I've just seen a tv programme on Discovery Science about Burj Dubai. There was an interview with an architect and some other things about the building.

http://i17.tinypic.com/71331o1.jpg

^^ those cars are going round the roundabout the wrong way !! :lol:

^^ those cars are going round the roundabout the wrong way !! :lol:


No there not, they are reversing. Anything can happen with Dubai driving.

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Mechanical floor cladding, finally! :banana:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5719/imresolt015cd4.jpg

^ I think those things have been there for a while.

yes, right ^^. but there are more now as i can see

^^ those cars are going round the roundabout the wrong way !! :lol:

Are you kidding? If yes that joke does only work for englishmen... at least in europe and most parts of the rest of the world :nuts:

I read somewhere that Burj Dubai will be 5.5 million sq/ft. 25% more space than the Sears Tower. So the Tower is thin at all, that's a hell of a lot of rental space. :cheers:

i wonder why the formwork is still on if steel spire work has now begun. also, the new crane might be for lifting in place steel sections for the pinnacle that is planned to be erected inside the building core then hoisted up.

It's a shame they don't seem to last very long. See Imre's pics of dead trees.

^^ LOL!!

Those are the palms being transported to site. They are not dead, thats what they look like during the transplanting stage! :lol:

I've just seen a tv programme on Discovery Science about Burj Dubai. There was an interview with an architect and some other things about the building. what channel ?

^^ LOL!!

Those are the palms being transported to site. They are not dead, thats what they look like during the transplanting stage! :lol:

I am pleased to hear this. They are not dead but sleeping!

the steel construction is not visible yet. the picture posted by oldtown resident is part of the formwork.

Wow, great news, the mechanicals floors' facade is beginning, the steel structure too and the last wing in this photo is almost finished!
:cheers::cheers::cheers:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3662/imresolt029le2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt029le2.jpg)

STEELWORK ON TOP STARTED


have you seen steel at the site ?

this is a great update, i love how the facade is progressing

Wow, great news, the mechanicals floors' facade is beginning, the steel structure too and the last wing in this photo is almost finished!
:cheers::cheers::cheers:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3662/imresolt029le2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt029le2.jpg)

Yes, 4 slabs left :)

STEELWORK ON TOP STARTED
http://i2.tinypic.com/82w8v93.jpg

the steel construction is not visible yet. the picture posted by oldtown resident is part of the formwork.

My thoughts exactly.

It looks like as they're disassembling the outer formwork, we begin to see inside it toward the inner formwork. And no doubt they used metal beams to hold it all together.

Remember, the formwork wasn't just on the outside of the building...They needed it on the inside too, to form the inner core walls, and to back the outer forms.

Hmmm...

An observation of the picture in the previous post (http://i2.tinypic.com/82w8v93.jpg).

On the side of the tower facing towards us, we can see the sky through the future door frame. This means the core floor slab for the floor above it has still not reached this level.

My conclusion is the core floor slab is either at Tier 13, lvl 148 or just above on floor 149. Which therefore means we wont be seeing any steelwork for sometime.

However, the media has been advised concrete work has already been completed?

Something does not add up here…

yes the time has come to leave behind the concrete and start steel.the next few sections up to 612 will take rest of year.
@glassnsteel. the pinnacle wont start until next year, The steel section which consists of 40 levels will take atleast 6 months to erect. the pinnacle will start to be constructed inside this but not until late 08.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3662/imresolt029le2.jpg

The formwork seen a few days ago being taken down was that of tier 10's =) ive noticed it was there one day and gone the next so it must be from there. seeing as no visable formwork has been removed from the top.

have you seen steel at the site ?

No steel noticed yet Helghast.

I've a question about this picture:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s163/Joeyjordisonfan16/Burj%20Dubai/bddoka37wv.jpg

Where are the elevatorshafts?

thats a good question, maybe the centre triangle.

Yesterday I was walking under the Natwest Tower, the tallest building in the City of London. A band of steel rises 600 ft vertically. It looks very impressive. It has occurred to me that tha Burj Dubai will be four times the height! I am afraid this is enough to knock the socks off anyone straining their neck to look to the top of it. Amazing, really wow!!

thats a good question, maybe the centre triangle.

I dont think so. According to the plans of the armani hotel that is a corridor. Although this picture is many stories above the armani part, i dont think that it is used as a lift shaft.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4771/armanihotelfloorplanpf8.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armanihotelfloorplanpf8.jpg)

What is going on? It's been almost 24 days since the last official height update. Where should it be at now?

I've a question about this picture:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s163/Joeyjordisonfan16/Burj%20Dubai/bddoka37wv.jpg

Where are the elevatorshafts?

Is the white "roof" just the top of the self rising form ? - from above you won't be able to see the elveator shafts. ( from 353 N Clark, Chicago, US ).

There are 3 square shafts below this form, one has the white crane, 1 the red, and the 3rd has been covered. The forms hang from this platform of beams, which sits on stilts that connect to the last completed section.

http://lh3.google.com/harry.r.carmichael/Rz9LAKJbxqI/AAAAAAAAOQY/zCaGcUFM4tQ/P1120631.JPG?imgmax=800

idkblk - that is a killer floor plan - took a minute to recognize the elevator shafts - so many,

Mh, yah sounds very plausible.
But looks very complicated though. There must be another formwork down below to errect all the other walls in the core. Anyway, now it's relatively simple. When you look back 1.5-2 years... when the burj looked like that

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Formwork everywhere... i ask myself how does such a big project work with no jerk forgetting to make the changes for a door in the wall in the formwork... Just incredible!!!

Mh, yah sounds very plausible.
But looks very complicated though. There must be another formwork down below to errect all the other walls in the core.

I believe in your photo the black lines are the spaces in between the forms, the walls or core, the white areas are the tops of the frames, what will be "open". Does anyone know ?

Hi all.

^^ - Actually that is the Armani floorplan - levels 9 to 16.
You are correct Harry - Here is a print of level 3. A repost but it shows the lifts very well.

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Picasa - Sarah - 07 11 10:

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Enjoy. :cheers:

I read somewhere that Burj Dubai will be 5.5 million sq/ft. 25% more space than the Sears Tower. So the Tower is thin at all, that's a hell of a lot of rental space. :cheers:

Do you have a link ? The Dubai Mall has a proposed gross floor area of 5.5 million sq m, spread over four levels, of which 3.6 million sq m is dedicated retail space.

hello to jhalsey i thought that the natwest tower was 600 foot and canary whalf was 777foot high which is the uk tallest building.

Can't wait for it to start going up again. This is getting boring.

^but there iss till some to watch, like the facade and concrete sections on lower levels. at least there catching up and will look better once steel is rising. should come together well next year.

This has grown so much since I last came onto here, and I am loving every moment of it.

Earlier we were discussing just how massive this tower actually is, cause from all the photos we were viewing it appeared that the tower wasn't 'extraordinarily' tall and some were even saying that it was way to thin at the bottom for it to comfortably and proportionally reach 819m tall. Some said that because we hadn't seen a tower this tall before or because we had no life size object we could use, to relate and compare the height and width of this building, was the reason it didn't look big. Also the fact that because the photos are taken from a distant, the building can also appear small.

Just to put things into perspective on actually how huge this tower is I have the floor plans of Eureka Tower Melbourne (lev 11), along with a photograph of Eureka, to compare with the floor plans of the armani hotel in Burj Dubai. I have also photoshopped both floorplans showing a scaled size figure of a human (represented by the red line), using the beds as a guide to the size of a human in proportion to the floor plan, to visually represent what it would look like with people inside the building. This should give you all a clear sense of just how enormous the Burj Dubai is. Just beyond belief

Enjoy!!! :cheers::nuts::omg::eek2:

Photograph of Eureka Tower:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/417/eurekatower0944abf5.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eurekatower0944abf5.jpg)

Photoshopped floor plan of Eureka tower (lev 11)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3060/eurekafloorplansincompaxw3.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eurekafloorplansincompaxw3.jpg)

Photoshopped floor plan of Burj Dubai Armani Hotel
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8293/humancomparisontoentirejd7.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=humancomparisontoentirejd7.jpg)

18/November/2007

Burj Dubai, nice weather today:)

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wow great pics thank you

nice pics Imre. i can see that the cladding is going up pretty fast now. :)

Does anyone know actually when they are gonna start putting steel on the top?

Earlier we were discussing just how massive this tower actually is, cause from all the photos we were viewing it appeared that the tower wasn't 'extraordinarily' tall and some were even saying that it was way to thin at the bottom for it to comfortably and proportionally reach 819m tall. Some said that because we hadn't seen a tower this tall before or because we had no life size object we could use, to relate and compare the height and width of this building, was the reason it didn't look big. Also the fact that because the photos are taken from a distant, the building can also appear small.

Just to put things into perspective on actually how huge this tower is I have the floor plans of Eureka Tower Melbourne (lev 11), along with a photograph of Eureka, to compare with the floor plans of the armani hotel in Burj Dubai. I have also photoshopped both floorplans showing a scaled size figure of a human (represented by the red line), using the beds as a guide to the size of a human in proportion to the floor plan, to visually represent what it would look like with people inside the building. This should give you all a clear sense of just how enormous the Burj Dubai is. Just beyond belief

Enjoy!!! :cheers::nuts::omg::eek2:

Photograph of Eureka Tower:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/417/eurekatower0944abf5.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eurekatower0944abf5.jpg)

Photoshopped floor plan of Eureka tower (lev 11)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3060/eurekafloorplansincompaxw3.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eurekafloorplansincompaxw3.jpg)

Photoshopped floor plan of Burj Dubai Armani Hotel
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8293/humancomparisontoentirejd7.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=humancomparisontoentirejd7.jpg)

I have a question about tthat last photoshopped floor plan you posted.
If i look at the emergency staircase's, they are not situated in a way that eveyrbody on all appartments can go 2 ways if there is a fire.
for example the people of the big apartements furthest away form the core,
can only go 1 way if there is a fire. And if that fire is at that aprtement next to them, they can't escape safely.
Or don't they take fire escape's building laws that serieuosly in these regions?

Mechanical floor cladding, finally! :banana:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5719/imresolt015cd4.jpg


SOM calls it strong back. or backbone of the cladding as it is offset. its not the cladding perse. MF units ( read :cladding) could only be installed as soon as the units below is done.

Maybe its a visual mockup...

Something complety different.............. with all these super skyscrapers coming up in the middle east has anyone thought maybe its the end of time???

Coming days to Judgement day as its says something in the holy books that the signs are there when there are tall structures on earth.

Thats what i heard anywhere

Just something different

they say 2012 is Judgement day, off topic
I have a question about tthat last photoshopped floor plan you posted.
If i look at the emergency staircase's, they are not situated in a way that eveyrbody on all appartments can go 2 ways if there is a fire.
for example the people of the big apartements furthest away form the core,
can only go 1 way if there is a fire. And if that fire is at that aprtement next to them, they can't escape safely.
Or don't they take fire escape's building laws that serieuosly in these regions?

believe me, the engineers and architects really thought about it. so i highly doubt they didnt figure something out for the apartments that are farthest from the core

hello to jhalsey i thought that the natwest tower was 600 foot and canary whalf was 777foot high which is the uk tallest building.

True but Canary Wharf is not in the City of London. The City of London is a small borough around St Paul's Cathedral comprising a square mile or so.:nuts::nuts:

Something complety different.............. with all these super skyscrapers coming up in the middle east has anyone thought maybe its the end of time???

Coming days to Judgement day as its says something in the holy books that the signs are there when there are tall structures on earth.

Thats what i heard anywhere

Just something different

:devil: end of time is coming!! thats what uriella told me!::devil:

:rofl:

thx for the update imre.

Platinum registration.

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OMG ! Great photos ! BD keeps growing and growing almost to eternity !

I have a question about tthat last photoshopped floor plan you posted.
If i look at the emergency staircase's, they are not situated in a way that eveyrbody on all appartments can go 2 ways if there is a fire.
for example the people of the big apartements furthest away form the core,
can only go 1 way if there is a fire. And if that fire is at that aprtement next to them, they can't escape safely.
Or don't they take fire escape's building laws that serieuosly in these regions?

Eureka Tower is one of the first buildings int he world to have fire proof lift shafts. forget the stairs you can take the lifts!
btw, the Burj d is twice the width of Eureka at its lower floors.

thanks for that jhalsey

how g00d does this l00k!

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has there been a plan change, not that it's official. but on the 818m plans the highest occupied floor level was a tier 22. now it's 21
here's the tier 22 were it's supposed to be the highest occupied floor
http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/latest-plan.jpg
here's the plan from Fury, that say the highest flo0r is tier 21
http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/Fury_plans/Burj_Dubai_07_10_2.jpg

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT OFFICAL

Hi all.

Some of the info I used for version 3 of my analysis is from that same print.
I used the info from the left side of it. My work is correct with what is on the left side of that print.

No change as far as I can see.

Hey guys, just came across this while searching for other things of interest ^^.

http://travel.howstuffworks.com/burj-dubai.htm Looks like the article was launched today or very recently. Though it doesn't show us anything insanely new, it is neat to see the BD cropping up in nearly all factual sites of interest.

^^ Thats pretty cool Real - I've been going to that site for years - never thought the Burj would be in there.

This highest occupied floor thing ...

Level 154 is the highest boutique office mezzanine. That is the highest level with an official use. As Cul has said there is many levels above this where a person can go. Accessed by either stairs or ladders a person can go right to the top of the structure. So all levels could be the highest occupied level if interpretated loosely. IMO 154 is the highest occupied level by the plans. Perhaps there will be some small Emaar offices higher that are not on the plans.

:cheers:

Hi all.

Some of the info I used for version 3 of my analysis is from that same print.
I used the info from the left side of it. My work is correct with what is on the left side of that print.

No change as far as I can see.

so it's tier 22 ?

^^ Thats pretty cool Real - I've been going to that site for years - never thought the Burj would be in there.

This highest occupied floor thing ...

Level 154 is the highest boutique office mezzanine. That is the highest level with an official use. As Cul has said there is many levels above this where a person can go. Accessed by either stairs or ladders a person can go right to the top of the structure. So all levels could be the highest occupied level if interpretated loosely. IMO 154 is the highest occupied level by the plans. Perhaps there will be some small Emaar offices higher that are not on the plans.

:cheers:well there's about 800 sqft at 700m. that should be enough for Emaar office :dunno:

No it is tier 21. But as i said it depends how you interpret occupied.

Tier 22 starts at 700.9 meters, The wings are approx 200 sq. ft. each. The wings and center area are seperate areas. also the third wing is a terrace. So 2 200 sq. ft. wings and a center area the is also divided even more makes for some pretty small offices but possible I guess.

im guessing the new formwork being taken down is from the (inside) core part where we cannot see it. because from the outside its still all there.

Tier 11 is almost complete, but shall take a while to finish off as it is a mech floor.

Tier 12 only has a few more levels to top out, its moving very fast.

the other concrete winglets are also nearly done, apart from the side where the crane looks dangerously un supported and covered in the green mesh.. surely they shud have taken this crane down by now. (unless its the crane being used for the steel.)

Hey Ember,

refer to this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=534013&page=64) post.

Eureka Tower is one of the first buildings int he world to have fire proof lift shafts. forget the stairs you can take the lifts!
btw, the Burj d is twice the width of Eureka at its lower floors.

Are you sure that the width of BD is twice that of Eureka? cause i pass it everyday while travelling and it actually appears quite thin - even when viewing it relatively close. I'd imagine that the width of BD would be 3 times or maybe 4 times the width of Eureka. What do you say?

Hey Ember,

refer to this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=534013&page=64) post.


o.O wat?

^^ those cars are going round the roundabout the wrong way !! :lol:

Oh, you Brits ! ;D

the other concrete winglets are also nearly done, apart from the side where the crane looks dangerously un supported and covered in the green mesh.. surely they shud have taken this crane down by now. (unless its the crane being used for the steel.)[/QUOTE]

Ember, Whatever they are doing, both cranes are working flat out with non stop lifts going up to the top.

I have a feeling that once the steel concrete interface is complete we will see considerable progress in height.

No it is tier 21. But as i said it depends how you interpret occupied.

Tier 22 starts at 700.9 meters, The wings are approx 200 sq. ft. each. The wings and center area are seperate areas. also the third wing is a terrace. So 2 200 sq. ft. wings and a center area the is also divided even more makes for some pretty small offices but possible I guess.

still a god size for a office at 700m, do u have other floor pplans for tier 22 and tier 21

both cranes are working flat out with non stop lifts going up to the top.

Transporting only the formwork down or is there also any traffic to the sky?

Eureka Tower is one of the first buildings int he world to have fire proof lift shafts. forget the stairs you can take the lifts!
btw, the Burj d is twice the width of Eureka at its lower floors.

although there are 3 suites in each wing that are at the "dead end" portion of the corridor, it also appears that the corridor walls are solid concrete which would yield atleast a 2hour fire rating. Also, each suite appears to have a smoke control vestibule at the entry. Therefore 2hour fire rating+smoke control vestibule+fully sprinklered+back-up water supply for sprinklers = adequate protection from a fire to justify a "defend in place" strategy (ie. stay in your suite during a fire unless instructed to vacate). Also, keep in mind that a residential corridor has very minimal fire loading such that it would be extremely rare that a fire can originate within the corridor itself and the travel distance from the furthest suite door to the exit stair appears to be about 10m. Most building authorities allow 25m travel distance.to a point where 2 directions for egress is reached. Finally, the Burj also employs the elevators for evacuation by fire fighters in what is referred to as "Lifeboat" mode. Cheers:cheers:

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main construction company,

Description: Design and build of a Tower 705m high comprising: Podium basement - 3 levels; Tower: 162 levels + Spire

^^ they haven't updated that info. cuz it's not going to be 705m, it will be 800m+, i promise u all that ;)

Dubai is the most incredible modern place of buildings in the world.

^^ they haven't updated that info. cuz it's not going to be 705m, it will be 800m+, i promise u all that ;)

Yeah it says it here:
http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/

800-950 Meters

I traveled flying last month towards europe from Dubai airport, I remember that I was seated window left wing, passed by Burj Dubai which honestly was really really close to the plane!! I know distances could be deceiving from a plane but I thought it was a very cool view.

Add another 250 meters to that! it might be a serious issue to worry about flying in Dubai skyline. Because to those who never been to Dubai, the airport is inside the city and ascending and descending has to be above the city somewhere.:)

burj dubai is real!:) and its the only project that actually works! well wait and see what happens.

they (middle east area) has taking profit for high oil price ....dont u think so...???

if that the case then it does not matter... im happy with it..

it is time for middle east to take next level...

USA build towers from economic,tourist
middle east from oil and a few orangansation

Can some admin ban this idiot from here pls. this is yucki.......

wtf

I like to be controversial every now and then but fucking hell thats off topic!! :ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

Are you sure that the width of BD is twice that of Eureka? cause i pass it everyday while travelling and it actually appears quite thin - even when viewing it relatively close. I'd imagine that the width of BD would be 3 times or maybe 4 times the width of Eureka. What do you say?

Eurekas east/west width is 53m up until about 200m, then it reduces to only 25m wide.Its south/west elevation is constant 53m wide. Burj D is 93m wide at base and gradually reduces in size to 64m wide @ 300m high.

Such useless discussion again... :ohno:

...BURJ DUBAI IS THE TOPIC...

Yeah. Shh.

come on guys, keep on topic. or the will be easily deleted.
bd doesnt look 3km from shore.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/2049430331_ee45e803a1_b.jpg

For the first time one of the top cranes has no lights on this evening. Will it be there in the morning?

^good question.
do you think BD will cause traffic accidents?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/2048387617_9c0e539ce2_b.jpg

^^^^

Cul: Its difficult not to look upwards to see what is happening, and I guess when the new interchange is in place at defence roundabout the cars will get a bit faster.

I saw an Aston Martin with a car up its backside a few days ago, but then again lipstick being applied was the main cause.

I guess though that most people who drive past the Burj get used to it.

I traveled flying last month towards europe from Dubai airport, I remember that I was seated window left wing, passed by Burj Dubai which honestly was really really close to the plane!! I know distances could be deceiving from a plane but I thought it was a very cool view.

Add another 250 meters to that! it might be a serious issue to worry about flying in Dubai skyline. Because to those who never been to Dubai, the airport is inside the city and ascending and descending has to be above the city somewhere.:)

I have been on the left side of a plane leaving Dubai also, it does come close, but not right over it, but i think they need to change the take-off paths of planes because it will get way too close in a year or so :nuts:

Why is this part angular and not round shaped?

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1162/burjkh1.jpg

Why is this part angular and not round shaped?



Look farther up the tower and you will see why it is that way. After the wings all get setback all the way, that angular section becomes the nose of a "new" wing. It's quite an elegant design, if you ask me.

Edit: Here is a nice picture that shows the transition:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1285/imresolt026ce2.jpg

do you think BD will cause traffic accidents?

Do you think BD will attract visitors from space? :lol:

Look farther up the tower and you will see why it is that way. After the wings all get setback all the way, that angular section becomes the nose of a "new" wing. It's quite an elegant design, if you ask me.

Edit: Here is a nice picture that shows the transition:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1285/imresolt026ce2.jpg
Ah, that explains it! :dance2:

-yes, the burj dubai takes on new shapes as it rises with its twists.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9734/newrendercr0.jpg

-yes, the burj dubai takes on new shapes as it rises with its twists.
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9734/newrendercr0.jpg
What an angle! I can't wait until it is a picture and not an animation! :cheers:

i found this!

http://www.joelertola.com/grfx/grfx_update_feb_05/tall_buildings.jpg

yeah seen that years ago., thats when burjD was 705m. thank god that version of freedom wasnt built

yeah seen that years ago., thats when burjD was 705m. thank god that version of freedom wasn't built
Hehe, I agree, so ugly! But the old design of Shanghai WFC was cool. But they changed it because the hole in it reminded to much of the Japanese flag, right?

^^ Yep and I also read it was cheeper to build a rectangular hole rather than a round one

^^ Yep and I also read it was cheeper to build a rectangular hole rather than a round one

That diagram of the buildings reminds me of how huge the world trade centre was, even next to the burj dubai. :nuts:

nice diagram. but its a bit old. :) wish there a latest diagram like that. :)

i found this!

http://www.joelertola.com/grfx/grfx_update_feb_05/tall_buildings.jpg

Omg if that freedom tower would have been build , I would act the same as the US government with the terrosist attack off 11th september.
I would not react on a clear terrorist threat , and just let it happen to get rid of that building.:)

I just browsed through my collection again...

Looking at this picture

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1284/2n9cjrdjh6.jpg

i cant help myself wishing there will be another shot from this angle again. I think there is no other perspective where everything looks so unbelievable extreme like this... And this has been a while now... should be much more impressive now.

I also like that this is the only perspective where you can understand the system of the setbacks....

Just awesome!!!

One of the cranes has been extended.

Just found some interesting pics on www.doka.com there was an article about completion of the core standing 601 meters high. Pics taken November 8. Steel can be seen on the first pic.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5740/45gr5.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9869/46bu8.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3462/47xb8.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/630/48se5.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4331/49ag8.jpg

^Wooow!! That would be scary, standing there!

The pipes, up to 2 meters in diameter, to be used for the vertical sections of the steel part, are already in Dubai the 3,000 tons of them. The cross sections and the jhorizontal beams will be comming in parts as per the progress of the structure. :cheers:

Great news. Hope the steel will go up fast:)

okay,156 floors of concrete.So the question is: How many steel floors will there be. Any estimates?

Very impressive pics! Cool!!

Finally some news from Dubai, hope they're going to start quick with the steel..

I just browsed through my collection again...

Looking at this picture

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1284/2n9cjrdjh6.jpg

i cant help myself wishing there will be another shot from this angle again. I think there is no other perspective where everything looks so unbelievable extreme like this... And this has been a while now... should be much more impressive now.

I also like that this is the only perspective where you can understand the system of the setbacks....

Just awesome!!!


yeahh this is my Desktop paperwall since July. Please some friend from Dubai could take that same picture updated?

how high is it now?

586m

586m
No, the poster says 601 mtrs on 8-11-07, right?

I must ask a stupid question. How do the workers come to the top and down? Are the elevators aren't installed inside yet?

No, the poster says 601 mtrs on 8-11-07, right?

it is 586m over ground. but 601m when you count the underground floors too ;)

I must ask a stupid question. How do the workers come to the top and down? Are the elevators aren't installed inside yet?

there are temporary elevators on the outside of the tower :). you can see them in much pics. just look at imres last pics a few pages before :)

there are temporary elevators on the outside of the tower :). you can see them in much pics. just look at imres last pics a few pages before :)
Ah, ok. I'll check them out. :)

yeahh this is my Desktop paperwall since July. Please some friend from Dubai could take that same picture updated?


Thats quite a difficult position to get to take photos :ohno:

No, the poster says 601 mtrs on 8-11-07, right?

urban kovac says now:
Burj Dubai construction progress:
Official floor count: 156
Official height: 585.7m

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1284/2n9cjrdjh6.jpg

scenery like from sci fi movies. awesome

The Burj shrouded in fog this AM....

http://i3.tinypic.com/82jkoqp.jpg

^^ Yep and I also read it was cheeper to build a rectangular hole rather than a round one

Offcourse. Whenever curtain wall sections are bent the price goes up by a lot! Because curtain wall sections (aluminium) comes in straight colums of 6m lenghts, its cheaper to build a rectangle.. But bending jacks the price up :)

Just found some interesting pics on www.doka.com there was an article about completion of the core standing 601 meters high. Pics taken November 8. Steel can be seen on the first pic.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3462/47xb8.jpg
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with doka quoting lev156 as 601m, do you think this means they are now going with height above slab as official height?? thus by adding the 16m below ground level,the 819m height will equate to 835m?
This is where they should take height from anyway. its where the actual building starts.

with doka quoting lev156 as 601m, do you think this means they are now going with height above slab as official height??

No, I don't think they are. The reason that doka is quoting this height is because that is what is significant to them. Their forms built a 601 meter structure. To them, there was no difference between below ground and above ground. I think that is why the picture explicitly states that 601 is the core wall height.

maybe,. you would think they would add the 3 extra floors which are below grd, so it says 159 instead of 156. you cant have 601m while quoting lev156. have one or the other.

Pretty impressing tower!

the first pic with rose rotana in the back is great !

Does anybody think they may still go for over 1000 meters or is that plan history?

Does anybody think they may still go for over 1000 meters or is that plan fake history?

Fixed it for ya. :cheers:

maybe,. you would think they would add the 3 extra floors which are below grd, so it says 159 instead of 156. you cant have 601m while quoting lev156. have one or the other.

Youre right, counting 156 floors you get 585.7 meters, including the basement you get 159 floors and 601 meters. But AFAIK underground floors don`t count into official height. So when completed, official height would be 819m, but the actual height would be 835 from top of the slab. Seems like doka has messed up here, combining the official floor count and absolute height. :nuts:

^yes.
sunshine- i think 800m+ is good enough. it would look out of proportion to add a 200m spire just to reach 1km.

I think they are right.... First you build the foundation... And on this they started to rise the walls. So what they say it's perfectly right.
And i dont think they should take the height from the foundation...
So if you build a coal mine under the building which is 1800 meters deep you have the tallest building when you put a 2 meter shelter on it?

Height is.. what you see when you stand infront of a building.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1284/2n9cjrdjh6.jpg

scenery like from sci fi movies. awesome

lol yes it's like the exterior of the starship's of star wars

Awesome Pics!

Burj Dubai looks like the quantum black hole cannon in my backyard :eek:

is there a thread on mall? next to Burj Dubai

Hi all.

Nice find Urban. Yes Doka doesn't update very often but they have some nice ones when they do. I check almost daily to thier site as part of my rounds.

Here is some more from Doka - some goodies ...

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/36399/2005616849177439024_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005616849177439024)

http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/33264/2005629462347335735_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005629462347335735)

http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/33788/2005647649687879278_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005647649687879278)

http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/34134/2005673376390801719_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005673376390801719)

http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/34134/2005632992350332867_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005632992350332867)

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/36526/2005648587955800464_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005648587955800464)

http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/35032/2005622152140116724_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005622152140116724)

http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/36144/2005663717796469168_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005663717796469168)

Pics are from mid October

Enjoy. :cheers:

i am trying to imagine what we are able to see when a photographer takes a picture from the same angle and position like on the first picture in 10-15 years.

Very nice pictures. I wouldn't be able to picture in my head how it will look in 10-15 years time as there is so much going on. What I do no though is that it'll look amazing.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/1897012328_6b08d6b9b1_o.jpg

nice photos,Fury.:eek2:

:nuts: beautiful pics!! tks!! :nuts:

will post more pics later

22/November/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2903/imresolt11vp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2913/imresolt64wt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4033/imresolt69ry7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8403/imresolt38qw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Excellant pics Imre, so we will be able to see a step by sep construction of the steelwork going up.

You can actually see the angle where the cross members will be located where the un-prepared (rusted) part on the corner stiffeners.

I thought the steal work had started??

22/November/2007

Burj Dubai from the Signature Towers (ex. Dancing Towers) plot


http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/412/imresolt40lb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana:, fantastic...formwork is as good as removed!

Steal work didn't start, but steel work did !
If you take a look at the first Doka ceremonu pictures, you see one steel base of the steel structure (on the corner of the tower). Plus you see these shapes all round the top of the concrete structure on Master Imre's pictures...

Yeah. :banana:

Krys

22/November/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6050/imresolt86ud2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1/imresolt10mg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4659/imresolt57zv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


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http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1483/imresolt32ie0.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt32ie0.jpg)http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9418/imresolt34kl6.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt34kl6.jpg)http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7706/imresolt36kc2.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt36kc2.jpg)http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6810/imresolt39tg0.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt39tg0.jpg)http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/550/imresolt42ug5.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt42ug5.jpg)http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9752/imresolt44ib9.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt44ib9.jpg)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/403/imresolt47qf7.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt47qf7.jpg)http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6456/imresolt49vo0.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt49vo0.jpg)http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1709/imresolt51wm5.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt51wm5.jpg)http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2220/imresolt55wj6.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt55wj6.jpg)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6885/imresolt59bg3.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt59bg3.jpg)http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8861/imresolt66wr1.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt66wr1.jpg)http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2075/imresolt75wg4.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt75wg4.jpg)http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4793/imresolt77yv0.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt77yv0.jpg)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9303/imresolt80cw8.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt80cw8.jpg)http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7879/imresolt82os4.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt82os4.jpg)http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3668/imresolt88aa7.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt88aa7.jpg)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3318/imresolt89ar2.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt89ar2.jpg)http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9164/imresolt90jj4.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt90jj4.jpg)


Dubai Metro , front of the Burj Dubai

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5723/imresolt16ys3.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt16ys3.jpg)http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3866/imresolt17pg2.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt17pg2.jpg)

interior staff arrived

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3888/imresolt22xf1.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt22xf1.jpg)http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1179/imresolt23ni8.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt23ni8.jpg)http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7154/imresolt24bs1.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt24bs1.jpg)

the growing steel is visible !! :banana: great, thx for your effort imre. :okay:

wow, she's topless! :banana:

the growing steel is visible !! :banana: great, thx for your effort imre. :okay:

isn´t it just some stuff for interior work? witch must be on a big scale by now in facade covered sections. Looks aluminuish and thin, can´t be that they start steelwork with toothpicks:nuts:
show me some serious chunks of steel fitting to the magnitude of this project:rock:

shoutout to imre :cheers:

^^ The steel pipes to be used there are 2 meters in diameter ... so rest assurre that will not be missed if there. :D

thanks for the updates!

isn´t it just some stuff for interior work? witch must be on a big scale by now in facade covered sections. Looks aluminuish and thin, can´t be that they start steelwork with toothpicks:nuts:
show me some serious chunks of steel fitting to the magnitude of this project:rock:

shoutout to imre :cheers:

I thought that staff for the roof section but not because DEPA is the interior sub contractor of the Burj Dubai.

:uh: :eek2: it cant get in my head how enourmos this structure already is:bash::bash::bash:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9164/imresolt90jj4.jpg

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts: try to imagine that it will rise another minimum 232m.

Wow great pics end this project runs like hell:nocrook:.

Soon they will start the steelwork on top of the concrete, i expect in some weeks but i im sure at the end of this year they will be at 1/3 of the steelsection, i think:banana:.

Do we know anything about BDs lighting at night?

Wow, the Burj looks stranger without the formwork... :nuts:

Fantastic job :applause:
Its monsterous!

lolll

http://i10.tinypic.com/6ss34g0.jpg

lolll

http://i10.tinypic.com/6ss34g0.jpg

wth?
why you lolll?
lol is a fuckn stupid word...lolll is fckn more stupid!
nuttin strange in that pic! :D

LOL because the Burj without any reference point looks smaller...

its hard to scale it against anything else around it.

bruj dubai topped out around oct26, so its been there nearly a month. time to add steel.
ta for pix imre

omg!!!!!! that's just amazing, it looks really tall. this will be a world icon for a lot of years.

http://i17.tinypic.com/63vfrk5.jpg
From Flikr

Looks Photoshopped...wow

will post more pics later

22/November/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2903/imresolt11vp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2913/imresolt64wt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

well there doens seem to be a setback there, like OTR said there would be once the frame work would come off ??????

Looking through this forum, I've heard a few times how some people find the Burj to be too skinny on top. Does anyone have a comparison to illustrate the thickness with other supertalls?

Granted, it's going to look skinny on top when it's complete, but that's mostly due to the sheer magnitude of the total structure, especially when viewed from afar.

WOW what a monster..

It's a nice change to see the Burj without the formwork, it gives a slightly more representative impression of what the tower will look like upon completion. Without all those bulky forms and scaffolding bulging off the top of the concrete part of the structure the straight lines of the core are easier to distinguish from bottom to top. It looks more graceful now than before, to me anyway.

can someone pls post a pic from the beginnig of january 07 to compare the progress?

helghast. theres no setback above lev155 because it hasnt been built yet. as soon as steel framing starts up you will see new setback.

brainic-it does start to get thin at 586m but you cant compare to other talls beacuse theres no other skyscraper within 100m of its height.
at 450m high BurjD is about 45m wide, which is approx width of the massive sears towers top.

can someone pls post a pic from the beginnig of january 07 to compare the progress?

See:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=11144058&postcount=239

January 3rd 2007

Hey Helghast.

The setback is going to be on the side you can,t see in those shots. also it still has the formwork on it. The setback will face approx. 60 degrees and the Dubai mall. The setback is after the levels that are poured now. It will show after the steel begins to rise as I and others have said before.
This screenshot from the Burj Presentation shows it best.

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/35759/2002813047459041747_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002813047459041747)

You seem to be quick to try to prove people wrong. While I too hope they change the plan to the taller I don't think they will now with all the plan changes they've made already. Never know though - we will have to wait and see.

Be patient - all will be revealed soon.

:cheers:

LOL - beat me to the punch Cul.
This is such a cool time in the construction of this structure. Now we can see the steel anchor points. The next few days and weeks will be great to see. Hell who's kidding who - the whole thing has been and will be great to watch. With all the great photogs and the net it is like we are all there. Awesome.

brainiac-the current width of the core is aprox 17m. and will get only a metre wider when concrete foors are added

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4180/burjdubaielevationbestnhg7.jpg

Well, looks like we now know where this is gonna come from:


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5338/83294517nm3.jpg


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1880/21349862xk1.jpg


I assume we'll soon see them removing the crane sections beneath the brace. Pretty ingenious if you ask me.

(But then again, it doesn't take a whole lot to impress this guy. :lol: )

looking good and progressing nicely, can't wait to see it finnished:cheers:

another PS

http://i7.tinypic.com/7yfqf5w.jpg

will they use one of those 2 cranes as the steelcrane, or is this a different one?

will they use one of those 2 cranes as the steelcrane, or is this a different one?

I beleive it will be a differnet one

Its huge and theyre gonna build even bigger which is crazy

Yes, the attachment to the core looks similar, FTL Beach Bum. But the existing one you show is at about level 153, whereas the attachment for the new crane should be at level 155mez, according to the render. So I'd think that the crane for the top should be fixed to the third face, so that the cranes don't stand in the way of each other during dismantling/raising. Probably all three cranes could work seperately then for a short time.

Still I don't get how the new crane can carry tons of steel, being only vertically attached. Will there be deep holes in the concrete for this, or do some bolts the job sufficiently?

It appears to me, that, in contrast, the existing cranes always stand on top of a tier wing below or continue downwards, so that their attachments only stabilize the crane.
^^
edit: I just saw construction pics of the Guangzhou TV Tower, where the 2 huge cranes stand on small temporary platforms, which are connected to the core, alike the new crane will be. So as has been prove, a crane can be fixed like that. Maybe it's the same for the recent BD cranes... it's difficult to tell from the pics, because there are almost no detailled downviews on Burj Dubai, or the base of the crane is hidden by scaffolding or nets. On Culwulla's diagrams, the cranes don't continue inside the building all the way down, and this would also disturb the completion process of the lower floors. But I have no idea how the cranes have climbed up the core all the time then. :) ...Can somebody tell me about it?

has the concrete finished now , when will the steel work start.

Wow I can´t believe, it's Really tall.

has the concrete finished now , when will the steel work start.

the whole concrete work isn't done yet. steel work should start in in max 1 week i think

I am interested if they will wait for all concrete to be completed before continuing with steel. Its not necessary as crane is mounted to the core wall and not to winglets. Also the last uncompleted tier doesnt have effect on what is going on top. Cant wait to see:cheers:

hm.......i wonder how they will introduce the steel pilons into the building...it will be very interesting...Let's hope that in 1 week the will start introducing the steel.. :uh:

Why would they remove the frame before inserting the steel? Isn't the frame there for safety?

they already inserted the steel as shown in imre's last pics and the removed the formwork because that is used for pouring the concrete, they will only need scafolding for the steel

how big will the steel sections be ? will they be in 20,30,40foot lengths, i would like to know.

Some great pictures from flickr:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2392/205461616549bbada78abep9.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=205461616549bbada78abep9.jpg)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1553/20546154673784a4a117bwg3.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20546154673784a4a117bwg3.jpg)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1653/2054613581cdda1618a1brr7.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2054613581cdda1618a1brr7.jpg)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4609/2055400410fa53b4bd2cbbr9.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2055400410fa53b4bd2cbbr9.jpg)

this is THe FIRST TIMe I See the Burj Without THe FRAMe WORKS... FROM DOKAAAAAAAAAAA OH GOD BUT ..? when will they start the work with the steal ??????????,

how big will the steel sections be ? will they be in 20,30,40foot lengths, i would like to know.

I know that they are 2 meters in diameter. Will ask for the length ... ;)

this is THe FIRST TIMe I See the Burj Without THe FRAMe WORKS...

:lol:, of course it is. because it is the first time the Burj Dubai is without formwork ^^

Some great pictures from flickr:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2392/205461616549bbada78abep9.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=205461616549bbada78abep9.jpg)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1553/20546154673784a4a117bwg3.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20546154673784a4a117bwg3.jpg)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1653/2054613581cdda1618a1brr7.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2054613581cdda1618a1brr7.jpg)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4609/2055400410fa53b4bd2cbbr9.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2055400410fa53b4bd2cbbr9.jpg)

AWESOME PIC !!!!!! :cheers:

I know that they are 2 meters in diameter. Will ask for the length ... ;)
At 2 meters diameter I would say that they are at least 10m long. It would look strange for so wide pipe to be shorter:)

Guys, concrete works on 5th mechanical floor will last for a weeks!
So I'm not sure when would steel work start...

think they'll start before the wing is ready

love the fog pictures. best pics so far.

There is an interesting article on Burj Dubai in the British civil engineering magazine New Civil Engineer. It says that the drawings hanging up in site offices during their tour last week show the final height of the tower as 808m.

The in-situ concreting works on the structural core were completed last week at a height of 601m, making it already the tallest building on the planet. (The present tallest man-made structure is the KVLY/KTHI television mast in North Dakota, USA, which is a guyed mast with a height of 628.8m.)

One of the main problems on site has been the massive variation in temperature between day and night, which coupled with having a desert climate next to the sea has resulted in violent sandstorms with wind speeds of over 100kph.

Apparently, despite the poor working conditions the mainly migrant labour force have had to endure, the safety record has been really good with only three lost time injuries in the 29.3 million manhours worked to date.

The main design problem was the need to strengthen some of the lower floors which had been designed as prestressed concrete but constructed as reinforced concrete. This was done using carbon fibre reinforcement and steel I-beams on floors five to fifteen. (This news leaked out to the press, Emaar denied at the time that there were any strength issues).

Progress on cladding has been really good considering that the original cladding contractor Schmidlin went bust at the start of the contract. Thirteen months was lost before Far East Aluminium was signed up but they have succeeded in getting back on track. The cladding is manufactured in China and comes in pieces to be assembled on site with local glass. In total, 100 panels a day are being made in the factory, assembled and installed on site. The panels are fixed using 25,000 Halfen cast-in fixings and slot together without any need for extra sealant.

As the building is curved, cladding tolerances are critical as there is no opportunity to make up tolerances at the corners.

Cladding is a major critical path activity as, only when it has been installed can the space be air-conditioned and work commence on the internal fit-out.

The building has been designed to evacuate 35,000 people (more than twice its expected occupancy). Evacuation is down stairs and as it is a long walk down from the 160th floor, pressurised air-conditioned refuges are installed every 25 floors for evacuees to rest or await rescue. US fire containment standards are being used with special firestops to plug the gaps between floor slabs and cladding to prevent fires from leaping from one floor to the next.

WOW, thats all I can say, that thing is fuc*ing tall! lol.

pic from the 156th floor:

http://i19.tinypic.com/6nshdnl.jpg

breathtaking picture ZZ thx for sharing with us.....

I wonder if that mad french guy will ever try to climb burj dubai

I'm sure that he will climb BD when its ready......if he would know....of BD.

Good article Martin S .. thanks for posting.

pic from the 156th floor:

http://i19.tinypic.com/6nshdnl.jpg

amazing!

Some images taken from around the same spot since May this year until yesterday, showing progress of the top level wings.

24th May 2007
http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/33600/2003702901271565030_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003702901271565030)

27th July 2007
http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/36288/2003726312461835894_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003726312461835894)

10th August 2007
http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/34492/2000842885242908856_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000842885242908856)

14th September 2007
http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/35126/2003706674759631535_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003706674759631535)

21st September 2007
http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/35206/2003794854616027712_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003794854616027712)

28th September 2007
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/34851/2003744343678115582_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003744343678115582)

5th October 2007
http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/35640/2003732157158655836_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003732157158655836)

12th October 2007
http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/33942/2003751459634179398_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003751459634179398)

19th October 2007
http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/35085/2003786988618487390_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003786988618487390)

26th October 2007
http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/36208/2003724717529772785_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003724717529772785)

2nd November 2007
http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/34328/2003702379979856980_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003702379979856980)

9th November 2007
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/32555/2000836118751963722_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000836118751963722)
16th November 2007
http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/33720/2000827930227275719_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000827930227275719)

23rd November 2007
http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/35499/2000863683271122160_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000863683271122160)

nervous pic from up there, must have held the camera very tight, will the lake cover a bigger area when it is finished. thanks for the info on the steel sections sizes.

I'm sure that he will climb BD when its ready......if he would know....of BD.

He has climbed 2 - 3 buildings in United Arab Emirates (Abu Dhabi) so of course he would know about BD.

...will the lake cover a bigger area when it is finished...

The lake will cover the entire area in the pic that looks like it's a concrete pavement.

Pictures taken a week ago on Nov 17th:

It was a very foggy day but I was able to edit and make them (at least a few) presentable:


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/411/bd2lu3.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/60/bd6uq6.jpg


http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8731/bd1cd2.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd1cd2.jpg) http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3185/bd3ay6.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd3ay6.jpg) http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5722/bd4cn9.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd4cn9.jpg) http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2738/bd5fu6.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bd5fu6.jpg)

They finished off Tier 11's concrete pretty quickly. hopefully the same will be said for Tier 12's =)

has there been any steel at the site yet

I think there is^^

no, unfortunately not

pic from the 156th floor:

http://i19.tinypic.com/6nshdnl.jpg

That view looking directly down on the city below must be awesome. Even very tall buildings, say 80 or more storeys, will look tiny. The tower is so high that I expect people living in the penthouse apartments will need to ring downstairs to find out what the weather is like.

Thanks AltinD

http://i4.tinypic.com/6t3sl6e.jpg

Lean back and let it sink in!

http://i13.tinypic.com/72rw574.jpg

Hi all.

Thanx OTR - Nice shots. All fresh from my perspective.

Thanx you too Altin.

:cheers:

Thanks AltinD

http://i4.tinypic.com/6t3sl6e.jpg

Lean back and let it sink in!

http://i13.tinypic.com/72rw574.jpg

Wrong! You doubled mechanical floors cladding! :bash:

^^ You quoted both pictures just to say that? Its not big deal, Chill out buddy.:ohno:

@Croat: Good call. I didn't notice that. ...It actually looks better this way.

Fixed it for you. :)

From official rendering, by pure chance I had it exactly double (20) :lol: My memory must be out.
http://i13.tinypic.com/8epwft2.jpg

EDIT: Oh brother. Just realised you were not talking about the "stripes" about about the amount of floors! oops! I will fix again!

EDIT 2: ok, this is my final try! There is not enough strips but I'm fine with it. It looks much more smooth and polished when fully clad. enjoy :cheers:
http://i5.tinypic.com/6jq1u81.jpg

WOW great Job!

@Croat: Good call. I didn't notice that. ...It actually looks better this way.

I agree!

P.S. Sorry mate, some Israeli moron ban my old profile. :ohno:

P.S. Sorry mate, some Israeli moron ban my old profile. :ohno:

what?

Awesome,have to go there.:cheers:

Stunning images! carnt wait to see it finish!
when's the official launch date???????????????????
and finish date?

www.2012olympichost.com

Awesome editing...! Looks terrific

I like the doubled mechanical cladding a lot more than the regular one... :yes:

I agree!

P.S. Sorry mate, some Israeli moron ban my old profile. :ohno:

You're likely to get banned again with that attitude.

The one end of the mall with the round roof, it looks like like somebody dropped their CD!!

You're likely to get banned again with that attitude.True. you've got to respect the Israelis even if they commit abuses. Otherwise you're an antisemite and can be banned for life.

Look up "Iranian Quds Forces" in Wiki... that's all you need to know to make a opinion about that guy...

GREAT BUILDING! It's going fast!!!:banana:

:redx:
jews, arabs, falun-gong or simply californians, who cares, has nothing to do with the spectacular time in history of architecture that the burjdubai represents and is completely irrellivent to the steel frenzy we are about to go into
no hard feelings though!

Just wanted to ask if someone possessed of some plans of the steel part besides one taken from the Samsung video. I am so hyped out about the fact that we are in the beginning of the steel "era" and would be deeply thankfull and happy if someone had something for me to post here, even if it is out dated or just a rough plan, I wanna see the the way of thinking on this scale:cheer::rock:

thanx in advance (name no names:okay:)

Took some updates today but forgot the camera in the car and I'm feeling to lazzy to go down in the basement and take it. :fiddle:

come on, please take it :)

Yeah AltinD, have a walk:)

I don't know altin, but considering the contribution he is making on this forum I'd say he could use the walk... ;)

The tower is so high that I expect people living in the penthouse apartments will need to ring downstairs to find out what the weather is like.

And the answer will be 'HOT'.

I must admit that this is a huge tower and big development, but honestly I don't see the significance of this tower or any tower in Dubai. The city is basically a desert that wants attention, so it uses oil money to build large towers that, in my opinion, will basically be fairly empty most of the time. Burj Dubai doesn't show economic growth the way some towers such as WFC in Shanghai or Freedom Tower in New York. I just don't get why people are so hyped about a really tall piece of glass which has, really, no meaning.

^^ Thank you for your opinion, now you can go in the waterfront, take a look up at the back and remember the old times when it had some meanings.

Yeah AltinD, have a walk:)

I don't know altin, but considering the contribution he is making on this forum I'd say he could use the walk... ;)

Yes, the lift who will send me to the parking in the basement, is some 20 - 30 meters from my door, and going to the car down there it will be less then 10 meters more. :D

BTW it is 1:06 AM in the morning overhere.

wow
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4609/2055400410fa53b4bd2cbbr9.jpg

Awesome!

^^

That is a very beautiful picture

that pic is tranquile.