Is this tower standing on sand ?

Is this tower standing on sand ?

Actually no, it floats in Air and its kept down in place using the longest/strongest piece of cotton string in the WhooOoooLe wide world.

:nuts:

on a more serious Note, Yes the Burj Dubai stands on soil / rock !!!!

Is this tower standing on sand ?

Not only that, this tower is made up of sand too.


If it was on sand, soon we will have the leaning tower of Dubai :lol:

Not only that, this tower is made up of sand too.


If it was on sand, soon we will have the leaning tower of Dubai :lol:

^^ :lol::lol::lol: But The leaning Tower of DUbai will be the 8th World Wonder :okay: So, go for it ! :D:D

^^ :lol::lol::lol: But The leaning Tower of DUbai will be the 8th World Wonder :okay: So, go for it ! :D:D


But the problem is all residents living within 818m from centre of BD (An area around 2.1km sq) have to be evacuted, and that is quite a huge space to waste :lol:



Anyway joke aside, Anyone know when they will be going up again? Since i suppose they stopped going higher for now.

I wonder how many cooling towers it'll take to handle a building that size... and most importantly, where are they going to place them?

^^ The airco units will be placed in the mechanical floors. And they're indeed big :)

Can someone circle them in a picture or at least tell me the following info?
1.) Ho many mechanical floors?
2.) How big are they? I heard they take 2 stories
3.) Where are they located?
5.) What do they consist of?
6.) Are mechanical floors a standard requirement for all supertalls?
7.) Who is going to manage them? That is to say...if you have professional technical skills and want to move to dubai to work on a supertall, where do you apply?

- Senju (www.dubaisupertalls.com)

5.) What do they consist of?



Winding mechanisms for the elevators
Power supply, electrical generators and distribution
Air conditioning and chiller plant
Water distribution, including pumps to supply the higher floors
Fire suppression systems
and so on.



6.) Are mechanical floors a standard requirement for all supertalls?


Any building needs mechanical floors.
For low rises, it is usually the basement.
Otherwise, any building with elevators needs mechanical plant on higher floors

The Environmental Lapse Rate is the vertical temperature change observed in our atmospheric environment. It changes from time to time, but averages out to be around 3.0ºF/1000 feet. The Environmental Lapse Rate is obtained by radiosonde launched twice a day from many sites.

The Dry Adiabatic Lapse Rate is the rate of temperature change experienced by an air parcel moving vertically relative to the surrounding air (whose temperature profile is shown by the Environmental Lapse Rate). The dry adiabatic lapse rate is a constant 5.5ºF/1000 feet.

The Wet Adiabatic Lapse Rate is the rate of temperature change experienced by a saturated air parcel in which condensation is occurring moving vertically relative to the surrounding air (whose temperature profile is shown by the Environmental Lapse Rate). The wet adiabatic lapse rate is not a constant but averages out to be about 3.5ºF/1000 feet. This lapse rate is the dry adiabatic rate modified by the latent heat of condensation.

per : http://tornado.sfsu.edu/geosciences/classes/m356/Instability.html

The Burj Dubai will be 818 meters (2683.7 feet) so if it's 100ºF on the ground it could be as low as 85.24ºF at the pinnacle, a difference of 14.76ºF ...now we know where to find a cool breeze in the desert.

Cheers,

Tom

Can someone circle them in a picture or at least tell me the following info?
1.) Ho many mechanical floors?
2.) How big are they? I heard they take 2 stories
3.) Where are they located?
5.) What do they consist of?
6.) Are mechanical floors a standard requirement for all supertalls?
7.) Who is going to manage them? That is to say...if you have professional technical skills and want to move to dubai to work on a supertall, where do you apply?


1: There are at least 5 mechanical floor groups.

2: One mechanical floor takes up indeed 2 stories and they are clustered with a group off 2/3 floors.

The questions 5 and 6 are already awnserd and the rest i dont know.

Hoped to awnserd the first 2 questions and here:

Cheers :cheers2:

very very tall!!but with wich will be filled when finished?

^^ Whith people.

^^ Whith people.

^^ lmao

lol. great project btw

The Burj Dubai will be 818 meters (2683.7 feet) so if it's 100ºF on the ground it could be as low as 85.24ºF at the pinnacle, a difference of 14.76ºF ...now we know where to find a cool breeze in the desert.




From what I know there temperature drop 1 deg C every 500ft/150m for most cases. So the highest accessible Balcony at Tier 27 (768.1m/2520ft) will experience a drop of at least 5 deg C from the ground floor of the tower.



If located at any tropical country, this building will be seen piercing through the clouds frequently.

WATS WRONG WHIT THE SERVER ?? IT HAS SAD THIS FOUR 4 DAYS NOW FOUR ME !




http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2310/namnlsrp4.jpg

From what I know there temperature drop 1 deg C every 500ft/150m for most cases. So the highest accessible Balcony at Tier 27 (768.1m/2520ft) will experience a drop of at least 5 deg C from the ground floor of the tower.

A change of 1 degree Celsius equals a change of 9/5 = 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit So with your stats it would be 9 degrees cooler at 2520.. But dry air cools faster then wet air, I like the 14 degree cool off at the top. I guess it will come down to the humidity level at the time of reference.

Cheers,

Tom

WATS WRONG WHIT THE SERVER ?? IT HAS SAD THIS FOUR 4 DAYS NOW FOUR ME !

Looks like its working fine for you now.... hahaha you scribbled out your user name. We now know who you are watergate.

:D

Tom

^^ Whith people.

yes obvous but the whole city with all this mega project seems to me a bit empity to fill easily or not?

Does anyone know how they will attach the steel section to the concrete section?

Will it be bolted staight down to the top off the highest concrete level or something?

Also if the steel is lighter couldnt they have made the entire building from steel?? :cheers::cheers: :cheers::cheers::banana:

they began with the steel-structure already on floor 154 i believe. and with every new floor there was more steel and less concrete. and the next floor will only be made out of steel

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2083/armani34yz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The design was rather simple. Clean cut, straight lines with soft grey furnishings and soft black leather walls dominated the apartment.

This is Armani’s signature apartment at the world’s tallest building, Burj Dubai.

The press preview on Sunday took reporters through sturdy floors made from black marble, which gave a dark feel to the room. But this was complemented with soft yellow lighting which added a touch of warmth to the whole apartment.

A soft grey, rather large sofa dominated the living room and faced the neatly organised entertainment system.

The kitchen also struck as simple yet practical, with large appliances neatly tucked away behind cupboards, hidden away from the naked eye.

Again the relaxing lighting complemented the light grey cupboards and the walls.

The bedrooms are located at the left and right of the living room. Each bedroom contains a good sized en-suite bathroom with marble cream floors, and accessories which also match the soft grey coloring of the living room.

When entering the bedrooms, the double bed, placed in the centre, dominates the area and faces a state-of-the-art system with a flat-screen TV and all that comes with it.

A walk in closet graced with vintage Armani clothing and shoes greeted visitors.

The room also offered spectacular views of the balcony which faces a massive lake filled with fountains, walking bridges, the Dubai Mall, and the Arab and Italian architectures of various future projects and buildings around the Burj Dubai.

The whole apartment is filled with black marble flooring and soft grey leather walls, which gives it a somewhat masculine feel.

This apartment is certainly not for the claustrophobic with the dark colours and tight knit surroundings.

Although the design is clear cut, one can’t help but feel you are in a maze. Doors and entries are not clear and it is not for those who like bright colours and airy surroundings. It is defiantly a flat for the metropolitan bachelor.

However, one can’t help falling in love with the overall aura and feel of the flat.

It exudes elegance, relaxation, and serenity. It almost automatically makes you relax and feel at ease. The soft, warm lighting relaxes you and the apartment makes you feel like you are in another time, almost in the future.

It is not cluttered in anyway but has just the right amount of furniture in just the right space. The small space has been used wisely.

Ahmed Al Matrooshi, managing director Emaar Properties said: “You are not just buying a flat. You are buying a lifestyle, all the items have been selected by Giorgio Armani himself.”

The Armani Residences will be located between the 9-16 floors, offering spectacular views.

There will be 144 one- and two-bedroom private residences. The total area per unit will vary between 100 and 200 square metres. Residents will have access to hotel assistance services including 24-hour room service, housekeeping, library, spa, gym and swimming pool.


http://www.xpress4me.com/news/uae/dubai/20003918.html

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Also if the steel is lighter couldnt they have made the entire building from steel?? :cheers::cheers: :cheers::cheers::banana:

yes it's possible to build such a tower completely in steel, however there are no steel mills in Dubai so all the steel has to be imported which is more expensive than using concrete. Also are concrete buildings safer in case of a fire or a terrorist attack. Besides that has concrete a neutralizing effect on the temperature inside the building, which creates a more stable climate.
:cheers:

i've been looking at the Burj Dubai core, since tier 18 starts at 624m. if they can keep going with tier 18 to were tier 20 start's the tower won't be really that skinny at that height. what do you guys think ?. i've edit tier 18 so it goes all the way to tier 21
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1249/tier182ht2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

here's Tier 22, highest Ocuppied floor
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6072/tier183ne1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

These are some of the permanent lighting that will be featured in the lake....I did post the itinerary for all the lighting before but yet again I was asked by Samsung to take it down!




This doesn't make sense. You'd need to seal the lights off and there's no reason to carry road cases in and leave them near the lights if it were a permanent installation.

What will be the floors made of steel used for?

Technical equipment

Ever since the "v-bulletin" thing updated, the page keeps saying there are more pages than there are, e.g we're on page 21 but it says there are 23....

in some cases, it says ther are 40, but in fact, there are only 34..

This doesn't make sense. You'd need to seal the lights off and there's no reason to carry road cases in and leave them near the lights if it were a permanent installation.

I would put more stock in what Old Town Resident has to say, considering that he is there and actually knows what he is talking about.

MECHANICAL FLOOR CLADDING
the the wall type of cladding on those floor not only on the mechanical but on the teracces are different because it has ballustrades. the problem lies on the structure, it cant carry the ballustrade support due to high net windload due its open area. and because of the cantilever beam effect, The cladding system was designed that they need to support the ballustrade from the two floor below by making use of a continous beam effect on the vertical mullion. this could mean that they have to make the ballustrade and the cladding below as "one.
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so this week the top level of construction will happen? hope so.

looking awesome
http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/30470/2005155010610264894_rs.jpg

omg!!!!!!!!!!!!! its just amazing to see this kind of building, just 4 words to describe it:¨
out of this world!!!!!!!!

diagram update
if you take into account the official 162 floors. there are actually over 40 enclosed levels/platforms/landings above this which are 3m high each, thus total number of floors are 205. approx.
All the 6m (segments) high floors up to tier24 have mid level landings, thus 2 floors each (3m).

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2568/burjdubaitopoutzz6.jpg

Apparently there is an ongoing strike in dubai

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071028/ap_on_re_mi_ea/dubai_labor_unrest_4

Article makes no mention of whether or not this is affecting the Burj, however..

"At the root of the problem is the Emirati Dirham's close connection to the U.S. dollar, which has seen it plummet in value, further decreasing laborers' already low salaries."

Workers want a minimum wage of $270/mo.

Ok, Now we know why the facade of the Mechanical Floors are stopped, but now there's a new question... why there's no facade in this part??

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8498/fachadak1qn9.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fachadak1qn9.jpg)

^^ i think it's because of the steel frame that's all around the tower is in the way. so it may take a while befor they move it then replace it with windows or those might be actual mech's themself

looks like there puting up a window frame like on the Mechs floors
http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/30470/2005155010610264894_rs.jpg

The interesting thing is that they put panel installation rails under the fourth mechanical floor.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2286/image1na6.jpg
I suppose that we can expect the fourth vertical section of cladding installation to start soon then...

Vincent.

This doesn't make sense. You'd need to seal the lights off and there's no reason to carry road cases in and leave them near the lights if it were a permanent installation.Well I can't argue with your logic or your observations, you obviously know about these things much more than I do. However, the permanent lighting should start installation on November 1st 2007 according to the last updated time schedule which was updated just 3 months ago. I suppose we'll see if they're permanent or not over the next few weeks.

Apparently there is an ongoing strike in dubai ... Article makes no mention of whether or not this is affecting the Burj, however ...

The strike did not affect the Burj Dubai. The article says that the laborers "stag[ed] protests at a labor camp in Dubai's Jebel Ali Industrial Zone and on a construction site in Al Qusais residential neighborhood."

I believe the construction of the Burj Dubai will only be affected if the Burj Dubai workers copy these protests or if the economy gets even worse.

The following article about the strike explicitly mentions the Burj Dubai ...

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7066853.stm

Thousands of foreign construction workers in the Gulf state of Dubai have gone on strike over pay and conditions.

Workers blocked roads and threw stones at police on Saturday, prompting a government threat to deport rioters.

A fall in value of the UAE dirham means workers are unable to send as much money home as they previously could.

Dubai's economy has boomed in recent years, fuelled largely by a construction industry reliant on low-paid workers, many from South Asia.

But the emirate has been hit by a labour shortage recently as India's own economic boom has offered an alternative source of jobs.

Dubai's foreign workers are demanding higher pay and improved housing as they work on prestige projects such as the Burj Dubai - set to be the world's tallest building.

Analysts say it is time for the authorities to consider a minimum wage.

Workers want a minimum wage of $270/mo.

Given the increase in cost of living in Dubai, I'm amazed that they are currently getting less than $10 per day. Wow!

Given the increase in cost of living in Dubai, I'm amazed that they are currently getting less than $10 per day. Wow!

Plus accommodation and food.

Ok, Now we know why the facade of the Mechanical Floors are stopped, but now there's a new question... why there's no facade in this part??

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8498/fachadak1qn9.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fachadak1qn9.jpg)

the cladding used just under each wing roof is different: they seem to have joints for a safety frame (?) or something: have a look at the corresponding area in the lower wing..you'll see what i mean.

The following article about the strike explicitly mentions the Burj Dubai ...

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7066853.stm

Thousands of foreign construction workers in the Gulf state of Dubai have gone on strike over pay and conditions.

Workers blocked roads and threw stones at police on Saturday, prompting a government threat to deport rioters.

A fall in value of the UAE dirham means workers are unable to send as much money home as they previously could.

Dubai's economy has boomed in recent years, fuelled largely by a construction industry reliant on low-paid workers, many from South Asia.

But the emirate has been hit by a labour shortage recently as India's own economic boom has offered an alternative source of jobs.

Dubai's foreign workers are demanding higher pay and improved housing as they work on prestige projects such as the Burj Dubai - set to be the world's tallest building.

Analysts say it is time for the authorities to consider a minimum wage.
projects such as the Burj Dubai still doesn't mean the burj dubai tower is specifically affected. About a year ago there was a strike at the burj dubai site though.

:nuts:

was this picture already posted?

http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/31277/2003614249774952117_rs.jpg

OMG look how gigantic this baby is!!! And still more than 200m to go.

^^^^ Looks old.. ?

I truly hope the government does not give into the strikers demands and introduce a minimumwage in Dubai, that is really terrible. Afterall, all of these workers have travelled here only to get more than they get at home so they can send money home instead of spending it all. All these individuals can at any time choose to go home; any wage increase will come naturally as a consequence of labor shortages - and should NOT come as a strike-imposed rule.

Tell them to get a subway then. Towers are a good idea in hot weather.

i believe then that you have never really lived in the tropics. i have and i know that these towers are almost impossible to cool in areas with daily temperatures approaching 40 degrees celsuis.
i still think its an utter waste of spirit, and resources.

in post #522 did anyone else notice the large white triangular structure at the very top of the tower

looks to me like some part of the steel structure but i dont know

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2. there are professionals with clear minds and rightly focused attitudes in nigeria
3. not up to 5% of the population of Lagos are into the fraud sector
3. i think your a little myopic in your arguments to have posted that reply on the net
4. even if you had so much, some of us in the tropics are rich and comfortable by ALL world standards.
if you are interested we can talk intellectually on my cell 2348037002277, if you can afford it
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diagram update
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Piles 50 Meters deep - do they hit bedrock ? Hardpan ?

Hi Harry.

The piles are skin friction piles. I don't believe they hit bedrock.

:cheers:

in post #522 did anyone else notice the large white triangular structure at the very top of the tower

looks to me like some part of the steel structure but i dont know

^^ Part of the construction crane on the right.

i believe then that you have never really lived in the tropics. i have and i know that these towers are almost impossible to cool in areas with daily temperatures approaching 40 degrees celsuis.
i still think its an utter waste of spirit, and resources.

It is possible to cool them with today's technologies and do you really think that it will be more difficult (and more expensive) to cool a tower with 500 apartments then 500 dettached homes? Then consider the footprint and the enviromental impact of a tower compared to that of a 500 homes town.

Piles 50 Meters deep - do they hit bedrock ? Hardpan ?


haha i was wondering the worker digging/boring till bedrock ... :lol:

^^ Part of the construction crane on the right.

FTL, That's what I thought the A-frame of the right hand crane, but look at the pic taken by Imre, is it part of the structure.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8713/imresolt10oj1.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt10oj1.jpg)

i dont that in that image it looks like straps from a rebar lift or something because the crane's boom is attached to the top of it

Must be. The pic is taken just in time when that thing was put into position. Steel rope can also be spotted above "that thing".

Is just something lifted by the crane. There is no steel structure erected on top.

He's just another big fan of Dubai from Chicago :cheers:


Yep Hollie, a huge fan, with a huge chip!

yes it's possible to build such a tower completely in steel, however there are no steel mills in Dubai so all the steel has to be imported which is more expensive than using concrete. Also are concrete buildings safer in case of a fire or a terrorist attack. Besides that has concrete a neutralizing effect on the temperature inside the building, which creates a more stable climate.
:cheers:
I would not want to be up in Burj Dubai to see how safe it is when a wide body 767 hits it at 500mph. I bet there is not a single supertall on the planet that would do any better than the WTC.

BD is a reinforced concrete structure (up to nearly 600m). so a plane would damage it of course but it wouldnt make it collapse. The WTC had a different structural frame which was perfect to demolish due to its outer frame and floor plates stacked like cards. Its steel core was severly damaged from fuel fire which weekened the structure causing its collapse. btw why would any terrorist do that in Dubai anyway?

I truly hope the government does not give into the strikers demands and introduce a minimumwage in Dubai, that is really terrible. Afterall, all of these workers have travelled here only to get more than they get at home so they can send money home instead of spending it all. All these individuals can at any time choose to go home; any wage increase will come naturally as a consequence of labor shortages - and should NOT come as a strike-imposed rule.

Do a bit of research. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Well, no what Sanders says is correct except for one small part. Unfortunately these workers can't leave if they want to because, purportedly, the government confiscated their passports. I don't know how much substance this claim has behind it but if it's true then these workers aren't free to leave until the government returns their passports.

thanks malec

Well, no what Sanders says is correct except for one small part. Unfortunately these workers can't leave if they want to because, purportedly, the government confiscated their passports. I don't know how much substance this claim has behind it but if it's true then these workers aren't free to leave until the government returns their passports.

He's also wrong about them making more money in Dubai. They spend it all just to survive there, and they have nothing left to send back to their families.

Yeah, I've heard that too but then again I don't know the truth of that claim either. So far I have never seen anyone actually show sources for this info - if someone could break down cost of living in Dubai and compare that to income for workers (not average income because different workers get different pay) then I would have some idea...but so far I've never actually seen that. I'm just expected to take people at their word. And on the internet word is often, unfortunately, false.

I can't believe the Burj topped out this fast. Can't wait to see how they put up the steel section.

I would not want to be up in Burj Dubai to see how safe it is when a wide body 767 hits it at 500mph. I bet there is not a single supertall on the planet that would do any better than the WTC.

the Burj Dubai wouldn't collapse like the wtc.

Please take your discussion about the working conditions in Dubai to the Skybar (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15)! :bash:

This is NOT the place for this topic.

btw why would any terrorist do that in Dubai anyway?

I think for some reason a lot of people think "tall building, terrorist attack" no matter where it is or why something like that would happen. It's silly.

I think for some reason a lot of people think "tall building, terrorist attack" no matter where it is or why something like that would happen. It's silly.

On the other hand, it would've been naive if the investors and architects had totally ignored that point... there's a better feeling for them and their tenants, knowing that such a unique tower can stand some worst case scenarios. Yes, a planecrash is very unlikely now in Dubai, but nobody can surely tell how political circumstances might change during the next 10, 20 years... :moods:

All in all it makes sense in many ways that less destructible concrete was chosen for the useable space of Burj Dubai... and the concrete pumps have not been overstrained by lifting the stuff to a world record height for concrete. :applause:

There is nothing out there that will withstand an impact from a jumbo jet (even the new WTC). I dont give a shit what they claim.. maybe the whole tower wont collapse, but the floors above the impact most likely will (at least partially). Concrete, or steel, these arent made to withstand something that extreme.. if you are anywhere around these floors of impact, you are fucked no matter what.. if the WTC was 4 times as wide across, then maybe it wouldnt have collapsed. No building for that matter is going to be that wide at that height though; not even these proposed monstrosities that are supposed to be a mile high.. The twins were still built pretty strong though considering even its shortcomings....

This is something that they just cant say for sure, but they can speculate a lot on and give educated guesses based on statistics and other figures....

BD is a reinforced concrete structure (up to nearly 600m). so a plane would damage it of course but it wouldnt make it collapse. The WTC had a different structural frame which was perfect to demolish due to its outer frame and floor plates stacked like cards. Its steel core was severly damaged from fuel fire which weekened the structure causing its collapse. btw why would any terrorist do that in Dubai anyway?

If the west is filled with 'infidels,' think of what they might do to individuals in their own geographic region guilty of the same sins. Just look at the level of prostitution for one, or the amount of opulence that the Burj displays. I'm not saying that I condemn either of these things personally, but it's not hard to connect the dots to see why someone might, given the current state of the world.

If we need to cast ballots on this, I will throw mine in favor of a 767 not knocking down the burj, but I would prefer to not have to think about those moments again for the sick pleasure of wondering whether or not it's a possibility. Let's get back to the subject at hand.

When is the cladding for the next tier scheduled to start and what are the estimated rates of rise for the steel structure in days per floor?

Perhaps am wrong, but is the steel coming up now on the site? ( the I-beams etc...)

Are there any indicators of activity that could show that the steel section is started end the concrete section finnaly is finished?

Perhaps am wrong, but is the steel coming up now on the site? ( the I-beams etc...)

Are there any indicators of activity that could show that the steel section is started end the concrete section finnaly is finished?

On Saturday there were no signs of storage, columns, beams, stiffeners etc etc, or any sign of pre-fabrication of steel structure at ground level.

No, there is no sign of the steel structure starting and Greg Sang, the Project Manager for EMAAR actually said that the reported topping of the concrete part is not true and they aren't done yet, so the increase to 159 floors of concrete might be true indeed.

We will see this very soon. Formwork is now on L156. If it rises again there is a change in the plan. I am still with the old plans.

by bizzybonita

Burj Dubai nearly at its peak


by ArabianBusiness.com staff writer

The ‘topping out' of the Burj Dubai is expected to take place at the end of October. According to Geir Jensen, general manager of Doka Gulf, who are undertaking the formwork for the project, the company expects to finish the concrete works on the world's tallest tower by 24 October, paving the way for the steel work.

"We will top out with concrete within ten days," said Jensen.

Once this is complete, Doka Gulf will concentrate on completing the side aspects of the tower, the tapering nature of which will act as wind breaks.

Jensen added that the tower will reach a height of 585.75 metres once the concrete work has been completed.

But as the core starts 15.75 metres below ground level, the total height of the concrete structure will be 601 metres. The Burj Dubai will have 156 floors by the time it is finished, which is expected at the end of next year.

Malaysia's Eversendai Corporation recently won the $14.7 million contract from Samsung Corporation for the structural steelworks.

The company will require more than 4,000 tonnes of steel for the work.

The final height of the tower has not been disclosed by developer Emaar Properties. However, it is widely believed it will be more than 700 metres.

In September, the Burj Dubai surpassed Toronto's CN Tower to become the tallest free-standing structure in the world.


R

so "topping out " tomorrow?:)

It says last concrete works were on 24th October, so maybe they are already dismantling the formwork now. Unfortunatly, there is no recent pics to check it out;)

tomorrow I will post new pics.

It says last concrete works were on 24th October, so maybe they are already dismantling the formwork now. Unfortunatly, there is no recent pics to check it out;)

I can see from my window and the formwork is still there.

amazing... I can't wait to see it brighten.
:cheers2:

There is nothing out there that will withstand an impact from a jumbo jet (even the new WTC). I dont give a shit what they claim.. maybe the whole tower wont collapse, but the floors above the impact most likely will (at least partially). Concrete, or steel, these arent made to withstand something that extreme.. if you are anywhere around these floors of impact, you are fucked no matter what.. if the WTC was 4 times as wide across, then maybe it wouldnt have collapsed. No building for that matter is going to be that wide at that height though; not even these proposed monstrosities that are supposed to be a mile high.. The twins were still built pretty strong though considering even its shortcomings....

This is something that they just cant say for sure, but they can speculate a lot on and give educated guesses based on statistics and other figures....
The Pentagon was concrete and it collapsed in the area hit by a smaller 757 so I am sure BD would be a total loss if hit by a wide body 767 at 500mph like the WTC. It's amazing how clueless people are when they think any supertall would take a hit like that without being destroyed. A concrete exit ramp in the San Francisco Bay area collapsed when a tanker truck crashed and burned at 40mph this past year.

Stunning! It seems like yesterday this tower haven't started groundbreaking and now it's almost complete. Really fast

i agree BD would have substantial damage if a plane hit 3/4 way up but it wouldnt collapse like the WTC did. totally dif structure. wtc was external steel frame with floor plates like pancakes.Steel skyscrapers arent one entity like a total concrete skyscraper is.
sorry to harp on a morbid subject. delete if yu want

^^ Yes alot of desert ... apart a metropol stretching for 40 - 50 kms along the coast (Sharjah included) and up to 10 inland, and this is as of now with planned and u/c projects not included. :tongue2:

^^ The airco units will be placed in the mechanical floors. And they're indeed big :)

Well chillers and AHU's can be paced in mechanical floors, but the actual cooling towers have to be outdoors. I don't picture them being on the roof in this particular case, but that's generally where they put them... Wonder if they'll just use the top of their parking decks for the cooling towers.

Gosh I can't even begin to imagine how massive their parking decks are going to be. :uh:

BD is a reinforced concrete structure (up to nearly 600m). so a plane would damage it of course but it wouldnt make it collapse. The WTC had a different structural frame which was perfect to demolish due to its outer frame and floor plates stacked like cards. Its steel core was severly damaged from fuel fire which weekened the structure causing its collapse. btw why would any terrorist do that in Dubai anyway?

Terrorism aside, do you guys know what they're doing as far as life safety systems and evacuation routes? Is it just good ol' stairwells or do they have something more fancy and innovative in mind?

If it is stairwells, I'd hate to be the one trying to coordinate a fire drill. I can imagine the calls I'd get from the tenants...

"Yeah, the alarms are going off on our floor... is this a real emergency?"

"No sir, it's just a fire drill, but we would appreciate your participation."

"Well... we would... but we're on the top floor, I think we'll stay put."

Re: Working conditions, with a snippet re: Burj Dubai.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E608D085-1980-4F09-A645-09F503D4430E.htm

Terrorism aside, do you guys know what they're doing as far as life safety systems and evacuation routes? Is it just good ol' stairwells or do they have something more fancy and innovative in mind?

If it is stairwells, I'd hate to be the one trying to coordinate a fire drill. I can imagine the calls I'd get from the tenants...

"Yeah, the alarms are going off on our floors... is this a real emergency?"

"No sir, it's just a fire drill, but we would appreciate your participation."

"Well... we would... but we're on the top floor, I think we'll stay put."

In Chicago we evacuate down 2 floors, practiced once or twice a year (office building). A Fire Dept official rates our evacuation team and gives pointers.

It is possible to cool them with today's technologies and do you really think that it will be more difficult (and more expensive) to cool a tower with 500 apartments then 500 dettached homes? Then consider the footprint and the enviromental impact of a tower compared to that of a 500 homes town.
and i've been yapping about sustainability. for once, a sensible point about the intents of these supertalls. how is the heating and cooling to be done? are the lifts to be solar powered? how much power will the building itself generate?

Well chillers and AHU's can be paced in mechanical floors, but the actual cooling towers have to be outdoors. I don't picture them being on the roof in this particular case, but that's generally where they put them... Wonder if they'll just use the top of their parking decks for the cooling towers.

Gosh I can't even begin to imagine how massive their parking decks are going to be. :uh:

This tower uses district cooling.

and i've been yapping about sustainability. for once, a sensible point about the intents of these supertalls. how is the heating and cooling to be done? are the lifts to be solar powered? how much power will the building itself generate?

Once again: compare the sustainability of this tower with the combined one of 500 separate suburbian-type homes.

Once again: compare the sustainability of this tower with the combined one of 500 separate suburbian-type homes.

This can't be repeated enough. Sure, highrises are expensive to build, but from an environmental standpoint they are MUCH more benign than a huge slough of single dwelling homes. Imagine if someone argued that buses are bad for the environment because they consume more fuel than a car. Sure this is true, but a bus carries 20 cars worth of people. In the same way, a high rise takes more energy, land and resources than one house, but far less than it would for the number of houses it replaces.

Terrorism aside, do you guys know what they're doing as far as life safety systems and evacuation routes? Is it just good ol' stairwells or do they have something more fancy and innovative in mind?

If it is stairwells, I'd hate to be the one trying to coordinate a fire drill. I can imagine the calls I'd get from the tenants...

"Yeah, the alarms are going off on our floors... is this a real emergency?"

"No sir, it's just a fire drill, but we would appreciate your participation."

"Well... we would... but we're on the top floor, I think we'll stay put."

you'll find the info you need in this article.....Rolf Jensen Associates was the Code/Fire Safety consultant.

http://www.nfpa.org/publicJournalDetail.asp?categoryID=1418&itemID=33178&src=NFPAJournal&cookie%5Ftest=1

Hi all.

Here is a detail print of the top of the tower.

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/31684/2004775456568375447_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004775456568375447)

We can see the 1.2 meter dia. tier 30 pinnacle and the 1.5 meter dia. platform on top. We can also see where the lights connect .400 meters above the platform. We can also see the guardrail 1.1 meters above the 818.0 platform. This 1.1 meters probably won't be counted in the official height. Just as the official height will be measured from the ground and not from the slab 15.25 meters below that.

Just imagine how awesome it would be to be standing out on that platform holding on to that guardrail taking in the view !

Awesome.

Enjoy. :cheers:

WTF? ^^^

^^ WTF. :?

Here it is, its old, and low quality, but good enough. I trimed it down, originally an hour long.

Dubai: Pursuit of Happiness

Its a good one, Project manager Greg is in it. Also documents a Pakistanian worker, on topic with the current buzz about them. He does say he makes 16 times more in Dubai.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCzpNLdEdE
Yes that is the foundation of Burj Dubai under construction!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWO_2yQEHQo
Don't you wish you had those binders?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnXdaq97STg

Your welcome :D
Cheers:cheers::cheers::cheers:

No, there is no sign of the steel structure starting and Greg Sang, the Project Manager for EMAAR actually said that the reported topping of the concrete part is not true and they aren't done yet, so the increase to 159 floors of concrete might be true indeed.

i dont want to sound like an asshole, but were did you hear that from ?

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Its a MONSTER !

Looks like a huge spaceship on that picture :o

Its too huge, it needs 500+meters building around it!

Terrorism aside, do you guys know what they're doing as far as life safety systems and evacuation routes? Is it just good ol' stairwells or do they have something more fancy and innovative in mind?

If it is stairwells, I'd hate to be the one trying to coordinate a fire drill. I can imagine the calls I'd get from the tenants...

"Yeah, the alarms are going off on our floors... is this a real emergency?"

"No sir, it's just a fire drill, but we would appreciate your participation."

"Well... we would... but we're on the top floor, I think we'll stay put."

There are refuge floors located around the tower (one where each set of mechanical floors are probably). Don't know where the article that says this is though

Hi Malec.

The levels that have area of refuge are; 42, 75, 111, and 138.

:cheers:

^^ What source did you use Fury? I also cannot remember :)

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It looks like something from a starwars movie (AWESOME)

Hi all.

Here is a detail print of the top of the tower.


We can also see the guardrail 1.1 meters above the 818.0 platform. This 1.1 meters probably won't be counted in the official height.
Just imagine how awesome it would be to be standing out on that platform holding on to that guardrail taking in the view !

Awesome.

Enjoy. :cheers:

Hey Fury I would love to stand on the guardrail and snap a few photos from the top. If however I'm holding on to a bolted down guardrail that will be a permanent part of the building, then I feel I would count that 1.1m in total height.

BTW why do they need that guardrail anyway? Is that for service people to actually stand on the pinnacle and view the planet below?

Skytower, for the record, does discuss what is the datum point of land or actual street level of the whole complex and according to his calculations BD will be taller than the claimed heights. Skytower states from that datum point is where official measurments of the building will actually take place. BD's ground floor is perhaps rising from infrustructure that is built up from existing street levels of dubai. Hopefully he can shed some light on where exactly the datum point is from.

Skytower if you did state it before sorry I have forgotten. Don't want to misquote you.:cheers:

funny, the thread has 31 pages, but everytime I click on page 31 I am redirected to page 30.

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I don't wanna imagine how is gonna be the skyscraper when it's finally built...

Simply awesome....

funny, the thread has 31 pages, but everytime I click on page 31 I am redirected to page 30.

yeh.. i mentioned that a few days ago dude...

Hey is it true, its gonna be more that 200 floor.... Gimme a heart attack!!!

some resources say that, and also it's mention in CULWULLA's diagram. but as of right now there's 164

cool... according to the diagram it shows 204 floors... noone is sure...

Hi Dettol. Source is that Emaar plan hanging on some wall in dubai. It has been posted here a few times though most are just portions of it.

Hi Beyond. There is 3 lights on top of the structure that must be servicable. It might be just a little too freaky to go out on that platform with no guardrail. :lol:. Seriously it is code and mandatory. The floor of the ground level is 0.000 as the heights are now.

:cheers:

If we include the heights of the cranes, Burj Dubai is already the world's tallest man-made structure?

Yeup. you know i was thinking, the Burj Dubai's emaar site has a pic of the old design. well why havent they just change it to the current design. unless there something we dont know.

Burj Dubais official floor count will be 162 floors.
and yes there are over 40 "levels" above this which are inhabitable ,thus not included in count which i reckon is wrong.
I mean these levels are enclosed and accessible by stairs?
so if someone asked me how tall Burj Dubai is, i would say 205 floors.

To me BD will be as tall to the end of the spire. otherwise the petronas ones may not be called former WTB if you understand what i mean?!

^of course. Its an architecural feature so its included. I was only commenting on how many floors BD will consist of. ;-)

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If there is a bigger version we need to see it!! Really amazing photo.

To me 162 are enough. Imagine evacuating 162 floors.

Burj Dubais official floor count will be 162 floors.
and yes there are over 40 "levels" above this which are inhabitable ,thus not included in count which i reckon is wrong.
I mean these levels are enclosed and accessible by stairs?
so if someone asked me how tall Burj Dubai is, i would say 205 floors. but what get's me is, Tier 22 is were the highest occupied floor level . so it would be taller then 162. technecly that should be the last occupied floor level. and we are going with the 818m plans so it should be more then 162

Hi Dettol. Source is that Emaar plan hanging on some wall in dubai. It has been posted here a few times though most are just portions of it.

Hi Beyond. There is 3 lights on top of the structure that must be servicable. It might be just a little too freaky to go out on that platform with no guardrail. :lol:. Seriously it is code and mandatory. The floor of the ground level is 0.000 as the heights are now.

:cheers:

Thank you Fury,

Yes, I remember the plans now. They have been an invaluable and rich source of information on the BD. It will be fun to see how onto them we were once BD is completed :)

Yeup. you know i was thinking, the Burj Dubai's emaar site has a pic of the old design. well why havent they just change it to the current design. unless there something we dont know.

Emaaar have not changed anything from day 1, the masterplan and exhibited models have not changed but the actual layout in the area has.

Dont expect any changes as its pretty poor stuff without any admin ownership from most of the web sites here.

The longest manmade shadow in the world :lol: (Masts are too skinny to cast shadows :bash: :D)

Imagery from GeoEye, October 19, 2007

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9199/burjps9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:cheers:

Well chillers and AHU's can be paced in mechanical floors, but the actual cooling towers have to be outdoors. I don't picture them being on the roof in this particular case, but that's generally where they put them... Wonder if they'll just use the top of their parking decks for the cooling towers.

Gosh I can't even begin to imagine how massive their parking decks are going to be. :uh:

I am not sure about BD but air conditioning for almost all new towers in Dubai is provided by chilled water supplied by District Cooling Companies. Chillers and AHU's on the roof is things of the past in Dubai.

^^ Yes the BD as well will use District Cooling.

^^ Yes the BD as well will use District Cooling.

Hollie, this link is the company that provides District Cooling to the full Downtown area.

http://www.tabreed.com/

cool... according to the diagram it shows 204 floors... noone is sure...
No, in fact we are all pretty much sure.

If we include the heights of the cranes, Burj Dubai is already the world's tallest man-made structure?
Yes

On clear days I can see the Burj & Emirates Towers from my condo here in Ajman :)

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Fantastic

Hi all!

From flickr
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From the beach. (Burj Al Arab or boat??) By Pantonechip
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2724/179980895197e96503b5bgc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
From Palm Jumeirah I think.
Enjoy! :banana2:

Emaaar have not changed anything from day 1, the masterplan and exhibited models have not changed but the actual layout in the area has.

Dont expect any changes as its pretty poor stuff without any admin ownership from most of the web sites here.

so what you are saying is, it was 800m+ since day 1

OMG what a tower!!!Cant wait until its finished. Stjern thx for sharing those brilliant pics with us. I think we will get today updates by Imre!

^^^^ yes:lol:

31/October/2007

Burj Dubai update

157 floors and 6378 workers at the site


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i cant see how there is 157 floors... it hasnt risen in height since last time..

31/October/2007

Burj Dubai from different places


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Burj Dubai, underground tunel

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district cooling building

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DEWA, substation building

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thank Imre...Burj Dubai and Burj Dubai Lake Hotel looks wonderful from this view
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thanks , I remember you asked this pic:)this is a good angle.

yes yes..it's me:)

so what you are saying is, it was 800m+ since day 1

No I was not refering to the height, I was talking about the general layout of the buildings and roads

157 floors and 6378 workers at the site





WTF? 157? Mean deviating from the plan?

OMG lol! Anyone care to share wat is the actual height of this new 157 floors? 590.5m or 592.1m?

The best updates worldwide !!!! It can be seen from everywhere !

this is great news; the increase to 159 concrete floors seems to be true as there is no sign of formwork or crane dismantling yet.......anyone have more info on this increase in height?

Culwalla; what are your thoughts/comments on this latest news?

That news are not true, BD is still on L156. Can be clearly seen on those two pics by Imre. First was taken on 24th October and the second one is from today. At least there is good progress on the wings:)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9464/241007jz8.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1759/311007bg2.jpg

why are there gaps in the cladding?

For fun!

:lol:

^^ I don't know what are you talking about but the form work on one side of the core is higher then on the other side (personal observation this morning, not related to Imre's updates) and that alone is evidence that the plans are altered and pumping of the concrete will go higher.

If you remember even Emaar officials said that they aren't done yet with the concrete part, when they were asked about completing the 156th means completing of the concrete section.

Even that we aren't going to get the first 1 km tower, still anything higher then 818 (if it will happen) is a case for celebration. I say "if it will happen" because we don't know if they are adding floors on the concrete section or maybe they are building out of concrete a few floors that were supposed to be build out of steel.

Hey Fury I would love to stand on the guardrail and snap a few photos from the top. If however I'm holding on to a bolted down guardrail that will be a permanent part of the building, then I feel I would count that 1.1m in total height.

BTW why do they need that guardrail anyway? Is that for service people to actually stand on the pinnacle and view the planet below?

Skytower, for the record, does discuss what is the datum point of land or actual street level of the whole complex and according to his calculations BD will be taller than the claimed heights. Skytower states from that datum point is where official measurments of the building will actually take place. BD's ground floor is perhaps rising from infrustructure that is built up from existing street levels of dubai. Hopefully he can shed some light on where exactly the datum point is from.

Skytower if you did state it before sorry I have forgotten. Don't want to misquote you.:cheers:

All elevation plans of Burj Dubai, starts at 11.5 meters above the (Dubai Municipality) datum point. So shortly the 818 meters figure, does not include this 11.50 meters.

Nice pics!
Does anybody know what they do in crisis situations with BD?

Nice pics!
Does anybody know what they do in crisis situations with BD?

check post #585.

Comon!!!! Its just need to be faster!!

^^ I don't know what are you talking about but the form work on one side of the core is higher then on the other side (personal observation this morning, not related to Imre's updates) and that alone is evidence that the plans are altered and pumping of the concrete will go higher.

one side of the formwork is on 155 and the other one on 156....so i won't be so sure about an increasing of the height

^^ And how are you so sure about the floor numbers?

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Dear God .... ! :eek2: Unbelieavable! This image looks more like science fiction... But it is real. Outstanding. Im planning for a journey to Dubai next year, simply to see this tower from close.

^^ And how are you so sure about the floor numbers?

i count them on the pics ;)

OMG, Altin you`re right. Last week core was L156 and today formwork is one level higher on one side. I didn`t see it before I must be blind:nuts:
How could I go past this pic? :bash: Looks like plans have started to deviate from those we think they are following. I am surprised:D

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9745/imresolt42yv3.jpg

It's harder to tell but you can see it in that nice street shot as well that the core on the leftmost side of the building is higher than the rest (post #647). Thanks Imre for providing us continued updates as we see what happens next with an amazing structure.

OMG, Altin you`re right. Last week core was L156 and today formwork is one level higher on one side. I didn`t see it before I must be blind:nuts:
How could I go past this pic? :bash: Looks like plans have started to deviate from those we think they are following. I am surprised:D

now i see it also....i always counted 1 floor instead of 2 above the 151st ^^. a bit difficult to see

Oh men, we need to watch the next days the progress of the construction... it will be interesting. It's stranger this thing about the level 157 made of concrete...

Oh men, we need to watch the next days the progress of the construction... it will be interesting. It's stranger this thing about the level 157 made of concrete...


OMG IT IS GOING TO BE 1001 METERS!?!?!?!?!?!!?! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:


:lol: Ok, I'm kidding but it will be interesting to see what's going to happen at this point. More concrete would lead us to believe it's going to be a taller building than 818 meters but only time and the people working on Burj Dubai can tell.

the tip of the crane is approx 640m!!!!!!!!!

i guess they will go for the most possible limit. they will build as tall as the foundation can resist the weight. And it would not suprise me if they boost up the wings and build it 1000m tall. Why boosting up the wings? because of proportional reasons.

^^ it's not going to happen. so get that out of your mind

^^ it's not going to happen. so get that out of your mind
Do you really think. i mean this one is the first ever to have the cahnce to exceed this magical mark.

Hey guys and gals,

As much as im longing to see some certain deviation from the 818m plans, lets look at this logically. I would like to propose a couple of things.

Firstly, the design may have been altered slightly to allow the concrete-steel transition to occupy more floors. This may have been done to strengthen the bond between the 2 as it may have been found to be required either after continued wind tunnel/structural tests or because indeed the height of the steel section has been increased and so, again, this bond needs to be strengthened.

The second, and in my mind more likely scenario, is the form work needs to be raised over and above the concrete in order for it to be lifted by cranes. Im no expert but I believe the form work needs to be dismantled into manageable pieces. In order to do this, workers must be able to get to parts of it which can only be accessed once the form work has cleared the concrete.

Hi all.

While I hope like all of us that they have made a change to the plan ( for the taller ) I think it is premature. I think even Emaar official site saying 156 has jumped the gun. I believe the 1/2 of the form jumped up to level 155 Mezz.

See this - You make your own decision.

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/32766/2002473605891740375_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002473605891740375)

:cheers:

Wow, it's really grown since I last saw it...

Hi all.

Here is some pile prints showing the 1.5 meter dia. tower piles. From the upper elevation print we can see the top of the raft is at -3.75 Dubai Municipal Datum. The elevation numbers from the tower plans show it at -15.25. AltinD beat me to the punch saying the Ground level at 0.00 is 11.50 meters above the DMD.

Pile layout - 192 piles

http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/32845/2004792820110414825_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004792820110414825)

Upper elevation

http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/32845/2004774834947360091_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004774834947360091)

Lower elevation

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/32964/2004745709207535794_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004745709207535794)

Pile section

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/34062/2004752268033976444_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004752268033976444)

Waterproofing

http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/30929/2004766558862595620_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004766558862595620)

Pile head

http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/33071/2004790026812819505_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004790026812819505)

Enjoy. :cheers:

WOW!!
fun stuff Fury!
thanks.

yes, core appears to be reaching lev156 slab. so right on schedule. unreal pix imre.

Hi all.

While I hope like all of us that they have made a change to the plan ( for the taller ) I think it is premature. I think even Emaar official site saying 156 has jumped the gun. I believe the 1/2 of the form jumped up to level 155 Mezz.

See this - You make your own decision.

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/32766/2002473605891740375_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002473605891740375)

:cheers: that pic is old. that's why it doesnt show level 156

Hey Helghast.

When you collect as many pics as I do you can tell me what is what - OK :ohno:. The pic I used is from Oct 25.

The tower hasn't risen since before Oct 21.

07 10 31

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/32025/2001106924333099762_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001106924333099762)

07 10 24

http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/33674/2001114587169107840_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001114587169107840)

07 10 21

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/32826/2002089514638434646_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002089514638434646)

07 10 15

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/33878/2001118193845920022_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001118193845920022)

Have a good one. :cheers:

I noticed the metal 'guides' on the side of the Burj for the form work have been removed in the pic dated 31st of Oct. I wonder if this is routine or if the form work will no longer move up...

Hey Helghast.

When you collect as many pics as I do you can tell me what is what - OK :ohno:. The pic I used is from Oct 25.

The tower hasn't risen since before Oct 21.


so your saying it's not possable for it to rise from the 25 to the 31. that's 6DAYS. it had to rise higher

^not really. the top levels are different in plan so its slows construction progress.

so it's still 155

pinnacle detail.
apparently they have reduced the size of the small fins on the 50m pinnacle due to potential noise.
checkout the pinnacle hatch. It meausures 1.5m dia and 1.2m high (819.4m) and has 3x powerful beacon lights.
fury-mentioned this before.
why isnt height to top of safety ring? =819.2m?

cheers

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8629/burjspire1hg9.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6821/burjspireelvati8192mjpgvk5.jpg

Hi Cul.

Nice work on that spire shot. It's nearly all black in the PDF. First time I've seen it. I think the guardrail is 1100 mm above the platform or have they changed the plan ? Add up the numbers on the right side of this detail print.

http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/33748/2001458256353525653_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001458256353525653)

I agree that it should be included in the height.

:cheers:

i have a plan dated sept24 ;-)
i think the aircraft beacons reach 100mm above guard rail. thus the 1.2m extra.(see diagram)
its all good.
i vote for 819m!!!! (2687feet)

Sweet. 1.2 it is then. The plan I have is from July 24.

Sept 24 - where can one get that ?

Any other new goodies in it ?

what are the dimensions of the fins and what's their purpose?

ive got more info on fins ect and purpose but the document is at work and im home now til monday. ill post more then.
cheers

So what's the consensus on the number of floors? The board says 157, some say 155, some say 156...

That floor count is complicated:nuts: I am confused now too. So 1/3 of formwork is on L156 and 2/3 of formwork are on L155M? Definitly is not L157.

if i remember the fins will have an aerofoil shape and extend approx .5m from pinnacle and total 2.1m long. i also think they will be back lit.so they should look spectacular @ nite.
Also, the plans i were privelged to view were stamped FINAL DESIGN.
So i reckon we should always quote its height as 819m or 835m above slab!
cheers big ears.:banana:

hmmmm. Cullwulla. What are the purpose off those fins on the burj???

Many thanks for awnsering.

Cheers :cheers1:

Hey James, the fins are used to disrupt the air flowing past the spire as this creates vortices which produce an enormous amount of drag. The byproduct is a similar sound to trees howling in the wind, hence the info we have received advising they have been shortened to minimise this.

That floor count is complicated:nuts: I am confused now too. So 1/3 of formwork is on L156 and 2/3 of formwork are on L155M? Definitly is not L157.

i give the counting up now :lol:, i'll wait what happens in the next weeks :)

The floor count is still at 156 :D

I wonder that there is no flag on top of the pinnacle... :cheers:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7127/imresolt49uv8.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt49uv8.jpg)

Ok, but what with this?

^^ thats the # 157, it comes after # 156 and before # 158

Its also a Prime #. :D

I bought a swedish fact book today and it says this about Burj Dubai:

Height: 643 meters. With Spire 808.

That's a huge spire! :)
:tiasd:

^^ the ACTUAL spire does start at 643m. but there's actual building structure around it. not like the petrona towers

but there's actual building structure around it. not like the petrona towers
So the defenition of a spire is when the concrete ends? What's the defenition of a spire? :|

no not when the concret end's. but were it actual doesnt have any structure around it. just the spire it's self. sticking out of the building. that would be my Def of a spire. why would you count it, if you can't see the portion that's inside of structure that's built around it.

Here's what i mean, the circle section
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8724/burjdubaitopoutzz6tttggha8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

If a building has an "enclosed" section above roof, the official height is to top of this. eg-plant room ,dome ect. Thus the top 40 floors of spire section of Burj Dubai will be counted as height. the pinnacle starts from tier27 or 768m. so if you were to ask what is Burj dubais height without spire it would be 768m. BUT since 1996 the CTBUH have included spires with overall height ,thus official height of Burj Dubai will be 819m. ;-)
cupesh

no not when the concret end's. but were it actual doesnt have any structure around it. just the spire it's self. sticking out of the building. that would be my Def of a spire. why would you count it, if you can't see the portion that's inside of structure that's built around it.

Here's what i mean, the circle section
That's also what I mean with the spire. I can't understand how people can say and write that the spire starts at 643 meters! :ohno:

I can't understand how people can say and write that the spire starts at 643 meters! :ohno:

If you had a dollar for every person who says or writes something misinformed about this tower, you could quit your job :cheers:

Great, now we get to watch the steel rise!

If you had a dollar for every person who says or writes something misinformed about this tower, you could quit your job :cheers:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:


Official height is what counts now, BD is a whole including its spire, i will definitively look uncomplete without it...

Will there be a chance BD will still go higher?

I dont think so. 818 (or 819:) ) is way enough. It beats Taipei 101 by more than 300m:nuts:

I found it:) more pics in the Al Burj thread

location:next to the Jumeirah Lakes Towers

02/November/2007

Al Burj


soil testing

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8032/imresolt205jh8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3401/imresolt202qp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

02/November/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1754/imresolt02kz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9743/imresolt42da1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


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:banana2::banana2::banana2:

If this is true, this is madness i cant believe it! This is the tower of almost 3450ft!! It is for this reason that Burj Dubai is still pouring concrete on top!

The fight has started!

02/November/2007

Burj Dubai and camels

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5054/imresolt24qk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3127/imresolt28bz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6634/imresolt22lo4.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt22lo4.jpg)http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8122/imresolt23fp5.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt23fp5.jpg)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8868/imresolt25gv3.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt25gv3.jpg)http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5821/imresolt26qv4.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt26qv4.jpg)http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/601/imresolt27aa4.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt27aa4.jpg)http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6730/imresolt29kq4.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt29kq4.jpg)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4821/imresolt30eb9.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt30eb9.jpg)

:lol::lol::lol:
Best shots you ever made Imre, love the camels!!!:nuts::rofl:

look at those camels, the poor beasts get tormented by buzzing flies :uh:
what do the camels do there, I wonder? Those aren't actually wild camels???

edit:
uh... the pics of the Burj look good too :lol:

Did you feed them your bears to keep them happy Imre? :D

OK, floor count once again. I am sure that I am right this time:D
Floor above the lowest tier on the right is L144. Than up 4 floors and floor above tier on the left is L148. On the side of the core where 4 square openings are, last level below the formwork is L154. Above that are only L155 and L155M (both hidden under the formwork) So top of construction is now still L156 (end of concrete if they haven`t changed the plans) Interesting as hell:cheers:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6460/imresolt17iy7wo9.jpg

02/November/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4332/imresolt143hz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7052/imresolt145az0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6436/imresolt104xi0.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt104xi0.jpg)http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1947/imresolt137tn8.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt137tn8.jpg)
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8151/imresolt146xl7.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt146xl7.jpg)http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8811/imresolt147cz0.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt147cz0.jpg)

Amazing update and photo Imre...

:cheers:

Armani sales job finished.: gone on 60 secs.

http://i2.tinypic.com/6c632as.jpg

http://i8.tinypic.com/54kf9kn.jpg

2nd November pics

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/31966/2005639195445727707_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005639195445727707)

http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/34031/2005697309055422313_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005697309055422313)

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/30470/2005659247689138674_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005659247689138674)

http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/34401/2005651940685807996_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005651940685807996)

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/34056/2005657720088243947_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005657720088243947)

http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/31757/2005630032901800816_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005630032901800816)

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/33376/2005632426681569853_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005632426681569853)

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/31571/2005626505058215207_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005626505058215207)

OK, floor count once again. I am sure that I am right this time:D
... So top of construction is now still L156 (end of concrete if they haven`t changed the plans) Interesting as hell:cheers:
...


Yes, I'd agree! So Burj Dubai is still on level 156. But still there's a chance that the concrete part will go on without steel frame. I wonder if already the first steel beams or parts of the top crane have arrived at the site. If not, it might only tell that there's still enough concrete work to do... I guess the 7 missing levels of the tier 12 wing will need at least two weeks alone, for instance.

By the way, that's a great shot by Imre showing the north face, which is taken less frequently on close-up views than the sunny south face.

And the second pic of your street panorama confused me at first... before recognizing that it's also inverted, like the rearviewmirror shot above. But of course thanx a lot for this one, Imre, and for all the other great pictures, too (including Old Town Resident)! :bow:

is it already possible, to get interior pics from appartments, where the facade is already installed?

Would be nice ;)

Hi all.

Here is some pile prints showing the 1.5 meter dia. tower piles.....

Woooooo - do you have this for the Chicago Spire ?

Odd not belling at the bottom.

02/November/2007

Burj Dubai

[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4332/imresolt143hz2.jpg

Translation - Objects in mirror may be taller than they appear.

Just...amazing!

Hi all.

Nice shots as always Imre. You too Oldtown.

Urban.Kovac - Yes you are correct - as I also said a few thread pages ago. They are pouring / working on level 155 Mezzanine.

Harryc - No sorry I don't have near the info on the spire as this magnificent structure. Maybe no bell because they are skin friction piles not down to bedrock. :dunno:

:cheers:

This building is gonna be great :cheers: I just must visit Dubai after it'll be finished :) Keeping fingers crossed for this awesome project.

is it already possible, to get interior pics from appartments, where the facade is already installed?

Would be nice ;)

as far as i know there's only 1 test-appartement already

Everytime I look at this thread it just seems to get higher and higher, its bloody amazing.

When will the building finish????? 4th. Quartal 2008 or later ??????

i love the cladding

Burj Dubai photos by Toufic Araman:

http://aramanstudio.com/burj.htm

Yes, I'd agree! So Burj Dubai is still on level 156. But still there's a chance that the concrete part will go on without steel frame. I wonder if already the first steel beams or parts of the top crane have arrived at the site. If not, it might only tell that there's still enough concrete work to do... I guess the 7 missing levels of the tier 12 wing will need at least two weeks alone, for instance.

By the way, that's a great shot by Imre showing the north face, which is taken less frequently on close-up views than the sunny south face.

And the second pic of your street panorama confused me at first... before recognizing that it's also inverted, like the rearviewmirror shot above. But of course thanx a lot for this one, Imre, and for all the other great pictures, too (including Old Town Resident)! :bow:

No crane ready go up or down, or any steelwork stored on the site today, and I was almost everywhere in the Burj vicinity.

Armani sales job finished.: gone on 60 secs.

http://i2.tinypic.com/6c632as.jpg


I was one of the lucky to get one.. haha

^^ Of course not, the big ship with the bulk cargo hasn't arrived from Korea yet. I heard it was delayed/re-scheduled a number of times.

WHO? Me?

as far as i know there's only 1 test-appartement already

well, for me it would be enough to have some nice shots from this appartment....:)

plz, anybody ;) :)

Amazzzzziiinnnggg..... :drool::master:

WHO? Me?

Nah, your post appearing above mine is just a well-known forum software glitch, coused by the different time zone clock configurations.

Anyone have any idea why it's taking them so long to build this last batch of floors?

Oh men, the Imre's photos are the best of all the time, these shots are differents from the other. Perfect work Imre. The Burj looks very nice and tall now :cheers:

Anyone have any idea why it's taking them so long to build this last batch of floors?

Maybe they change plans to make it taller. I dont know.

From moving from concrete to steal may be a big challange and they need to do it carefully. Also, you may have notice that the sides need to catch up with the past of the top. My guess these 2 factors has cause the top from growing but it should not be too long before the next floor is up. :)

great picture! amazing building!

Hi all.

Pbase - Sarah Makepeace - construction shots from near the same angle:

05 07, 05 11, 06 02, 06 04, 06 09, 06 12, 07 01, 07 03, 07 05, 07 08

http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/31067/2001823271428264371_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001823271428264371)http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/32637/2001822831527847743_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001822831527847743)http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/31853/2001826932523485349_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001826932523485349)http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/33562/2001878501151317240_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001878501151317240)http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/32620/2001868479550832861_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001868479550832861)http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/32620/2001815193775900953_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001815193775900953)http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/33967/2001899525843484001_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001899525843484001)http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/32632/2001814022792495551_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001814022792495551)http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/33443/2001841093167140814_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001841093167140814)http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/33443/2001837971639333048_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001837971639333048)

Flickr - kkair - 07 10 26

http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/33984/2003621190474660132_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003621190474660132)

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/33426/2003646948220300656_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003646948220300656)

Picasa - Kristen - 07 10 30

http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/34395/2003686980620497099_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003686980620497099)

Flickr - trizniak - 07 11 02

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/32942/2003680212205947933_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003680212205947933)

More stuff for anyone wondering about naming convention:

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/32661/2003641102233126504_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003641102233126504)

http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/32048/2003660216722772969_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003660216722772969)

Enjoy. :cheers:

Hey Imre. Are you Burj Dubai 2010 at Flickr ? Your shots are being posted there. They have your watermark so I guess no biggie. :dunno:

Wow... Amazzing skyline... love it,

how far Burj Dubai from the river?

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/32942/2003680212205947933_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003680212205947933)

burj dubai is 3km from coast/. not sure about river.

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/32942/2003680212205947933_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003680212205947933)

wow ... its glow in the dark...

it will be nice if its done!!!

Burj Dubai is currently nearly 600m, eventually 800m+, thus 6/8s height or 3/4 built.
just amazing.
Im about to start on a diagram which shows the progression of worlds tallest building since 1860;s. should be really interesting to see progression right up to 2009 with mighty BurjD.

started with NYC then Chicago, then NYC, then Chicago, then Kuala Lumpur, then Taiwan then Dubai! who woulda thought?
Nostradamas predicted such things- "beware of the east". they will rule the world again!

I'm no expert on high-rise construction by any means, but I'd assume they'd remove all the upper concrete formwork (once it's set) before beginning the steel work...

I can't see them leaving it on and letting it get in the way...

I imagine they're currently giving the core all the time they can within the forms to cure up, because they're soon going to be bolting on a multi-ton crane to it, and don't want any accidents. So having said that, you might see it like this for a little while longer...

In the near future they will remove those 2 cranes right? But if they remove them and install only 1 crane. How will they manage to fetch up the steel beams the cladding panels and other needed construction material?

Is it possible that they first remain at this height until the cladding catch up?

Wow... Amazzing skyline... love it,

how far Burj Dubai from the river?

That's not a river that's a lagoune at the tipping end of an natural (sea) creek going deep inland. The same sea creek that it is being extended and it will even be connected back to the sea on the other side, creating a free flow canal.

The extended creek will pass some 1 km away at the nearest point.