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Lolii January 17th, 2009, 01:39 PM LOL. Just watch the close-ups and think again. :bash:
lol I did, it looks cheap, does not look classy or anything. The windows are hideous
Mithat January 17th, 2009, 01:47 PM Thanks for the update Imre, so I was right, that's a height increase by 7-8 metres I guess...
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 01:49 PM lol I did, it looks cheap, does not look classy or anything. The windows are hideous
And why do you think they are hideous, if I may ask?
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 01:50 PM Jep...It's definitely not 808 anymore...
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 01:59 PM We sure have a height increase, but it isn't toped out yet, is it?
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 02:01 PM I think that actully is T/O...
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 02:02 PM I think that actully is T/O...
No not yet.
Mithat January 17th, 2009, 02:04 PM I think there is a little part remaining, the cladded part behind the highest steel floor. I think that part should be above the highest steel level as it doesn't make sense having cladding inside the building.
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 02:09 PM Yes, when we compare Imres photos from yesterday and today, we have definitly a hight increase. 9 Windows above the steel, as it should be! :banana:
i'm not sure, but you can see the open door that leads to the tier 24 ;-)
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 02:10 PM No not yet.
Then we are really close...
SilentStrike January 17th, 2009, 02:11 PM just put those last few centimeters of spire on!!
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 02:16 PM look at the last of imres pics: a rectangular black hole. is this a open door? there have to be one. the door for tier 24 at the hight of 739m
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 02:22 PM If that black hole are door, then we're T/O...Right?
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1195/imresolt41hp6tm1.jpg
AvanGard January 17th, 2009, 02:23 PM So experts what are we looking at. 814,816 or 818.
I say TOP OUT
Burj Dubai T/O
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 02:27 PM So experts what are we looking at. 814,816 or 818.
I say TOP OUT
Burj Dubai T/O
it's definitly higher than 816 m. don't forget the perspective!
so i say T/O too :banana:
@DinoVabec: thx for the red arrow ;-)
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 02:29 PM I say not topped out yet.
Adam2707 January 17th, 2009, 02:33 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3477/3203746346_d3854a03e9_o.jpg
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 02:37 PM it's definitly higher than 816 m. don't forget the perspective!
so i say T/O too :banana:
@DinoVabec: thx for the red arrow ;-)
No problem...
I say T/O too...:)
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 02:37 PM There is still spire cladding inside the steel frame, its illogical to have this inside the building, we may have more height increase!
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 02:41 PM Let's see what experts say...
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 02:44 PM There is still spire cladding inside the steel frame, its illogical to have this inside the building, we may have more height increase!
Exactly. That's why I say that it isn't topped out yet. Still 4+ meters to go.
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 02:44 PM There is still spire cladding inside the steel frame, its illogical to have this inside the building, we may have more height increase!
then where the door leads to? or what do you think this black hole is? i think, you cannot open the windows
Cheezdoodles January 17th, 2009, 02:56 PM Hi all.
Nice shots Imre, OTR, and 234.
Hey guys here is a labelled shot from 234 showing the relation between the tier 23 steel larger wing and tier 23 pinnacle pipe / small wings.
http://a.imagehost.org/0492/Spire_jacking_4.jpg
Hey ZZ. We can see that 6 cladding "levels" on the small wings are the same height as 3 sections of the steel of the larger wings of tier 23 (and lower). The 3 - 6.4m. sections are the same height as the 6 - 3.2m. cladding "levels".
We can see in the shot the top half of tier 23 small wings are done. They will attach the bottom half now and then jack to top out.
Library. You may be correct in your interpretation of the CTBUH wording - not sure - but I will celebrate top out when the 818.0m. height is reached.
So Saturday may be top out. A good day for a party. :banana::banana::banana:
:cheers:
If Fury is right, which he usually is, then we're T/O!!
:banana::banana::banana:
:cheers:
sky6one January 17th, 2009, 02:57 PM No problem...
I say T/O too...:)
Wow..... T/O yes why not....:cheers:
:dance::dance::dance:
Cheezdoodles January 17th, 2009, 02:58 PM http://a.imagehost.org/0492/Spire_jacking_4.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6659/imresolt24hl7.jpg
Just thought I should show the comparison :)
:cheers:
The Engineer January 17th, 2009, 03:00 PM I think the opening in the facade is just temporary for the workers to get into the spire if nessecery it think. Time will tell....
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 03:03 PM Wow..... T/O yes why not....:cheers:
Don't cebrate yet...We still waiting the word of the experts...
cooperchris January 17th, 2009, 03:03 PM Wow..... T/O yes why not....:cheers:
:dance::dance::dance:
I don't think it's topped out yet, I think they moved it up about 2 floors height, but we need pics today from the same angle as above, then we will know for sure.
To all you guys thinking they can raise it higher than 818 - it's not possible, once that first bit of cladding went on the spire, that was it - height decided, unless they want to screw up the look of the building :nuts:
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 03:07 PM If EMAAR don't announce any top out, or even the final height, we will speculate for days without anything for sure...
AvanGard January 17th, 2009, 03:19 PM If EMAAR don't announce any top out, or even the final height, we will speculate for days without anything for sure...
Knowing Emaar they could say the Burj is now at 800m. So don't expect "real" official news from them for some time.
But as Fury pointed out a few pages back, and comparing that with what we see today, Top Out is a fact, and the Burj Dubai should be standing at 818m
TBoy January 17th, 2009, 03:24 PM Whats the radius of that spire?
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 03:28 PM I think, the last hight increase wasn't that big, because it was higher than 808m before, perhaps 810m. So they had to rise the spire not so much, but only 8 meters. But I'm sure that the open door now fits to the rest and this level is at the same hight than the highest steel beam.
Where exactly do you guys see cladding within the building? Do you mean it could raise even higher than 818m? perhaps 824m oder 830m?
christos-greece January 17th, 2009, 03:32 PM http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6659/imresolt24hl7.jpg
I cannot see if that "Black hole" is a door :dunno:
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 03:44 PM I cannot see if that "Black hole" is a door :dunno:
We don't know for sure either...Here's a big " if "...
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 03:45 PM I think, the last hight increase wasn't that big, because it was higher than 808m before, perhaps 810m. So they had to rise the spire not so much, but only 8 meters. But I'm sure that the open door now fits to the rest and this level is at the same hight than the highest steel beam.
Where exactly do you guys see cladding within the building? Do you mean it could raise even higher than 818m? perhaps 824m oder 830m?
No, it won't go higher then 818...
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 03:50 PM EMAAR, release us!
is the door at that place, where it should be? in my eyes - yes! :banana: :banana: :banana:
tier 24
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3149326404_79259b527e.jpg?v=0
ra7968 January 17th, 2009, 04:00 PM If they are sticking to "the plans", this thing should be topped out now. Well, nice knowing you folks. I'll be back when the next challenger building goes U/C.
818m is pretty good....remember when we were worried it would be only 705m or less?
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 04:11 PM EMAAR, release us!
is the door at that place, where it should be? in my eyes - yes! :banana: :banana: :banana:
tier 24
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3149326404_79259b527e.jpg?v=0
It looks like you're right (if they stick to the plans), but I wouldn't know why they should put a door in the cladding if it isn't connected to a tier.
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 04:15 PM It looks like you're right (if they stick to the plans), but I wouldn't know why they should put a door in the cladding if it isn't connected to a tier.
^^ perhaps it's the finance-crisis-suicide-door :lol:
stewartrama January 17th, 2009, 04:22 PM http://i42.tinypic.com/15yfa5j.jpg
it looks like a giant version of las vegas
firoz bharmal January 17th, 2009, 04:25 PM I think in mean time of the construction , they have started to rest of the work, like electrification,sanitation ,furniture ,Liftsand lots.....so if the tower is get full height they can open the tower for commercial use......can we have pics of the inside of the BD.
Whether they have put the DAMPER or not as it has mention in the culwulla diagram.I recently shown that spire is vibrating due to Lightning.....so It can be reduce if they have put DAMPER.....like in Taipe 101
helghast January 17th, 2009, 04:28 PM i think it's safe to say it's T/O, i looked over the pics very closely and there was defantly a height increase :cheers::cheers::cheers: oh BTW remember guy's this is just the core :lol:
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 04:29 PM As someone who's been lurking here for 18 months but finally signed up - I took this photo about an hour ago, I'm sure the experts here will know if it means we're topped out for sure....
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6063/bd2eo9.jpg
...if so then I guess it's :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: tonight!!
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 04:34 PM As someone who's been lurking here for 18 months but finally signed up - I took this photo about an hour ago, I'm sure the experts here will know if it means we're topped out for sure....
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6063/bd2eo9.jpg
...if so then I guess it's :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: tonight!!
You can post the whole picture (not just thumbnail without the link):
EDIT: it seems you fixed it already.
It looks indeed a hatch to the upper tier. :)
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 04:37 PM Thanks Dequal, I managed to work it out eventually! I know it's not quite up to Imre and OTR's standards but I only had the compact digicam with me today! I might post a few more later...
Steve
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 04:56 PM EMAAR, release us!
is the door at that place, where it should be? in my eyes - yes! :banana: :banana: :banana:
The door are drawed here...
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1429/314932640479259b527elr3.jpg
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 05:00 PM This one might be a slightly better angle - the first was from Al Wasl area, this is from near the Index building, 17:00 tonight...
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9817/bd3yf4.jpg
:cheers::cheers: if it's 818m now....
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 05:04 PM if it's 818m now....
Thanks for the pics Steve...
I think we can now be sure that is 818m and T/O...
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 05:08 PM This one might be a slightly better angle - the first was from Al Wasl area, this is from near the Index building, 17:00 tonight...
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9817/bd3yf4.jpg
:cheers::cheers: if it's 818m now....
VERY GOOD angle, thx Steve!
I think, this picture is the final masterpiece to the burj dubai puzzle, that tell's us:
Burj Dubai has topped out! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
dm-civil January 17th, 2009, 05:08 PM Sh*t, I called a very urgent meeting with representatives of both Emaar and the engineering firm who design the fountain. I showed them your post and their responded in shock. Emaar decided to stop any further payment and sue the firm for compensation if the issue isn't resolved and the firm comes forward with a redesign or provisions before the end of February. Till then the project is on hold.
The design firm apologized in shame and left the meeting head-down, fearing which had will go first.
I tell you guys ... tough times, really tough times ... and the worse is yet to come. :ohno:
is impossible the fact that they hadn't thought about this before, i work in a pool-spa-fountain company and everybody knows the anemometers (wind sensor) is a must-have in outdoor fountains. in fountains like bellagio's the water show is stopped if moderate winds begins.
Swiddle January 17th, 2009, 05:15 PM Looks T/O to me. :cheers2:
Does anyone know, or want to guess, how fast the spire would rise during jackings? Was it extremely slow, like 1cm per minute, or relatively fast, say 1m per minute, or something in between?
I don't think we've seen any video of it rising, which I find strange. Guess the stages could have happened fast when no one was looking, or so slowly that it wouldn't be noticeable without time-lapse photography. ...Or in short, but quick bursts -- go up a few cm, wait several minutes, then a few more cm, etc.
Þróndeimr January 17th, 2009, 05:18 PM Awesome, but seems like they can jack it up a bit more, one or two windows! ;)
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 05:20 PM Looks T/O to me. :cheers2:
Does anyone know, or want to guess, how fast the spire would rise during jackings? Was it extremely slow, like 1cm per minute, or relatively fast, say 1m per minute, or something in between?
I don't think we've seen any video of it rising, which I find strange. Guess the stages could have happened fast when no one was looking, or so slowly that it wouldn't be noticeable without time-lapse photography. ...Or in short, but quick bursts -- go up a few cm, wait several minutes, then a few more cm, etc.
I don't know, but I hope that we'll see that in some documentary about Burj Dubai...
Swiddle January 17th, 2009, 05:21 PM Awesome, but seems like they can jack it up a bit more, one or two windows! ;)
Don't forget the "half-wings" that were installed. They won't rise above the steel structure.
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 05:22 PM I don't know, but I hope that we'll see that in some documentary about Burj Dubai...
Of course it will. National Geographic Channel and Discovery Channel have had already soms documentaries about the Burj Dubai and all the other supertalls in the world (Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, ...)
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 05:28 PM It looks definitely topped out now, especially because of the access door, but i am wondering why they did not attach the last three wing/transition parts of tier 23?
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 05:28 PM Of course it will. National Geographic Channel and Discovery Channel have had already soms documentaries about the Burj Dubai and all the other supertalls in the world (Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, ...)
I know...I was watching doc. about Petronas and Taipei...:)
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 05:28 PM I wasn't too sure earlier, but on closer look I think the position of the door
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8333/bd4mf1.jpg
gives it away - this tier will not go any higher, therefore we must be topped out :banana::cheers::banana::cheers:
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 05:30 PM next things to do (to close the "gap"):
-add the 2 levels of the missing steel wing of tier 22
-add the lower part of the small wing of tier 23
-some connections between spire and the steel structure
==>dismantle the crane
btw, someone should rename this thread U/C-->T/O ;-)
Old Town Resident January 17th, 2009, 05:32 PM Using the spire door as a reference from the position it was in this morning, I would say the height increase was in the region of 4 to 5m
Pic as it is now.
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2432.jpg
giovani kun January 17th, 2009, 05:32 PM please change this one to T/O
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 05:32 PM gives it away - this tier will not go any higher, therefore we must be topped out :banana::cheers::banana::cheers:
That's what I'm sayin'...
We are T/O people...:nuts:
Bikes January 17th, 2009, 05:34 PM It should be around 813 m then. No need for title change until it's 100%.
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 05:35 PM http://msp84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/purplepiglet/party.gifhttp://www-lehre.inf.uos.de/~tbittlin/party.gifhttp://msp84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/purplepiglet/party.gif
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 05:39 PM Using the spire door as a referencefrom the position it was in this morning, I would say the height increase was in the region of 4 to 5mThe height increase was obviously not that much, because they always needed more than the height of a single element on the bottom to be able to attach the wings. So there was always some space for moving of the parts. But that space is not needed anymore, they jacked just the few metres which were left, deducting the space they already had at the bottom of tier 22.
antovador January 17th, 2009, 05:40 PM It looks definitely topped out now, especially because of the access door, but i am wondering why they did not attach the last three wing/transition parts of tier 23?
Perhaps is to not obstruct the rest of tier 22 structure still to be rise and put the last wing/transition parts of tier 23 after tier 22 completion
Old Town Resident January 17th, 2009, 05:40 PM http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2426zoom.jpg
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 05:42 PM It should be around 813 m then. No need for title change until it's 100%.
^^ a further hight increase is IMPOSSIBLE
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9817/bd3yf4.jpg
the people would fall out of the door ^^
@Hightech Pro: I totally agree.
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 05:45 PM ^^ an further hight increase is IMPOSSIBLE
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9817/bd3yf4.jpg
the people would fall out of the door ^^
unless there will be an extra stair added :dizzy:
Swiddle January 17th, 2009, 05:47 PM After/Before comparison...
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2432.jpghttp://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2707/imresolt09se7.jpg
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 05:47 PM I don't know...
According to those those two pictures, and the door, I think It's T/O...
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1429/314932640479259b527elr3.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6063/bd2eo9.jpg
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 05:50 PM OTR, are you saying that there's this much...
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6332/img2426zoomkg2.jpg
still to go?
Steve
(with apologies for the red ink on your photo)
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 05:50 PM ^^ a further hight increase is IMPOSSIBLEyes, anybody who thinks otherwise should rather redo all of our previous calculations and measurements, because there is some bigger room for mistakes than in the current photos and plans. Especially the first big jacking without anything attached to the spire might have been calculated wrong.
@Steve DXB
There is no cladding on the side of the two wings directed to the steel structure, as seen in earlier photos, these are only transition parts and no complete wings, they will NOT jack it!
antovador January 17th, 2009, 05:55 PM It should be around 813 m then. No need for title change until it's 100%.
comparing the two pics for me it`s top out now
Hi all.
http://a.imagehost.org/0492/Spire_jacking_4.jpg
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2432.jpg
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 05:55 PM @hightech pro: I see, you speak my language. :cheers:
Swiddle January 17th, 2009, 05:57 PM OTR, are you saying that there's this much...
[snip image]
still to go?
Steve
(with apologies for the red ink on your photo)
Can't be, unless a change of plans. This would have the two missing halves of the half wings above the steel structure, and I don't think the crane can reach there to add the missing halves. If there is any rising left, it's probably only a meter or less.
antovador January 17th, 2009, 06:00 PM http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2426zoom.jpg
Are you sure for me it´s the tier 23 upper wing/transition part
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 06:01 PM ^^^^
If Fury's original comment above is correct (and he has been at every stage so far!) then we're definitely done - time to celebrate!!!
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 06:02 PM Here is a photo before the last jacking, the red circle shows the difference of the transition part and the wings above them. As you can see, the left side in the red circle is left open without any cladding.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/339/imresolt09se7xxpf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/imresolt09se7xxpf3.jpg/1/w691.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img413/imresolt09se7xxpf3.jpg/1/)
skyperu34 January 17th, 2009, 06:03 PM Im totally confused now ! T/O or not???? Cul? Imre? Status confirmation?
cooperchris January 17th, 2009, 06:04 PM http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2426zoom.jpg
OTR, you might be getting confused, good picture, it proves that it has now topped out. :banana: Don't know how many of you realise this, but the silver/white line on each piece of cladding is always directly level with a floor plate, concrete and steel. Your pic OTR shows that white part of cladding is exactly level with the very top of the steel, so TOPPED OUT PEOPLE! :cheers:
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 06:12 PM Here is a photo before the last jacking, the red circle shows the difference of the transition part and the wings above them. As you can see, the left side in the red circle is left open without any cladding.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/339/imresolt09se7xxpf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/imresolt09se7xxpf3.jpg/1/w691.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img413/imresolt09se7xxpf3.jpg/1/)
You are right and all the other pics are showing the same: Burj Dubai is topped out.
Þróndeimr January 17th, 2009, 06:13 PM Are we sure there is no cladding on the lower part?
its hard to see if you ask me though i am not the expert. bigger pics will prove it right or wrong.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Other/BurjDubai09aaa.jpg
Swiddle January 17th, 2009, 06:14 PM Don't know how many of you realise this, but the silver/white line on each piece of cladding is always directly level with a floor plate, concrete and steel. Your pic OTR shows that white part of cladding is exactly level with the very top of the steel, so TOPPED OUT PEOPLE! :cheers:
That's definitely true of the concrete levels and the lower steel levels. I see no reason to believe it's not also true for the non-functional upper steel levels, so I think we have T/O for sure. :cheers1:
Well, I guess until the spire is bolted and welded in place, it could fluctuate a few cm or mm up or down while still supported by the jacking system. ;)
.
BlackSmith! January 17th, 2009, 06:19 PM 9 floors above last steel level, so T/O. What a show was that:carrot::cheers:
SilentStrike January 17th, 2009, 06:29 PM TOPPED OUT:banana::carrot::pepper::cucumber::banana2:!!!
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 06:31 PM Unless we have an official announcement, we can argue pointless indefinitely. Especially with the height, none on this forum can confirm it.
This is EMAAR's fault. Its not like anything will surpass Burj in the near future to keep it secret. I'll wait for an official announcement never the less
Doomlord_uk January 17th, 2009, 06:32 PM ^^^I'm with OTR. The cladding for Level 23 will be different to the cladding bolted on to the spire column that we see now, it will need to be wider.
Also, I'm fairly sure there will be some official notification when T/O finally occurs. Well... I really hope so!!!
[Edit] - doh, missed reading the last page... If Fury's diagram is correct, then it must be topped out! OMG!!! Finally, after all this time...
COME ON EMAAR YOU BASTARDS TELL US WHATS HAPPENING!!!!! :bash:
Old Town Resident January 17th, 2009, 06:32 PM The red square I have drawn is where the hatch was yesterday, where from this point to where the hatch is now equates to 10m then the BD is topped out.
I think only about 4m height increase therfore 812m at moment.
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2435zoomxxx.jpg
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 06:36 PM There is still spire cladding inside the steel frame, its illogical to have this inside the building, we may have more height increase
Just what I earlier said.
Doomlord_uk January 17th, 2009, 06:37 PM Yeah, ok, still with OTR on this one :) A few metres to go.
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 06:41 PM This can be an endless discussion. Just wait for Fury, the expert. :)
Bikes January 17th, 2009, 06:42 PM http://www.metalbulletin.com/Article/2084205/Iron/Nakheel-postpones-work-on-Burj-Dubai-skyscraper.html :D
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 06:42 PM @OTR
It is topped out, whether the previous calculation or the final hight was wrong, but it is definitely topped out for me. Everything is according to plan. We only have to redo the math. There is no real proven evidence for any further jacking, but lots of evidence for it to be topped out.
@ReiAyanami
There is no cladding inside, look at my previous pic, the wings directed to steel are transition parts with no cladding directed to the steel.
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 06:43 PM Assuming the door is man-sized (6ft, 1.8m?) then it's gone up 8-10m rather than 4m...
- For perspective, we know that the distance between white horizontal beams on the crane is 2m, and the top two seem to cover around half the distance jacked.
Come on Fury, wake up!!
SilentStrike January 17th, 2009, 06:44 PM This can be an endless discussion. Just wait for Fury, the expert. :)
I think fury already said its topped aout a few pages back.
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 06:48 PM Apart from cul's diagrams, do we actually have any other design plan to confirm it?
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 06:50 PM I think fury already said its topped aout a few pages back.
No he didn't?
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 06:53 PM He was probably referring to the quote of fury's diagramm two pages back, but i havent seen a recent post from him, too.
cooperchris January 17th, 2009, 06:53 PM http://www.metalbulletin.com/Article/2084205/Iron/Nakheel-postpones-work-on-Burj-Dubai-skyscraper.html :D
They don't have a clue! :lol:
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 06:55 PM They don't have a clue! :lol:
I think they are referring to the Nakheel Harbour Tower. Once again the example of journalists not doing their job well.
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 06:55 PM This can be an endless discussion. Just wait for Fury, the expert. :)
Exactly...
Enyone wanna bet what he'll say?:D
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 06:58 PM good to see that we have such more signs for topout :-)
and don't forget the door hight on tier 24, what i mentioned some pages ago: also a good sign
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 06:58 PM Exactly...
Enyone wanna bet what he'll say?:D
2 euro's on topped out. :lol:
SilentStrike January 17th, 2009, 06:59 PM If we wait for official news this can go on for days...
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 06:59 PM If we wait for official news this can go on for days...
If Fury says it's topped out, it will be topped out. He's the expert and now what's going on.
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 06:59 PM 2 euro's on topped out. :lol:+1 :lol:
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 07:01 PM From these two images (the first one of which was annotated by Fury a couple of days ago, the second I took this afternoon), if Fury was correct then we must be topped out, the two halves of tier 23 are now in alignment :banana2::banana2::banana2:
If Fury is right, which he usually is, then we're T/O!!
http://a.imagehost.org/0492/Spire_jacking_4.jpg
:banana::banana::banana:
:cheers:
This one might be a slightly better angle - the first was from Al Wasl area, this is from near the Index building, 17:00 tonight...
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9817/bd3yf4.jpg
:cheers::cheers: if it's 818m now....
antovador January 17th, 2009, 07:05 PM I think fury already said its topped aout a few pages back.
No he didn't?
He was probably referring to the quote of fury's diagramm two pages back, but i havent seen a recent post from him, too.
to avoid misunderstanding, I was quoting fury's pic to explain BD is top out imo
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 07:06 PM 2 euro's on topped out. :lol:
LOL...I'll put 10 euros...:lol:
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 07:07 PM I'll put 100 Dirhams on it!
antovador January 17th, 2009, 07:12 PM The red square I have drawn is where the hatch was yesterday, where from this point to where the hatch is now equates to 10m then the BD is topped out.
I think only about 4m height increase therfore 812m at moment.
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2435zoomxxx.jpg
thank you OTR and and in the pic we can see the evidence of transition part of tier 23, we can see the difference with the complete wing
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 07:18 PM If there would be any doubts. On the picture you can clearly see that the cladding stops, so there isn't any cladding hidden anymore behind the steel floors.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/716/dubaixw6.jpg
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 07:20 PM Exactly my man...We are full of evidences that Burj Dubai is T/O...:cheers:
The Terminator January 17th, 2009, 07:26 PM Lol, the information BurjDubaiSkyscraper provides is very vast, ranging from 800-850 m, and 160-189 floors. Or maybe they planned all this and force us into this discussion?
So it MIGHT still go up for a while, but it won't be for long (one weeks I say), at least we can expect burj dubai will T/O within this month.
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 07:30 PM Lol, the information BDS provides is very vast, ranging from 800-850 m, and 160-189 floors.
So it MIGHT still go up for a while, but it won't be for long, at least we can expect burj dubai will T/O within one or two months.
BDS taking informations from this forum...And today or tomorrow you'll find there information that BD is T/O...:cheers:
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 07:42 PM Even if you are right and it is toped out, its worthless info unless there is official announcement. I mean that if I cannot prove to a 3rd person that it reached the final height, what I can do it? And if there is none such, we still need to wait for days to be 100% sure there is no change on top. I hope tomorrow EMAAR will announce something.
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 07:44 PM Even if you are right and it is toped out, its worthless info unless there is official announcement. I mean that if I cannot prove to a 3rd person that it reached the final height, what I can do it? And if there is none such, we still need to wait for days to be 100% sure there is no change on top. I hope tomorrow EMAAR will announce something.
lol, you are dreaming...EMAAR will announce nothing for months...perhaps until opening day
btw, skyscraperpage.com changed name of thread from U/C to T/O
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 07:48 PM lol, you are dreaming...EMAAR will announce nothing for months...perhaps until opening day
Exactly...They are very "hardfisted" when are informations in matter...
Bikes January 17th, 2009, 07:52 PM I think it will take 4-5 days for Emaar to announce top out.
ReiAyanami January 17th, 2009, 07:52 PM lol, you are dreaming...EMAAR will announce nothing for months...perhaps until opening day
^^If this is the case, I won't admit top out until its fully cladded up to the spire and all the cranes are down to earth. Its fair and square.
the sock January 17th, 2009, 08:05 PM i just thought today was the day when it topped out , so if they have jacked it a little why not the whole lot to the final height ? ,great pics as always.
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 08:07 PM i just thought today was the day when it topped out , so if they have jacked it a little why not the whole lot to the final height ? ,great pics as always.They HAVE jacked it to final height.
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 08:16 PM yep, top out moment is history
buildmilehightower January 17th, 2009, 08:22 PM Fury hasn't spoke yet, until then I'm holding it in... And of course, the ultimate EMAAR.
SilentStrike January 17th, 2009, 08:25 PM T/O!
hektiano January 17th, 2009, 08:35 PM Don't see any reasons why it shouldn't be topped out?!
Great pics btw!
Thanks OTR, Imre etc!
Soroban January 17th, 2009, 08:36 PM lol, you are dreaming...EMAAR will announce nothing for months...perhaps until opening day
btw, skyscraperpage.com changed name of thread from U/C to T/O
It stayed months to change from 808 to 818.
And hours to change from U/C to T/O.
:ohno:
gerald.d January 17th, 2009, 08:39 PM Here's an amazing fact, that I really do think puts the significance of today's top-out into perspective:
The Burj Dubai is only the 16th structure in recorded human history to hold the title of tallest freestanding structure on land.
Around four and a half thousand years ago, the record was held by the Great Pyramid in Giza - and it held the record for around 3900 years.
Today really is a momentous event.
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 08:41 PM Here's an amazing fact, that I really do think puts the significance of today's top-out into perspective:
The Burj Dubai is only the 16th structure in recorded human history to hold the title of tallest freestanding structure on land.
Around four and a half thousand years ago, the record was held by the Great Pyramid in Giza - and it held the record for around 3900 years.
Today really is a momentous event.
IF there's a top-out :lol:
jhalsey January 17th, 2009, 08:43 PM I think it's nowhere near topped out yet - this baby is going well beyond 818 metres!
buildmilehightower January 17th, 2009, 08:44 PM I'm not quite sure how lot of you are 100% sure it's T/O, I'm not denying it or confirming it. It will be 100% until Emaar announces it, after all they and their contractors are the ones deciding and even changing things...
But this is the final jacking according to the schedule isn't it?
christos-greece January 17th, 2009, 08:44 PM http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2435zoomxxx.jpg
Awesome night pic :) incredible zoom
LOL...I'll put 10 euros...:lol:
Let's put 20 euros :lol::lol:
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 08:48 PM Let's put 20 euros :lol::lol:
Why not...:okay:
ZZ-II January 17th, 2009, 09:01 PM OTR is right, the tower is not topped out yet. we've 10 cladding sections above the steel now.....we need 13!
see yourself:
http://i43.tinypic.com/nlya3b.jpg
edit: to compare with the plan also look at the update from imre below...you'll see i'm right :)
buildmilehightower January 17th, 2009, 09:02 PM ^^ I knew something was missing...
Imre January 17th, 2009, 09:03 PM We had a great celebration tonight with AltinD and 234Sale, Thanks:)
17/January/2009
Burj Dubai (today PART 2 )
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gramercy January 17th, 2009, 09:11 PM are they gonna have any useful function for the spire?
for example private restaurant on every one of those "cladding sections" :o
Dequal January 17th, 2009, 09:15 PM are they gonna have any useful function for the spire?
for example private restaurant on every one of those "cladding sections" :o
The elevator doesn't go that far in the top. :) Unless they carry the food by the ladders... :nuts:
Old Town Resident January 17th, 2009, 09:16 PM Thanks ZZ, it was really simple to see if each tier at that level is circa 3m then it only went up around 4m from yesterday.808 + 4 + 812m
In my opinion the cladding will be added and attached using the lugs as was the case for the cladding already attached and will terminate around the line I have drawn.
And the holes in the spire are manways, not 2m doors.
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/IMG_2439claddingdetail.jpg
SilentStrike January 17th, 2009, 09:17 PM ok so im guessing tomorrow will be the big day?
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 09:17 PM Great pics Imre - as always :)
So if you guys were celebrating you must think it's topped too?
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 09:19 PM OTR is right, the tower is not topped out yet. we've 10 cladding sections above the steel now.....we need 13!
see yourself:
http://i43.tinypic.com/nlya3b.jpg
edit: to compare with the plan also look at the update from imre below...you'll see i'm right :)Is it possible that you mix something up with the railings on the top of each tier? Because i count 9 floors + 1 railing. And i see other parts in your diagramm which are splitted, i would recommend to count it as one, and not as two... And your diagramm also shows 4 floors for each tier, which is wrong, on every photo you can see, that there are 3 floors in tier 24, 25 and 26. I am really sorry to say this, but thats really not a good diagramm. I definitely stick with my dicision, that it is topped out!
christos-greece January 17th, 2009, 09:19 PM Amazing update Imre ^^
Imre January 17th, 2009, 09:25 PM Great pics Imre - as always :)
So if you guys were celebrating you must think it's topped too?
just few beers but we had nice view:)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9061/imresolt21qx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1195/imresolt54dv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 09:30 PM I'll stay with T/O...And those 2 pics as a proof...:)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1429/314932640479259b527elr3.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6063/bd2eo9.jpg
Imre January 17th, 2009, 09:31 PM Great pics Imre - as always :)
So if you guys were celebrating you must think it's topped too?
yes , we thought but still dont know its T/O or not.
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 09:31 PM can it be, that ZZ-II uses an old plan with the 808m-version? :lol:
i still believe in T/O
but let's wait, what Fury has to say
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 09:32 PM Hey Imre, from where is that last photo taken?
cooperchris January 17th, 2009, 09:33 PM Burj Dubai is TOPPED OUT people for sure! There are NINE (9) cladding sections above the top of the highest steel section we see now. The plans show NINE (9) cladding sections above the steel as it stands. We don't need any announcement from Emaar, their height announcements have been pathetically late!
Remember each piece of cladding on the spire is 3.2m!! Imre's pics from yesterday and today show that it CLEARLY has risen much more than 4m! The spire rose by almost 3 cladding sections in height.
Can we change thread title to T/O moderators please?
Imre January 17th, 2009, 09:34 PM Hey Imre, from where is that last photo taken?
Address Hotel , 63rd floor
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 09:35 PM Burj Dubai is TOPPED OUT people for sure! There are NINE (9) cladding sections above the top of the highest steel section we see now. The plans show NINE (9) cladding sections above the steel as it stands. We don't need any announcement from Emaar, their height announcements have been pathetically late!
Remember each piece of cladding on the spire is 3.2m!! Imre's pics from yesterday and today show that it CLEARLY has risen much more than 4m! The spire rose by almost 3 cladding sections in height.
Can we change thread title to T/O moderators please?
Amen...
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 09:36 PM just few beers but we had nice view:)
LOL, very nice view
Top floor bar (Neos) at The Address??
Edit: you just answered, no-where else it could be with that view...
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6475/imresolt66sz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 09:36 PM perhaps some guys here are payed by EMAAR to create some confusion :lol:
Þróndeimr January 17th, 2009, 09:39 PM Can we change thread title to T/O moderators please?
Lets wait, can't comfirm it yet. Seems like people in here want it to be topped out right now, scared of heights? ;)
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 09:44 PM Lets wait, can't comfirm it yet. Seems like people in here want it to be topped out right now, scared of heights? ;)I am just referring to furys explanations and plans. And also my own observation of course. But i respect the ones, who want to wait until it is official. We will see whoever is right within the next few days i think.
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 09:44 PM Lets wait, can't comfirm it yet. Seems like people in here want it to be topped out right now, scared of heights? ;)
Nope...People who don't want it to be topped out now are maybe scared of heights...:lol:
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 09:45 PM I am just referring to furys explanations and plans. And also my own observation of course. But i respect the ones, who want to wait until it is official. We will see whoever is right within the next few days i think.
Same here...:)
King of Construction January 17th, 2009, 09:47 PM I think Fury doesn't know either, and that's why he isn't saying anything.
Personally I think it's 812 meters and not 818 yet. But I'm not sure.
harsh1802 January 17th, 2009, 09:48 PM This is just an amazing tower. I caught a glimpse of it at the airport last November.
gramercy January 17th, 2009, 09:52 PM The elevator doesn't go that far in the top. :) Unless they carry the food by the ladders... :nuts:
there are plenty of restaurants like that :nuts:
and i bet if every one of those 'booths' were for just one couple...lots of ppl would pay for an evening there :nuts:
Hightech Pro January 17th, 2009, 09:53 PM Thanks ZZ, it was really simple to see if
In my opinion the cladding will be added and attached using the lugs as was the case for the cladding already attached and will terminate around the line I have drawn.Thats right, these lugs are for adding another 3 cladding parts, two of them will be transition parts to the steel again, like the ones above. But there should be no further jacking.
Old Town Resident January 17th, 2009, 09:55 PM perhaps some guys here are payed by EMAAR to create some confusion :lol:
Yip, when did you start?:lol:
Doomlord_uk January 17th, 2009, 10:10 PM I don't believe this is finished until all the cladding attached to the spire is above the steelwork. More to go, folks :)
Stay tuned ;)
ZZ-II January 17th, 2009, 10:17 PM can it be, that ZZ-II uses an old plan with the 808m-version? :lol:
i still believe in T/O
but let's wait, what Fury has to say
yes, i used the 808m plan. but you should know that the only difference between the 808m version and the 818m one is the height of the spire. there's absolutely no difference in the steel section or at the cladding on the spire...just the part above the last cladding ;)
Is it possible that you mix something up with the railings on the top of each tier? Because i count 9 floors + 1 railing. And i see other parts in your diagramm which are splitted, i would recommend to count it as one, and not as two... And your diagramm also shows 4 floors for each tier, which is wrong, on every photo you can see, that there are 3 floors in tier 24, 25 and 26. I am really sorry to say this, but thats really not a good diagramm. I definitely stick with my dicision, that it is topped out!
i counted the rails also in the updates from imre ;)
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 10:19 PM Yip, when did you start?:lol:
OK, if you want :lol:
Burj Dubai current height: 818m don't keep asking on thread.
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 10:21 PM Hi all.
Nice shots Imre, OTR, and 234.
Hey guys here is a labelled shot from 234 showing the relation between the tier 23 steel larger wing and tier 23 pinnacle pipe / small wings.
http://a.imagehost.org/0492/Spire_jacking_4.jpg
Hey ZZ. We can see that 6 cladding "levels" on the small wings are the same height as 3 sections of the steel of the larger wings of tier 23 (and lower). The 3 - 6.4m. sections are the same height as the 6 - 3.2m. cladding "levels".
We can see in the shot the top half of tier 23 small wings are done. They will attach the bottom half now and then jack to top out.
Library. You may be correct in your interpretation of the CTBUH wording - not sure - but I will celebrate top out when the 818.0m. height is reached.
So Saturday may be top out. A good day for a party. :banana::banana::banana:
:cheers:
This was what made us sure it was topped out today, the tops of both sides of 'tier 23' marked here are now level. Today's jacking was of 3x 3.2m cladding 'levels'.
Also, from Culwulla's last diagram (11th Jan, about 100 pages back somewhere!)
Edit: it's here http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3188865645_0801529ebd_o.jpg (1.2Mb) or page 711 of this thread
tiers 24, 25 and 26 are 10m, 10m and 9m respectively, whereas tier 23 is 19m. Today's jacking was the same as the height of tier 24, but half the height of tier 23 ie 9.5m - so we're at 818 now surely?
Fury, Culwulla, where are you?:hi:
TBoy January 17th, 2009, 10:40 PM Please, whats the radius of that spire???
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 10:43 PM ^^ that depends on the hight
AvanGard January 17th, 2009, 10:43 PM Let it be over.
The basic math from what is shown above.
808m (previous height) +3 (section lifted (3below and 9above tier23 (total 12))) *3.2m (length of each section)= 808m+9.6m= 817.6 or ~818m
Let’s celebrate people it is a TOP OUT.818
p.s. I guess the 0.4m offset could be compensated if they install the handrail on top of the pinnacle.
cooperchris January 17th, 2009, 10:49 PM Please, whats the radius of that spire???
2.1m then 1.5m then 1.35m then 1.2m. :cheers:
Edit: those are diametres btw
guzm@n January 17th, 2009, 10:53 PM omg.. this confusion is driving me crazy:nuts:
Anyway, it was awesome to follow the growth of this structure. Thanks to all who cooperate making this thread was it is:bowtie:
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 10:53 PM Let it be over.
The basic math from what is shown above.
808m (previous height) +3 (section lifted (3below and 9above tier23 (total 12))) *3.2m (length of each section)= 808m+9.6m= 817.6 or ~818m
Let’s celebrate people it is a TOP OUT.818
p.s. I guess the 0.4m offset could be compensated if they install the handrail on top of the pinnacle.
Avanguard, thanks for proving to me that my maths ain't that bad...
C'mon guys, we're finally there!! :grouphug::cheers1::cheers::carrot::banana2:
:dance:
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 10:56 PM C'mon guys:grouphug::cheers1::cheers::carrot::banana2:
:dance:
:cheers1::cheer::cheer::carrot::dj::cheers2::cucumber:
Jarott January 17th, 2009, 11:02 PM first of all: lots of you guys suddenly became extremly knowlagable, making decissions and stuff. funny
and as forr the jack: in my opinion it hasn't topped out, just like otr said, and as for proof:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6812/enoughag1.jpg
the green lines show you the floors. as you see the manhole moved only a bit more than one floor up. it may be the highest structure on earth, but i don't belive it has 10m floors.
and as for the cladding. if you compare the yellow line to the green one, you can see, that there are two cladding pieces, for one floor. and this again is a proof for going up about 4m, leaving the building at ~812m.
btw the emaar guys must be quite entertaining people, even getting the idea of visually increasing the tower height by making the top cladding smaller demands some specific way of thinking. i'm sure having a dinner with them must be soooooooo interesting.
JC_Zwolle January 17th, 2009, 11:10 PM I won't celebrate untill there comes an official verification from Emaar. And I don't care if that means I'd miss the party.
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 11:13 PM Jarott,
From Culwulla's diagram, those floors are 6m each, so it only had to move up a floor and a half...
It has moved up the height of three of the cladding panels on the right hand side of your picture, which Fury said were 3.2m each ^^
Old Town Resident January 17th, 2009, 11:22 PM Im sure Culwulla wont mind me using one of his older drawings to highlight the 6m levels referred (including mezzanine floors):lol:
So OK topped out before the kiddies head for bed.
Change title to 812m:nuts:
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/Burjspiredrawing.jpg
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 11:28 PM Here's the Culwula's diagram...
I was copy the upper part where the spire should be where is T/O and paste it lower where the cladding is...As you can see if they lift the spire up for that height, there will be 9 cladding sections (nine red spots) above the rest of the steel...And then will Burj Dubai be T/O...
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2391/31888656450801529ebdozy3.jpg
On the todays Imre's update picture, we can see that nine cladding sections (nine spots) are above the rest of the steel...
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1281/imresolt16ho8td3.jpg
So Burj Dubai is topped out...
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 11:30 PM Change title to 812m:nuts:
LOL...:lol:
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 11:33 PM LOL...:lol:
:rofl: definitely 818!
stefan040780 January 17th, 2009, 11:36 PM rename title to "deconstruction because of mathematic error"...:nuts:
Jarott January 17th, 2009, 11:39 PM hey guys, you showed it yourself: the top floors are 3m. so if the manhole moved ~one floor up, what was prooved, then we have a 4m rise MAX. what's so complicated about it?
btw dinovabec: you missed 3 dots on the diagram :>
otr: this amount of sarcasm may couse some overheat ;P
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 11:39 PM rename title to "deconstruction because of mathematic error"...
:rofl:
helghast January 17th, 2009, 11:43 PM http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2009/1/pages/01182009_63dc3a90c9a848219058be301f3f7ded.aspx
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 11:47 PM btw dinovabec: you missed 3 dots on the diagram :>
Where?
Jarott January 17th, 2009, 11:47 PM Burj Dubai has risen to its final height of 818 metres, a project contractor told this newspaper in a recent interview. The spire was erected in the third week of December. Since then, a beacon has been installed at the top, usually the final topping-out of a tower.
which says the article is plain bullshit :> we saw couple jackings after the beacon was lit :>
Steve_DXB January 17th, 2009, 11:49 PM hey guys, you showed it yourself: the top floors are 3m. so if the manhole moved ~one floor up, what was prooved, then we have a 4m rise MAX. what's so complicated about it?
otr: this amount of sarcasm may couse some overheat ;P
Jarott
The panels on the spire cladding that is been jacked up are 3.2m (distance between the horizontal lines, from Fury's annotated picture)^^
The floors on the main structure are 6m (from Culwulla's diagram). ^^
For some perspective, the manhole has gone up approximately 5 times it's own height. It's roughly twice as high as it is wide so if the spire has gone up only 4m that hole is 80cmx40cm - obviously for a very small man to go through sideways and on his knees!:bash:
DinoVabec January 17th, 2009, 11:51 PM http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2009/1/pages/01182009_63dc3a90c9a848219058be301f3f7ded.aspx
Burj Dubai all set for 09/09/09 soft opening
By Sona Nambiar on Sunday, January 18, 2009
Burj Dubai, the world's tallest man-made structure, will see a "soft opening" on September 9 this year in tandem with the launch of Dubai Metro, according to an industry source.
"The target is to have the event coincide with the opening of the Metro on 09/09/09," a person close to the matter told Emirates Business. "There is still work to be done in terms of finishing the building," the person said. "This includes the access and exit planning as well as connecting the sewerage lines to the main network."
These issues are being addressed to ensure optimum working of the building before final occupancy, the person said.
Despite several attempts, developer Emaar Properties did not comment on the subject by the time this newspaper went to press.
The groundbreaking for Burj Dubai took place in September 2004 and completion was projected by late 2008. In June 2008, Emaar Chairman Mohamed Ali Alabbar said in a statement: "We believe that a completion date of September 2009 is possible and reasonable for a project of this global magnitude and significance."
Burj Dubai has risen to its final height of 818 metres, a project contractor told this newspaper in a recent interview. The spire was erected in the third week of December. Since then, a beacon has been installed at the top, usually the final topping-out of a tower.
When completed, Burj Dubai will meet all four criteria listed by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH), which classifies the world's tallest structures. CTBUH measures the height of buildings to the structural top, the highest occupied floor, the top of the roof and the tip of the spire, pinnacle, antenna, mast or flagpole.
Contractor Besix said it is working to complete the work on schedule. "We signed a new agreement with Emaar Properties last year and they gave us an extension of time to complete the project in 2009," said Didier Bosredon, Deputy Project Director at Besix.
"The 154th floor will house the office of the Emaar chairman. The façade is still not finished and work is in progress," he said.
Besix is working jointly with Samsung and Arabtec as the main contractors on Burj Dubai.
The tower will have an observation deck on Level 124, which will offer visitors a bird's-eye view of the city and beyond.
Burj Dubai is part of the $20 billion (Dh73.47bn) Burj Dubai development, which includes a shopping mall, hotels and a variety of residential buildings.
Old Town Resident January 18th, 2009, 12:06 AM Hmmmm, an article in business 24/7 dated Saturday 17th December quoting an unknown contractor and a statement by Sona Nambiar on Sunday, January 18, 2009 in the same article.:ohno:
Some sticky fingers in this post, or can someone give me Sona's number so I can get next weeks lotto numbers.
Oh, and this site was posted before todays jacking, well done Sona, what model of crystal ball do you use:lol:
cooperchris January 18th, 2009, 12:10 AM hey guys, you showed it yourself: the top floors are 3m. so if the manhole moved ~one floor up, what was prooved, then we have a 4m rise MAX. what's so complicated about it?
btw dinovabec: you missed 3 dots on the diagram :>
otr: this amount of sarcasm may couse some overheat ;P
The steel floors are 6.4m, each piece of cladding is 3.2m, so exactly 2 cladding pieces per one steel section. That hatch would have to be for the Burj Dubai guard dog if it only moved up 4m!! Look at it compared with a steel section, it's about the same height as a man, no way it moved up 4m, the spire moved up over 9m.
:bash:
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 12:10 AM Hmmmm, an article in business 24/7 dated Saturday 17th December quoting an unknown contractor and a statement by Sona Nambiar on Sunday, January 18, 2009 in the same article.:ohno:
Some sticky fingers in this post, or can someone give me Sona's number so I can get next weeks lotto numbers.
Oh, and this site was posted before todays jacking, well done Sona, what model of crystal ball do you use:lol:
Is there any article lately that isn't full of crap and that shows the real situation??:ohno:
Hightech Pro January 18th, 2009, 12:13 AM hey guys, you showed it yourself: the top floors are 3m. so if the manhole moved ~one floor up, what was prooved, then we have a 4m rise MAX. what's so complicated about it?
btw dinovabec: you missed 3 dots on the diagram :>
otr: this amount of sarcasm may couse some overheat ;PThe rise was about 8.5m (6.4m + 2 times the doors height), the missing 1.5m has already been sticking out at the top on the previous shots before the jacking!
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 12:13 AM The steel floors are 6.4m, each piece of cladding is 3.2m, so exactly 2 cladding pieces per one steel section. That hatch would have to be for the Burj Dubai guard dog if it only moved up 4m!! Look at it compared with a steel section, it's about the same height as a man, no way it moved up 4m, the spire moved up over 9m.
:bash:
Save your nerves...We know that it's T/O...
Fury will come and tell the same, and then wont be any doubt anymore...:)
cooperchris January 18th, 2009, 12:16 AM Save your nerves...We know that it's T/O...
Fury will come and tell the same, and then wont be any doubt anymore...:)
Hopefully! :cheers:
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 12:18 AM Hopefully! :cheers:
In case he wont be online today, I have another proof that it's on 818...:cheers:
stefan040780 January 18th, 2009, 12:19 AM The steel floors are 6.4m, each piece of cladding is 3.2m, so exactly 2 cladding pieces per one steel section. That hatch would have to be for the Burj Dubai guard dog if it only moved up 4m!! Look at it compared with a steel section, it's about the same height as a man, no way it moved up 4m, the spire moved up over 9m.
:bash:
rofl...a hatch for the Burj Dubai guard dog...great :lol:
Jarott January 18th, 2009, 12:23 AM The steel floors are 6.4m, each piece of cladding is 3.2m, so exactly 2 cladding pieces per one steel section. That hatch would have to be for the Burj Dubai guard dog if it only moved up 4m!! Look at it compared with a steel section, it's about the same height as a man, no way it moved up 4m, the spire moved up over 9m.
:bash:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/699/notso6mfb9.jpg
so i think you should bash at yourself mate.
Jarott
The panels on the spire cladding that is been jacked up are 3.2m (distance between the horizontal lines, from Fury's annotated picture)^^
The floors on the main structure are 6m (from Culwulla's diagram). ^^
For some perspective, the manhole has gone up approximately 5 times it's own height. It's roughly twice as high as it is wide so if the spire has gone up only 4m that hole is 80cmx40cm - obviously for a very small man to go through sideways and on his knees!:bash:
1st of all: and the arabian guys are the bigger brothers of yao ming, all of them.
2nd of all: the floors are 3m high ^^^^^^ there you have the diagram. (and as proven on the pic below, two claddings make one floor which makes them 1,5m high, 3x1,5m gives 4.5m . so you have another proof? damn i'm to good).
and finally 3rd of all: if the floors are 3m high, which they are ^^^^ (hint: the diagram) on the previous page i made a nice graph that shows the manhole went one floor up. maybe a bit more which will be about 4m up. check it out, its there.
edit: for your comfort: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6812/enoughag1.jpg
Where?
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6184/burj5ok7.jpg
the greeny onesies ;)
Is there any article lately that isn't full of crap and that shows the real situation??:ohno:
i don't know, but this one is crap and therefore its useless. according to it, the bd topped out a month ago.
cooperchris January 18th, 2009, 12:26 AM In case he wont be online today, I have another proof that it's on 818...:cheers:
I'm intrigued...
Fury January 18th, 2009, 12:30 AM Hi all.
As long as they stick to the plans - and I'm sure they will.
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
Absolutely - without a doubt - TOPPED OUT !!!!!!!!!
I will make a labelled shot to help illustrate - although many of you have made excelent ones.
WOOHOO !!!!!!
:cheers:
nautica17 January 18th, 2009, 12:31 AM w00t! Finally!
ArchiTennis January 18th, 2009, 12:31 AM first of all: lots of you guys suddenly became extremly knowlagable, making decissions and stuff. funny
and as forr the jack: in my opinion it hasn't topped out, just like otr said, and as for proof:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6812/enoughag1.jpg
the green lines show you the floors. as you see the manhole moved only a bit more than one floor up. it may be the highest structure on earth, but i don't belive it has 10m floors.
and as for the cladding. if you compare the yellow line to the green one, you can see, that there are two cladding pieces, for one floor. and this again is a proof for going up about 4m, leaving the building at ~812m.
btw the emaar guys must be quite entertaining people, even getting the idea of visually increasing the tower height by making the top cladding smaller demands some specific way of thinking. i'm sure having a dinner with them must be soooooooo interesting.
thanks...this is very useful.
cooperchris January 18th, 2009, 12:32 AM http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/699/notso6mfb9.jpg
so i think you should bash at yourself mate.
1st of all: and the arabian guys are the bigger brothers of yao ming, all of them.
2nd of all: the floors are 3m high ^^^^^^ there you have the diagram.
and finally 3rd of all: if the floors are 3m high, which they are ^^^^ (hint: the diagram) on the previous page i made a nice graph that shows the manhole went one floor up. maybe a bit more which will be about 4m up. check it out, its there.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6184/burj5ok7.jpg
the greeny onesies ;)
i don't know, but this one is crap and therefore its useless. according to it, the bd topped out a month ago.
OH MY GOD!! Culwulla rounded the height of the floors down to 3m!!! Same for 6m floors which are exactly 6.4m. I HAVE OFFICIAL PLANS WHICH FURY KINDLY GAVE ME. They show each piece of cladding as 3.2m!
Fury, SOS!
:lol:
cooperchris January 18th, 2009, 12:33 AM Hi all.
As long as they stick to the plans - and I'm sure they will.
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
Absolutely - without a doubt - TOPPED OUT !!!!!!!!!
I will make a labelled shot to help illustrate - although many of you have made excelent ones.
WOOHOO !!!!!!
:cheers:
YES!!! THANK YOU RAY!!!
:cheers:
Steve_DXB January 18th, 2009, 12:36 AM http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/699/notso6mfb9.jpg
so i think you should bash at yourself mate.
...but we're looking at tier 23, not 24 to 27.
The tiers that you showed with the (green) stairs are tiers 22 and 23, going up to 739m, the 3m floors are the ones that were jacked up today, 3 of them :)
^^ Fury has now appeared and is in agreement that it's T/O...
Let the parties start! (except that it's 2:30AM here and should really be time to disappear for the night)
Steve
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 12:42 AM http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6184/burj5ok7.jpg
the greeny onesies ;)
i don't know, but this one is crap and therefore its useless. according to it, the bd topped out a month ago.
Exactly...My diagram was when the spire was stil at 808...
Your diagram is when the spire is at 818...
When you lift the spire on my diagram to 818, your dots and my dots will be at the same high, right?
But important fact here is that there is 9 dots...Each one on the every cladding section...And each cladding section is 3m(and something) high...
So, if they lift the spire to 818 (like they did) they will lift it for 3 dots...And 3 x 3(and something) = 9m(and something)...
And if the spire was earlier at 808(and something) + lifted 9m(and something) = you will be at 818m...And that's T/O...
Any questions??
stefan040780 January 18th, 2009, 12:42 AM Thank you Fury,
I knew the whole time we were right! :banana:
Magic moment in history: 17th January 2009: Burj Dubai T/O at 818m :cheers:
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 12:46 AM I have no comments anymore...Now, let's all go out for drink...People which are saying that isn't T/O, treats...:cheers::lol:
Jarott January 18th, 2009, 12:46 AM Exactly...My diagram was when the spire was stil at 808...
Your diagram is when the spire is at 818...
When you lift the spire on my diagram to 818, your dots and my dots will be at the same high, right?
But important fact here is that there is 9 dots...Each one on the every cladding section...And each cladding section is 3m(and something) high...
So, if they lift the spire to 818 (like they did) they will lift it for 3 dots...And 3 x 3(and something) = 9m(and something)...
And if the spire was earlier at 808(and something) + lifted 9m(and something) = you will be at 818m...And that's T/O...
Any questions??
since Fury's posts, well. we can only wait. i belive some of us are in for a surprise in a couple of days.
Hightech Pro January 18th, 2009, 12:48 AM Oh my god, i am glad to have watched TV all the time and avoided to get involved into some of the last arguments. Some of you should really get the facts right before posting something.
I am glad Fury cleared it all up now. Time to calm down!!
:dance:
Lets have a small topping out party! yeah!!!
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 12:49 AM according to the diagram, the FLOORS are 3m high (probably 3.2m exactly), and the claddings are half of that, what is clearly showed. i'd say the cladding is 1.6, and the move up is around 5m.
since Fury's posts, well. we can only wait. i belive some of us are in for a surprise in a couple of days.
Ok my man, you'll see in a couple of days...But I'm tellin' ya, it wont be any lifting anymore...:cheers:
Steve_DXB January 18th, 2009, 12:50 AM Hi all.
As long as they stick to the plans - and I'm sure they will.
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
:dance:
Absolutely - without a doubt - TOPPED OUT !!!!!!!!!
I will make a labelled shot to help illustrate - although many of you have made excelent ones.
WOOHOO !!!!!!
:cheers:
If the most authoritative voice on here is so unequivocal about it, then I bet that it's TOPPED OUT - 17-01-09, a date to remember!!
Fury, they've not deviated from the plans yet, and the access hatch at the top of tier 23 is clearly visible from the reverse angle so it's definitely not going any higher - THIS IS IT!
I wasn't too sure earlier, but on closer look I think the position of the door
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8333/bd4mf1.jpg
gives it away - this tier will not go any higher, therefore we must be topped out :banana::cheers::banana::cheers:
guzm@n January 18th, 2009, 12:51 AM OMG...:uh:
This day will be unforgettable for this forum, which almost grow around this project.
Anybody have a video? it will be interesting to see the final moment:banana:
AvanGard January 18th, 2009, 12:52 AM Burj Dubai Topped Out 818m
:cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1:
17.01.2009 The Day History Rose
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 12:56 AM So, happy topping out averyone...:lol:
Hightech Pro January 18th, 2009, 12:57 AM @Jarrot
One cladding part is higher than the cranes cabin, who would be able to work in there if it were only 1.6m high? :lol:
stefan040780 January 18th, 2009, 12:58 AM Can now someone chance the name of the thread from U/C to T/O?
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 01:00 AM @Jarrot
One cladding part is higher than the cranes cabin, who would be able to work in there if it were only 1.6m high? :lol:
Exactly...The cladding part is the same height as the floor...
Cliffjumper January 18th, 2009, 01:01 AM good lord, it's a big day i cant belive it, well done !!
Burj Dubai T/O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AltinD January 18th, 2009, 01:06 AM January 17th
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AltinD January 18th, 2009, 01:07 AM Thank you to 234sale for hosting us. Nice to meet him and also nice to meet Imre again
http://i40.tinypic.com/28vy6bc.jpg
:cheers:
kon133 January 18th, 2009, 01:08 AM BRAWO DUBAI BRAWO
:banana:^^:cucumber::applause::banana2::dance::cheer::drunk::nocrook::carrot::pepper:
DinoVabec January 18th, 2009, 01:09 AM What a beautiful shot...Straight to my desktop...:cheers:
SilentStrike January 18th, 2009, 01:16 AM is it T/O??
Pablobegood January 18th, 2009, 01:20 AM WELL DONE BURJ DUBAI! This is a day to remember!!
BIEN HECHO BURJ DUBAI!! Este es un día para recordar!!
:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
My bananas are already happy! :banana::banana2:
ZZ-II January 18th, 2009, 01:33 AM is it T/O??
yes, it is. first i thought it isn't..but after i took a look on the 818m plan i saw i was wrong. seems the plan i posted before is a bit wrong.
Birdboy08 January 18th, 2009, 01:37 AM I am meeting with the Executive Director of the CTBUH (Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat). I know they make the heights official (in a nutshell) on tall buildings such as this one, and they were mentioned a few pages back on Burj Dubai's official height. Anything you guys want me to ask him?
Fury January 18th, 2009, 01:42 AM Hi all.
Nice shots Altin.
Here is a labelled shot from Imre. This is a day for the history books guys.
We are Topped out !!!
http://a.imagehost.org/0051/Spire_jacking_5_Topped_out.jpg
This has been a fantastic structure to watch grow and even though it will not grow any more there is lots of work to do yet.
- Finish up tier 22 sections.
- Finish attaching the small wings of tiers 22 and 23 to the pinnacle pipe.
- Finish all the cladding.
- Do the crane disassembly proceedure.
- Finish all the work at the base.
- Do all the interior finish and fitout.
We still have near a year to go before completion. I hope site visits are allowed again so we can see some of that interior work.
Thanks to all you guys for the vote of confidence - makes me feel good as I put alot of thought and time into this great structure. I don't consider myself as an expert - just fairly knowledgable on the subjects that interest me.
Thanks again.
:cheers:
Fury January 18th, 2009, 01:46 AM I am meeting with the Executive Director of the CTBUH (Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat). I know they make the heights official (in a nutshell) on tall buildings such as this one, and they were mentioned a few pages back on Burj Dubai's official height. Anything you guys want me to ask him?
Hi Birdboy.
Probably to early but if he is aware of the 3 entrances all at different levels does he have any idea if the Concourse level will be included as it's entrance does open to "grade" on that side of the structure ? Also Cul has answered this but doesn't hurt to ask again - will the beacons be included ?
Thanks.
:cheers:
/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8 January 18th, 2009, 01:49 AM YEEEAAAAH PARTY IN THE FORUM:D
:nocrook:BURJ DUBAI 818m:nocrook:
:colgate:17 / JANUARY / 2009:colgate:
:banana::cheers1::cheer::dance2::booze::dance::booze::dance2::cheer::cheers1::banana:
PD::I can not believe they finally reached their final height, jeje after more than 10 pages a day now I think this deserves to celebrate big
...hopefully no mistake
Carlosvlc January 18th, 2009, 01:49 AM Ole, Ole !!!
I'm happy !!!
carmeloo January 18th, 2009, 01:53 AM What can I say? WOW. 818 --its REAL
Thanks for all especial for Imre, Fury, Thanks guys for all!!
Wrocl'awianin January 18th, 2009, 02:04 AM :cheers:Wonderful moment:):cheers:
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:
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AltinD January 18th, 2009, 02:04 AM January 14th (progress on the lake)
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SilentStrike January 18th, 2009, 02:09 AM :banana::banana::carrot::carrot::pepper::pepper::guns1::guns1::baeh3::baeh3::):):cheers::cheers::nuts::nuts:;);):bowtie::bowtie::hug::hug::angel::angel::D:D:grouphug::grouphug::hahaha::hahaha:m))m)):wink2::wink2::tongue3::tongue3::clown::clown::booze::booze::dance2::dance2::dj::dj::crazy::crazy::|:applause::applause::tyty::tyty::gunz::gunz::cheers1::cheers1::angel1::angel1::rock::rock::goodbye::goodbye::master::master::eat::eat::banana2::banana2::righton::righton::cheer::cool::cool::lovethem::lovethem::nocrook::nocrook::hahano::hahano::happy::happy::kiss::kiss::colgate::colgate::rofl::laugh::laugh:
Grats Dubai!!!
cooperchris January 18th, 2009, 02:15 AM What a beautiful shot...Straight to my desktop...:cheers:
Me too! Nice pic Altin, from the bar? :cheers:
roogenial January 18th, 2009, 02:24 AM I'm so happy, I'm gonna cry of joy.
Well, now they have to finish the inside part of the building, I think.
When is the official opening of this monster?
cooperchris January 18th, 2009, 02:28 AM It's official on the thread title now, T/O.
Burj Dubai - The Greatest Structure Of All Time!!!
:cheers::nuts::):banana::lol::cheers::nuts::bash::banana::lol:
santa_cruz January 18th, 2009, 02:36 AM :dance::dance::dance::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg:I LOVE DUBAI:master::master::master::master::master::master::master::master::dj::dj::dj:
caracucho52 January 18th, 2009, 02:44 AM :banana::dance:
Banjaluchanin January 18th, 2009, 02:45 AM Happy birthday BD! :):cheers::nuts::lol::ohno::bash:^^:banana::(:deadthrea:hahano::cool::nocrook::llama::lovethem::yes::crazy2::poke::rofl::speech::rant::jippo::tongue4::kiss::okay::laugh::rofl::uh::puke::colgate::bowtie:;):gossip::hug::carrot::angel::stupid::tongue2::jk::grouphug::spam1::D:tongue3::hahaha:m)):fart::wink2::pepper::baaa::clown::weird::soon::bleep::booze::redx::dance2::tongue::baeh3::goodnight:old::moods::no::crazy::soapbox::shifty::guns1::|:dj::lock::evil::banned::toilet::doh:>(:runaway::nono::dunno::scouserd::sleepy::bow::cheers2::eek2::applause::sly::cucumber::?:down::gunz::tyty::naughty::rock::cheers1::blahblah::eek::fiddle::skull::angel1::gaah::goodbye::master::banana2::2cents::drool::eat::ancient::wtf::righton::mad::omg::cheer::cry::wallbash::mad2::hi::horse::pet::dizzy::weirdo::hilarious:shocked::lurker::hm::devil::drunk::wave::badnews::tiasd::dance:
geoff189d January 18th, 2009, 02:52 AM One fine structure. Many, many congratulations!
TowerJunkie January 18th, 2009, 03:07 AM BURJ DUBAI IS KING OF TOWERS...FORUM PARTY...YAYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHEERS TO EVERYONE WHO GAVE US THE NONSTOP FLOW OF UPDATES WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WILL NEVER FORGET!
DEAR EMIRATIS, CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS GREAT SUCCESS
:dance::dance::dance:
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CrazyAboutCities January 18th, 2009, 03:10 AM WOW!!! I couldn't believe Burj Dubai topped out!!! It is like yesterday when they broke the ground... WOW! Congratulation, Dubai!!! :applause:
Pablobegood January 18th, 2009, 03:12 AM I can see a worker celebrating too! :nocrook:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2417/01enero170ap9.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01enero170ap9.jpg)
Cyman January 18th, 2009, 03:13 AM Now that the confusions seems to have ended I want to join in and say my congratulations for the T/O of Burj Dubai although secretly I wished it would get even higher - 888m would have been great, but 818m is still enough reason to be proud of such a masterpiece of engineering!
SilentStrike January 18th, 2009, 03:18 AM grats dubai on topping out one of the greatest structures ever!
my 500th post :)
NoAllegiance January 18th, 2009, 03:44 AM Congrats Dubai, congrats Burj Dubai! well done, well done indeed. Top out at 818. jolly good show!
Krattle January 18th, 2009, 03:54 AM Simply awesome. I dreamed as a child that such towers would someday be built but I NEVER thought that they would be built in my lifetime. It's too bad the news won't report on this, even though it is more important than half the crap they blabber on about.
:banana::cheers::nuts::grouphug::clown::guns1::cheers2::bow::cucumber::cheers1:
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Cyman January 18th, 2009, 04:25 AM BTW, did anyone figure this: 17.01.09--> 1+7=8, 0+1=1, 0+9=9 which makes 8+1+9 or 819 which is the final height in metres! (Of course one can always make such calculations, 08.01.09 would have been even perfect of course, 26.01.09 would also have worked so it's clear it's just a coincidence ;-) )
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