Just you Helghast.

The steel sections are 6.4m.

The terrace / setback at the start of tier 21 (the section they are working on) faces the smaller crane (240 degrees). That is why it looks shorter in the second pic I posted.

:cheers:

How does the crane go up and down?

Just great. Will be one the the iconic symbols of the 21st century.

How does the crane go up and down?

http://www.lcrgroup.com.au/zone_files/Media/climbtowercrane.swf

How does the crane go up and down?

Hi Free.

The framework at the top of the mast allows them to pull bolts - jack up the crane - insert a new section - and bolt up.

Or reverse to lower ...

:cheers:

Edit. - nice link abc

http://www.lcrgroup.com.au/zone_files/Media/climbtowercrane.swf

Cool animation. I was looking for something like that a long time.

So can anybody estimate the final completion and opening dates?

^^Completition or T/O around Dec 2008
Opening, probably July - Sept 2009

btw, congrats on 1000 posts :)

So can anybody estimate the final completion and opening dates?

It's on schedule, so that would be December 2008

was at the old town yesterday. i work right next to the BD and see it everyday all the time... but standing near the base of the tower and looking up is still just... WOAH. all skyscraper fans REALLY have to check it out in person. as good as the pictures are, they dont do the building justice.

well the completion date is Aug 24, 09 . but who knows it could be longer now

everybody have a look at this tower!!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=694298

was at the old town yesterday. i work right next to the BD and see it everyday all the time... but standing near the base of the tower and looking up is still just... WOAH. all skyscraper fans REALLY have to check it out in person. as good as the pictures are, they dont do the building justice.

:pet:



... so you did listened to my traffic direction advice after all :D

Hi, Im from Mexico and Im studying civil engineering. I have a proyect to investigate about this tower (about its height, time to be finished, materials, and more things related to these). Could someone be kind to provide me the information that I need???

Details about the tower is what I need.!!!

Thanks.

This thread is your oyster.

]_**;24455950']Hi, Im from Mexico and Im studying civil engineering. I have a proyect to investigate about this tower (about its height, time to be finished, materials, and more things related to these). Could someone be kind to provide me the information that I need???

Details about the tower is what I need.!!!

Thanks.

Try Wikipedia and Burjdubaiskyscraper.com (check out the facts page)

Yeap. Stay sharp OTR, Imre, AltinD. The dismantling is something I REALLY would like to see, specially the detaching of the crane arm and the cabin operator.:crazy:

Sorry cant stay sharp :ohno:for another week, I will need Imre's strongest zoom to see from South Africa. Hopefully will not miss much major action.

Here you go OTR

http://dvinfo.net/canon/images/eos1200bb.jpg

Hi Free.

The framework at the top of the mast allows them to pull bolts - jack up the crane - insert a new section - and bolt up.

Or reverse to lower ...

:cheers:

Edit. - nice link abc

Oh thanks and thanks to ABC

But i still dont get how the crane gets sit up when there goin to start the building?

Is it true Burj Dubai was only built to last 20 years?

Is it true Burj Dubai was only built to last 20 years?

The Eiffel Tower was meant to be torn down soon after the World's Fair for which it was constructed. However, I distinctly remember visiting the Eiffel Tower only last year, more than a century past it's projected dismantling...

is it being town down in 20 years?

^^ NO

The current steel floor seams pretty much complete, so I would expect the first beam of the next floor to come up soon ... I wouldn't be surprised even if it happens today.

Please don't post stuff about visions here anymore.
Just so you know. The supertalls forum is for REAL projects only. Usually anything that's about as tall as this tower or bigger will be considered as a vision unless there's clear evidence that it's not.
For visions please use: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4

Is it true Burj Dubai was only built to last 20 years?
I dont think so :nono:

I dont think so :nono:

No, I've read at least 100 years and many more if maintened very wel.

Please don't post stuff about visions here anymore.
Just so you know. The supertalls forum is for REAL projects only. Usually anything that's about as tall as this tower or bigger will be considered as a vision unless there's clear evidence that it's not.
For visions please use: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4


every super tall started as a vision, which particular thread can i use????

No, I've read at least 100 years and many more if maintened very wel.

don't matter 'IF' maintained very well, it will definately and surely last 100 years at least.

every super tall started as a vision, which particular thread can i use????

That doesn't change the fact that this is the Burj Dubai thread.

No, I've read at least 100 years and many more if maintened very wel.

yes, they said 100 years. but i'm sure the Tower will/can stand much longer than that

yes, they said 100 years. but i'm sure the Tower will/can stand much longer than that
I think that the tower will stand more than 100 years. For such a structure, 100 years is nothing...

every super tall started as a vision, which particular thread can i use????

But there's a big difference between me saying "I want to build a big tower" and Sheikh Mo saying the same thing. That tower looks completely unfeasible too, for example to get to floor 50 it looks like you need to get 3 different elevators or something. Seems more like a uni project than anything else.

lol... on the WTC, you had to use 3 different elevators to get to the top (as far as I know). The buildings were unfeasible too, but the tenants didn't seem to mind, also they mentioned that you get there faster.

Hi all.

I see Imageshack thumbnails link to an image that is greatly reduced in size. These from tinypic are also reduced though not as much. Tried pictiger too but they also reduce the original. Pic 4 us doesn't accept images this large - > than 2 MB. Is there no where to upload giant pics that link a thumb to the full size pic anymore ???

Flickr - atmasphere - 08 08 24

http://i33.tinypic.com/2hhni9t.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/35c4ioi.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/30925h3.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/289wqs1.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/zmh8ue.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2ef49k0.jpg

:cheers:

Still no dismantling of the crane... :(

lol... on the WTC, you had to use 3 different elevators to get to the top (as far as I know). The buildings were unfeasible too, but the tenants didn't seem to mind, also they mentioned that you get there faster.

Off topic, and there's no point to make other than trying to rationalize that you should spam this thread with visions.

Is it true Burj Dubai was only built to last 20 years?

Even if there were a global nuclear war, and no one left to maintain the Burj, it would still reign over Dubai for centuries.

Im sure this has been said like 5000 times but i dont feel like looking through 477 pages, I was wondering how high the top occupiable floor is?

Look how filthy the tower is!

Im sure this has been said like 5000 times but i dont feel like looking through 477 pages, I was wondering how high the top occupiable floor is?

624m which is 162fl the offical highest occupiable floor
the other highest occupiable floor is 701m or lvl 185, but this level is for etc and maintenance

Hey Helghast.

Why do you tell people the unofficial highest occupied level is at 701 m. ?

Mantainance workers can go to the top of the structure. 700.9 m. is the start of tier 22 - it is no different than any other section above level 160 mezz. 3. A stair case goes to the top of tier 22 at 720.1 m. Ladders go right to the top at 818. Just wonderin' why you pick 701 ?

:cheers:

i was just going off of CUWULLA's diagram

^^

His diagram doesn't say anything obout highest occupied level anywhere.

There is nothing special drawn at or near 700 m.

:dunno:

im whore! help me

im whore! help me

:weird:

im whore! help me
Pleas..No there ...:nuts::wtf::ancient:

... I would expect the first beam of the next floor to come up soon ... I wouldn't be surprised even if it happens today.

:yes: :yes: :yes:

Still no dismantling of the crane... :(

Not yet

Look how filthy the tower is!

... DUH ...

That does make me think, it will look very very different once it's cleaned.

But there's a big difference between me saying "I want to build a big tower" and Sheikh Mo saying the same thing. That tower looks completely unfeasible too, for example to get to floor 50 it looks like you need to get 3 different elevators or something. Seems more like a uni project than anything else.


hey guys when i posted it i aksed where can i put it? what the matter with you?

That doesn't change the fact that this is the Burj Dubai thread.

yeah i know. im not spamming this thread . look at the number of my posts. :banana:

Im sure this has been said like 5000 times but i dont feel like looking through 477 pages, I was wondering how high the top occupiable floor is?

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/49724/2000384619633431056_rs.jpg

this may help your mind clear a little bit.

If you also mean by highest floor we can access to, the internal ladder goes up far more than 700 metres.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9245/burjdubaielevationbestsug4.jpg

this diagram is older but shows how far up the ladder goes upto (768 metres)

Since you kept continuing with other stuff, I just want to remind you of what i posted earlier:

The next steel level started yesterday. The first beam is up!

.....

ok. so about 694.5 metres and Floor 183?!!! :banana::cheers::nuts:

So, anyone still believes it will be 705 meters tall? :nuts:


... btw, where's elliot, the guy who first broke the news about Emaar running out of money and Burj Dubai topping at 300 meters? :lol:

So, anyone still believes it will be 705 meters tall? :nuts:


... btw, where's elliot, the guy who first broke the news about Emaar running out of money and Burj Dubai topping at 300 meters? :lol:

Still believing in 815 metres. :cheers:

how do you come to 815m? you probably mean 818 ^^

819m ^^:)

this diagram is older but shows how far up the ladder goes upto (768 metres)

Hey Build - the ladder continues to the top platform inside the pinnacle.

Hey Rob - the top platform "floor" is at 818.0 The top of the handrail is at 819.1. The plans say 818.0 total. The official measurement when taken after completion might include the top handrail and the Concourse level below the ground level for a total of 825.1.

Hey Deq - nice site but you may want to do some research before posting. There never has been an 815 m. plan. I know it was probably a typo but you posted some time ago that the Army will be putting communication equipment in the spire of the BD. I don't know where you got this but I have never heard anything about this before. I asked for your source but alas - no response.

Hey Abuedz - Great work on helping out on the cladding problem but your posts come on a little strong. I am sure the Burj would have still been built without your help. Do keep posting good info as you have done in the past.

Hey Altin - I heard you on the first column of section 21A. Great info - keeping us informed. So 694.5 m. One more section and we will be over 700 meters - wow. I haven't thought for a couple years now that the structure will only be 705 m. - or that 940 that was being thrown around either.

Strange they lowered the smaller crane one section. They may use it at this height for some time but why lower it one section ? I had noticed a while ago they never put in a red section at the top of tier 20 like they have been for every other tier top and like the other crane did. Perhaps they lowered it and are waiting for a red section to arrive onsite then they will raise it up - I kinda doubt that but who knows.

It will be interesting when we get some shots of the top. I wonder if they are building the pipe that will is the base of the pinnacle as they go or if they will wait untill they getting ready to jack it up.

:cheers:

that needs a clean

http://i37.tinypic.com/30925h3.jpg

lol :D

Just wait for the first rain and then it will shine as a beauty ^^

Just wait for the first rain and then it will shine as a beauty ^^

if the dust stays too long on the tower it will solidify , and it'll take more than rain to wash that down ... a good scrubbing lol imagine that getting a sponge and starting from base up :nuts: lol

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/49724/2000384619633431056_rs.jpg

this may help your mind clear a little bit.

If you also mean by highest floor we can access to, the internal ladder goes up far more than 700 metres.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9245/burjdubaielevationbestsug4.jpg

this diagram is older but shows how far up the ladder goes upto (768 metres)

Thanks thats what i was looking for.

Just wait for the first rain and then it will shine as a beauty ^^

how often does it rain in dubai?

diagram update
fury, have i got the cranes right? havent seen a recent pic.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/2807371464_5e2ec16d32_o.jpg

Going back to the question of the lifetime of this tower... I think the main factor is MAINTENANCE.

Let's think of the components of the Burj Dubai:
Concrete core: Lifetime = 1000s of years. E.g. the Pantheon's domed roof in Rome. Used to support a lot of weight (e.g. the Hoover Dam)
Steel spire/pinnacle: Lifetime = 100s of years. Okay, susceptible to rust, stresses, microfractures etc. But with maintenance, can last definitely a few centuries I would say (e.g. look at the Golden Gate Bridge still going strong)
Glazed envelope: Lifetime = 30 years? Short lifetime due to weathering (e.g. sandblasting), but it's not a problem because it's very easy to replace and buildings are forever replacing glass panels
Building services plant and distribution: Lifetime = 30 years? There is space within the building to upgrade and renovate. Not a problem

the concrete of Burj Dubai is an even better /stronger/ longer lasting recipe then years ago.

Just wait for the first rain and then it will shine as a beauty ^^

but dubai is desert:(there is always dust in dubai:(

Hi Cul.

Diagram looks good as usual.

The crane heights look pretty close. The right crane could have its highest red section up at the top of tier 20 and another connection to the structure there.

:cheers:

Hey Build - the ladder continues to the top platform inside the pinnacle.

Hey Rob - the top platform "floor" is at 818.0 The top of the handrail is at 819.1. The plans say 818.0 total. The official measurement when taken after completion might include the top handrail and the Concourse level below the ground level for a total of 825.1.

Hey Deq - nice site but you may want to do some research before posting. There never has been an 815 m. plan. I know it was probably a typo but you posted some time ago that the Army will be putting communication equipment in the spire of the BD. I don't know where you got this but I have never heard anything about this before. I asked for your source but alas - no response.

Hey Abuedz - Great work on helping out on the cladding problem but your posts come on a little strong. I am sure the Burj would have still been built without your help. Do keep posting good info as you have done in the past.

Hey Altin - I heard you on the first column of section 21A. Great info - keeping us informed. So 694.5 m. One more section and we will be over 700 meters - wow. I haven't thought for a couple years now that the structure will only be 705 m. - or that 940 that was being thrown around either.

Strange they lowered the smaller crane one section. They may use it at this height for some time but why lower it one section ? I had noticed a while ago they never put in a red section at the top of tier 20 like they have been for every other tier top and like the other crane did. Perhaps they lowered it and are waiting for a red section to arrive onsite then they will raise it up - I kinda doubt that but who knows.

It will be interesting when we get some shots of the top. I wonder if they are building the pipe that will is the base of the pinnacle as they go or if they will wait untill they getting ready to jack it up.

:cheers:


it was already built up to 120 storeys w/o cladding for more than 2 years. thats my point.

^^ - Like I said great job getting the cladding happening.

I bet you have alot of info you can't share with us about the Burj but do let us know anything you can.

Cladding particulars, brackets, etc. - anything will be gladly absorbed.

Who do you work for anyway ?

:cheers:

On the window cleaning topic.

Quote from AMInfo

The cladding will be cleaned using an advanced window washing and façade maintenance system consisting of twelve permanently-installed, track-mounted, telescopic building maintenance machines located in internal garages at the tower's mechanical zones.

The manned cleaning cradles of the machines will be capable of serving the entire facade from its garage level downward to level 5 with jib arm lengths when fully extended of over 20 metres.

Quote from Robinson Solutions

The towers primary window washing & facade and maintenance system consists of three permanently installed, track mounted, telescopic building maintenance machines located in internal garage postions on uppermost levels. The manned cleaning cradle for each machine is capable of serving the entire facade from its garage level downward to level seven.

Each machines jib arm when extended will have a reach of over 36 meters with an overal length of 45 meters. Under normal conditions, with all three units in operation it will take 3 to 4 months to clean the entire building once. There is a separate system for the tower spire including a mobile elevated work platform.

We can be sure this thing will be looking shiny all the time. There will be alot of cameras pointed at it when it is completed being the WTS for years. Not like there isn't alot now but there will be even more when it opens.

:cheers:

but dubai is desert:(there is always dust in dubai:(


it will be a reall pain in the a.ss cleaning those windows...

Hi all.

Larger Favco Crane:

I am now wondering if the higher crane is going to be raised any higher.

The top of its mast is now even with the top of tier 21. The spire lifting methodology that has been posted here many times shows one crane only and the top of its mast at the top of tier 20. The drawing is quite old so I am not reading much into the 1 tier difference other than the fact that the crane doesn't need to go any higher to get ready for jacking.

Another observation is they never put in a red section into the crane mast that is 5 above the last red section. The 5th section is the top of the mast and is even with the top of tier 21. Now the fact they put in red sections at the top of each tier and they never this time doesn't really mean anything but it is an anomaly that I think is significant.

So based on the above 2 reasons and the fact the smaller crane lowered itself a week ago I think the crane(s) may be topped out.

:cheers:

it will be a reall pain in the a.ss cleaning those windows...

Please refer to the post DIRECTLY before yours.

from a friend... maybe old pic

http://i34.tinypic.com/bg4ggn.jpg

that's right, it's a very old pic. The steel part of the structure is not even begun. :)

Nobody answered:
How often does it rain? How many sunny days do you have there during the year?

only according to WIKIPEDIA ^^

Rainfall is generally light, with a mean of about 150 millimetres (6 in) per year; precipitation is usually centered around January, February and March. However, heavy rain is not uncommon in Dubai during the winter months and January 2008 saw a record of 120mm (or 5") of rain falling in just 24 hours, [34] The mean humidity in Dubai is about 60% and is higher during the cooler winter months.

that's right, it's a very old pic. The steel part of the structure is not even begun. :)

Wrong, the picture is not that old and it shows glass on the steel section.

only according to WIKIPEDIA ^^

Rainfall is generally light, with a mean of about 150 millimetres (6 in) per year; precipitation is usually centered around January, February and March. However, heavy rain is not uncommon in Dubai during the winter months and January 2008 saw a record of 120mm (or 5") of rain falling in just 24 hours, [34] The mean humidity in Dubai is about 60% and is higher during the cooler winter months.

The humidity is higher in the summer, it reached 95% a few days ago. It was also drizzling last night but we heard that they were experimenting with artificial rain in Abu Dhabi so maybe that caused it here.

Sorry to bring up an old hat, but this thread has gotten really large and the search STILL doesn't work... How high was that fountain going to be again?

^^ how can you tell? yes the top bends away from the point the photo's taken and gets smaller but I cannot see that glasses are on steel there.

But the steel structure definately begun in there and 2nd mech floor is mostly cladded therefore its quite recent.

anyway back to recent photos, new photos from www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_2204.jpg

I think I can see new column on top for the 17th floor or maybe not.

Who maintains burjdubaiskyscraper?

Hmm.. it seemed to me that the steel section hadn't been begun on that photo. :) So this photo has been taken about 2 - 3 months ago?

cmmn people wake up, this photo is taken around june 2008, the 2nd cladding is almost done, steel section is definately there, its the darker section above the exposed concrete core at about 4 floors complete. And look how far up the cladding has gone up in this photo (alot)

http://i34.tinypic.com/bg4ggn.jpg

This photo is when only first floor of the steel section has nearly finished January 2008. See how far cladding has reached when steel section just began (nowhere near half way).


http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/01January/Burj_Dubai010110.jpg

This is the earliest photo of I can find of when the steel began on concrete core which was taken in mid-december 2007.

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/12December/Burj_Dubai-121020.jpg

That first steel floor took a month...

I might get tripped out working at that height. Either that or love every second of it. Likely the latter.

Steel spire/pinnacle: Lifetime = 100s of years. Okay, susceptible to rust, stresses, microfractures etc. But with maintenance, can last definitely a few centuries I would say (e.g. look at the Golden Gate Bridge still going strong)


Golden Gate Bridge might not be the best example since most of it has been replaced over the years.

Generally with structures we design on the basis of 50-100 year building life. But of course if it is maintained well it can last indefinitely. And alternatively, for less significant buildings, if people decide they don't like it anymore it might get knocked down after 20 years! The design life is just a hypothetical thing we use for calculations on fatigue (failure due to repeated loading cycles) etc. At some point in the future, most buildings would undergo a condition assessment to see whether it's viable to extend the design life beyond that originally intended, with the usual answer being 'yes'.

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http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/08August/burj_dubai_2204.jpg

I think I can see new column on top for the 17th floor or maybe not.

The 17th steel floor started on Wednesday afternoon and as of this morning at least two columns were up, however you don't see any of that on the picture you posted because that was taken before the new floor started. What you see is just the arm of one of the cranes. :cheers:

when do they finish this building?

August 2009 ^^

August 29th by roibradbury, flickr:
highres:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/2809168710_73f5812ca0_o.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/vfld8n.jpg

The fountain...? Please...?

^^ - google - one of the first results ...

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/521576-emaar-to-build-one-of-worlds-largest-fountains?ln=en

Nice zz - pics of section 21A - not that I didn't believe Altin but pics speak volumes.

:cheers:

great pics, thanks for the updates!

Please refer to the post DIRECTLY before yours.

Are those gondolas going to be stablised? I hate to think of cleaning windows up there when the gondola is swinging because of the winds.

^^
the building is going to have special arms just for cleaning the windows
so somehow the building cleans itself

Watch this Codename Asero, I see Burj Dubai. Look at that video in the link below from 10:00 to 10:40
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1535103358mkkYgS

I caught those 2 screenshots. This was originally in May 2008.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2810156284_055229d5ae_o.jpg
This screenshot is at the center and the tallest one.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/2810162868_834e81f387_o.jpg
This screenshot is at the left. I see the Rose Tower at the right of Burj Dubai.

only according to WIKIPEDIA ^^

Rainfall is generally light, with a mean of about 150 millimetres (6 in) per year; precipitation is usually centered around January, February and March. However, heavy rain is not uncommon in Dubai during the winter months and January 2008 saw a record of 120mm (or 5") of rain falling in just 24 hours, [34] The mean humidity in Dubai is about 60% and is higher during the cooler winter months.

Thank you!

Maybe they have some great system to clean the windows, that we don't know about. Some waterfalls from the top of each section. Will see.

^^ They do!

On the window cleaning topic.

Quote from AMInfo

The cladding will be cleaned using an advanced window washing and façade maintenance system consisting of twelve permanently-installed, track-mounted, telescopic building maintenance machines located in internal garages at the tower's mechanical zones.

The manned cleaning cradles of the machines will be capable of serving the entire facade from its garage level downward to level 5 with jib arm lengths when fully extended of over 20 metres.

Going back to the question of the lifetime of this tower... I think the main factor is MAINTENANCE.

Let's think of the components of the Burj Dubai:
Concrete core: Lifetime = 1000s of years. E.g. the Pantheon's domed roof in Rome. Used to support a lot of weight (e.g. the Hoover Dam)
Steel spire/pinnacle: Lifetime = 100s of years. Okay, susceptible to rust, stresses, microfractures etc. But with maintenance, can last definitely a few centuries I would say (e.g. look at the Golden Gate Bridge still going strong)
Glazed envelope: Lifetime = 30 years? Short lifetime due to weathering (e.g. sandblasting), but it's not a problem because it's very easy to replace and buildings are forever replacing glass panels
Building services plant and distribution: Lifetime = 30 years? There is space within the building to upgrade and renovate. Not a problem

You're looking at this from a purely architectural / construction point of view.
The other considerations you have omitted are . . .

• Socio-economic factors - The make-up and stability of the local population, visiting tourists and labour force. The wealth, well-being and attitude of each of these groups.

• Tourist Status - The attraction and *feasability* of Dubai's tourist destinations. Will they continue to bring in the crowds and will they always be priced right so as to attract the number of tourists necessary to sustain the maintenance of the buildings, surrounding buildings and infrastructure.

• World Resource Depletion - What impact will high prices of oil, water and other resources be on a place which is built in a desert area. Green vegetation may be planted but how can you eliminate a desert climate? Certain resources in large quantities are needed to sustain this built-up "dreamland".

• World Politics - Will the UAE always be "neutral"? Will the UAE's neighbours always be friendly? Will politics make other destinations more popular than Dubai?

• World Peace - What impact will a Middle East / World war have on Dubai?

• Natural Disasters - Earthquakes, giant sand storms, monsoons, drought, floods, etc. Is Dubai safe from these for the next 10, 20, 50, 100 years?

• Bible Prophecy - Those who read and believe the Bible are looking forward to the soon return of the Lord Jesus Christ. His advent will be recognised in the earth by many things, one being a worldwide earthquake of excessive proportions. Zech 14v4. Accordingly, the Burj Dubai will only stand for as long as Christ remains away.

With a long term, wider view the Burj Dubai isn't such a sure proposition.

• Bible Prophecy - Those who read and believe the Bible are looking forward to the soon return of the Lord Jesus Christ. His advent will be recognised in the earth by many things, one being a worldwide earthquake of excessive proportions. Zech 14v4. Accordingly, the Burj Dubai will only stand for as long as Christ remains away.

:lol: that made me laugh, i dont know why though

I can't imagine structural engineers take ambiguous religious prophecy into account.

• Bible Prophecy - Those who read and believe the Bible are looking forward to the soon return of the Lord Jesus Christ. His advent will be recognised in the earth by many things, one being a worldwide earthquake of excessive proportions. Zech 14v4. Accordingly, the Burj Dubai will only stand for as long as Christ remains away.

With a long term, wider view the Burj Dubai isn't such a sure proposition.

Jesus wont physically/literally gonna come to earth.

Anyway, there's no point talking about how long it will last in a sense that we'll never see it being demolished or rottening, only out great great grand daughters will.

29/Aug/2008

Burj Dubai

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more pics coming on the flickr soon

Thanx, IMRE finally we're getting so thin up there. the tier after this which is tier 22 we'll be seeing very narrow floors and the ULTIMATE spire rooting.

and also OMG with the 3rd mechanical floor cladding its gone so fast.

and BTW the lift on the steel structure only goes upto 14th floor, will it access no more floors?

BTW: Burj Dubai tower looks awesome! :cheers: What do you think?

Nice Pics Imre! Great Work!

BTW, is it smoke again at the crane under the fourth mechanical floor?

BTW, is it smoke again at the crane under the fourth mechanical floor?


August 7, 2008
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August 29, 2008
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I see the small fire on the 98th floor. What happened to Burj Dubai on the 98th floor on August 7 compared to August 29 on fire?

I see the small fire on the 98th floor. What happened to Burj Dubai on the 98th floor on August 7 compared to August 29 on fire?

Maybe they like barbecue at lunch? :cheers:

You're looking at this from a purely architectural / construction point of view.
The other considerations you have omitted are . . .

• Socio-economic factors - The make-up and stability of the local population, visiting tourists and labour force. The wealth, well-being and attitude of each of these groups.

• Tourist Status - The attraction and *feasability* of Dubai's tourist destinations. Will they continue to bring in the crowds and will they always be priced right so as to attract the number of tourists necessary to sustain the maintenance of the buildings, surrounding buildings and infrastructure.

• World Resource Depletion - What impact will high prices of oil, water and other resources be on a place which is built in a desert area. Green vegetation may be planted but how can you eliminate a desert climate? Certain resources in large quantities are needed to sustain this built-up "dreamland".

• World Politics - Will the UAE always be "neutral"? Will the UAE's neighbours always be friendly? Will politics make other destinations more popular than Dubai?

• World Peace - What impact will a Middle East / World war have on Dubai?

• Natural Disasters - Earthquakes, giant sand storms, monsoons, drought, floods, etc. Is Dubai safe from these for the next 10, 20, 50, 100 years?

• Bible Prophecy - Those who read and believe the Bible are looking forward to the soon return of the Lord Jesus Christ. His advent will be recognised in the earth by many things, one being a worldwide earthquake of excessive proportions. Zech 14v4. Accordingly, the Burj Dubai will only stand for as long as Christ remains away.

With a long term, wider view the Burj Dubai isn't such a sure proposition.

I heard the UAE imports 90% of it's food.
i'd start building those vertical farms if i were them.;)

Cybeo all those things you mentioned can be summed up as maintenance - cost, ability, will - which I stated in my post anyway

the concrete of Burj Dubai is an even better /stronger/ longer lasting recipe then years ago.

Any info on the tech spec of the concrete? I assume it is bespoke (i.e. specially designed) for the BD

they do buy farms in other countries instead :cheers:

Any info on the tech spec of the concrete? I assume it is bespoke (i.e. specially designed) for the BD

yes it is a special recipe, regular concrete would become solid on it's long way inside the pipes while being pumped up to 500m

Lego Version:cheers:

for Burj Dubai and Taipa 101:banana:

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WOW! Thats awesome! Makes me want to bust out my Legos again!

So, anyone still believes it will be 705 meters tall? :nuts:


... btw, where's elliot, the guy who first broke the news about Emaar running out of money and Burj Dubai topping at 300 meters? :lol:

Wow, I actually remember that schmuck too!!

He believed that this wouldnt go above 300m, and this is a pipe dream we are being fed. I'll bet he is still lurking around here somewhere (like Skytower).
:lol::banana:

yes it is a special recipe, regular concrete would become solid on it's long way inside the pipes while being pumped up to 500m

This is using some of the densest concrete known to man (Freedom Tower is using pratically the same thing).

I cant believe that Im still hearing about this life-cycle nonsense :)

This tower would last at least 500 years as long as its maintained properly.

The ESB definitely isnt going anywhere anytime soon - They will just replace things as needed and maintain it, and I would speculate that the ESB would stand for at least 500 years as well..

Lego version of Burj Dubai its crazy :nuts: and also nice

I see the small fire on the 98th floor. What happened to Burj Dubai on the 98th floor on August 7 compared to August 29 on fire?

I believe someone mentioned that it is probably just soot on the windows from the exhaust of a diesel generator?

at the central pinklao,Bangkok

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/2810890494/sizes/o/

Burj dubai looks so so so tall in this photo.

Any info on the tech spec of the concrete? I assume it is bespoke (i.e. specially designed) for the BD

Ask and you shall receive. :)

http://i38.tinypic.com/neulmo.jpg

Another great set of pics Imre - thank you.

It doesn't look like they are building the pinnacle base that starts 2 sections ago (20B) yet. They will probably wait untill they are ready for jacking - cool.

As I said in an earlier post I think the cranes may not raise themselves up any higher as they don't need to to get ready for jacking - we shall see.

The next weeks and months are gonna be interesting. :nuts:

:cheers:

the floor heights are quite low on average if tower has 100 floors and is at 347.3 metres high right?

which BD was.

can't believe still 124.5 metres to go.

the floor heights are quite low on average if tower has 100 floors and is at 347.3 metres high right?

which BD was.

can't believe still 124.5 metres to go.

well the reason behind that is the use for the bottom part of the tower. hotel floors well as residential floor heights are shorter then office floor heights

Hi all.

Here is a shot of a detail print showing the construction sequence for sections 22A and 22B - the second and third section of tier 22.

http://i34.tinypic.com/2s1ocvr.jpg

We can see that the plan is to erect tiers 21 and 22 before they start the jacking proceedure. So 4 more sections after the one they are working on now - unless they have changed the plan of course.

Should be interesting.

:cheers:

yes it is a special recipe, regular concrete would become solid on it's long way inside the pipes while being pumped up to 500m


^^ Does anyone know the seven secret herbs and spices used to make the concrete so finger licking good :lol:

Must be said, it's a boring looking thing really isn't it?

Must be said, it's a boring looking thing really isn't it?

Are you talking about the lego model or the real thing? I'm not a fan of this building but I gotta say it's far from boring, need I say more. If so I'll just say look at it.

Imre's latest Burj Dubai album, August 29th: 113 pics.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imresolt/sets/72157607022310975/



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:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

WHAT A SWORD!!! :nuts:

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:uh:

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Hi all!
This morning around 07.00AM:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/08-31BurjDubai.jpg

And a superb pic from last week:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/BurjDubai01.jpg

This is my first attempt, if it works I will upload a pic every sunday from the same angle as the first one, would be great to see the progress, hopefully!

Cheers!

The last shot is SHARP :okay:

Imagine a 1metre replica...

Deadly weapon!

thanx dennis, nice to see the cladding moving its way up to upper steel floors, when 17th steel floor is complete, it wil look very thin.

I'm not a fan of this building but I gotta say it's far from boring, need I say more.

How can you possibly not be a fan of it if you are a skyscraper fan? Is it because it was built in Dubai and not NY?

How can you possibly not be a fan of it if you are a skyscraper fan? Is it because it was built in Dubai and not NY?

You know someone said the samething to me, when I said I wasn't a fan of chicago spire it wasn't you was it lol. I didn't say I don't like it, I'm just not a fan thats all.

1 September 07.00AM
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the length of those cranes are ridiculous, did you take that photo denniss?

How can you possibly not be a fan of it if you are a skyscraper fan? Is it because it was built in Dubai and not NY?

:naughty:

Yes I took it this morning on my way to work. I Will try to do it regularly from the same angle from now on, nice to see the progress ;)

^^ very good photo but maybe from next time you could zoom out and start taking pics from that same position, and later when tower completes, you can do time lapse-pic vid.

what will be in those steel floors ? apartaments, offices ? or... nothing ?

nothing for the public or tenants.

what will be in those steel floors ? apartaments, offices ? or... nothing ?

the steel section is primarily known as the "spire".
now you can see why. very thin, unusable space. non inhabitable.
basically floors for access to the "pinnacle".
there are 40 or so of these landings which have no lift acess only staircase.
thus totalling over 200 floors if included with 162 habitable floors.
great shot
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/09-01BurjDubai-2.jpg

sure i could make a house out of 1 of them, maybe a nice 1 bed apartment over 2 floors. Would be good haha

The electrical - plumbing installations etc must be near finish now right ?

Great pic. How much time will it take to reach 700 meters? How high are they now?

thx Cul for the answer, it's very thin and steel 2 cranes on that high, impressive

steel floors are mainly used for communication purpose.

steel floors are mainly used for communication purpose.

Why people keep coming up with "communication purpose" thing? :weird:


NO, they will be NOT be used for any communication purposes.

so what kind of stuff will be there on those steel floors? technical stuff? some antennae?

the steel section is primarily known as the "spire".
now you can see why. very thin, unusable space. non inhabitable.
basically floors for access to the "pinnacle".
there are 40 or so of these landings which have no lift acess only staircase.
thus totalling over 200 floors if included with 162 habitable floors.


Hang on hang on. I thought the pinnacle was the entire steel structure - which was composed of communications array on the lower part, and the spire on the upper part? Know what I mean?


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Edit: my bad, i checked Cul's diagram. I see what he means now

Burj Dubai now a record 688 meters tall and continues to rise

Dubai, UAE; September 1, 2008: Burj Dubai, the iconic tower being developed by Emaar Properties PJSC, has reached a new record height of 688 meters (2,257.2 ft). The tower became the world’s tallest after surpassing North Dakota, USA’s KVLY-TV mast (628.8 metres; 2,063 ft) in April 2008. Currently at over 160 storeys, the tower also has the largest number of floors in any building.

When completed, Burj Dubai will meet all four criteria listed by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH), which classifies the world’s tallest structures. CTBUH measures the height of buildings to the structural top, the highest occupied floor, the top of the roof and the tip of the spire, pinnacle, antenna, mast or flag pole.

Designed by Chicago-based Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM), Burj Dubai is constructed by high-rise experts South Korea’s Samsung Corporation. Turner Construction International is the project and construction manager.

Currently, some 7,500 professionals and skilled workers are employed on-site at Burj Dubai. Cladding work is nearing completion and work has started on the interiors, which will boast superior finishes. The best energy efficient technologies are being deployed to ensure that the iconic building is also a standard for energy usage and recycling of water.

Burj Dubai anchors Emaar’s flagship mega-project, the AED 73 billion (US$20 billion) Downtown Burj Dubai. Described as the new heart of the city, Downtown Burj Dubai is a mixed-use neighbourhood with premium hotels, exclusive business facilities, modern residences, shopping malls and leisure facilities.

www.emaar.com

Another month and it could break 700m?

Another month and it could break 700m?

Even the current month ^^

EMAAR refers (as always) to the top of the completed floor, we here refer to the top of the erected metal beam.

How are the interior finishings getting along? Now that they have sealed the facade on the lower floors, have they installed any of the plant to enable internal fitting out?

EMAAR refers (as always) to the top of the completed floor, we here refer to the top of the erected metal beam.

At least they are up-to-date now! :banana:

^^ Still 4.5 days late. :lol:

I 'll wait the update pics :)

Yes I took it this morning on my way to work. I Will try to do it regularly from the same angle from now on, nice to see the progress ;)

good idea, that would show the speed they've now :)

Hi all.

I see Emaars' reported height is the same as the plans now. I figured the number that was on the official site a few months ago was incorrect. It was only a meter out but it was the first time it was different than the plans.

Going by the steel timeline by OTR we could see the next level (so over 700 m.) by the 12th of Sept.

- The use stated in the plans for levels 156 to 159 includes communications - not sure if that means just for the structure or if it includes communications with the outside world as well.

- Tiers 16 to 18 (the first of the steel section) are just more of the structure but with steel framing instead of reinforced concrete.

- Tiers 19 to 22 are named Roof 1 to 4.

- Tiers 22 to 26 are named Spire 1 to 5 - tier 22 is both roof 4 and spire 1.

- Tiers 27 to 30 are named Pinnacle 1 to 4.

So 2 more sections untill they are working on the spire. The pinnacle and most of the spire are to jacked up into place from what I can gather. It looks like they will erect all 3 sections of tier 22 before they start jacking - we shall see.

Here is the steel section of my plan to help with any particulars.

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The stated use for tier 21 (the one they are working on now) includes roof of the top occupied floor. The window washing systems for tiers 19 to 21 end there so perhaps that is what they are referring to as workers will have to access the platforms. Thing is the prints show window washing outriggers right up to the top of tier 26 terrace. We already know the workers have access right to the top platform and the highest named level is 160 mezz. 3 so why tier 21 usage is stated as roof of the top occupied floor is anyones guess. Interesting though ...

:cheers:

Why people keep coming up with "communication purpose" thing?

NO, they will be NOT be used for any communication purposes.

Because it will be used for communicatin purposes.

seems like even the biggest news companies are very slow with their update infos, all news that was made today says the tower is at 688 metres whereas its 694.5 metres lol.

It's not because they are slow, but because they get this information from Emaar. They will not do a research (and "waste" their time), but simply rely on the information they get from the developer.

It's not because they are slow, but because they get this information from Emaar. They will not do a research (and "waste" their time), but simply rely on the information they get from the developer.

Exactly. Those news papers don't have the time to count every single floor of the Burj Dubai, isn't it?

^^

EMAAR refers (as always) to the top of the completed floor, we here refer to the top of the erected metal beam.

:cheers:

is there a indication of an official openings date? like (i just say something) august 1 2009..?

Burj Dubai's final height will not be made public until it tops out or is completed. That sucks. We'll never see this building top out.

The Burj has not only become the world's tallest structure but also the biggest guessing game here. :lol:

Btw, feels good to see it on top of the world, coz' I work for Emaar! :) Looking forward to more updates till the magic final height is reached.

is there a indication of an official openings date? like (i just say something) august 1 2009..?

maybe in 2010

Imre, you are not very optimistic, are you? :D

Imre, you are not very optimistic, are you? :D
Maybe he know something that us, poor mortals don't... :lol:

I am always optimistic but realistic as well:)

official opening could ealier than official /substantial completion. maybe.

Okay since we have the opening topic i would like to know something....

I am planing to visit Dubai next year in october, (because of a hopefully finished BD and a opened metro line) what do you guys think will the Ob deck be opened until then?...

Burj Dubai's final height will not be made public until it tops out or is completed. That sucks. We'll never see this building top out.

I don't think we have to guess though.... I think 819m is a bit of an open secret, right? :dunno:

is it 688m now??...coz its given in the papers so...!!! man waitin for tht 750m mark!!!cant believe tht a buildin is bein built of such a humungous proportion!!

flickr, september 1st by El enigma

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2819775224_d95cc42d10_o.jpg

^^^^ Oh my god, the tower is a beast!

^^ it is but that photo not taken on 1st sptember.

is it 688m now??...coz its given in the papers so...!!! man waitin for tht 750m mark!!!cant believe tht a buildin is bein built of such a humungous proportion!!

no, it is 694m now ^^

almost finished

Imre and all other guys who are taking pictures:

Get prepared!!! with the most important and definitily most amazing part of the construction is maybe to begin in a few weeks time.. Get your cameras ready, take vacation from the job and be there the whole time!!

we all will definitely give you much credit for that

almost finished

You say so... 8 months to go I guess?

Imre and all other guys who are taking pictures:

Get prepared!!! with the most important and definitily most amazing part of the construction is maybe to begin in a few weeks time.. Get your cameras ready, take vacation from the job and be there the whole time!!

we all will definitely give you much credit for that



:lol:

Imre and all other guys who are taking pictures:

Get prepared!!! with the most important and definitily most amazing part of the construction is maybe to begin in a few weeks time.. Get your cameras ready, take vacation from the job and be there the whole time!!

we all will definitely give you much credit for that

I supose you think there is a place where they are built tha rest of the tower and a helicopter gonna install there ???

not long now for the virgin 700 meter landmark to become reality,the first manmade 700 meter anything ,well done to all.

flickr, september 1st by El enigma

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2819775224_d95cc42d10_o.jpg

It's an older photo. I know it's July 2008.:nuts:

omg :omg: im so afraid of a big earthquake!

Just wow!, about earthquakes...I don´t think that a building like this could be built without the certainty that it could resist a big big one, but it's so huuuge that the possibility is frightening anyway...

Yes, naturally it is designed to resist an earthquake. However, people who are in it at the time will most likely suffer from serious nausea, I bet it does quite a bit of shaking.

This tower would shake and sway a LOT in a quake, but...

They thought of this possibility when they designed this tower even though Dubai
doesnt get many of them (large or small).

It would most likely hold up fine, although Im sure there would need to be concrete repairs in different areas through out the building.

omg :omg: im so afraid of a big earthquake!

dubai is not a sismic city.

^^But there are fault lines over on the other side of the gulf in Iran that if an earthquake strikes and it is big enough, could affect Dubai.

Though the risk is small, I'm sure Adrian and the engineers involved on the project took earthquakes into consideration if there was any risk warranting the research.

Either way, taller buildings are one of the safer places to be during earthquakes because of the period (sorry been awhile since my structures class if I'm wrong on the technical terms). As others said, repairs would certainly need to be done but unless the quake was gargantuan, I don't see any issues here.

I believe an earlier article that had been posted several pages back noted that the wind loads are far greater than seismic design loads on this building anyway. The Channel 5 British documentary that has been linked many times throughout the thread notes that the tower can withstand a 6.0 earthquake because of being made from thick reinforced concrete.

Amazing to see this continue higher and higher! I know it's been said countless times but to think some of us would see a skyscraper reaching this high so early in our lifetimes (or for that matter even during our lives) just leaves me speechless.

Being there when this baby opens in late 2009 or whenever - that's for sure!

Hi there,
some pics from this morning! :)

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/09-03BurjDubai.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/BurjDubai02.jpg

New cladding added here?..

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/BurjDubai03.jpg

Very good progress ^^

The steel structure is getting really thin now. :) :okay:

Great progress. I still cant believe how freaking tall this thing is!

The steel structure is getting really thin now. :) :okay:

just Can't wait 2 more floors when next tier starts, it will be very thin and also the spire work starts.

Just saw this interesting news from yahoo...

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080902/tls-uae-construction-dubai-aeafa1b_1.html

There was coverage of Burj Dubai in some UK papers yesterday

OMG so tall.

So we are one year from completion...

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DUBAI (AFP) - The world's tallest building just got taller -- the Burj Dubai tower in the booming Gulf emirate of Dubai has now reached a height of 688 metres (2,257 feet) and is still growing, developers Emaar said on Tuesday.

It now boasts 160 storeys, the highest skyscraper in the world, Emaar said in a statement.

The skyscraper, set for completion in September 2009, is one of several mega projects taking shape in Dubai, which is a member of the oil-rich United Arab Emirates (UAE) federation.

Burj Dubai, which was started in 2004, overtook Taiwan's Taipei 101 tower as the world's tallest building when it reached 512 metres (1,533 feet) in April 2007.

It became the tallest man-made structure on the planet, when Emaar announced in April that it has surpassed the 629-metre (2,063-foot) KVLY-TV mast in the United States.

Its eventual height remains a closely-guarded secret, though there is speculation it will reach a final height of 900 metres (2,953 feet).

It had been due for completion in the bustling city state at the end of 2008, but Emaar said in June that "finishing touches" had pushed back the date until September next year.

The skyscraper is being built by a consortium involving Arabtec Construction LLC of the UAE, Samsung of South Korea and Besix of Belgium.

Many building projects in Dubai, which is going through a construction frenzy, have been facing delays caused by shortage of building materials and skilled labour.

something relevant is missing here
http://i37.tinypic.com/23k6s6h.jpg

the height is simply madness. it looks beautiful!

something relevant is missing here


^^ What do u mean??

Welcome to the club, DenisS, and thanx for your daily updates. I needed so badly! :nuts:
BTW, it seems eveybody likes IMRE-like watermarks :) :cheers:

something relevant is missing here
They'll install the plane defense turrets there.

Though the risk is small, I'm sure Adrian and the engineers involved on the project took earthquakes into consideration if there was any risk warranting the research.
Yes, after long consideration i finally approved.

There was coverage of Burj Dubai in some UK papers yesterday

I didn't see nothing although I'm daily paper boy in London.

If you have those news can you post it?

and BTW whats with the exclamination mark next to the thread title?

They'll install the plane defense turrets there.

:lol: And why not parking for flying cars !

guys i really dont think it will reach 800 m >>>>
unless it will have 100 m spire

:lol: And why not parking for flying cars !

Yeah, like Coruscant!:banana:

I rarely visited this thread but I am totally surprised how tall this "thing" now. I wonder what is the height now?

I rarely visited this thread but I am totally surprised how tall this "thing" now. I wonder what is the height now?

Its only 5.5 metres away from reaching a new 100th figure of height which no human race have been able to ever reach.

It is 694.5 metres in total right now, and 185.3 metres taller than the tallest completed building taipei 101. The building which is at 185.2 metres I found is mandeville place of philadelphia (proposed) So think of current burj dubai height as taipei 101 + mandeville place.

http://www.mandevilleplace.com/images/Mandevile_Ads_print.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Taipei101.portrait.altonthompson.jpg

^^

Thanks! That's totally amazing! I can't wait to see this completed.

So, it's 688 meters now, right. :cheers:

it is 694.5m ^^, read above ;)

it is 694.5m ^^, read above ;)
But all the papers said it reached 688 yesterday.

Taipei 101 is also a unique structure. I read somewhere about the "huge ball" inside the building. How -the ball- helps the structure?

in the 688m they only count completed floors, but the roof of the next floor which is UC at the moment is at 694m :)

in the 688m they only count completed floors, but the roof of the next floor which is UC at the moment is at 694m :)
Ok, then I get it. :)

Taipei 101 is also a unique structure. I read somewhere about the "huge ball" inside the building. How -the ball- helps the structure?
Due to its flexible suspension and inertia, it follows the rest of the building with a delay just long enough to balance out shaking due to earthquakes. Basically the weight and the building swing against each other, canceling out strong motions in one direction.

Due to its flexible suspension and inertia, it follows the rest of the building with a delay just long enough to balance out shaking due to earthquakes. Basically the weight and the building swing against each other, canceling out strong motions in one direction.
I didnt knew that :) thanks SirAdrian :okay:

I didnt knew that :) thanks SirAdrian :okay:

That 'ball' is called a 'tuned mass damper': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_mass_damper

A video of it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYSgd1XSZXc

Note: this isn't build for the Burj Dubai, it was proposed to build something like that inside, but rejected.

this building is incredible, its height and shape parameters breaks in the world, the most impressive is that according commented buildings have been even bigger in the future.

a greeting from Mexico.

هذا المبنى لا يصدق ، الى ذروته في تشكيل معالم والراحة في العالم ، أكثر وفقا للإعجاب هو ان المباني قد علق حتى اكبر في المستقبل.

تحية من المكسيك.

That 'ball' is called a 'tuned mass damper': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_mass_damper

A video of it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYSgd1XSZXc

Note: this isn't build for the Burj Dubai, it was proposed to build something like that inside, but rejected.

For Burj dubai a water tank I seem.

something relevant is missing here

They'll install the plane defense turrets there

lmao

I don't know if these have been posted here already.

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/09September/Burj_Dubai_0101.jpg

http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2008/burj-dubai-height-2008.09.01.jpg

Its amazing. I wonder how people manage to work at that height!!

Yep Dequal, Dennis himself did. It has just been adjusted in PS.

It seems so high,I think you can see New York from the top of this tower

As for lack Burj Dubai reaches its maximum height?

for the inauguration when it referred to?

It seems so high,I think you can see New York from the top of this tower
yes think so too:nuts:

posted by 234sale http://i36.tinypic.com/kceaf5.jpghttp://i35.tinypic.com/osu6h2.jpg

Just saw this interesting news from yahoo...

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080902/tls-uae-construction-dubai-aeafa1b_1.html

"Its eventual height remains a closely-guarded secret, though there is speculation it will reach a final height of 900 metres (2,953 feet)."
:lol::lol:

^^ - Don't these people read this thread ??? :lol:

:cheers:

[QUOTE=SirAdrian;24848662]They'll install the plane defense turrets there.
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kinda. tho it looks like bumber guard. sometimes serves as orbit for flying cars.

i wonder how and when they install it that they closed everything. hmmnn the cranes must be left there for a while...

Anybody else think the tiers look empty? Is it just a flat roof on each tier, or something to make it a little more ornate?

I wonder if they'll put a small sign or something on the two top cranes (in the cab maybe?) when they are taken down to show that they were used on the worlds tallest building at heights never seen before. It would be nice for both of those cranes to be recognized for what they have done.

Two pics from yesterday evening
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/BurjDubai04.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/BurjDubai05.jpg

And one from this morning. Looks like they're almost ready to begin a new floor! :)

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/dennissegeren/Burj%20Dubai/09-04BurjDubai.jpg

Ps. the logo isn't a Imre Solt logo, it is a burjdubaiskyscraper logo ;)
Greets

Very fast ^^

Only 8 days have elapsed since they've started constructing this floor! (27th - AltinD).

^^ True, and I noticed too that the floor seams almost complete already.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2dbktfl.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/k53fy0.jpg

BZOD (Big zoom of death) :D

Great progress!