me. I don't know if it is great or not but it at is different which I can almost always admire in its own right.
In terms of the money thing who are people to say? These are elected leaders that are putting forth the project. If South Africans feel it is their priority and important and worth it for them to build it then go for it. Their leaders will be held to account whatever they do. It is not like they are building 10 of them or planning to throw 20 billions at an Olympics.
As far as the AIDS and crime rates. Well, yea, those are deadly serious but other countries have problems and still build things As far as the AIDS and crime rates. Well, yea, those are deadly serious but other countries have problems and still build things not "needed". Is there are not societal issues that Japan, USA, Germany, Korea, etc. couldn't throw money at as well as opposed to stadiums as well.
If diverting funds to "important needs" is an issue then why not just have the Olympics and world cup in Norway or Sweden every time (or whatever country rates the lowest on societal ills by everybody). Better ONE elite modern stadium in South Africa then billions upon billions for nukes in a place like Pakistan where an obscene part of the GDP goes to the military.
It is there kind of their own little treat to themselves after decades of isolation to splurge just a little bit and can understand the wanting to. Plus, it will give them a real proud top tier national stadium when it is over (one that will be used I presume).
Its AlL gUUd May 21st, 2006, 09:29 PM its world cup final...this is the one project that were really going all out for...its 98,000 seat stadium or nothing...no athletics track...its already a 70,000 seat stadium...if it was to be started from scratch then id be worried...its actually just upgrading it in many ways for 2010...even if that includes a new roof and 25,000 extra seats...
but what happens after the final? can SA really sustain a 100,000 seater stadia, or will it just be a white elephant?
Jack Rabbit Slim May 22nd, 2006, 04:05 AM ^^ That's what I'm concerned about!
Giorgio May 22nd, 2006, 09:57 AM oh please greece is so deep in debt it cant even breathe....talk about major flaws when it takes u 7 years to put a new roof on an old bowl..talk about blowing money...when ure gonna be paying off debt for the next 75 years...south africa is spending what it can afford..
Excuse me, this thread has nothing to do with Greece.
Now back to topic,
How can you tell me SA can afford it when you have 20 million people below the poverty line. Please, get your priorities straight.
Im simply saying that it would be more beneficial to fix all the major flaws in SA before even thinking of blowing money on this stadium.
thryve May 22nd, 2006, 10:12 AM ']Excuse me, this thread has nothing to do with Greece.
Now back to topic,
How can you tell me SA can afford it when you have 20 million people below the poverty line. Please, get your priorities straight.
Im simply saying that it would be more beneficial to fix all the major flaws in SA before even thinking of blowing money on this stadium.
Not that I agree with anything Mo Rush says, but c'mon Giorgos, it all benefits the people eventually.
What, should South Africa ignore all big opportunities that could bring cash flow into the country?
You have no idea what you are talking about...
-thryve
Giorgio May 22nd, 2006, 10:21 AM Not that I agree with anything Mo Rush says, but c'mon Giorgos, it all benefits the people eventually.
What, should South Africa ignore all big opportunities that could bring cash flow into the country?
Excuse the fact that Im arguing your word Andrew but the cash flow will be very minimal wont it?
Durbsboi May 22nd, 2006, 12:03 PM ']Not to mention some of the worlds most horrific crime statistics.
If your going to blow money on a stadium when you have such major flaws to deal with elsewhere, atleast build a good looking stadium. My goodness.
Ya like we the worlds most dangerous country, I dont see suicide bombers aorund, do you? our country is not under attack from a looney president looking for oil? You live in Asstralia, & you the first to point out racists, why dont you tell us the figures of the racial crime againts the natives in Auz? huh? why dont you tell us about the protests before the commonwelath games. Do me a favour go to Perth city center & scream out loud that SA is shit, 1000buks says you will get moor'd so badly you would forget that you were in Asstaralia.
Every country has their fare share of crime, & the figure of 20 million people below the poverty line? where the hell did you get that from? are you counting school children & babies as well? cause they have to go through schooling first before ataining a job.
About blowing our money on a stadium, its all budgeteed for & unlike Athens we getting alot of international investors & support, they want to see this event a success. Which most of you guys here want the oppositte.
oh yeh & your comment on good looking stadiums , the bowl of that Athens olympic stadium is soooo original, how did they come up with such a remarkable design? mind blowing I tell you! (PS: by no means was that comment a racial attack on the greek public, if you deem it as a racial comment, I feel sorry for you)
Durbsboi May 22nd, 2006, 12:31 PM but what happens after the final? can SA really sustain a 100,000 seater stadia, or will it just be a white elephant?
oh dear how on earth are we going to fill the stadium again :?
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3358/fnb021jx.jpg
Oh my I wonder why the stadium is filled up?
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/695/fnb042hn.jpg
PS: Soccer City is the home stadium to SA's most supported club, the might AMAKOSI (Kaiser Chiefs) {look in FIF06 they there too along with Orlando Pirates} So they have the biggest fan support in the country, I dont see a problem of filling the stadium.
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/2138/fnb068qb.jpg
The weekend that went by, Durbans Kings Park (ABSA stadium) hosted the final of a cup competition, which 2 of SA's biggest clubs competed in, it was a huge success & in front of a capacity crowd of 52000 people in Durban.
Its AlL gUUd May 22nd, 2006, 02:09 PM I don't mean just for one-off occasions,
In England a certain capacity stadium is built if there is reason that the stadium will be used regularly and filled regularly, most stadiums in england have near capacity crowds. would the club team that use this stadium have a regular attendance of over 80- 90,000?
this is what i meant
Durbsboi May 22nd, 2006, 02:15 PM I wont say 90 000 week in & week out, but a strong 75 000 - 80 000 should be present
Zorba May 22nd, 2006, 03:16 PM I think its funny that whenever giorgos comments on this thread or any thread related to South Africa, Mo Rush is always the first to just attack the Athens Olympic Stadium even if it had nothing to do with the converstation.
It's like he cant really generate a real counter to anything that giorgos says so he just sinks to the level of a 6 year old who just got his feelings hurt and retaliates by bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic.
I'm not saying that I even agree with what giorgos is saying(because in this case I dont) but the South African forumers(especially Mo Rush) could show a tad bit more maturity.
victory May 22nd, 2006, 04:04 PM Do me a favour go to Perth city center & scream out loud that SA is shit, 1000buks says you will get moor'd so badly you would forget that you were in Asstaralia.
:weirdo:
You have obviously never been to Australia.
Durbsboi May 22nd, 2006, 05:08 PM ^^y u say that?
& You have obviously never been to South Africa.
Durbsboi May 22nd, 2006, 05:40 PM I think its funny that whenever giorgos comments on this thread or any thread related to ........................................................tad bit more maturity.
yes Mo does bring up the Athens topic quite alot when dealing with Giorgos, but it is relevant to what was being said, that is if you read it carefully, giorgos was implying that SA is blowing all their money on a stadium that doesnt satisfy him, with out even finding out where the funding for the stadium is coming from or how it is structured & budgeted, hence Mo was just reminding him about his home countries own financial problems, hence the relevance to bring up Athens, I mean besides that, there is nothing to talk about?
Look here all I can say is, if you want to be optimistic so long, just dont speak bad about SA, coz when 2010 comes along, we will put on a fantastic event, I dont know if it will be the best ever, but being the first country in Africa to host the event, I'm sure we will do a good job. We already recieving backing from most African countries, & other international countries, Sepp Blatter loves the country, so I dont really give a shit if you dont. Quite frankly I think most of the optimist are just mad coz we hosting it.
Dont worry your turn will come soon, maybe in like 20-32 years, its not that long.
........................wait & see
Giorgio May 22nd, 2006, 05:47 PM Ya like we the worlds most dangerous country, I dont see suicide bombers aorund, do you? our country is not under attack from a looney president looking for oil? You live in Asstralia, & you the first to point out racists, why dont you tell us the figures of the racial crime againts the natives in Auz? huh? why dont you tell us about the protests before the commonwelath games. Do me a favour go to Perth city center & scream out loud that SA is shit, 1000buks says you will get moor'd so badly you would forget that you were in Asstaralia.
Every country has their fare share of crime, & the figure of 20 million people below the poverty line? where the hell did you get that from? are you counting school children & babies as well? cause they have to go through schooling first before ataining a job.
About blowing our money on a stadium, its all budgeteed for & unlike Athens we getting alot of international investors & support, they want to see this event a success. Which most of you guys here want the oppositte.
oh yeh & your comment on good looking stadiums , the bowl of that Athens olympic stadium is soooo original, how did they come up with such a remarkable design? mind blowing I tell you! (PS: by no means was that comment a racial attack on the greek public, if you deem it as a racial comment, I feel sorry for you)
How is it NOT racial when you bring in a totally unrelated nation into the disagreement? Clearly you are running out of sane arguments and so you try to make up with it by attacking Australia.
I love how I make a comment and then all of a sudden a thread about SA turns into Mo Rush's anti OAKA propeganda. Its sad actually. The other sad thing is his signature. Since when we Cape Town an Olympic city? Never was and never will be (atleast until the AIDS issue is extinguished and the Crime levels decrease dramatically).
I came to give my feedback on the design and I am instantly greeted with Mo Rush's crap.
As for the roof...Im not even going to bother. Your envy is so un appealing. Clearly it is envy otherwise you wouldnt be going on about it (we NEVER start the roof discussion).
I think you both should grow up. Athens has nothing to do with the crucial issues in SA like crime. Dont try and bring down another city for your own sick pleasure.
Now lets continue discussions on this tyre....I mean...ashtray...I mean....stadium and why it shouldnt be built when Im donating $1 a day to African children.
Giorgio May 22nd, 2006, 05:49 PM yes Mo does bring up the Athens topic quite alot when dealing with Giorgos, but it is relevant to what was being said, that is if you read it carefully, giorgos was implying that SA is blowing all their money on a stadium that doesnt satisfy him, with out even finding out where the funding for the stadium is coming from or how it is structured & budgeted, hence Mo was just reminding him about his home countries own financial problems, hence the relevance to bring up Athens, I mean besides that, there is nothing to talk about?
That dosnt justify why Athens was brought up in an SA thread.
Clearly it was a racial taunt.
Durbsboi May 22nd, 2006, 06:02 PM ^^ This is a forum, nothing we say will actualy take place, like you & me can be fighting for ever, but the real world wont even know whats taking place...ok?
I was wrong to make that statement, what I should have said was the names of the respective forumers relevant to the statement instead of generalizing on all greeks, for that, I apolagise.
C'mon Gioяgos we just had a good conv in the morning about keeping our cool, we got different opinions fine, but none of it needs to lead to this, each of us attacking our countries & may I remind you again that nothing we say or do in this forums actulay takes place, so no matter how much you dont like our stadiums, its going to be built, no matter how much Mo envy's athens for taking the 2004 olympics, tough luck, it already happened & it was a success. So lets look forward to good things, not question what the country is doing, if SA were not aware of what they doing then I think this major boom thats taking place all over our country is fruitless, why are these people investing millions of dollars in our country if they didnt have faith in us?
C'mon bro wake up & smell something, there is no point in fighting....we cool :poke:
this will also be posted in the Barcelona- Kings of Europe thread.
Zorba May 22nd, 2006, 11:54 PM yes Mo does bring up the Athens topic quite alot when dealing with Giorgos, but it is relevant to what was being said, that is if you read it carefully, giorgos was implying that SA is blowing all their money on a stadium that doesnt satisfy him, with out even finding out where the funding for the stadium is coming from or how it is structured & budgeted, hence Mo was just reminding him about his home countries own financial problems, hence the relevance to bring up Athens, I mean besides that, there is nothing to talk about?
Look here all I can say is, if you want to be optimistic so long, just dont speak bad about SA, coz when 2010 comes along, we will put on a fantastic event, I dont know if it will be the best ever, but being the first country in Africa to host the event, I'm sure we will do a good job. We already recieving backing from most African countries, & other international countries, Sepp Blatter loves the country, so I dont really give a shit if you dont. Quite frankly I think most of the optimist are just mad coz we hosting it.
Dont worry your turn will come soon, maybe in like 20-32 years, its not that long.
........................wait & see
You dont need to try to convince me that South Africa will have a successful World Cup. I know they will, and I am planning on attending it(so long as Greece makes it).
I agree with you on the issue, the only thing is that it becomes quite annoying when Mo Rush makes a visible effort to put down the Athens 2004 Olympics in some way in all of his posts.
If there were other non-Greek forumers who shared the same views as Giorgos and all posted their views, I highly doubt Mo Rush would respond to them by pointing out problems in their country,but since giorgos is a Greek forumer Mo feels it is his duty to put down the Athens 2004 Olympics or the Olympic Stadium(which is one of the top athletics stadiums in the world btw).
Like I said I agree with you on this issue, I just wanted to point out a double standard.
Coventry Nutter May 23rd, 2006, 12:20 AM South Africa is not a safe country. I know three expats that have returned do Scotland due to the violence in South African cities. It must be bad if they class Glasgow as a safer option!!
victory May 23rd, 2006, 04:06 AM ^^y u say that?
& You have obviously never been to South Africa.
Well I'll admit two things
1) I couldn't completely understand your post, with the hopeless spelling and all
2) I have never been to South Africa. But all I have said is that SA has a big HIV problem, and you cannot deny that.
Giorgio May 23rd, 2006, 09:27 AM ^^ This is a forum, nothing we say will actualy take place, like you & me can be fighting for ever, but the real world wont even know whats taking place...ok?
I was wrong to make that statement, what I should have said was the names of the respective forumers relevant to the statement instead of generalizing on all greeks, for that, I apolagise.
C'mon Gioяgos we just had a good conv in the morning about keeping our cool, we got different opinions fine, but none of it needs to lead to this, each of us attacking our countries & may I remind you again that nothing we say or do in this forums actulay takes place, so no matter how much you dont like our stadiums, its going to be built, no matter how much Mo envy's athens for taking the 2004 olympics, tough luck, it already happened & it was a success. So lets look forward to good things, not question what the country is doing, if SA were not aware of what they doing then I think this major boom thats taking place all over our country is fruitless, why are these people investing millions of dollars in our country if they didnt have faith in us?
C'mon bro wake up & smell something, there is no point in fighting....we cool :poke:
this will also be posted in the Barcelona- Kings of Europe thread.'
I never attacked any country. You were the one who attacked (or was it Mo)
First you and Mo rush tag Greece and then you go on to insult Australia. You even tell us it isnt a racist post! Get it right...
Your digging your hole deeper, just stop pointing the finger and get your friend Mo Rush to stop picking on me and Athens. Its evident he is since he brought up 2004 in this thread.
Durbsboi May 23rd, 2006, 09:50 AM ']'
I never attacked any country.
']'Not to mention some of the worlds most horrific crime statistics.
If your going to blow money on a stadium when you have such major flaws to deal with elsewhere, atleast build a good looking stadium. My goodness.
ahem :|
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First you and Mo rush tag Greece and then you go on to insult Australia. You even tell us it isnt a racist post! Get it right....
Yes I wasnt attacking any country, I made reference to others as well,its not my problem if you can just point out those two country's. you said that SA has shocking crime stats, I was just making you aware that we not the only country that have crime problems too.
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Your digging your hole deeper, just stop pointing the finger and get your friend Mo Rush to stop picking on me and Athens. Its evident he is since he brought up 2004 in this thread.
What hole? I'm not pointing fingers, just giving you answers to your questions & correcting you when you wrong, thats all. & pleez the way you make it as if me & Mo have meetings to decide how to destroy athens, we aint pinky & the brain ok, i know him only on this forum. Now lets be adults here & stop this crap.
Durbsboi May 23rd, 2006, 10:17 AM 1) I couldn't completely understand your post, with the hopeless spelling and all
Here we go ladies & gentleman "Mr Perfect", if some spelling is wrong he cant understand it. So sorry I will make sure I use the spell check function after I type my post, oh wait they dont have one here, so I will first type my reply in a program that has that function then after I dotted the 'i's & crossed the t's I will post my reply.
They say that the human brain is so powerful that it can read a word as long as the first & last letters are in its correct place. I guess we all not blessed.
2) I have never been to South Africa. But all I have said is that SA has a big HIV problem, and you cannot deny that.
I'm not denying that, all I said that we have a proper budget in place that are seeing to the matter of HIV/AIDS problem, India & china's HIV problems are bigger than our's, but not saying that its a good thing. What else can we do? we are distributing medication, we are sending out the warnings of unpropected intercourse, if people cannot adhere to all this what else can one do? as the saying go's "You can lead a horse to the water, but cannot make it drink"
Giorgio May 23rd, 2006, 10:24 AM What hole? I'm not pointing fingers, just giving you answers to your questions & correcting you when you wrong, thats all. & pleez the way you make it as if me & Mo have meetings to decide how to destroy athens, we aint pinky & the brain ok, i know him only on this forum. Now lets be adults here & stop this crap.
Oh no I cant even state my opinion now. Read what I wrote. I think id rather see the money go elsewhere. That was MY OPINION. Mo Rush decided to bash it and you decided to help him. Now your not getting anywhere so id be quiet if I were you.
mauritius gunner May 28th, 2006, 01:23 AM Why does everyone think that SA are poor? when was the last time we loaned money from another country??? huh? have been to the SA Forum?
Have seen the development taking place in SA? We have got a goverment that alocates funds to the different departments (i.e Health, Transport, Soprts & Recreation, & so on ) So each department uses that alocated funds for their purpose's, much like all the other countries in the world, we have got major investors coming in for 2010, so hence alot of money is being pumped into this event, so if it is in our budget to construct a stadium of this nature we will! Dont be lecturing us on what we should do with out money, would you like to be our Finance minster?
Thanx Mo for stepping up for us, & yes here in SA we have got dedicated workers who get the job done quickly, hell we just put up a luxury 10 storey building in one of Durbans up & coming area's in just 6 months, & this wasnt any small project! it has over 120 flats, two rising towers over 20 shops, & over 15 offices. So yeh we are more than capable of having it built before the 2009 deadline, the only prob we face is if the different workers union decide to strike, other than that we have no problems.
SA is poor. Just because 5% of you enjoy a plush lifestyle and fannying around in complete ignorance of the fact
I think in reality, when the tournament is over, all the africans go back to their townships riddled with AIDS and warfare.
Meanwhile a few whites and corrupt politicians reap in billions of Rand and return to their 'fortresses' called homes
Rock Hudson May 28th, 2006, 12:10 PM I'm looking forward to this tournament, but i'm afraid I may be robbed or bummed by some black savages with bones through their noses, or end up in a large black cooking pot with an apple in my mouth!!!!! What advice can you give me to avoid such a scenario?
Kampflamm May 28th, 2006, 01:36 PM Considering the state of your mental health, I think being "bummed by some black savages" should be the least of your worries.
SYDNEY May 28th, 2006, 01:49 PM SA is poor. Just because 5% of you enjoy a plush lifestyle and fannying around in complete ignorance of the fact
I think in reality, when the tournament is over, all the africans go back to their townships riddled with AIDS and warfare.
Meanwhile a few whites and corrupt politicians reap in billions of Rand and return to their 'fortresses' called homes
Amen - I couldn't have said it better myself and I speak from experience.
Mo Rush May 28th, 2006, 02:04 PM Amen - I couldn't have said it better myself and I speak from experience.
how lovely of you to join in.
mauritius gunner May 28th, 2006, 04:53 PM I'm looking forward to this tournament, but i'm afraid I may be robbed or bummed by some black savages with bones through their noses, or end up in a large black cooking pot with an apple in my mouth!!!!! What advice can you give me to avoid such a scenario?
Prick- mods please get this racist biggot banned!
skaP187 May 28th, 2006, 09:00 PM But eh any more pics of the design? 100.000 cap. that ain't shit! that's quit a bit!
who is the architect and stuff?
skaP187 May 28th, 2006, 09:03 PM This forum is about stadiums no? I don't give a shit about the rest... specialy if I don't know about them and the only thing I know is that in 2010 the world cup is in SA so enough prospect of designs and stuff like that, so guys get your act together and let's get down to what this forum is all about!
Durbsboi May 29th, 2006, 11:44 AM Amen - I couldn't have said it better myself and I speak from experience.
His alive! His alive! :runaway:
Durbsboi May 29th, 2006, 11:46 AM I'm looking forward to this tournament, but i'm afraid I may be robbed or bummed by some black savages with bones through their noses, or end up in a large black cooking pot with an apple in my mouth!!!!! What advice can you give me to avoid such a scenario?
But from what people have told me, I thought you like to get bummed?
ok you must wear bulls testicles around your neck & eat chicken shit everyday to keep the guys with the bones through their noses away from you
skaP187 May 29th, 2006, 11:53 AM ehem more designs please... or just give me the names and I'll do it meself
Durbsboi May 29th, 2006, 11:55 AM Regarding the designs & the architects, as Mo said in the 2010 thread, all will be revield after Germany, so we will have to wait :(
Durbsboi May 29th, 2006, 11:57 AM ehem more designs please... or just give me the names and I'll do it meself
sorry, thought I'd have some fun of my own :D
skaP187 May 29th, 2006, 03:58 PM Regarding the designs & the architects, as Mo said in the 2010 thread, all will be revield after Germany, so we will have to wait :(
Juli 2006 it will be then! :runaway: :runaway:
Durbsboi May 30th, 2006, 11:06 AM Juli 2006 it will be then! :runaway: :runaway:
Yes , we dont want to spoil Germany's fun now, do we :D
skaP187 May 30th, 2006, 11:43 AM Yes , we dont want to spoil Germany's fun now, do we :D
Well... being Dutch I would not realy mind :) ... but I guess I have no choice do I? Two long long months pffff
dysan1 May 31st, 2006, 12:00 AM oh my its like stepping into the looney bin...nutters attacking you from each and every corner...hmmm...does intelligent conversations take place anymore? or is it a constant pissing contest???
As for the stadia and south africa. Yes things will get done. We have some of the most talented engineers and architects in the world.
For those of you that state that the soccer world cup will rob the poor of a future, obviously you dont understand the benefits associated with the event.
SA's economy is growing at 5% pa, the government has launched a R380bn ($64bn) infrastucture project for the next 4 years, to totally transform many aging services. These will directly improve the lives of the majority of the people.
This show of investment by government is working as a signal to international investors that South Africa means business about becoming a world powerhouse (which we will become). This is inturn bringing in other foreign investors. The billions these people are pumping into South Africa's economy is having the direct effect of reducing unemployment (which has fallen over the past few years).
Figures are one thing, you can all speak about AIDS and poverty, but a forward thinking country can never solve those two problems by merely throwing money at them, they have to fix them from the root of the problem, and that is education, employment and investment. And SA is doing all those things correctly. Yes crime is a problem, but as with the above mentioned factors, you have to solve the root of the problem, not treat the symptoms.
Focus must always be on: Education, Employment and Investment, they will filter out and solve the other problems over time.
So either be perpetual pesimists, or use your brains and think out of the box. As a people South Africans have a resolve unlike anyone else in the world.
Come visit our cities, see the development, see the social effects this is having and then tell me that we are going to the shitter...hey just visit our forum to see what the world tends to ignore about africa and its progress
Mo Rush October 11th, 2007, 02:14 AM http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/soccercitynight.jpg
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Kuvvaci October 11th, 2007, 01:29 PM will final match play here?
Durbsboi October 11th, 2007, 01:51 PM Opening & Final match
www.sercan.de October 11th, 2007, 02:24 PM My fav stadium for WC 2010
need more informations
how many suits will it have?
Quintana October 11th, 2007, 03:46 PM Finally another proper football stadium for the final again. Too many finals (10 out of 18) have been hosted in athletic stadiums or other stadiums with the stands miles from the pitch imo.
Montevideo 1930
http://www.worldcup.isn.pl/pictures/stadiums/centenario.jpg
Rome 1934
http://www.worldcup.isn.pl/pictures/stadiums/del_pnf.jpg
Paris 1938
http://msfotbal.galaxie.name/galerie/historie/stadecolombes.jpg
Rio de Janeiro 1950
http://www.fussballportal.de/images/wm/654146.jpg
Bern 1954
http://www.bolanaarea.com/est_copa1954-wankdorf-1.jpg
Solna (Stockholm) 1958
http://www.aik.se/fotboll/historik/bilder/rasunda1.jpg
Ñuñoa (Santiago de Chile) 1962
http://www.uniacc.cl/periodismo/internet/Estadio%20Nacional%202.jpg
London 1966
http://www.worldcup.za.pl/stadiony/1966/wembley.jpg
Mexico City 1970
http://www.bolanaarea.com/est_copa_1970-azteca-1.gif
Munich 1974
http://www.stadionwelt.de/wmspecial/images/wm_magazin/olympiastadion_580.jpg
Buenos Aires 1978
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/south_america/argentina/buenos_aires_liberti1.jpg
Madrid 1982
http://www.stadiumguide.com/bernabeuold5.jpg
Mexico City 1986
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/architecture/stadium_design/pictures/mexico_city_azteca/mexico_city_azteca1.jpg
Rome 1990
http://www.ilcalcio.net/immagini/olimpico-2.jpg
Pasadena (Los Angeles) 1994
http://images.sports.cn/2004/12/17/429938A.jpg
Saint-Denis (Paris) 1998
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Panorama_stade_de_France.jpg/750px-Panorama_stade_de_France.jpg
Yokohama 2002
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/asia/japan/kanto/yokohama_international1.jpg
Berlin 2006
http://www.wldcup.com/pictures/wld2006/stadium/berlin-in.jpg
Perth4life October 11th, 2007, 06:56 PM looks great, the soccer ball looks a bit corny though.. will this stadium be used for rugby games after such as tri-nations?
Mo Rush October 11th, 2007, 07:04 PM looks great, the soccer ball looks a bit corny though.. will this stadium be used for rugby games after such as tri-nations?
Thats the FIFA HQ completed earlier this year.
Inertia October 11th, 2007, 08:43 PM http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5716/stadionjohannesburgvw3.jpg
Zabonz October 12th, 2007, 12:30 AM very good 8/10
but
i am kinda bored of this oval shaped stadiums, after munich every second stadium has this shape
it looks misplaced as well, it looks like it is in middle oh nowhere
Mo Rush October 12th, 2007, 12:47 AM the stadium is based on a calabash not allianz arena.
Durbsboi October 12th, 2007, 10:40 AM Uh Allianz aint oval, its rectangular with curved sides.
http://i22.tinypic.com/2eeg600.jpg
this one is a proper Oval.
http://www.sa2010.gov.za/slideshows/soccercity/soccer_city.jpg
www.sercan.de October 12th, 2007, 12:00 PM greaaattt
what a shame that there are so few pics
IMO this is the "star" of the WC2010 stadias
Kuvvaci October 12th, 2007, 02:13 PM it is really wonderful. The best WC final stadium since Azteca of Mexico city. though other stadiums were wonderful too. But Azteca was so different and special. Now this one is coming up :okay:
railcity October 12th, 2007, 02:23 PM Thats the FIFA HQ completed earlier this year.
You mean Organising Committee HQ, I guess?
Great stadium!
www.sercan.de October 12th, 2007, 02:24 PM That is why i do not understand why there aren't so many pics, informations and threads about this one
Mo Rush October 12th, 2007, 02:54 PM You mean Organising Committee HQ, I guess?
Great stadium!
the FIFA HQ in South Africa for 2010.
Mo Rush October 12th, 2007, 02:56 PM That is why i do not understand why there aren't so many pics, informations and threads about this one
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Materials
Steel (tons) 7,000
Aluminium Cladding (sq mt) 41,064 2
Cement (tons) 42,000
Clay Bricks (tons) 22,000
Concrete Blocks interlock (sq mt) 90,000
Timber (sq mt) 150,000
Glass (sq mt) 3,000
Plastic Pipes (m) 5,000
Roof Membrane (sq mt) 40,000
Aggregate – Stone Mix (cu mt) 70,000
Ready-mix Concrete (cu mt) 100,000
Bitumen (tons) 2
Cranes
Tower cranes (3 ton) 10
Mobile cranes (35 ton) 3
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Mo Rush October 27th, 2007, 02:35 PM Cost: 1/10th of Wembley Stadium
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il fenomeno October 28th, 2007, 12:50 AM i like this stadium.
Frankfurter_Bockwurst October 28th, 2007, 01:17 AM i like it too
Mo Rush October 28th, 2007, 02:35 AM its funny though. all that steel around the facade and the roof only covers the top tier spectators.
Mo Rush November 10th, 2007, 05:42 PM Client City of Johannesburg
Project Location: Soweto
Main Contractor JV : Grinaker-LTA (75%) and Interbeton(25%)
Architect Boogertman Urban Edge and Partners
Concrete 51 500 m3
Slabs 65 000 m2
Rebar 5 410 tons
Formwork 174 000 m2
Reinforcing steel 6 000 tons
Slabs 65 000 m2
Structural Steel 7 100 tons
Building Contract Value R2,14 billion
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Ton-Tille November 10th, 2007, 10:02 PM looking good:okay:
Durbsboi November 12th, 2007, 11:11 AM wow, taking shape really fast!
www.sercan.de November 12th, 2007, 02:21 PM So they are also building a new 1st tier?!?
Will it be steaper and closer to the pitch?
Durbsboi November 13th, 2007, 10:38 AM I doubt it will be closer to the pitch, & I doubt it will be steeper, the gradient it had was quite adequate, so they will prob maintain it with a shorter length as previous.
www.sercan.de November 13th, 2007, 03:41 PM Why? The old one was ok as i remember
Juanl November 13th, 2007, 05:19 PM They need to shorten the length so that the second teir isn't to far from the pitch like Berlin. The seats also needed replacing anyways.
Sparks November 14th, 2007, 12:41 AM So there building the tier on top of the soil bank?
Mo Rush November 14th, 2007, 12:48 AM So there building the tier on top of the soil bank?
yes. that was the previous first tier. They must be remodelling it somehow if they felt the need to tear down the entire structure.
www.sercan.de November 14th, 2007, 12:21 PM But its cool that the new first tier will be ~ like the old
TEBC November 14th, 2007, 06:37 PM im so jealous!! Why Brazil 14 dont built new stadiums like you does?
Red85 November 14th, 2007, 06:51 PM its a rebuild of the fnb stadium?? or is it a total new one???
Juanl November 14th, 2007, 07:13 PM REBUILD. Basically just keepin the original upper teir and the hole in the ground
Mo Rush November 14th, 2007, 09:55 PM its a rebuild of the fnb stadium?? or is it a total new one???
essentially a new stadium using the foundation of the old stadium. At a price of under $300m for a 100,000 seater its a complete steal.
NavyBlue November 15th, 2007, 08:13 AM essentially a new stadium using the foundation of the old stadium.
Why is that? Does it improve the gradient, add more rows or is it just to modernize the lower tier etc?
At a price of under $300m for a 100,000 seater its a complete steal.
Has the capacity also changed from the quoted 94,700???
Loranga November 15th, 2007, 09:59 AM im so jealous!! Why Brazil 14 dont built new stadiums like you does?
That is a question many of us here have asked.
Mo Rush November 15th, 2007, 12:00 PM Why is that? Does it improve the gradient, add more rows or is it just to modernize the lower tier etc?
Has the capacity also changed from the quoted 94,700???
Unless they change the legroom space, previously the stadium had a capacity of 70,000, adding a second tier and a tier in between should surely add at least 30,000
NavyBlue November 16th, 2007, 10:50 AM Unless they change the legroom space, previously the stadium had a capacity of 70,000, adding a second tier and a tier in between should surely add at least 30,000
Sorry Mo, you've lost me...
...what will be the final seating capacity???
Juanl November 16th, 2007, 06:22 PM 94700
Juanl November 16th, 2007, 06:24 PM ninety four thousand seven hundred
NavyBlue November 18th, 2007, 03:14 AM 94700
ninety four thousand seven hundred
Cheers, thats what I thought until someone brought up 100,000 seats. :nuts:
Mo Rush November 18th, 2007, 02:37 PM Cheers, thats what I thought until someone brought up 100,000 seats. :nuts:
Well as I said previously the first tier alone seated 70,000, with an entire second tier and a tier inbetween that I do believe that the capacity should reach 100,000 unless the legroom is amazing.
www.sercan.de November 18th, 2007, 06:44 PM http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1595_1_1000%20Soccer%20City%20SA%201.jpg
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1595_2_1000%20Soccer%20City%20SA%202.jpg
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1595
Mo Rush November 18th, 2007, 07:15 PM so is that finally the final design??!!
Mo Rush November 18th, 2007, 07:18 PM Cost: 1/10th of Wembley Stadium
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I suppose this is the final design but has been finalized with the exact facade material etc.
Mo Rush November 18th, 2007, 07:19 PM http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1595_1_1000%20Soccer%20City%20SA%201.jpg
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http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1595
Boogertman Urban Edge & Partners design the new FIFA world cup 2010 soccer stadium in Johannesburg
The Soccer City corresponds to highest technical standards of modern football stadiums. Also the visual appearance of the Soccer City designed by the South African architects of Boogertman Urban Edge & Partner sets a landmark for the FIFA world cup 2010. For the realisation of the unconventional design the architects rely on European know-how. A football stadium like an “African Pot” that shines in typical African colours: The expertise of two Austrian companies makes this unconventional project possible: Rieder Smart Elements produces 30,000 square meters of fibreC elements forming the façade of the stadium. Valenta Metallbau develops more than 100,000 specially designed steel elements for the sub-construction. The outer skin of the arena spans 43,000 square meters in total. The concrete elements are produced in the Bavarian Kolbermoor in Germany. The new façade will be assembled to the sub-construction on site in South Africa. Therefore Rieder and Valenta are going to erect an own field fabric. Through its excellent eco-profile, the energy consumption of fibreC is significantly lower compared to alternative façade products: The production of fibreC has 40% less global warming potential than fibre cement panels or aluminium sheets. HPL (high pressure laminates) cladding panels even use five times more energy than fibreC. The realization of the entire building covering will be completed within a 12 month period. The Soccer City project currently employs 3.000 people and is therefore the world’s largest stadium construction site. The completion of the overall project is scheduled for January 2009.
www.sercan.de November 18th, 2007, 07:24 PM isn't it the same?
Mo Rush November 18th, 2007, 07:31 PM isn't it the same?
Yes. But the exact roof material, facade material and steel structure has been finalized. Should look great at night.
skaP187 November 18th, 2007, 08:52 PM Why is it that there are allways so few pics how a stadium will look from the inside... I have not seen one realy.
This goes for a lot of stadiumdesigns, they never realy show you the inside, which to me is the most important of all.
Mo Rush November 18th, 2007, 10:31 PM Why is it that there are allways so few pics how a stadium will look from the inside... I have not seen one realy.
This goes for a lot of stadiumdesigns, they never realy show you the inside, which to me is the most important of all.
True.
I think this is the best view we have of what it will look like from the inside.
http://www.boogertman.com/images/stories/featuredprojects/featuredprojects_10_l_02.jpg
matherto November 18th, 2007, 11:27 PM I take it that the pitch is far below ground level?
Mo Rush November 18th, 2007, 11:36 PM I take it that the pitch is far below ground level?
The entire first tier is. See the other construction images in this thread to see more.
skaP187 November 19th, 2007, 12:08 AM This is going to be one big MF!:cheers:
Durbsboi November 19th, 2007, 09:28 AM It sure is, Ive been to it before all of this started & it was BIG then, just imagine 2010!
Pule November 19th, 2007, 08:08 PM Update: 2007-11-17
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Juanl November 19th, 2007, 10:30 PM CLEARLY NO STRIKE ACTION THERE!
Durbsboi November 20th, 2007, 09:56 AM Nope, & good news, Durban is back on track!
Mo Rush December 1st, 2007, 12:47 AM The Johannesburg Development Agency invites tenders for the construction of a pedestrian promenage the general scope entails construction of a bridge structure over Landbou Road and the railway lines and the Northern and Southern Abutments, including ramps form the structural bridge, the bridge will link the Soccer City Stadium with the Johannesburg Expo Centre. This tender advert seeks to invite tenderers with a Civil and Structural Contracting Background. Only tenderers with CIDB 8CE or higher will be considered.
Mo Rush December 1st, 2007, 02:49 PM http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1060009.jpg
skaP187 December 1st, 2007, 09:04 PM And half of it is under ground?!!!
Mo Rush December 2nd, 2007, 02:01 AM its always been that way
skaP187 December 2nd, 2007, 06:04 PM massive man!!! (jamaincan styley)
Mo Rush December 2nd, 2007, 11:02 PM November 26
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Wezza December 3rd, 2007, 10:12 AM Starting to take shape now! Looking good.
Schmeek December 3rd, 2007, 05:25 PM If the first tier is underground, how do they get the spectators down there? Are there tunnels leading down or do they enter at street level with the upper tier spectators? The latter method would surely be quite congested...
And Mo, you say the lower bowl used to hold 70,000, I thought the lower tier was being shortened somewhat to bring the upper closer to the pitch? In which case it wouldn't be a case of 70k + 30k.
Durbsboi December 4th, 2007, 11:44 AM The lower bowl was much longer than it is made now, plus the existing grand stand was torn down & rebuilt as a bowl to flow around the stadium, the old capacity was 70 000 so yes it is an additional 30 000 seats, but some of the old rows from the bowl have been removed.
Spectators will go down the stairs from the top od the lower bowl, I dont think there will be exit tunnels half way, it will be much like the lower seating at Stade de France.
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Mo Rush December 29th, 2007, 05:12 AM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2117/2143966019_b2a24fcd82_o.jpg
Mo Rush January 12th, 2008, 03:36 PM 12 January 2008
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Pule January 12th, 2008, 04:52 PM I agree with you Mo, I never thought that thsi stadium will reach this point so early. The contractors are really doing a great job.
I just can't wait for the event.
www.sercan.de January 12th, 2008, 05:02 PM So, they changed again the design of the facade?
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Mo Rush January 12th, 2008, 05:59 PM So, they changed again the design of the facade?
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Puleza/P1060785.jpg
No, thats an image used by one of the sponsors since the start of construction. Its an advertisement.
Tarzan January 12th, 2008, 07:20 PM I'm in love with this stadium ;), it looks so greak. Very nice design!
k% January 14th, 2008, 08:15 PM Nice, nice, keep up the good work guys.
Cheers from Europe, it will be great event :cheers:
lpioe January 14th, 2008, 09:42 PM No high-quality renders of the interior available?
Mo Rush January 28th, 2008, 02:48 PM Work at Soccer City goes on
Written by Ndaba Dlamini
Monday, 28 January 2008
While the rest of the city suffers from regular load shedding, construction work at Soccer City has not been affected, and the stadium is still expected to be completed by the Fifa deadline.
ESKOM'S load shedding has not affected construction work at Soccer City, the venue for the opening ceremony and opening and final matches of the 2010 Fifa World Cup™.
"Soccer City has not been affected by any blackouts during working hours but it may certainly have affected businesses supplying us with construction materials," says Stan Aarts, the technical manager of Grinaker-LTA, the consortium tasked with constructing the stadium.
As a backup measure, the group is looking at "investing" in generators if things do get out of hand, Aarts says.
"We cannot rule out the possibility of the whole construction project suffering a blackout." At the moment the exact number of generators that would be needed to serve the construction site has not been determined.
Work at Soccer City began in early 2007 and is expected to be finished by May 2009, five months ahead of the Fifa deadline. However, if the power cuts continue they will affect the actual construction on site, Aarts says.
Work at Soccer City began in early 2007 and is expected to be finished by May 2009
Work at Soccer City began in early 2007 and is expected to be finished by May 2009
He is also concerned that businesses supplying Soccer City with construction materials may be gravely affected if the power cuts continue. This would be felt down the line.
Soccer City is being rebuilt at a cost of R1,5-billion. The contract comprises partially demolishing and completely revamping the stadium as well as providing all associated facilities.
The new Soccer City stadium will have 94 700 seats, which will be covered by a roof, leaving the soccer pitch itself open.
Construction work at stadiums in Durban and Cape Town is also progressing well, with the load shedding having minor effects. Generators have been installed on site at Durban's Moses Mabhida Stadium as a power backup.
Jim856796 February 3rd, 2008, 01:25 AM ^^ You said "Work at Soccer City began in early 2007 and is expected to be finished in May 2009" in that story three times.
Mo Rush February 3rd, 2008, 03:09 AM ^^ You said "Work at Soccer City began in early 2007 and is expected to be finished in May 2009" in that story three times.
was copied from an article. I think the sentence also appeared beneath an image, therefore it was repeated.
Mo Rush February 7th, 2008, 05:06 PM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/2239522261_4df247d611_b.jpg
Mo Rush March 2nd, 2008, 12:14 AM No high-quality renders of the interior available?
Hope these images give you an idea of the scale of the stadium.
A large first tier and smallish second tier, followed by series of suites along with a few rows of seating, followed by a large third tier. Now imagine this venue packed with 95,000 spectators.
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www.sercan.de March 2nd, 2008, 12:55 AM I thought it will have 2 tiers
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Mo Rush March 2nd, 2008, 12:57 AM that middle tier is separate from the first tier..either way..its one huge mother!
renco May 12th, 2008, 11:51 AM any updates?
www.sercan.de May 27th, 2008, 01:58 PM :cheers:
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Rausa May 28th, 2008, 12:37 AM http://www.byggvarlden.se/multimedia/archive/00026/VM_Soccercity_700_26688a.jpg
Source (http://www.byggvarlden.se/byggprojekt/article354357.ece)
staff May 28th, 2008, 03:03 AM Looks like the roof won't cover all of the seats, no?
bing222 May 28th, 2008, 08:27 AM Is there a webcam for the construction of the stadium,
Thanks
Elensar77 May 28th, 2008, 09:44 AM Looks like the roof won't cover all of the seats, no?
Yes ı think so...
Mo Rush May 28th, 2008, 01:23 PM roof wont cover all seats.
www.sercan.de May 28th, 2008, 01:27 PM who cares
still the best WC 2010 stadium
www.sercan.de May 31st, 2008, 05:20 PM 188 VIP suites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
:cheers:
C.M. May 31st, 2008, 05:38 PM http://www.byggvarlden.se/multimedia/archive/00026/VM_Soccercity_700_26688a.jpg
Source (http://www.byggvarlden.se/byggprojekt/article354357.ece)
I always thought that this stadium would have 4 tiers. But looking closer it seems that it will have 5 tiers.
The top tier and 2 little ones below for the VIP suites. Then there is a 4th tier what looks like a drop to the 5th. WOW!
KomSakkie July 25th, 2008, 05:48 PM From: http://www.joburg.org.za
2010 stadiums 'well on schedule
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Written by Emily Visser
Thursday, 24 July 2008
Checking on progress: FIFA's secretary-general visits Soccer City early July 2008
The City's executive director in charge of 2010, Sibongile Mazibuko, sees visible progress every time she visits one of Joburg's two key stadiums.
JOBURG'S two key stadiums for the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ - Soccer City and Ellis Park - are well on schedule and will be completed within predicted timeframes.
Ellis Park will be ready well in advance of the FIFA Confederations Cup South Africa 2009 taking place next June. It is expected the stadium will be completed in November 2008. Soccer City will be finished in May 2009.
"We are very happy with the progress on Ellis Park and on Soccer City. It's really exciting to see how fast things are moving. Every time I visit the stadiums progress is visible," confirmed Sibongile Mazibuko, the City's executive director for 2010. Mazibuko is responsible for co-ordinating and implementing the City's 2010 programme.
Challenges
Construction has not been without its hitches. At the Ellis Park site, work has to be co-ordinated as the stadium is in continued use. Areas have to be made safe for public use and some of the work has to be done during window periods when no sporting activities are taking place at the stadium.
By comparison, there have been some major complications at Soccer City. These include additional work to the original structure which could not have been foreseen during the design process. Design requirements in the form of piles and columns for the roof had to be added. FIFA also added extra requirements to the design and construction later in the project.
And finally, the challenge of transporting the roof structure, which was manufactured in Italy, to South Africa had to be overcome. But today, the roof is almost halfway to completion.
In the past year work at both stadiums has also had to contend with rising construction costs, with steel prices alone increasing by 70 percent.
Soccer City
However, Soccer City's progress was recently applauded when Jerome Valcke, the FIFA secretary-general, paid Johannesburg a quick visit. He commented that work on the stadium was "impressive". The project is on programme schedule and 44 percent complete.
The stadium was completely demolished late in 2006, and the rebuilding started in 2007. The builder's rubble from the original construction has been used in the rebuilding.
Various aspects were at different stages, the 2010 office confirmed. The stadium's support structures are completed and the roof is 45 percent finished. Structural and pre-cast concrete work is also progressing well.
The stadium has increased its seating by 34 percent and will have place for 94 700 people through three tiers of seating, private boxes and VIP suites.
The media will be accommodated in eight television presentation studios. There will also be a soccer museum and a 300-seater restaurant.
"I must also say that our construction partners on the project, the workers and everyone associated with the stadiums' upgrades are very mindful of the enormous obligation we have to have these completed on time and to FIFA standards. They are committed to helping us achieve this and so I have no doubt that our excellent progress will continue for the remainder of the project period," Mazibuko added.
The stadium is expected to be completed by May 2009.
Ellis Park
While Soccer City is a completely new construction, Ellis Park stadium - soon to be renamed Coca-Cola Park - is getting a major revamp for the World Cup.
Building started in the latter part of 2007 and is now nearing completion, with final fittings in progress. These include tiling and improvements to the foyer areas as well as new change rooms and toilet blocks.
Seating is also receiving some attention to cater for disabled people. Alterations to seating are completed except for balustrades, which still need to be erected. The buttressing of the parkade and northern area was completed early in January this year.
Most of the pre-cast concrete work to the stadium is completed. The roof structure is being erected and is 35 percent complete. Workers have started sheeting the roof structure. All the lighting within the stadium was also replaced in June.
In June and July 2009, Ellis Park will be the most important venue for the Confederations Cup, with the opening ceremony taking place there as well as a number of games. The stadium will be completed and ready for this event well before time.
And in 2010, the stadium is earmarked to host five first-round matches, a second round match and one of the quarter-finals for the World Cup.
Ellis Park will seat 62 000 football fans, increasing its capacity by almost 9 percent from the previous 57 000.
KomSakkie July 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM Originally posted by:Mo Rush
FIFA Secretary General impressed by iconic Soccer City Stadium
(LOC) Wednesday 9 July 2008
FIFA Secretary General Jérôme Valcke was very impressed with his first visit to the iconic Soccer City Stadium in Johannesburg today. The giant 94 700-seater stadium will be the historic tournament's showpiece that will host the opening match and final of the 2010 FIFA World Cup™.
"On the shirts of the workers here in the stadium it said ‘I am proud to be building Soccer City Stadium'. And when you are here you share the same feeling the workers have and the same thing they have written on their shirts. You just want to see the first game being played at the stadium", said Jérôme Valcke, who personally got a first hand view of the significant pace of the construction at Soccer City over the last few months.
The FIFA Secretary General was particularly heartened by the commitment of the 2 400 construction workers on site, who are working flat out to ensure the stadium is completed as scheduled by December 2009: "Each time I come here I see the amazing evolution of the stadium. Yesterday I saw the first part of the roof going up and today the second part of the roof was already going up as well. Hosting the FIFA World Cup in South Africa in 2010 will be a unique moment and that is why we must make it happen."
Dr Danny Jordaan, Chief Executive Officer of the 2010 FIFA World Cup Organising Committee South Africa, who accompanied the FIFA Secretary General on the stadium visit, shared Valcke's sentiments: "Soccer City will be the heart of the 2010 FIFA World Cup. This is the cathedral of South African football. It's South Africa's Wembley. Our Maracana."
Mr Valcke was in South Africa for a meeting of the Board of Directors of the 2010 Organising Committee. During his four-day stay he also paid his first visit to the Loftus Versfeld Stadium in Tshwane, which will play host to the FIFA Confederations Cup 2009 and the 2010 FIFA World Cup.
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KomSakkie July 25th, 2008, 05:57 PM Originally posted by: Durbsboi
This was one morning when 702's(Radio) John Robbie broadcasted live from Soccer City on the topic of the 2010 WC.
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berkshire royal July 25th, 2008, 08:56 PM Stadium work looks well advanced how long until completion and/or a testing event. Is the stadium going to be used for the Confederation Cup?
TEBC July 25th, 2008, 11:16 PM Stadium work looks well advanced how long until completion and/or a testing event. Is the stadium going to be used for the Confederation Cup?
no, they will use ellis park in Joburg
Four cities will serve as the venues of the 2009 FIFA Confederations Cup.
Johannesburg (Ellis Park Stadium - after extension) c. 65,000
Pretoria (Loftus Versfeld Stadium - after extension) 50,000
Bloemfontein (Free State Stadium - after extension) 48,000
Rustenburg (Royal Bafokeng Stadium - after minor renovations) 42,000
Originally, Port Elizabeth's Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium was also chosen as a venue. However, on 8 July 2008, Port Elizabeth withdrew as a host city because its stadium was deemed unlikely to meet the deadline for completion, which is 30 March 2009.
Scba July 26th, 2008, 12:04 AM Reminds me a lot of an NFL stadium.
GNU July 26th, 2008, 12:04 AM looking good so far.
EPA001 July 26th, 2008, 01:28 AM Yes, but there is still a lot of work to do! It does not look bigger than Wembley though, but it will have a slightly higher maximum capacity. But it will look great when finished. Probably the best stadium to have the final of the WC since the Azteca Stadium in Mexico City hosted that final in 1986!
It is also the first stadium, since Mexico 1986, where the WC final will be held without an athletics track. I hope that becomes a tradition so that we will not have WC football matches in athletic stadiums anymore. Of course solutions like the Stade de France, where the WC-1998 final was played, are OK, but they still are not the same as a stadium which is built for football only! (Or Rugby, Twickenham comes to mind here!).
xever_7 July 26th, 2008, 01:45 AM One of best stadiums for the World Cup 2010 I like the Durban one too.
theespecialone July 26th, 2008, 10:50 AM Reminds me a lot of an NFL stadium.
except its way better
theespecialone July 26th, 2008, 10:53 AM in my opinion its the best stadium in the world cup, and one of the best in the world.
Will the springboks use this ground as well?
www.sercan.de July 26th, 2008, 01:27 PM Mo,
do you have plans (cross section) of this one?
Looks like the suites are 2 storey?!?1
Quintana July 26th, 2008, 01:37 PM Yes, but there is still a lot of work to do! It does not look bigger than Wembley though, but it will have a slightly higher maximum capacity. But it will look great when finished. Probably the best stadium to have the final of the WC since the Azteca Stadium in Mexico City hosted that final in 1986!
It is also the first stadium, since Mexico 1986, where the WC final will be held without an athletics track. I hope that becomes a tradition so that we will not have WC football matches in athletic stadiums anymore. Of course solutions like the Stade de France, where the WC-1998 final was played, are OK, but they still are not the same as a stadium which is built for football only! (Or Rugby, Twickenham comes to mind here!).
Rose Bowl did not have an athletics track either (with the stands being fairly close to the pitch as well)
EPA001 July 26th, 2008, 02:53 PM ^^ You are correct. I forgot the Rose Bowl! As a football stadium I am not particularly fond of it, but indeed it has no athletics track, I stand corrected!
KomSakkie July 27th, 2008, 02:25 AM Some more construction pics posted by Mo Rush.....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2627837154_67ebbcff4c_o.jpg
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KomSakkie July 27th, 2008, 02:26 AM You can constantly follow the construction of this great stadium via the web cam shown below......or preferably go to http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=21130275&postcount=1 and follow all the major stadiums being constructed for the 2010 FIFA WC.....
http://ota.mtn.co.za/webcam/0137_SoccerCityStadium.jpg
Updated 4 times a day.....I think....maybe 3???
TEBC July 27th, 2008, 02:39 AM how people can say that the stadiums constructions are delayed?!?! look very good for me.. with the stands already
KomSakkie July 27th, 2008, 12:14 PM Construction is trailing by 3 weeks about......however, they are all still well ahead of the FIFA deadlines by as much as 14 weeks for some.
www.sercan.de July 27th, 2008, 12:59 PM My baby gets orange seats? :(
why?
trmather July 27th, 2008, 03:34 PM Have they rebuilt it from the ground up? Or just added to the old structure?
EPA001 July 27th, 2008, 04:47 PM My baby gets orange seats? :(
why?
That is especially done for the Dutch National Football team when they play the final in this stadium!!! :D :D :D :D :D
KomSakkie July 27th, 2008, 06:44 PM Mo,
do you have plans (cross section) of this one?
Looks like the suites are 2 storey?!?1
I'll try and find some but I don't know if Mo has any.
This is the design off the the architects web page....you can clearly see the VIP and private suites but a more comprehensive drawing would do much better.
http://www.boogertman.com/images/stories/featuredprojects/featuredprojects_10_l_02.jpg
http://www.boogertman.com/images/stories/featuredprojects/featuredprojects_10_l_04.jpg
And for comparison.....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2627837154_67ebbcff4c_o.jpg
KomSakkie July 27th, 2008, 06:55 PM ^^
I Don't know how much this helps......
http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/loc/greenworldcup006_smaller_45452.jpg
Its a little old and I think it is the other side of the stadium bowl.......looks to be 3-levels there.....I'm confusing myself
www.sercan.de July 27th, 2008, 08:54 PM looks like 2 level to me
Benn July 27th, 2008, 09:38 PM Thats two levels of large suites, portions of the mid level just aren't done yet, and they may sit slightly above the second tier. You don't normally see suites with 4 rows of seating, the only other place I can think of like that is the Superdome, where the second level suites hold a good 40 people each. It will be a high VIP capacity even for`188 boxes.
Mo Rush July 28th, 2008, 01:42 AM Videos
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Benjuk July 28th, 2008, 05:58 AM how people can say that the stadiums constructions are delayed?!?! look very good for me.. with the stands already
The 'worst' delay, as I understand it, is that one stadium won't be ready in time for the Confederations Cup (12 MONTHS prior to the finals)... If that's the worst, then I can't see any problem.
bing222 July 28th, 2008, 09:37 AM I cant Belive that they have already put the seat in the stadium
Durbsboi July 28th, 2008, 10:35 AM My baby gets orange seats? :(
why?
Orange & black seats, & Im also perplexed on the colour's
Have they rebuilt it from the ground up? Or just added to the old structure?
Well, the stadium was torn apart quite abit, the entire lower bowl was removed & replaced. part of the exisiting stand was used, but I can safely that 85% of the this stadium is newly built.
JohanSA July 28th, 2008, 01:08 PM The seats colour code acsually fits in very well with stadium design . Go check those cladding renders again.
Red85 July 28th, 2008, 06:28 PM And its great for the dutch:P
if we qualify and play in Johannesburg of course
Durbsboi July 29th, 2008, 11:10 AM lol
Jim856796 July 29th, 2008, 11:31 AM Have they rebuilt it from the ground up? Or just added to the old structure?
The renovation looks like they rebuilt it from the ground up than added it to the old structure.
GNU July 29th, 2008, 02:01 PM Some more construction pics posted by Mo Rush.....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2627836840_c0c5736cea_o.jpg
Quite an early stage to put seats in and the colour isnt my kind of thing to be honest.
JohanSA July 29th, 2008, 02:39 PM :bash: Go check the cladding renders to understand the overall efect!
The architects arent stupid........................
Benn July 29th, 2008, 08:16 PM That doesn't mean he has to like it
JohanSA July 29th, 2008, 10:25 PM Yeah but that you dont like a certain colour is childish. Its not about the colour but the way that colour enhances the overall design.....
Durbsboi July 30th, 2008, 11:38 AM I wonder if they keeping the moat around the pitch, Mo? any idea?
theespecialone July 31st, 2008, 06:25 AM a moat? hope not..
Mo Rush July 31st, 2008, 07:49 AM I wonder if they keeping the moat around the pitch, Mo? any idea?
yip. but instead of a burial ground height its reduced to normal standards.
bing222 July 31st, 2008, 10:15 AM I think that they will take the moat out I think.
Mo Rush July 31st, 2008, 10:50 AM I think that they will take the moat out I think.
as below. The moat will be retained but the height reduced to normal saftey standards. Green Point stadium will also have a moat about 2m high.
theespecialone August 1st, 2008, 06:44 AM why do they need a moat? other stadiums don't have moats and they're perfectly safe
Mo Rush August 1st, 2008, 09:42 AM moats used instead of fences. its a big deal in a world cup match if spectators find their way onto the FOP.
JohanSA August 1st, 2008, 11:29 AM As long as the moat is not ugly Im all for better views.
Durbsboi August 1st, 2008, 12:02 PM Moat is exellent alwasy wanted them to fill it up with water & have crocodiles or sharks in them :crazy:
its much better that having fences IMO
www.sercan.de August 1st, 2008, 12:08 PM Why fences or moat or wall?
As i know Allianz do not had fences etc.
annman August 1st, 2008, 12:12 PM This is South Africa, soccer hooligans will be thrown to the crocs in the moat, easy crowd control! :lol: :lol: :lol: JK!
Durbsboi August 4th, 2008, 11:53 AM Why fences or moat or wall?
As i know Allianz do not had fences etc.
Allianz did have fencing, behind the goals
www.sercan.de August 4th, 2008, 12:44 PM But not during the WC
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nesjo/170334217/sizes/o/
Durbsboi August 5th, 2008, 11:06 AM uh, then when was that picture taken?
brummad August 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM thats a net to stop the balls breaking peoples noses lol
www.sercan.de August 5th, 2008, 01:26 PM uh, then when was that picture taken?
18.06.2006
Brazil vs. Australia
Durbsboi August 6th, 2008, 11:33 AM thats a net to stop the balls breaking peoples noses lol
lol
JoHaN 15 August 6th, 2008, 09:58 PM SA is die BESTE!!
:dance:
Durbsboi August 8th, 2008, 11:10 AM Soccer City’s roofing retrofit a major engineering challenge
screen shots from the video
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The erection of the roof for Soccer City, the iconic stadium outside Soweto, where the opening and final matches of the 2010 FIFA World Cup will be played, is proceeding according to schedule, says project director for the Grinaker-LTA/Interbeton Soccer City Joint Venture Mike Moody.
The roof structure of the stadium is separate from the seating bowl and is installed on 12 large shafts, the smallest of which is about 8 m deep and carries the triangular spatial ring trusses, which run all the way around the perimeter of the stadium upper tier.
“The first structural steel for the Soccer City stadium’s roof structure has been raised. The first lift was to mount one of twelve 54-t, steel A-frame structures, which will support the roof. “These structures form part of the 7 100 t of structural steel being manufactured mainly by Italian company Cimolai, with Aveng Africa’s DSE subsidiary also manufacturing designated components,” says Moody.
He adds that the first steel arrived on site in June and the first piece was erected in the middle of that month. The leading edge of the cantilever roof is a polycarbonate section, which provides additional coverage of the front leading edge of the seating bowl.
“On the facade, there will be 120 sections of 20 panels each erected a day and, in the meantime, we have started with the fabrication of the panels. By the end of September, people will be seeing the different components and the stadium will start taking shape.”
He added that the project’s budget had ballooned to R2,6-bil- lion owing to inflation and exchange rate movements.
“What is keeping me awake at night is the fact that we are building a stadium that is bigger than and at a cost of one-third of Wembley, and must be done in half the time. Other challenges include power shortage and labour disputes arising from the high cost of living – and we have a lot of subcontractors.”
Moody says that, to alleviate the skills shortage, the company entered into a contract with the Department of Labour at the start of the project, whereby they jointly trained 750 previously unemployed people from Soweto in various aspects of concrete work.
Durbsboi August 15th, 2008, 03:01 PM courtesy of Pule
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JohanSA August 17th, 2008, 11:03 AM Those pics are sooooo awesome!
KomSakkie August 21st, 2008, 03:51 PM Soccer City celebrates no injuries
Written by Ndaba Dlamini
Tuesday, 19 August 2008
August 2008, and work on the stadium is past the halfway mark
One million hours have passed in the building of the landmark World Cup Soccer City stadium - and there have been no injuries.
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CONSTRUCTION workers at Soccer City, proud of being involved in building one of the most impressive stadiums in Africa, may have a chance to watch 2010 FIFA World Cup™ matches at the venue.
This was revealed by Danny Jordaan, the chief executive of the 2010 FIFA World Cup Organising Committee South Africa (OC), at Soccer City on Friday, August 15 during an event organised by the main contractors, Grinaker-LTA, to celebrate one million injury-free hours on site.
Jordaan said he would raise the proposition at the FIFA board meeting in recognition of the workers' sterling work on site.
"This is the best stadium ever in our country and we recognise your contribution. Some people have been saying that the stadium won't be ready by 2010 but the work that has so far been done proves otherwise," he said to cheers from the 2 400 workers.
Soccer City Stadium, formerly FNB Stadium, will host the opening ceremony and the opening and final matches of the World Cup. It is undergoing major upgrades and will seat 94 700 people when complete; the completion date is July 2009.
Deadline
Mike Moody, the Soccer City project director, said the stadium was about 56 percent complete, with just under a year to go to completion deadline.
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A celebration for the 2 400 workers at Soccer City
"The roof is going up and 20 000 seats have already been installed," he said.
Addressing the jubilant workers, who were entertained by maskandi group, Khipha Kesh, the City's 2010 executive director, Sibongile Mazibuko, commended them for the excellent progress being made in the stadium's construction.
"You are the 'sweat of the nation', the team that will bring the World Cup to us. I am proud to say that in terms of construction and safety, Soccer City is leading the other nine stadiums that are going to host the tournament," she said.
Mazibuko urged the workers to continue to be vigilant on site and called for teamwork. "Each man and woman here should be more careful as construction continues and draws to a close," she said.
The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) secretary general, France Baleni, also commended the workers for the safety record, attributing this to the good relations between the highly organised labour and management.
Sadly, the celebrations were dampened by news that a worker at Peter Mokaba Stadium in Polokwane, one of the other venues being built for the World Cup, had died on site.
"We would like to send our most sincere condolences to the family of the worker who tragically died at the Peter Mokaba Stadium site today," Jordaan said.
"It is the first death recorded during the 2010 FIFA World Cup process and we learned of this incident with great sadness. We know the safety of all workers has always been paramount for all the construction companies contracted to build the 10 World Cup stadiums. The incident in Polokwane today highlights, however, the dangers associated with constructing these world-class stadia under very difficult conditions."
Ambassadors
World Cup ambassadors Doctor Khumalo, Mark Fish, and Phil Masinga attended the celebrations, along with former Bafana Bafana player, Shaun Bartlett. Each one gave an account of their most memorable Soccer City moments in their playing careers.
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The crowd gave a warm welcome to football icons Doc Khumalo and Shaun Bartlett
Masinga remembered the historic goal he scored in a 1998 World Cup qualifier against Democratic Republic of Congo. Khumalo, on the other hand, jokingly recalled all the matches he played for Kaizer Chiefs against Orlando Pirates.
"I will cherish all the moments when we hammered Pirates at this stadium. But I also remember the matches that we played against Brazil and Nigeria," he said.
To calls of "Fish! Fish!" from the workers, Fish took to the stand, lifting his arms and crossing them in a trademark Orlando Pirates gesture.
"My best memories are when you guys came up in numbers to the FNB Stadium to support us when we played for the national team. If you can just keep up that spirit and support the current crop of national team players we will definitely go somewhere," he said.
Bartlett said his best memory was his goal against Orlando Pirates in the last derby played at the stadium.
One of the workers, Kleinbooi Sikalakalane, a qualified plumber, said he was looking forward to watching the World Cup at the stadium. "I hope FIFA will accept Jordaan's proposition that we watch the World Cup matches. It would be nice to be here when the stadium is complete and watch Bafana Bafana play," he said.
Sikalakalane said the stadium was within walking distance of Diepkloof, Soweto. "I will even walk to the stadium if I get a ticket."
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Danny Jordaan, the chief executive of the 2010 FIFA World Cup Organising Committee South Africa and the City's 2010 executive director, Sibongile Mazibuko
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Football legend Mark Fish arrives at the stadium
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The team that will bring the World Cup to Joburg
Some good construction photos.....
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And the BEST aerial (kinda) we have seen for a while....
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t-bang! August 21st, 2008, 07:17 PM Great progress, awesome pics!
KomSakkie August 29th, 2008, 09:14 PM More construction updates....
Thanks to Mo Rush South African forum.
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MTF August 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM Nice updates! its gonna be massive stadium :cheers:
EPA001 August 30th, 2008, 01:58 PM Very nice updates of this very impressive venue indeed. It will be a superb stadium for the WC-2010!
MTF August 30th, 2008, 10:05 PM How many executive boxes it will have? As far as i can see they are situated in 2 tiers.
www.sercan.de August 31st, 2008, 12:30 PM 188 was the last number we heard
Durbsboi September 1st, 2008, 11:37 AM I think its still about the same number
bing222 September 1st, 2008, 12:34 PM Massive stadium
KomSakkie September 2nd, 2008, 12:01 AM The best we have had for a while......much thanks to Mo Rush
Originally posted in the SA Forum
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Mo Rush September 2nd, 2008, 12:51 AM How many executive boxes it will have? As far as i can see they are situated in 2 tiers.
three seating tiers
new management offices, change rooms, four tunnels and basement
230 private boxes
184 suites
two VIP suites
one VVIP suite
one super suite
media section with 2 451 seats
eight TV presentation studios
new roof and cladding all round
32 turnstiles
71 concession kiosks
soccer museum
an "African Pot" museum
300 seat restaurant
MTF September 2nd, 2008, 07:16 AM Cheers Mo Rush.:cheers:
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Whats that on the top?
bing222 September 2nd, 2008, 08:12 AM one Super Suite nice
Durbsboi September 2nd, 2008, 10:25 AM wtf does a super suite have? ppl to wipe ur ass?
www.sercan.de September 2nd, 2008, 04:02 PM are those open boxes like at Stadiums australia?
KomSakkie September 2nd, 2008, 06:08 PM Cheers Mo Rush.:cheers:
Whats that on the top?
It is a old mine dump from Jozi's mining hey day. Its one of those defining features of Johannesburg with many dotted around the southern city limits and around Soweto
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Wezza September 16th, 2008, 01:13 PM Awesome! Starting to take shape now. :)
KomSakkie September 27th, 2008, 04:20 PM Blatter tours stadium...
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