RON-E
August 8th, 2008, 04:06 AM
thats the first time i have seen the previous design for the burj, the one being built is the best!
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RON-E August 8th, 2008, 04:06 AM thats the first time i have seen the previous design for the burj, the one being built is the best! CULWULLA August 8th, 2008, 05:13 AM what? thats it? thats like the height of the Cn tower... why isnt it higher the MAIN observation deck of CN Tower is 340m and revolve restaurant-350m. The tiny space deck is 447m. The lev124 observaton deck planned for Burj Dubai is huge. it is indoor and outdoor terrace.at 442m. not sure if you would see more of dubai if you had ob deck at 500m or even 600m? maybe more dust? better off closer to ground with a large floor plate for public use. leogodoy August 8th, 2008, 05:40 AM Sydney Airport is still open to emergencies and aircraft either not required to conform to the noise abatement rules or willing to pay the subsequent fines :lol: so I'd say it would still be necessary for aircraft warning lights to be installed in locations where they are required :cool: I think Sydney is generally an exception world-wide though, most airports are available 24/7. Another exception being Sao Paulo-Congonhas (CGH/SBSP), closed from 11h30-6h. But that is operating now more as a domestic flights-only airport. velbujd August 8th, 2008, 08:19 AM This is section 20B is very complexity construction. Imre August 8th, 2008, 08:19 AM 07/Aug/2008 Burj Dubai small fire there.. http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1584/imresolt009xq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8049/imresolt012ra9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3516/imresolt028zq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9696/imresolt030pk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6885/imresolt071pn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1156/imresolt092ca7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/311/imresolt100qi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6287/imresolt109nf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2032/imresolt184ub0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7571/imresolt203en6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2010/imresolt229uv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/158/imresolt249as9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) 295 new pics of Burj Dubai and Burj Dubai Downtown area here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157606606458327/ if not enough , 299 pics of Business Bay: http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157606602179584/ and 51 photos of SZR and DIFC: http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157606605827845/ Jude12 August 8th, 2008, 08:53 AM Massive Update Imre. Thanks. :D GreenMonk108 August 8th, 2008, 08:59 AM It looks like the top floor only fit for a room.:) ZZ-II August 8th, 2008, 09:00 AM thx Imre, wonderful update!! btw...was that the first fire on the BD Itself? AltinD August 8th, 2008, 10:41 AM It looks like the top floor only fit for a room.:) First of all, the area up there will not be habitable, and second for a better perspective check the pic below where a worker around 1.7 meters tall is also shown: http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9696/imresolt030pk8.jpg Buyckske Ruben August 8th, 2008, 10:55 AM Imre always doiing a good job! :) Very nice pics! Good progress...the definite shape is coming. The top will be amazing, like a sharp knife cutting the clouds! :cheers: Spartan_X August 8th, 2008, 11:21 AM are there any new photos from the inside ? Dequal August 8th, 2008, 11:23 AM Nice update once again! Deepfield August 8th, 2008, 11:28 AM Hi everyone ! :) As you can see, I'm new on this fantastic forum. I'm visiting skyscrapercity for 2 years, and I finally decide to register. I would say about Burj Dubaï that it is a fantastic skyscraper, and I'm following it construction for 2 years also. Fantastic updates as always Imre ! Note : I'm very sorry for my bad english, i'm a young french guy and I'm still learning it. :) christos-greece August 8th, 2008, 11:59 AM Amazing update :) Burj Dubai gets more and more better :cheers: The structure is almost to finish... when they expect to completely finish the tower? Anyone has pics from inside? I want to see them too ;) Dequal August 8th, 2008, 12:03 PM Amazing update :) Burj Dubai gets more and more better :cheers: The structure is almost to finish... when they expect to completely finish the tower? Anyone has pics from inside? I want to see them too ;) Top out in december of this year, and the tower itself in 2009 Pablobegood August 8th, 2008, 02:26 PM Anyone has pics from inside? I want to see them too ;) Try from this site, march 2008 update from Imre. :cheers: Pablobegood August 8th, 2008, 04:06 PM ^^ I forgot the link, sorry :ohno: :| Here is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157604314846373/ LoverOfDubai August 8th, 2008, 08:14 PM Hi everyone ! :) As you can see, I'm new on this fantastic forum. I'm visiting skyscrapercity for 2 years, and I finally decide to register. I would say about Burj Dubaï that it is a fantastic skyscraper, and I'm following it construction for 2 years also. Fantastic updates as always Imre ! Note : I'm very sorry for my bad english, i'm a young french guy and I'm still learning it. :) Bienvenue, Deepfield! unknownquinones August 9th, 2008, 01:29 AM Watch this Codename Asero, I see Burj Dubai. Look at that video in the link below from 10:00 to 10:40 http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1535103358mkkYgS Infrasuper Planet August 9th, 2008, 02:34 AM wow, great update imre!! The Pinnacle is really starting to take shape now :D Fury August 9th, 2008, 03:47 AM Hi all. Great update Imre. Another big day for BD pics - 330 for the collection. Just over 19,500 pics of this mighty structure. :) Does anyone know where Bikes is ? Is he gone on holidays ? I made a new ver. ( 4 ) of my plan - just minor changes - included the spire sections of tiers 18 to 23. Also some minor wording changes and a few more prints. It grew from 11 to 12 pages. When bikes is back ( ? ), checks his email, and updates his site I will let you guys know ( if anyone is interested ... ) :cheers: Swiddle August 9th, 2008, 04:32 AM 07/Aug/2008 Burj Dubai small fire there.. I noticed that dark area when OTR posted pictures on August 3rd (post #8855) and wondered at the time if it was smoke damage or just a reflection/shadow. So the fire must have happened on or before that date. Will be interesting to see if that cladding gets replaced. Hopefully a good window cleaning is all that is needed. Spandex August 9th, 2008, 06:15 AM magnificent!!!!!!:banana: long time no post (my posts have not had any constructive purpose anyway)but i'we been here everyday anyway (like most of us?) but i would like to thank everyone to keep this site up and going, and OTR that has come in strong in imre's absence (spelling???) even though imre is still going strong one question does anyone have the thread for the building in these pics with the "bubble" windows?????? have seen it before but cant relocate the thread, holy damn interesting building, not sure though if it is cool and, to stay on topic, I am feeling a bit fuzzy in my mind to start witnessing the spire construction, seems like ever when this topic was first brought up, years ago, and the spire seemed to be in the distant future. loving tha speed of construction, and that this fire thing has been brought under control without major damage. :cheers: altin,cul,imre,otr,fury, and the rest of the bradybunch = THANX, you make my days so more bearable BSD August 9th, 2008, 06:30 AM This is SUPER HUGE building ever seen! Bloody awesome highrise structure. Dubai is so lucky to get that giant footprint on planet lol! Old Town Resident August 9th, 2008, 09:42 AM This is the link Spandex http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=397296 buildmilehightower August 9th, 2008, 09:45 AM ^^ also the stadium in Beijing next to the bird's nest (which is probaly not a building) back to the topic... Dequal August 9th, 2008, 11:14 AM This is the link Spandex http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=397296 Cool building isn't it! I featured it on my website a couple of days ago. :banana: Bikes August 9th, 2008, 11:28 AM Does anyone know where Bikes is ? Is he gone on holidays ? I made a new ver. ( 4 ) of my plan - just minor changes - included the spire sections of tiers 18 to 23. Also some minor wording changes and a few more prints. It grew from 11 to 12 pages. When bikes is back ( ? ), checks his email, and updates his site I will let you guys know ( if anyone is interested ... ) :cheers: Holidays! :cheers: Back now... :banana: Taufiq August 9th, 2008, 05:49 PM http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/958/45375152wf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) CMack August 9th, 2008, 05:50 PM Hi everyone ! :) As you can see, I'm new on this fantastic forum. I'm visiting skyscrapercity for 2 years, and I finally decide to register. I would say about Burj Dubaï that it is a fantastic skyscraper, and I'm following it construction for 2 years also. Fantastic updates as always Imre ! Note : I'm very sorry for my bad english, i'm a young french guy and I'm still learning it. :) Welcome! No worries, your English is better than a lot of Americans' [honestly] :lol: Have fun :cheers: Tom_Green August 9th, 2008, 06:01 PM Taufig, could it be that you focused on the car :D christos-greece August 9th, 2008, 07:08 PM ^^ I forgot the link, sorry :ohno: :| Here is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157604314846373/ Awesome! http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/12953230.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/2373239341/ buildmilehightower August 9th, 2008, 07:26 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnE-NbPCp_g Imre video of BD on 7th august. thaproducer August 9th, 2008, 07:59 PM omg ^ DUBAI ^ August 9th, 2008, 09:55 PM http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_0601.jpg http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_0602.jpg Mega pics!:banana: DinoVabec August 9th, 2008, 10:08 PM Crazy shots... That last one looks like winter in Dubai...:lol: AltinD August 9th, 2008, 10:21 PM http://i37.tinypic.com/wuhv28.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/6qbrkm.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/nvy73n.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/ejhc45.jpg Bikes August 9th, 2008, 10:22 PM Mega pics!:banana: Please reupload them to another place or use thumbnails, otherwise it kills my server. AltinD August 9th, 2008, 10:23 PM Steel levels cladding: http://i35.tinypic.com/4res8n.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/1g0n85.jpg With the Business Bay Skyline http://i35.tinypic.com/fwp3ex.jpg With the Sheik Zayed Road Skyline http://i38.tinypic.com/zlxe0h.jpg Dubai_Boy August 9th, 2008, 10:36 PM last images on page 452 are out of this world :D:D:D 3rd pic by Altind above my post is awesome too :P i love those BB towers Rutger1991 August 9th, 2008, 11:10 PM Nice updates everyone!!!!!!:okay:^^ the sock August 10th, 2008, 12:16 AM amazing pics Fury August 10th, 2008, 01:16 AM Hi all. Great pics guys. I have made version 4 of my Burj Dubai Plan. I added the spire sections for tiers 18 to 23, made some wording changes, and added a few prints. Minor changes but if anyone is interested go to http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/ on the facts page to get it. I highly recommend that everyone check out and support this site. It is bar none - the best source of pics and info on the Burj Dubai. :cheers: Mplsuptown August 10th, 2008, 01:37 AM Really impressive. I'm really rather astonished that something like this can be built. Architecture today seems to have no limits, what with what's being built here and other places like Shanghai and the Bejing Olympic stadiums/arenas. Truely an amazing time. As I was just looking at those pictures above I had a bit of an inner laugh when I used to read so often about when are they going to start putting on the glass/cladding, page after page, and here we are today. Again really impressive. CrazyDave August 10th, 2008, 02:53 AM I'm thinking that they will only clad the first few floors of Steel for now. Since the first few Steel floors will be occupied space. :):):) LoverOfDubai August 10th, 2008, 03:54 AM Steel from historic East German palace used to build Burj Dubai By Arno Maierbrugger, Sub Editor 10 August 2008, 00:02 Dubai: Steel nowadays is a scarce commodity. This is the reason why, curiously enough, part of the iron structure of former East German leader Erich Honecker's seat of government, Palast der Republik in Berlin, has found its way to Dubai. The steel has been recycled and partly used for the construction of the world's tallest building, Burj Dubai. Berlin's daily newspaper Der Tagesspiegel revealed that the demolition of the Palast delivered some 25,000 tonnes of used steel. The material was transported to a smelting plant south of Berlin, where the iron girders were cut and melted down into handy blocks. The steel is not only used by German car manufacturer Volkswagen to mould engine blocks, but is also sold by steel dealers to various construction sites in the world. Dubai, of course, tops the customer list. Scrap dealer Henryk Wetzel told the newspaper that the recycled steel is picked up by a commodity broker, shipped via the Atlantic and Mediterranean Sea to Istanbul and then bought by a Turkish company that manufactures steel girders for the Burj Dubai tower. The Palast der Republik was built in 1976 and is currently being demolished. The process will be complete by the end of this year. The palace was dubbed 'Erich's lamp shop' by Berliners because of the 1,001 lamps that once hung in the main hall. Many Berliners prefer to see the building conserved as a museum. http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/08/08/10/10235912.html helghast August 10th, 2008, 04:29 AM i'd say out of the 25,000 tonnes, the burj is using around 15,000 tonnes ZZ-II August 10th, 2008, 05:35 AM A piece of Berlin in the Burj Dubai, cooooool :cheers: btw..awesome shots Altin :okay: tahir.DDS August 10th, 2008, 06:19 AM these are nice picture the speed is great and really fast ,but i do think even with that speed,the burj dubai area will take another 3 year to take it's final shape drew.magoo August 10th, 2008, 06:54 AM thanks for the updates guys, great pics and thank you for the update on the tier methodology fury, that will come in handy ^_^ Spartan_X August 10th, 2008, 08:35 AM Steel is a scarce commodity nowdays? I wasnt aware of that. Why is this happening? Bikes August 10th, 2008, 09:41 AM Mega pics!:banana: I'm sorry i had to rename them for the sake of the server, they can be still viewed on this page though: http://burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/2008August.html buildmilehightower August 10th, 2008, 10:16 AM http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_07252.jpg I like this angle, you can see the thinning well. Downfallen August 10th, 2008, 10:18 AM Its looking a bit 'blocky' and it doesnt have that same 'soar' it used to for me now its tapering to a finish ,and its easier to visualise the final product. Maybe the spire will make that look a little better. Krattle August 10th, 2008, 12:42 PM Just like with the unclad concrete the "true" shape of the steel section won't be totally visible until it is clad - nothing has changed. It retains the same curvature. Downfallen August 10th, 2008, 03:30 PM Just like with the unclad concrete the "true" shape of the steel section won't be totally visible until it is clad - nothing has changed. It retains the same curvature. I mean the whole structure...not just the steel section. helghast August 10th, 2008, 05:51 PM 700m~ mark http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5183/burjdubai07252h5h54h45hmb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5183/burjdubai07252h5h54h45hmb9.69f49f97e2.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=390&i=burjdubai07252h5h54h45hmb9.jpg) redstone August 10th, 2008, 06:33 PM Must be very windy up there. Dequal August 10th, 2008, 07:03 PM Must be very windy up there. And the tower can sweep 1-2 metres from one side to another. :) christos-greece August 10th, 2008, 07:10 PM Must be very windy up there. 819m above sea-level indeed! :nuts: Deepfield August 10th, 2008, 07:29 PM The updates of that last three pages are absolutely stunning ! :cheers: Thanks to all the photographers ! :okay: Good to see cladding on the steel structure. Dequal August 10th, 2008, 07:32 PM Yeah. ;) Those workes really want to finish the Burj as fast as possible :banana: AltinD August 10th, 2008, 09:04 PM Steel is a scarce commodity now days? I wasnt aware of that. Why is this happening? Everything is a scarce commodity now-days, not only oil. From steel and cement to grain and rice. :nuts: redstone August 10th, 2008, 09:06 PM 819m above sea-level indeed! :nuts: Reminds me of the time when I climbed my first mountain at 15 which is "only" 800m tall. To think I'll be able to take a lift up 800m one day. droneriot August 10th, 2008, 09:12 PM Everything is a scarce commodity now-days, Everything except soylent green, we're producing thousands of tons of that every hour of every day. Dequal August 10th, 2008, 09:48 PM Everything except soylent green, we're producing thousands of tons of that every hour of every day. Even building-cranes and tower-cranes: Dubai has more than 60% of all the tower-cranes in the world! AltinD August 10th, 2008, 10:32 PM ^^ That number is an exageration, even the early much-famous and talked about figure of 20% might have been an exageration too. b1gh0u5e August 10th, 2008, 10:39 PM A couple of questions: Does anyone know how long it takes the crane operator to get from say the construction entrance where he clocks in to his post atop the tower? Are the windows on the upper floors being hung in a certain order due to the wind patterns up there or is it just whenever that area is ready for installation? Thanks for answers in advance. Fury August 10th, 2008, 11:22 PM Hi all. 2 more from to go with the aerials from a few pages ago - fantastic shots. burjdubaiskyscraper.com - David Hobcote - 08 08 02 http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9792/0808026siteaerialnj8.jpg http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9919/0808027siteaerialvg9.jpg :cheers: Rutger1991 August 10th, 2008, 11:30 PM :omg: WOW, amazing shots!!!!!!!!!! ^^ :righton::master::master::master::master::master::master::righton: helghast August 10th, 2008, 11:32 PM Fury what aerials from a few pages ago ? Btw great aerials SirAdrian August 10th, 2008, 11:43 PM Very nice, what an elegant building at actually is. Khanabadosh August 10th, 2008, 11:55 PM :eek2::bow::bow::bow: i_like_concrete August 10th, 2008, 11:57 PM utterly amazing, it's hard to find words for a view like that... but those lakes look radioactive! Gherkin August 10th, 2008, 11:59 PM Yeah what's going on with those lakes? Are those green base-sheets to stop the water going into the sand below? Dennis August 11th, 2008, 01:06 AM ok, whats what i call BIG good lord :eek: :eek2: zoomzoom August 11th, 2008, 01:17 AM Those aerial shots are SO impressive! The shape of the base looks so nice from up there. CULWULLA August 11th, 2008, 01:18 AM great shots imre. i see the lev124 outdoor ob deck is straight below in this shot (highest rounded tier facing us) http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9792/0808026siteaerialnj8.jpg Fury August 11th, 2008, 01:39 AM Fury what aerials from a few pages ago ? Btw great aerials Go to burjdubaiskyscraper.com/photos/Aug. - all 4 of them are there. :cheers: /-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8 August 11th, 2008, 02:04 AM OH YEHA GRAT PHOTOS:banana::bow::eek2::applause: no_gods August 11th, 2008, 04:13 AM OMG thoses pictures are unreal :eek: Riverofmoltensteel August 11th, 2008, 07:06 AM That is truly breath taking.... Really Big SHIT.... buildmilehightower August 11th, 2008, 08:46 AM ^^ that shots proably from 819 metres high up in the sky, same view as sitting down on top of the spire and looking down. http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_0903.jpg the 15th floor looks very ready now, should expect next floor begin end of this week. baalberith304 August 11th, 2008, 09:02 AM http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9792/0808026siteaerialnj8.jpg What is this green area on the left on this picture? It's not a grass, isn't it? It's too bright. ZZ-II August 11th, 2008, 09:08 AM that's the old town, and the green is water ^^ Dubai_Boy August 11th, 2008, 09:08 AM They are shooting a ninja turtles movie there so maybe that has something to do with it ! firoz bharmal August 11th, 2008, 09:14 AM from where u have taken that photo? Capn Jef August 11th, 2008, 09:32 AM from where u have taken that photo? Where? I think I could get it in 3 guesses. Skymyhusband August 11th, 2008, 10:14 AM I'd wish to know how much it sways at the top when windy ^^ AltinD August 11th, 2008, 10:16 AM ^^ They say it will be 1.2 meters in each direction Skymyhusband August 11th, 2008, 10:17 AM That's a 2.4m amplitude ^^ :Sick: Deepfield August 11th, 2008, 10:40 AM Fantastic aerial shots ! :applause::applause::applause: I think that a photo taken from one of the cranes would be good one also. Dequal August 11th, 2008, 12:11 PM Where? I think I could get it in 3 guesses. A helicopter, an airplane or a U.F.O. :) Old Town Resident August 11th, 2008, 12:41 PM A helicopter, an airplane or a U.F.O. :) ^^ LOL, The other Worlds Tallest Structure ever next door:cheers: _BPS_ August 11th, 2008, 12:55 PM http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/958/45375152wf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) nice pic, what car is that.. r-10? dubaidubai04 August 11th, 2008, 01:07 PM audi r8 mate OMH August 11th, 2008, 04:32 PM This is an amazing pic just stunnung:eek2: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9792/0808026siteaerialnj8.jpg So the construction is nearing end now, since its at 685 m , i'd say that it should take another 4-5 months or so, but i'm not sure, does anybody knows when construction will end? According to Wikipedia sometimes in 2009. Shahid August 11th, 2008, 05:23 PM ^^^^ I cant even see people in this pic!!! Old Town Resident August 11th, 2008, 05:25 PM http://i36.tinypic.com/neyzgy.jpg:cheers: ZZ-II August 11th, 2008, 05:31 PM This is an amazing pic just stunnung:eek2: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9792/0808026siteaerialnj8.jpg So the construction is nearing end now, since its at 685 m , i'd say that it should take another 4-5 months or so, but i'm not sure, does anybody knows when construction will end? According to Wikipedia sometimes in 2009. completion is planned for August-September 2009, so still one year. topping out before the end of this year :) jlh630 August 11th, 2008, 06:35 PM What does this bring the current height to? ~690 m? ZZ-II August 11th, 2008, 06:39 PM 688.1m to be correct :) ericlewis91 August 11th, 2008, 09:42 PM 688.1m to be correct :) when does the building stop? and the attenna start? buildmilehightower August 11th, 2008, 10:28 PM 688.1 metres is correct. Actually the spire installation and the steel floor process sort of overlaps, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH19J8ZF4Bk 5:54 to 6:13 The spire is 128 metres tall on its own and 560 tonnes heavy. The spire looks like it will start to root itself as soon as 19th floor is completed which is first floor or 22nd tier which also is just after 700 metre mark has been passed. So one more tier to go or 2 floors. glassNsteel August 11th, 2008, 11:05 PM 688.1 metres is correct. Actually the spire installation and the steel floor process sort of overlaps, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH19J8ZF4Bk 5:54 to 6:13 The spire is 128 metres tall on its own and 560 tonnes heavy. The spire looks like it will start to root itself as soon as 19th floor is completed which is first floor or 22nd tier which also is just after 700 metre mark has been passed. So one more tier to go or 2 floors. thanks for that...interested to know what kind of additional structural elements are added at the floor/level the spire will be rooted into. anyone know? buildmilehightower August 11th, 2008, 11:10 PM Apart from steel structure, I don't know particularly. But it will not be for habitable purpose for sure, but for communication mainly. And now that 16th floor started, this is the height where the highest crane stops jumping for the rest of the time, sad. glassNsteel August 11th, 2008, 11:32 PM Apart from steel structure, I don't know particularly. But it will not be for habitable purpose for sure, but for communication mainly. And now that 16th floor started, this is the height where the highest crane stops jumping for the rest of the time, sad. right. i was more thinking whether the spire bolt plates would be subject to "uplift" due to wind sway (and what they've done about it) since the spire cross section is much smaller than the comm. floors. may be they laterally brace to the adjacet floor plate all the way up for the duration it is still within the comm. floors? unmentioned August 11th, 2008, 11:37 PM Is there any kind of transit in Dubai? Or is it just Los Angeles 2.0, totally auto-centric? LeMoN-SK August 12th, 2008, 12:00 AM Is there any kind of transit in Dubai? Or is it just Los Angeles 2.0, totally auto-centric? From what I know, there is a big Dubai Metro project going on just now, but I don't know when it should start to operate... CULWULLA August 12th, 2008, 12:07 AM 688.1 metres is correct. Actually the spire installation and the steel floor process sort of overlaps, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH19J8ZF4Bk 5:54 to 6:13 The spire is 128 metres tall on its own and 560 tonnes heavy. The spire looks like it will start to root itself as soon as 19th floor is completed which is first floor or 22nd tier which also is just after 700 metre mark has been passed. So one more tier to go or 2 floors. thats weird, from plans i have the pinnacle itself supposed to start at tier20B/675m and total 144m long.? so if pinnacle starts on tier22/701m, at 128m long, that would make eventual height 829m? fury please help?lol is this latest youtube vidoe up to date? should i change my detailed diagram of burjd? LoverOfDubai August 12th, 2008, 12:53 AM Is there any kind of transit in Dubai? Or is it just Los Angeles 2.0, totally auto-centric? Yes to both questions. Dubai is auto-centric but, just like Los Angeles, there is public transportation. From what I know, there is a big Dubai Metro project going on just now, but I don't know when it should start to operate... The Dubai Metro has two lines: Red and Green Lines. The Red Line is exptected to open on 9 September 2009. The Green Line is exptected to open in March 2010. CULWULLA August 12th, 2008, 01:12 AM update http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/2755198433_fa2a71b41c_o.jpg ericlewis91 August 12th, 2008, 01:15 AM whats the highest floor with a apartment? Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 01:46 AM http://i37.tinypic.com/2wmdkrk.jpg Adam2707 August 12th, 2008, 01:47 AM whats the highest floor with a apartment? Theres a huge diagram above your post. dosen't get much simpler. ruochen August 12th, 2008, 03:42 AM yes ,its water there are many roads along the water or river Fury August 12th, 2008, 04:18 AM Hi all. Hey Cul - Section 20B is where it is supposed to start. The section has much bigger structural members than the ones below it. I think the circular pipe will still start there. They may not actually build the pipe yet though. They may build it as they jack it into place. Buildmilehigh - do you have a source for the higher pinnacle start ? That video while very good is not a good source for changes to the plan. We will have to wait and see. Guys the pinnacle is the circular "pipe" (tiers 27 to 30 - pinnacle 1 to 4) that sticks up above tier 26. It starts (in the plans) at section 20B and is hidden inside the structure untill the top of tier 24 where it will show 1/3 of the way around the structure. After the top of tier 25 it will show 2/3 of the way around.Below tier 27 it is not called the pinnacle. The spire is from tier 22 to tier 26 - spire 1 to 5. Another full tier to be erected before the spire starts. The roof(s) is(are) from tier 19 to tier 22 - roof 1 to 4. Tier 22 is both roof 4 and spire 1. Here is 3 (of 12) pages of my plan to help illustrate. http://i35.tinypic.com/mv6e6x.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/1zbgfg2.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/141jrmf.jpg :cheers: CULWULLA August 12th, 2008, 06:26 AM whats the highest floor with a apartment? level 108 which is 370m above grd. fury-thanks, ive amended diagram AcesHigh August 12th, 2008, 06:52 AM level 108 which is 370m above grd. that depends on your definition of an apartment "An apartment is a self-contained housing unit that occupies only part of a building. Apartments may be owned (by an owner-occupier) or rented (by tenants)." CULWULLA August 12th, 2008, 07:29 AM ^yes i concur, they maybe a few units higher which arent indicated. Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 08:42 AM Dont know why this has not been spotted before, but both elevator frames have been dismantled and vertical un-clad gap is now being installed with cladding. Pic from this morning. http://i36.tinypic.com/2qntt00.jpg Milansson August 12th, 2008, 09:26 AM Dont know why this has not been spotted before, but both elevator frames have been dismantled and vertical un-clad gap is now being installed with cladding. Pic from this morning. http://i36.tinypic.com/2qntt00.jpg yeah, finally... good to see the elevators being taken away and the empty space being cladd.. btw.. don´t know if it was on imre´s pic or on your, OTR, but someone mentioned a small fire that made a few windows a bit black.. does anyone know more about it? I mean, it does not look to be something serious that would affect the construction, but would interest me anyway.. thanks if any answers Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 10:04 AM ^^ I dont think this was a fire but is grease etc from the crane wires that has blown onto the cladding. In addition it looks as though there was a diesel genny in that area for a while. droneriot August 12th, 2008, 11:02 AM diagram Hmm, can't recognize any trend in there. You'd think that the floors getting smaller in area/circumference would speed up the process, but I guess that's cancelled out by the increase in wind... helghast August 12th, 2008, 11:09 AM are they going too put in the missing fins on the facade ? germantower August 12th, 2008, 11:17 AM ^^ OTR´s picture clearly shows that they are already adding cladding there! helghast August 12th, 2008, 11:24 AM thats not what i was asking, the fins are missing in his pick, and doesnt seem like they will be getting to them anytime soon germantower August 12th, 2008, 11:31 AM ^^ oops my bad sorry helghast ,ahhh you mean those beams at the mechanical cladding? I was also wondering why they aren´t already adding them.... BTW i am so curious about the landscaping around this tower after major construction works are finished, will be surely spectacular when they stick to the models that were shown on several exhibitions... CULWULLA August 12th, 2008, 11:56 AM HOW GOOD DOES THAT CLADDING LOOK. im glad they got it right. can you imagine an 800m tower with crap looking facade? what an eyesore. they had to get it right. Dequal August 12th, 2008, 12:10 PM But what are those rails supposed to do at each platform? CULWULLA August 12th, 2008, 12:25 PM ^i think rails are for the BMU to hang off them for cleaning access. Dequal August 12th, 2008, 12:29 PM ^i think rails are for the BMU to hang off them for cleaning access. I thought they would use more subtile rails. :) Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 01:58 PM ^^ IMO, the rails will also be subject to the same adjacent cladding that will give safe access to the terrace on either hotel, office or residential area. After all the offices will need an external smoking area or its a long way down for a nicotine fix.:lol: Pablobegood August 12th, 2008, 02:05 PM are they going too put in the missing fins on the facade ? ^^good question helghast. Also, if someone haven't noticed yet in a lot of previous pics, the are many fins missing not only at mech floors but all along the facade, as if a windy storm have ripped them off :ohno: helghast August 12th, 2008, 02:20 PM ^^ thats what i was saying, there missing for some odd reason. does anyone know when they are going to put in the fins in or if there not ? Fury should know this Dequal August 12th, 2008, 02:30 PM A strange thing I noticed. It looks like there is a rail missing in the cladding work: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5333/linett4.jpg I wonder what happened with it or is this supposed to be like this? Milansson August 12th, 2008, 02:42 PM great shots imre. i see the lev124 outdoor ob deck is straight below in this shot (highest rounded tier facing us) http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9792/0808026siteaerialnj8.jpg yeah, culwulla, the OB deck will be fine there.. but you know.. the most weird thing is, that we are talking about the OB deck at Burj Dubai, where, I think, the Burj Dubai is the most wonderful building in whole Dubai - as for now. I mean, the city is getting very nice, but as someone mentioned, the skyline can not be compared to that of shanghai yet. maybe one day, but don´t think that. So, really, there should be another supertall, standing next to burj dubai, that would have an OB-deck with a glass-floor above the highest point of the Burj Dubai, so that the people could look at the wonderful shape of the BD. I mean, this picture is simply fantastic, where one can at least guess the whole building, and how it looks. And, when the people are talking about the shame about the BD OB-deck being positioned so low, I really think, that it is because of having the chance to feel like standing at the top of the world (at the same time as breathing air, that is thick enough not to make you sick) :) anyway, great construction, I am really curious about the documents that will be released after the completion of the building. If I had a TV company, I would definitely start a trip to dubai now... Dequal August 12th, 2008, 02:44 PM You're right. The most beautiful pictures of the Burj Dubai are the aerial pictures, where you can see the shape of the tower. Pablobegood August 12th, 2008, 03:02 PM A strange thing I noticed. It looks like there is a rail missing in the cladding work: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5333/linett4.jpg I wonder what happened with it or is this supposed to be like this? Yes, they are the fins we have been saying. It could be a possibly error design. A some kind of chain reaction occurred when a single fins dettachs , the upper ones simply fall down.:down: Milansson August 12th, 2008, 03:11 PM Yes, they are the fins we have been saying. It could be a possibly error design. A some kind of chain reaction occurred when a single fins dettachs , the upper ones simply fall down.:down: well.. I think they will just add these parts later on.. will certainly not stay like that Pablobegood August 12th, 2008, 03:34 PM ^^I think so. But I wouldn't like to be nearby when some stainless steel parts are falling down from that height :runaway: Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 03:37 PM The BD cladding has encountered over the last several months the sand storms, and every day dust. Imagine how this will shine when the first rain of the year gets at it, or a good wash down for opening day? http://i37.tinypic.com/qrk9r9.jpg Milansson August 12th, 2008, 03:55 PM [QUOTE=Old Town Resident;23909382]The BD cladding has encountered over the last several months the sand storms, and every day dust. Imagine how this will shine when the first rain of the year gets at it, or a good wash down for opening day? when was the last time it rained in Dubai? i guess, Emaar will have to order some rain or some big airplanes that would wash the BD at the opening.. or? btw.. I saw here at the forum one picture where the guys started to clean the cladding.. there was an enormous difference between the clean and the dusty windows.. let me find that.. yeah.. here´s the link.. it´s one of imre´s recent pic-update-captures... http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_07141.jpg see the difference? :) i will look like schyzophrenic, but as I was analysing that picture a bit, I am not sure if they were cleaning those parts of cladding, or they were adding some kind of coating to the steel beams? AltinD August 12th, 2008, 04:23 PM ^^I think so. But I wouldn't like to be nearby when some stainless steel parts are falling down from that height :runaway: Then thank god you aren't anywhere near. :| ... Imagine how this will shine when the first rain of the year gets at it, or a good wash down for opening day? Quite the opposite, the rain will be the filthiest thing ever to hit the tower, so they should pray not to rain for months before opening. :D The-Real-Link August 12th, 2008, 06:15 PM Thank you for the new closeups, OTR and Imre. Great to see the construction process of the sections up close as always. I'm sure just like any large project, there is a very specific order in which every piece is assembled for the final product. Whether a fin or few missed their construction timetable when the rest of the floor was done or if they simply have not gotten to the site yet, I'm sure a final check will be done to make sure every missing piece is there eventually. Otherwise, AMAZING aerial shots lately. Thanks to all the dedicated and talented photographers who have given us the opportunity to watch this building rise almost daily from across the world. helghast August 12th, 2008, 06:44 PM Yes, they are the fins we have been saying. It could be a possibly error design. A some kind of chain reaction occurred when a single fins dettachs , the upper ones simply fall down.:down: no they didnt fall, they just havent put them in for some reason Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 06:50 PM http://i38.tinypic.com/xgbc4w.jpg http://i35.tinypic.com/10f1etc.jpg http://i35.tinypic.com/n4xxue.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/59vr7c.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/10ofoxs.jpg glassNsteel August 12th, 2008, 06:56 PM thanks OTR...great shots and the first two show just how beautiful the cladding is! btw, what are the black lateral fins being installed at the first mech level? helghast August 12th, 2008, 07:05 PM alot fo things have happen to the facade, really dark areas. facade fins not put up. i hope this gets fixed before it tops out Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 07:07 PM thanks OTR...great shots and the first two show just how beautiful the cladding is! btw, what are the black lateral fins being installed at the first mech level? I was just showing that the mechanical level could also be opened for venting. Thats what I guess are the black areas. buildmilehightower August 12th, 2008, 09:11 PM Are those black horizontal bars across the first mechanical floor on the right side of the photo just temporary setup? Is the design for the mechanical floors cladding to have bottom half with vertical metal bars and top half without vertical metal bars? or is top half of mechanical floor yet to have vetical metal bars put on them. http://i35.tinypic.com/n4xxue.jpg Old Town Resident August 12th, 2008, 10:16 PM The last column put up yesterday for the 16th level steel really stands out when illuminated at night and is very different from the tubular columns in previous levels. Is this part of the structure linked to the pinnacle hoisting mechanism as the steel geometry is heavy duty when compared to what has already been constructed. http://i37.tinypic.com/iydl6g.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/ohl2qr.jpg Ato August 12th, 2008, 11:05 PM Edit. CULWULLA August 12th, 2008, 11:45 PM wow otr, great shots. thewalrus August 13th, 2008, 01:29 AM Hello all, this will be my first post... I'm sorry to report that my photos won't be as clear as Old Town Resident's, these were taken without a tripod on August 01 which was a particularly hazy day. Nikon D40X with kit 18-135mm lens. I'm uploading from a rather slow connection so I'll edit this post to add more JPGs in a couple of hours. http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0168.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0169.JPG A large and oily machine (drill?) seen on a construction site near the Burj Dubai. This was by where I parked my car... http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0175.JPG Closeup of oily machine with many hoses. What is this thing? http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0179.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0211.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0212.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0214.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0218.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0191.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0192.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0193.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0194.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0195.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0197.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0220.JPG http://kuhnke-international.com/misc/UAE_burj/DSC_0189.JPG ZZ-II August 13th, 2008, 01:48 AM welcome on SSC, and many thx for the great shots :okay:. but please use thumb-nails when you post lots of pics because not all members have DSL :) Shahid August 13th, 2008, 03:32 PM http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6899/skyscrapercomppq4.png :nuts: DinoVabec August 13th, 2008, 04:28 PM :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:... Yeah...Right... Maybe for around 500 years...:nuts: Shahid August 13th, 2008, 04:35 PM :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:... Yeah...Right... Maybe for around 500 years...:nuts: No its not. It is on the the progress, see http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=500019 DinoVabec August 13th, 2008, 04:42 PM ^^ It's just proposed...And it's never gonna build...:cheers: LeMoN-SK August 13th, 2008, 05:20 PM ^^ It's just proposed...And it's never gonna build...:cheers: Never say never, but I also think it won't get built in the horizont of 10-15 years... buildmilehightower August 13th, 2008, 07:02 PM You weren't meant to post that diagram in the supertall section, I only gave it to saudi arabia for a reason... Never say never though. In fact I updated that, with more balanced diagram of burj dubai (slendering evenly at higher as going up) Old Town Resident August 13th, 2008, 07:09 PM ^^^^:booze: Mr Bee Dee Smiley says is there beer involved?:lol: http://i34.tinypic.com/20u4ler.jpg LeMoN-SK August 13th, 2008, 08:30 PM ^^Is that statue in the Old Town? Looks funny as hell! :lol: Bikes August 13th, 2008, 08:31 PM I'm sure the designer was high while creating this "thing" :D glassNsteel August 13th, 2008, 08:50 PM thanks walrus...those are some nice shots! Gordion August 13th, 2008, 08:57 PM Amazing!!! :nuts: buildmilehightower August 13th, 2008, 09:52 PM new imre photos : www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com dunno for sure if they are from today. just few photos from them: http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_1003.jpg http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_1008.jpg buildmilehightower August 13th, 2008, 09:56 PM As you can see from this photo the 15th floor's horizontal roof beams aren't installed yet. http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_1004.jpg Bikes August 13th, 2008, 09:57 PM Not Imre is the photographer though, but David Hobcote. idkblk August 13th, 2008, 10:35 PM Who is that guy? The photos are amazing. And he uses a quiet expensive Camera. EOS Ds Mark II for the airals, and the elevator picture on burjdubaiskyscraper.com is even a EOS Ds Mark III :nuts: :nuts: Dequal August 13th, 2008, 10:42 PM Who is that guy? The photos are amazing. And he uses a quiet expensive Camera. EOS Ds Mark II for the areals, and the elevator picture on burjdubaiskyscraper.com is even a EOS Ds Mark III :nuts: :nuts: Aren't those cameras of 8000$ ? :nuts: I have one of 900$ :D (EOS 450D) antovador August 13th, 2008, 10:55 PM Hi I have a question do you think Burj Dubai is a step for a Kardashev's civilization type I ? wyqtor August 13th, 2008, 11:29 PM Hi I have a question do you think Burj Dubai is a step for a Kardashev's civilization type I ? Interesting question... I think that rather has to do some scientific breakthroughs like fusion energy or (strong) artificial intelligence instead of buildings. The Burj Dubai is more like a "normal" skyscraper (except for the height), Still, I would say we'd be at or near Type I level when we build a city-size arcology (like the ones proposed for Tokyo). Woozy August 13th, 2008, 11:32 PM Hi I have a question do you think Burj Dubai is a step for a Kardashev's civilization type I ? None of the levels on the scale have anything to do with building stuff, but being able to harness energy. Type 1 means being able to harness all the potential energy on our planet. Type 2 a star, and type 3 our galaxy. idkblk August 14th, 2008, 12:36 AM Aren't those cameras of 8000$ ? :nuts: I have one of 900$ :D (EOS 450D) Yep! But i'm really dreaming of owning a 450D. Would be far sufficient for my needs :cheers: CULWULLA August 14th, 2008, 01:33 AM great photos.:nuts: helghast August 14th, 2008, 01:49 AM crane cabs are at 700m Asunarocks August 14th, 2008, 01:56 AM Ohh my! The BD is massive, when I was a kid the Sears was worlds tallest and I thought that was tall! I love the shape and the effect of the cladding. Awesome photos espec the helecopter shots. Downfallen August 14th, 2008, 02:00 AM Mr Hobcote those are the best BD pictures Ive seen to date...bravo ! I can even see my exit point :) Anyone know where we can we get some higher res copies..? Shahid August 14th, 2008, 02:05 AM http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/Emirates-Towers-Elevators.jpg From burjdubaiskyscraper.com feleru August 14th, 2008, 02:13 AM one of the greates pics I have ever seen of the Burj Dubai LoverOfDubai August 14th, 2008, 02:15 AM Just so everyone knows, the image posted by Shahid is not from the Burj Dubai. That is the atrium of one of the Emirates Towers. malec August 14th, 2008, 02:25 AM Some of those pictures from burjdubaiskyscraper.com I get sunburnt even looking at them!! Taufiq August 14th, 2008, 03:53 AM nice shot of the Emirates Towers! Tom_Green August 14th, 2008, 06:47 AM When i visited Berlin i didn`t expected to see parts of the Burj Dubai. :D http://i37.tinypic.com/14wg2rm.jpg ericlewis91 August 14th, 2008, 07:01 AM ^ what are u talking about The-Real-Link August 14th, 2008, 07:03 AM It was recently mentioned that a palace there was having its steel recycled and a substantial portion of it was being purchased for use in the Burj Dubai. drew.magoo August 14th, 2008, 08:07 AM ^^ yeah, i read about that it actually got me kind of scared! :P LoverOfDubai August 14th, 2008, 08:26 AM ^^ yeah, i read about that it actually got me kind of scared! :P Why? Bikes August 14th, 2008, 08:59 AM http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/Emirates-Towers-Elevators.jpg Emirates Towers :cheers: AltinD August 14th, 2008, 10:36 AM Mr Hobcote those are the best BD pictures Ive seen to date...bravo ! I can even see my exit point :) HAHA :D ;) Old Town Resident August 14th, 2008, 11:24 AM ^^^^^^ He talks out his exit point:lol: W!CKED August 14th, 2008, 04:37 PM Great photos!!! Spartan_X August 14th, 2008, 04:52 PM Anyone knows where to find wallpapers ( for widescreen resolutions if possible ) of BD ? Dequal August 14th, 2008, 05:36 PM Anyone knows where to find wallpapers ( for widescreen resolutions if possible ) of BD ? On www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com can you find a lot of images. If you find a nice one, I can resize it to your screen resolution if you want ;) Just PM me if you need me. buildmilehightower August 14th, 2008, 09:03 PM hahahahahahahah what a co-incidence, mine too. Spartan_X August 14th, 2008, 09:03 PM Thanks for the link :cheers: This image here is my new wallpaper :banana: http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_0601high.jpg buildmilehightower August 14th, 2008, 09:08 PM this is probaly level with the transition between the concrete and the steel. tahir.DDS August 14th, 2008, 10:21 PM i do like the picture And its also the same level that walking human on the street look like crawling ant on the wall :dance2: tahir.DDS August 14th, 2008, 10:27 PM "buildmilehightower" i took another look at the picture ,i don't think its level with the cemento-steel junction ,maybe its 2 stories below it.(or even more) cleveraz August 14th, 2008, 10:36 PM Thanks for the link :cheers: This image here is my new wallpaper :banana: http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_0601high.jpg mine too:banana: im_from_zw038 August 15th, 2008, 12:57 AM mine too:banana: mine too!!!!! :cheers: Gonzalo90uy August 15th, 2008, 01:24 AM Wow! Peter The Great August 15th, 2008, 05:42 AM It looks like someone's playing simcity...and they're using cheats...big time. There seems something totally unorthodox about what I see in that photo, not to mention all the others of Dubai and the UAE. pacolalo August 15th, 2008, 05:57 AM http://gonzotepec.myminicity.es/ firoz bharmal August 15th, 2008, 07:31 AM whats this construction as I marked ? http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9487/burjdubai0601high1pb0.jpg whoami August 15th, 2008, 10:33 AM when can we see a picture of the SS tubes @ mechanical floors? Dequal August 15th, 2008, 01:27 PM I think that will be the Burj Dubai Lake Park or some towers of The Residences. http://www.tetur.com/images/dubai%20downtown,%20dubai%20burj%20master%20plan%20map.jpg 1- burj dubai 2- dubai mall 3- the old town 4- burj dubai boulevard 5- the residences (18 towers) 5a- the residences (18 towers) 6- burj dubai lake park 7- south ridge (6 towers) 8- burj dubai business hub (6 low-rises) 9- burj dubai lake hotel (63 storeys 300m) 10- buej dubai metro station 11- the lofts (3 towers) 12- burj views (3 towers) 13- 8 boulevard walk (38 storeys) 14- Doha Street 15- Sheikh Zayed Road AltinD August 15th, 2008, 01:28 PM It looks like someone's playing simcity...and they're using cheats...big time. There seems something totally unorthodox about what I see in that photo, not to mention all the others of Dubai and the UAE. You mean like sticking a space needle next to a stadium? Infrasuper Planet August 15th, 2008, 01:29 PM mine too:banana: mine too!!!!! :cheers: ...and mine too :D:D ericlewis91 August 15th, 2008, 03:17 PM mine too:banana: mine too!!!!! :cheers: ...and mine too :D:D OMG ME TOO sky6one August 15th, 2008, 04:11 PM OMG ME TOO :nocrook: ME THREE :nocrook: Thunderbolt55 August 15th, 2008, 04:33 PM It was recently mentioned that a palace there was having its steel recycled and a substantial portion of it was being purchased for use in the Burj Dubai. I heard that only Turkish steel is been used in the construction. Can somebody confirm this, please? AltinD August 15th, 2008, 04:42 PM I heard that only Turkish steel is been used in the construction. Can somebody confirm this, please? I haven't heard of Turkish steel used, at least not on the steel section on top, however part of the rebar used on the concrete structure might have come from Turkey. I know that Turkish made rebar is present in the market. I don't know if that's true, but it might be possible. Dequal August 15th, 2008, 04:44 PM I heard that only Turkish steel is been used in the construction. Can somebody confirm this, please? No, there is indeed steel coming from Germany which was recycled from a former building. skyboi August 15th, 2008, 05:01 PM Where is the lake surrounding it according to the render ? Thunderbolt55 August 15th, 2008, 05:10 PM No, there is indeed steel coming from Germany which was recycled from a former building. OK, Thanks. This is what I found from the net... The iron structure of former East German leader Erich Honecker's seat of government, Palast der Republik in Berlin, has found its way to Dubai's prestigious real estate development, Burj Dubai. The steel has been recycled and partly used for building the world's tallest property, Burj Dubai. Scrap dealer Henryk Wetzel said that the recycled steel is picked up by a commodity broker, shipped via the Atlantic and Mediterranean Sea to Istanbul and then bought by a Turkish company that manufactures steel girders for the Burj Dubai tower. http://www.gowealthy.com/gowealthy/wcms/en/home/news/real-estate/Burj-Dubai-realty-1218352773178.html So from what I understand steel girders are coming from Turkey... Dequal August 15th, 2008, 05:47 PM Where is the lake surrounding it according to the render ? That is still coming I guess. The area around the tower is now filled with construction materials. thewalrus August 15th, 2008, 06:06 PM That is still coming I guess. The area around the tower is now filled with construction materials. I wonder how deep it is going to be - will there be penalties for scuba diving in the lake? Will the lake have small propeller driven boats in it to hit unwary snorkelers? Some of the shots from close-up near the base (entry atrium with X tape on the glass) show what looks like the concrete walls which will eventually enclose the water, some of which look like they're 4 to 5 meters high.... Dequal August 15th, 2008, 06:10 PM You can now enter your own name for the Burj Dubai Lake Fountains. The fountain in Burj Dubai Lake is envisaged as a water, light and music spectacle – truly, one of the world’s finest water features. To shoot water spray up to a height of 500 ft – equivalent to a 50-storey building, the fountain will have over 6,000 lights and 50 colour projectors, with the water features swaying to the melody of Arabic and international music. Just use your imagination and find a name for the largest fountains in the world: http://www.emaar.com/VRTours/VR_Bujdubai/Index.asp unmentioned August 15th, 2008, 06:45 PM You mean like sticking a space needle next to a stadium? Dubai, as spectacular and awe-inspiring as it is, is ultimately an unsustainably decadent orgy of fanciful and unrealistic planning and building practices. Does anyone really think that this suburbia-on-steroids can keep on growing indefinitely? Dubai as it exists now and will exist for the next ten or twenty years will be a wonderful place to live and visit, but one day, likely in the first half of this century, Emirati leaders will begin to regret the lack of density, auto-centrism, laughable excuse for a public transit system, and outrageously unsustainable architecture. We shall see. For now, build on! It's not like the earth has finite natural resources anyway, right? Alle August 15th, 2008, 06:50 PM Its most definitely not completed yet, But they ran some tests a while ago. P.S. Woops i thought the lake question was the last post. I wonder how deep it is going to be - will there be penalties for scuba diving in the lake? Will the lake have small propeller driven boats in it to hit unwary snorkelers? Some of the shots from close-up near the base (entry atrium with X tape on the glass) show what looks like the concrete walls which will eventually enclose the water, some of which look like they're 4 to 5 meters high.... Why would you want to scuba dive there, :rofl: (unless your cleaning the lake) Old Town Resident August 15th, 2008, 08:08 PM http://i36.tinypic.com/2iszbd1.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/15n4mk4.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/2nr1qtz.jpg Highest Ladders ever thread : LOL http://i36.tinypic.com/rig37n.jpg The-Real-Link August 15th, 2008, 08:32 PM You can now enter your own name for the Burj Dubai Lake Fountains. The fountain in Burj Dubai Lake is envisaged as a water, light and music spectacle – truly, one of the world’s finest water features. To shoot water spray up to a height of 500 ft – equivalent to a 50-storey building, the fountain will have over 6,000 lights and 50 colour projectors, with the water features swaying to the melody of Arabic and international music. Just use your imagination and find a name for the largest fountains in the world: http://www.emaar.com/VRTours/VR_Bujdubai/Index.asp Too bad you have to submit UAE passport or Residency Visa requirements to enter. *sighs*. Thought of some neat names too. AltinD August 15th, 2008, 08:41 PM Dubai, as spectacular and awe-inspiring as it is, is ultimately an unsustainably decadent orgy of fanciful and unrealistic planning and building practices. Does anyone really think that this suburbia-on-steroids can keep on growing indefinitely? Dubai as it exists now and will exist for the next ten or twenty years will be a wonderful place to live and visit, but one day, likely in the first half of this century, Emirati leaders will begin to regret the lack of density, auto-centrism, laughable excuse for a public transit system, and outrageously unsustainable architecture. We shall see. For now, build on! It's not like the earth has finite natural resources anyway, right? Well, that's just your (UN-INFORMED) opinion. :cheers: SpaceScraper August 15th, 2008, 09:14 PM Well, that's just your (UN-INFORMED) opinion. :cheers: Actually, there are a lot of informed real estate experts that believe property values in Dubai may start to decline in 2010 because of an excess supply of commerical and residential space being completed around that time. Time will tell. Whatever the outcome, the architecuture that has been built is still amazing. Dequal August 15th, 2008, 09:22 PM Whatever the outcome, the architecuture that has been built is still amazing. And I doubt that another city can beat this. (in an architecture way) unmentioned August 15th, 2008, 09:30 PM Well, that's just your (UN-INFORMED) opinion. :cheers: Let's hear your "informed" opinion, then, shall we? Let me guess: Dubai will continue to grow exponentially and indefinitely and be the most lavish and successful city in the world with a population of one hundred million and seven-thousand-foot towers and an indoor ocean and a lunar colony and real castles and princesses and dragons and no pollution, congestion, poverty, or strain on energy sources. Informed. Realistic. Tom_Green August 15th, 2008, 09:49 PM Dubai, as spectacular and awe-inspiring as it is, is ultimately an unsustainably decadent orgy of fanciful and unrealistic planning and building practices. Does anyone really think that this suburbia-on-steroids can keep on growing indefinitely? Dubai as it exists now and will exist for the next ten or twenty years will be a wonderful place to live and visit, but one day, likely in the first half of this century, Emirati leaders will begin to regret the lack of density, auto-centrism, laughable excuse for a public transit system, and outrageously unsustainable architecture. We shall see. For now, build on! It's not like the earth has finite natural resources anyway, right? http://i37.tinypic.com/63vic0.jpg cooperchris August 15th, 2008, 10:13 PM Let's hear your "informed" opinion, then, shall we? Let me guess: Dubai will continue to grow exponentially and indefinitely and be the most lavish and successful city in the world with a population of one hundred million and seven-thousand-foot towers and an indoor ocean and a lunar colony and real castles and princesses and dragons and no pollution, congestion, poverty, or strain on energy sources. Informed. Realistic. No city including Dubai can grow at its current rate forever. Dubai is building like crazy now so that by about 2015, tourism will become a big source of income. After then, the building rate will reduce dramatically. I think once Aj Burj is finished, building will nearly stop. As for energy, some of the new designs by Adrian Smith are efficient. :cheers: Capn Jef August 15th, 2008, 10:30 PM No one said that, unmentioned. Don't be irrational. unmentioned August 15th, 2008, 10:44 PM As for energy, some of the new designs by Adrian Smith are efficient. :cheers: What a marvelous achievement! Some! don't let my facetiousness fool you. I'm not an idiot, and I understand enough about the development goals of the U.A.E. to understand that they are working toward something halfway respectable and, despite my feelings that it's somewhat tasteless, respect the Emirati leaders' prerogative to seek World-Class status. However. I too often feel like many, many forumers here just look at it like, "YAY! TALL BUILDINGS! BIGGER! TALLER! CRAZIER! MORE AIR CONDITIONING!" and I attempted, to little avail, to attempt to inject some perspective into the conversation. My apologies. ::bows:: Tom_Green August 15th, 2008, 10:46 PM What a marvelous achievement! Some! don't let my facetiousness fool you. I'm not an idiot, and I understand enough about the development goals of the U.A.E. to understand that they are working toward something halfway respectable and, despite my feelings that it's somewhat tasteless, respect the Emirati leaders' prerogative to seek World-Class status. However. I too often feel like many, many forumers here just look at it like, "YAY! TALL BUILDINGS! BIGGER! TALLER! CRAZIER! MORE AIR CONDITIONING!" and I attempted, to little avail, to attempt to inject some perspective into the conversation. My apologies. ::bows:: Skyscrapers are better for the enviroment than the suburb sprawl in the USA. unmentioned August 15th, 2008, 10:52 PM Skyscrapers are better for the enviroment than the suburb sprawl in the USA. I wouldn't disagree with you for one second. Granted, just because Dubai has skyscrapers doesn't mean it isn't car-oriented sprawl... check your definition of sprawl and get back to me ;] Old Town Resident August 15th, 2008, 11:18 PM ^^^^ It will be nice when the school break is over and the kids are going to bed early. Tom_Green August 15th, 2008, 11:34 PM I wouldn't disagree with you for one second. Granted, just because Dubai has skyscrapers doesn't mean it isn't car-oriented sprawl... check your definition of sprawl and get back to me ;] The metro + trams in Dubai will reach more people than the metro in LA. Right now Dubai depends on car but things will change. Because of suburbia in the USA it is impossible to reach most people with a metro in the suburbs. The biggest parts of Dubai are build along the SZR and the Creek. The metro will not be far away for most of the people. Pablobegood August 16th, 2008, 12:52 AM http://i38.tinypic.com/2nr1qtz.jpg Highest Ladders ever thread : LOL I can't get that palm tree and its "overlaped" shadow. looks like a bad photoshop work :bash: :lol: Alle August 16th, 2008, 01:20 AM Dubai, as spectacular and awe-inspiring as it is, is ultimately an unsustainably decadent orgy of fanciful and unrealistic planning and building practices. Does anyone really think that this suburbia-on-steroids can keep on growing indefinitely? Dubai as it exists now and will exist for the next ten or twenty years will be a wonderful place to live and visit, but one day, likely in the first half of this century, Emirati leaders will begin to regret the lack of density, auto-centrism, laughable excuse for a public transit system, and outrageously unsustainable architecture. We shall see. For now, build on! It's not like the earth has finite natural resources anyway, right? Dubai is a city planned for 2.5 - 3 million, maybe you should turn your concerns otherwere for the issue of resources. Other than that, Dubai not being perfect and certainly I wouldnt want that for european cities for example, there is nothing bad for consumers to have a lot of good facilities available. Altough Abu Dhabi will be better than Dubai, I believe. We may claim that parts of the UAE is indeed developing beyond what might be expected from such a small place though. Given the size of the local population, but then they do have a lot of resources to invest. ericlewis91 August 16th, 2008, 01:37 AM how deep/ big is the fake lake? will there be wildlife in the lake (fish?) unmentioned August 16th, 2008, 01:44 AM I suppose my major issue with Dubai is just how extravagant and artificial so much of the new development is. Perhaps Dubai will be seen as a truly great city 75 or 100 years from now, after it has had time to develop the dense, walkable, human-scale urban fabric of a real city. But for now, Sheikh Zayed Road and all of the absurd development going on all around it makes Dubai look like just one enormous theme park. That's all I have to say on this thread. Crucify me as you like. Mark Rejhon August 16th, 2008, 01:49 AM I can't get that palm tree and its "overlaped" shadow. looks like a bad photoshop work :bash: :lol:Actually, that's not photoshop. This is commonly caused by combining flash and long exposure, combined with camera shake. The shadow (dark color) is the photograph of the palm tree without the flash. It's a pretty common occurance familiar with people who use the "flash+long exposure" feature of a camera. So you're actually seeing a dark blurred image of the palm tree, that's ending in a non-blurred illuminated palm-tree image. Imagine a blurred photo where 99% of the exposure is non-flash and 1% of the exposure is flash, and you understand this 'shadow' effect. I have personally witnessed this 'fakeshadow-like' effect with real camera photographs, taking pictures of dark objects against a dimly lit background, that are suddenly illuminated by flash. The blurring elsewhere in the photograph is sufficient evidence of camera shake, and the illumination seen shows that a flash has definitely been used. The illumination of the background shows that a long exposure has been used. Otherwise a flash would automatically darken background objects as the camera automatically used a shorter exposure for flash photography. This definitely isn't the case. So, quite obviously, a long exposure and a flash was combined in the same photograph. Camera shake: evidence exists due to blurring Long exposure: evidence exists due to blurring and well-exposed background Flash: evidence exists due to foreground illumination Plus It is well known among highly experienced photographers familiar with the flash+longexp feature, that combining flash+long exposure causes this weird shadowing effect during camera shake Therefore It is NOT photoshop s@my93 August 16th, 2008, 02:34 AM This is my first time posting in this forum, and I cant believe how tall it is, it looks amazing, Id like to visit it someday, what an incredible view you may have from the top!!! Anyone knows how tall are the surrounded buildings of the Burj Dubai??? If they are not very tall, the burj dubai will be seen even taller!! Sorry if my english isnt very good ... I'm Mexican s@my93 August 16th, 2008, 02:42 AM does anybody know when the Burj Dubai construction will be finished?? Thanks for answering LoverOfDubai August 16th, 2008, 03:16 AM does anybody know when the Burj Dubai construction will be finished?? Thanks for answering Topping out - late 2008 Completion - mid to late 2009 Westyguy August 16th, 2008, 03:19 AM Burj Dubai will probably be topped-out by New Years Day 2009 and totally finished August-October 2009. From what I've been reading on this thread so far. Hope I'm correct. Am I? LoverOfDubai August 16th, 2008, 03:24 AM This is my first time posting in this forum, and I cant believe how tall it is, it looks amazing, Id like to visit it someday, what an incredible view you may have from the top!!! Welcome! Anyone knows how tall are the surrounded buildings of the Burj Dubai??? If they are not very tall, the burj dubai will be seen even taller!! Are you referring to a specific building, or just in general? Sorry if my english isnt very good ... I'm Mexican ¡Hablas inglés muy bien! (You speak English very well!) rickydavisfan21 August 16th, 2008, 04:39 AM Great looking tower, but why did they have to build the immense footprint? Its like 6 times the size of the tower. Its obviously not for a structural purpose, the chicago spire isn't going to have the footprint dubai has. The size of the footprint really isolates the building. Its really unfriendly to pedestrians because of its isolation. It just kind of bothers me. thomyorke26 August 16th, 2008, 05:49 AM Thanks for the link :cheers: This image here is my new wallpaper :banana: http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_0601high.jpg ^^^^^^oh my gosh!!! is that for Real? Jude12 August 16th, 2008, 06:29 AM Great looking tower, but why did they have to build the immense footprint? Its like 6 times the size of the tower. Its obviously not for a structural purpose, the chicago spire isn't going to have the footprint dubai has. The size of the footprint really isolates the building. Its really unfriendly to pedestrians because of its isolation. It just kind of bothers me. That's the part of the design. :cheers: |