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moscowboy
November 19th, 2009, 01:15 AM
http://i50.tinypic.com/2r6yvmh.jpg

Beautiful picture.
In this picture, I assume sea is on the left side.
The water surrounding the BD is the Dubai creek?
The right side is the desert (which is North of the sea shore)?
Which way is the rest of the city?

Dark Matter
November 19th, 2009, 01:29 AM
Yes, the sea is to the left (facing North West)

Yes, that is the Dubai Creek extension.

The desert/blank area you are looking at is south of Dubai City.

The rest of the city is to the left (but not extended to the sea obviously).

If you look at a satellite picture, you will see where what I mean.

Swiddle
November 19th, 2009, 02:12 AM
ALSO - add me to the list of folks that are interested in just how they are energizing the BMUs when they are hanging out on those curvy pipes.

Land

This mystery has already been solved:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46183051&postcount=21862
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46183399&postcount=21863

See page 13 of this document:

http://www.conductix.com/public/docs/CX/Manual_and_Spring_Reels_CONDUCTIC_20061113_110447.pdf

moscowboy
November 19th, 2009, 02:21 AM
This mystery has already been solved:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46183051&postcount=21862
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46183399&postcount=21863

See page 13 of this document:

http://www.conductix.com/public/docs/CX/Manual_and_Spring_Reels_CONDUCTIC_20061113_110447.pdf

I believe the power will come from the metal curvy rails on which it is riding.
If it receive power solely from a green power chord on a reel, then, Suppose the line is cut while the BMU is half way across the building, then the BMU and its bucket with a man will just hang there for ever?
Come on man. The BMU should have battery and generator in it as secondary power sources.
You don't depend on a green line on a spool when you are 800 meters up in the sky.

antovador
November 19th, 2009, 02:34 AM
Where is an official source with this height?

Hi see post 21941 and compare with the Fury's plans.

Old Town Resident
November 19th, 2009, 06:02 AM
maybe already posted, sorry

oWVLzVhnYE0


Change thread title to 824.6 plus 1.2 = 825.8 for when the spire opening at the top is opened!

1.2m being the spire diameter at this location. I have not counted the hinges.

Closing in on the magical 888 number rapidly.

Assemblage23
November 19th, 2009, 06:03 AM
Surely they would not start a multi million Dollar project without knowing the criteria.

Decisions like this were not just taken on a whim and would have been long term intentions by the board.

Anyway I still plug for his favourite number:cheers:

And what is his favourite number for those of us who don't know.

Old Town Resident
November 19th, 2009, 06:04 AM
And what is his favourite number for those of us who don't know.


^^^^^^^^^^

Stephan23
November 19th, 2009, 09:57 AM
Hi see post 21941 and compare with the Fury's plans.

Ok, but I need an official source (newspaper etc.) to change the height on emporis...

AltinD
November 19th, 2009, 10:11 AM
The rest of the city is to the left (but not extended to the sea obviously)..

HUH? :weird:

Old Town Resident
November 19th, 2009, 10:44 AM
Ok, but I need an official source (newspaper etc.) to change the height on emporis...


When would a newspaper ever become an official source?

Everthing up to when Emaar make the announcement which I assume will be January 4th 2010 everything else will be speculative and nothing more.

Stephan23
November 19th, 2009, 11:06 AM
Change back to 819m

Burj Dubai not affected by new criteria

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZAWYA20091119040733/Burj%20Dubai%20not%20affected%20by%20new%20criteria

Stephan23
November 19th, 2009, 11:07 AM
When would a newspaper ever become an official source?

Everthing up to when Emaar make the announcement which I assume will be January 4th 2010 everything else will be speculative and nothing more.

Never, but they need a source ...

Imre
November 19th, 2009, 12:40 PM
19/November/2009

Burj Dubai from the Dubai Festival City

http://i49.tinypic.com/35bryna.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2ltswee.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/152ztb9.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2q88pi1.jpg

Imre
November 19th, 2009, 12:46 PM
Teddys on holiday thats why just camels now:)

19/November/2009

Burj Dubai from Dubailand

http://i46.tinypic.com/2h6cytg.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2whfgvs.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2m49i86.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/5wilo3.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2me1un6.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2643ku8.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2rzq3dd.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/o729vt.jpg

pentimo
November 19th, 2009, 01:13 PM
http://360dubaimap.com

http://pentimo.com/dubai/property/rent/buy/sell/burjdubaielol.jpg

234sale
November 19th, 2009, 01:54 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/uofep.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1918/cimg8556panorama.th.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/cimg8556panorama.jpg/)
From 15.5KM away, well trunk of the palm

Level of detail in above pano
http://i47.tinypic.com/6yjwpl.jpg

234sale
November 19th, 2009, 01:59 PM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5927/cimg8491panoramaa.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/cimg8491panoramaa.jpg/)
http://i46.tinypic.com/2hzod8o.jpg

Imre
November 19th, 2009, 03:21 PM
19/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i47.tinypic.com/11hcxao.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/206yb1t.jpg

Swiddle
November 19th, 2009, 04:06 PM
I believe the power will come from the metal curvy rails on which it is riding.
If it receive power solely from a green power chord on a reel, then, Suppose the line is cut while the BMU is half way across the building, then the BMU and its bucket with a man will just hang there for ever?
Come on man. The BMU should have battery and generator in it as secondary power sources.
You don't depend on a green line on a spool when you are 800 meters up in the sky.

You're right, we don't know that the reel system is the only power source. I speculated a while back that each BMU might use the "third rail" system like electric trains, and it is still possible that that is the primary power source with the green cord only being a backup source (in case the third rail shorts out or such). It is also possible that the cord is the primary source while a rail can be electrified should the cord get cut. Regardless of whether the power source is an electrified rail and/or power cord, it definitely makes sense to have on-board battery backup power. An on-board generator may be overkill, though an off-board generator sounds like a very good idea in case the building were to lose power.

My guess (just a hunch), having seen the the reel, is that there is no third-rail system. Such a system requires that the rail be electrically insulated from the building and precautions taken so that no worker could ever touch it while it's live. The cord seems like a much simpler and less expensive solution when combined with just enough battery power to reel in the basket and scoot back over to the BMU cave. :)

Tibs
November 19th, 2009, 04:17 PM
All being well, I should be moving to Oman in about a month or less...I'll definately be getting to Dubai asap to check this monster out in the flesh - and try and find ways to get tickets to the launch event :D

Great job on the updates and photos.

korea2002
November 19th, 2009, 05:00 PM
did you read this news?
2008.5.30 press released.
have you ever heard of Twin Burj Dubai's Construction? this is fact in 2008,not Rumor.
If you want to give Exact Information about this amazing project,contact Emmar(Dubai) or Samsung Dubai Office.

below....I think Imre or 234sale,AtinD knew this news or read this article in 2008...

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1565/20080529085239865011.jpg

Twins ' The [pe] the [cu] two at all Samsung product construction Samsung product constructive section Arab Emirates (UAE) two at all ' The [pe] [cu] two at all ' Makes the twins building. The [pe] [cu] two [pe] [cu] two at all in the side which hits at all and a thing where the rough copy layer building where the height * shape etc. are identical enters is. The 29th constructive industry [ey_tta_lu_myen] two [pe] [cu] two which at all an independent space-time in Samsung product constructive section the forehead [lu] which is a government-managed development enterprise (Emaar) lives made a twins building erecting plan at all and requested. The [pe] [cu] two the desert flower at the form one building is highest at all from the world. The 160th floor which is a last March 25th last layer (623m) public corporation ends and currently the spire (above of building height inclusion highest 800m) the construction which builds is advanced above the building. Enforcement the forehead [lu] company, space-time Samsung product constructive section * hemp cloth [su] (Belgium) * Arab [theyk] (two) 3 companies kept at all. Forehead [lu] [pe] [cu] two which lives is satisfied, became known that proposes the independent spatial-temporal contract of the [pe] [cu] two at all twins building in Samsung product Ministry of Construction meaning of a passage rough copy layer spatial-temporal technique which public corporation leads at all successfully and management style etc. The [pe] [cu] two the total public corporation rain of the twins building comes [pe] [cu] two (about 1,000,000,000,000 won) at all at all similar 1,100,000,000,000 ~ 1,200,000,000,000 won lines is. The forehead [lu] buying Samsung product constructive section year-end about [pe] [cu] two which comes is the plan which the memorandom of under-standing: MOU (MOU) will contract at all about twins building space-time. The very first time ocean company a time at the year-end when is come the [pe] [cu] two at all interior public corporation which is a plan which will contract next month MOU and landscape architecture public corporation etc. is finished extended. The industry one persons concerned " Samsung product from Middle East entire area [pe] [cu] two at all severely thinks a spatial-temporal effect " " The development companies which prepare a rough copy layer building erecting continue and " where they request a space-time and a technical investigation at Samsung; Said.

in korean-Original Article.
'쌍둥이'버즈두바이 삼성물산이 건설

삼성물산 건설부문이 아랍에미리트(UAE) 두바이에 '버즈두바이' 쌍둥이 빌딩을 짓는다. 버즈두바이 맞은 편에 버즈두바이와 높이·모양 등이 똑같은 초고층 건물이 들어서는 것이다.

29일 건설업계에 따르면 두바이 국영개발업체인 이마르(Emaar)사는 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩 건립 계획을 세우고 삼성물산 건설부문에 단독 시공을 요청했다.

버즈두바이는 사막꽃을 형상화한 건축물로 세계에서 가장 높다. 지난 3월 25일 마지막층인 160층(623m) 공사가 끝나 현재는 건물 위에 첨탑(건물 높이 포함 최고 800m 이상)을 세우는 공사가 진행되고 있다. 시행은 이마르사, 시공은 삼성물산 건설부문·베식스(벨기에)·아랍텍(두바이) 3개사가 맡았다.

이마르사는 버즈두바이 공사를 성공적으로 이끈 삼성물산 건설부문의 초고층 시공 기술과 관리 방식 등에 만족, 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩의 단독 시공 계약을 제안한 것으로 알려졌다.

버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩의 총 공사비는 버즈두바이(약 1조원)와 비슷한 1조1000억∼1조2000억원선이다.

이마르사와 삼성물산 건설부문은 오는 연말쯤 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩 시공에 대한 양해각서(MOU)를 체결할 계획이다. 당초 양사는 다음달 MOU를 체결할 예정이었으나 버즈두바이 실내공사와 조경공사 등이 마무리되는 올 연말로 시기를 늦췄다.

업계 한 관계자는 "삼성물산이 중동 전역에서 버즈두바이 시공 효과를 톡톡히 보고 있다"며 "초고층 빌딩 건립을 준비하고 있는 개발회사들이 잇따라 삼성에 시공 및 기술 검토을 의뢰하고 있다"고 말했다.

korea2002
November 19th, 2009, 05:02 PM
did you read this news?
2008.5.30 press released.
have you ever heard of Twin Burj Dubai's Construction? this is fact in 2008,not Rumor.
If you want to give Exact Information about this amazing project,contact Emmar(Dubai) or Samsung Dubai Office.

below....I think Imre or 234sale,AtinD knew this news or read this article in 2008...

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1565/20080529085239865011.jpg

Twins ' The [pe] the [cu] two at all Samsung product construction Samsung product constructive section Arab Emirates (UAE) two at all ' The [pe] [cu] two at all ' Makes the twins building. The [pe] [cu] two [pe] [cu] two at all in the side which hits at all and a thing where the rough copy layer building where the height * shape etc. are identical enters is. The 29th constructive industry [ey_tta_lu_myen] two [pe] [cu] two which at all an independent space-time in Samsung product constructive section the forehead [lu] which is a government-managed development enterprise (Emaar) lives made a twins building erecting plan at all and requested. The [pe] [cu] two the desert flower at the form one building is highest at all from the world. The 160th floor which is a last March 25th last layer (623m) public corporation ends and currently the spire (above of building height inclusion highest 800m) the construction which builds is advanced above the building. Enforcement the forehead [lu] company, space-time Samsung product constructive section * hemp cloth [su] (Belgium) * Arab [theyk] (two) 3 companies kept at all. Forehead [lu] [pe] [cu] two which lives is satisfied, became known that proposes the independent spatial-temporal contract of the [pe] [cu] two at all twins building in Samsung product Ministry of Construction meaning of a passage rough copy layer spatial-temporal technique which public corporation leads at all successfully and management style etc. The [pe] [cu] two the total public corporation rain of the twins building comes [pe] [cu] two (about 1,000,000,000,000 won) at all at all similar 1,100,000,000,000 ~ 1,200,000,000,000 won lines is. The forehead [lu] buying Samsung product constructive section year-end about [pe] [cu] two which comes is the plan which the memorandom of under-standing: MOU (MOU) will contract at all about twins building space-time. The very first time ocean company a time at the year-end when is come the [pe] [cu] two at all interior public corporation which is a plan which will contract next month MOU and landscape architecture public corporation etc. is finished extended. The industry one persons concerned " Samsung product from Middle East entire area [pe] [cu] two at all severely thinks a spatial-temporal effect " " The development companies which prepare a rough copy layer building erecting continue and " where they request a space-time and a technical investigation at Samsung; Said.

in korean-Original Article.
'쌍둥이'버즈두바이 삼성물산이 건설

삼성물산 건설부문이 아랍에미리트(UAE) 두바이에 '버즈두바이' 쌍둥이 빌딩을 짓는다. 버즈두바이 맞은 편에 버즈두바이와 높이·모양 등이 똑같은 초고층 건물이 들어서는 것이다.

29일 건설업계에 따르면 두바이 국영개발업체인 이마르(Emaar)사는 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩 건립 계획을 세우고 삼성물산 건설부문에 단독 시공을 요청했다.

버즈두바이는 사막꽃을 형상화한 건축물로 세계에서 가장 높다. 지난 3월 25일 마지막층인 160층(623m) 공사가 끝나 현재는 건물 위에 첨탑(건물 높이 포함 최고 800m 이상)을 세우는 공사가 진행되고 있다. 시행은 이마르사, 시공은 삼성물산 건설부문·베식스(벨기에)·아랍텍(두바이) 3개사가 맡았다.

이마르사는 버즈두바이 공사를 성공적으로 이끈 삼성물산 건설부문의 초고층 시공 기술과 관리 방식 등에 만족, 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩의 단독 시공 계약을 제안한 것으로 알려졌다.

버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩의 총 공사비는 버즈두바이(약 1조원)와 비슷한 1조1000억∼1조2000억원선이다.

이마르사와 삼성물산 건설부문은 오는 연말쯤 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩 시공에 대한 양해각서(MOU)를 체결할 계획이다. 당초 양사는 다음달 MOU를 체결할 예정이었으나 버즈두바이 실내공사와 조경공사 등이 마무리되는 올 연말로 시기를 늦췄다.

업계 한 관계자는 "삼성물산이 중동 전역에서 버즈두바이 시공 효과를 톡톡히 보고 있다"며 "초고층 빌딩 건립을 준비하고 있는 개발회사들이 잇따라 삼성에 시공 및 기술 검토을 의뢰하고 있다"고 말했다.

I think this news is fact,but Emmar will decide Contractor into Samsung again,Samsung will build One more Burj Dubai's Construction..Ctrl+V~~~

Swiddle
November 19th, 2009, 05:22 PM
^^Can someone translate this translation? Trying to decipher it gives me a headache. :nuts: "Space-time"? Are they trying to add warp drive to the Burj? :lol:

korea2002
November 19th, 2009, 06:06 PM
^^Can someone translate this translation? Trying to decipher it gives me a headache. :nuts: "Space-time"? Are they trying to add warp drive to the Burj? :lol:

sorry. I don't speak English well.you understand me..
this translator is altavista...
maybe.. this translator made you so dizzy.but,I can't interpret All Article in english...
So.I want to say only Summary about this secret fact...
Emmar plan more Same Burj Dubai Building's Construction in 2008.
So,Emmar decided Contractor to Samsung.because Samsung perform Burj Dubai's Construction.Emmar believe this Company..
That fact is Burj Dubai's Construction One more Building!!!
is that okay? are you following me?

christos-greece
November 19th, 2009, 06:18 PM
^^ Do you mean that Emaar is/was planning to built a second tower in Dubai, like Burj Dubai (twin) same height/floors? Anyone know about this?


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/4108744785_d94ed79512_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobpickard/4108744785/

korea2002
November 19th, 2009, 06:27 PM
^^ Do you mean that Emaar is/was planning to built a second tower in Dubai, like Burj Dubai (twin) same height/floors? Anyone know about this?


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/4108744785_d94ed79512_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobpickard/4108744785/

yeah... This news was released in 2008,but I think Imre will know this..
Because there's nothing know better than Imre... Burjdubai's contractor might have forgotten this..

234sale
November 19th, 2009, 06:53 PM
did you read this news?
2008.5.30 press released.
have you ever heard of Twin Burj Dubai's Construction? this is fact in 2008,not Rumor.
If you want to give Exact Information about this amazing project,contact Emmar(Dubai) or Samsung Dubai Office.

below....I think Imre or 234sale,AtinD knew this news or read this article in 2008...

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1565/20080529085239865011.jpg

Twins ' The [pe] the [cu] two at all Samsung product construction Samsung product constructive section Arab Emirates (UAE) two at all ' The [pe] [cu] two at all ' Makes the twins building. The [pe] [cu] two [pe] [cu] two at all in the side which hits at all and a thing where the rough copy layer building where the height * shape etc. are identical enters is. The 29th constructive industry [ey_tta_lu_myen] two [pe] [cu] two which at all an independent space-time in Samsung product constructive section the forehead [lu] which is a government-managed development enterprise (Emaar) lives made a twins building erecting plan at all and requested. The [pe] [cu] two the desert flower at the form one building is highest at all from the world. The 160th floor which is a last March 25th last layer (623m) public corporation ends and currently the spire (above of building height inclusion highest 800m) the construction which builds is advanced above the building. Enforcement the forehead [lu] company, space-time Samsung product constructive section * hemp cloth [su] (Belgium) * Arab [theyk] (two) 3 companies kept at all. Forehead [lu] [pe] [cu] two which lives is satisfied, became known that proposes the independent spatial-temporal contract of the [pe] [cu] two at all twins building in Samsung product Ministry of Construction meaning of a passage rough copy layer spatial-temporal technique which public corporation leads at all successfully and management style etc. The [pe] [cu] two the total public corporation rain of the twins building comes [pe] [cu] two (about 1,000,000,000,000 won) at all at all similar 1,100,000,000,000 ~ 1,200,000,000,000 won lines is. The forehead [lu] buying Samsung product constructive section year-end about [pe] [cu] two which comes is the plan which the memorandom of under-standing: MOU (MOU) will contract at all about twins building space-time. The very first time ocean company a time at the year-end when is come the [pe] [cu] two at all interior public corporation which is a plan which will contract next month MOU and landscape architecture public corporation etc. is finished extended. The industry one persons concerned " Samsung product from Middle East entire area [pe] [cu] two at all severely thinks a spatial-temporal effect " " The development companies which prepare a rough copy layer building erecting continue and " where they request a space-time and a technical investigation at Samsung; Said.

in korean-Original Article.
'쌍둥이'버즈두바이 삼성물산이 건설

삼성물산 건설부문이 아랍에미리트(UAE) 두바이에 '버즈두바이' 쌍둥이 빌딩을 짓는다. 버즈두바이 맞은 편에 버즈두바이와 높이·모양 등이 똑같은 초고층 건물이 들어서는 것이다.

29일 건설업계에 따르면 두바이 국영개발업체인 이마르(Emaar)사는 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩 건립 계획을 세우고 삼성물산 건설부문에 단독 시공을 요청했다.

버즈두바이는 사막꽃을 형상화한 건축물로 세계에서 가장 높다. 지난 3월 25일 마지막층인 160층(623m) 공사가 끝나 현재는 건물 위에 첨탑(건물 높이 포함 최고 800m 이상)을 세우는 공사가 진행되고 있다. 시행은 이마르사, 시공은 삼성물산 건설부문·베식스(벨기에)·아랍텍(두바이) 3개사가 맡았다.

이마르사는 버즈두바이 공사를 성공적으로 이끈 삼성물산 건설부문의 초고층 시공 기술과 관리 방식 등에 만족, 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩의 단독 시공 계약을 제안한 것으로 알려졌다.

버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩의 총 공사비는 버즈두바이(약 1조원)와 비슷한 1조1000억∼1조2000억원선이다.

이마르사와 삼성물산 건설부문은 오는 연말쯤 버즈두바이 쌍둥이 빌딩 시공에 대한 양해각서(MOU)를 체결할 계획이다. 당초 양사는 다음달 MOU를 체결할 예정이었으나 버즈두바이 실내공사와 조경공사 등이 마무리되는 올 연말로 시기를 늦췄다.

업계 한 관계자는 "삼성물산이 중동 전역에서 버즈두바이 시공 효과를 톡톡히 보고 있다"며 "초고층 빌딩 건립을 준비하고 있는 개발회사들이 잇따라 삼성에 시공 및 기술 검토을 의뢰하고 있다"고 말했다.

http://i50.tinypic.com/34fgrw6.jpg :nuts:

aravinda
November 19th, 2009, 06:54 PM
some new pics i took in the last few days

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9241/dsc02496r.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/dsc02496r.jpg/)http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/dsc02496r.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img262/dsc02496r.jpg/1/)
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1219/dsc02496q.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/dsc02496q.jpg/)http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/dsc02496q.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img43/dsc02496q.jpg/1/)
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5321/dsc02507c.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/dsc02507c.jpg/)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/dsc02507c.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img5/dsc02507c.jpg/1/)
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7822/dsc02518o.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/i/dsc02518o.jpg/)http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/dsc02518o.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img252/dsc02518o.jpg/1/)
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7311/dsc02572.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/dsc02572.jpg/)http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/dsc02572.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img684/dsc02572.jpg/1/)

Old Town Resident
November 19th, 2009, 07:41 PM
More and more lights illuminating the BD almost on a daily basis at the moment.

Im really looking forward to the next few weeks light shows.:cheers:

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/012.jpg

xlchris
November 19th, 2009, 07:49 PM
Can't imagine how it'll be like on the top floor :nuts:

Jeromeo
November 19th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Not sure if this video has been linked yet

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c3_1258237971
Have a look here Chris.:nuts:^

REIMOND
November 19th, 2009, 08:55 PM
THESE ARE MY PHOTOS ON TOP OF BURJ DUBAI

but i put some text there sorry...


http://picasaweb.google.com.ph/dnomier/20080819173725?locked=true#5405903173443477698

http://picasaweb.google.com.ph/dnomier/20080819173725?locked=true#5405903464812600674

http://picasaweb.google.com.ph/dnomier/20080819173725?locked=true#5405903824829079378

http://picasaweb.google.com.ph/dnomier/20080819173725?locked=true#5405904173935335106

http://picasaweb.google.com.ph/dnomier/20080819173725?locked=true#5405904489475073122

http://picasaweb.google.com.ph/dnomier/20080819173725?locked=true#5405904783498894610

Bob Rock
November 19th, 2009, 08:55 PM
:drool:

Old Town Resident
November 19th, 2009, 09:03 PM
^^

No images showing!

Fury
November 19th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Hi all.

Change thread title to 824.6 plus 1.2 = 825.8 for when the spire opening at the top is opened!

1.2m being the spire diameter at this location. I have not counted the hinges.

Closing in on the magical 888 number rapidly.

Hi OTR.

The top of the pinnacle (top of tier 30) has the floor where the hatch is mounted down inside approx. 1.2 meters. The hatch looks to be ~ 0.6 m. in diameter. To put it another way (I'll stick to the plans heights untill the extra 6.0 m. is official) the top of tier 30 that is now the "railing" for the top platform is at 818.0. The floor where the hatch is mounted is at ~ 816.8 so even when the ~ 0.6 meter wide hatch is open it is still below the railings by ~ 0.6 m. It was a good thought though. :)

Change back to 819m

Burj Dubai not affected by new criteria

Hi Stephan.

The press almost never gets it right ...:ohno:
The guy who used to be at the CTBUH said he doesn't think it will affect the height but IMO it most definately will.
The new wording covers the reason for using the entrance to the office lobby on the concourse level exactly - "height is measured from the level of the lowest, significant, open-air, pedestrian entrance".
- It is the lowest
- It is one of the 3 main entrances
- It does open to the outside air
- It is a pedestrian entrance
I feel it is safe to put it this way ;
Rest assured, the official height will be taken from the floor of the Concourse level.

Hi Korea.

I read something similar a long while ago and never gave it a second thought.
More press garbage - no way - no how - utter nonsence IMO.

I do remember some talk of a much smaller building similar to the BD in another country though. I can't recall where or who the contractor was though. Anyone have any insight ?

:cheers:

CULWULLA
November 19th, 2009, 10:26 PM
^you tell em fury! lol
just on weather and heat. in sydney today its set to soar with temps to hit 41 or 106f.
and in states west it will hit 45deg./113f
how hot is it currently in dubai?

korea2002
November 20th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Hi all.



Hi OTR.

The top of the pinnacle (top of tier 30) has the floor where the hatch is mounted down inside approx. 1.2 meters. The hatch looks to be ~ 0.6 m. in diameter. To put it another way (I'll stick to the plans heights untill the extra 6.0 m. is official) the top of tier 30 that is now the "railing" for the top platform is at 818.0. The floor where the hatch is mounted is at ~ 816.8 so even when the ~ 0.6 meter wide hatch is open it is still below the railings by ~ 0.6 m. It was a good thought though. :)



Hi Stephan.

The press almost never gets it right ...:ohno:
The guy who used to be at the CTBUH said he doesn't think it will affect the height but IMO it most definately will.
The new wording covers the reason for using the entrance to the office lobby on the concourse level exactly - "height is measured from the level of the lowest, significant, open-air, pedestrian entrance".
- It is the lowest
- It is one of the 3 main entrances
- It does open to the outside air
- It is a pedestrian entrance
I feel it is safe to put it this way ;
Rest assured, the official height will be taken from the floor of the Concourse level.

Hi Korea.

I read something similar a long while ago and never gave it a second thought.
More press garbage - no way - no how - utter nonsence IMO.

I do remember some talk of a much smaller building similar to the BD in another country though. I can't recall where or who the contractor was though. Anyone have any insight ?

:cheers:

hey! refer to 234sale's new threads..
I said to Another BD in article,234sale(he) know Another Burj Dubai Same Height,and Same Floor after Burj Dubai's Construction Completion!
Two same Burj Dubai's Construction,also Contractor was decided Samsung already.So,BD is not one but two towers!

korea2002
November 20th, 2009, 12:29 AM
http://i50.tinypic.com/34fgrw6.jpg :nuts:


hey buddy,Very thanks! God bless you! my Dubai's Friend knew Twin Burj Dubai's Construction, ^^ This is not Rumor! this is fact from press release!
is this located in neighborhood of Burj dubai site?

moscowboy
November 20th, 2009, 12:49 AM
^^ Do you mean that Emaar is/was planning to built a second tower in Dubai, like Burj Dubai (twin) same height/floors? Anyone know about this?




Samsung and the Japanese companies have not been paid for long time. They are on the brink of bankruptcy.. Neither parties will ever again build anything in Dubai.. once burned, twice shy..

moscowboy
November 20th, 2009, 12:53 AM
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9241/dsc02496r.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/dsc02496r.jpg/)http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/dsc02496r.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img262/dsc02496r.jpg/1/)


In this picture, I see some palm trees in the small island.. in the middle of the sea/ creek.
do they have sewer water pipes going into this small island to water the palm trees?
I know all the greenery in Dubai is watered by sewer water..

CULWULLA
November 20th, 2009, 01:22 AM
mighty burj compared to other tallies
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2803/4118747884_97d021ca8a_o.jpg

Fury
November 20th, 2009, 02:38 AM
:popcorn:

hey buddy,Very thanks! God bless you! my Dubai's Friend knew Twin Burj Dubai's Construction, ^^ This is not Rumor! this is fact from press release!
is this located in neighborhood of Burj dubai site?

:lol:
:rofl:
:hahaha:

CULWULLA
November 20th, 2009, 04:33 AM
everyone seems to be getting a higher observation deck then burjD ;(
even 555m lotte tower
lev122/123 ob deck located 481m/286m high
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7367/toplotte1.jpg

VRS
November 20th, 2009, 06:36 AM
nice picture....

234sale
November 20th, 2009, 06:46 AM
http://i45.tinypic.com/17pkp4.jpg

aravinda
November 20th, 2009, 06:48 AM
In this picture, I see some palm trees in the small island.. in the middle of the sea/ creek.
do they have sewer water pipes going into this small island to water the palm trees?
I know all the greenery in Dubai is watered by sewer water..

water pipes under water from the mainlad. the island is about 5-10 meters off the shore on the creek.

steve1young
November 20th, 2009, 06:48 AM
Teddys on holiday thats why just camels now:)

http://i47.tinypic.com/o729vt.jpg

Imre,

We're missing Teddy. :(

At least the fur color is close, but that's probably where the similarities end. At least I hope so, for your sake!

234sale
November 20th, 2009, 07:05 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2vt2vf8.jpg
from deviantart.com.

moscowboy
November 20th, 2009, 08:54 AM
Hi all.

I do remember some talk of a much smaller building similar to the BD in another country though. I can't recall where or who the contractor was though. Anyone have any insight ?

:cheers:

The same company designed a couple of three winged buildings in USA. The first was condo in Chicago. The three winged design gives maximum outside view.

AltinD
November 20th, 2009, 10:32 AM
hey! refer to 234sale's new threads..
I said to Another BD in article,234sale(he) know Another Burj Dubai Same Height,and Same Floor after Burj Dubai's Construction Completion!
Two same Burj Dubai's Construction,also Contractor was decided Samsung already.So,BD is not one but two towers!

They probabaly read a April fool thread we opened some years ago in the UAE section for the looflirpa tower :rofl:

PurePaki
November 20th, 2009, 11:47 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2vt2vf8.jpg
from deviantart.com.

fake

PurePaki
November 20th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Imre,

We're missing Teddy. :(


teddy died of swine flu?

AltinD
November 20th, 2009, 12:05 PM
fake

Where's that owl giff when you need one ... :laugh:

REIMOND
November 20th, 2009, 12:12 PM
here are some of my photos in top of burj dubai..

i put some text sorry...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cA3Vmeg4Cq0/SwWnCO2GKUI/AAAAAAAAEPY/-YLaSjlyiXA/s1600/IMG_2804.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cA3Vmeg4Cq0/SwWnCg-GDyI/AAAAAAAAEPg/7HNwgwywqJw/s1600/IMG_2911.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cA3Vmeg4Cq0/SwWnDNjVuPI/AAAAAAAAEPo/3b5zWvouN_M/s1600/IMG_2905.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cA3Vmeg4Cq0/SwWnDc7lDrI/AAAAAAAAEPw/fhygZaE7nuY/s1600/IMG_2906.jpg

234sale
November 20th, 2009, 12:21 PM
Thanks but these are a year old :yawn:

http://i46.tinypic.com/5zgupx.jpg

I pano'd them a bit ;)

234sale
November 20th, 2009, 12:30 PM
10/November/2009
http://i37.tinypic.com/2uzuvww.jpg


Week ago

234sale
November 20th, 2009, 12:39 PM
Spot the difference ;)

http://i50.tinypic.com/2q9wetk.jpg

gerald.d
November 20th, 2009, 04:17 PM
fake

:lol:

Desert Diver
November 20th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Great camel pics, Imre! :cheers2:

Today's sunset at Za'abeel. After many months the clouds are back :)

http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_3005473_y.jpg


http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_zaabeelsunset_0911220_3_y.jpg (http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_zaabeelsunset_0911220_3_x.jpg)
Click here or on above image for large format! (http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_zaabeelsunset_0911220_3_x.jpg)

whoami
November 20th, 2009, 05:33 PM
nice pics with faces.. wish have that luxury also... :bash:

christos-greece
November 20th, 2009, 06:44 PM
^^ Like those sunset photos above, a similar one:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/4119913180_992b643d38_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8428979@N08/4119913180/

Imre
November 20th, 2009, 07:41 PM
20/November/2009

Burj Dubai from The Address - Dubai Mall Hotel

http://i48.tinypic.com/18et0h.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/15y9boj.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/21147bt.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/ejhf6p.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/29mqb6u.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2iavskj.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/mcayl2.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/1628dhj.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/317h72r.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/29qf57r.jpg

Imre
November 20th, 2009, 07:45 PM
20/November/2009

Burj Dubai , cladding progress and Annex

http://i48.tinypic.com/2628kug.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/33le2yx.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/24fwlf5.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/24oxftd.jpg

HJ
November 20th, 2009, 07:46 PM
@ Imre and desert driver: pics are great guys!!

@ all:

Does anybody knows if the obstruction lights are working yet? I saw on YouTube a spectacular lightshow on the BD....

Imre
November 20th, 2009, 07:53 PM
20/November/2009

Burj Dubai , landscaping and entrance

http://i49.tinypic.com/2v34sb5.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2h3wnj9.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/33x7e38.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/34tep07.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/315ltau.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/xmo1nt.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2w65oht.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/30dcxth.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2u6k8qh.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2817zh0.jpg

and the view from my friend apartment :)

http://i49.tinypic.com/a2gbps.jpg

more pics here :

Burj Dubai photos from The Address- Dubai Mall Hotel , 20/November/2009
Nov 20, 2009
photos: 39

http://picasaweb.google.com/imresolt/BurjDubaiPhotosFromTheAddressDubaiMallHotel20November2009#

The Address- Dubai Mall Hotel photos and the view from hotel rooms,Dubai, 20/November/2009
Nov 20, 2009
photos: 137

http://picasaweb.google.com/imresolt/TheAddressDubaiMallHotelPhotosAndTheViewFromHotelRoomsDubai20November2009#

Swiddle
November 20th, 2009, 10:39 PM
Where's that owl giff when you need one ... :laugh:

http://i48.tinypic.com/xc6opk.jpg

:lol:

http://i47.tinypic.com/24fwlf5.jpg

I'm surprised so many windows and other cladding parts are still missing. Actually, I bet they were installed and have been taken out for some reason. (I'm too lazy to look through old photos to see.) Makes you wonder if they weren't installed correctly and are now being repaired.

moscowboy
November 21st, 2009, 12:47 AM
Great photos imre.
There is no way they could finish all that landscaping work before jan 4, 2010.

Fury
November 21st, 2009, 02:19 AM
Hi all.

I'm surprised so many windows and other cladding parts are still missing. Actually, I bet they were installed and have been taken out for some reason. (I'm too lazy to look through old photos to see.) Makes you wonder if they weren't installed correctly and are now being repaired.

Hi Swiddle.

It looks like all the cladding panels are in place but need to be glazed. It also looks like there are a few that are boarded. I agree when the panels were placed they were glazed. As you said there was most likely a problem with the glass to panel connection that needs to be redone. I find it hard to believe those materials wouldn't be onsite as it appears they are waiting for something to get the job done.

The same company designed a couple of three winged buildings in USA. The first was condo in Chicago. The three winged design gives maximum outside view.

Hi moscow.

Thanks for that ... I am aware of all of the above ...

There is no way they could finish all that landscaping work before jan 4, 2010.

I disagree. They still have over 6 weeks untill the soft opening if they don't delay it yet again. Imre's great update from today shows the hotel podium (podium C) is well on the way to completion. There is still alot to do but I think all 3 podiums will be ready for the soft opening.
The interior levels above 50 - 70 are another storey.

:cheers:

neonawesomeness
November 21st, 2009, 05:34 AM
Ah! I can't believe standing up there on weather conditions like that! So scary!

Land Man
November 21st, 2009, 05:53 AM
I disagree. They still have over 6 weeks untill the soft opening if they don't delay it yet again. Imre's great update from today shows the hotel podium (podium C) is well on the way to completion. There is still alot to do but I think all 3 podiums will be ready for the soft opening.

:cheers:

I'll weigh in with Fury on this one.

I think that landscaping is coming along just fine and it is great to start to see those splashes of green. They are already getting all of the big palms, trees, and large bushes in which is some of the hardest stuff. The deal with good landscaping contractors is it all looks pretty dirty, scruffy, and messy for a long time then very quickly the completion ramps up - they slap down sod, get the smaller bushes and plants in, haul off their gear, turn on the sprinklers - and Bango! It suddenly looks great and like it's been there for a long time.

aravinda
November 21st, 2009, 06:23 AM
anyone noticed the flood-lit building lighting system being tested the last few days? the lights are placed at the top of each tier pointing up to the next tier...looks awesome when the whole building is lit up.

Joachim
November 21st, 2009, 09:49 AM
Can't remember seeing this video passing by in this tread. And if it did, well, screw that, it's cool enough to see it a second time ;)

enjoy!

oWVLzVhnYE0

Imre
November 21st, 2009, 12:05 PM
The Burj not but at least the camel visible :)

s6K584X42vM

christos-greece
November 21st, 2009, 01:43 PM
^^ I remember the photos also from that area; how far is from Burj Dubai @Imre?

Imre
November 21st, 2009, 01:49 PM
^^ I remember the photos also from that area; how far is from Burj Dubai @Imre?

hmm, no idea, you can check on the google, location is between the Arabian Legends and Al Barari sites.

zbieraj
November 21st, 2009, 03:15 PM
Can't remember seeing this video passing by in this tread. And if it did, well, screw that, it's cool enough to see it a second time ;)

enjoy!

oWVLzVhnYE0

Unfortunately it was about 150 pages ago ;).

Imre
November 21st, 2009, 03:30 PM
cladding still not done...but we are almost there :)

21/November/2009

Burj Dubai, cladding progress and spire

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ebzb5u.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/15883ty.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/nf95h.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2d9a8mp.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/kbwtqr.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/24drmn5.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/25jxg0x.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/34sndhf.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/9ql1ls.jpg

Imre
November 21st, 2009, 03:40 PM
21/November/2009

Burj Dubai from the Business Bay

http://i47.tinypic.com/qzgns1.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/723scj.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2hfqm3n.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/smx0s7.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/mmzrl0.jpg

Old Town Resident
November 21st, 2009, 05:55 PM
In a month or so some more lights, clouds and lightning.

Good pics to come!
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/003.jpg

Psofos
November 21st, 2009, 06:07 PM
Dear all. Are there any resale opportunities for a two bed on the Burj? What are the approximate costs?


Hi all.



Hi Swiddle.

It looks like all the cladding panels are in place but need to be glazed. It also looks like there are a few that are boarded. I agree when the panels were placed they were glazed. As you said there was most likely a problem with the glass to panel connection that needs to be redone. I find it hard to believe those materials wouldn't be onsite as it appears they are waiting for something to get the job done.



Hi moscow.

Thanks for that ... I am aware of all of the above ...



I disagree. They still have over 6 weeks untill the soft opening if they don't delay it yet again. Imre's great update from today shows the hotel podium (podium C) is well on the way to completion. There is still alot to do but I think all 3 podiums will be ready for the soft opening.
The interior levels above 50 - 70 are another storey.

:cheers:[/QUOTE]

Desert Diver
November 21st, 2009, 06:18 PM
I just took a vertical panorama of BD, three pictures stitched. Therefore, the tower looks not as slim as it really is... But I love the colors. I did not do any photoshopping, just set the white balance before shooting (personal secret recipe :lol: )

The lighting improves by the day, it will be awesome when it is finished! Sorry, but I had to post this one in large size (only scaled it down a bit from 7623 pixels height to 5900px).

:cheers2:

http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_burjdubai_pano2_x.jpg


Another one

http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_burjdubai_pano1_y.jpg


Fountain show:

http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_3006098_y.jpg

wearethefuture
November 21st, 2009, 06:32 PM
I just took a vertical panorama of BD, three pictures stitched. Therefore, the tower looks not as slim as it really is... But I love the colors. I did not do any photoshopping, just set the white balance before shooting (personal secret recipe :lol: )

The lighting improves by the day, it will be awesome when it is finished! Sorry, but I had to post this one in large size (only scaled it down a bit from 7623 pixels height to 5900px).

http://www.verticaldubai.com/downtown_dubai_burjdubai_pano2_x.jpg


Quite possibly the best photo i have ever seen of BD!

234sale
November 21st, 2009, 06:34 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/154iudh.jpg
Image by Gerald.d , I have his memory card as his mac is making a 4giga pixel

234sale
November 21st, 2009, 06:42 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/s4azxy.jpg
By Gerald.D

Desert Diver
November 21st, 2009, 06:43 PM
...as his mac is making a 4giga pixel

Looking forward to that one :cheers2:

234sale
November 21st, 2009, 06:59 PM
His 5d file sizes are 7meg, my acer revo is suffering

Imre
November 21st, 2009, 07:10 PM
Dear all. Are there any resale opportunities for a two bed on the Burj? What are the approximate costs?


Around 3800-4500 dhs/sqft , depends on the floor and the view so 7-8-9 million AED.

Difficult to get a cheaper one ,most of apartments 100 % paid because people bought credit notes at 40-50% discount.

Imre
November 21st, 2009, 07:18 PM
21/November/2009

Bus Dubai :)

http://i50.tinypic.com/142uesn.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/x2118l.jpg

234sale
November 21st, 2009, 07:24 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/j8gso2.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/34nlb0o.jpg

At the Dubai Mall their is a vistor center, you can peep though the hole ;)

234sale
November 21st, 2009, 07:46 PM
Taken using my phone camera
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ni1q1z.jpg

234sale
November 21st, 2009, 07:52 PM
Reflection on Marble
http://i48.tinypic.com/303ic1i.jpg
Taken by Gerald.d

Neoxsparkx
November 21st, 2009, 09:25 PM
I imagine the future greenery to make the scene beautiful, the current desert sand really ruins it..

xlchris
November 21st, 2009, 09:27 PM
@234scale - That's an outstanding pic! Thanks for making (and posting) ;)

pentimo
November 21st, 2009, 10:37 PM
Burj Dubai sunset

http://panorama.pentimo.com

http://panorama.pentimo.com/bdsunset.jpg

Betelgeuze
November 21st, 2009, 11:51 PM
Dubai (and Burj Dubai) in a way you've never seen before:
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/21/mystery-vga-teaser-revealed-as-spec-ops/

watch the video in that link ;)

Fury
November 22nd, 2009, 01:30 AM
Hi all.

Great updates guys.

As I posted before some of the residential will most likely be part of the soft opening. Almost all the lights are on in tier 4 now - tiers 4, 5, and 6 are the residential area.

They must be planning to hang some heavy drapes and/or blinds for the units at the ends of the wings. The floodlights do make the structure look great but they would be mighty invasive for the people in the end units. Frick - your living room would be lit up like a hospital operating room ...:nuts:

:cheers:

Imre
November 22nd, 2009, 03:45 AM
Burj Dubai

http://i46.tinypic.com/28ml1lx.jpg

Panapty_2
November 22nd, 2009, 04:23 AM
amusing

Fury
November 22nd, 2009, 05:23 AM
Hi all.

I will use copy and paste direct quotes from the CTBUH site.

Height is measured from the level1 of the lowest, significant2 , open-air3, pedestrian4 entrance ...
Footnotes:
1 Level: finished floor level at threshold of the lowest entrance door
2 Significant: the entrance should be predominantly above existing or pre-existing grade and permit access to one or more primary uses in the building via elevators, as opposed to ground floor retail or other uses which solely relate/connect to the immediately adjacent external environment. Thus entrances via below-grade sunken plazas or similar are not generally recognized. Also note that access to car park and/or ancillary/support areas are not considered significant entrances.
3 Open-air: the entrance must be located directly off of an external space at that level that is open to air.
4 Pedestrian: refers to common building users or occupants and is intended to exclude service, ancillary, or similar areas.

1 - As was figured previously the measurement will begin from the floor of the level.
2 - All of these criteria are met by the concourse level. The entrance is obviously above the existing grade. The pre-existing grade before the hole was dug is below the entrance also. I think I read somewhere it was approx 1 meter above the DMD (Dubai Municipal Datum) and this seems pretty close looking at how deep the excavation was, perhaps Altin knows this ? The top of the raft is 3.75 m. below the DMD. The concourse level floor is 9.25 m. above the raft or 5.5 m. above the DMD so we're safe to assume this criteria is met.
3 and 4 are both met for sure.
Pretty much guaranteed the concourse level will be included in the height adding 6.0 meters to all 3 official measures as compared to the plans.

The number of floors should include the ground floor level and be the number of main floors above ground, including any significant mezzanine floors and major mechanical plant floors. Mechanical mezzanines should not be included if they have a significantly smaller floor area than the major floors below nor should mechanical penthouses or plant rooms protruding above the general roof area. Note: CTBUH floor counts may differ from published accounts, as it is common in some regions of the world for certain floor levels not to be included (e.g. the level 4, 14, 24, etc in Hong Kong).

Highest occupied floor: this is intended to recognize conditioned space which is designed to be safely and legally occupied by residents, workers or other building users on a consistent basis. It does not include service or mechanical areas which experience occasional maintenance access, etc.

The highest occupied level and number of levels are not so clear going by this.
Whether the mezzanines will be included is a question mark. Level 154 will be included surely as it covers the entire area of the level below . Also it is named as a seperate level and only its use is shown as a mezzanine in the plans. Now 158M, 160M1, 160M2,and 160M3 are another matter on 2 fronts.
1 - These are mechanical mezzanines and do have a smaller floorprint than the level below. It will be up to the CTBUH to decide if the difference in size warrants including them.
2 - By looking at the wording there may be some room to include levels and/or mezzanines above level 154 in the official count. Level 154 is the highest level occupied by tennants but the wording includes occupied by workers on a consistant basis. This may allow levels up to 160M3 to be included in the official count and in the height to the highest occupied level measure.
The plans levels count of 162 already allows for the 4 skipped levels, includes the 6 mezz. levels (which it should IMO), and does not include the concourse.

The official count could be anywhere from 158 to 163.
The height to the highest occupied level could be anywhere from level 154 - 580.5 meters to level 160M3 - 630.1 meters (from the concourse and assuming they measure up to the floor of those levels which they probably do). I kinda doubt all of the mezzanines will be considered as occupied on a consistant basis but that remains to be seen.

When is a tall building considered to be “completed”?
A completed building can be considered such—and added to the “tallest” lists—if it fulfils all of the following three criteria:
1) topped out structurally and architecturally,
2) fully-clad,
3) open for business, or at least partially occupied

Number 3 of these criteria allows the official height to be recorded right after the soft opening. Good news IMO - I was wondering if they would wait untill the whole of the works was completed.

The developer Emaar is still confidential about the height of the building and we don't mind it being confidential. But if they open the Burj and don't release the height, then we will measure the height of the building. During construction it is fine, but after construction we want to know and our people want to know its final height.


I am kinda surprised by this. The developer could be incorrect somehow and overstate the height. There are any number of reasons for this. Something could have deviated from the plans by a half a meter, etc. I don't see this being the case as most companies are honest but it kinda takes away from the "official-ness" of it all. With all the secrecy around this project I'm sure the CTBUH will have to do their own measurement anyway.

My guess for the height to tip will be 824.6 meters. This makes an assumption on the beacon height and doesn't allow for any settling in case they don't actually measure. I hope the CTBUH does measure and I hope Emaar puts up a flagpole, lightning rod, or antenae to push this height up even further.

:cheers:

moneycoach123
November 22nd, 2009, 10:22 AM
That's it?

christos-greece
November 22nd, 2009, 10:40 AM
What and why are those stones there?
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ni1q1z.jpg

moscowboy
November 22nd, 2009, 10:47 AM
What and why are those stones there?

The top of the stones are polished (probably to reflect the BD) and all sides are pretty flat. Looks like some artistic thing - a mini stone henge.

BennyYarnell
November 22nd, 2009, 11:09 AM
Did this of my girlfriend last summer. I always take her photos and play with them in photoshop in order to.. well, impress her I suppose. I can honestly say it works :yes: And she's really into fantasy imagery anyways, so painting faerie wings on her and transporting her to some surreal world always goes over well. The Burj, and Dubai's night skylines in general make for great elements. No surprise there.

Btw this was thrown together in 20 minutes (as I do a lot of them on the spot for her), please don't judge my PS skills too harshly based on this image.

http://i48.tinypic.com/bds9rc.jpg

gerald.d
November 22nd, 2009, 11:30 AM
Did this of my girlfriend last summer. I always take her photos and play with them in photoshop in order to.. well, impress her I suppose. I can honestly say it works :yes: And she's really into fantasy imagery anyways, so painting faerie wings on her and transporting her to some surreal world always goes over well. The Burj, and Dubai's night skylines in general make for great elements. No surprise there.

Btw this was thrown together in 20 minutes (as I do a lot of them on the spot for her), please don't judge my PS skills too harshly based on this image.


Given that we're not allowed to judge your PS skills based on this, would it be OK to judge your general artistic intent instead?

BennyYarnell
November 22nd, 2009, 12:18 PM
Given that we're not allowed to judge your PS skills based on this, would it be OK to judge your general artistic intent instead?

Of course :banana: go for it!

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 12:27 PM
What and why are those stones there?

Sit on maybe

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 12:34 PM
Did this of my girlfriend last summer. I always take her photos and play with them in photoshop in order to.. well, impress her I suppose. I can honestly say it works :yes: And she's really into fantasy imagery anyways, so painting faerie wings on her and transporting her to some surreal world always goes over well. The Burj, and Dubai's night skylines in general make for great elements. No surprise there.

Btw this was thrown together in 20 minutes (as I do a lot of them on the spot for her), please don't judge my PS skills too harshly based on this image.

http://i48.tinypic.com/bds9rc.jpg

nice,:cheers:

Figueiredo
November 22nd, 2009, 12:34 PM
i hate it, hate the building itself, hate the surroundings areas, hate the all "concept" of dubai, its just stupid, heigh, height and more height, that is not a city for my standarts, oh well :ohno:

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 12:34 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/sgn4nn.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2gx4tub.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2qlyfxv.jpg

BennyYarnell
November 22nd, 2009, 12:50 PM
i hate it, hate the building itself, hate the surroundings areas, hate the all "concept" of dubai, its just stupid, heigh, height and more height, that is not a city for my standarts, oh well :ohno:

yes, the city for your standarts understands art stands to many standarts, unlike stupid Dubai, who doesn't have standarts or art stands, only heigh buildings,

Desert Diver
November 22nd, 2009, 12:58 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/2qlyfxv.jpg

:banana::banana::banana:

Will we get to see the result? :)

(I know it's not going to be a JPG :lol: But mabe a scan?)

The Engineer
November 22nd, 2009, 01:05 PM
i hate it, hate the building itself, hate the surroundings areas, hate the all "concept" of dubai, its just stupid, heigh, height and more height, that is not a city for my standarts, oh well :ohno:

Then what is it you're doing on skyscrapercity.com if you don't like heigh buildings?

Dredzik
November 22nd, 2009, 01:14 PM
good architecture doesn't have to be high.

DXBQuantum
November 22nd, 2009, 01:14 PM
234,

not sure if im being dumb, but what is the instrument in that photo? - is it to see if the ground is level, surveying e.t.c?

gerald.d
November 22nd, 2009, 01:18 PM
234,

not sure if im being dumb, but what is the instrument in that photo? - is it to see if the ground is level, surveying e.t.c?

If I'm not mistaken, that's an 8x10* view camera.

The focusing screen that you see in the shots from behind will be removed and replaced with the film plate for the actual photo.


*i.e. The film that the photo is taken on is 8 inches by 10 inches. To put that into perspective, a standard 35mm film camera has film that is about 1 inch by 1.5 inches, or less than 2% of the area.

35mm film is close to around an effective resolution of 25 megapixels. So if film from that camera gets scanned... :)

Desert Diver
November 22nd, 2009, 01:21 PM
good architecture doesn't have to be high.

Good skyscrapers do.

gerald.d
November 22nd, 2009, 01:28 PM
Of course :banana: go for it!

I did look, but we don't have a smiley chundering.

Your girlfriend looks quite fit though.

DXBQuantum
November 22nd, 2009, 01:36 PM
If I'm not mistaken, that's an 8x10 view camera.

The focusing screen that you see in the shots from behind will be removed and replaced with the film plate for the actual photo.

so its just a camera? :nuts:

gerald.d
November 22nd, 2009, 01:39 PM
so its just a camera? :nuts:

Yup. Large format, very serious professional stuff :cheers:

Colour me exceptionally jealous!

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 01:55 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/21e68n9.jpg

Each plate cost $40 dollars, plus then mega bucks to process.

Photo of a plate being loaded.

His name is David and he is from Vancouver

Here's the story as I only met him 20 minutes before.

I was driving round business bay, saw some guy taking pictures so I stoped and asked if he was an investor. He said he was an architect, he was more interested in 014, so I said I could get us up U-Bora to see the view.

We go their and took him up, he liked the view and asked if he could get his bigger camera from the car. I asked what he had,, nikon,, canon,, ect... He said and 8x10.. (Not knowing what an 8x10 was) I said ok

He then pulled this out of his magic sack.

He runs 4 Galleries in Canada, his first vist to Dubai. Said I would take him round tomorrow.

Each photo sells as a limited print from $2000 upwards

People you meet with Camera's Hey...

Desert Diver
November 22nd, 2009, 02:12 PM
^^ Great stuff :cheers2:

Just got home and saw towering clouds coming in. Possibly we'll have some rain tonight :banana:

And when it rains it pours :)

OTR: Ready to take some more lightning pics of the spire? :cheers2:

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 02:15 PM
Gerald

He was interested to here about your 4giga pixel..

Maybe you can give hime permission for some of you photos in his gallery in US and Canda

http://i48.tinypic.com/14c43n9.jpg
By Gerald.d as his main pc is taken up by a 4giga pixel

DXBQuantum
November 22nd, 2009, 02:22 PM
can u upload a picture taken from that thing?

gerald.d
November 22nd, 2009, 02:28 PM
can u upload a picture taken from that thing?

It's 8 inches by 10 inches film.

Typically you'd develop the negative, then scan it in using a high quality scanner (you can get good enough scanners for well under $1000).

Once it's scanned in, you can do pretty much anything you want with it.

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 02:34 PM
It's 8 inches by 10 inches film.

Typically you'd develop the negative, then scan it in using a high quality scanner (you can get good enough scanners for well under $1000).

Once it's scanned in, you can do pretty much anything you want with it.

He uses the same pano software as you do to re-stich if he needs to.

gerald.d
November 22nd, 2009, 02:37 PM
He uses the same pano software as you do to re-stich if he needs to.

Amazing to think that he'd ever need it with 10x8s. Once scanned in, he's probably working with about 1.5GP per plate :nuts:

DXBQuantum
November 22nd, 2009, 02:48 PM
wow, and i thought a 16 mega pixel camera was good? - im way out of my league.. :D

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 02:58 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/1jm829.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/r210eg.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/b8mhp0.jpg

234sale
November 22nd, 2009, 03:40 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/k20gwk.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/aai0ww.jpg

datoriprogram
November 22nd, 2009, 04:12 PM
http://www.wimp.com/toptallest/

View from the top:cheers:

skyscraper100
November 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM
GOD! its been a long time since i opened this thread.. its almost finished. it looks fucking awesome!

skyscraper100
November 22nd, 2009, 04:42 PM
it frikin awesome! cant get over it. :lol:

daniel_zg
November 22nd, 2009, 06:45 PM
GOD! its been a long time since i opened this thread.. its almost finished. it looks fucking awesome!
There are so many projects to do. You won't be bored ; ):cheers:

Psofos
November 22nd, 2009, 08:12 PM
Now that is a girl friend!:angel1

moscowboy
November 23rd, 2009, 01:05 AM
wow, and i thought a 16 mega pixel camera was good? - im way out of my league.. :D

It is not the size of the film, but the quality and sharpness of resolution that matters.
These new canon 5dmkii with good lens should be awesome.

jemurillo0705
November 23rd, 2009, 03:47 AM
16 megapixel rocks

Imre
November 23rd, 2009, 07:21 AM
this is old but we have some music now:)

NXjDc_ap64k

234sale
November 23rd, 2009, 10:06 AM
The music version is great

AltinD
November 23rd, 2009, 10:13 AM
Sit on maybe

More like barbeque ... :runaway:

rick123
November 23rd, 2009, 11:20 AM
Teddy at work :D. Great work guys!

usedtobe
November 23rd, 2009, 03:01 PM
Based on its height, I think this tower will remain the tallest tower for a long time...

Dubai Skyscraper
November 23rd, 2009, 03:31 PM
^^^^
yes, the Nakheel Tower project can not be completed before 2020 and nowbody knows if the Kingdom Tower and "One Dubai" gets built. BD will be worlds tallest for more than ten years:banana::banana:

SirAdrian
November 23rd, 2009, 03:50 PM
And they deserve that :)

Old Town Resident
November 23rd, 2009, 04:13 PM
^^^^
yes, the Nakheel Tower project can not be completed before 2020 and nowbody knows if the Kingdom Tower and "One Dubai" gets built. BD will be worlds tallest for more than ten years:banana::banana:

Why would you celebrate that fact unless you were an Emirati?

Surely we all want to see technological advancements being applied to make the next great effort in building high?

Heroico
November 23rd, 2009, 06:29 PM
wonderful pics

christos-greece
November 23rd, 2009, 06:41 PM
Why would you celebrate that fact unless you were an Emirati?

Surely we all want to see technological advancements being applied to make the next great effort in building high?
Talking about celebrates... do you know what is the program (fireworks etc), what we going to see at the grand opening?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2534/4126871899_682c47488d_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28180466@N04/4126871899/

234sale
November 23rd, 2009, 07:34 PM
Talking about celebrates... do you know what is the program (fireworks etc), what we going to see at the grand opening?


http://i45.tinypic.com/2506vlu.jpg

They might splash out on a second box...:lol:

234sale
November 23rd, 2009, 07:40 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/2e4m2dg.jpg

234sale
November 23rd, 2009, 07:42 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/263vk2u.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/1zxawzb.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2rqodp3.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/5cpjm.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/208ie4y.jpg

krkseg1ops
November 23rd, 2009, 10:15 PM
How come the tower is 824.6m high? Wasn't that 818m? When did the height change and what has actually changed that made the tower even bigger? All in all, 6m is kind of a lot

Uaarkson
November 23rd, 2009, 10:27 PM
The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat changed their method of measuring a building's height from lowest point. Previously it was measured from street level, now it is measured from the lowest open-air space. This gave towers such as Trump Chicago and the Burj a slight height boost because they have open-air spaces which are lower than street level.

Dubai Skyscraper
November 23rd, 2009, 10:28 PM
Why would you celebrate that fact unless you were an Emirati?

Surely we all want to see technological advancements being applied to make the next great effort in building high?

you are right but i love this tower and wish it could be worlds tallest forever...

leogodoy
November 24th, 2009, 02:45 AM
Ooooh, large format FTW. You could probably print that in REAL SIZE :D

http://i50.tinypic.com/2rqodp3.jpg

Thanks a lot, 234sale. Great pics!

BTW, is that a Schneider Kreuznach Super-Angulon or a Super-Angulon XL? I've been bitten by the photobug back when I was a kid, never developed any talent but I'm still a gear aficionado. Nevermind, just read you story a few pages ago and saw that this isn't your camera. :nuts:

Cheers,
Leo

moscowboy
November 24th, 2009, 04:05 AM
Because of the financial crisis, the building boom turned into a bust and nobody will attempt another money losing project for a very long time. Thus BD might be the tallest building during our life time.

Uaarkson
November 24th, 2009, 04:46 AM
Lol, no. People born in 1930 witnessed 7 new world's tallest, through depressions, recessions and world war.

Imre
November 24th, 2009, 05:13 AM
I got from Hong Kong, it will be a BMU ad :)

http://i45.tinypic.com/2nl8m4l.jpg

Still just 818 m here.

Fury
November 24th, 2009, 05:31 AM
Hi all.

First this is in no way meant to replace Cul's fantastic drawing. His work has much more info and has other structures for comparison and I won't pretend to come any where close to his skills. Cul and many here know I love the complex arrangement of tiers and level heights and have helped many with accuracy on their work. In fact my BD Plan and Tier Methodology are too acurate for Emaar as they forced a certain website to take them off under threat of legal action.

I've done many labelled shots during construction and a series of 6 pic to plan comparisons showing how the actual structure follows the plans in regards to level and tier heights. Now that the cladding is on there have been a few questions on where this or that level is on the structure.

Here is the best render out there that I've labelled with levels and tiers.
This render is a few years old and therefore the office annex is the original planned height before they recently doubled it. I will be adding all the heights to this but I decided to wait untill the official height is released or measured after the soft opening since they all will change by 6 meters no doubt. I will post the final product after that.

Click for full size - 2550 by 5100.
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0810/Labelled_Render.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0810/Labelled_Render)

:cheers:

DXBQuantum
November 24th, 2009, 05:51 AM
Hi all.

First this is in no way meant to replace Cul's fantastic drawing. His work has much more info and has other structures for comparison and I won't pretend to come any where close to his skills. Cul and many here know I love the complex arrangement of tiers and level heights and have helped many with accuracy on their work. In fact my BD Plan and Tier Methodology are too acurate for Emaar as they forced a certain website to take them off under threat of legal action.

I've done many labelled shots during construction and a series of 6 pic to plan comparisons showing how the actual structure follows the plans in regards to level and tier heights. Now that the cladding is on there have been a few questions on where this or that level is on the structure.

Here is the best render out there that I've labelled with levels and tiers.
This render is a few years old and therefore the office annex is the original planned height before they recently doubled it. I will be adding all the heights to this but I decided to wait untill the official height is released or measured after the soft opening since they all will change by 6 meters no doubt. I will post the final product after that.

Click for full size - 2550 by 5100.
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0810/Labelled_Render.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0810/Labelled_Render)

:cheers:


Fantastic render Fury, Thanks. :cheers:

234sale
November 24th, 2009, 08:10 AM
http://www.davidburdeny.com the guy that was with me the yesterday with the 8x10 camera

AltinD
November 24th, 2009, 08:39 AM
Last night the strobe lights paralel but beneath the flood lights on each tier together with the randomly placed lights on the top section were being tested ... all these after they have already been testing powerfull light guns from the top. percing the night sky for many miles as if looking for space intruders. Cool

gerald.d
November 24th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Last night the strobe lights paralel but beneath the flood lights on each tier together with the randomly placed lights on the top section were being tested ... all these after they have already been testing powerfull light guns from the top. percing the night sky for many miles as if looking for space intruders. Cool

Not sure if you missed this image that shows those 'light guns' -

http://i49.tinypic.com/154iudh.jpg

On other matters, thanks for the latest shots of David at work 234.

This is his camera:

http://www.walkercameras.com/XL_8x10.html

It's "only" £2200, and lenses typically cost around a grand.

If there was somewhere in Dubai that sold, and more importantly, could process, the film, I'd be sorely tempted.

moscowboy
November 24th, 2009, 11:00 AM
It's "only" £2200, and lenses typically cost around a grand.

If there was somewhere in Dubai that sold, and more importantly, could
process, the film, I'd be sorely tempted.

The B&W film plates you make, you can develop yourself in your own dark room.
There might be a portable color lab available for purchase too.

Your Canon 5D MKII is very good, until you get this big camera.

AltinD
November 24th, 2009, 11:14 AM
Not sure if you missed this image that shows those 'light guns'

Yes I did. but since Sat & Sun are my days off, only last evening I could drive-by and see them at work :D

Old Town Resident
November 24th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Yes I did. but since Sat & Sun are my days off, only last evening I could drive-by and see them at work :D

Working Eoropean times Mr Altin?

Old Town Resident
November 24th, 2009, 11:33 AM
http://i45.tinypic.com/2e4m2dg.jpg

Look at the ghostly head in this pic taken by Sale!:lol:

By chance is this another MJ sighting in the clouds?

AltinD
November 24th, 2009, 12:34 PM
Working Eoropean times Mr Altin?

Yes, even when Thur - Fri was the weekend here :ohno:

SirAdrian
November 24th, 2009, 02:23 PM
On other matters, thanks for the latest shots of David at work 234.

This is his camera:

http://www.walkercameras.com/XL_8x10.html

It's "only" £2200, and lenses typically cost around a grand.

If there was somewhere in Dubai that sold, and more importantly, could process, the film, I'd be sorely tempted.
Such old style photography has something very charming. Personally i'm not a (good) action photographer, most of my shots are with tripod and preparation. I started photography with DSLRs but i imagine it killed some of the feel of older techniques. And if every failed expose sets you back 40$ you will frame and meter with exquisite care :)

234sale
November 24th, 2009, 04:15 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2zp5c1u.jpg

moscowboy
November 24th, 2009, 04:23 PM
...

DennysAndrade
November 24th, 2009, 04:29 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2zp5c1u.jpg

No words.. (until next one) :lol:

gerald.d
November 24th, 2009, 04:31 PM
It was an AMAZING sunset tonight.

I've got the next 5 days off work, so sods law says the weather will be crap from now on :(

ZRH
November 24th, 2009, 04:35 PM
Is anything known about new year's eve/firework activities around burj dubai? Is it possible that they will have a "very soft" opening on Jan 1?

234sale
November 24th, 2009, 04:35 PM
It was an AMAZING sunset tonight.

I've got the next 5 days off work, so sods law says the weather will be crap from now on :(

I time lapsed the burj tonight for 30 minutes :)

Don't worry G,, it will only get better and better.

Day
http://i50.tinypic.com/2r6yvmh.jpg


Night
http://i45.tinypic.com/rbguxi.jpg

alexcheetah
November 24th, 2009, 04:47 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2zp5c1u.jpg

it's like a photoshop in real life! :lol:

234sale
November 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/dpbp5y.jpg

Imre
November 24th, 2009, 04:53 PM
24/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i49.tinypic.com/2rmy5om.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/r8cwtd.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2rqni46.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/14afvrs.jpg

234sale
November 24th, 2009, 05:02 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/2wg66hl.jpg

Imre
November 24th, 2009, 05:07 PM
24/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i48.tinypic.com/j17b6c.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/f3ygao.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2sai8zn.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/14wqgr7.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2lc69dx.jpg

HJ
November 24th, 2009, 06:12 PM
24/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i49.tinypic.com/2rmy5om.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/r8cwtd.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2rqni46.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/14afvrs.jpg
Imre...nice pics (again) :-).

Where did you take these (from the Palm Island?)

HJ

AltinD
November 24th, 2009, 06:23 PM
it's like a photoshop in real life! :lol:

Absolutely no compare with how it looked in real life :drool:


... yes I did saw it too, and thankfully didn't crashed to the vehicle(s) in front of me :lol:

Imre
November 24th, 2009, 06:41 PM
Imre...nice pics (again) :-).

Where did you take these (from the Palm Island?)

HJ

thanks,

yes, from the crescent of the Palm Jumeirah :)

Coinpeace
November 24th, 2009, 06:58 PM
woah... when did the height change confirmation happen? cool pics imre :) cant wait until my birthday and the soft opening :cheers:

Coinpeace
November 24th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Not sure if you missed this image that shows those 'light guns' -

http://i49.tinypic.com/154iudh.jpg

On other matters, thanks for the latest shots of David at work 234.

This is his camera:

http://www.walkercameras.com/XL_8x10.html

It's "only" £2200, and lenses typically cost around a grand.

If there was somewhere in Dubai that sold, and more importantly, could process, the film, I'd be sorely tempted.

woahh..... cool lights!!!! :nuts::nuts::nuts:

christos-greece
November 24th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Great photos by @234sale and @Imre

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/4127799852_8feb8d25f7_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindarg/4127799852/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2717/4126349109_2cd252306c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eventhestarsdie/4126349109/

gerald.d
November 24th, 2009, 07:20 PM
I time lapsed the burj tonight for 30 minutes :)

Don't worry G,, it will only get better and better.

Fancy a 5:30am start one morning over Eid?

|WTKI|
November 24th, 2009, 08:17 PM
1.- AWESOME VIEW! :banana: the tallest building in all the f*****g world!

2.- The Burj Dubai and the Yas Marina Circuit in Abu Dhabi are the best constructions that UAE has delivered to the world in this year!

3.- Someone has photos of the panoramic of Dubai watching from the last floor of the Burj Dubai?

:banana: Congrats UAE!

AvanGard
November 24th, 2009, 09:49 PM
What do we have here...

http://www.spike.com/video/vga-2009-mystery/3293856

a shooter game set in Dubai:lol::lol:.

You can see the Burj at the end of the video.

Library User
November 24th, 2009, 10:57 PM
Hi all.


My guess for the height to tip will be 824.6 meters. This makes an assumption on the beacon height and doesn't allow for any settling in case they don't actually measure. I hope the CTBUH does measure and I hope Emaar puts up a flagpole, lightning rod, or antenae to push this height up even further.

:cheers:

If Emaar added a flagpole, or whatever, would they not need new lights at the very top, just as the existing aircraft lights are at the top ?? It would not be so easy to do.

On the other hand, this could be a revenge against the guy who posted unauthorized video from the top - as that would not be from the final top any more. We shall see---;

Anyone know anything ??

Thank you

Library User
November 24th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Hi all.

The highest occupied level and number of levels are not so clear going by this.
Whether the mezzanines will be included is a question mark. Level 154 will be included surely as it covers the entire area of the level below . Also it is named as a seperate level and only its use is shown as a mezzanine in the plans. Now 158M, 160M1, 160M2,and 160M3 are another matter on 2 fronts.
1 - These are mechanical mezzanines and do have a smaller floorprint than the level below. It will be up to the CTBUH to decide if the difference in size warrants including them.
2 - By looking at the wording there may be some room to include levels and/or mezzanines above level 154 in the official count. Level 154 is the highest level occupied by tennants but the wording includes occupied by workers on a consistant basis. This may allow levels up to 160M3 to be included in the official count and in the height to the highest occupied level measure.
The plans levels count of 162 already allows for the 4 skipped levels, includes the 6 mezz. levels (which it should IMO), and does not include the concourse.

The official count could be anywhere from 158 to 163.
The height to the highest occupied level could be anywhere from level 154 - 580.5 meters to level 160M3 - 630.1 meters (from the concourse and assuming they measure up to the floor of those levels which they probably do). I kinda doubt all of the mezzanines will be considered as occupied on a consistant basis but that remains to be seen.



:cheers:

The plan posted some time ago showed the BO4/5/6 lifts going up to 154. This seems to be a very private space, but it is for people - important people.

The motors for the BO4/5/6 lifts were shown on 155Mezz, on Cul's diagrams, but--the video of BS3 does not show a stop for 155M or 158M. If those lift motors ever needed to be replaced, how would they get that done at 155M, if no lift access is available to move machines in or out - whereas, a lift is available for all other levels in the building that have elevator motors on them. This includes the Pega BS4 that can stop at the floor containing the motor for BS3.

Question is--just what is on these mezz levels that needs easy access, and what percentage of the main floor area below does the mezz cover ??

Would it be over 50%, or does it just cover a small area over the outside perimeter of the principal level. How about 160 M1/2/3 which make the entire level 160 group look like a high open atrium in pictures ??

I would think that the usage of the mezz levels, and whether they have lift access --as well as floor area -- would all factor into the CTBUH decisions on whether to count them as floors.

Comments ??

Thank you

SirAdrian
November 25th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Do we have the decimal place in the title because of the current dispute? We don't have one for other buildings. If you're going by feet, 2704ft is very close to 824m and i'd say that's precise enough for a building that size ;)

p.s. The new lighting is just awesome.

moscowboy
November 25th, 2009, 01:53 AM
24/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i48.tinypic.com/j17b6c.jpg



what is that triangular thing on the right side of the sail like hotel?

gerald.d
November 25th, 2009, 03:47 AM
^^ That's the Jumeirah Beach Hotel.

Imre
November 25th, 2009, 04:22 AM
Burj Dubai

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zd6w40.jpg

Uaarkson
November 25th, 2009, 05:39 AM
Damn, the ocean must be sizzling in Dubai.

WiGgLz01
November 25th, 2009, 05:54 AM
^^^absolutely marvelous shots there!!!

Fury
November 25th, 2009, 05:56 AM
Hi all.

If Emaar added a flagpole, or whatever, would they not need new lights at the very top, just as the existing aircraft lights are at the top ?? It would not be so easy to do.

On the other hand, this could be a revenge against the guy who posted unauthorized video from the top - as that would not be from the final top any more. We shall see---;

Anyone know anything ??

Thank you

Hi Library.

There probably won't be any addition at the top - it was just a thought. Perhaps a small flashing light on the top of any addition would suffice and leave the 3 big beacons where they are ? - naaa, probably not ...

The plan posted some time ago showed the BO4/5/6 lifts going up to 154. This seems to be a very private space, but it is for people - important people.

The motors for the BO4/5/6 lifts were shown on 155Mezz, on Cul's diagrams, but--the video of BS3 does not show a stop for 155M or 158M. If those lift motors ever needed to be replaced, how would they get that done at 155M, if no lift access is available to move machines in or out - whereas, a lift is available for all other levels in the building that have elevator motors on them. This includes the Pega BS4 that can stop at the floor containing the motor for BS3.

Question is--just what is on these mezz levels that needs easy access, and what percentage of the main floor area below does the mezz cover ??

Would it be over 50%, or does it just cover a small area over the outside perimeter of the principal level. How about 160 M1/2/3 which make the entire level 160 group look like a high open atrium in pictures ??

I would think that the usage of the mezz levels, and whether they have lift access --as well as floor area -- would all factor into the CTBUH decisions on whether to count them as floors.

Comments ??

Thank you

Levels 153 and 154 are reportedly for the Emaar chairman.

There looks to be machine rooms for three elevators on level 156 by the small drawing I have. I have nothing on 155 and 155 mezz

Here is 158 mezz. I have highlighted the floor area. It looks like access is by ladder only and that the stairwell and BS3 don't access it at all.
http://a.imagehost.org/0587/43_Level_158_Mezz_Tier_16.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/download/0587/43_Level_158_Mezz_Tier_16)

Here is 160mezz1. Only an opening in the middle - 40 % ?
http://a.imagehost.org/0416/46_Level_160_Mezz_1_Tier_17.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/download/0416/46_Level_160_Mezz_1_Tier_17)


Here is 160mezz2.
http://a.imagehost.org/0211/47_Level_160_Mezz_2_Tier_17.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/download/0211/47_Level_160_Mezz_2_Tier_17)

It kinda looks like 160 mezz3 is be the entire floorplate of tier 18 so that may be a good thing for calling it the highest occupied level.

I agree with you on the thoughts on the CTBUH decision on the highest level measure and number of levels. Size alone and consistant occupancy may not be the only factors.

:cheers:

ooh
November 25th, 2009, 08:07 AM
Is it just me who thinks that this is an awe inspiring building, but something that just looks utterly ridiculous?

The height, now finished and when in direct comparison to other "supertalls" surrounding it just seems ludicrous! Reminds me a bit of Taipei 101 in it's surroundings, just wrong...

I don't know, it just doesn't look right. That said, maybe once some of the other projects are completed at the 500m+ range, it'll start to fit in better.

HJ
November 25th, 2009, 08:07 AM
woahh..... cool lights!!!! :nuts::nuts::nuts:
Is this every night? Or just testing?

Looks awesome!

HJ

234sale
November 25th, 2009, 08:41 AM
JIU_5xvW0cY

moscowboy
November 25th, 2009, 09:36 AM
..

moscowboy
November 25th, 2009, 09:39 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/dpbp5y.jpg

Wow man. Now, this photo is worth a $million.

moscowboy
November 25th, 2009, 09:44 AM
may be the building was supposed to be completed on 8-8-8 (08/08/2008)

AltinD
November 25th, 2009, 09:50 AM
If you're having the pages set to display 5 posts, then this is the page no 888 of the thread.

rizalhakim
November 25th, 2009, 10:31 AM
interior pics plz

Huskies
November 25th, 2009, 10:41 AM
love those blueprint pics.. so this building is 200 floors but only 160 are habitable ? it has 40 ( !!!!! ) floors in the top filled with ... nothing !?!?!?!? has anyone posted section wievs of all tiers, where you can see elevators and stairwells ?


is it possible for this thread to be divided into several threads ? it is so huge its impossible to find what youre looking for .

like a bluprint / section plan section , a interior pic section , an exterior pic sectionj and so on .. ?

Old Town Resident
November 25th, 2009, 10:59 AM
If Emaar added a flagpole, or whatever, would they not need new lights at the very top, just as the existing aircraft lights are at the top ?? It would not be so easy to do.

On the other hand, this could be a revenge against the guy who posted unauthorized video from the top - as that would not be from the final top any more. We shall see---;

Anyone know anything ??

Thank you

"Anyone know anything"?

I know that every property sold by Emaar in the Downtown Burj Dubai sq/km ended in the price AED 888, ie Dirhams 5,600,888.00.

I know that the Chairman of Emaar has a fav number 888.

The black roller going about the old town today had a plate H 888

For me its 824.6 or there is a conspiracy theory at play.

And as Altin stated........this is page 888

Old Town Resident
November 25th, 2009, 11:09 AM
"Anyone know anything"?

I know that every property sold by Emaar in the Downtown Burj Dubai sq/km ended in the price AED 888, ie Dirhams 5,600,888.00.

I know that the Chairman of Emaar has a fav number 888.

The black roller going about the old town today had a plate H 888

For me its 824.6 or there is a conspiracy theory at play.

And as Altin stated........this is page 888

And I hear that hotel reservations are.......My Reservations 24 Hour Service 1-888-5 STAR-11

Oh and is this the glass plated floor leading to the observation deck?

http://i45.tinypic.com/35cigs1.jpg

Dark Matter
November 25th, 2009, 11:25 AM
love those blueprint pics.. so this building is 200 floors but only 160 are habitable ? it has 40 ( !!!!! ) floors in the top filled with ... nothing !?!?!?!? has anyone posted section wievs of all tiers, where you can see elevators and stairwells ?


is it possible for this thread to be divided into several threads ? it is so huge its impossible to find what youre looking for .

like a bluprint / section plan section , a interior pic section , an exterior pic sectionj and so on .. ?

They are mechanical floors. Plus they are too small to have anyone live and or work in there anyway.

AltinD
November 25th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Last night at the Airport there was a guy with a board saying "ARMANI Hotel & Resorts". Some lady arrived and was picked up by him, probably a recruited staff member.

b2corp
November 25th, 2009, 11:52 AM
awesome thread...thanks

234sale
November 25th, 2009, 12:07 PM
_c08avDVO74

Only 25 seconds long ;) but really 25minutes

city_thing
November 25th, 2009, 12:56 PM
EDIT: oops, wrong picture.

AltinD
November 25th, 2009, 04:43 PM
awesome thread...thanks

Kindly F@CK OFF! :)

Imre
November 25th, 2009, 04:45 PM
25/November/2009

Burj Dubai , amazing clear weather today :)

http://i50.tinypic.com/28ind3k.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/sb813s.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2zi7lz5.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/mm6fz8.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2me7jb4.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/1exhfc.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/29dg5lj.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/1z6f7h4.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2iibgk3.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/25hk4f6.jpg

234sale
November 25th, 2009, 04:54 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/10ymb95.jpg

Imre
November 25th, 2009, 04:55 PM
25/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i48.tinypic.com/30bpj43.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/xp1pir.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/243l1yo.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2re1ggn.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/e0hlwx.jpg

Old Town Resident
November 25th, 2009, 04:56 PM
Fantastic, best yet strobe light show tonite.:cheers:

It gets better each day.

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/013-2.jpg

Imre
November 25th, 2009, 05:00 PM
25/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i47.tinypic.com/15yaj29.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2me8vns.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/289lutg.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/29dbuwn.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/255qbsn.jpg

TopWatch
November 25th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Thanks for the pics Imre!!
Good Job!!

Saludos!!

Coinpeace
November 25th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Fantastic, best yet strobe light show tonite.:cheers:

It gets better each day.

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo178/jmcmen/013-2.jpg

... wow! :nuts:

Coinpeace
November 25th, 2009, 06:34 PM
loving the time elapses 234 :)

Imre
November 25th, 2009, 07:04 PM
25/November/2009

Burj Dubai

http://i46.tinypic.com/2n84zv9.jpg

christos-greece
November 25th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Fantastic, best yet strobe light show tonite
Awesome lightened Burj Dubai :)

Around Burj Dubai:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2499/4132841327_af39301b3a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignimbrite/4132841327/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4133604478_bacda34fc4_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignimbrite/4133604478/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2778/4132818745_6ce8abb335_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignimbrite/4132818745/

Old Town Resident
November 25th, 2009, 07:18 PM
I am sitting here waiting on a repeat of the strobe show which I would think will be a rehersal for the 2nd December (National Day) and the soft opening on 4th January.

WOW, it was like the milky way opening up with the sparkling strobes on the spire, and syncronised lighting on each tier level.

The only obvious way to show this spectacle is by video, but since I got it the show has stopped.

Maybe soon

The Engineer
November 25th, 2009, 07:43 PM
It looks like the paintcolor of the latest part of the lake is different from the one in the lake that is already filled. Is it because of the water or are they changing the color?


http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/DSC_0277_qa.jpg


Awesome lightened Burj Dubai :)
Around Burj Dubai:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2499/4132841327_af39301b3a_b.jpg

Dubai Skyscraper
November 25th, 2009, 07:46 PM
^^^^
i think its because of the sand at the ground of the lake..

Old Town Resident
November 25th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Link to a crappy video quality vid of the BD strobes.

Feel free to edit/rotate/whatever to make viewable.

Software to rotate advice would be appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdZDjbSyEnQ

Imre
November 25th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Burj Dubai today photos

http://i47.tinypic.com/2j44yee.jpg (http://picasaweb.google.com/imresolt/BurjDubaiConstructionPhotos25November2009#)
Click on the pic to see the full set (http://picasaweb.google.com/imresolt/BurjDubaiConstructionPhotos25November2009#)

Coinpeace
November 26th, 2009, 12:17 AM
POST NUMBER 22222!!!!!! I WIN!!! :lol:

TXSkyWatcher
November 26th, 2009, 12:57 AM
^^^^
i think its because of the sand at the ground of the lake..

Blue sand huh? It's colored differently for a reason, but I can only hazard a guess that it is done to simulate depth.

Does anyone know the real reason?

moscowboy
November 26th, 2009, 01:39 AM
Awesome lightened Burj Dubai :)

Around Burj Dubai:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4133604478_bacda34fc4_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignimbrite/4133604478/



Fantastic site photos. Gives more details than any other photos so far.
There are so many holes in the ground around BD. I am sure these holes were supposed to be buildings, before the financial crash (and cancellation of buildings).

Coinpeace
November 26th, 2009, 01:50 AM
Fantastic site photos. Gives more details than any other photos so far.
There are so many holes in the ground around BD. I am sure these holes were supposed to be buildings, before the crash.

wait? what crash????

WiGgLz01
November 26th, 2009, 02:41 AM
wait? what crash????

stock market crash im guessing?

Abdallah K.
November 26th, 2009, 02:43 AM
_c08avDVO74

Only 25 seconds long ;) but really 25minutes

Really cool time lapse video :cheers:

Old Town Resident
November 26th, 2009, 06:21 AM
Fantastic site photos. Gives more details than any other photos so far.
There are so many holes in the ground around BD. I am sure these holes were supposed to be buildings, before the crash.

This about sums up Emaar and their management ability in the above picture.

Lets landscape the BD grounds, build a park, flood the lake, but leave portakins and all the other shit in full view of the resident.

Just pretty much the same in The Old Town where rubbish dumps border residents living and Emaaar think this is acceptable.

Its easy enough to drop ones standards to that of a Delhi rubbish dump in one easy go if the management are allowed this mentality.

Remember its great to look at the BD, but imagine wakening up in the Armani hotel and having to look out your window at this crap.

It would be the last visit for many, and I would guess why Dubai is headline news this morning:ohno:

Fury
November 26th, 2009, 06:50 AM
Hi all.

Great updates guys.

Nice find Christos - those are some nice site aerials br ignimbrite.
I finally clued in as to what the flat area is on this side of the pool annex in his shots. It's going to be the tennis courts. Almost the only thing from the original site render that is still there.

Hi OTR.

Please elaborate on what you are talking about in the shots.
Portakins ?
Also where are the rubbish dumps you refer to in the Old Town and where would you like to see them ? How does garbage pick up work in Dubai ? Do you walk it to a dumpster or leave it at the curb for pick up ?
I'm interested to hear the bad along with all of the good.

Thanks OTR.

:cheers:

VRS
November 26th, 2009, 08:10 AM
amazing picture...

gerald.d
November 26th, 2009, 08:37 AM
A bit of fun before I set off to buy another darn disk drive for this new PC...

Image of the Burj Dubai created from 10,000 images of the Burj Dubai (about 1,000 separate images each used 10 times) -

http://dxbae.com/images/BD10KMosaic_1k.jpg

200 MegaPixel version of the above that you can zoom into -

http://www.dxbae.com/BDMosaic10k.html

(just uploading this now)

Created with AndreaMosaic (http://www.andreaplanet.com/andreamosaic/)

Wuhy_9
November 26th, 2009, 10:23 AM
A bit of fun before I set off to buy another darn disk drive for this new PC...

Image of the Burj Dubai created from 10,000 images of the Burj Dubai (about 1,000 separate images each used 10 times) -

http://dxbae.com/images/BD10KMosaic_1k.jpg

200 MegaPixel version of the above that you can zoom into -

http://www.dxbae.com/BDMosaic10k.html

(just uploading this now)

Created with AndreaMosaic (http://www.andreaplanet.com/andreamosaic/)

Amazing:eek2::eek2:

ElUsurpador
November 26th, 2009, 10:24 AM
^^ wow this is really amazing

Old Town Resident
November 26th, 2009, 11:18 AM
Hi all.

Great updates guys.

Nice find Christos - those are some nice site aerials br ignimbrite.
I finally clued in as to what the flat area is on this side of the pool annex in his shots. It's going to be the tennis courts. Almost the only thing from the original site render that is still there.

Hi OTR.

Please elaborate on what you are talking about in the shots.
Portakins ?
Also where are the rubbish dumps you refer to in the Old Town and where would you like to see them ? How does garbage pick up work in Dubai ? Do you walk it to a dumpster or leave it at the curb for pick up ?
I'm interested to hear the bad along with all of the good.

Thanks OTR.

:cheers:

Hi Fury,

Sorry that should have spelled portakabin, or what is probably known as a temporary site office.

However thats not the problem as the standards of most of the workforce is to drop the junk and never pick it up. I guess thats down to standards.

My main gripe is what they are dumping around the Old Town perimeter which is an absolute eyesore, in addition to being a breeding ground for flies etc.

This is garbage from all over downtown and although consists of unused site materials in the majority, the odd piece of human shit makes its way into the fold.

Talking to Emaar....they back it onto their subcontractors, where the sub contractors apply the same standard as a Delhi rubbish dump.

Moan over

King of Construction
November 26th, 2009, 03:24 PM
Big article about Dubai and Burj Dubai on CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/11/26/ft.dubai.markets.ft/index.html

234sale
November 26th, 2009, 03:45 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/6jdkit.jpg

Oasis-Bangkok
November 26th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Burj Dubai@Sim City 3000

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/vocasla/SC3K-SC4/BurjDubai.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/vocasla/SC3K-SC4/BurjDubai5.jpg

And this Burj Dubai@Sim City 4

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4977/bdsim147td.jpg

http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq193/haljackey2/Downtown-Feb192331223699457.jpg

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1007/ingame.jpg

Slugbelch
November 26th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Hi Imre/Fury. Hope to see you there next year.

Fury, I'm trying to get you there too, but E***R politics is very difficult in the approval process dept. More details in your PM later.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS

Oasis-Bangkok
November 26th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Burj Dubai Lego

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9999_08_09_2009_b.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9998_08_14_2009_b.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9997_08_22_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9997_08_22_2009_c.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9996_08_29_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9995_09_01_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9995_09_01_2009_c.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9994_09_03_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9993_09_10_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9992_09_13_2009_b.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9991_10_12_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9990_11_07_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9989_11_13_2009_a.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/srezkall/skyscrapers/burjdubai/construction/9989_11_13_2009_e.jpg

Krattle
November 26th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Read the two articles below: Dubai default fears spook investors


Dubai is in huge trouble. It's defaulting on its $80 billion debt.



http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/46b4065c-d9f7-11de-b2d5-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/554a5c30-da50-11de-9c32-00144feabdc0.html

Old Town Resident
November 26th, 2009, 05:37 PM
Will they stop construction of the BD?

Krattle
November 26th, 2009, 05:39 PM
I doubt it at this phase of construction, but all the articles I read spoke of canceling some of the artificial islands. It sounded like they were talking about The World.