That's not a river that's a lagoune at the tipping end of an natural (sea) creek going deep inland. The same sea creek that it is being extended and it will even be connected back to the sea on the other side, creating a free flow canal.

The extended creek will pass some 1 km away at the nearest point.

hi all ...

why i cant view the las page here?

Nostradamas predicted such things- "beware of the east". they will rule the world again!

by that though i think he meant the chinese, not the middle east! i still think he might be right all the same!!

http://www.fotline.com/created/qBX4dHbQWyfQ2Ca.gif:lol::nuts::wave:

How old is this? A year or more?:poke:

by that though i think he meant the chinese, not the middle east! i still think he might be right all the same!!

My high school was 500m from the house Nostradamus lived (the house still exists btw. Not much visited though !). Man, by that place we used to get such good weed there's no wonder that guy had such visions.

"Yeeah, well, sometime some guys from some place west are gonna rule us."

Maybe he meant the germans in 1939 ? That as well might stick.

By the way, any place can be found west of us. Even us, after 40000km ;)

Let's get back to serious things, mind you ?

Wow... Amazzing skyline... love it,

how far Burj Dubai from the river?

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/32942/2003680212205947933_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003680212205947933)

The Burj Dubai is 8 kilometres (5 miles) from where this picture was taken. It is not a river but an inlet called Dubai Creek.

How old is this? A year or more?:poke:

less than a year, i would say january or february 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDreamer
i am a lil confused, is the 818m plan is offically worng? or we're still unsure ?

The 818 (or 919 quoted recently) plan is totally speculative otherwise we would know what is exactly happening at this stage of the concrete top off and the start of the steelwork planning.

A few posts back no one could even say if it was floor 155, 156 or 157 in comparison to Imres pics, so we are just part of the guessing game that is exactly the intention of the developers.

No matter what anyone says about plans being leaked, we just dont know at this stage what the final height will be as it will be subjected to revision 8, and posibly 9 and 10 at this stage of the construction.

To answer your question there is nobody on this thread and outwith the need to know people of Emaar and SOM senior management aware of the final conclusion at this stage.

Anyone that says otherwise?????????

If there was steelwork going up imminent it would be on site now, and delayed shipments subject to performace bond penalties against the defaulting contractor as is the normal contracting principles.

In the near future they will remove those 2 cranes right? But if they remove them and install only 1 crane. How will they manage to fetch up the steel beams the cladding panels and other needed construction material?

Is it possible that they first remain at this height until the cladding catch up?

i beleive that once they top out they can use a smaller hoist thats attached to the roof of the building.

A lot of the main contributors on here have done sterling work, especially Culwulla who takes a sensible and non sensationalist approach. They have also developed intelectual property and run with the 818m plan. I am utterly sure, even if it is not by much, it will be different. The whole point of this project is shock and awe! There are many guys who know better than me, but it is as much about perceiving as judging, it will be great in any guise though!
Btw, I am sure it won't go too high, after all, Sheikh Mo and his family owns Nakheel fully and hence the "possible" Al burj, I think definite. This is a test run for a lot of the technology required for that and to test concrete integrity and pumping to higher levels than seen before. Just my inconsequential thoughts anyway!

All the guys who give so much to this forum, respect.

Excellent pictures Fury and Imre.

Hollie, this link is the company that provides District Cooling to the full Downtown area.

http://www.tabreed.com/

Thanks for the link, awesome info!! :)

The Burj Dubai is 8 kilometres (5 miles) from where this picture was taken. It is not a river but an inlet called Dubai Creek.

i had this old photo below and i thought a river, anyway i love it.

http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/31482/2000175179175493688_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000175179175493688)

That's not a river that's a lagoune at the tipping end of an natural (sea) creek going deep inland. The same sea creek that it is being extended and it will even be connected back to the sea on the other side, creating a free flow canal.

The extended creek will pass some 1 km away at the nearest point.

i had old photo and i thought it's a river,

i have this photo and it shows that in near future you will have river or still you call it (sea creek)?

http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/34042/2004720320302112853_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004720320302112853)

Oh dear, how much is Dubai spenting on this development shown in the map?


Are they too rich or something?

The world is a sad place....to see what's going on in this city, the development, the money etc...and to see what's going on in some African countries...where many people don't get to see the age of 45

^^ Yes Africa suffers greatly but what is so wrong if a country (Dubai) wants to develop itself; should it give all its wealth to another country and let its people, structure, and process of development suffer. Sheikh Mohammed seems to be very charitable to others outside his Emirate. Sky6one the map of Dubai is outdated all of the Palms have had design changes, Dubai waterfront also has changed in design, and all of those 'creeks' are manmade canals with ocean water.

Dubai didn't make African countries poor. Those in Africa that are poor are that way because they are dictatorships. Frankly, I don't know why we need more evidence of how command economies don't work. Communist China>Poor and 70 million dead, Semi-Capitalist China>growing more affluent by the day. The Africans aren't stupid and nor do they lack resources - they are very, very resource rich. But they can't do anything about it if they are ruled by warlords/dictators/communists or whatever. And some African countries aren't that bad any more. I believe Nigeria is growing quite fast.

i had old photo and i thought it's a river,

i have this photo and it shows that in near future you will have river or still you call it (sea creek)?



this is the Arabian Canal , $61 billion dollars project:)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=533235

It's interesting to see what will happen this month. As soon as they built two or three more concrete levels (IF that will happen), it could shatter current diagrams and estimates of BD's final height.

hi all ...

why i cant view the las page here?
That's what I also wonder about. At first a was thinking there are a lot of locked threads. But it must be some other problem.
Edit: Ah, this message is displayed so I guess there is no next page, even though the numbered bar below suggests an extra page.
(sorry to be off-topic)

this is the Arabian Canal , $61 billion dollars project:)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=533235

^^ Thanks for the informantion,

$61 billion dollars Wow.... :shocked:

The world is a sad place....to see what's going on in this city, the development, the money etc...and to see what's going on in some African countries...where many people don't get to see the age of 45

So it isn't fair, but what can u do? No matter how much money u send to Africa, it will never be as modern and well-being as some other countries without some serious changing of attitude, governmental type and education. That's why the donations alone won't help Africa to get up to its feet. In this world people will never be equally wealthy. There will always be the poor and the rich no matter what u do about it.

Should for ex. Dubai start donating huge piles of money by sacrificing its economy and by doing that, also cause damage to all of its citizens? That would be insane.

Dubai didn't make African countries poor. Those in Africa that are poor are that way because they are dictatorships. Frankly, I don't know why we need more evidence of how command economies don't work. Communist China>Poor and 70 million dead, Semi-Capitalist China>growing more affluent by the day. The Africans aren't stupid and nor do they lack resources - they are very, very resource rich. But they can't do anything about it if they are ruled by warlords/dictators/communists or whatever. And some African countries aren't that bad any more. I believe Nigeria is growing quite fast.

What a shallow view on things you have...:ohno:

- Europeans (democracies) plundered and exploited almost every African country for centuries, until well into the 20th century, afterwards leaving them in chaos. You don't need a dictator to ruin a country.
- civil wars are often a result of the artificial borders we forced upon them.
- there were never communist countries in Africa.
- Nigeria is on the virge of a civil war, Lagos has one of the most terrible slums in the world, Nigeria has a corrupt government, etc. Not a very good example, I'd say
- 'they' are not at all very, very resource rich! You seem to think Africa is one big country, but a lot of regions are barren as hell and very poor on resources, Mali for example.
- the point wasn't that Dubai made Africa poor, but that it's a bit dubious that they're throwing money into the water by building ridiculous things like palm-shaped islands, while millions of people are dying of famine... I know it's not gonna change, but it's something to think about when cheering for all these multibillion dollar projects that are often a waste of money...

(Anyway, sorry for going off-topic everyone, had to say this...)

oh sad to hear from africa...maybe someone can post another thread for this africa topic...

What the point of saying and arguing all these things?


There were always be the rich and the poor. End.



Anyway, so can anyone tell me when will this thing start rising again? Its awfully slow and we know the height didn't increase that much at all in the entire month of october.

Awesome new pictures! And this time the cladding progress is very visible also :) Cant wait to see it all cladded up....!

PS: Where's the mods; these last few pages needs some cleaning up...

What a shallow view on things you have...:ohno:

- Europeans (democracies) plundered and exploited almost every African country for centuries, until well into the 20th century, afterwards leaving them in chaos. You don't need a dictator to ruin a country.


If europeans didn`t colonized Africa, odds are that Africa will be probably more poor than it is today. Yes, Europe stoled diamonds, ivory, wood and exploited the natives, but it also put in place thousands of kilometers of railways, dams, factories and so on. Overall, the good points offset the bad ones.

Ethiopia was the only country that was not colonized and guess what, it is one of the poorest african countries nowadays.


- civil wars are often a result of the artificial borders we forced upon them.


There are artificial borders everywhere and you don`t see civil wars between Quebec and Canada, or Catalonia and Spain.


- there were never communist countries in Africa.


Well, I think you are right. But we can neither say that true capitalism was put in place in Africa. Monopolies doesn`t count.


- 'they' are not at all very, very resource rich! You seem to think Africa is one big country, but a lot of regions are barren as hell and very poor on resources, Mali for example.


There are ten times more african countries with resources than african countries without them. Btw, Mali has Timbuktu; a place that could be exploited very well (tourism). And look at Japan, it is a rich country and yet, it is isolated from the rest, it doesn`t have oil and it is very overcrowed.

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- the point wasn't that Dubai made Africa poor, but that it's a bit dubious that they're throwing money into the water by building ridiculous things like palm-shaped islands, while millions of people are dying of famine... I know it's not gonna change, but it's something to think about when cheering for all these multibillion dollar projects that are often a waste of money...
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50 years ago, Dubai was a poor city. They just embraced capitalism and made intelligent decisions and became rich. It is not about giving crumbs to the poor, it is about pushing them to the extremes so they can open their eyes one day.

Back to topic please! that is not a thread about Africa!!

It's interesting to see what will happen this month. As soon as they built two or three more concrete levels (IF that will happen), it could shatter current diagrams and estimates of BD's final height.


We should know in the next couple weeks if the concrete has topped out or if it will rise extra floors... With soil testing being done on the Al Burj site, they may be contemplating going higher.. this is just a guess tho.

so burj Dubai is at level 156?

BAd news for burj dubai ........acording to the burjdubaiskyscraper.com -al burj will be 1050 meters tall "" in 2008 the will start building the foundations : 140 meters deep !!!!------sorry for the bad news !

BAd news for burj dubai ........acording to the burjdubaiskyscraper.com -al burj will be 1050 meters tall "" in 2008 the will start building the foundations : 140 meters deep !!!!------sorry for the bad news !

i already know that and it isnt bad news...

Al Burj and Burj Dubai are both kings off construction...

Al Burj is the sheiks plan to rape and strip a country who wants the WTB so it isnt forming a risk to the BD.

Cheers :cheers:

BD might just go higher. We shall wait and see

BD might just go higher. We shall wait and see

Not quite sure but it looked from a distance that the cranes had their height jacked up again today.

The world is a sad place....to see what's going on in this city, the development, the money etc...and to see what's going on in some African countries...where many people don't get to see the age of 45

Oh dear. :nuts:

On the site of besix said : desing and build of a tower 750m high comprising: podium basement -3 levels; Tower:162 levels + spire.

But probable it wil be higher :)

http://i15.tinypic.com/5yd8860.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3338/oct07hallawiroof13kt9.jpg

Wow, that view is quite impressive.

Why build the Burj Dubai and then beat your own record? It just doesn't make sense...why not just make the Burj Dubai 1000+ meters? But you can't do that now.


Oh wait, sorry the Sheik shouldn't build either because, I forgot, it's his duty to feed all of Africa. (btw that was sarcasm)

i think some ppl are just jealous that dubai is getting way too rich for their liking. did anybody point any fingers all this while when europe north america develped countries mostly had too much wealth and africa and asia etc developing countries too little wealth? NO!
dubai never colonized africans they dont have the same responsibility towards africans that europeans north americans etc should have (north americans took african slaves involuntarily).

also dubai's investments in africa are noteworthy probably surpassing many similar sized developed countries' investments. all this while before china started tradiing with africa big, usa mostly ignored africa.

i think some ppl are just jealous that dubai is getting way too rich for their liking. did anybody point any fingers all this while when europe north america develped countries mostly had too much wealth and africa and asia etc developing countries too little wealth? NO!
dubai never colonized africans they dont have the same responsibility towards africans that europeans north americans etc should have (north americans took african slaves involuntarily).

also dubai's investments in africa are noteworthy probably surpassing many similar sized developed countries' investments. all this while before china started tradiing with africa big, usa mostly ignored africa.

I'm jealous, why can't we get a supertall in Austin???? :gaah::gaah::gaah::gaah:



:cheers:


Also thanks for that beautiful shot Dubai_Steve. :)

The last photo is simply stunning!:eek:

November 3rd:

http://i22.tinypic.com/2gvj6ol.jpg

how tall is it now ??

^lev156/586m

its not sad about a tower being built higher then Burj Dubai. but i dodnt hink al burj or what ever will look as good as Burj Dubai. Its a superior design.plus we are lucky to see somehting this tall already. it took many years to slowly surpass sears and petronas and finally Taipei101, but all these are aroud 500m high not 800m, so Burj Dubai will always be famous for being such a ground breaking skyscraper. not only tallest building, but tallest man made object.
lets just talk about Burj dubai and not whats going to be built higher or the starving in Africa. theres threads for that.
cheers

It is looking monstrous!

I would love to see more aerial shots.

Hi all.

Picasa - David:

07 10 15

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/31051/2003182002099869175_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003182002099869175)

07 10 18

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/33216/2003173901232048719_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003173901232048719)

http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/31367/2003140911100320143_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003140911100320143)

Blog - 07 10 20

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/31011/2003100533303510193_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003100533303510193)

Picasa - joe - 07 10 27

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/31900/2003123590004849849_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003123590004849849)

Flickr - sickmary - 07 11 02

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Blog - 07 11 04

http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/33474/2003192064882474133_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003192064882474133)

Enjoy. :cheers:

I still hoping for a close 900m height.




Anyway before the end of this year BD should be able to hit 624m right?

^why? ive seen final spire plan dated only 1 month ago and its definately going to be 819m or 835m above slab.
will start to look out of proportion if it goes any higher.
there already 300m higher then tallest building or 200m higher then tallest structure.

I still hoping for a close 900m height.




Anyway before the end of this year BD should be able to hit 624m right?

a little more then 624m, if the steel section gets built in tall sections

I love it I cant belive theyre will be somthing taller then this

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3338/oct07hallawiroof13kt9.jpg

:nuts:

sorry to post it again,

but it's magic...:crazy:

it is the same drawing picture,
jast amazzzzing :drool:

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/31382/2000712180606447078_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000712180606447078)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3338/oct07hallawiroof13kt9.jpg

OMG Dubai_steve !!!! is that shot real or photoshoped ?!!!
ITs the most beatiful shot of dubai i've ever seen, so breathtaking.. I want one in high res for my background image !!!

Fury, I see you have changed the floor heights on your new diagrams compared with the old ones you sent me a while ago. How come they are different? Podium 3 is the first I noticed - 4m now 3.7m. Are those the final sizes?
Thanks :lol:

http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/31807/2005198342163987402_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005198342163987402)

I'm so excited about the works on the steel section. Will they finish all the other concrete parts first?

^lev156/586m

its not sad about a tower being built higher then Burj Dubai. but i dodnt hink al burj or what ever will look as good as Burj Dubai. Its a superior design.plus we are lucky to see somehting this tall already. it took many years to slowly surpass sears and petronas and finally Taipei101, but all these are aroud 500m high not 800m, so Burj Dubai will always be famous for being such a ground breaking skyscraper. not only tallest building, but tallest man made object.
lets just talk about Burj dubai and not whats going to be built higher or the starving in Africa. theres threads for that.
cheers


Nicely put.
This building will remain famous because in my humble opinion it is simply beautiful and will always be viewed as such. Perhaps it will be surpassed but I think it will attain the kind of status that the Chrysler building has desite being raidly surpassed by the empire state.
For me the slender design and the choice of cladding is perfect for this location and will make the building sparkle like a silver needle. At ground level the way it's base will be surrounded by water will avoid the windswept desolate look that many tall buiding have at ground level while still allowing it enough separation from its neighbours to truly stand out.
I'm sure there will be many taller buildings. in fact I hope there will. But right now though I think this building is `the one` and I cant wait for it to be finished so I can come and visit it :)

Thanks for all the updates everyone provides on here. i have been really enjoying following the progress.

I'm so excited about the works on the steel section. Will they finish all the other concrete parts first?

right.no steel, until all concrete work is done.

Watch carefully this picture:

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/31051/2003182002099869175_rs.jpg


Thisd is VERY important, especially comnsidering that it was taken on Oct. 15th.

^^^why is it important????

^^ I'll let it to someone else who might have shown attention to the thread.

Eversendai at the site:)

^^ I'll let it to someone else who might have shown attention to the thread.

Well spotted Altin. How many of us stared at that pic missing the bus.

not really a surprise. hopefully this wasnt posted before


published in the middle of october.

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Malaysia's Eversendai Corporation has won a US $14.7 million (AED 53.9 million) contract from Samsung Corporation for the structural steelworks on Emaar's Burj Dubai.

Work on the steel structure is set to begin this week - making Eversendai the first company in the world to carry out steel works at a 555.3-metre height.

"We can confirm that Samsung has taken on Eversendai to carry out the steel works for the Burj Dubai and to construct the spire at the top of the building," said So Young, spokeswoman, Samsung.

Eversendai will require more than 4,000 tonnes of structural steel for the Burj Dubai.

The company will build the spire from the inside of the building, and will then use a hydraulic pump to extend the spire out of the top. This will mean that the height is adjustable.

"The finished spire will actually be dropped down and built inside the building, and will be jacked up to full height; when it's ready the height will be locked off," said Fred Durie, executive director, Emaar.

"The project is scheduled to be finished next summer, but I think they may finish earlier with the way things are going."

Eversendai has worked on other major projects with Samsung, including Dubai Festival City and Burj Al Arab.

The company is also working on the Dubai Mall project.

Eversendai has completed more than 32 jobs in the Middle East in the last 11 years.

In September, Burj Dubai surpassed Toronto's CN Tower to become the tallest free-standing structure in the world.

According to the most recent estimation, the tower stands at 555.3 metres.


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The Burj Dubai looks better everyday.

all they need to add is 375.6 feet above this core. then you got your self 701m. but if you look at the core compard to that ladder, it's pretty big. the white lines represent what is left as of now
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1547/bddoka37wvau7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.burjdubai.com/pdf/Burj%20Dubai%20Newsletter%20eBrochure.pdf
Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Hasnt been yet. Thx Bikes:cheers:

wow, awesome shot of the core, do you have more such pics?

i'm still looking for more ZZ-II, i was just showing how big the core is. and what they need to add atop of it to come to 701m. but when i find more i will post them ;)

thx helghast :), i love shots of the core from above

with all the calculations and pic's of the hotel floor plan and more. i've calculated that the core is a little more then 2,500 sqft. that's excluding the cure plates. in the pic's the core does look very tiny, but it is actual quite big.

Awesome pic helghast... :okay:

I'm wondering about something... there's this triangular gap in the middle of the Burj and I think it's going up all the way from the bottom to the top! Are there any ceilings, or whatever in between or is it THE HIGHEST ATRIUM IN THE WORLD???
I mean that would be CRAZY, imagine a 600m high atrium!!! :lol:

I hope someone in this thread knows what I mean...


And please leave out the political stuff of this thread, it's about a skyscraper, nothing else!!! :ohno:

dubai is amazing!!!

http://i22.tinypic.com/23w1jwl.jpg

Putting those lights on would make it look brilliant!

Anyway, i did a quick google, took me to these pictures which i stuck together.
This is how much Dubai has changed in the space of 14 years:
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3274/dubai9105ov0.png

thats great news about the steel section about to start. i wonder if it will be brought up girder by girder like SWFC or large segments which are then simply bolted together? this will be quick way of construction.
should be a good couple of weeks watching new type of construction of mighty burjD.

In the brochure of BD there is a page Welcome home to a new lifestyle... The picture under text shows elevator buttons numbered 181..188... maybe sign that it will go higher than 162 fl? :nuts:

^^ yeah i notice that to.

i was looking thru my pic's and i came across this.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9608/bd324vikq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hmmm... I feel like theres something going on...

thats great news about the steel section about to start. i wonder if it will be brought up girder by girder like SWFC or large segments which are then simply bolted together? this will be quick way of construction.
should be a good couple of weeks watching new type of construction of mighty burjD.

What do you think about my idea. that they use cranes and helicopters to bring up the steel? Remember the last sections of CN were also brought up with a heli!

I dont think helis will be used. Based on the construction plans we have seen, they will use cranes. Also consider the pinnacle will be built within the spire so there wont be a need to raise the steel sections to the maximum height, they will simply be hydraulically raised.

Awesome pic helghast, i havent seen that one before =)

(p.s Killzone rules)

awesome BD:)

I'm not gonna lie, I'd like to see how tiny a Skycrane would look next to the building..

http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/aviation/aircraft/ch-54.jpg

Burj Dubai strike enters sixth day
by Dylan Bowman and Conrad Egbert on Tuesday, 06 November 2007
The Burj Dubai overtook Taiwan's 509-metre tower Taipei 101 as the tallest building in the world in June. (Getty Images)
The Burj Dubai overtook Taiwan's 509-metre tower Taipei 101 as the tallest building in the world in June. (Getty Images)

A strike by labourers working on the site of the world’s tallest building entered its sixth day on Tuesday, with protesters refusing to go back to work unless demands for better salaries are met, sources have told Construction Week.

Thousands of labourers employed by Dubai’s largest construction company Arabtec – about a third of the Burj Dubai’s workforce - downed tools last Wednesday and have been holed up in their accommodation since then.

A consortium involving Arabtec, South Korea’s Samsung and Besix of Belgium is building the Burj Dubai, which in June overtook Taiwan's 509-metre tower Taipei 101 as the tallest building in the world.
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Sources close to the development said the labourers have been offered a pay rise, but been told it could take anywhere between a week and two months before they receive it.

Labourers, many of them Indian, are demanding an immediate increase in their salaries, claiming it is not worth them going back to work for the money they make because of the tumbling value of the US dollar against the rupee.

The UAE pegs its currency against the dollar, which is close to a nine-year low against the rupee.

Workers have vowed to remain put until their salaries are raised by at least $55. The company is currently paying unskilled workers $109 a month while skilled ones get $163, according to newswire AP.

It is common for construction workers in the UAE to make as little as 400 dirhams ($109) a month.

The ongoing strike, one of several recent protests by construction workers in Dubai, has focused worldwide attention on the plight of labourers in the UAE, where strikes are illegal and trade unions are banned.

UAE Cabinet on Sunday called for an urgent review of construction workers’ salaries, sparking speculation that the government could establish a minimum wage.

Venu Rajamany, India's Consul General in Dubai, said a government-set minimum wage looked increasingly probable.

"Setting a minimum wage could be one of the solutions to the problem," Rajamany said, quoted AP.

"When the labour ministry comes up with a figure after consultations with companies, that figure will be a benchmark below which no company can go."

Sources said work at on the Burj Dubai is still ongoing and the strike has not had a major impact on construction.

The Arabtec employees work at a hotel site that is part of the Burj Dubai, according to AP. Arabtec declined to comment.

The Arabtec employees work at a hotel site that is part of the Burj Dubai, according to AP. Arabtec declined to comment.

LOL, I love how the media love exploiting things :D

Can anyone confirm this has affected the Burj Dubai Tower and not one of the multitudes of hotels being built within the Burj Dubai Complex? The ambiguity of this article is annoying...

The company is currently paying unskilled workers $109 a month while skilled ones get $163, according to newswire AP.


I can't belive that anyone can offer such low money for work in such bad conditions. HIGEST building in world built by SLAVES!!!

Thats the dark side of the construction boom in Dubai. Or do you think they could build so much with normal salarys? BTW I am sorry for the workers which will install last claddding parts at more than 700m this must be awful.

I can't belive that anyone can offer such low money for work in such bad conditions. HIGEST building in world built by SLAVES!!!

What the fuck do you talking about?! Oh my God, I hate this kind of hypocrites...

All USA is built on occupied Indian land with black slavery, and they call them selfs "homeland of freedom". :ohno:
European countries (mostly UK) also made their great wealth by robbing African, American and Asian lands.

So why don't you criticize them?

By the way, average payment in Pakistan is $63 per month.

Because we are "zivilized" and why should a modern country do the same mistakes like previous countrys have done. I thin that humanity and people are more worth than every project every city in this world. You cant handle people like that!

I can't belive that anyone can offer such low money for work in such bad conditions. HIGEST building in world built by SLAVES!!!

They are paid six times their national avaerage. Not bad in comparison to their homeland.

So start with home economics before setting upon Dubai.

Guys, there is a separate thread for this discussion.

Gulf News Property page today: Armani Residence 1088 sq/ft One bedroom
AED 10,660,000.00......any offers?

Gulf News Property page today: Armani Residence 1088 sq/ft One bedroom
AED 10,660,000.00......any offers?

Wow, we gonna call this tower Burj al bourgeois!

By the way, average payment in Pakistan is $63 per month.

who the hell told you the average income in pak is Rs63. Its atleast Rs300 for hard labor per day Pakistan is a much cheeper place to live than many countries... I know this coz i got my house build around a year ago...
and laborers in tall building constructions are paid better...

who the hell told you the average income in pak is Rs63. Its atleast Rs300 for hard labor per day Pakistan is a much cheeper place to live than many countries... I know this coz i got my house build around a year ago...
and laborers in tall building constructions are paid better...


$$$$$$$$$$$$$ quoted by Croat, and why come here if paid better in Pakistan, I cant work that one out!

What the fuck do you talking about?! Oh my God, I hate this kind of hypocrites...

All USA is built on occupied Indian land with black slavery, and they call them selfs "homeland of freedom". :ohno:
European countries (mostly UK) also made their great wealth by robbing African, American and Asian lands.

So why don't you criticize them?

Not really, only about 3% of americans owned slaves if i remember it correctly, most of them owned by an even smaller portion of people. Many opposed slavery at that time altough the views on it and reasons were different. Europe and America was built on ideological developement, architechture, culture, intellectual freedom, scientific developement and various other developements. European countries as nations actually LOST money on colonies more often than they gained anything, it was big private companies which made profits from colonies... and the "land of the free home of the brave" is meant to point at the constitution and principles of true freedom and personal rights, but in todays america politicians dont seem to care about that constitution.

Still when it comes to this strike and wages in UAE. I think that its good that they do a strike, unfortunately there are so many people (on that subcontinent) willing to work there for these wages, but the economic developement is reaching out to more people and i the long run it will be impossible to keep these low wages, and i think the companies will be pressured to pay higher wages for construction workers.

Guys, there is a separate thread for this discussion.

I totally agree. Let's go back to the Burj Dubai excitement.

But sometimes it is really hard to jump on such facts.
To clarify, workers are offered certain degree of housing, certain facilities, transportation, and probably food, etc. packages in addition to their nominal salaries (which is not really much, though they can afford to transfer the bulk of it back home, and hence the issue is the declining value of the Dirham towards the Rupee)
As such, labor-slavery, as someone would call it, do exist. The main issue is that it is not systematic nor orchestrated by the government, as many comments here and there in this forum tend to reflect. Quite the contrary. The government is tackling the issue quite from its roots, by building labor housing and proposing regulations, which might conflict with its vision to enhance the business climate and give investors the upperhand in increasing their profits.
To my understanding, there is, and will be, handling of cases where abuse or un-payment occur, probably within the context of an overall regulation/law. You should give it sometime to get it in place, but it surly is hard to get businesses on board.
BTW, what is the proposed minimum wage, if any, in Dubai-UAE? I heard there will be, definitely higher than $109.

06/November/2007

Burj Dubai from the Goldcrest Views roof (Jumeirah Lakes Towers) , apr 18-19 km

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it is barely visible from there, thanx to constructions dust :ohno:

Not really, only about 3% of americans owned slaves if i remember it correctly, most of them owned by an even smaller portion of people. Many opposed slavery at that time altough the views on it and reasons were different. Europe and America was built on ideological developement, architechture, culture, intellectual freedom, scientific developement and various other developements. European countries as nations actually LOST money on colonies more often than they gained anything, it was big private companies which made profits from colonies... and the "land of the free home of the brave" is meant to point at the constitution and principles of true freedom and personal rights, but in todays america politicians dont seem to care about that constitution.

Dude, that was stupid! :bash:

By the way, average payment in Pakistan is $63 per month.

$63.00 the folks in the Philippines would feel rich making $63.00 a month. I spend a month in South East Asia back in May of this year. And the people who had jobs made $1.00 a day, $30.00 a month! and for the masses that don't have jobs they live in one room shacks and eat fruit.....

No matter how bad you think these workers have it, they could be at home in a shack eating fruits.

Me in front of a stream in the mountains of southern Mindanao Philippines, the fine folks in the background are bathing and doing there laundry on rocks.
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A man who lives in a 1 room shack made of tarp and scrap wood, this will in the end be fire wood for cooking.
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So until you have been there on the ground, and have seen just how bad things really are... keep your $.02 opinion to your self! while it may be bad it could always be MUCH worse for these people.

No matter how bad you think these workers have it, they could be at home in a shack eating fruits.


In June, the government offered, no questions asked, a free one-way plane tickets to illegal workers hoping to leave. They have since been swamped by 280,000 workers who, fed up with a rising cost of living and low wages, were ready to go home.

Associated Press
This is thread about Dubai: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=541046

I have just logged in to check the thread, gone to last page, and I am confronted by utterly irrelevant posts and pix AGAIN! We are now moving into a very exciting phase of the BD, lets discuss this. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT WAGES IN PAKISTAN!!!!!!!! This is not a moral debate!

This thread has gone to shit ... where's the moderators ??? Time to get off your arses and prune this thread.

Nice view from goldcrest. I suppose the Burj will be a lot more visible when it's done, cladded up and all shiny :)

Speaking of cladding - what is the estimated finishing date for that one? or T/O on the steel section for that matter?

Ok. People, what number will the last flor suitable for human have in BD?

maybe somebody knows what is this mysterious Emaar plot in Dubailand?

Burj Dubai 2 ? :)


18/October/2007

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Damn! They're just building a fence in the desert in the middle of nowhere, fantastic! And we're watching it.. being curious... Lets hope for something big and incredible! ;)
Cheers

maybe somebody knows what is this mysterious Emaar plot in Dubailand?

Burj Dubai 2 ?


Haven't we discussed this already in the UAE section ... It will be the LOOF LIRPA Tower. :D

I couldnt fit my swimming pool there, let alone a wtb :)

^^ Shut up Bikes and don't be picky. :D

I couldnt fit my swimming pool there, let alone a wtb :)

At least it's more relevant than showing holiday pictures from the Philippines...

I'm looking forward to see a thread cleanup from the moderators

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3274/dubai9105ov0.png
those buildings standing alone look really idiotic :lol:

Hope it isn't posted yet, but this site is really cool:
http://www.eikongraphia.com/?p=1952
A story about the Burj Dubai, with some nice pictures from Imre :D
But also some new and very spectacular stuff about hopefully some future developments in Dubai.. Architecture lovers: check it out!

Dubai central,main square in Deira

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GLS / 1962-63 / Dubai / United Arab Emirates

and Dubai Creek

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GLS / 1962-63 / Dubai / United Arab Emirates

^^ Nah, nothing of interest, relevance or new in there.

nice cars lol

Come on guys... stop the off-topic!!!!!

A night pic of the BD... one hour ago... the BD is a bit higher than the rest... :lol:

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/31438/2006259313832974182_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006259313832974182)

November 6th by Imclaney (flickr):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2279/1891909777_4988ec87bd_o.jpg

^^ thats a great picture for my birthday!
:cheers:

Will there be any mass transit linked to Burj Dubai? Subway, light-rail, monorail?

the 70km metro link will run along the highway (Sheikh Zayed rd) near Burj Dubai mall i think?

http://www.subways.net/uar/metro1.jpg

the 70km metro link will run along the highway (Sheikh Zayed rd) near Burj Dubai mall i think?

http://www.subways.net/uar/metro1.jpg

wowoooww amazing pic...where is that? is that true?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ quoted by Croat, and why come here if paid better in Pakistan, I cant work that one out!

Because they are misinformed. By the time they get to Dubai, it's too late. Their passports are taken away and then have to pay off the loan that the construction company had them take for all the expenses to move them to Dubai. And with $5 that they make a day, they'll never be able to pay off that loan, and they can't just leave without a passport. Therefore they are wage slaves.

wow, going up fast, cant wait until the facade covers the majority of the building

Yeah, nice progress already

Because they are misinformed. By the time they get to Dubai, it's too late. Their passports are taken away and then have to pay off the loan that the construction company had them take for all the expenses to move them to Dubai. And with $5 that they make a day, they'll never be able to pay off that loan, and they can't just leave without a passport. Therefore they are wage slaves.

I highly doubt these claims. I think you have some facts mixed up.

Workers are NOT recruted in India, Pakistan, Nepal, Egypt, Philipine, China, Vietnam from the companies themselvs. Local Recruting Companies do that and if anything is paid upfront (which is often the case) it is to these recruting companies.

However paying big amounts to migrate and then struggling to pay that back, finding not was promissed or hoped for, is a worldwide phenomen no matter where the destination is, being Middle East, Asia and even to the so called developed, civilised, champions of democracy, human rights and fair treatment of he West.

I come from a place where around 1 million people (30% of population) migrated during the '90s and I know how they did it and what they faced. I considered pointless to migrate myself, knowing the reality and my patient was reward when the company I work with one day decided to transfer me first in an EU country and then in Dubai, taking care of my accomodation and othere expences.

I highly doubt these claims. I think you have some facts mixed up.

Uh, no. These facts have been very well documented. Do some research.

Will there be any mass transit linked to Burj Dubai? Subway, light-rail, monorail?

the 70km metro link will run along the highway (Sheikh Zayed rd) near Burj Dubai mall i think?

http://www.subways.net/uar/metro1.jpg

yes, it runs near the burj mall

wowoooww amazing pic...where is that? is that true?

Dubai Metro, LRT running both underground and on elevated track (as in the picture) is under construction and it is planed to open the first line by September 2009. It will look like in that picture and the trucks run some 500 meters or less from Burj Dubai (not the Mall which is further away) and there will be a Burj Dubai Metro Station that will be connected with the tower's plaza with an covered and air conditioned walkway.

Just look at the aerial pictures (but not only) and you'll see the track and their positioning compared to the tower. :)

I have a question :
Presumably a dampening system will be employed to prevent sway in the building? At this height though - despite the sledner design - the wind pressure could be pretty emense. DDoes anyone know how the structure would cope in the event of a failure of the dampening system. I assume the stuctural integrity would remain intact but severe oscilations could cause huge internal damage at the higher levels. I'd be interested to know what the maximum lateral movement at the pinacle is calculated to be in a worst case scenario - i.e. sustained winds, no dampening.

Thanks

Given that the eversendai bus was on the scene some time ago, I wanted to know if there is any sign yet of metalwork on the construction site? Just cant wait to see a complete change in construction, materials and progress.

p.s.
. vanhenrik???
iven thou it mite seem streinge, I mis his speling:nuts:

Given that the eversendai bus was on the scene some time ago, I wanted to know if there is any sign yet of metalwork on the construction site? Just cant wait to see a complete change in construction, materials and progress.

p.s.
. vanhenrik???
iven thou it mite seem streinge, I mis his speling:nuts:

Theres nothing noticable with regards to the steelwork going up at the moment

i think if the dampner failed ,the main super structure would stay intact. You have to remember Burj Dubai is the tallest concrete structure ever built! @ nearly 600m high. the former tallest all concrete structure was a chimney is russia nearly 200m shorter.
It would be so strong especially where the lower section of tower meets the slab and piling.
i think steel structure may start this weekend. there isnt much of the concrete to go.

Maybe it is already done. Just formwork to be removed.

Anyone know why the cladding appears to have halted the last few weeks ??

I highly doubt these claims. I think you have some facts mixed up.

Especially taking your passport, because no-one can except for the country of origin.

i found these very HQ pictures from 29.october 2007:)
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/33956/2003270941787164555_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003270941787164555) http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/34688/2003245196483202226_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003245196483202226) http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/33273/2003240171664207154_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003240171664207154) http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/31856/2003294785108045729_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003294785108045729)

Great pics :cheers:

maybe somebody knows what is this mysterious Emaar plot in Dubailand?

Burj Dubai 2 ? :)




Emaar secret weapon against Nakheel's Al Burj.


A mile high tower? :lol:

OMG Dubai_steve !!!! is that shot real or photoshoped ?!!!
ITs the most beatiful shot of dubai i've ever seen, so breathtaking.. I want one in high res for my background image !!!

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I have a question :
Presumably a dampening system will be employed to prevent sway in the building? At this height though - despite the sledner design - the wind pressure could be pretty emense. DDoes anyone know how the structure would cope in the event of a failure of the dampening system. I assume the stuctural integrity would remain intact but severe oscilations could cause huge internal damage at the higher levels. I'd be interested to know what the maximum lateral movement at the pinacle is calculated to be in a worst case scenario - i.e. sustained winds, no dampening.

Thanks


This tower employs Tuned Sloshing Dampers (TSD) which is basically a concrete tank half filled with water near the top. Inherently, it is hard to imagine how a TSD would fail. Also, keep in mind that the tower's "stepping" design was partly based on wind studies that recommended the wind be directed upward and around the tower. Basically, the set-back design of the tower manipulates the wind forces to relieve direct sustained pressure against any one "side" and therefore minimize severe wind sway.

amazzing photo!!!waaau
what is an island on the left-down corner?

The Palm Jumeirah

my god!!!! look at those pics... stunning!!!!!! :eek2:

I hope they whip those God damn slaves hard when they start working again!!
I cant wait to see this building get even bigger!!!

^^ :eek2:

I hope they whip those God damn slaves hard when they start working again!!

are you crazy or what?? :bash:

i think if the dampner failed ,the main super structure would stay intact. You have to remember Burj Dubai is the tallest concrete structure ever built! @ nearly 600m high. the former tallest all concrete structure was a chimney is russia nearly 200m shorter.
It would be so strong especially where the lower section of tower meets the slab and piling.
i think steel structure may start this weekend. there isnt much of the concrete to go.

I remember reading a while back that there will be up to a 1.5 meter sway, but since there is no reference point, the occupants will not likely notice it a whole lot. I dont think the building would sway much more than that even if the dampening system failed, because they planned for things like that to happen and implemented it in the design. It may be slender at the top, but its definitely not weak. Also because its so high up, it looks smaller too. Because a building has never been built so tall like this before, its likely that they may have over-engineered the structure (like the ESB when it was the tallest during its time).

I have said before that I believe the central core is around 5000 sq feet, but at the top where the central core tapers, it could be anywhere from the
2500-3500 sq foot range. I still think its big enough for a few offices, if not one big office.

There will probably only be 3 passenger elevators, and one freight elevator that will service that height (on top of the stairs). I still think that they are going to end up building office floors within the steel section until it gets almost to the pinnacle.. maybe 185-190 floors?? it will definitely be over 200 if you count the landings within the base of the spire and the spire itself (I mentioned this back when this building was only 35 floors tall).

I dont mean to sound like a broken record but I hope they decide to build a more "exclusive" VIP obs deck at around the top of the steel structure..

this is the point that we have been waiting for, during the past 2 years. its at the point where the concrete will transition to steel and we get to see if they actually do build the concrete higher (which I hope). Hard to believe that there will be offices above the 600m point!! :cheers::banana:

are you crazy or what?? :bash:

Ignore the schmucks people.. or trolls that is... if anybody wants to talk about this shit with the "slave labor," then create a thread in the skybar!! :ohno:

I hope they whip those God damn slaves hard when they start working again!!
I cant wait to see this building get even bigger!!!

OH WOW! I can't believe you just said that! Are you serious or you are just spamming? :ohno::ohno::ohno:

I hope they whip those God damn slaves hard when they start working again!!
I cant wait to see this building get even bigger!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I hope they whip those God damn slaves hard when they start working again!!
I cant wait to see this building get even bigger!!!
:lol: :lol:

http://www.primaryhistory.org/data/images/width300/Pyramidslavesweb-232.jpg

That silver cladding is looking amazing. Even better than in the renders, may I say.

This tower employs Tuned Sloshing Dampers (TSD) which is basically a concrete tank half filled with water near the top. Inherently, it is hard to imagine how a TSD would fail. Also, keep in mind that the tower's "stepping" design was partly based on wind studies that recommended the wind be directed upward and around the tower. Basically, the set-back design of the tower manipulates the wind forces to relieve direct sustained pressure against any one "side" and therefore minimize severe wind sway.

Thanks, I hadnt heard of that. Just had a read about it on a few sites and its a very elegant solution. I agree that its hard to imagine it failing - other than a rupture in the system I guess.
It seems perfectly suited for this type of building too given it is associated with spires and suspension bridges normally.

Like Culwulla pointed out its a pretty robust structure too. I coudnt imagine it being compromised.

Bring on the steel :)

^^ They worked harder than Dubai Construction workers.

I hope they whip those God damn slaves hard when they start working again!!
I cant wait to see this building get even bigger!!!
dude that's got to be one of the funniest things i read on this thread for month's, people need to grow a sense of humour. This is a website about skyscrapers and not about slave labour wright?? I'm amazed by this building, it's going to be stunning when it's finished. Everyday i'm somehow drawn to this thread to check for new picture's and info about it. Dam i'll go over and help finish it.

I hope they whip those God damn slaves hard when they start working again!!
I cant wait to see this building get even bigger!!!

:rofl:
:rofl:

lol, ramz registered just to show his approval :D

We havent had any real news for the past week. Im guessing the form work is unchanged and our insiders have mentioned there is no sign of steel on the site. There was also an unconfirmed report from a user about a delay in the shipping of steel work.

Can anyone say for certain the curtain wall is not moving? Can anyone prove it has moved?

Especially taking your passport, because no-one can except for the country of origin.

look it up

Thousands of migrant builders in Dubai remained on strike on Wednesday, including many at the world's tallest tower, the emirate's construction giant Arabtec acknowledged.

"The situation has not changed and the workers are still on strike," Arabtec spokesman Ammar Tuqan told AFP when asked about the status of the firm's 34,000 staff.

He declined to go into further details but told the Dubai state-owned daily Emarat Al-Youm that only "around 1,500 Arabtec staff resumed work on Tuesday after a strike now running for nearly two weeks".

The company is "trying to persuade other workers to return to their jobs," Tuqan added.

The paper said that the "whole" of the company's workforce had joined the action for better wages and working conditions.

Burj Dubai is still under construction but it overtook Taiwan's Taipei 101 tower as the world's tallest building when it reached 512 metres (1,533 feet) in June. Its eventual height remains a closely guarded secret.

full article: http://www.africasia.com/services/news/newsitem.php?area=mideast&item=071107151942.70q87d03.php

..... There will probably only be 3 passenger elevators, and one freight elevator that will service that height (on top of the stairs). I still think that they are going to end up building office floors within the steel section until it gets almost to the pinnacle.. maybe 185-190 floors?? it will definitely be over 200 if you count the landings within the base of the spire and the spire itself (I mentioned this back when this building was only 35 floors tall). .....

Indica, thank you. For some reason I felt that I was the only person that believes there will be more floors in the steel section. Many people are saying that the Burj Dubai's floors will soon end. I, just like you, believe that they will continue into the steel structure. Many people seem to think that the whole steel section is the spire. I think that the whole spire will be in the steel section, but there will also be floors just below that (still apart of the steel section).
I am glad you brought this up. Hopefully it can create more descent discussions.
Personally, I think that the Burj Dubai will be exactly 200 floors. Even if the floor area is really small, it will still be called the 200th floor.

It's moving so slow. Slower than mechanical floors. Wtf is going on? Could it be that the strike is causing a much bigger impact on the construction than officials want us to believe?

^^ Changing from concrete to steel is a big deal, bigger than mechanical floors I would think. Didn't the SWFC stop for like a month when they transitioned from concrete core to steel?

Is there any evidence that they're actually moving on to steel now?

^^ Changing from concrete to steel is a big deal, bigger than mechanical floors I would think. Didn't the SWFC stop for like a month when they transitioned from concrete core to steel?

Very good point there mate.

Just need to be patient guys and gals...

Is there any evidence that they're actually moving on to steel now?

None that I know of. A van with the Eversendai name does not mean that the steel will start next week, it just means that it is coming up soon (but we do not know how soon). I remember a while back (maybe 3 weeks ago or more) I read somewhere that the steel would start at floor 160. I do not know from where other people are getting their information. I will just wait to see when the steel starts, then I will know.

Just because someone posts a diagram of the Burj Dubai showing how high it will be, what levels will contain what, and how high the concrete will go, it does not mean that it is true. I will not believe anything I see, read or hear unless it is an official document/statement by Emaar, or by the CTBUH after completion.

Have any of you actually read the thread at all? apparantly there is a strike on. that would explain why not much is happening :hm:

nice shot Dubai_steve,

do you toke this pic's from The Palm Jumeirah island or from a boat?

Have any of you actually read the thread at all? apparantly there is a strike on. that would explain why not much is happening :hm:

Yeah, but the officials are saying that it's not affecting the Burj.

nice shot Dubai_steve,

do you toke this pic's from The Palm Jumeirah island or from a boat?

This was taken by AltTab from the top of the shoreline apartments on the Palm Jumeirah with a zoom lens at high resolution. I then cropped and colour corrected it in photoshop and posted it here for you all to enjoy. :)

Yeah, but the officials are saying that it's not affecting the Burj.

and its 100% truth :doh::doh:

I know this is slightly off topic but how much energy does dubai's desalination plants use, they must be pumping a seriously huge amount of salt water out of the sea.

08/November/2007

Burj Dubai

I have good news, still pumping the concrete:)

new security gate,new board , Depa (interior company) at the site and nice pics for today:)



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I know this is slightly off topic but how much energy does dubai's desalination plants use, they must be pumping a seriously huge amount of salt water out of the sea.

I have often wondered about the desalination usage as well, I guess its time to fire up Google.

Great pictures as always...:okay:

Nice to hear that they are still pumping concrete :)

Great shots Imre.

I see progress.

thx imre :). and indeed, they're pouring something on the top!

08/November/2007

Burj Dubai

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08/November/2007

Burj Dubai

pics from the Business Bay

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It looks so small:D

BTW What is the status of the Bussines Bay? I mean the canal. On the pics it looks almost finished, when are they going to fill it with water?

08/November/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1553/imresolt88jb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2006/imresolt91xu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


from the mirror


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Burj Dubai and The Oldtown

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Burj Dubai and the South Ridge

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Burj Dubai and the Burj Views

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last one:)


08/November/2007

Burj Dubai between the South Ridge

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the cladding is so sexy

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6678/imresolt16ye0.jpg

imre these are some of the best shots you've ever made!!! congratulations!! really impressive!!! awsome!:cheers:

the new board picture of the burj dubai looks horribly out of proprtion, i really hope they dont increase the height just for the sake of it.... id rather have a perfectly elegant building tbh.....

Damn, it's so slick and sexy :cheers:

What floor is it on right now?

still 156

is this a mech floor ? because it took quite a lot of time..and still is not complete

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/11/08/dubai-bridge.html

Dubai bridge collapse kills 7, injures 15
Last Updated: Thursday, November 8, 2007 | 12:16 PM ET
The Associated Press

excerpts:
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A bridge under construction in thr booming Gulf city of Dubai collapsed Thursday, killing seven workers and injuring 15, Dubai police said.
---
"We tried to put a huge piece of metal in a wall when it collapsed," said Muthu Raj, who said he was among 30 Indian workers on the bridge when it collapsed. "I saw colleagues trapped inside, but I managed to jump back and stepped on the road."
---

Sad news :ohno:

I love this building. It really defines what a skyscraper is.....good job Dubai!! I just wish the observation deck was at the highest occupable floor.....that would be amazing. As it stands, the OB wont be much higher than the skypod in the CN Tower.....right??

Hello all!!

Nice pics Imre, realy outstanding quality :D

but is this true that they are STILL pouring concrete???

Iff so, lets hope it to the 162st floor :D

Cheers :cheers1:

I love this building. It really defines what a skyscraper is.....good job Dubai!! I just wish the observation deck was at the highest occupable floor.....that would be amazing. As it stands, the OB wont be much higher than the skypod in the CN Tower.....right??

That's true, however, there are a couple under construction elsewhere that will be higher than the sky pod.

the new board picture of the burj dubai looks horribly out of proprtion, i really hope they dont increase the height just for the sake of it.... id rather have a perfectly elegant building tbh.....

I cant seem to find the particular picture your referring to. I have seen a couple with an old diagram showing with a 355m figure on it but not the new one.

is this a mech floor ? because it took quite a lot of time..and still is not complete

yes, it is a mechanical floor. maybe it will rise a few more floors after it or not. i personally think it is the last concrete-floor.

It's looking excellent, I still am in awe over this...

But isnt it strange? pouring contrete during the day time.. didnt they pour the concrete just at night because the temperatures?

^^ Check your calendar. I think you'll find that it is currently November.

As it stands, the OB wont be much higher than the skypod in the CN Tower.....right??

Your talking about the public OB deck.. There will also be smaller for pay OB decks higher up.

Your talking about the public OB deck.. There will also be smaller for pay OB decks higher up.

a higher OB deck has never been released or confirmed ^^

how many floors more to go after this 156 floors?

^^ 162, but in CULWULLA's diagram. there's about 204. 162 occupied, and the rest Mech floors

Oh great photos Imre!! In the first post of your photos, did you use a special camera?? I say this because the sky looks very blueand stranger. :cheers:

So, the Burj Dubai will have more floors and will be more taller or only the construction is stopped at the moment???

^^We are not sure yet Quijotillo.

Were yet to see any definitive evidence of a deviation from the latest 'public' plans of the BD stating L156 as the final height for the concrete structure. There could possibly be delays due to the strike; due to shipping of materials; due to an infestation of nomadic camels.

Most of us are hopping we will see concrete rise higher than L156 however I am sceptical about this. As I said before, just be patient. As soon as there is something new you can be sure it will be posted and analysed on here. :)

Oh great photos Imre!! In the first post of your photos, did you use a special camera?? I say this because the sky looks very blueand stranger. :cheers:

So, the Burj Dubai will have more floors and will be more taller or only the construction is stopped at the moment???


thanks,all pics with the same camera just from different angles and sun position thats why looks the sky on some pics stronger.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/11/08/dubai-bridge.html

Dubai bridge collapse kills 7, injures 15
Last Updated: Thursday, November 8, 2007 | 12:16 PM ET
The Associated Press

excerpts:
---
A bridge under construction in thr booming Gulf city of Dubai collapsed Thursday, killing seven workers and injuring 15, Dubai police said.
---
"We tried to put a huge piece of metal in a wall when it collapsed," said Muthu Raj, who said he was among 30 Indian workers on the bridge when it collapsed. "I saw colleagues trapped inside, but I managed to jump back and stepped on the road."
---


Mhh... is that the new bridge next to the Infinity Tower construction? I think there is a bridge currently built over the marina, because the existing one is too low.

@Imre:

Have you ever posted pictures of that bridge construction? I think i remember but i'm not sure. Maybe it was somewhere else.
If yes, do you remember in which thread? I just scrolled through some, but didnt find anything.. :ohno:

Thx

yes , next to the Infinity plot after the old bridge ,I posted here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=280376&page=72

and here

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=425571&page=88

it was my last post:

24/October/2007

next to the Grosvenor House

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It is interesting , we were fishing front of the Infinity site but after when the accident happened they closed that area and we moved to under the new and old bridge.( after we moved to the another side of the marina , front of the Dorra Bay plot , anyway another new bridge going to be there)

2 old pics (first one is close to the the Infinity , second one is the new bridge)

29/Jan/2007



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Ahh! Thx, that was a quick answer :)

So the whole thing suddently collapesed? Or just part?
They dont really have a lot of luck in this specific area... dont they, huh :ohno::ohno:

Kuwait has taken another a step closer to trumping Gulf Arab neighbour Dubai in the race to build the world's tallest building after authorities approved initial plans for a colossal new development that includes a tower expected to be over one kilometre high.

Kuwait's Municipal Council on Wednesday approved drawing sketches of the 250-square kilometre development, known as the Madinat Al-Hareer, which will be build opposite the capital city across Kuwait Bay.

The council also agreed to the construction of the Jaber Al-Ahmed Bridge that will link the two urban centres
The Madinat Al-Hareer, or City of Silk, is expected to take around 25 years to build and cost an estimated $86 billion. There is no indication yet as to when construction will begin.

The project includes construction of a 200-hectare natural desert reservation, a new airport, a large business centre, as well as areas that concentrate on the environment, sports, media, health, education, and industry.
At its centre will be the Burj Mubarak Al-Kabir, a tower soaring 1,001 metres into the air - almost twice the height of Taiwan's Taipei 101, which is 509 metres tall and officially still the world's tallest building.

The Burj Dubai overtook Taipei 101 earlier this year as the world's tallest building, but will not be officially recognised until construction is completed at the end of next year.

The final height of the Burj has yet to be revealed, but it is expected to between 700 and 900 metres. A local media report [B][last month claimed the final height will be 818 metres/B], citing architects drawings posted on the internet.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/503738-kuwait-burj-beater-plans-get-green-light?ln=en

I love this building. It really defines what a skyscraper is.....good job Dubai!! I just wish the observation deck was at the highest occupable floor.....that would be amazing. As it stands, the OB wont be much higher than the skypod in the CN Tower.....right??
the skypod in CN Tower is tiny (only 15m across) and 447m high.
the lev124 ob deck in Burj Dubai will be 442m high and boast an large outdoor viewing area. maybe tallest in world?
not only you can look down over 400m. also you will be able to look up 400m!! how many ob decks are like that?

lev124 floor plan (outdoor area at right) (32m wide x 15m deep) approx 500sqm
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7807/lev124floorqr5.jpg

thanks imre
just a quick question. are there any other people taking photos when you take them?
looks every bit 156 floors
ps- if anyone wants to know what height observation deck is, its the highest tier at right of the tower. -has an orange cover over it. looks bloody to me.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7472/imresolt72ca3.jpg

...A local media report last month claimed the final height will be 818 metres, citing architects drawings posted on the internet.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/503738-kuwait-burj-beater-plans-get-green-light?ln=en

hahaha Culwulla gets another mention of his 'leaked diagram'' :lol:

thanks imre
just a quick question. are there any other people taking photos when you take them?


yes, sometimes I see some people there.

Ahh! Thx, that was a quick answer :)

So the whole thing suddently collapesed? Or just part?
They dont really have a lot of luck in this specific area... dont they, huh :ohno::ohno:

I put some fresh pics here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=544685&page=3

Hello Skyscraper Fans! I've been watching this thread for about 6 months now and finally i've got the energy to actually post something. LOL:lol:
I have been absolutely taken aback at this massive concrete monster and I am really hoping for this tower to defy all plans we've seen and give us a huge surprise in the end. I'm hoping for the tower to be around the 900m mark - very intimidating figure and not quite out of proportion at the same time. BTW, whats taking the developers so long to progress with construction? I think the tower has remained the same high since the middle of October. i understand the strikes that have gone on and the delay in the shipment of steel, however isn't it starting to become a bit behind schedule? or maybe the steel section will sky rocket up in no time. i dunno, but lets hope they continue to keep pouring concrete. :banana:
Also a very very big thankyou to Imre, Old Town Resident et al, for taking amazing photographs of this beautiful building and surroundings and sharing it with the entire Skyscraper City Community. Well done guys and keep up the great work. :nocrook:

concrete

Ahh! Thx, that was a quick answer :)

So the whole thing suddently collapesed? Or just part?

It didn't suddenly collapsed, the support was knocked down by 1.5 Tons of rebars hanging from the crane.

Workers refuse to go back to work on Burj Dubai in continuing protest

Workers continue protest


http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5903/01aeconstructoldtown4zq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
An Emaar spokesperson said work is continuing on Burj Dubai despite the recent workers' protest.



Dubai: Several hundred workers continued to protest for the eight successive day on thursday, demanding an increase in salaries.

Labour ministry officials said the workers started their protest at their labour accommodation on November 1, demanding a raise, and have not gone back to work.

Efforts are being made for a settlement, but the workers have not changed their stand.

An Emaar spokesperson said: "Work is continuing on Burj Dubai for on-schedule completion at the end of 2008. As is evident to residents and visitors to Dubai, Burj Dubai has already reached 156 levels and calldding work is ogin on at an accelerated pace."
(Gulfnews)

Thanks for all the infromations Imre

good job, love the pic's

increase their salary.....cause they working area now at the highest man construction in the world....

yea. ^^ i second that

Its about time they stop exploting and start increasing the standard of living of construction workers, including those not working on the Burj Dubai. Only then would the construction of these monoliths would be completely justified.

Did anyone have the floor plans of burj dubai???
I´m a architect entusiast and im curious about the apartment floor plans, if burj dubai wil have duplex apartments and hotel rooms, or duplex offices, etc...

How it will be inside??? Anyone have any image of how it will be??? ( decoration, floor plants, etc... )

thanks!

ricardonho

here you have a link http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/facts.html hope i could help you!

Not only the Burj Dubai but the development in this complex is just amazing!

If you look at Imres pic from yesterday, one thing is missing.

The concrete placing boom is now removed from the top so no more concrete.

Burj reflections.

http://i11.tinypic.com/8fvm9u0.jpg

http://i16.tinypic.com/7xjz6uh.jpg

9th November
New bit of lake being added
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Cladding
http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/32553/2002276900609300656_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002276900609300656)
From last phase of old town Miska area (pool club).
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Looking to Palace Hotel from Burj Lake.
http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/32947/2002287054633609305_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002287054633609305)

so it is 100% sure now that concrete will not rise over 156 floors.

so it is 100% sure now that concrete will not rise over 156 floors.


ZZ, yep thats the end of that phase, but I guess with strikes and steel shipment delays we wont see much height activity for a while.

Theres a few construction compounds being put up today, but still steel is missing.

Are you sure it's removed? I only see this in Imre's first set of photos due to the angle that they were taken. The pump may have also been folded up and at a relatively low height so it couldn't have been seen above the formwork. If you look at all his three other sets taken on Nov. 8th, you can still easily see the pump though.

Either it's still there or it was just removed today (you can't see it in the Nov. 9th shot of BD with the other three lake photo thumbnails). Sorry for sounding contrary to the above posts but I'm sure we'll see soon enough whether it is infact gone for good and this signals the topping out of the concreting.

Are you sure it's removed? I only see this in Imre's first set of photos due to the angle that they were taken. The pump may have also been folded up and at a relatively low height so it couldn't have been seen above the formwork. If you look at all his three other sets taken on Nov. 8th, you can still easily see the pump though.

Either it's still there or it was just removed today (you can't see it in the Nov. 9th shot of BD with the other three lake photo thumbnails). Sorry for sounding contrary to the above posts but I'm sure we'll see soon enough whether it is infact gone for good and this signals the topping out of the concreting.

I have been around the Burj today and viewed from every angle. Its 100% gone. I can post some pics taken of the top?????

For whaterever reason also the finishing at the top concrete face looks a lot more square edged when viewed through the zoom looking 100% finished.

Are you sure it's removed? I only see this in Imre's first set of photos due to the angle that they were taken. The pump may have also been folded up and at a relatively low height so it couldn't have been seen above the formwork. If you look at all his three other sets taken on Nov. 8th, you can still easily see the pump though.

Either it's still there or it was just removed today (you can't see it in the Nov. 9th shot of BD with the other three lake photo thumbnails). Sorry for sounding contrary to the above posts but I'm sure we'll see soon enough whether it is infact gone for good and this signals the topping out of the concreting.


The concrete placement boom can normally be seen from a considerable distance and in particular from the angles taken in the photos below.

All pics taken today.

ITS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/33705/2001433248798826151_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001433248798826151)

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http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/33235/2001487023195600688_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001487023195600688)

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/31945/2001477257421231209_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001477257421231209)

http://aycu26.webshots.com/image/32625/2001463247677642874_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001463247677642874)

ITS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which means the formwork will soon follow. :banana:

Curious to see it without the formwork! Finally a clear view of how it's looking and how steel will follow, interesting! :)

How will steel hold with concrete?

the floors just under 156 are made out of steel and concrete

the floors just under 156 are made out of steel and concrete


Correct ZZ, but a wee but disapointment as I did think it would go further as part of the surprise package?

yeh, that would have been a nice surprise but we still have the chance to get surprises :). maybe a 2nd OB deck in 600m + or so :)

yeh, that would have been a nice surprise but we still have the chance to get surprises :). maybe a 2nd OB deck in 600m + or so :)


ZZ : true very true so much more to go.

I stumbled unto this slideshow from the Reuters website. Its actually cool with Burj Dubai and the two Palm islands. ;)

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?collectionId=1273

^^Înteresting

good good good....

:applause:

:applause: :cucumber:

Cladding to start soon above the 3rd mech floors. Rails below the 4th mech floors are visible on the last pic by Old Town Resident. Glass goes up fast above the 2nd mechanicals but slow below 1st mechanicals. Why? Maybe the are just planning to finish it together.

Having been ruthlessly corrected, I'm deleting my original post. :cry:

That hotel on the Palm islands looks somewhat like Atlantis:


:bash:It is the Atlantis hotel!!!!:bash:
Offtopic anyway:ohno: