Tumbling Dice
March 3rd, 2008, 02:56 PM
10.5 metres short of the KVLY mast - get the champagne on ice.
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Tumbling Dice March 3rd, 2008, 02:56 PM 10.5 metres short of the KVLY mast - get the champagne on ice. brainiac March 3rd, 2008, 03:18 PM Like how many girls are on this forum...!? This is a totally male dominated! The construction industry is still the only totally male dominated thing left, why coz it’s a man’s job!, Do you think the Burj Dubai could have been built to where it is at now by a gang of women! eerr no! Not being sexiest or anything, but us guys get the job done :D It has nothing to do with getting the job done. It's about building giant phalluses. eyrie March 3rd, 2008, 04:42 PM ^^the Burj Dubai is after all a mighty erection Hollie Maea March 3rd, 2008, 05:15 PM I'm a big tennis fan and came across this article about a lucky guy this morning. I guess when you are the second best tennis player in the world you get some benefits. http://www.barclaysdubaitennischampionships.com/3/news/2008/nadal_burjdubai.asp germantower March 3rd, 2008, 05:19 PM Its a pity that this pic is so small http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/4/images/08_nadal_burj.jpg but you can have a feeling from looking at it how it must be standing infront of this beast! EDIT: the picture below my post is so mind blowing you look down to supertalls and they appear like toys in the desert! OM goodness! Hollie Maea March 3rd, 2008, 05:21 PM Here's another picture :cheers: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5900/nadalry9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Library User March 3rd, 2008, 05:21 PM Gentlemen, Can you tell us what areas the 5 interior renders represent ? These show very high spaces with many stairs. Also, where are the 8 escalators to be located ? We have not seen any mention of this yet. Thank you ZZ-II March 3rd, 2008, 05:33 PM so the spire gonna be 200m, isnt it? when i remember right the spire itself will be 50m tall AltinD March 3rd, 2008, 05:52 PM I'm a big tennis fan and came across this article about a lucky guy this morning. I guess when you are the second best tennis player in the world you get some benefits. http://www.barclaysdubaitennischampionships.com/3/news/2008/nadal_burjdubai.asp I think Federer is a sissy when it come at heights. He comes from the Alps and bought his apartment in Dubai on the 13th floor (Le Reve tower in Dubai Marina). :lol: Hollie Maea March 3rd, 2008, 06:12 PM ^^ That may be, but he DID play tennis on the BAA helipad, which you wouldn't see me doing :cheers: Ember-To-Ashes March 3rd, 2008, 06:18 PM http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/2/photogallery/default.asp More Pictures =) Janne_H March 3rd, 2008, 06:50 PM http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/2/photogallery/default.asp More Pictures =) Awesome! It's very hard to realize those buildings below are around 300m. :nuts: http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/4/photogallery/2008/nadalburj/3.jpg http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/4/photogallery/2008/nadalburj/4.jpg potipoti March 3rd, 2008, 10:51 PM WoW, Rafa Nadal was there!!! McGrupp34 March 3rd, 2008, 10:57 PM Are they working on finishing the interior in the lower levels yet? What about planning to open the building in stages similar to Trump Chicago? Fury March 3rd, 2008, 11:08 PM Hi all. Picasa : Marius - 08 02 29 http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/47535/2004914401019540919_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004914401019540919) http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/48030/2004930793685187647_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004930793685187647) Erica - 08 03 01 http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/47363/2004925864386682059_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004925864386682059) http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/44658/2004981979178732977_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004981979178732977) :cheers: CULWULLA March 3rd, 2008, 11:09 PM after lev162, the towers structure takes on the name of "spire' ,mainly becuase the 40 levels or so are not inhabitable., yes there are still "levels' but they cant be occuppied and are just spire access for maintenance ect. they have stairwells right up to the top. the actual "spire" which is known as the "pinnacle" with the Burj dubai project, is approx 140m in length but starts way down at tier20b or 662m.The pinnacle will be jacked up from this level and telescoped until its reaches full height of 819m.some 50m above the last enclosed section of the "spire" which is tier27/768m level.Alot of people suggest that tier27 is the "roof" of burj Dubai, mainly because you can actually stand in the small terrace area which is a bit bigger then a bath size.It has a parapet so it will be safe.above this is the visable section of "pinnacle' which will rise the last 50m to full height! this 'pinnacle" will also have internal ladder access all the way to aircraft beacon platform at the 818m level. i hope that sorts a bit out. ha the sock March 3rd, 2008, 11:48 PM thanx for the explaination culwulla , those pics with the tennis player where awsome ,he should feel honoured to be up there, lucky bugger. 44p March 4th, 2008, 12:03 AM that sucks^^^^ dettol March 4th, 2008, 03:59 AM Are they working on finishing the interior in the lower levels yet? What about planning to open the building in stages similar to Trump Chicago? I believe building laws in Dubai do not allow an unfinished site to be open to the public. The project must be finished before any people are allowed into the site. gonzalo12345 March 4th, 2008, 04:10 AM ^^ for those that say that the Burj Dubai haven't jet touched the clouds, the pictures say that the Burj Dubai is above the clouds :lol: McGrupp34 March 4th, 2008, 08:09 AM thanks for the answer. robo_boss March 4th, 2008, 08:29 AM They've missed a few spots while glazing. Chimaera March 4th, 2008, 10:20 AM A Belgian company involved in the construction of the BD, Basix, invited the Belgian national television into the building: http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redactie/mediatheek/1.262883 aussie crane March 4th, 2008, 10:58 AM Like how many girls are on this forum...!? This is a totally male dominated! The construction industry is still the only totally male dominated thing left, why coz it’s a man’s job!, Do you think the Burj Dubai could have been built to where it is at now by a gang of women! eerr no! Not being sexiest or anything, but us guys get the job done :D Mate you r a dead set wanker if u believe thats true,i am an australian tower crane driver and ive seen women who can drive cranes better than most men.They have a better attention 2 detail than most, r harder working and usually dont come to work hung over after a night on the grog.:cheers: Buyckske Ruben March 4th, 2008, 11:05 AM The Belgium Television had the permission to go on top with some of the Belgiën engineers (of the firm BESIX) also from Flandres. here the link: I must warn you! You have to scroll way to the end of the video! the clip begin on minute 29! You can watch only when the video is fully loadid! http://www.canvas.be/extra/html/page_view_video.html?f=http://media.vrtnieuws.net/2008/03/IN1EZ5G20TERZAKE033234945.mxf_urlFLVLong.flv&keepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=320&width=520 You can see it also on full screen (symbol beside volume on the right)! A little patience will be necessary! Dubai_Boy March 4th, 2008, 11:24 AM The Belgium Television had the permission to go on top with some of the Belgiën engineers (of the firm BESIX) also from Flandres. here the link: I must warn you! You have to scroll way to the end of the video! the clip begin on minute 29! You can watch only when the video is fully loadid! http://www.canvas.be/extra/html/page_view_video.html?f=http://media.vrtnieuws.net/2008/03/IN1EZ5G20TERZAKE033234945.mxf_urlFLVLong.flv&keepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=320&width=520 You can see it also on full screen (symbol beside volume on the right)! A little patience will be necessary! This is OUTRAGEOUS !!! 29 MINUTES ? :bash: Dubai announces 300 meter tall towers and foundation works starts in less time :naughty: Imre March 4th, 2008, 11:29 AM another towers in Dubai Marina , just for interesting:) Dear Sir/Madam I’m glad to keep you informed that we are pre-launching a project in Dubai Marina on the 4th week of March which consists of the following: · G+90 Residential Building · G+90 Residential Building · G+100 Commercial Building The project is in a very attractive location in the Dubai Marina development and it is directly facing the lake. (Please find the attached location map). If you would like to be contacted on the pre launch please reply to my email verifying if you will be looking for Commercial or residential. I look forward to hearing from you Best Regards Dubai_Boy March 4th, 2008, 11:35 AM bah i was getting excited there for a second , just midrises then =( lol Old Town Resident March 4th, 2008, 11:53 AM 5th Floor steel going up fast today (pics from this afternoon) Also looks like the jacking guide for the spire is now taking shape in the centre of the two horizontal bracings. Is that a set back at the 5th going by the curved bracing in place?????????????? http://i32.tinypic.com/2mwxxs7.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/2vvqb5v.jpg LeMoN-SK March 4th, 2008, 11:56 AM Very fast! :okay: Looks like they are really speeding up, getting used to the construction procedures. :banana: Old Town Resident March 4th, 2008, 12:31 PM BEHIND SCHEDULE: Alabbar said construction of the Burj Dubai had been delayed by four months. Emaar Properties' Burj Dubai is four months behind schedule and may now not be finished by the end of this year as originally planned, it has been revealed. Emaar Chairman Mohamed Alabbar said on Tuesday the world's tallest structure would not be finished on time, without giving further details as to the reason for the delay. "We are about four months late," Alabbar told reporters. Emaar said last month construction on the tower had been stepped up to meet an "accelerated schedule", without giving further details. An Emaar official said in July the Burj Dubai would open sometime before Christmas this year, which means the tower may not now be finished until spring 2009. Work on the Burj Dubai was delayed in November when around 40,000 labourers employed by Arabtec, one of the construction companies working on the project, went on strike for a week over pay and conditions. Arabtec Executive Director Tom Berry said at the time the strikes could cause the company miss completion dates for some of its key projects in Dubai. The Burj Dubai currently stands at just over 600 metres, over 90 metres higher than the world's tallest building, Taiwan's Taipei 101, and over 40 metres higher than the world's tallest free-standing structure, Toronto's CN Tower. The only structure now left for the Burj to overtake is the KVLY/KTHI television mast in Blanchard, US, which measures 628.8 metres. The Burj Dubai will not be officially recognised as the world's tallest structure until it is completed. Emaar has remained tight lipped over the final height, but it is rumoured to be between 700 and 1,000 metres. Local media reports last year said the final height would be 818 metres, citing architects drawings posted on the internet. velbujd March 4th, 2008, 12:36 PM The Burj Dubai will not be officially recognised as the world's tallest structure until it is completed. :ohno: CULWULLA March 4th, 2008, 12:42 PM great close up otr. so now height of burj dubai is 617m. next section will reach 624m or roof of inhabitable part of tower.or where the lifts for the tower stop. (add 15.75m for height above slab). Old Town Resident March 4th, 2008, 12:46 PM great close up otr. so now height of burj dubai is 617m. next section will reach 624m or roof of inhabitable part of tower.or where the lifts for the tower stop. (add 15.75m for height above slab). CUl, going by your plan, it is about this stage that they start to make provisions for vthe spire entry. Is that the spire guides at the centre of the horizontals, and if thats the case it wount be a setback as we would expect the other half of the guide to be formed by other steel? Old Town Resident March 4th, 2008, 12:47 PM :ohno: When did I say that?:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::bash: AltinD March 4th, 2008, 12:51 PM ^^ Not you, but the article you posted. ;) That's why when I'm bashing something written in a article posted by a member, I remove the member's name from the quote. syedaouf March 4th, 2008, 12:57 PM March 3rd http://i30.tinypic.com/11vqges.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/23mtyrq.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/2uzs7pe.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/241o93m.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/rkaqu0.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/bf04xs.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/2qbgd3r.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/5vyer5.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/xc3fbs.jpg :cheers: CULWULLA March 4th, 2008, 01:04 PM otr, the pinnacle doesnt start until 676m up or tier 20b or another 60m of steel frame http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1450/burjtopdetaillev160ob3.jpg Kalahari Sands March 4th, 2008, 01:35 PM nice pics! :okay: Spandex March 4th, 2008, 02:51 PM Why does the spire go so deep down into the structure? sure it is for strenght and fixing it properly but that seems an awful lot. How is the new cladding part going OTR? that one above (the 4th?) mecchanical floor, have they allready installed many? AltinD March 4th, 2008, 03:12 PM ^^ The top of the spire is tall "an awful lot" ... also you can check the pictures posted a few posts above for the curtain wall installation progress. ;) Old Town Resident March 4th, 2008, 03:30 PM Spandex, Pictures from today. Still only one window above the 4th mechanical, but plenty going on elsewhere (at the base and behind the crane on level 99) Also entrances taking shape at the base cladding. http://i28.tinypic.com/6tissm.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/29m2kxt.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/whdter.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/9bjf68.jpg Old Town Resident March 4th, 2008, 03:51 PM CUL, although some differences in the plan below there are a number of references to the spire installation methodology in this diagram. Thoughts Cul do you think we should see signs of the spire in the near future if access starts to become restricted by steel. ? http://i30.tinypic.com/27y7qjp.jpg ZZ-II March 4th, 2008, 04:28 PM the progress with cladding on the base is amazing, can't wait to see the whole base cladded :) Dan Hochhaus March 4th, 2008, 04:54 PM One advantage to be a sports hero is that you might get an invitation to visit the Burj Dubai (without big effort to get a permission)! I just watched the tennis match Nadal-Kohlschreiber, and after the victory, Nadal described the great experience of ascending in the outside elevator to the 156th floor and having the great vista over Dubai. What a lucky dude... :gaah:;) Btw. will it also be possible to play tennis somewhere high up the BD (excluding the base), like Agassi vs. Federer on the Burj Al Arab helipad (http://www.burj-al-arab.com/tennis/)? I guess there'll be not enough space above each setback for a tennis court. :ohno: GOL2007 March 4th, 2008, 05:34 PM On the last pic above you see excavators removing parts of the bottom of the lake because they increased the size of the water features a lot... fountains, etc. just FYI ;) ZZ-II March 4th, 2008, 07:30 PM found an awesome shot on flickr, can't remember it has been posted already: http://i32.tinypic.com/10nxshy.jpg Essa March 4th, 2008, 08:43 PM Rafael Nadal: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3792/sinttulo1gg4.jpg stefan040780 March 4th, 2008, 10:08 PM great close up otr. so now height of burj dubai is 617m. next section will reach 624m or roof of inhabitable part of tower.or where the lifts for the tower stop. (add 15.75m for height above slab). Thx for the new infos, Culwulla. :-) So by using the slab messure BD is now the highest building in the world! :banana: Btw, where did you get the reliable sources for the 15,75m-distance? Nongkhai_tong March 4th, 2008, 10:33 PM ^^ good information thanks yoy James R. Hawkwood March 4th, 2008, 10:40 PM The number off image contributers is now peaking!!! Imre, Syedaouf, OTR, Fury and the occasional person finding stuff like ZZ-II!!!!!!! Thank you all i am realy pleased seeing everybody contributing things to this amazing building! Yes i am quite off a lurker around here but DAMN!!! The renders have been right all allong and sometimes it looks even far better then that!!!! So here an official cheers from me :cheers2: Sander- March 4th, 2008, 10:49 PM Gotta say those are some great pics, OTR and syedauof! Spandex March 4th, 2008, 11:22 PM Thanks alot guys, and OTR,,, awesome pics, exsacly what I was hoping for This is why I attend this forum several times a day:banana: There has been a mention of the cladding of the base, citing it not looking all that great. I disagree, I think that having the horizontal pattern more dense gives it a feel of sturdiness and strenght, visually it gives us the impression that this thing is going stand there for ages CrazyDave March 5th, 2008, 01:27 AM Those new photo's are fantastic. Pretty soon we will see the Damper get put in place. Shortest Skyscraper March 5th, 2008, 01:56 AM Would living on the top floors affect people who have breathing problems... or is the height too minimal for respiratory issues? FTL Beach Bum March 5th, 2008, 02:21 AM Would living on the top floors affect people who have breathing problems... or is the height too minimal for respiratory issues? Living at 2000 feet elevation above sea level? It's no different than living in, say, Madrid, which is at about 2000 feet...and doesn't seem to bother 3.2 million people. ;) Hollie Maea March 5th, 2008, 02:37 AM Even if the base of this building was in DENVER, the people on the top would have no problems at all breathing. helghast March 5th, 2008, 02:43 AM Burj Dubai, the world's tallest building, will influence and inspire future generations of architects and engineers, said Mr Mohamed Ali Alabbar, Chairman of Emaar Properties. Speaking on the second day of the 8th World Congress of the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH), Alabbar said that Emaar's landmark tower epitomizes the can-do spirit that has led to Dubai's emergence as a thriving global city. Participating in a panel discussion on the 'Vision for the World's Tallest,' Alabbar insisted that Burj Dubai is not just about building the tallest tower in the world but an expression of the vision that His Highness Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, UAE Vice President & Prime Minister and Ruler of Dubai, has for Dubai and its rightful place in the global scene. Mr Mohamed Ali Alabbar, Chairman of Emaar Properties said: 'When Burj Dubai was first planned, it was to be a 90-storey structure, but Sheikh Mohammed asked us, 'Why stop there?'' Alabbar said. 'As Dubai and its economy expand, as our achievements grow, we must constantly ask ourselves: 'Why stop there?' Sheikh Mohammed has inspired us to dare, to dream and to achieve what would once have been considered impossible. With Dubai playing a leading role, Alabbar said, the Middle East has the potential to reclaim its age-old role as a global source of scientific and engineering innovation, a fact underscored by the vastly sophisticated building rising from Dubai's desert sands. In every aspect of Burj Dubai, there is a new set of learning. No one has ever tried to construct a building like this. This learning will be vital for the next generation of enterprising individuals.' And while Alabbar said he had little doubt that someone would eventually build a tower higher than Burj Dubai, he insisted that such an outcome would not bother him. 'This is not a race or competition,' he said. 'What's important is that Dubai has provided a platform for humanity to push the boundaries of what can be achieved.' The panel discussion was chaired by Mark Amirault, Managing Director, Emaar International Global Design & Development Studio. Adrian Smith, the designer of Burj Dubai, spoke on 'Designing the Burj Dubai' and William Baker of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill - architects of Burj Dubai - outlined the challenges of 'Engineering the World's Tallest.' The 2008 World Congress of CTBUH, themed, 'Tall and Green: Typology for a Sustainable Urban Future,' is intended to explore the role of tall buildings in future sustainable urban development. Emaar Properties is the Platinum Sponsor of the event, which concludes on March 5 at Grand Hyatt Dubai. Upon completion Burj Dubai will be the tallest structure in the world in all four of the criteria listed by CTBUH. The council measures height to the structural top, the highest occupied floor, to the top of the roof, and to the tip of the spire, pinnacle, antenna, mast or flag pole. http://www.ameinfo.com/148824.html helghast March 5th, 2008, 02:51 AM Spandex, Pictures from today. Still only one window above the 4th mechanical, but plenty going on elsewhere (at the base and behind the crane on level 99) not only that, the window frame is different from the rest TowerJunkie March 5th, 2008, 03:07 AM Would living on the top floors affect people who have breathing problems... or is the height too minimal for respiratory issues? You might feel your ears pop on the way up but thats the worst that can happen at 2000ft. Altitude sickness starts as low as 8,000ft, though most people can acclimatize to even higher. There are major cities in Peru and Bolivia that are over 10,000ft and some towns in the Himalayas are in the 15,000s! Prolonged exposure above 16,000ft and thats where the real lung problems start. Spandex March 5th, 2008, 03:16 AM not only that, the window frame is different from the rest oh yeah, I just noticed that, why? cant see no structural need for that, so it has to have something to do with the overall look/aesthetics of the burj, still, strange one popquiz for all the wiz: How many people will occupy the tower on, lets say, a normal Wednesday with all businesses up and in full swing? more then 10.000? Spandex March 5th, 2008, 03:29 AM sorry me again, off topic this time, but this is the best place for answeres from the most informed/active/contributing forum-members just wanted to ask; What the F and where the F is this place? http://gizmodo.com/363834/dubai-artificial-island-city-mixes-mythic-past-and-future-with-a-death-star-3d-neighborhood-for-kicks close to marina? or a whole new project? looks cool, but is there any change of it happening? WonderlandPark March 5th, 2008, 05:23 AM sorry me again, off topic this time, but this is the best place for answeres from the most informed/active/contributing forum-members just wanted to ask; What the F and where the F is this place? http://gizmodo.com/363834/dubai-artificial-island-city-mixes-mythic-past-and-future-with-a-death-star-3d-neighborhood-for-kicks close to marina? or a whole new project? looks cool, but is there any change of it happening? Nakheel is behind it, and it will probably happen. Rem Koolhaas is the architect. The tower isn't all that tall, but the density of this island will rival Manhattan, so they say. Even the NY Times picked up on this project. dettol March 5th, 2008, 05:37 AM sorry me again, off topic this time, but this is the best place for answeres from the most informed/active/contributing forum-members just wanted to ask; What the F and where the F is this place? http://gizmodo.com/363834/dubai-artificial-island-city-mixes-mythic-past-and-future-with-a-death-star-3d-neighborhood-for-kicks close to marina? or a whole new project? looks cool, but is there any change of it happening? Nakheel is behind it, and it will probably happen. Rem Koolhaas is the architect. The tower isn't all that tall, but the density of this island will rival Manhattan, so they say. Even the NY Times picked up on this project. Here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=376858) is the thread for that project, now back on topic :) Philipp5 March 5th, 2008, 07:37 AM 000000000 Dubai_Boy March 5th, 2008, 07:47 AM too silly edward77x March 5th, 2008, 08:23 AM Just give it 5 years and Dubai will make NYC look like a tiny little town in Texas. LOL Dubai_Boy March 5th, 2008, 08:26 AM Edward please dont go there >< we really really REALLY dont need this sort of talk in here , you will cause a wave of people coming in now and bashing Dubai for all its worth. Doomlord_uk March 5th, 2008, 08:50 AM found an awesome shot on flickr, can't remember it has been posted already: http://i32.tinypic.com/10nxshy.jpg Awesome photo and an awesome sight... :nuts: THIS is a reason to buy an apartment half a mile up in the sky... you get to live (sometimes) in a whole other world! It should be cool too to see airplanes shooting out of the cloudbase all the time from the airport! :cheers: ^sneakers^ March 5th, 2008, 09:49 AM wow i get dizzy everytime i see pics of burj dubai. :nuts: PurePaki March 5th, 2008, 10:14 AM found an awesome shot on flickr, can't remember it has been posted already: http://i32.tinypic.com/10nxshy.jpg is this a sand storm:uh: Dubai_Boy March 5th, 2008, 10:23 AM No. FM 2258 March 5th, 2008, 10:25 AM is this a sand storm:uh: It's fog. coa190 March 5th, 2008, 11:07 AM The tower already has an incredible slimness, and it will be amazing to see it with additional 200 meters! CULWULLA March 5th, 2008, 12:15 PM guys, try not to draw silly comparison or muck with photoshop. people who open this thread wants to see something worthwhile not spam. yes phillip5, you may have photshopped burj dubai extra 200m but its a thin spire not more building, so it was really false impression. no disrespect. cheers everybody have a better one! Old Town Resident March 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM Burj Dubai offices to top $4,000 per sq ft Wednesday, March 5 , 2008 (SUPPLIED) Emaar Chairman Mohamed Ali Alabbar speaking on Tuesday at the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH) conference, said the sale of office space at Burj Dubai has received phenomenal response, with the going rate at $4,000 (Dh14,000) per square foot. He added that the Armani Residences, also in the world’s tallest tower, are selling for $3,500 per sq ft. Realty experts that Emirates Business spoke to said those rates matched those of property prices in Central London and Moscow’s city centre. Although 20 to 25 per cent of sales in Burj Dubai have been through “traders” (middlemen and real estate agencies), Alabbar added: “People just do not want to let go of their purchase.” Burj Dubai will inspire architects of the future Emaar Properties would rather opt for a “nominal delay” in total quality execution of the Burj Dubai interiors than compromise on any aspect of quality, the company has said. Earlier on Tuesday, Reuters reported that Burj Dubai, the world’s tallest tower, was about four months behind schedule. “We are about four months late,” Emaar Chairman Mohamed Ali Alabbar told Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH) conference without giving a reason for the expected delay, Reuters said. “Burj Dubai is setting new standards in architecture and construction engineering and Emaar is thus committed to adhering to the highest quality standards at all stages of Burj Dubai’s completion, including the interiors. The company would rather opt for a nominal delay in total quality execution of the Burj Dubai interiors than compromise on any aspect of quality,” a spokesperson said. However, the company statement did not deny the report of delay. “Quality will be the first priority in the execution of Burj Dubai and several design considerations for the interiors were rejected at various stages of the project development,” Alabbar told the conference. “Burj Dubai will influence and inspire future generations of architects and engineers, he said. Although Alabbar has little doubt that “someone” will eventually build a tower higher than Burj Dubai, he said that such an outcome would not bother him. “This is not a race or competition. What’s important is that Dubai has provided a platform for humanity to push the boundaries of what can be achieved.” Burj Dubai will be the tallest structure in the world in all four of the criteria listed by CTBUH on completion. The council measures height to the structural top, the highest occupied floor, to the top of the roof, and to the tip of the spire, pinnacle, antenna, mast or flag pole. AltinD March 5th, 2008, 01:15 PM Jan (the forum owner) is partecipating in the conference as well. A visit on the tower was planned also, but how high they will be allowed to go, was not known. A friend of mine working for a material supplier is also partecipating so shall text him to ask if they climbed in the tower already. im_from_zw038 March 5th, 2008, 02:48 PM This one really makes you feel like you're there, so tall! http://i28.tinypic.com/bf04xs.jpg leechtat March 5th, 2008, 03:08 PM goodness... gorgeous project and very, very, very tall indeed.. from the photo of @fury, the burj dubai seems to be piercing the clouds... amazing. Astralis March 5th, 2008, 04:26 PM This giant is going on pretty well :okay:. Can't wait to finish it :banana:! ZZ-II March 5th, 2008, 05:15 PM Today from Flickr: http://i31.tinypic.com/332ngxw.jpg Old Town Resident March 5th, 2008, 06:43 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/123ps3s.jpg Old Town Resident March 5th, 2008, 06:58 PM http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/44726/2000764186951372092_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000764186951372092) http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/44841/2000760470261834202_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000760470261834202) http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/44456/2000789542798643811_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000789542798643811) LeMoN-SK March 5th, 2008, 07:31 PM ^^Good shots. 5th steel is going well. :cheer: Imre March 5th, 2008, 07:50 PM Four-month Burj delay due to interior design by Dylan Bowman on Wednesday, 05 March 2008 http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8193/burjdubainightthumbhv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) INTERIOR DESIGN: Emaar said the delay to construction of the Burj Dubai was down to ensuring quality of the interior. The four-month delay to construction of Emaar Properties' Burj Dubai is related to the interior design of the tower, the developer said late on Tuesday. Emaar said in a statement it would rather see a "nominal" delay to the project than compromise the quality of building's interior. "The company would rather opt for a nominal delay in total quality execution of the Burj Dubai interiors than compromise on any aspect of quality," the developer said. "...several design considerations for the interiors were rejected at various stages of the project development." The statement follows remarks by Emaar Chairman Mohamed Alabbar earlier on Tuesday that the Burj Dubai was four months behind schedule and might now not be finished by the end of this year as originally planned. "We are about four months late," Alabbar said at a conference in Dubai, without going into further detail. Emaar said last month construction on the tower had been stepped up to meet an "accelerated schedule", without giving further details. An Emaar official said in July the Burj Dubai would open sometime before Christmas this year, which means the tower may not now be finished until spring 2009. The Burj Dubai currently stands at just over 600 metres, over 90 metres higher than the world's tallest building, Taiwan's Taipei 101, and over 40 metres higher than the world's tallest free-standing structure, Toronto's CN Tower. The only structure now left for the Burj to overtake is the KVLY/KTHI television mast in Blanchard, US, which measures 628.8 metres. The Burj Dubai will not be officially recognised as the world's tallest structure until it is completed. Emaar has remained tight lipped over the final height, but it is rumoured to be between 700 and 1,000 metres. Local media reports last year said the final height would be 818 metres, citing architects drawings posted on the internet. The Burj Dubai is to be the centrepiece of a city within a city, Downtown Burj Dubai. The $20 billion development as a whole will include 30,000 homes, nine hotels, 6.2 acres of parkland, 19 residential towers, the Dubai Mall, and a 30-acre manmade lake. The development will cost around $20 billion. (arabianbusiness.com) FM 2258 March 5th, 2008, 10:27 PM ^^ That's not bad at all. I'd rather have a product late and built to perfection than have a product early and have it fall apart or in need of a lot of repair. Ember-To-Ashes March 6th, 2008, 12:34 AM Quick edit i made.. made it abit more slender... + taller =) http://i29.tinypic.com/1zeeatk.jpg SevenUp March 6th, 2008, 12:38 AM Awesome! It's very hard to realize those buildings below are around 300m. :nuts: http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/4/photogallery/2008/nadalburj/3.jpg http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/4/photogallery/2008/nadalburj/4.jpg Why they don´t have made a TENNIS MATCH :lol: like on the helipad place on the Burj Al Arab http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/AdamskiTheKiller/Burj-Al-Arab_23.jpg http://www.smoothharold.com/uploaded_images/burj-al-arab-tennis-helipad-roger-federer-731752.jpg Ember-To-Ashes March 6th, 2008, 02:17 AM Lol. sorry then! ive been doing these edits for like 1 year now. i didnt know it had suddenly become illegal. =) quiksilver-cg March 6th, 2008, 03:21 AM How much cost of this project to Dubai??? Shezan March 6th, 2008, 03:41 AM ^^ some coins! PwnedByASkyscraper March 6th, 2008, 04:18 AM How much cost of this project to Dubai??? Nice answer Shezan. To be more specific, "The total budget for the Burj Dubai project is about $4.1 billion USD and for the entire new 'Downtown Dubai', $20 billion USD." fordgtman1992 March 6th, 2008, 04:59 AM Wow, this building is amazing! It is amazing how tall this thing is! What is the true hight and floor count now? Is it 161 yet? Xusein March 6th, 2008, 05:22 AM :eek2: jlh630 March 6th, 2008, 05:59 AM Wow, this building is amazing! It is amazing how tall this thing is! What is the true hight and floor count now? Is it 161 yet? They are finishing the fifth steel floor which is level 160. Rodrigo Guidotti March 6th, 2008, 07:45 AM Impressionante!!! Old Town Resident March 6th, 2008, 10:17 AM There is a style change of cladding at the base where two varying designs have been used. Only one more cladding installed above 4th mechanical. http://i31.tinypic.com/2vtwcgg.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/1zmkvur.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/35laxqf.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/nmdzeo.jpg Old Town Resident March 6th, 2008, 10:25 AM Cladding started on wing, but also looks to differ from other cladding http://i32.tinypic.com/33kqjpd.jpg Harkeb March 6th, 2008, 10:55 AM Not sure if anyone has asked before, but will this tower have an observation deck for tourists? AS the tallest building, people would flock to it and offcourse want to go up there. firoz bharmal March 6th, 2008, 11:01 AM 1. THE HEIGHT OF BURJ DUBAI IS NOT MEASURED FROM GROUND FLOOR ONCE I READ FROM THE BLOGS....IF THEY MEASURED FROM THE BOTTOM SIDE THEN ITS HEIGHT IS GREATER THEN 840M THEN 819M ....... 2. THE SPIER IS HOLLOW INSIDE OR ITS SOLID ....WHAT COULD BE THE WEIGHT OF SPIRE 3. IS THERE ANY WEIGHT BALANCER LIKE IMPLEMENTED IN TIPEI 101 4. I WILL APPECIATE THE COMPARISION OF THE LATEST APPROVED TOWERS Skymyhusband March 6th, 2008, 11:06 AM 1. Two measures, one single building :D 2. Hollow... :) 3. Yes, to be implemented on floor ~160 4. Which towers? Note: Try to read this thread throughout to get answers... AltinD March 6th, 2008, 11:18 AM ^^ 3. Is actually NO. Burj Dubai does not have a dumper like Taipei 101, it might get water tankss at the just completed steel section floors, but even that is not 100% confirmed, I mean they have made provision in the design but when the building will be taller then now and the enginers might observe they are not needed, they will not be installed. Harkeb: There is a public observation outdoor deck on the 124th floor, some 420 meters above ground. RON-E March 6th, 2008, 11:27 AM working that facade right up that tower! looking good! dettol March 6th, 2008, 11:31 AM Cladding started on wing, but also looks to differ from other cladding... Hey OTR, Check out this (http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8461/burjdubai7sf6.jpg) link for a high res render wihch shows that type of cladding was planned for that floor. Thx to Bikes site www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com for easy access to this and pretty much every other render available ;) BlackSmith! March 6th, 2008, 11:49 AM I think that the podium cladding is all the same. Its just the light which gives the false impresion that the cladding is different. Ember-To-Ashes March 6th, 2008, 12:22 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/35laxqf.jpg Cladding looks much better on the bottom left as opposed to the bottom middle part. Dont you think? i think the middle part looks abit cheap. Skymyhusband March 6th, 2008, 12:34 PM ^^ 3. Is actually NO. Burj Dubai does not have a dumper like Taipei 101, it might get water tankss at the just completed steel section floors, but even that is not 100% confirmed, I mean they have made provision in the design but when the building will be taller then now and the enginers might observe they are not needed, they will not be installed. Harkeb: There is a public observation outdoor deck on the 124th floor, some 420 meters above ground. Thanks for explanation :cheers: BlackSmith! March 6th, 2008, 12:41 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/35laxqf.jpg Cladding looks much better on the bottom left as opposed to the bottom middle part. Dont you think? i think the middle part looks abit cheap. I am sure that it will look 100 times better when fully cladded:) dettol March 6th, 2008, 12:56 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/35laxqf.jpg Cladding looks much better on the bottom left as opposed to the bottom middle part. Dont you think? i think the middle part looks abit cheap. Its the same cladding, different angle ;) Old Town Resident March 6th, 2008, 01:01 PM ^^ 3. Is actually NO. Burj Dubai does not have a dumper like Taipei 101, it might get water tankss at the just completed steel section floors, but even that is not 100% confirmed, I mean they have made provision in the design but when the building will be taller then now and the enginers might observe they are not needed, they will not be installed. Harkeb: There is a public observation outdoor deck on the 124th floor, some 420 meters above ground. KEY DESIGN FEATURES OF BD http://i28.tinypic.com/2exlzpt.jpg Old Town Resident March 6th, 2008, 01:13 PM I think that the podium cladding is all the same. Its just the light which gives the false impresion that the cladding is different. Blacksmith: There are significant variations to each cladding section, where the left panel has a more prounounced aluminium vertical fin, in addition to each window segment be elongated. Also the panels that will form the left wing is supported at a greater distance from the concrete and looks to have more tint. Skymyhusband March 6th, 2008, 01:14 PM Scale 1:100 ??? :D jlh630 March 6th, 2008, 05:23 PM 3. Is actually NO. Burj Dubai does not have a dumper like Taipei 101, it might get water tankss at the just completed steel section floors, but even that is not 100% confirmed, I mean they have made provision in the design but when the building will be taller then now and the enginers might observe they are not needed, they will not be installed. This is a little bit annoying to me. A while back I made a comment that I thought the design of the tower was stable enough to where a damper would not be needed. I was promptly corrected by CULWULLA and Fury, who told me there would be a damper on L160 (you can see in CULWULLA's diagram), and Fury claimed he had the plans to prove it. I am now very confused and would really appreciate some clarification on this matter. Who do I believe? The two guys who live in Dubai? Or the two guys with the plans of the tower? idkblk March 6th, 2008, 06:28 PM Annoying??? Why is that such an important issue for you? Well... i'd like to know it too yes... but honestly i don't care whether they need one or not!? Can not understand why somebody would be annoyed about something like that... AltinD March 6th, 2008, 06:51 PM This is a little bit annoying to me. A while back I made a comment that I thought the design of the tower was stable enough to where a damper would not be needed. I was promptly corrected by CULWULLA and Fury, who told me there would be a damper on L160 (you can see in CULWULLA's diagram), and Fury claimed he had the plans to prove it. I am now very confused and would really appreciate some clarification on this matter. Who do I believe? The two guys who live in Dubai? Or the two guys with the plans of the tower? 1. There is no mechanical dumper 2. There are provision on the design for Tuned Sloshing Dumper. Two big water tanks on the level 160 and one small on the level 160 Mezzanine 3. HOWEVER, in the design documents itself it says: "Potential Tuned Sloshing Dumper". What does "potential" means? ;) FM 2258 March 6th, 2008, 08:17 PM ^^ Potential?, that's interesting. I wonder what criteria would determine whether or not a damper would need to be put in. I thought when they designed skyscrapers today they could simulate any environmental impact on the tower and build accordingly. AltinD March 6th, 2008, 08:25 PM ^^ Nothing has been build so high before, so maybe they are measuring constantly lateral movements of the actual building under different wind loads and compare the data collected with the results of the wind tunnel tests on the scale model of the tower. If the build structure would be performing better or the same as the tests on the model, there might be no need for the T.S. Dumpers. (My speculation) jlh630 March 6th, 2008, 08:44 PM I am only annoyed because I feel like I have different people telling me different things. I just really want to understand how this thing works. This is why I'm so confused: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2315124132_0e1e5b09fd_o.jpg AltinD March 6th, 2008, 08:49 PM ^^ You should have known by now that things are kept confidential and we can only speculate based on what we see, hear or discover. FM 2258 March 6th, 2008, 09:04 PM ^^ Nothing has been build so high before, so maybe they are measuring constantly lateral movements of the actual building under different wind loads and compare the data collected with the results of the wind tunnel tests on the scale model of the tower. If the build structure would be performing better or the same as the tests on the model, there might be no need for the T.S. Dumpers. (My speculation) I think that's a good speculation. We might think things will work the same on a computer (or paper, but less likely) as they will in real life so you never really know 100% until the structure is actually built. Sky Tower March 6th, 2008, 09:18 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/35laxqf.jpg Cladding looks much better on the bottom left as opposed to the bottom middle part. Dont you think? i think the middle part looks abit cheap. Its the same cladding, different angle ;) Yes, it's the same cladding. The key difference being....the one on the left has its white protective film removed...and the other has it's white coating still on. They are peeling it off in sections. This is a little bit annoying to me. A while back I made a comment that I thought the design of the tower was stable enough to where a damper would not be needed. I was promptly corrected by CULWULLA and Fury, who told me there would be a damper on L160 (you can see in CULWULLA's diagram), and Fury claimed he had the plans to prove it. I am now very confused and would really appreciate some clarification on this matter. Who do I believe? The two guys who live in Dubai? Or the two guys with the plans of the tower?There is conflicting descriptions from old and new sources. Remember that the building went from 705m to 819m and both designs are still being quoted. The latest design has "provision" for a Tuned Mass or Tunes Sloshing damper...but no mechanical damper like Taipei 101 as the area is not seismically active. Alejandrohl3 March 6th, 2008, 10:08 PM Based on that diagram.. the mass damper construction should be comming up soon shouldn't it? idkblk March 6th, 2008, 11:20 PM ^^ Nothing has been build so high before, so maybe they are measuring constantly lateral movements of the actual building under different wind loads and compare the data collected with the results of the wind tunnel tests on the scale model of the tower. If the build structure would be performing better or the same as the tests on the model, there might be no need for the T.S. Dumpers. (My speculation) I think the reaction of the building on wind must be considerably different when the cladding is complete. At the moment, especially in the upper parts the wind can just blow through the floors. You can see on the helicopter pictures that you can look "through" the floors, there are no massive walls that stop the wind. Once cladding is done, the building must resist to the full force of the wind, so it should swing alot more then. AcesHigh March 7th, 2008, 12:46 AM Not sure if anyone has asked before, but will this tower have an observation deck for tourists? AS the tallest building, people would flock to it and offcourse want to go up there. considering that this is like the 10th thread about the Burj Dubai, and this one already has 230 pages, you can be sure that was asked before. helghast March 7th, 2008, 01:05 AM does anybody know why the window frame is different above the 4th mech floor http://i28.tinypic.com/6tissm.jpg CrazyDave March 7th, 2008, 01:25 AM For anyone that hasn't seen the samsung video of Burj Dubai: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BH19J8ZF4Bk Sky Tower March 7th, 2008, 02:51 AM does anybody know why the window frame is different above the 4th mech floor http://i28.tinypic.com/6tissm.jpg^^ Apart from being 0.8m taller than the more common 3.2m high levels....nothing! However, I am surprised that nobody has yet picked up the fact that L154-L156 are taller than shown on any plan.....which is where the heights now mismatch all diagrams shown on this forum, including the latest ones that I supplied. The revised spire height changes were approved on November 29th 2006. On June 27th 2007 further design changes altered L154-L156 heights and many of the steel spire and pinnacle sections raising the overall height by an additional 135m. A total of 3 height increases since November 2006 as per PMI number's 366, 378 & 517, authorized by KJ Kim of Samsung Corporation, on behalf of Greg Sang on 27th June 2007. Section A of the steel spire section will now take 358 days to complete, an additional 68 days over the 818m version, expected completion of spire section A on 8th March 2009. Section B of the steel spire section will now take 313 days to complete, an additional 87 days over the 818m version, expected completion of spire section B on 8th November 2009. :cheers: quiksilver-cg March 7th, 2008, 03:29 AM Nice answer Shezan. To be more specific, "The total budget for the Burj Dubai project is about $4.1 billion USD and for the entire new 'Downtown Dubai', $20 billion USD." ufffff that is most expensive!!! Spandex March 7th, 2008, 04:03 AM sky, are you for real with this???????? oooh man I hope so, I am assuming you have some delicate info that we the others don´t, what do the other forumgods say to this?? exiting times gentilmen:banana: Sky Tower March 7th, 2008, 04:14 AM ^^ Yes, Spandex I am. I did post all the original documents on my website about 7 months ago. I have so much info on it that some of it I'm still reading now. I posted so much info as I was retrieving it directly from the mainframe in real time, hardly anyone really read it....apart from Fury, who was clever enough to back everything up locally. For anyone that hasn't seen the samsung video of Burj Dubai: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BH19J8ZF4BkJust to point out that this is for the 705m version. The spire erection methodology now requires two cranes to traverse the tower and raise the pinnacle, not one. Crane 2 (M2-380D) will rise to Tier 20 at 712.5m Crane 1 (M1-440D) will rise to 822m with a working boom reach up to 856m. :) helghast March 7th, 2008, 04:24 AM tip of the crane at 856m :nuts:, do u have updated plans that mention the tip of the cranes height ? the 819m plans that is dettol March 7th, 2008, 04:50 AM ... The spire erection methodology now requires two cranes to traverse the tower and raise the pinnacle, not one. Crane 2 (M2-380D) will rise to Tier 20 at 712.5m Crane 1 (M1-440D) will rise to 822m with a working boom reach up to 856m. :) Which is one of the possibilities I considered due to the second crane still being present atop the beast. ;) Im still sceptical about it though and will wait for the steel structure to change before I rip all my clothes off and run down the street screaming Eureka :nuts: Sky Tower March 7th, 2008, 04:57 AM Nice answer Shezan. To be more specific, "The total budget for the Burj Dubai project is about $4.1 billion USD and for the entire new 'Downtown Dubai', $20 billion USD." That's also not quite accurate. The total budget for the Burj Dubai complex is over $12 billion USD. The tower itself was proposed at $3.8 billion, which turned into $4.1 billion USD upon re-design. With unfactored time extensions, rebar and aluminum cost increases and the cladding already being $850 million instead of the proposed $266 million it was budgeted for...the tower alone is expected to cost over $5 billion USD. Sky Tower March 7th, 2008, 05:07 AM tip of the crane at 856m :nuts:, do u have updated plans that mention the tip of the cranes height ? the 819m plans that isNot plans as in diagrams, internal letters I found on the Burj Dubai's project management mainframe server. I have only read about 3000 of them so far, I've posted about 400 of the most interesting ones on my website over the last year. They are official memorandums that were entered into a mainframe database that some naughty monkey kept eluding attempts to stop him from downloading everything including live CCTV footage, GPS data, and internal emails. :uh: beyond 1000 March 7th, 2008, 06:11 AM Thanks Skytower for your fantastic work and info. It would be cool to see BD go for absolute maximum height. Let us know when Dubaimegaprojects is up and running for more detailed information. Dettol......let me know when you want to rip your clothes off. I'll be running the other way. :lol: Actually if BD reaches over 900m I'll run with you yelling Eureka in stereo. :lol::lol: Tumbling Dice March 7th, 2008, 06:41 AM the tower alone is expected to cost over $5 billion USD. worth every last cent .. thanks so much for expert input into this thread Skytower - and again to all the photo contributors thank you, thank you, thank you. Sky Tower March 7th, 2008, 06:57 AM ^^ You're most welcome! :okay: I think maybe I've been misunderstood? The 135m increase is the 3 stage jump from 705m, not from 818m. I'm saying the final height will be around 840m...not 954m. I apologize if it sounded misleading. First jump - 3rd April 2006 - Rose from the initial designed 705m to 808.4m Second Jump November - 29th 2006 - Revision to mezzanine layer configuration and L162-164 transition pushed it to 818.0m Third Jump - 27th June 2007 - Height changes to L154-L156, setback configuration and taller pinnacle pushes it to around 840m :cheers: DennisS March 7th, 2008, 10:15 AM That would be fantastic, I'm so curious to the spire jacking!! But will final height or total completion be reached nov 2009..?? Sky Tower March 7th, 2008, 10:25 AM Yes, as far as I know. The exterior is about 3 weeks behind and the interior is about 4 months behind. Should be topped out and fully clad by the end of next year. AltinD March 7th, 2008, 10:40 AM Samsung presented this week in a conference held in Dubai, a video showing the spire and pinnacle erection technique to be used. A friend of mine was there to see it, and so was Jan. I'll meet the guy tomorrow and ask. Imre March 7th, 2008, 10:46 AM Yes, as far as I know. The exterior is about 3 weeks behind and the interior is about 4 months behind. Should be topped out and fully clad by the end of next year. so, handover in 2010:) Imre March 7th, 2008, 01:26 PM 07/March/2008 Burj Dubai and Islamic Bank Towers http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3351/imresolt044it8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) BlackSmith! March 7th, 2008, 01:33 PM The construction method and shape of Islamic bank towers is very similar to those of Burj Dubai. A BD little brother:D Old Town Resident March 7th, 2008, 03:00 PM Extending crane height in the clouds this morning. http://i31.tinypic.com/2laan1l.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/ay6dld.jpg phillybud March 7th, 2008, 03:19 PM What a difference the glass cladding makes! The shape of the Burj is elegant, like a huge frozen fountain. Imre March 7th, 2008, 04:00 PM 07/March/2008 Burj Dubai http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1003/imresolt03gb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/434/imresolt43bi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8180/imresolt21mz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9373/imresolt19nw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4508/imresolt01za2.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt01za2.jpg)http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5404/imresolt04kx1.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt04kx1.jpg)http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1121/imresolt05zo3.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt05zo3.jpg)http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1514/imresolt06sl1.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt06sl1.jpg)http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8977/imresolt08uf9.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt08uf9.jpg)http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/73/imresolt09au6.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt09au6.jpg) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8317/imresolt10ip2.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt10ip2.jpg)http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2356/imresolt13xb2.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt13xb2.jpg)http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1272/imresolt14wr2.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt14wr2.jpg)http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8150/imresolt16je7.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt16je7.jpg)http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9711/imresolt20vu7.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt20vu7.jpg)http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5455/imresolt21pm8.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt21pm8.jpg) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2474/imresolt26wz9.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt26wz9.jpg)http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/889/imresolt27bb9.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt27bb9.jpg)http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1592/imresolt33vu6.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt33vu6.jpg)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1021/imresolt34gh7.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt34gh7.jpg) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2600/imresolt36zj5.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt36zj5.jpg)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4054/imresolt38ol8.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt38ol8.jpg)http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5517/imresolt40ow3.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt40ow3.jpg)http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8333/imresolt46ej2.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt46ej2.jpg)http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/105/imresolt48mz2.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt48mz2.jpg) Jan March 7th, 2008, 04:10 PM Here is a selection of Burj Dubai takes from a Dubai pix thread I started somewhere else. 10. On the right hand side of the previous image the Burj Dubai development is under construction. The Burj Dubai tower off course being just one of the project in that area. Burj Dubai seen from the Old Town. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1095.jpg 11. Girly in the bottom right trying to capture the thing. Really need some wide angles here. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1092.jpg 12. Hotel Tower seen from the same spot. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1094.jpg 13. Seen straight accross from Sheikh Zayed Road, metro line just not blocking the views. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1097.jpg 14. One poor little concrete mixer having to go all the way up. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1093.jpg 15. From a distance the height of the Burj Dubai is most impressive, especailly when there is an almost surrealistic contrast between desert and skyline. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1109.jpg 16. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1110.jpg 17. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1112.jpg 18. Two pics where Burj Dubai can be seen from Sheikh Zayed Road http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1116.jpg 19. The Index Tower actually blocking a lot of the views here. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1117.jpg 20. On tour to the Burj Dubai construction site http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1118.jpg 21. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1119.jpg 22. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1120.jpg 23. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1121.jpg 24. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1122.jpg 25. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1123.jpg 26. Typo. :) http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1124.jpg 27. The smart thing is that Emaar develops not only the tower but also the whole area surrounding it. All these little towers here can be sold at 'Burj View' premium. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1125.jpg 28. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1126.jpg 29. From concrete onto steel. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1127.jpg 30. Apartment at the sales center on a scale of 1:1. This one is located on the 60th floor and was sold for app. $2.5m. Now it is reselling at $5m. So that equals $2.5m / (365 x 3) = $2.283 value raise per day. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1128.jpg 31. Probably one of the best spots is the terrace of the sales center. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1129.jpg 40. "objects in the mirror are taller then they appear". http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1090.jpg ZZ-II March 7th, 2008, 04:20 PM awesome pics Jan am Imre!! ZZ-II March 7th, 2008, 04:20 PM double post, delete Ember-To-Ashes March 7th, 2008, 07:44 PM *speechless* i was going to post some special angled pictures of the Burj dubai and other towers i took in sketchup... but i think i'll wait a few hours untill the posts about these truely amazing pictures have died down =) e.g .......... http://i26.tinypic.com/3586nbl.jpg Have lots of weird and wonderfull angles =) lemme know if u can think of an angle and i will get a shot =) Old Town Resident March 7th, 2008, 07:52 PM http://i29.tinypic.com/2zss9bc.jpg jaja3000jaja March 7th, 2008, 08:33 PM Can't wait to see finished apartments when this place is completed!! ZZ-II March 7th, 2008, 08:37 PM the base cladding looks absolutely great without the protection foil, wonder how long they'll need to finish all 3 entrances Harborist March 7th, 2008, 08:45 PM Is the base cladding similar to the type to be used on the mechanical floors? ZZ-II March 7th, 2008, 08:55 PM no, the mechanical cladding will be quite different to the base cladding :). it will be similar like the mech.-cladding on trump tower chicago Fury March 7th, 2008, 09:38 PM However, I am surprised that nobody has yet picked up the fact that L154-L156 are taller than shown on any plan.....which is where the heights now mismatch all diagrams shown on this forum, including the latest ones that I supplied. Hi all. Been away working ( son in-law talked me into helping him out for 3 LONG days on a swab rig - Wayyyy too old for that ! ) - wow some kewl new info and great shots from Imre and OTR - Thanx to all. Ok Sky - you have been a great contributer of fantastic info and plans - hell all the prints and mega info I have come from your efforts to keep us informed and I have nothing but praise for that - but .... - I gotta dispute the above quote. In no way am I saying you are trying to mislead us - perhaps the particular memo you got was in error. :dunno: I will use yet another great shot from Imre here. For the concrete portion I added arrows to show the pour lines that clearly show each pour. They used various pour steps and heights up to level 139 that I put into my plan by studying thousands of shots, but starting at 140 they used 3 pours of 3.2 m. for 2 - 4.8 m. levels. The shot shows they continued this to levels 150 and 151. Because they only had 3 levels ( 152, 153, and 154 ) left before the 3.2 m. level 155 they changed to 4 - 3.6 m. pours for the 3- 4.8 m. levels. Then 155 and 155 mezz. were poured at 3.2 m each. The pour lines are clearly visable and are the same as planned by my eye. The first steel level ( 156 ) looks to me to be the same height as 155 and 155 mezz. together ( 6.4 m. ). 157 looks like 6.4 m. as does 158 and 158 mezz. together. http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/45101/2005544327792562045_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005544327792562045) Now I didn't take a tape measure to Dubai and go up and measure myself but I think the have stuck to the plan for these levels. http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/47609/2005567830587889827_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005567830587889827) http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/46654/2005598663440551255_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005598663440551255) Please do not take this as any kind of bash my friend, I welcome the chance to make a ver. 4 of my plan - especially if it is to make it taller - but i see no evidence to take that action yet. :cheers: idkblk March 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM @Oldtown: Of how many fotos is that made of? 3? If i had.. lets say 12 "mosaik" fotos you could really make an impressive stitch up ZZ-II March 7th, 2008, 11:15 PM From Flickr, march 4th: http://i25.tinypic.com/256bsp5.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/b6aqvl.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/xayz5h.jpg Philipp5 March 7th, 2008, 11:43 PM Check out this 86 Page PDF (6.2MB) with pictures and descriptions on crazy UAE developments from a company called "Mirvac" dated January 2008. Dubai_and_UAE_Architecture_Jan_08.pdf (http://www.instrumentec.com/posts/Dubai_and_UAE_Architecture_Jan_08.pdf) Tristan1 March 8th, 2008, 12:00 AM Just give it 5 years and Dubai will make NYC look like a tiny little town in Texas. LOL Yes but Dubai will be a Ghost town, where there are hundreds of empty buildings! http://i29.tinypic.com/2zss9bc.jpg Is the cladding on the left bottom the stuff without with the protecting foil on! as it looks 100 times better, i firstly thought that the bottom cladding was awful, but it will not be too bad if it is like the stuff on the bottom left! Why couldn’t they just keep all of the cladding the same! It would look a lot better! Maybe it is to do with terrorism, and to protect the lower part of the building from possible car bombs or something! :dunno: jaja3000jaja March 8th, 2008, 12:18 AM I'm sure they will fill up in due time. helghast March 8th, 2008, 12:39 AM ^^ You're most welcome! :okay: I think maybe I've been misunderstood? The 135m increase is the 3 stage jump from 705m, not from 818m. I'm saying the final height will be around 840m...not 954m. I apologize if it sounded misleading. First jump - 3rd April 2006 - Rose from the initial designed 705m to 808.4m Second Jump November - 29th 2006 - Revision to mezzanine layer configuration and L162-164 transition pushed it to 818.0m Third Jump - 27th June 2007 - Height changes to L154-L156, setback configuration and taller pinnacle pushes it to around 840m :cheers: so it might be around 840m ?, is that what ur saying Yes but Dubai will be a Ghost town, where there are hundreds of empty buildings! i dont know how many times this has been said, but there not going to be empty. i dont know were u get that at The-Real-Link March 8th, 2008, 02:43 AM Jan, Imre, and OTR. thank you for your jawdropping contributions to this thread. I'm simply speechless at some of these shots from far back. I know it's low but even with a full-screen view at 800x600 res, I can't even fit the vertical shots on my screen. Really just makes you feel like you're looking at something truly special. Jan, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of range did you use on the shots with your lens(es)? Seems to be at least a 18-25mm? I have to wonder that when I go to Dubai eventually if my 50mm even has a chance to get the whole BD in view without going so far out into the desert to be in the middle of "nowhere"! Haha! *Edit* - Ember, very cool models too! They almost have this sketched feel to them, despite being able to freely rotate or position your camera in that program. Looks like you put *a lot* of time into it so also wanted to say thank you for presenting that. Ember-To-Ashes March 8th, 2008, 03:03 AM It's weird how the concrete pours dont line up with the Floor slabs lol. hmm Ember-To-Ashes March 8th, 2008, 03:05 AM [QUOTE *Edit* - Ember, very cool models too! They almost have this sketched feel to them, despite being able to freely rotate or position your camera in that program. Looks like you put *a lot* of time into it so also wanted to say thank you for presenting that.[/QUOTE] Hey thanks, they're not my models,i just downloaded them from google. but i have alot more angled pics i will put up right now =) Ember-To-Ashes March 8th, 2008, 03:16 AM Some Nice Angles... http://i26.tinypic.com/3586nbl.jpg Looking From The Top Of The Spire Down On The Other Towers... And Looking From The Skybridge on the Shaghai 492m Tower, Up to the Almighty Burj Dubai http://i32.tinypic.com/2rgm8h5.jpg Height Comparison Picture http://i26.tinypic.com/255rlvc.jpg More Cool Angles =) http://i27.tinypic.com/2rnx4rr.jpg Mans-Eye-View http://i28.tinypic.com/2uol6vt.jpg p.s sorry for possible triple post... and if a MOD doesnt like me putting these pics up, could you please just remove the IMG parts from the code insteasd of deleting the post, and they can be viewed by links then. Thanks =) If Anyone has anymore Angles theyd like me to capture.. tell me and i'll try my best! (p.s.2...lol... as you can see ive tried to round off the spire because the original had a triangular spire.. dunnu why... lol but this has also made the tower slightly taller... probably 30m or so... =p so sorry for that if its annoying anyone, i just didnt like a trinagular spire!) Banjaluchanin March 8th, 2008, 03:25 AM Wow! Those are some pretty cool angles, especially the last one of the Burj! cmkd12c@yahoo.com March 8th, 2008, 04:00 AM I don't know if anyone's posted this yet but i just thought you guys might want to see http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/vamos_tenista/52303412.html LoverOfDubai March 8th, 2008, 04:10 AM Is the cladding on the left bottom the stuff without with the protecting foil on! as it looks 100 times better, i firstly thought that the bottom cladding was awful, but it will not be too bad if it is like the stuff on the bottom left! Why couldn’t they just keep all of the cladding the same! It would look a lot better! Maybe it is to do with terrorism, and to protect the lower part of the building from possible car bombs or something! :dunno: Are you just joking, or are you serious? So far Dubai has not had any trouble with terrorism, and hopefully it never does. The government of the United Arab Emirates is addressing this issue with increased security at the border and ports of entry. Fury March 8th, 2008, 04:28 AM ^^ - Very Nice Video. Ember - nice sketchup stuff. They only poured up to 4.00 m. high except for the initial pour from the slab which was 5.25 m. That is why they used more pours than levels for all the 4.8 m. levels. :cheers: Tнomas™ March 8th, 2008, 04:52 AM http://i29.tinypic.com/2zss9bc.jpg Nice picture:cheers: tahir.DDS March 8th, 2008, 06:04 AM Here is a selection of Burj Dubai takes from a Dubai pix thread I started somewhere else. 10. On the right hand side of the previous image the Burj Dubai development is under construction. The Burj Dubai tower off course being just one of the project in that area. Burj Dubai seen from the Old Town. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1095.jpg 11. Girly in the bottom right trying to capture the thing. Really need some wide angles here. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1092.jpg 12. Hotel Tower seen from the same spot. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1094.jpg 13. Seen straight accross from Sheikh Zayed Road, metro line just not blocking the views. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1097.jpg 14. One poor little concrete mixer having to go all the way up. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1093.jpg 15. From a distance the height of the Burj Dubai is most impressive, especailly when there is an almost surrealistic contrast between desert and skyline. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1109.jpg 16. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1110.jpg 17. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1112.jpg 18. Two pics where Burj Dubai can be seen from Sheikh Zayed Road http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1116.jpg 19. The Index Tower actually blocking a lot of the views here. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1117.jpg 20. On tour to the Burj Dubai construction site http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1118.jpg 21. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1119.jpg 22. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1120.jpg 23. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1121.jpg 24. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1122.jpg 25. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1123.jpg 26. Typo. :) http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1124.jpg 27. The smart thing is that Emaar develops not only the tower but also the whole area surrounding it. All these little towers here can be sold at 'Burj View' premium. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1125.jpg 28. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1126.jpg 29. From concrete onto steel. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1127.jpg 30. Apartment at the sales center on a scale of 1:1. This one is located on the 60th floor and was sold for app. $2.5m. Now it is reselling at $5m. So that equals $2.5m / (365 x 3) = $2.283 value raise per day. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1128.jpg 31. Probably one of the best spots is the terrace of the sales center. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1129.jpg 40. "objects in the mirror are taller then they appear". http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1090.jpg best pictures to-date ,thanks alot Mr. Alloy March 8th, 2008, 06:31 AM I'm sure Jan appreciates that, but did you have to repost all 40 photos? RON-E March 8th, 2008, 06:41 AM great pics! but was there a need to repost the entire post? robo_boss March 8th, 2008, 07:13 AM It amazes me how complex and rich this structure looks. :uh: A western country would never have the guts or the money to build anything like it. Middle-Island March 8th, 2008, 07:56 AM All it takes is more meters of steel and concrete. Not much in the way of guts. As if there aren't any expensive projects in the west. :| Top Gear March 8th, 2008, 08:17 AM I'd just like to share a cool video of the construction phase OF8SjuJRIHE saeed March 8th, 2008, 08:25 AM From this photos collection, I vote for photo number #: 20 to be the best Burj Dubai photo of all time!(up until now I mean).:okay::applause: saeed March 8th, 2008, 08:25 AM From this photos collection, I vote for photo number #: 20 to be the best Burj Dubai photo of all time!(up until now I mean).:okay::applause: LoverOfDubai March 8th, 2008, 09:10 AM I'd just like to share a cool video of the construction phase I have to say: that video is probably the best construction video of the Burj Dubai that I have ever seen. Thank you for posting it. I hope Emaar is doing a similar thing so we can see a full time-lapse view of construction. Sky Tower March 8th, 2008, 09:39 AM Hi Fury, yes I keep forgetting I you managed to nab the latest version just before I removed it from my site. :) If I remember rightly you managed to upload all of what had hosted? The changes were over the 705m blueprints, not the 808m ones. The height difference was exactly the same for both versions up until L154. L154 was 4.2m not 4.8, L155 had no mezz level and was 4.8m not 6.4m (2x3.2m) The first and each subsequent level went up in 5 blocks of 5 floors at 5.5m with no mezz, not 6.4m each devided by a mezz level. So, yes the details you have are the updated ones after the second changes, but are not incorporated to the higher level changes that appear in the 3rd set of changes from June 2007. In the powerpoint presentation they show changes that span the 705m and 808m changes. For instance, they show the 808m version with the 705m spire erection methodology which I found fascinating. The file name of the change is in the pdf files under the name revised-tower-height.pdf It gives the other relevant PMI numbers for reference to the changes in height from 808m to 818m and the ongoing PMI's after that link to the revisions dated 27 June 2007. If for some reason you don't have it...PM me your email address and I'll send all the files and some you may not have already! :cheers: Hi all. Been away working ( son in-law talked me into helping him out for 3 LONG days on a swab rig - Wayyyy too old for that ! ) - wow some kewl new info and great shots from Imre and OTR - Thanx to all. Ok Sky - you have been a great contributer of fantastic info and plans - hell all the prints and mega info I have come from your efforts to keep us informed and I have nothing but praise for that - but .... - I gotta dispute the above quote. In no way am I saying you are trying to mislead us - perhaps the particular memo you got was in error. :dunno: I will use yet another great shot from Imre here. For the concrete portion I added arrows to show the pour lines that clearly show each pour. They used various pour steps and heights up to level 139 that I put into my plan by studying thousands of shots, but starting at 140 they used 3 pours of 3.2 m. for 2 - 4.8 m. levels. The shot shows they continued this to levels 150 and 151. Because they only had 3 levels ( 152, 153, and 154 ) left before the 3.2 m. level 155 they changed to 4 - 3.6 m. pours for the 3- 4.8 m. levels. Then 155 and 155 mezz. were poured at 3.2 m each. The pour lines are clearly visable and are the same as planned by my eye. The first steel level ( 156 ) looks to me to be the same height as 155 and 155 mezz. together ( 6.4 m. ). 157 looks like 6.4 m. as does 158 and 158 mezz. together. http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/45101/2005544327792562045_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005544327792562045) Now I didn't take a tape measure to Dubai and go up and measure myself but I think the have stuck to the plan for these levels. http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/47609/2005567830587889827_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005567830587889827) http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/46654/2005598663440551255_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005598663440551255) Please do not take this as any kind of bash my friend, I welcome the chance to make a ver. 4 of my plan - especially if it is to make it taller - but i see no evidence to take that action yet. :cheers: Sky Tower March 8th, 2008, 09:47 AM 30. Apartment at the sales center on a scale of 1:1. This one is located on the 60th floor and was sold for app. $2.5m. Now it is reselling at $5m. So that equals $2.5m / (365 x 3) = $2.283 value raise per day. http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1128.jpg Yes Jan, mine is just underneath that one the same side on L59. Mine has a premium of 189% in under a year and a half. :nuts: giovani kun March 8th, 2008, 10:19 AM ^^ that appartment looks just breath taking :) dettol March 8th, 2008, 11:18 AM LOL @ The 'Stuby' Index!! :D http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1128.jpg jak3m March 8th, 2008, 11:57 AM They could of made an effort with the apartment showroom... Jesse24 March 8th, 2008, 12:31 PM we are at the rate of at least a page a day here now:shocked: AshMat March 8th, 2008, 01:20 PM My god the steel is going so slowly, any idea when it might pick up a bit? CrazyDave March 8th, 2008, 04:25 PM It amazes me how complex and rich this structure looks. :uh: A western country would never have the guts or the money to build anything like it. Tha FAA has a very strict rule that no building in the States can accede a hight of 2,000 feet. The Chicago Spire is being built right to that hight limit. Also, in the States we have to pay Union Wages, which would make a building like Burj Dubai far more expensive to build here. tahir.DDS March 8th, 2008, 04:55 PM oops never realize they are 40 of them. idkblk March 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM Yes Jan, mine is just underneath that one the same side on L59. Mine has a premium of 189% in under a year and a half. :nuts: Are you actually moving there? Or is it just an "investment" like it's mostly done in dubai. Just selling stuff over and over at a higher price but with actually rarely anybody moving there. What height is level 60? Is it really that high above the Index? Index isn't exactly a "short" building. When i see the burj now at about 610 metres @ 160 stories that makes level 60 @ about 230 metres... and you'd have to look up to the Index then. It's no way that far down like on the picture. The-Real-Link March 8th, 2008, 09:43 PM It's interesting in that maybe they made the showroom screen when the index was where it was during construction (or earlier). It looks finished (cladding on the building) but only to the first third of the building as you can see the ground (yet the joined formworks on top remain). My guess is either that it's just a rough idea of how things look for someone visiting the apartment or a sly tactic to show a view unblocked by the Index when even at L60 it will be to an extent (since Index is only 1/3 completed there). I think it's still nicely done and whether that is all truth or fiction in reality still doesn't underscore the fact that the showroom is still just a nice way for prospects to get a general idea of the place. I'm sure people know it's not perfect but it looks just fine to me! Steel's really going fast now! I wonder how much longer until we see cladding on the mechanicals? Have any of you guys seen any larger HVAC stuff being moved in? Despite a district approach, this building must still have a crazy amount of large pumps / conditioners and other machinery going in. AltinD March 8th, 2008, 09:47 PM They have started cladding above the next setback, but it is on the the side that rarely get photographed. Dennis March 8th, 2008, 10:25 PM greet pictures jan! Wow skyperu34 March 9th, 2008, 03:23 AM OMG !!! These pics are the best !!! A new floor is going up, that means more than 620 m. now... oliver999 March 9th, 2008, 04:02 AM i heard from radio this building will be delayed for some time. the swiss glass manufacory has been bankrupted,a chinese glass factory will provide the glass. Hollie Maea March 9th, 2008, 04:11 AM i heard from radio this building will be delayed for some time. the swiss glass manufacory has been bankrupted,a chinese glass factory will provide the glass. That information is almost a year old. The new company already took over, and as you can see by looking at the pictures, they had no problems at all making up for the lost time. TOB1AS March 9th, 2008, 04:26 AM Tha FAA has a very strict rule that no building in the States can accede a hight of 2,000 feet. The Chicago Spire is being built right to that hight limit. Also, in the States we have to pay Union Wages, which would make a building like Burj Dubai far more expensive to build here. How come? Is it only because of air traffic? Gattberserk March 9th, 2008, 05:12 AM Are they on the 6th steel floors now even? Sky Tower March 9th, 2008, 05:13 AM Are you actually moving there? Or is it just an "investment" like it's mostly done in dubai. Just selling stuff over and over at a higher price but with actually rarely anybody moving there. What height is level 60? Is it really that high above the Index? Index isn't exactly a "short" building. When i see the burj now at about 610 metres @ 160 stories that makes level 60 @ about 230 metres... and you'd have to look up to the Index then. It's no way that far down like on the picture.Actually, people may have the impression that I'm an unscrupulous investor out for all he can get, but that's not so with this one. I don't ever plan on selling it at any price as to me it's already priceless as this project is very close to my heart....besides...I have a 26 x 2 week x 25 year shared equity contract on the apartment anyway and my father is holding the contract deeds in trust. The only time I physically benefit financially from it is when the last 30% down payment is made upon completion which is all profit. So, to answer your question...will I be moving there....not until 2032 when the title deeds revert completely back to me once the contracts expire. Until then all I get is 2 weeks per year for maintenance. So it looks like I've got the floor at OTR's place 'til then! :lol: aravinda March 9th, 2008, 06:24 AM does anyone have any info on when the mech floor scaffolding goes up or pics of samples being tested? iMike March 9th, 2008, 07:04 AM LOL @ The 'Stuby' Index!! :D http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1128.jpg why's the index so dawrfed since that apartment is on the 60TH floor. I thought the index was 80 something stories high and thus people in that apartment should be looking up to the Index! Hollie Maea March 9th, 2008, 08:16 AM does anyone have any info on when the mech floor scaffolding goes up or pics of samples being tested? No. Probably soon though. AltinD March 9th, 2008, 01:49 PM why's the index so dawrfed since that apartment is on the 60TH floor. I thought the index was 80 something stories high and thus people in that apartment should be looking up to the Index! That's not the actual view from the windows, it is just ilustration. malec March 9th, 2008, 02:07 PM They forgot to put in the top half of the index :weird: ZZ-II March 9th, 2008, 02:09 PM do you see the top of Index? looks like that's still formwork...so i guess they've added an "UC Index" ^^ AltinD March 9th, 2008, 02:19 PM It's a actual pictures that has been photoshopped to look slightly better, it doesn't mean anything. DubaiRover March 9th, 2008, 02:20 PM took this picture today from the car sunroof at around 1 PM http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/46434/2001234329799616619_rs.jpg e83 March 9th, 2008, 06:53 PM They cut the Index because the building blocks the view. Just marketing. Smack!! March 9th, 2008, 07:59 PM ^lol what? ZZ-II March 9th, 2008, 08:20 PM he was referring to that shot: http://www.fotosvanrotterdam.nl/pix/01/1128.jpg nickswfc March 9th, 2008, 08:32 PM took this picture today from the car sunroof at around 1 PM http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/46434/2001234329799616619_rs.jpg That's amazing! here in Sheffield we get excited at a 100m+ lol Smack!! March 9th, 2008, 09:16 PM ^lol in Dubai we get disappointed. Bluesence March 9th, 2008, 09:43 PM Brilliant pictures Jan!! nickswfc March 9th, 2008, 09:45 PM Seriously, I am actually quite amazed by that photo. I generally tend to stay in the Sheffield and UK areas, we often get comments like ' Up to nine floors - it's looking abit dense now' or 'whoop..whoop seventy metres' :D /-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8 March 9th, 2008, 09:59 PM Wooow the pictures are beutifulls:banana::banana::banana: germantower March 9th, 2008, 10:52 PM http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1930/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx3.jpg Fury March 9th, 2008, 10:53 PM Hi all. Picasa - Joy - 08 03 01 http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/47602/2004490858110818011_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004490858110818011) :cheers: giovani kun March 9th, 2008, 11:15 PM I have one question what is the tallest tower that has cladding ?? ZZ-II March 9th, 2008, 11:17 PM Burj Dubai? ^^ LeMoN-SK March 9th, 2008, 11:23 PM I have one question what is the tallest tower that has cladding ?? You mean tallest completed tower? In Dubai or worlwide? Tallest completed worldwide is still Taipei 101 and in Dubai it is Rose Rotana, soon to be outrun by Almas Tower. LoverOfDubai March 10th, 2008, 02:51 AM You mean tallest completed tower? In Dubai or worlwide? Tallest completed worldwide is still Taipei 101 and in Dubai it is Rose Rotana, soon to be outrun by Almas Tower. Actually it is Emirates Office Tower. Rose Rotana (333 m/1,093 ft) is shorter than Emirates Office Tower (355 m/1,163 ft). Леонид March 10th, 2008, 02:52 AM Actually, people may have the impression that I'm an unscrupulous investor out for all he can get, but that's not so with this one. I don't ever plan on selling it at any price as to me it's already priceless as this project is very close to my heart....besides...I have a 26 x 2 week x 25 year shared equity contract on the apartment anyway and my father is holding the contract deeds in trust. The only time I physically benefit financially from it is when the last 30% down payment is made upon completion which is all profit. So, to answer your question...will I be moving there....not until 2032 when the title deeds revert completely back to me once the contracts expire. Until then all I get is 2 weeks per year for maintenance. So it looks like I've got the floor at OTR's place 'til then! :lol: Can I visit?? Ember-To-Ashes March 10th, 2008, 03:52 AM look at the 2 pictures above me.... the one dated the 8th March u can see 4/6 floors of cladding needed before the next mech floor.... then on the 9th you can see all of the cladding is done ! HOW FAST IS THAT =O Hollie Maea March 10th, 2008, 04:31 AM ^^ Look again it is dated March 1 not March 8 :) ^sneakers^ March 10th, 2008, 05:10 AM awesome pics. my god it's so tall! look how it dwarfs the other buildings. :banana: giovani kun March 10th, 2008, 09:24 AM I have one question what is the tallest tower that has cladding ?? ^^ sorry for this question ..I meant what is the tallest floor that the cladding has reached now in Burj Dubai of course :) is it level 90 ? CULWULLA March 10th, 2008, 09:29 AM ok, my turn to ASK silly question. how high is mighty burjD now? has the 5th steel section gone up? any more closeups or just far shots. Old Town Resident March 10th, 2008, 10:04 AM ok, my turn to ASK silly question. how high is mighty burjD now? has the 5th steel section gone up? any more closeups or just far shots. Great question CUL: LOL Skymyhusband March 10th, 2008, 10:19 AM :D Old Town Resident March 10th, 2008, 10:20 AM ^^ sorry for this question ..I meant what is the tallest floor that the cladding has reached now in Burj Dubai of course :) is it level 90 ? about 109 Old Town Resident March 10th, 2008, 12:50 PM Nadal video at BD http://www.7days.ae/cj2_video.php?id=150 Ember-To-Ashes March 10th, 2008, 01:18 PM ah my bad, only looked at the datwe briefly and its round the wrong way >< confusing! lol Also... coool video of Nadal.... did anyone else see the Triangular hole in the middle of the steel part... hmmmm ZZ-II March 10th, 2008, 05:28 PM Nadal video at BD http://www.7days.ae/cj2_video.php?id=150 that view from above is simply :drool:. i would give all to visit the very top of the BD when it is completed! Jonathan Lee March 10th, 2008, 08:48 PM Jeez, i can see why Nadal was a bit worried in the lift. It's a long way to go out in the openand especially if it's your first time. ZZ-II March 10th, 2008, 10:44 PM March 9th: http://i29.tinypic.com/14mrxg7.jpg CULWULLA March 11th, 2008, 12:51 AM ^wow the steel section now measures 31m/100ft above concrete section http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/73/burjtopdetailrh5.jpg march7 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2316729776_70c7f4c1be_o.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2022/2316728604_97b91183f2_o.jpg mclancer March 11th, 2008, 02:29 AM Any idea when the mechanical levels will start to be cladded? (other than when they install all the mechanical stuff) FM 2258 March 11th, 2008, 03:24 AM ^^ I've probably said it 8 times already but I really love your diagrams. 100ft is alot. You fall from 100ft and most people die. CULWULLA March 11th, 2008, 03:27 AM ^yes, its equal to 10storey block of flats. the next section shouldnt be too far away helghast March 11th, 2008, 03:28 AM i really dont like how noticeable the facade height increase. from above the 4th Mech floor. like it ruins the buildings reputation http://i29.tinypic.com/14mrxg7.jpg jlh630 March 11th, 2008, 03:42 AM i really dont like how noticeable the facade height increase. from above the 4th Mech floor. like it ruins the buildings reputation http://i29.tinypic.com/14mrxg7.jpg I wouldn't worry too much. I know you've mentioned that before, but I think once all the cladding is complete in and around that area you won't mind it. CUL- Are we still speculating a new crane will be installed for the rest of the steel structure like in your diagram? Seems like it'd be up by now, and there doesn't seem to be any reason to stop using the existing cranes. Just a thought... dettol March 11th, 2008, 04:18 AM ^^If they are still planning on replacing the crane, I think this will happen once they reach Tier 18, lvl 162. CULWULLA March 11th, 2008, 05:15 AM i think the current cranes will be extended a little further. the steel crane should be coming up soon. and others removed. dettol March 11th, 2008, 05:52 AM Do you mean they will be extended a little further than lvl 162? If so, what makes you think that Cul? emzeti March 11th, 2008, 06:13 AM March 9th: http://i29.tinypic.com/14mrxg7.jpg i can see so much improvement since my last visit here last 2 months.. thanks for sharing the pics. world1 March 11th, 2008, 06:56 AM can anyone tell me which is the 2nd tallest building in the world?? Experts_Only March 11th, 2008, 06:56 AM If Old Town Resident's estimation of the number of floors with cladding is correct, 109, that means that another record is soon to be broken: the most floors with cladding ever to be built. As far as I know, second place is the Sears Tower with 110 floors, or the former World Trade Center Towers (110 each). Although the Taipei 101 is taller, it has fewer (101) floors. Within days or already, if someone can confirm, a new record will be/has been established. As for the second tallest building in the world, it depends on your criteria... 2nd tallest completed without antennae included: Shanghai World Financial Center 2nd tallest by roof height: Taipei 101 2nd tallest by any extension (spire or antenna): Currently Taipei 101, formerly 1WTC Or...if you include the Burj Dubai in those lists despite its being under construction: 2nd tallest without antennae included: Taipei 101 2nd tallest by roof height: Shanghai World Financial Center 2nd tallest by any extension: Sears Tower dettol March 11th, 2008, 07:09 AM Consider the BD is not fully claded. I dont believe we can unofficially proclaim it as the building with the most cladded floors until cladding of the mech levels is completed. It sure will be a sight when this is finally done... Experts_Only March 11th, 2008, 07:25 AM Continuous or not, mechanical floors included or not, it still will possess the most cladded floors, so I believe at least an unofficial recognition of this is acceptable. I do see your point though, because certainly the CTBUH or any subsequent organization will not proclaim this fact officially (due to its discontinuous incompletion). Think of it as another cause for celebration though, to follow beating the antennae height of the Sears Tower, vertical pumping record, and CN Tower record respectively. It definitely will look more impressive once the cladding is continuous... I liken this disputation to the Burj Dubai's distinction as the tallest building in the world now; I consider it thusly, despite its status as "under construction". Old Town Resident March 11th, 2008, 07:56 AM Cladding still zooming on, I guess we will see the section above the 4th mechanical to the 5th mechanical complete before end April, including the base and wing to east of BD http://i27.tinypic.com/hs3t37.jpg http://i32.tinypic.com/anycd0.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/iyg50p.jpg |