the 818m version is the most realistic of the 3 IMO

What about it?

Yeah what about the fact that is what they are building.

The 818m looks the most eloquent =)

(i've added an edit of the 818m version, with completed tier and re-aligned steel section so it lines up correctly. hope this is ok)

http://i23.tinypic.com/o56exu.jpg

It looks way to thin imo.
It takes away the impressive massivness of the burj.
It looks so fragile with the part they are going to start with now :(

I found a diagram can show maybe all the BD models

click bleow to enter

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?b7787

October 21st:

http://i20.tinypic.com/2di59pt.jpg

October 21st:

http://i20.tinypic.com/2di59pt.jpg

:eek2:

Very nice pic.......

October 21st:
http://i20.tinypic.com/2di59pt.jpg

wow! thats an amazing picture...

oh,and, :ahem: I'd like to also take this time to introduce myself, I've technically been a "member" of SSC for a few months now, and i've been avidly following this thread, but just recently i've been able to actually make an account.

So, its good to be here! :cheers:

I think, the diagram of the three versions of Burj Dubai is wrong.
The design for the 808 meters of Burj Dubai is not the same that the 900 and 1011 version.
For me, the Burj Dubai will have more than 818 meters, but less than 860 meters.

What ever the height. This building is already so high that it sets a benchmark for future skyscrapers to follow.

May it be 700 or 1011 meters versions. The building never looses its shine on the world.

cheers :cheers:

i remember reading about this building about 4 years ago, i never thought it would go up so fast!

21/October/2007



Burj Dubai


for Kimi Raikkonen and the Ferrari , congratulations:) :cheers:


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21/October/2007



Burj Dubai


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21/October/2007
for Kimi Raikkonen and the Ferrari , congratulations:) :cheers:



italians do it better... thnx again Imre

Seems like they have stopped at the top now?

Great Updates Imre :) the weather seems clear today and congrats for Raikonnen,:cheers:

Does the lower part's glass seem to have poor quality compared to the middle and top cladding, you can clearly spot it's wavy and ripply unlike the others !!


for Kimi Raikkonen and the Ferrari , congratulations:) :cheers:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1494/imresolt20ob2.th.jpg

21/October/2007



Burj Dubai

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6646/imresolt52lx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and the lake

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as i can count they've started with floor 156 :)

Great updates.. I think it's the 818 version too..

Did you change something with your camera? These pictures are much brighter and sharper then most of the other ones...
Looking just great!


PS: For the first time now i turned my 19:10 flatscreen by 90° to watch the whole height of the building in fullsize without having to scroll vertically.... HOLLY SHIT!!!

same camera and same settings , the weather was very clear today.

This looks strange to me :crazy:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3240/imresolt49eo8lx9.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt49eo8lx9.jpg)

Some great recent pictures from flickr:


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6428/1667109511e10a690deaotw7.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1667109511e10a690deaotw7.jpg)

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Just bringing this up again as noone seemed to have paid any attention to it earlier. From what I recall, there were several issues and delays with respect to the quality of the panels which were supposed to have been resolved. However, looking at this glass makes me wonder if something has gone terribly wrong...

Does anyone have an explanation as to why the glass looks like this? Could it simply be the accumulated dust and sand giving this effect

Great Updates Imre :) the weather seems clear today and congrats for Raikonnen,:cheers:

Does the lower part's glass seem to have poor quality compared to the middle and top cladding, you can clearly spot it's wavy and ripply unlike the others !!

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1494/imresolt20ob2.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt20ob2.jpg)

How is the chance that the 1011 meters version get´s build? :master::master:

50:50 ? :cheers:

Dubai is awesome! More than they ever imagined.

:) Everyone has been putting in posts like "awesome!" and "OMG this is great!" ... I would just like to say WHY I like the Burj. I disagree with those who say it is too slender. I think it soars, it is slender, sleek and very modern. This is an elegant building. Now that the glass cladding is being put on, it's really beginning to sparkle like a diamond.

In the past I think some folks thought I was against this building, let me set the record straight. I was merely concerned that large groups of people would not be allowed to see it (according to an article I read) ... but the information was exaggerated and I have since learned that you should have no problem visiting Dubai on account of your religion.

My one question: Is this solely a residential tower, or will it be a "mixed use" building with business offices, a hotel, restaurants, entertainment venues, etc???? Will there be any night clubs, bars, cocktail lounges in there????:lol:

Hi philly... at this moment there are at least a couple of people responding to your questions :D

It will be mixed use and it will contain a variety of entertainment and leisure venues including cafes, movie theatres, gyms, ets. However a proportion of these will only be accessible by the local tenants.

:)
My one question: Is this solely a residential tower, or will it be a "mixed use" building with business offices, a hotel, restaurants, entertainment venues, etc???? Will there be any night clubs, bars, cocktail lounges in there????:lol:

Hi Phillybud.

The Burj Dubai is a mixed use building. A part will be used as a hotel and the rest will be used as office and residential usage.

Cheers Phill and hoped to awnserd your questions. :cheers:

How is the chance that the 1011 meters version get´s build? :master::master:

50:50 ? :cheers:

The changes off the 1011 meter version being built are very and i repeat very minute.

a few months to a half a year ago they had ounce the height putted at 1011 but it wasnt feasable.

The number one reason was that the shape off the tower would be very ugly and the progress was already too far to change the height that dramaticaly.

Anyway the building will be the next ESB. The ESB off the 21`st century.
May it be 705 or 808 or 950~ meters, it still keepes its magic.

Cheers Dubai Boomtown :cheers1:

wow, thanks imre.
looks like 1 more floor to go for concrete section. i count 155 in formwork. cladding is unreal
this tower is simply stunning.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
diagram update

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9739/burjdubaielevationbestyr6.jpg

How is the chance that the 1011 meters version get´s build? :master::master:

50:50 ? :cheers:

There never was a 1011 meter version. According to the gentlemen who was promoting that version, a redesign was going to happen at floor 76. We all know that didn't happen....

This looks strange to me :crazy:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3240/imresolt49eo8lx9.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt49eo8lx9.jpg)

for sure, it's not a fault, but very strange. How can they cover this little angle?

If the highest section of the spire is 1.2m in diameter (thanks for the fantastic diagram Culwulla)they could have a ladder inside with a glass dome or cone on top....well....why not get to the very top if you can!:banana:

[QUOTE=malec;16026111]Some great recent pictures from flickr:


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6428/1667109511e10a690deaotw7.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1667109511e10a690deaotw7.jpg)

Best shot.....

Wouldn't want to fall of the top of this one:lol:

why did my plane never made that turn over dubai....:bash:

Just bringing this up again as noone seemed to have paid any attention to it earlier. From what I recall, there were several issues and delays with respect to the quality of the panels which were supposed to have been resolved. However, looking at this glass makes me wonder if something has gone terribly wrong...

Does anyone have an explanation as to why the glass looks like this? Could it simply be the accumulated dust and sand giving this effect

No, no, nothing of that. It's just becouse of the way the reflections are captured by the UV Filter Imre uses in his camera.

The glass is the same throughout the tower.

This looks strange to me :crazy:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3240/imresolt49eo8lx9.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt49eo8lx9.jpg)

Thare's nothing wrong or a mistake there. That's how the shape of that corner is. :)

Thare's nothing wrong or a mistake there. That's how the shape of that corner is. :)


Yes I agree, it just the angle of the photo and the fact the other floors at that point are obscured.

If the highest section of the spire is 1.2m in diameter (thanks for the fantastic diagram Culwulla)they could have a ladder inside with a glass dome or cone on top....well....why not get to the very top if you can!:banana:
yes they have a ladder with access all the way to top of spire. It has a hatch and safety ring where maintenance guy can change aircraft beacon @ 818m up.

How is the chance that the 1011 meters version get´s build? :master::master:

50:50 ? :cheers:


50:50? I would say no more than 1:999

950m version would be 1:99 and 900m to be 1:9


Current 818m version would be 9:1 however

we've a 0% chance that the BD will be 1000m tall ^^

My one question: Is this solely a residential tower, or will it be a "mixed use" building with business offices, a hotel, restaurants, entertainment venues, etc???? Will there be any night clubs, bars, cocktail lounges in there????:lol:

Read the first post. It says mixed use. About nightclubs and stuff I don't know, there probably will be some bars and stuff though (depending on the hotel)

yes they have a ladder with access all the way to top of spire. It has a hatch and safety ring where maintenance guy can change aircraft beacon @ 818m up.

Once I saw a photo (don´t remember where) of a maintenance person at the very top of the CN Tower antenna standing up. I look for this photo but never find again.

we've a 0% chance that the BD will be 1000m tall ^^

We may never know if they have a 200m spire hidden within the building preparing to jack up anytime.



This may sound like a joke, but u get my idea!

We may never know if they have a 200m spire hidden within the building preparing to jack up anytime.

hidden spire? guy, that is exactly the plan ^^. the spire of the tower will be constructed inside of the steel-section and then it will be uplifted to the top ;). but not to 1000m

Great pics, Imre. Better composition each time. :)

No, no, nothing of that. It's just becouse of the way the reflections are captured by the UV Filter Imre uses in his camera.

The glass is the same throughout the tower.


UV Filter? What is that needed for?

To CULWULLA:

Corrected your diagram myself because its too hard to explain, i've corrected sum tiers and re aligned the spire so it is in alignment with the base. if you can, use this picture from now on when updating if thats possible.


http://i24.tinypic.com/214t729.jpg

*EDIT* the picture seems to have shrunk but i have the full size one on my computer. how can i get it to you?

No, no, nothing of that. It's just becouse of the way the reflections are captured by the UV Filter Imre uses in his camera.

The glass is the same throughout the tower.

I thought the glass on the podium levels were installed and supplied by the original cladding contractor (something to do with Emaar being obliged to uphold their original contract for a certain portion). The tower levels are bieng installed by the new cladding supplier. Please correct me if I am wrong on this....

^^ The point is that the glass it's the same throughout the tower and the visible differences are just optical ilusions.

I think that they are already at the last level now 155 mezzanine. I was looking at this Imres pic and a draw a few lines. Seems ok to me. What do you guys think?


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2804/reedituy3.jpg

I think that they are already at the last level now 155 mezzanine. I was looking at this Imres pic and a draw a few lines. Seems ok to me. What do you guys think?




I think this is why I come to this forum - thank you ( and IMRE ) and keep it up.

I think that they are already at the last level now 155 mezzanine. I was looking at this Imres pic and a draw a few lines. Seems ok to me. What do you guys ?

think level 155 is completed and they started with 156 now. you can see that the formwork is definitely higher than 155

Yeah, I think definitly L155M under construction now. That would be 586m on top. I hope formwork will be down by the end of the month.

Even now with such a small amount of the tower covered, it looks absolutely stunning! I can't wait to see the entire thing cladded, it'll be simply surreal!

Why the facade is stopped three or more floors before the first and the second mechanical floor, also in the two last levels from the wings??

When will they start with the mechanicals floor's facade??

As far as I know, the mechanicals facade will come the last.

I think it's going to keep on going more and more up!!!

Cuz I can't see the very top of it shaped....

Everytime I look the thead, I look Burj Dubai complex better.

I think it's going to keep on going more and more up!!!

Cuz I can't see the very top of it shaped....

Que bueno verte por estos rumbos Waldo.

Why the facade is stopped three or more floors before the first and the second mechanical floor, also in the two last levels from the wings??
When will they start with the mechanicals floor's facade??


This is due to the noise and vibration and dust created in the mechanical sectors at present, you must remember there's still a lot of concrete being pumped.

I think it's going to keep on going more and more up!!!




No shit Sherlock.

I find it strange that two floors are counted as one (155 and 155 mezzanine), while there are single floors that are counted as two...

Hi all.

Picasa - Ingmar Wilhelm - 07 10 22

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Nice shots as always Imre - good to see your back. :)

Nice shots from you as well Malec - I am another who thinks it should be OK to say that - Lets not start overmoderating like over at SSP. :nuts:

Enjoy. :cheers:

^yes the Burj Dubai floor network is very complicated. some floors are missed while others have mezzanines. Above 156 there are 9 floors with lev160 quoted as 160, 160mezz 1, 160 mezz 2, 160 mezz 3. thus 4 floors but same floor number. then you have about 30 floors above this which arent even counted because there not habitable.

^^

It's going to illuminate really well when the glass fully covers the building.

Hi all.

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Awesome night shots! Are there any good descriptions and or images of the night lighting of the BD once it is complete?

I've been reading the Freedom Tower thread a pinch, and it sounds like there is an extensive strategy for a brilliant lighting program there. Got me thinking about this one!

Culwulla, what do you mean by not habitable floors? what makes a floor habitable and what makes one not??
There's still a floor and a celing and windows around you, isn't that habitable?

Culwulla, what do you mean by not habitable floors? what makes a floor habitable and what makes one not??
There's still a floor and a celing and windows around you, isn't that habitable?

For the floors that they are just going to fill up with machinery, they don't add a lot of the finishings that they would on habitable floors (I would imagine insulation, consumer level electrical wiring, etc). Technically if a bum could somehow manage to sneak up there with some old newspaper and packing blankets, he could "habitate" in a mechanical floor, but it certainly wouldn't be habitable in the classical sense of the word.

So, Around Christmas it would be finished?

As far as I know, the mechanicals facade will come the last.

I agree because they need to bring in the mechanical equipment first before they do the cladding.

Thats is freakin huge, I love it. Has it officially taken the title of world's tallest yet?

^its higher then any skyscraper and worlds tallest self-supported structure. also tallest concrete structure.
It has to be officially opened to achive worlds tallest status.

yes, what hollie maea said.
pretty sure it has to consist of concrete floors, air cond, electircity ect.
phillybud- its actor James Caviezel

If you look at that picture, you will see that the last floor below the third mechanicals is number 72, mechanical floors are 73-75, the floor above is floor 76. From outside mechanical floors look like 2 floors, but count as 3. Maybe because they are higher or there are 3 floors only in core but not in the wings? Dont know really but the story is the same at each mechanical floors.


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1507/imresolt30ay1.jpg

OK, now I see...
Thanks mate! :)

So is BD on L156?

It has become more and more impressive as it continues to reach the sky. I insist: looks like a tower taken from a Star Wars movie.

So is BD on L156?
no, still pouring lev155.

L156 is still quite far away. First the concrete core has to be completed, and than formwork removed. After that they have to install a new crane by side of the core and dismantle the two cranes which are now in operation. Maybe they will even wait for concrete part to be fully completed before proceeding with steel. Will take quite a lot of time:(

they shuld have sed concrete peak...

Burj Dubai nearly at its peak

by ArabianBusiness.com staff writer on Saturday, 20 October 2007

The ‘topping out' of the Burj Dubai is expected to take place at the end of October. According to Geir Jensen, general manager of Doka Gulf, who are undertaking the formwork for the project, the company expects to finish the concrete works on the world's tallest tower by 24 October, paving the way for the steel work.

"We will top out with concrete within ten days," said Jensen.

Once this is complete, Doka Gulf will concentrate on completing the side aspects of the tower, the tapering nature of which will act as wind breaks.

Jensen added that the tower will reach a height of 585.75 metres once the concrete work has been completed.

But as the core starts 15.75 metres below ground level, the total height of the concrete structure will be 601 metres. The Burj Dubai will have 156 floors by the time it is finished, which is expected at the end of next year.

Malaysia's Eversendai Corporation recently won the $14.7 million contract from Samsung Corporation for the structural steelworks.

The company will require more than 4,000 tonnes of steel for the work.

The final height of the tower has not been disclosed by developer Emaar Properties. However, it is widely believed it will be more than 700 metres.

In September, the Burj Dubai surpassed Toronto's CN Tower to become the tallest free-standing structure in the world.

R

but what's that? concrete-topout tomorrow?

october 24th?? cool, that is already tomorrow :)

i can see some of the steel aspects on the core already from the pics.. cant wait to see it all without formwork.

Wow, according to the article above the tower is expected to be taller than 700 meter...

:lol:. don't you know that it probably will be between 800 and ~850m tall

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L156 is still quite far away. First the concrete core has to be completed, and than formwork removed. After that they have to install a new crane by side of the core and dismantle the two cranes which are now in operation. Maybe they will even wait for concrete part to be fully completed before proceeding with steel. Will take quite a lot of time:(

Ouch! That's bad news for me... So, when the Burj Dubai will be T/O? Aproximately...
I think that in Summer 2008

we cant tell atm, we have no idea how fast the will manage to put up a floor in the steel section, seeing as its different to pouring concrete and they only have 1 crane now.

what height actually have?

Originally Posted by THE DUBAI GUYS
they shuld have said concrete peak...

Burj Dubai nearly at its peak

by ArabianBusiness.com staff writer on Saturday, 20 October 2007

The ‘topping out' of the Burj Dubai is expected to take place at the end of October. According to Geir Jensen, general manager of Doka Gulf, who are undertaking the formwork for the project, the company expects to finish the concrete works on the world's tallest tower by 24 October, paving the way for the steel work.

"We will top out with concrete within ten days," said Jensen.

Once this is complete, Doka Gulf will concentrate on completing the side aspects of the tower, the tapering nature of which will act as wind breaks.

Jensen added that the tower will reach a height of 585.75 metres once the concrete work has been completed.

But as the core starts 15.75 metres below ground level, the total height of the concrete structure will be 601 metres. The Burj Dubai will have 156 floors by the time it is finished, which is expected at the end of next year.

Malaysia's Eversendai Corporation recently won the $14.7 million contract from Samsung Corporation for the structural steelworks.

The company will require more than 4,000 tonnes of steel for the work.

The final height of the tower has not been disclosed by developer Emaar Properties. However, it is widely believed it will be more than 700 metres.

In September, the Burj Dubai surpassed Toronto's CN Tower to become the tallest free-standing structure in the world.

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great stuff. so 601m above foundation! quite a feat.
so the 818m height = 833m if you include foundation.
i know alot of engineers who will go with the 833m height more so then 818m. This is where BurjDubai begins.
but im happy with 818m above grd.
This is going fine guys, cant complain about its speed since it started. really.
I dont want it to be finished just yet. This is history and we should be soaking it all in.
before you know its finished and we will be gripeing over anther tower.
I think its great it will stay at lev156 for a while so all concrete floor plates can catch up.
next year the steel will start and this will be an amAzing time watching it slowly reach into heights never before seen.
patience guys.
for those who want to know CURRENT HEIGHT its lev155 or 582.5m. just lev155mezz floor to go as article says.
cheers

Already? Isn't that a bit early if its gonna be 818 meters?

^yes its very misleading. lots of people are gonna think its topped out. but little do they realize its just the concrete section. still a substantal part of the tower to go being another 200m high!

here is an amended diagram showing the 3 levels BELOW GRD which = 15.75m. then the 3.7m think slab! and 50m deep piles.
If you include depth below grd of piles reach (70m) and planned 818m pinnacle height, thus total = 888m! (2912ft).


http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8567/burjdubaielevationbestpn5.jpg

^yes its very misleading. lots of people are gonna think its topped out. but little do they realize its just the concrete section. still a substantal part of the tower to go being another 200m high!

here is an amended diagram showing the 3 levels BELOW GRD which = 15.75m. then the 3.7m think slab! and 50m deep piles.
If you include depth below grd of piles reach (70m) and planned 818m pinnacle height, thus total = 888m! (2912ft).
Ok, nice! Hope is alive, hehe.

Ok, this question may already have been answeared, but how far will the elevators go?

Everytime I look the thead, I look Burj Dubai complex better.



Que bueno verte por estos rumbos Waldo.

Cool...

And that foo.... f d h o o h...:lol:

^you can see on diagram. lev162 or 624m. this is why its called highest floor. above that its stairs baby.


close up of steel section
i hope this clears things up for most. The drawing is most accurate going off actual latest plans.
I might start updating this drawing as well.I think we area all familiar with bottom 600m
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9245/burjdubaielevationbestsug4.jpg

Great detail. Im thinking about who´s the lucky guy that will have such a big honour of appreciating panorama from tier 27...

yeah, just think that balconie is 326m above lev124 observation deck. or a whole Eiffel tower.

yeah, just think that balconie is 326m above lev124 observation deck. or a whole Eiffel tower.
Unbelievable! :nuts:

Btw, thanks for the close up diagram!

so currently if you include the cranes on top, it is the tallest man made structure on earth :D

^^ yeup, but it wouldnt be the tallest ever in man kind history just yet

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4563/imresolt16at2yy6.jpg


Supports for the exterior steel crane?

(If not these, how/where do they intend to brace it?)

Supports for the exterior steel crane?

(If not these, how/where do they intend to brace it?)

No, I don't think so. I think those have something to do with the mechanical floors, and pretty soon the wing will cover that area up. No idea where they will actually mount the crane for assembling the steel section.

excellent Detail, thanks Culwulla.

CULWULLA: did u not see the diagram i edited and approved a few pages ago..... i need to send u the full sized version so u can work from that.

No, I don't think so. I think those have something to do with the mechanical floors, and pretty soon the wing will cover that area up. No idea where they will actually mount the crane for assembling the steel section.

These supports have nothing to do with Mechanical floors. They are to brace the crane (Path) which is carring the ALIMAK lift to shift materials and so on from floor to another.

When the concrete work starts at this area, this lift will be removed and installed somewhere else and so on.......

i dont think they r going to be removed =S ... im pretty sure they are for bracing/fixing the wing to the core. thats what people have said before.

^^ You two are talking about two different things.

CULWULLA: did u not see the diagram i edited and approved a few pages ago..... i need to send u the full sized version so u can work from that.

And why the diagram with your stamp of approval would be more correct that the one of Culwulla?

Crap announcement :D


:Very sensitive thread:

Lol. if you looked at it you would see that i've improved it and have been inproving and helping Culwulla perfect it for a good few months now.

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I get 403 & 404 errors on these links :(

Supports for the exterior steel crane?

(If not these, how/where do they intend to brace it?)

Those braces are for the wing bracing. There are last mechanical floors, which are all braced with that giant steel trusses. Check some old pics of lower mech floors construction. New crane will be mounted at the very top of he concrete, like on the Culwullas diagram.

What use have those blue boxes which are sticking out?

I get 403 & 404 errors on these links :(

If you copy and paste them in a new window they will show up.

^^ yeup, but it wouldnt be the tallest ever in man kind history just yet

I wonder how long will it stay that way seriously



Give it 5 years before another taller giant started its construction?

What use have those blue boxes which are sticking out?


Skips for waste materials.

As far as being the tallest. There are a few taller ones in the works,but not official or in the near future,The Al Burj looks cool,but ya never know.

I wonder how long will it stay that way seriously



Give it 5 years before another taller giant started its construction?

We all are making big mistakes with the discussion for the next WTB.Until the BD it was only building a few meters taller.but now it is at one go building the tallest tower and the tallest structure built ever.i thing history rising fits perfect.and history wont rise for along time again IMO.we can witness something really unique and th other 1000m+ towers are nothing morethan hot air i meanhow long there is the al burj discussion it was deplaced than they change narly monthlythe height etc....... i thing BD will hold the title extremly long time.and nooenknows if this isnt the tower which will exceed the 1000m mark i mean for proportional reasons they can add some floors on each wing and they have a better propotion.

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you are sayinh ND can go taller in future? nah i doubt so.



The next WTB wont be long, the world is progressing at a exponential rate my friend. :)

24/October/2007


Burj Dubai

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you are sayinh ND can go taller in future? nah i doubt so.



The next WTB wont be long, the world is progressing at a exponential rate my friend. :)


Of course there will surely come the next WTB but i thing not so fast.And when it will be in the UAE i think!

Of course there will surely come the next WTB but i thing not so fast.And when it will be in the UAE i think!

No no no...CHICAGO!

forget it :lol:

O/T, but I think the next WTB will be in Russia.

I thought I read that the trump building in chicago is using the best concrete pump in the world. and it was pumping concrete higher then has ever been attempted.

maybe I read just in the US? what kind of pump is used here?

If you copy and paste them in a new window they will show up.

Yea, about a second after I sent that reply I ran wget and got them.. wasnt thinking.

Wonderful update, Imre, thanks :)

MIRAGE !!!!

I think they will start the cladding above the 3rd mechanical floors. The concrete is completed.

I thought I read that the trump building in chicago is using the best concrete pump in the world. and it was pumping concrete higher then has ever been attempted.

maybe I read just in the US? what kind of pump is used here?

Burj Dubai does not use a single pump to get the concrete all the way to the top. The first pump is at ground level......which takes the concrete to about half the way up the tower....then a second pump sends it all the way to the top. So its a series of pumps, not a single one like in Trump Tower Chicago.

so, is the concrete structure topped out now? its october the 24th!

Regarding the www.burjdubai.com concrete section is completed, Burj Dubai is standing 585.7 meters high with 156 floors. Celebrate guys!!! :cheers::banana::carrot::cheers:

i hope they'll go over to the steel-construction next week

Will the steel section go up faster?...also, has the spire already been constructed somewhere or is that a secret aswell?

1. not sure. normally steel is growing faster than concrete. but at over 580m over the ground, i'm not so sure. and don't forget the concrete-section has grown in a 3 days cycle!
2. no, the spire has not been constructed yet ^^. it will be build in the steel-section on the top of the BD and then lifted up to the top

I'm kind of disappointed that they're following the plans we've seen. I was hoping the concrete would keep rising, surprising us all.

i thing BD will hold the title extremly long time.and nooenknows if this isnt the tower which will exceed the 1000m mark i mean for proportional reasons they can add some floors on each wing and they have a better propotion.

According to a very reliable source, the Al Burj project is very much alive, and will be taller than this tower.

According to a very reliable source, the Al Burj project is very much alive, and will be taller than this tower.

Seems like Al Burj would most likely be made in competition to BD, I mean seriously, is there a requirement for another supertall in Dubai?

Maybe I'm wrong?

2. no, the spire has not been constructed yet ^^. it will be build in the steel-section on the top of the BD and then lifted up to the top

i dunno where i heard this but i did hear they were gonna drop down the spire from the top sumhow o.O but that sounds abit dodgy lol.. so i suspect what u say is more true.

This isnt a question of do we need this or not it is only to atract people to come to Dubai and the public showing of power.It isnt so only there its so everywhere.I mean why are they building at ground zero that tall towers?I dont believe downtown NYC needs that much office space.We will se if all this gigantomany of present time will end like in the past as the empire state building was built and was than ironicaly called empty state building.I wont critisize what they are actually building but show reasons for that.I also like tall building because of that i am at SSC.

the pinnacle will be built inside spire structure and jacked up into place.
It will be jacked up from tier19 level or 643m height or 3 levels above 162nd floor.

this may give you better idea
The pinnacle starts about where blue crane cabin is located)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2087/1735333908_ec7aa16f20_o.jpg

the pinnacles eventual base will be located at tier20B/676m
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9245/burjdubaielevationbestsug4.jpg

Excellent!

Culwulla,
By any chance would you have a detail drawing showing just how the interior ladder on the pinnacle works for airline beacon maintenance?

top of pinnacle plan
as you can see the top of pinnacle is only 1.2m/4ft diametre with small 750mm hatch.
Interesting how there is a 1.5m/5ft ring around the top which is 800mm high.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4262/topofspirexp8.jpg

tier27-30/ elevation

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1087/tier27elvationav8.jpg

Hi all.

Nice screenshots of those blueprints - I wonder who took them ... :banana:
I have lots more of those screenshots that I made of the blueprints too. :lol:

Picasa - 07 09 24

http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/33285/2003665384604398212_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003665384604398212)

Hey all. Here is a few of the over 70 beauty shots from Brian Mcmorrow over at pbase. All from 07 10 19 - I encourage everyone to go check them all out !

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/30135/2003632118619188918_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003632118619188918)http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/33455/2003617227396733717_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003617227396733717)

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/33142/2003651193392611006_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003651193392611006)

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/33090/2003669885177334371_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003669885177334371)

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/33455/2003600331425583366_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003600331425583366)

Blog - 07 10 23

http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/31277/2003614249774952117_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003614249774952117)

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Another great day for the collection - 150 shots. 9130 and counting of this magnificent structure - WooHoo ! :nuts:

Enjoy. :cheers:

I'm a bit confused about the shape of the tower where those 4 "windows" are. Will there be winglets attached there?

Hi Metalli.

Look at the closeup of the top in the post right above yours. Some winglets already done.

Here is the shape of tier 15. The print is a composite showing the terraces for the first levels of tier16, 17, and 18. You can see the shape of the core - the long 3 sides are the sides with the 4 "windows".

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/33406/2004062385697419768_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004062385697419768)

Here is the actual first level of tier 17 and 18 to clear things up.

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/32146/2000411378906550109_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000411378906550109)

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:cheers:

sorry fury, should have credited you. i forgot who originally posted them.
such great floor plates.

Hey Cul.

No apology needed.

I gotta say your diagram is looking right on dude. :applause: :applause:

:cheers:

thanx fury

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

Where do you all get these diagrams and your information from?

Do some of the people on this site work for samsung maybe?

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

People from Dubai especially Imre how is it to stand in front of a tower with this scale already UC?I mean it must shock someone.Last year i stood in front of the Berlin TV mast and this was already breathtaking.

People from Dubai especially Imre how is it to stand in front of a tower with this scale already UC?I mean it must shock someone.Last year i stood in front of the Berlin TV mast and this was already breathtaking.

If you see it rising everyday you get used to it. :D

I will come to Dubai when this "baby" is open for public or even the openning ceremony.I am sure i will be shocked.

If you see it rising everyday you get used to it. :D


for me is the same , if you see every day nothing special:)

What floor will the observation deck be on?

124 floor at a height of 442m.

btw when the tower opens some of us will be surely there.Than we can make a SSC convention there.

What do you think.I will be 100% there.When will it open June 2009 right?

Yes we already know so don't bother posting it

The concrete part is TO yes but concrete work is first finished when also every wing is finished.

so now will the steel section start.

only 42,3m and it will surpass the KLVY mast.This should happen this year i think.

Great update dude. that is splendid

The concrete part is TO yes but concrete work is first finished when also every wing is finished.

so now will the steel section start.

only 42,3m and it will surpass the KLVY mast.This should happen this year i think.

Add the arm of the cran(s) on top of the tower and it has already happen.

Imre, could you take picture from this place please?it's wonderful angle. thx very much
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1802/burjdubai0516ce6.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=burjdubai0516ce6.jpg)

This isnt a question of do we need this or not it is only to atract people to come to Dubai and the public showing of power.It isnt so only there its so everywhere.I mean why are they building at ground zero that tall towers?I dont believe downtown NYC needs that much office space.We will se if all this gigantomany of present time will end like in the past as the empire state building was built and was than ironicaly called empty state building.I wont critisize what they are actually building but show reasons for that.I also like tall building because of that i am at SSC.

NYC will have no problem whatsoever filling the WTC complex.

Will it more faster the steel floors' construction than the concrete floors' construction??

^^ Yes steel work goes much faster than concrete. But remember that they'll still need to lift all the materials 580 meters and there's only one crane.

^^ Top steel structures are much slower to be build.

^^ Yes steel work goes much faster than concrete. But remember that they'll still need to lift all the materials 580 meters and there's only one crane.

Tag, Im sure that the steel structure will be built at ground level in modular form, and lifted bit by bit, so steel erection should be very fast.

Im surprsided that to date there are no signs of any steel fabrication near the base of the Burj?????

remember they can pout a whole level in one night with concrete, but with steel the have to hoist it up peice by peice and it may take longer. anywho, speculation aside, it will make a good change to see how this blends into the concrete and to see it get built =)

What is the highest floor to be occupied for residential use?

100 i think.

I thought the residential floors went all the way up to right below the observation deck at level 124, with offices above the observation deck. Correct me if I'm wrong...

^^ Correct.

The 123rd will be the last residential floor, while the 155th will be the last commercial and at the same time the overall last occupied one.

so this means that the highest occupied floor will be at 585 meters?? And the world's highest occupied floor will be in the Chicago Spire?( at 609 meters)? Im I wrong?

^^ it's 701m, from the 818m plans. at 609 meters that will be the tip of the building so that wont be the highest occupied floor.

The thing with the mighty Burj Dubai is there are many levels to reach.
#the highest official occupied floor in BD will be lev155mezz or 583m.
but there are a few levels above all the way to lev162 /624m which will be occupied by communication technicians.
then you will have plant maintenace guys which can access the next 11 floors to reach roof no4 @ tier22 or 701m high!
above this are 20 more platform levels which are reached by ladder, the highest of all these is the tier 27 or 768m high. This balcony area is only 1mx2m.("heavens gate")
then above this is the pinnacle which has internal ladder all the way to 818m.
I think highest floor or roof of Chicagos SPIRE is approx 600m.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9245/burjdubaielevationbestsug4.jpg

oh, thank you..

From what I understand the highest occupied floor on the Chicago Spire will be at 568m or 1865 ft. Above that it will be mechanical and elevator machine rooms.

On the Burj Dubai, there is a discrepancy as to how high the non residential, non office occupied floors will be. Some say 625m for communictions and others say 701m. I do believe the highest elevator run may reach 701m on BD but I could be mistaken so someone with greater knowledge on this may want to jump in and give some definitive insight.

For certain, the highest occupied floor on BD will be at least 15m higher than the tip of Chicago Spire. The CS however will have the longest UNINTERUPTED elevator run right up to 1865 ft. I'm not sure if that 568m marker will be the top residential floor or a mechanical service floor.

Just on a side issue here, based on Culwulla's schematic of BD's tiers, I have BD's total height WITHOUT spire to 768m or 2519 ft. I don't really go by roof 1, roof 2, etc. The actual question here would be...."How tall does BD reach without spire or antenna (in this case spire)? Being consistent with every other building, it would be 768m...that is if they don't do a height modification on the steel section.

Lotta fun, lotta fun.
:)

how much sqft do u think there will be at 701m

I believe more square footage than the CN Tower Space Deck at 447m which I have been on several times.

beyond1000- Burj Dubais pinnacle is unusual in the way that it isnt tacked on the roof like most but it starts way below the roof at tier20B or 676m level. which makes its total length of 142m. As it gets built it gets jacked up or telescoped to 50m above highest emclosed part of BD (tier27).So its hard to say the spire is 50m high.
In reality ,the section above lev162 is called "spire" , so if you wanted to take off the spire/pinnacle or architectural feature from the BD, its height would be 624m.

true, but if u were to take out the actaul spire. the steel section which is the maine part. would still be there. and that height which is 768m would be the actaul tip of the maine structure. not 624

Hmmm... Telescopic spire... Maybe there going to give it a shower head like the Rose? :nuts:

http://i13.tinypic.com/6aimv48.jpg

so this means that the highest occupied floor will be at 585 meters?? And the world's highest occupied floor will be in the Chicago Spire?( at 609 meters)? Im I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong.



I think highest floor or roof of Chicagos SPIRE is approx 600m.



roof, yes, but the highest occupied floor will be much lower.

From what I understand the highest occupied floor on the Chicago Spire will be at 568m or 1865 ft. Above that it will be mechanical and elevator machine rooms.



This number sounds right. They revealed a month or two ago where the highest penthouse would be. I don't remember the exact number but it very well could have been 568 meters -- I remember that it was around 30 or 40 meters below 600m. So Burj Dubai will definitely have the highest occupied floor of any building currently approved (Russia Tower has a bunch of unoccupied area at the top as well).



EDIT: I dug through the old threads and 568 is indeed the right number. See the following post:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=15581917&postcount=2370

thanks. russia towers highest floor is ob deck which is way down at approx 510m.

Thanks Culwulla that clears things up.

Thanks Hollie for the commentary. I wasn't dreaming when I read the article.

I think the final wait is when we see the spire go up. Firstly we need to see how high the steel section goes...that is if they did any modifications to what we know...and if the jack up an extra tall spire.

For everybody on BD land, what we think should be done is really irelevant. They will do what they will do without our consent and knowledge.

Exciting and of course....Lotta fun, lotta fun. :banana:

above this are 20 more platform levels which are reached by ladder, the highest of all these is the tier 27 or 768m high. This balcony area is only 1mx2m.("heavens gate")
then above this is the pinnacle which has internal ladder all the way to 818m.http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9245/burjdubaielevationbestsug4.jpg

This is just incredible to me. It seems like that high up with such a small diameter that even in just normal winds the tip of the spire would sway back and forth several meters constantly. Climbing up that ladder would be difficult...wouldn't you just get tossed around up in there?

I seem to remember a figure of 3m either side of centre in high winds... Can someone confirm that?

i reckon it will sway no more then 1 metre in normal weather. Take this over an 800m structure, you wouldnt notice it, even climbing the pinnacle.

Resticting to just inhabitable floor, i would say the highest occupied floor would be at L155 at 579.3m. Is that the floor where the office of Emaar chairman will be?

The roof of Chicago Spire is 609 meters not 600

^^ Of course I know that. The only reason I said "30 or 40 meters below 600" is because a lot of people were speculating that the top inhabited floor would be around 600 meters and so what I remembered was the distance below that. There have only been a small handful of die hard Chicago fans that I have heard even imagining that there would be a penthouse at the very top. (Well besides you in your previous post)

i reckon it will sway no more then 1 metre in normal weather. Take this over an 800m structure, you wouldnt notice it, even climbing the pinnacle.

Perhaps it was 3m total movement making it 1.5m either side of centre. Just to compare, our local tower the Sky Tower (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2969/skytowerfu9.jpg) (no affiliation to SSCs Sky Tower, that I know of ;)) sways 1m and its 328m tall. At +800m im sure it would have to be more than 1m. I feel somewhere between these two figures would be a reasonable assumption. Also consider im referring to the tip and not the sructure at habitable levels.

hey culwulla, I think you made it on the top page of Emirates Today Online !!!!

They quote that a document has resurfaced that shows the final height of BD. the link provided shows your diagram of BD !!!!

www.emiratestodayonline.com

OH GOSH WTF?



Cul you are famous now!


Man if Emaar has denied (Grep san said something about not so accurate in steel and concrete framework) and possibly Emaar had to alter the height again to prove himself that the plan is wrong. but if Emaar remain silent it could jolly well mean the plan is correct! And BD is just going to be 818m tall.

Osama bin Laden is famous too.

oh no. i think i might stay low for a while. lol

http://www.tvdance.com/aceventura/8a.gif

The thing with the mighty Burj Dubai is there are many levels to reach.
#the highest official occupied floor in BD will be lev155mezz or 583m.
but there are a few levels above all the way to lev162 /624m which will be occupied by communication technicians.
then you will have plant maintenace guys which can access the next 11 floors to reach roof no4 @ tier22 or 701m high!
above this are 20 more platform levels which are reached by ladder, the highest of all these is the tier 27 or 768m high. This balcony area is only 1mx2m.("heavens gate")
then above this is the pinnacle which has internal ladder all the way to 818m.
I think highest floor or roof of Chicagos SPIRE is approx 600m.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9245/burjdubaielevationbestsug4.jpg


So how many floors are there exactly? I count about 187 from your detail(including inhabitable) :). If I was the Emaar boss I would just put my office on the highest possible floor, regardless of space, think of the views! :nuts:

Culwulla OMG congratulations!! :)

I think I speak for everyone when I say this: Culwulla you are an absolute legend and these forums would not be half the forums they are now without you.

We love you Culwulla. :)

So how many floors are there exactly? I count about 187 from your detail(including inhabitable) :). If I was the Emaar boss I would just put my office on the highest possible floor, regardless of space, think of the views! :nuts:

Think also of possible senarios where a passager jet crush into ur building and screaming at the top of ur lung won't get anyone to save you.

oh no. i think i might stay low for a while. lol

http://www.tvdance.com/aceventura/8a.gif

Did they use your image without your permission?

if so, sue them!! :)

you make some $$$$$$

Think also of possible senarios where a passager jet crush into ur building and screaming at the top of ur lung won't get anyone to save you.

That's where a parachute comes in handy! :)

Getting ready for a light show under the Burj with spotlights in place in the lake.

Anybody know the occasion?

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/31326/2004343244810155771_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004343244810155771)

Friday 26th October.
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Getting ready for a light show under the Burj with spotlights in place in the lake.

Anybody know the occasion?

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/31326/2004343244810155771_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004343244810155771)

thx OTR, looks like they might be preping to celebrate the topping out of concrete work of the Burj.

Awesome the way the architect in the article says that diagram very well could be real :D

Culwulla :D

Awesome Culwulla/Richard!!!

congratulations for that feat!

Cheers :cheers:

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Do I read this correctly - there will be a 45 story steel building on top of a 155 story concrete building - goota luv SOM

Do I read this correctly - there will be a 45 story steel building on top of a 155 story building - goota luv SOM

I've also counted the "floors" on that diagram and came out with 204 total. However "real" floors will most likely stop in the 170-180 range (mechanical, communications, spire tech., etc.). Above that, according to Culwulla's diagrams, will just be access ladders and such. I am guessing actual windows will reach all the way up the tower to right below the pinnacle, but the purpose of these windows is just to keep the look of the building consistent, not because anyone will be looking out of them. It'd be nice if I'm wrong though...

Do I read this correctly - there will be a 45 story steel building on top of a 155 story concrete building - goota luv SOM
nope. There might be some spire maintenance levels but they won't be real floors, there won't be 45 of them either

Congratulations Culwulla, you're the man!

The diagram was taken from a blog not belonging to Cul, but it is indeed that of Culwulla.


http://i20.tinypic.com/161gke1.jpg

I don't have new aerials but some shots of the top, around 1 week old.

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lol ^^ stunning view

The guys in Emaar must be crapping themselves after the Culwulla Diagram appeared in a newspaper :D

Nice pics Dubaiflo!! Realy top notch quality :)

Cheers Cul, Dubaiflo and SSC!! :cheers2:

^^ The EMAAR guys have already seen the diagram and many more other things in this forum or SSP.

BTW Flo, those pics were already posted here and they are not 1 week rather One Month to 5 Weeks Old, check the progress on the Dubai metro track in the last pic.

From "Emirates Today":
"[Greg] Sang [...] refuted information in the illustration that this was the point chere the reinforced concrete structure would stop and where the remaining structural steel framing would start"

So the rumor that the steel section would start after L159 might be of actuality...

If this refutation is correct, they really would have managed to keep the real height unguessed until very late too. (maybe even at the cost of unneeded redesigns ;) )

I just wonder what elements of architecture do skyscraper have that it tends to jeopardize the very essence of design.

Dubai will always be the city of the future without Burj Dubai.

Since SA will compete then this project is a plain DUD!

Although, I miss Dubai life!

Hoping to see you again.

wOW, CONTRATULATION CUL..

From "Emirates Today":
"[Greg] Sang [...] refuted information in the illustration that this was the point chere the reinforced concrete structure would stop and where the remaining structural steel framing would start"

So the rumor that the steel section would start after L159 might be of actuality...

If this refutation is correct, they really would have managed to keep the real height unguessed until very late too. (maybe even at the cost of unneeded redesigns ;) )


Let's keep our fingers crossed. It would be boring if it turned out to be exactly how we knew it would be all along.

Let's keep our fingers crossed. It would be boring if it turned out to be exactly how we knew it would be all along.



Boring to us, but not those who didnt visited this SSC forum

However I am on your side as i also hope it goes higher without actually making it look weird. Basically what I am trying to say is a possible redesign.

Tag, Im sure that the steel structure will be built at ground level in modular form, and lifted bit by bit, so steel erection should be very fast.

Im surprsided that to date there are no signs of any steel fabrication near the base of the Burj?????I had a steel erection once....but then the tablets wore off! :|

Perhaps it was 3m total movement making it 1.5m either side of centre. Just to compare, our local tower the Sky Tower (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2969/skytowerfu9.jpg) (no affiliation to SSCs Sky Tower, that I know of ;)) sways 1m and its 328m tall. At +800m im sure it would have to be more than 1m. I feel somewhere between these two figures would be a reasonable assumption. Also consider im referring to the tip and not the sructure at habitable levels.That Sky Tower near you IS ME!!! Aren't I impressive? ;)

Getting ready for a light show under the Burj with spotlights in place in the lake.

Anybody know the occasion?

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/31326/2004343244810155771_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004343244810155771)
These are some of the permanent lighting that will be featured in the lake....I did post the itinerary for all the lighting before but yet again I was asked by Samsung to take it down!

Culwulla OMG congratulations!! :)

I think I speak for everyone when I say this: Culwulla you are an absolute legend and these forums would not be half the forums they are now without you.

We love you Culwulla. :)
Hands off, he's mine....I saw him first....get your own Culwulla.
If I were gay and he wasn't married....we'd be together forever! :hi:

**Crawls back under his rock....**

Hi all.

While I agree with the taller the better and I hope taller, I would be happy with even the old 705 meter height. Back near the start of construction many were of the opinion that the upper section was too thin and how the spire / pinnacle was too much. I have always called this thing a structure because it is going to be the tallest thing ever built. It is much more than a building so it doesn't matter if the top is as thin as a mast IMO. I think that it will be 818 but if not I will make version 4 of my analysis happily, even 705 would be by far the tallest structure ever. Only a few short years ago we may have been called dreamers if we talked about a structure taller than any guyed mast ever built. Great time to be a scraper lover.

Hey Sky - How you doin' bud.

:cheers:

We will see if Sang is bluffing on the top of concrete. I still do not feel 818m is the final height. Culwulla did a great job of course in finding information as did Skytower. They will determine the final height near the end of completion. Just to disprove 818m I think they will change that height. We now need to see the real top of concrete if it indeed changes and then, the steel section and how it matches up with Culwulla's detailed diagram with the tiers and heights etc. From there at the end we will see the final pinnacle height.

I feel that the actual numerical figure of the final height will be revealed only AFTER they complete the pinnacle to the tip top.

^ Already posted on the previous page.

Malec got to remove his post if he were to keep this thread neat and clean as promised.


Anyway if there are changes to the height and goes on taller, it will be a real surprise for us. Imagine hitting the 818m mark and yet still going taller?


I think that will leave us in a cliff hanging situation craving for more info regarding the height. :banana:

^^You do realize that when we get close to that stage, all of us are going to start to analyze pictures using pixels as guides to how tall the top sections of the spire/pinnacle are? Calculating the distortion caused by the angle of the pictures being used to judge the height? Its going to become VERY active and theres going to be a lot of arguing about it! :D

Appropriately borrowing the words from beyond 1000; Lotta fun, lotta fun!! :banana:

What do you all think.

How possible is it that this one exceed the 1000m mark?

^ 0.0001%

^^, much less. 0,0% ;).

:cheers:

vrsY2fMzmSA

Can´t wait till it is completed

The reason for the Spotlights and the lighting display is that Emaar are giving a presentation to Armani this evening. Not permenant spotlights as suggested placed in a lake of water....eh!

Look to the sky’s of Dubai as the Burj will be on display.

Must be time for a stage payment due to Emaar?

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the vid is great. nice work. :D

Hi all.

Here is the print showing the shape of tier 15. I have drawn the shape of the concrete core as it is now. The North side is the side with the 4 openings that has some winglets poured and where the crane is removed.

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:cheers:

The Burj Dubai looks amazing. I hope they celebratte the top of concrete construction.

Hi all.

Picasa - Geri - 07 09 22

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Webshots - Bishan 2010 - 07 10 26

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Enjoy. :cheers:

looks like there puting up a window frame like on the Mechs floors
http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/30470/2005155010610264894_rs.jpg

yeah... id say it again utter errant crap this tower... what is it with the human race and this babelier aspiration? this is a sheer waste, and it looks like an antenna... there have been more beautiful attempts at creating high buildings in our history.
RECONSIDER ITS AIMS... REDIRECT ITS GOALS AND EMBRACE SUSTAINABILITY and Dubai is way too hot(temperature wise) for this errant nonsense. Dont they have any architects there?:lol:

I'm curious why they're not cladding the two floors below second mechanical.

^^ i think it's becasue of the steel frame that's all around the tower is in the way. so it may take a while befor they move it then replace it with windows or those might be actual mech's themself

looks like there puting up a window frame like on the Mechs floors

Good eye, they are certainly doing something in the way of cladding those mechanical floors. It'll be interesting to see what they do there.

RECONSIDER ITS AIMS... REDIRECT ITS GOALS AND EMBRACE SUSTAINABILITY and Dubai is way too hot(temperature wise) for this errant nonsense. Dont they have any architects there?:lol:
Tell them to get a subway then. Towers are a good idea in hot weather.

^^ To get what?

yeah... id say it again utter errant crap this tower... what is it with the human race and this babelier aspiration? this is a sheer waste, and it looks like an antenna... there have been more beautiful attempts at creating high buildings in our history.
RECONSIDER ITS AIMS... REDIRECT ITS GOALS AND EMBRACE SUSTAINABILITY and Dubai is way too hot(temperature wise) for this errant nonsense. Dont they have any architects there?:lol:

You all sound the same, like a broken record spinning and spinning to a no-end. :lol:

Good eye, they are certainly doing something in the way of cladding those mechanical floors. It'll be interesting to see what they do there.

Thanks :okay:

great pic, i cant wait til the cladding grows up the sides of the building!

lol it doesnt fit into the pisture on the first pic.will be

yeah... id say it again utter errant crap this tower... what is it with the human race and this babelier aspiration? this is a sheer waste, and it looks like an antenna... there have been more beautiful attempts at creating high buildings in our history.
RECONSIDER ITS AIMS... REDIRECT ITS GOALS AND EMBRACE SUSTAINABILITY and Dubai is way too hot(temperature wise) for this errant nonsense. Dont they have any architects there?:lol:

Jamesd3G: I see your sole other contribution was to the Lagos, Nigeria thread and your quote "the issue of megacities is an oppurtunity for us, the inhabitants of these cities to rethink proffesionalism. the population of the third world city lagos".

Could I beg upon you to send your bank details to me immediatly as my Great Grandfather The Vanhenrick of Holland has left me a vast sum of money and I need to give you 90% of it.

Is it true that if you had a Burj in Lagos it would be stolen over night and used as Juju dolls?

great photos,

good job.

^ 0.0001%

Why not?

Why not?

That would be because it was not designed to exceed 1000 meters.