So let me get this straight because I'm new here. Only the building itself is relevant, not the people who are building it? Maybe in some of these photos we should photoshop out the construction workers in the shot so we can just pretend the Burj is building itself.

Either stay on topic, or take a hike.

Wow It very tall.and the top very thin.

they are wasting so much money on the top...you cant even use it as office space..is too thin!

just so it could be the tallest tower:ohno:
but is still looks awesome

I agree, I think the tower is unnecessarily slender. The same soar and impact could have been achieved with a slightly shorter spire.

They could also have built a tower 100m tall. It's not quite as impressive tho, is it?

I agree, I think the tower is unnecessarily slender. The same soar and impact could have been achieved with a slightly shorter spire.

I have a better idea, a flat roof on top of the 156th floor (the last concrete section floor) :banana:



:hahano:

Great shots of models Imre. Definitifley 819m version. Love the red one :)

Excelent shots Imre! :)

Cul:

Those Red models are windtunnel models to test the behaviour off the wind on those towers

They are packed full with electronics and other stuff. Realy expensive.

(ps fixed spl for cul)

Cheers man! :cheers:

I have a better idea, a flat roof on top of the 156th floor (the last concrete section floor) :banana:

:hahano:

Better idea yet: Build a laser-cannon alla Star Wars and build mirrors in space to strike anywhere in the world.

Then start destroying every building that is taller then BD............ :ohno:

Nope. The spire makes this building look good and it can house some stuff that is realy usefull to the building like an intergrated attena mast in the spire to give clean radio signals all the way to Teheran... :)

I have a better idea, a flat roof on top of the 156th floor (the last concrete section floor) :banana:
:hahano:


I agree. The top 200 meters of this tower does not look good in my opinion. It makes the building look flimsy and fragile, and because you know the top 200m is too narrow to be inhabited, it makes me think of "fake". I wish they had stopped at the 156th floor or kept the old 705m design.

BURJ DUBAI !!!

I like the slender look. Makes it look more like a mountain.

I agree. The top 200 meters of this tower does not look good in my opinion. It makes the building look flimsy and fragile, and because you know the top 200m is too narrow to be inhabited, it makes me think of "fake". I wish they had stopped at the 156th floor or kept the old 705m design.


Agree 100%

I think NOT having the spire would look funny. It would be like taking the spire off of the Chrysler Building. I'm not sure where all this new hate for the spire is coming from. :ohno:

The BD spire is organic: all the building rises as a spiral becoming slender and slender down to 0.

It's literary conceived to give the impression of fading in the sky...

The overall height depends on this concept. I think a 50/60m pinnacle is a good length, shorter would give a "bulky" aspect and higher would be like Ember-To-Ashes' render: a bit out of proportion and disgracious.

I agree. The top 200 meters of this tower does not look good in my opinion. It makes the building look flimsy and fragile, and because you know the top 200m is too narrow to be inhabited, it makes me think of "fake". I wish they had stopped at the 156th floor or kept the old 705m design.

stopping at 586m? that would look absolutely terrible i think....like a half tower

I have a better idea, a flat roof on top of the 156th floor (the last concrete section floor) :banana:



Stop being a douchebag :|

My point was that the girth could have 'dissolved' into nothing at tier, say, 24/739m and still achieve the same architectural purpose than having to go higher. At 818m, I think it will look slightly awkward.

I think NOT having the spire would look funny. It would be like taking the spire off of the Chrysler Building. I'm not sure where all this new hate for the spire is coming from. :ohno:

It's not some innate hate. My opinion is simply that while the Chrysler's spire is proportionately sized (any taller and it would look wierd), the BD's is also slightly taller than the height at which optimum beauty/impact would be achieved.

The BD spire is organic: all the building rises as a spiral becoming slender and slender down to 0.

It's literary conceived to give the impression of fading in the sky...

The overall height depends on this concept. I think a 50/60m pinnacle is a good length, shorter would give a "bulky" aspect and higher would be like Ember-To-Ashes' render: a bit out of proportion and disgracious.

Couldn't have said better myself, kudos.

by crimsujii, flickr:

http://i25.tinypic.com/20fzud2.jpg

Great pic. :bow:

Amazing ^^

ZZ-II that pic has been posted before

Beautiful picture !
1 Burj Dubai = 2 Eiffel Tower !!!

I know it's old but I thought it is worth for posting:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2010/2492203527_44fc672d56_b.jpg
Source: http://flickr.com/photos/isemantics/2492203527/
High-Res: http://flickr.com/photos/isemantics/2492203527/sizes/o/

Do you see that one sorta in the middle, just behind the beige-ish building with four castle-like towers on it? The cladding looks like a circuit board. Pretty cool.

Cul, you keep referring to the height as 819 meters when you know very well that the figure can be "true" only if the beacon light on top will be considered, which is not the case in real life, let alone in a model.

The structure is 818 meters.

Im fairly certain the beacon will be included in official height mainly because it is a large structure and intregal to the spire function.
I dont think you would not include it ,as it would be silly to say its 818m tall when its actually 819m.
I have some contacts in CTBUH and emporis and will ask them asap about this.
btw lightning rods with bross balls are included in heights IF attached to spires.
cheers

ZZ-II that pic has been posted before

i wasn't sure, shit :(,


but this not:

http://i30.tinypic.com/3501nrk.jpg

I know it's old but I thought it is worth for posting:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2010/2492203527_44fc672d56_b.jpg
Source: http://flickr.com/photos/isemantics/2492203527/
High-Res: http://flickr.com/photos/isemantics/2492203527/sizes/o/

Really sorry guys to repost this so shortly after it being posted in the first time, I have never posted img.s before

BUT THIS IS BY FAR THE COOLEST PIC EVER OF DUBAI (capslock)
Hyperdense and the king of the family rising above them all....
but most of all the number of cranes in the view is what really makes it so fab,
it makes you realize that this amazing pic will never be shot again, because allready tomorrow the scene has changed
I wish that they would have build all dubai around BB, including the marina and the waterfront and all the sick-confusing-spectacular stuff they still have up their sleeves

mama mia
go dubai, go BURJ dubai:righton::rock::drunk:

Im fairly certain the beacon will be included in official height mainly because it is a large structure and intregal to the spire function.
I dont think you would not include it ,as it would be silly to say its 818m tall when its actually 819m.
I have some contacts in CTBUH and emporis and will ask them asap about this.
btw lightning rods with bross balls are included in heights IF attached to spires.
cheers
weather beacons arent included in official heights . normally its just a large light but the structure atop BurjDdubai is a large structure attached to the spire component which means its a permanant addition., thus will be included in height.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/2493425994_e74a43c5ed_o.jpg

I know it's old but I thought it is worth for posting:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2010/2492203527_44fc672d56_b.jpg


I do not think it is old. Can any "Burj Dubai experts" tell us around when the image was taken?

I do not think it is old. Can any "Burj Dubai experts" tell us around when the image was taken?

I think only in the last couple of weeks if you consider where the top of cladding is

^^

Exif data says 08 05 05.

Cul I understand the handrail is permanent - 1.1 m. above the 818.0 m. floor of the top platform but all the plans say 818.0 and they show the handrail. We will have to wait and see when they do the official measurement. funny - I was just talking to Bikes through emails on this very subject.

It gets more interesting though. The 818.0 starts from "grade" or the floor of the ground Level. Thing is on one side the entrance is at ground level but looks to me that another entrance on a different side is at the Concourse Level 6.0 m. lower than the Ground Level.

So as I said they knew all this when making the plans and chose the 818.0 number. So they weren't counting the 4 levels below Ground Level down to the raft or the handrail at the top. Same as they weren't counting all the landings above level 160 Mezz. 3 in the floorcount.

All will be revealed when they do the official measurement.

:cheers:

Dubai is such a waste. There is so much space around the towers that are being built. I think that places that are actually low on space are the places skyscrapers should be built. They waste a lot of time and resources just for the hell of making enormous structures. I respect places like Hong Kong or NYC for their skyscrapers. Im just going to ignore Dubai.

Dubai is such a waste. There is so much space around the towers that are being built. I think that places that are actually low on space are the places skyscrapers should be built. They waste a lot of time and resources just for the hell of making enormous structures. I respect places like Hong Kong or NYC for their skyscrapers. Im just going to ignore Dubai.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/jessikins238/picard-facepalm.jpg

...sigh...

Dubai is such a waste. There is so much space around the towers that are being built. I think that places that are actually low on space are the places skyscrapers should be built. They waste a lot of time and resources just for the hell of making enormous structures. I respect places like Hong Kong or NYC for their skyscrapers. Im just going to ignore Dubai.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-bird-cat-cage.jpg

You should be smart enough to know that this is unacceptable.

^^lol

... It gets more interesting though. The 818.0 starts from "grade" or the floor of the ground Level. Thing is on one side the entrance is at ground level but looks to me that another entrance on a different side is at the Concourse Level 6.0 m. lower than the Ground Level.

So as I said they knew all this when making the plans and chose the 818.0 number. So they weren't counting the 4 levels below Ground Level down to the raft or the handrail at the top. Same as they weren't counting all the landings above level 160 Mezz. 3 in the floorcount.

All will be revealed when they do the official measurement.

:cheers:

Fury, the official design diagrams state very clearly that the height figures are calculated starting from 11.5 meters above the Dubai Municipality Datum, which I believe represent the ground level on the plot the BD is build upon.

Just some food for thought ;)

Dubai is such a waste. There is so much space around the towers that are being built. I think that places that are actually low on space are the places skyscrapers should be built. They waste a lot of time and resources just for the hell of making enormous structures. I respect places like Hong Kong or NYC for their skyscrapers. Im just going to ignore Dubai.

i disagree about that...
i very appreciate anything about Dubai construction , cause Dubai its very hard to have same condition n same level quality with another big city in the world... they build malls,towers2x, flyover,tunnel etc,even on sands condition like picture (when Dubai at 1991 its very different with now) i guess many peoples n society in Dubai now they have much better quality living after several project has finished..

I've recieved this email. I am not sure if it has been posted here or not! There are like a million posts so far!

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8054/image001sr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8054/image001sr3.cc2075cd7d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=440&i=image001sr3.jpg)

yes, it has been posted

yes, it has been posted

Several times :)

Several times :)

...and its likely to be posted several more times :D

Its an amazing pic...

New thread anyone? We have over 7000 posts here now.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5992/fullsteelzm1.jpg
is this massive steel? how thick is it? 15 cm?

I do not think it is old. Can any "Burj Dubai experts" tell us around when the image was taken?

I'm not an expert like Culwulla but I know it was taken on 5th of May, you can see that on the site at "Source".

New thread anyone? We have over 7000 posts here now.

And?

We can post 3000 more since there is a post limit off 10.000 :)

A year or something like that, it would have been a post limit off 500!!!!

Significant progress and time to upgrade to 15.000 posts!

Cheers :cheers:

Dubai is such a waste. There is so much space around the towers that are being built. I think that places that are actually low on space are the places skyscrapers should be built. They waste a lot of time and resources just for the hell of making enormous structures. I respect places like Hong Kong or NYC for their skyscrapers. Im just going to ignore Dubai.

Economically, yes, Dubai's tall buildings are wasteful. But there are other reasons to build tall besides land scarcity.

Some build tall buildings for their architectural and esthetic beauty. Some build tall buildings for the challenge. Others build tall buildings for vanity and ego. Still others build tall building for publicity. The investor gets to chose why.

Burj Dubai threads need to be 10.000+ posts because otherwise there would be like 482 single threads due to the unbelievable number of bullshit being posted here...

I've recieved this email. I am not sure if it has been posted here or not! There are like a million posts so far!

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8054/image001sr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8054/image001sr3.cc2075cd7d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=440&i=image001sr3.jpg)

Is that a security camera hanging down in the right hand side of this photo next to the Index? It would be great if Emaar fed the video into a web server so we could all watch. Burj Dubai TV!

Looks to me like a light bulb inside a fixture. But what do I know.

Burj Dubai threads need to be 10.000+ posts because otherwise there would be like 482 single threads due to the unbelievable number of bullshit being posted here...

:rofl:

Best post ever in this thread!!!

I do not think it is old. Can any "Burj Dubai experts" tell us around when the image was taken?

the pic is not really old, definitely taken in may

are we going to get 10,000 post before the tower is completed?:lol:
I feel like going to Dubai, just to see this tower, only this one...:lol:

That pic was awesome! :banana:
BTW, what is the height now?

Is that a security camera hanging down in the right hand side of this photo next to the Index? It would be great if Emaar fed the video into a web server so we could all watch. Burj Dubai TV!

Its a light bulb you bell end ! !

That pic was awesome! :banana:
BTW, what is the height now?

643.3m ;)

Dubai is such a waste. There is so much space around the towers that are being built. I think that places that are actually low on space are the places skyscrapers should be built. They waste a lot of time and resources just for the hell of making enormous structures. I respect places like Hong Kong or NYC for their skyscrapers. Im just going to ignore Dubai.
you should seriously get more info before u post. Dubai is not a waste, at least Dubai is building more landmark buildings then ny and hk together. thats snought about that, this thread is about the mighty burj dubai!!!!!!!

Dubai is such a waste. There is so much space around the towers that are being built. I think that places that are actually low on space are the places skyscrapers should be built. They waste a lot of time and resources just for the hell of making enormous structures. I respect places like Hong Kong or NYC for their skyscrapers. Im just going to ignore Dubai.

What a maroon!:bash:

I heard rumour Dubai planning to build a new tower over 3400 meters tall.

^^ Lol, in your dreams. Would be cool but just don't think so.

New York and Hong Kong both started out as flat cities. Skyscrapers aren't built just because of lack of horizontal room. They add prestige to the companies within it. They are symbols and they are art. Even my home town, a puny little nothing in North Carolina called Greensboro has moderately sized skyscrapers.

Its a light bulb you bell end ! !

You obviously haven´t been around many construction sites,
first of all, a construction site, especially a hyper-modern-marvel-site like like this would probably not use a 1940's light pole-ish light source in 600+- meters. second; this is obviously a 180° times 2 axes camera, witch makes sense thinking about the impracticality of having all the responsable managers having to reach 160+ floors up just to see current status of construction.

Then, talking about the impracticality of a sudden high rise city like dubai, where there is enough land, to have this sudden density of habitable areas makes me want to point out some facts.
I live in a city of only 180.000 people (our capital) and there the medium height of houses is like 3-4 floors, it is very wast and covers an area way bigger then 2 hong kong's, but we have problems, mainly traffic problems that should not exist in a city of that size, we have more then enough land space (witch is the reason for the form of the city today) and the efficiency of the whole city aria is really bad compared to number of inhabitants,
just imagine the waste of productivity and resources having a city diffused over a vast area when you could have it condensed in a tight space, we shouldn´t spend 30% of our time traveling between location!!!
new york could have expanded even further, but people realized it wasn't efficient at all.
In duabi, these areas become valuable from the start, therefore opening a shop in one of these building gives you allready a market of thousands of people within a short perimeter, makes sense, they simply create value from the start, that is what is driving this city, (will it work on the long run, we will just have to wait and see):cheers:

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5992/fullsteelzm1.jpg
is this massive steel? how thick is it? 15 cm?
Scaling from the plans those look to be 600x500mm I-beams so the thickness of the chords looks to be about 100mm, that is some serious steel. :cheers:
Fury could probably confirm though.

Fury, the official design diagrams state very clearly that the height figures are calculated starting from 11.5 meters above the Dubai Municipality Datum, which I believe represent the ground level on the plot the BD is build upon.

Just some food for thought ;)

Hi Altin.

You are correct - the floor of the ground level is 11.5 m. above the DMD.

Here is something I posted ages ago ...

The top of the raft is 3.75 m. below the DMD.

http://i28.tinypic.com/o8tl3q.jpg

The floor of Ground Level is 15.25 above the raft.

15.25 minus 3.75 = the 11.5 m. the floor of the Ground Level is above the
DMD.

http://i29.tinypic.com/2nqds4.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2iuce9v.jpg

My plan has always said that 0.00 is the floor of the Ground Level.

Just some more food for thought ...:)

As I was saying to Cul in my last post IMO the official height will be 818.0 measured from the floor of the Ground Level to the floor of the top platform. That is what the plans say.

http://i29.tinypic.com/2zqst39.jpg

I do see what Cul is saying that the handrail on top is permanent and may be included in the official height - so 819.1. Also I was just pointing out that they usually measure from "grade" and the entrance on one side of the structure opens to the Concourse Level 6 m. below the Ground level.

That being said I still think ( IMO ) the official height will be 818.0 m. but we will have to wait and see.

Hey B787 any plans I have aren't that detailed - but the I beam does look very robust.

:cheers:

flickr, may 14th by HopeHubris

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2496653212_a28a5b9431_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2496653212_b1cbe3d7f8_o.jpg

Burj Dubai threads need to be 10.000+ posts because otherwise there would be like 482 single threads due to the unbelievable number of bullshit being posted here...

haha ok, it shouldn't take long though!

flickr, may 14th by HopeHubris

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2496653212_a28a5b9431_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2496653212_b1cbe3d7f8_o.jpg
I love this picture.It seems like just the other day there was nothing behind these hotels and now suddenly there stands a futuristic city growing out of the desert.Amazing

Hi all,

I have a little question about windows on Burj Dubai, are they open-able? And if they are then how high is the last open-able window?

I understand that most of people will probaby mock me for that sort of question. My opinion is that there are no open-able windows on Burj Dubai - but I don't really know and that's why I'm asking.

What about other, let's say, ~300m buildings? How does the situation looks like there?

Thank you

BD windows are not openable when i remember right

omfg, it's amazing, i think it's best skyline in the world

BD windows are not openable when i remember right

have you been inside?

i saw imre's inside pics ^^


does this look like open-able windows??:

http://i29.tinypic.com/2mn57ao.jpg

From all over Dubai ...
Its hard NOT to Spot BD from any point in Dubai ..

http://i32.tinypic.com/zmxt1f.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/riw6et.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/fx89oh.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/mjqq29.jpg

I heard rumour Dubai planning to build a new tower over 3400 meters tall.

Actually the Al Burg is now rumoured to be 1400m...about 3/4 mile tall!

burj dubaj . burj dubaj its a monster :D

i saw imre's inside pics ^^


does this look like open-able windows??:

How will these holes be hided? :nuts:

Hi all,

I have a little question about windows on Burj Dubai, are they open-able?What about other, let's say, ~300m buildings? How does the situation looks like there?

Thank you

I don't think so. Those buildings have air-conditioning, don't need to have openable windows. It's also a matter of complexity of a cladding (I think).

thanks fury.
ive been working a for a few hours on this pinnacle drawing.
ive worked out the last real part of the bldg is tier 24 or 739m level.(fl198)
because after that you have to be inside the pinnacle to climb up internal ladder. then at tier 25, 26 and 27 you stand on internal grate and open small door which takes you out onto each small balcony.
below tier24, you have an internal room which has access by ladder. (you also have ladder access all the way through the pinnacle which starts way down at tier20B.)
For everyone to understand ive made the pinnacle see -though so you see ladder. also made spire tiers above tier24 see-through.
Thus actually pinnacle is visable from tier24 , or rises 80m above this tier.
i wonder which is last section to have see through windows?
Also ive shown scale by 1.8m workman.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/2496324637_3b084e8f84_b.jpg

larger
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/2496324637_d56ee13503_o.jpg

Climbing to the top under high wind ^^

Great diag btw :)

Thanks for the diagram!

What will be on floor 196 and 197? Only ladders? Or a viewpoint for the CEO only?
And what's with the man on the top and the man on tier 27? Are they waving or do they have some sort of ideology?:lol:

Well it looks like it's a good thing that the spire will have internal ladders. I'd probably pee in my pants if I had to climb an external ladder to climb to the top. It would be so cool to set up a romantic private dinner for two on level 98. :cheers2:

I heard rumour Dubai planning to build a new tower over 3400 meters tall.

I heard rumour that aliens are going to land on Earth next saturday. ;)

..

So it'll be possible to stand on the very top of the pinnacle? :nuts:

If you want to die . Ofcourse :)

I heard rumour that aliens are going to land on Earth next saturday. ;)

Yep, that's true, they are coming to build Al Burj!

So it'll be possible to stand on the very top of the pinnacle? :nuts:

possible yes, but not for public of course :lol:

For beacon maintenance only :D

How will these holes be hided? :nuts:

don't know how they'll do it but it should be no problem ^^

Wow, so basically this thing is as wide as my dinner table at the top.

possible yes, but not for public of course :lol:
No, of course it wont be public, but still. Some lucky bastard will one day stand there and feel like the king/queen of the world. :)

I've been following this thread for a while, but never posted anything over here.
This is the mail I got today, I am sorry if it's a repost.

This is taken from world's tallest building "Burj Dubai" @ 2,620 ft!!!

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3897/download1hi3.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=download1hi3.jpg)


Really amazing

Look at the edge (uppermost right corner) of the picture, you can almost see the turn of the earth
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8177/download2gw7.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=download2gw7.jpg)

The persons who are working on the upper most Girders can see the "ROTATION OF EARTH"

So terrifying…..

May be the images are old, but the points may be new (or old) lol

Look at the edge (uppermost right corner) of the picture, you can almost see the turn of the earth
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8177/download2gw7.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=download2gw7.jpg)

The persons who are working on the upper most Girders can see the "ROTATION OF EARTH"

So terrifying…..

May be the images are old, but the points may be new (or old) lol
Eh. They've used a fish eye lens... :)

the ROTATION of the earth???:hilarious
you are probably referring to the curvature of it

I can depict the rotation of the earth here in italy aswell, as lon as I can see the sun, but that is a slow progress and will damage your eyes:nuts:

:lol: If that was the curvature of the Earth, we would have a seriously small planet.

Hi Cul.

Awesome diagram.

I have been waiting for you to put a guy on the top platform. The top detail print in my last post I have posted many times and still some people are surprised there is access to the top platform. Your drawing shows this better than a print for the masses.

Let me repeat - Awesome diagram.

:cheers:

No, of course it wont be public, but still. Some lucky bastard will one day stand there and feel like the king/queen of the world. :)

when i'm in dubai i try to ask if it is possible for me to get to the top....ok, to 99% they won't let me :D

:lol: If that was the curvature of the Earth, we would have a seriously small planet.

It would, however, make BD look even taller! :)

That picture from the top of where it is is very surreal...not anywhere close to seeing the curvature of the earth however...there are mountains that are several times larger and you can't even see that. Nice try though. ;)

Rotation of the Earth? Um, we're on the Earth so you can't see it move. Also it's impossible to see the curvature of the Earth even from the tallest mountains. Even in a plane you can't see it. Probably from a spy plane - which usually fly much higher than passenger jets.

We should expect first 10th steel floor column on sunday

the ROTATION of the earth???:hilarious
you are probably referring to the curvature of it

I can depict the rotation of the earth here in italy aswell, as lon as I can see the sun, but that is a slow progress and will damage your eyes:nuts:

Mh, u possibly could do some interesting experiments somehow from up there to show the rotation of the earth!
We once did one in a physics lesson @ university:

We had a pendulum (with a heavy mass) on a ~7m wire. The professor started swinging it facing us students and the writing-board.
After about 10-15 minutes it is still swinging but u can notice that the angle of the oscillation had changed. That comes from the inertia of the mass and that the earth rotates during that time.
Earth rotation isn't that slow as most people think.
Try marking a shadow from an outside object in your room. After just 5 minutes the shadow has moved a few centimetres.

So when u take the height of the burj and build a looong pendulum, maybe in the lift shaft you could do some nice experiments, much more clearly then the short wire we had.

Rotation of the Earth? Um, we're on the Earth so you can't see it move. Also it's impossible to see the curvature of the Earth even from the tallest mountains. Even in a plane you can't see it. Probably from a spy plane - which usually fly much higher than passenger jets.

from the concorde jets you could see the curvature of the earth. they flew at like 60,000 ft
here's a pic from the window...
http://www.geocities.com/spacetransport/images/c9_window.jpg

impossible is nothing, last year I stared at the Comcast Center in Philly (I think it must have been minutes)...then a worker came and said: "for 20 bucks I´ll take you to the top"...I gave him ten and went up...

But I don`t know if I would make it to the BD-spire...today I walked after years again just some 140 m up (Ulmer Münster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulm_Minster)) and for me it was quite high, what would it be like on a nearly six-times higher platform.

http://www.johannes-hopf.de/temp_pic/Ulmer_Muenster20080516.jpg

okay enough, back to topic :runaway: ...but the shape looks a little bit similar to the http://www.saitenforum.de/board/images/smilies/anbet2.gif BD.

from the concorde jets you could see the curvature of the earth. they flew at like 60,000 ft
here's a pic from the window...
http://www.geocities.com/spacetransport/images/c9_window.jpg

You musnt go high up to see that. Just take a look on the ocean from the ground and you can see it's curved...

Again, you cannot notice the curvature itself from the surface. Only its effects - i.e. objects disappearing over the horizon on the ocean.

impossible is nothing, last year I stared at the Comcast Center in Philly (I think it must have been minutes)...then a worker came and said: "for 20 bucks I´ll take you to the top"...I gave him ten and went up...

But I don`t know if I would make it to the BD-spire...today I walked after years again just some 140 m up (Ulmer Münster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulm_Minster)) and for me it was quite high, what would it be like on a nearly six-times higher platform.

http://www.johannes-hopf.de/temp_pic/Ulmer_Muenster20080516.jpg

okay enough, back to topic :runaway: ...but the shape looks a little bit similar to the http://www.saitenforum.de/board/images/smilies/anbet2.gif BD.

Dear, Gothic architecture copied it's pointed arch from Islamic architecutre.

The pointed arch had its origins in ancient Assyrian architecture where it occurs in a number of structures as early as 720 BC. It passed into Sassanian-Persian architecture and from the conquest of Persia in 641 AD, became a standard feature of Islamic architecture.

The Norman conquest of Islamic Sicily in 1090, the Crusades which began in 1096 and the Islamic presence in Spain all brought about a knowledge of this significant structural device. It is probable also that decorative carved stone screens and window openings filled with pierced stone also influenced Gothic tracery. In Spain in particular individual decorative motifs occur which are common to both Islamic and Christian architectural mouldings and sculpture.

16/May/2008

Burj Dubai mega update

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2329/imresolt110ak0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8024/imresolt113zy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5919/imresolt122vu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2734/imresolt014km7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6020/imresolt067uw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4677/imresolt068sb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3443/imresolt061li5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

115 new pics from the Burj Dubai area , from Satwa and from Nad Al Sheeba( Burj Dubai, The Address, The Lofts, Boulevard Plaza, Dubai MAll Hotell, Double Decker Road, Burj Dubai Metro Station etc..)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157605095570168/

any reposts welcome:)

Excellent update! ^^

If I'm right, your update is the first to show progress on the 2nd level mech cladding :okay:!

This thing is so tall it's almost funny. Maybe it's because I'm a little drunk but I'm sober enough to post this. :lol:

Looking good though. This building is turning out perfectly.

16/May/2008Burj Dubai mega update

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4677/imresolt068sb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

115 new pics from the Burj Dubai area , from Satwa and from Nad Al Sheeba( Burj Dubai, The Address, The Lofts, Boulevard Plaza, Dubai MAll Hotell, Double Decker Road, Burj Dubai Metro Station etc..)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157605095570168/

any reposts welcome:)

How is that not falling?

- Andy

about the curvature of earth and that post of mine ......... I just copy pasted what I got in the mail so please dont make fun of me ROFL ...........

Great updates IMRE, thanks a lot .... can someone please tell, how the cranes would be constructed at such heights ? (Dont tell that 1 crane will bring the other up lol)
May be this is answered many times before, if u can please redirect me over there. Thanks

We should expect first 10th steel floor column on sunday

Thanks for that.

First piece of real and relevant information in the last few pages. So perhaps Sunday will be the day were it finally becomes the tallest man made structure ever. The legacy of the guywired mast will be put to pasture since they took over free standing buildings in the 1950s.

@Metsfan

How the nr 15 object is not falling? It has beams attached to it, that point inside the building. The beams are sitting on a concrete construction and have a pressurized oil lever against the ceiling. This keeps the nr 15 object from falling down.

Maybe someone has a picture that explains it immediatly.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2498708782_79677c5fcb_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2498709168_f46b4a8517_o.jpg

ooooo my goood !

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2044/2497884599_cb1771a1f7_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2346/2498713494_2ff7b4ef59_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2498715942_a63da35b25_o.jpg

Thanks for that.

First piece of real and relevant information in the last few pages. So perhaps Sunday will be the day were it finally becomes the tallest man made structure ever. The legacy of the guywired mast will be put to pasture since they took over free standing buildings in the 1950s.

Are you sure?

In my opinion there are a few more informative posts in this thread when you look back a little bit, just like the diagram of the spire from CULWULLA which is simply awesome! And don't forget all the pics from Imre, but good information anyway.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2497890075_fe7ecc8b13_o.jpg

i wonder when they suld start cleaning the windows
end i wonder 1 mour thing that`s is when they have clost up the bulding whit all the windows then they start the ac end geting down the tempeture incide the bulding i wonder how long that will take ?
it took a bout 5 month for burj al arab

Don't expect new vertical beams today. If you see one of the Imre's pic, a horizontal beam is still missing from the outer perimeter of the 8th level. Who knows how many others might be missing from the inner part of the structure.

And gee ... stop talking about the curvature of the Earth, it's just a fisheye lens used to take the picture, that creates that visual effect.

Don't expect new vertical beams today.

And gee ... stop talking about the curvature of the Earth, it's just a fisheye lens used to take the picture, that creates that visual effect.

Maybe I'm being a dumb structural engineer, but isn't a 'vertical beam' normally called a 'column'? :lol:

I agree with your second comment - people on this thread seem to think that as soon as you go higher than 600m, the laws of physics magically change! I would simply say that whatever effects you might get at 400m, will be about 50% greater at 600m. Of course this is being simplistic for some phenomena, such as wind loading etc. But I'm sure you get my point.

Yes it's a very tall building and a nice peice of engineering, but let's keep the discussion sensible. Big mountains are orders of magnitude taller than any skyscraper and even then we don't see the effects that many people on this site are hypothesising about. :cheers:

I wonder how much you'd have to pay to be allowed to climb up the service ladder of the pinnacle?

Also, what is the HVAC strategy for the building? Is it just AHUs at every 30 floors? Or water risers to each floor supplying fan coil units/ACs? Any specs on the fans used? E.g. axial, tangential flow, centrifugal etc??

Well if you start cleaning the windows now you should be done by the time its finished :)

AIRCONDITIONING in burj dubai and Vanhenriks question:

Hello vanhenrik!

Always fun to read your post! You're a great contributer to this forum!
You just give it that little bit extra. I think a lot of users can appreciate it.

Where did you get the information that it took the airconditioning of the Burj Al Arab 5 months to cool the building down?

I doesn't even suprise me that it took that long, because the heat capacity of stone/concrete is sooooo big. Think of a big church in Europe, the temperature inside stays constant pretty much all year long, even if you just let the big doors open constantly!! Same goes for the temperature inside a bunker with walls of 0.5 meter thickness.

With normal airconditioning power, it would definetely take a very long time to lower the temperature of the concrete (all the way to the inside).
And Burj Dubai is far more concrete, then Al arab!!!!!!!!!!
So with all these concrete walls, the temperature inside the core is like: really tough to change. Maybe once they cooled the core down, they can shut the airconditioning off for a year! :)

i wonder when they suld start cleaning the windows
end i wonder 1 mour thing that`s is when they have clost up the bulding whit all the windows then they start the ac end geting down the tempeture incide the bulding i wonder how long that will take ?
it took a bout 5 month for burj al arab

It isn't the same situation; Burj al Arab have 200 meters high atrium, and Burj Dubai floors are 3-6 meters high.

BTW for skyscraperpage burj dubai, they lowered height from 819m to 807.7m. Well I guess its irrelevant

It isn't the same situation; Burj al Arab have 200 meters high atrium, and Burj Dubai floors are 3-6 meters high.

So therefore, it will take even longer to cool the BD with a greater surface area of thermal mass to contend with. A 200m atrium would only assist the cooling due to the stack effect of warm air rising therefore exhasting hot air fairly qucikly out the building.

BTW for skyscraperpage burj dubai, they lowered height from 819m to 807.7m. Well I guess its irrelevant

what are you talking about??

Found similar photos from similar angle.

From november 2007:

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/11November/burj_dubai-skyscraper1122.jpg

From today:

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8024/imresolt113zy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

it looks very nice!!!!1^^^^^^^^^^^^

Burj dubai looks really henge now. Sometimes find it cool that concrete in the bottom floors hasn't still cracked

It depends on weight and not on height ;)

Of course, but lower buildings may weigh more than BD. So the question is about any massive building and not only tall ones, depending on the ratio height/footprint size, and other considerations like construction material .

spectaculastic Imre:banana:

I just found out that there are more workers working on burj dubai then there are in the whole building industry in my country (roughly 6000), and the finished burj will be more then 10 times higher then my countries highest building that opened just recently (78meters here: http://www.veisluturninn.is/FileLib/Myndir/sidur/turn.jpg) for us that is a skyscraper
haha that is ridiculous

I will probably faint when I 'll see the mighty burj for real

it sems this is going to be an realety !

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1645/5445hk4.jpg


truley amazing !

http://www.alltomvetenskap.se/index.aspx?article=2204

anything else to say? i still see open desert next to a 2700 ft tower. honestly its just so boring there they have to spend oil $ on making extreme architechtural wonders. I do however love its Cool design. I was merely questioning its location?!?!?

It isn't the same situation; Burj al Arab have 200 meters high atrium, and Burj Dubai floors are 3-6 meters high.

yes i now but it has to be a lot of moist when they are coling the tower ?

wow..

what if theres an earthquake

AIRCONDITIONING in burj dubai and Vanhenriks question:


With normal airconditioning power, it would definetely take a very long time to lower the temperature of the concrete (all the way to the inside).
And Burj Dubai is far more concrete, then Al arab!!!!!!!!!!
So with all these concrete walls, the temperature inside the core is like: really tough to change. Maybe once they cooled the core down, they can shut the airconditioning off for a year! :)

I´ll try a short calculation:
Floor-area: 334000 m²
thickness: 40 cm (I think it is thinner, but there are also vertical columns)

Volume: 133600 m³
Density: 2400 kg/m³ (I´ll take just concrete no steel)
Heat-capacity: 1 kJ/(kg*K)

to cool it from 45 to 25 °C you need 1.781.333 kWh cooling energy, sounds a lot.
I have in mind, that there is a total cooling capacity of 45 MW available.
I assume that just 2,5 percent (1,125 MW) of this capacity are effectively used to cool down the building (considering the heat transfer coefficent air->concrete) then it would take 1583 h or 65 days -> 3 month.

I think my calculation is very conservative. Any comments? Did I forget something important? What about my 2,5% of 45MW assumption (just a feeling)? Am I right that BD is just cooled by air? no activated floors or things like that?

I´ll try a short calculation:
Floor-area: 334000 m²
thickness: 40 cm (I think it is thinner, but there are also vertical columns)

Volume: 133600 m³
Density: 2400 kg/m³ (I´ll take just concrete no steel)
Heat-capacity: 1 kJ/(kg*K)

to cool it from 45 to 25 °C you need 1.781.333 kWh cooling energy, sounds a lot.
I have in mind, that there is a total cooling capacity of 45 MW available.
I assume that just 2,5 percent (1,125 MW) of this capacity are effectively used to cool down the building (considering the heat transfer coefficent air->concrete) then it would take 1583 h or 65 days -> 3 month.

I think my calculation is very conservative. Any comments? Did I forget something important? What about my 2,5% of 45MW assumption (just a feeling)? Am I right that BD is just cooled by air? no activated floors or things like that?

Hey Johannes!

Your calculation is EXACTLY the one I had in mind when i wrote that it would take several months to cool the whole burj dubai down (from 45 to 25 degrees celcuis) because of the large heat capacity of concrete and the large amount of concrete! There is even more concrete in the core walls!

You made very good assumptions!

But let's not get too much into physics here :)
I hope vanhenriks question is answered now!

But it was a really nice question about the burj Dubai in my opinion. 'Cause no one probably realised that!

what if theres an earthquake

Dubai is close to an active zone, but the area itself has never been hit by an earthquake so far. Look at this map:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Quake_epicenters_1963-98.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Quake_epicenters_1963-98.png

and the BD could probably withstand a quite heavy earthquake because of its size

The Burj Dubai is designed to easily withstand an earthquake significantly larger than the local tectonic plates could possibly produce.

what if aliens attack?

Then either they'll have an awesome building to blow up first, or Jeff Goldblum will save the day using an apple laptop.

What will happen if there's a 900m tidal wave?

i have a serius question here

wat will happen whit the burj dubai if an boing 747 wil crash in to the bulding at level 50 - 70 fuley fuled like that in wtc ?

i hef a serius qustion there

wat will hapen if a byg fliyng mushrom fals on BD?

my God, Dubai's economy must be really really really strong when they build lot of new superhigh towers at once

i have a serius question here

wat will happen whit the burj dubai if an boing 747 wil crash in to the bulding at level 50 - 70 fuley fuled like that in wtc ?

I'm not buying the spelling mistakes of Vanhenrik anymore.
I always had my doubts,

but the spelling mistakes in this post clearly shows that he's messing around.
Why spell a name, like boeing, also wrong?

Why would someone still misspell a simple word like "with", an 8 or 88 year old person with no english knowledge would spell that word correctly after all the hours behind a PC just reading skyscrapercity forums like vanhenrik.........

So, vanhenrik is a fake! a troll!

What will happen if some people get a BAN? You know who you are, stop ruining this thread whit tidal wawes and aliens and stay on topic!

what if aliens attack?

OKcD_aLZ9EI

1:40 ;)

I love that movie!

what if aliens attack?

Then either they'll have an awesome building to blow up first, or Jeff Goldblum will save the day using an apple laptop.

What will happen if there's a 900m tidal wave?

i hef a serius qustion there

wat will hapen if a byg fliyng mushrom fals on BD?

OKcD_aLZ9EI

1:40 ;)

I love that movie!



You're all brigged for 3 days, for spamming this thread with irrelevant crap.

Anyone else want to join them?

Found similar photos from similar angle.

From november 2007:

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/11November/burj_dubai-skyscraper1122.jpg

From today:

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8024/imresolt113zy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

WOW! Its look FABULOUS!!! Can anyone please update its diagram to see how much left till top out?

^i posted this back on may5th
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2466259664_118b99602e_o.jpg
its still 643m but more steel is up. ill post update tommorrow

flickr, may 15th by Mr G1

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/2500558367_75b3b6804d_b.jpg



May 15th by MarcelDeller

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2501426476_7f14c8f5be_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2501426476_f0e1b81980_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2501427120_f9a8a9d8d2_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2501427120_46bff21a63_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2178/2501427776_09803d349c_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2178/2501427776_c2507399e2_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2008/2500607567_4299c5e358_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2008/2500607567_668c0f164d_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2501428598_9b5cb27186_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2501428598_8c423aa4e0_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2501436696_8b20ec36f7_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2501436696_4f1abd253e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2212/2500599351_d2bc55405c_b.jpg

Full size: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2212/2500599351_fa3ff4008d_o.jpg



Other Dubai aerials by MarcelDeller: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9792649@N07/

^^ that lush green in the laguna is a nice contrast to the rather dreary surroundings IMO

Is the left part on SZR in this photo http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2501426476_7f14c8f5be_b.jpg going to be low like this or will they clear them away for skrapers???? does anyone know??

a very big project is planned for this area, there's a thread in the UAE section

This is actually a very good pic for the people who are not that familiar with the Burj Dubai area, you can see a lot of progress:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3130/flickr2501427776c250739na2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3130/flickr2501427776c250739na2.7f57045e46.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=528&i=flickr2501427776c250739na2.jpg)

Yellow: Boulevard is progressing, they planted some palms, leveled the road, etc., and the entry from Doha Road has been shifted, the elevated road can be finished this way
Green: They started excavation and construction of the underground parking garage beneath the boulevard
Light Blue: Some residential towers will be ready to rise soon!
Dark Blue: Once the Dubai Mall is finished we will see a lot of progress there, I assume. Right now the area is used for storage and logistics

There's definitely happening a lot! :lol:

Is the left part on SZR in this photo http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2501426476_7f14c8f5be_b.jpg going to be low like this or will they clear them away for skrapers???? does anyone know??

Yes there is a huge project planned for the whole area, the project is named Jumeirah Gardens, the thread for it is here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=550741

^^ that lush green in the laguna is a nice contrast to the rather dreary surroundings IMO

Agree it is also one of my favourite places in Dubai, cause it is the last remaining part of a big lagoons which was destroyed in the 1970's. The whole area, including the mangrove forest, is now protected as a wildlife sanctuary.

Yes there is a huge project planned for the whole area, the project is named Jumeirah Gardens, the thread for it is here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=550741

thanks alot, this is cool, I allready knew about that one, but what I was more thinking about the slots just next to SZR, will they continue their "curtain" of skyscrapers down the road or will it just be green?

don't know what exactly you mean but I know they will continue building skyscrapers southwest at the Business Bay/Burj Dubai side of the road towards Safa Park. As for the other side of the road I'm not sure, but I think they will construct more skyscrapers as well in the future, the contrast between Jumeirah gardens City and the skyline is gonna be amazing!

they need some green there! seriously its so sandy!

great.. :okay:

44p, why do you repost that here :bash:, that's totally off-topic...please delete it!!

You guys (cetain people) love to dirt threads with pointless offtopic subjects.:ohno:

it dosent matter....those towers are great!!

I love this pic. I spent like 5 minutes looking at all the things going on in it.

Making it my wallpaper for a while. :okay:



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2178/2501427776_09803d349c_b.jpg

:lol: If that was the curvature of the Earth, we would have a seriously small planet.

Spandex is correct it is the curvature of the Earth..

the cranes are over 715m!!!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2501427120_f9a8a9d8d2_b.jpg

I was expecting this to become the tallest structure ever built today?

Is the left part on SZR in this photo http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2501426476_7f14c8f5be_b.jpg going to be low like this or will they clear them away for skrapers???? does anyone know??

The Lam Tara Towers will go there. Those are just two of them, I have not heard of any others.

latest diagram

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2503678498_eba4b793cd_o.jpg

What about other, let's say, ~300m buildings? How does the situation looks like there?

The windows open in the John Hancock Center (http://chicagoarchitecture.info/Building/1006/John_Hancock_Center_(Chicago).php) (457 meters) if the owners pay the extra money for them, otherwise they have vents that open directly to the outside.

Many units also have screened-in balconies. There's a public one as part of the observatory on the 94th floor.

Hi all.

Picasa - 08 05 17:

Damo

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/142/0805176aerialfz3.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4913/0805174aerialed9.jpg

Timm - Thumbs as they are large

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5287/080517aerialwx6.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=080517aerialwx6.jpg) http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9923/0805172aerialav0.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0805172aerialav0.jpg) http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1262/0805173aerialcx6.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0805173aerialcx6.jpg)

Can't be long untill the first column of tier 19 - and the tallest manmade structure in history.

:cheers:

latest diagram

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2503678498_eba4b793cd_o.jpg

Only one more man-made thing to clear and this will surpass it with flying colors. :cheers: to CULWULLA




Also love the sunset pictures Fury!

Great diagram Culwulla and nice found Fury:cheers:

19/05/08
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2184/2504987794_5af26e3822_o.jpg
Source: http://flickr.com/photos/aga_rayhan_widi_agus/2504987794/

wow, thx fury....the close-up of the top is just awesome...but it seems we've again to wait until next saturday before the next floor will start :(

The windows open in the John Hancock Center (http://chicagoarchitecture.info/Building/1006/John_Hancock_Center_(Chicago).php) (457 meters) if the owners pay the extra money for them, otherwise they have vents that open directly to the outside.

Many units also have screened-in balconies. There's a public one as part of the observatory on the 94th floor.

Thank you :cheers:

It started ... :banana:

^ i knew it would just after i posted that diagram.bugger!.
650m here we come! and the last milestone for mighty burjD
after this its unchartered territory! into the unknown!
so when we get a pic ill repost diagram.

^^ What the next steel floor?

If so yiiipppeeaahhhh!

YUPPY!!!! :D :banana:

^^ What the next steel floor?

If so yiiipppeeaahhhh!

649.7m :banana:. Now official the Tallest Structure ever build :banana:

This building just blows me away. It's so tall it looks like something out of Star Wars.
I can't believe Dubai is going to build an even taller building. Dubai rocks :applause:

Oh man, exitingExiting:banana:
It is like our little girl finally became a woman, and a sexy one:naughty:

These photos Fury that you posted are friggin awesome, is this the morning sun? I just love how the mightyBurj starts to glow like a treasure, will be spectaculastic once completed and it´s cladding will absorb and reflect the light in a gorgeous manner

Go Burj, the mightiest of all time:righton:

^^ That's the sunset.

Wow! The ultimate skyscraper world record is being broken today!

:applause:

Congrats to everyone involved in building this wonderful tower and to all who have been looking forward to this special moment.

great :cheers:

Massive Burj Dubai Update by IT-A from May 17th, Flickr:

http://i26.tinypic.com/icpfv7.jpg

at least 40 more pics here:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Burj+Dubai&s=rec

( when anybody wants to post them, please :D!...i can't my internet is too slow )

Officially the Tallest Structure EVER. :D yes!

OMG its really a MONSTER!

IMO this is the first picture from which you can realise/see how tall it really is.

Picturerights belongs to IT-A from Flickr.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8925/2505311178a2dc3b7f09bqy3.jpg

Finally:) Now into the unknown territory! :cheers: to the greatest of them all :cheers:

Now the real slenderness should start to appear. It'll get much thinner very quickly indeed.

Can't wait until culwalla posts new diagram, only if he sees the new photo of course.

I just can`t imagine how tall this already is and how tall it will be in the future months. It must be sick to stand in front of this Super structure. :nuts:I have to include Dubai in my holidays destinations only because of this tower. Congrats to everybody who has anything to do with this.:cheers:

Awesome. Can we change the thread title to "World's Tallest Structure Ever Erected"??? :D

flickr, may 17th by IT-A: lot of close-ups ;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2367/2505403378_fd321c5fca_b.jpg

All the pics and large sizes:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ian-thompson/page2/

A lot of pics to repost...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2505390842_e1928d44c5_o.jpg

An ultra modern Casttle I wanted to preserve that word untill it completed but I can't hold back anymore , my mouth just drop open and words just came out when I see the latest picture of this building in it amazing silver cladding , It shines... OMG, IT really shines...

^^OMG its really a MONSTER!

IMO this is the first picture from which you can realise/see how tall it really is.

Picturerights belongs to IT-A from Flickr.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8925/2505311178a2dc3b7f09bqy3.jpg

The tallest structure in human history!!!

Today, some of you are proud to be an Emiratean, and we others are proud to be human beings. We archived that!

:cheers:

already one week old and a bit small but that shot is taken from Dubai Marina Resort:

http://i29.tinypic.com/n6x0sy.jpg

YES!!!

Congratulations Dubaians!! Congrats SSC!!!

Congratulations Human Kind!!! :D

Cheers for the ultimate off all towers! :cheers:

:cheers:nice:cheers:

Well done everyone, from the paleolithic til now. Special thanks to Mr. Newton, professor David Hilbert and whoever figured out how to melt steel.

:cheers

Warsaw mast beaten :banana:
Congrats everyone involved in this project:banana:
Long live SSC:banana:
Thank you, all contributors of pics:banana:
Glad to see this moment:banana:

From Al Safa Park


http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8996/bdfromalsafaao7.jpg

This is history people!! We made it! :cheers:

Congratulations Dubai!

Burj Dubai is soooooo beautiful :drool::drool::drool::drool:

all hail Burj Dubai
:bow:

Congrats Dubai!

Amazing worlds tallest tower. How tall it will be?

Amazing worlds tallest tower. How tall it will be?

:doh:



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shouldnt we allready have been introduced to another crane??

the thread title will give you a small indication. but obviously its still a secret. but i reckon in zone of 800m-850m. so far we are going with 819m.
DIAGRAM UPDATE
ive shown 2 beams reaching next section. we havent see pic yet but this is what has happened to all the other sections.
now we are up to lev170. 650m/2132feet.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2027/2506402255_9172320176_b.jpg

big vers
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2027/2506402255_e4c35dedb7_o.jpg

So as of May 19 what is the official height?

^^ *sigh*, read the post above yours. 650m

70 mts of this building are underground level :nuts:

The biggest ever...amazing :cheers:

70 mts of this building are underground level :nuts:
Since when are concrete piles considered levels?

The 3 underground levels will have a total height/depth of 15 meters, in other words nothing special.

Ive chatted to guys at emporis and shown diagrams of spire and most agree aircraft beacon structure WILL be included in official height. Also they are undecided on where to take height from.
There is apparently 3 entrances all dif levels.
1st @ 15.7m below, mall elevation,
2nd @ 8m below
and the one we have been going off.
so it could be 819m, or 827m or 835m.
SOM will give plans to emporis after completion so they can decide.

:banana:

Wow!! Congratulations to us all...I am so lucky to be one of the thousand people witness its growth!:cheers:

We shall change the thread title i think.
Currently Burj Dubai is taller than Warsaw Mast which was the tallest structure ever built. So the title shouldnt be "World's Tallest Structure" anymore. We should make it "World's Tallest Structure EVER".

Congrates DUBAI for having the greatest, tallest structure ever built in the world. i think this attached photo is the best way to admires those who dream it.........yes my friends ..it is possible....http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4163/att29043bb3.jpg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BH19J8ZF4Bk
in this video you can see how they will install the spire (starting at 5:35), between tier 21-22(?) they install spire lifting machine and first lower the spire, build it and then lift it up :)

Ive chatted to guys at emporis and shown diagrams of spire and most agree aircraft beacon structure WILL be included in official height. Also they are undecided on where to take height from.
There is apparently 3 entrances all dif levels.
1st @ 15.7m below, mall elevation,
2nd @ 8m below
and the one we have been going off.
so it could be 819m, or 827m or 835m.
SOM will give plans to emporis after completion so they can decide.

It should be whatever entrance is the lowest without being underground

just wondering, only 192 concrete piles, that doesnt sound much to me, but i suppose the ground they're building on is of a total different level in comparison to the dutch swampie earth below my feet. But still, for a surface as big as the base of this building,
is the ground of the same quality as if the rocky bottom of the manhatten base they build everything on?

Ive chatted to guys at emporis and shown diagrams of spire and most agree aircraft beacon structure WILL be included in official height. Also they are undecided on where to take height from.
There is apparently 3 entrances all dif levels.
1st @ 15.7m below, mall elevation,
2nd @ 8m below
and the one we have been going off.
so it could be 819m, or 827m or 835m.
SOM will give plans to emporis after completion so they can decide.

which one is the lowest entrance? can't see that on the renders and models.

Before I get too excited, can someone clarify the height of the warsaw radio mast?

Wikipedia states it was 646.38 m. I know the mast has been destroyed and BD is the tallest structure on earth as of now but 10 metres more and it'll be the tallest structure ever.

Congratulations to the BD team nonetheless. :banana:

just wondering, only 192 concrete piles, that doesnt sound much to me, but i suppose the ground they're building on is of a total different level in comparison to the dutch swampie earth below my feet. But still, for a surface as big as the base of this building,
is the ground of the same quality as if the rocky bottom of the manhatten base they build everything on?

The shape of the building helps allot on reducing the overall number of piles needed, and no the soil is not rocky.

Hey cul
Found your diagram on GIZMODO
http://gizmodo.com/391942/burj-dubai-becomes-worlds-tallest-man+made-structure-today

You should get paid by emaar for publishing it so well, or at least get to go once up to the beacon that you love so much hehe:nuts:

NO official confirmation of the milestone from Emaar yet? Do they even know that they've broken the record???

They will probably announce it in 4-7 days.

Before I get too excited, can someone clarify the height of the warsaw radio mast?

Wikipedia states it was 646.38 m. I know the mast has been destroyed and BD is the tallest structure on earth as of now but 10 metres more and it'll be the tallest structure ever.

Congratulations to the BD team nonetheless. :banana:

the BD is already the Tallest Structure ever build, it is 649.7m tall now :)

Thanks ZZ. I'm excited now!
:banana::nuts::cheers::pepper::booze::applause::cucumber::banana2::righton::cheer::yes::okay::grouphug::nuts::cheers2::cucumber::rofl::carrot:

I'll let my son know, he's mad about skyscrapers too.

Again, well done to the BD team!

May 17th by Thomas Piontek, flickr:

http://i28.tinypic.com/10nvrbn.jpg

Yhea Congratulations Burj Dubai, architec, engineers, workers who make possible this great challenge of coming increasingly high place to come to the sky...
:banana::pepper::booze::applause::bow::dance::bow::applause::booze::pepper::banana:
Burj Dubai
Wold's Tallest Structure 19 / MAY /2008
AT 649.7m to possible 819m or 850M:banana:

On the pic above, this row of lowrise "pre-boom" housing, will they stand there forever?, must be sitting on REALLY valuable peace of land, I want to see some towers there, any change of that happening?



"workers who make possible this great challenge of coming increasingly high place to come to the sky.."--- HECTOR

:crazy:hahaha gotz to lovvit- cheers hector, you made my day:cheers:

congratilon to tallest structure ever build :P

Congratulations to all!!! Congratulations to the people that is watching the progress of Burj since 1 or two years ago!

I begin to see the Burj progress two years ago! And now... os the tallest thing on the Earth!

:cheers:

Sweet! Congratulations on breaking the record, Dubai! :cheers:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9465/burjdubaiwarsawradiomasgh5.jpg


Sweet! great ! :cheers::banana:^^

Congratulations Dubai for the tallest structure ever made.
P.S this is my first post in this thread.:banana:

I am a myself a little bit underwhelmed by it beating the Warsaw mast.

That was just a mesh of steel held up by guy wires. Not really an engineering achievement at all in comparison. Hence why they are spattered all over the US like confetti.

For me THE celebration was when it surpassed the CN tower - always the daddy since I was a toddler, for me freestanding is a pre requisite. If they were building a 3000 foot mast now I wouldn't be remotely interested in it.

The excitement is really how the looks are changing with the cladding rising, and how it is tapering to its pinnacle. It looked odd 18 months ago, and way too thin. But now with it's proportions becoming truly evident and the optics created by the cladding, it makes this truly a sight too behold and a reason to visit Dubai on it's own.

Breathtaking.

The speed of the steel floors should double now

sure, the floors are getting smaller every 3 floors but i don't think they'll doulbe the speed ^^, though 1 week per floor would be great :)

[QUOTE=Spandex;20878284]On the pic above, this row of lowrise "pre-boom" housing, will they stand there forever?, must be sitting on REALLY valuable peace of land, I want to see some towers there, any change of that happening?

Those lowrise "pre-boom"
housing look fine to me ,there's no lack of highrise and supertalls in Dubai ,so once in a while there's must be some space of lowrise condos or parks ,artificial lakes or fountains to make the City looks more spacious and livable, besides those are very nice looking lowrise, when there's ton of skyscrapers around those lowrise houses must be so expensive to accquire , just to be different you know :)

If they official people measured the height of the concrete to 601m then i should think thats what we shud go with... so its like 15m more than we think atm? my opinion.

And the steel floors will take 2 weeks or more to complete i thinkk, each.

May 18th by shaolo/paolo, flickr....looks damn tall:

highres: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paolobayless/2509167898/sizes/o/
http://i32.tinypic.com/rr6q3c.jpg

Brilliant!

The news is in Austrailia!!! http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/05/burj_dubai_becomes_worlds_tallest_manmade_structure_today-2.html

Hey culwalla, your name's Brian right?