awesome detail.....

i havent checked this for time


the cladding is looking swish

Now Burj Dubai is growing up again after long time of not seeing any other new floor.

^I agree!

What a wonderfull building!

Something i mocked up when i was bored. lol

http://i3.tinypic.com/7xyaipc.jpg

Something i mocked up when i was bored. lol

http://i3.tinypic.com/7xyaipc.jpg

That's not quite right by the way, tiers 27-30 are pinnacles and are circular, they don't stick out like normal tiers.

does anybody have some horizontal and vertical details of the cladding?

Here's a quick diagram I made comparing the floor space in the upper levels of the Burj with a relatively tall residential tower under construction in Atlanta, the Mansion. In the Mansion, each floor is a separate unit with plenty of floor space, so I'd imagine the Burj is actually pretty roomy up at that level.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/2098879280_cbef3d0a2f_o.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v156/2/92/22608885/n22608885_33077737_445.jpg
2nd image by sabino86 at SSP


This is what I keep saying as well... I more than believe that my 950sq ft apt. could EASILY fit into these upper levels (not including the core itself) with room to spare.. I think these upper floors (155 and up) are still between 1000-1200 sq ft. If they wanted to pull a big surprise on everyone, they could continue building offices into the spire quite easily... maybe that old elevator pic from 2 years ago (showing buttons in the 190's) wont be so far fetched after all...

^the passenger lifts only go to lev162.there will be no suprises.lol above 162 is accessed by stairs. not habitable.

if you told someone that Burj D is only up to tier16 out of 30, they would freak out. its ob deck is down at tier11.
maybe BurjDs tiers can be used as a measure tool?
What tier is you city;'s tallest at? in sydney, its tallest bldg is tier 6 or tallest structure at tier8. lol

and here is tier system with heights (up to roof-tier18)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3073/burjdtiersvi2.jpg

That's not quite right by the way, tiers 27-30 are pinnacles and are circular, they don't stick out like normal tiers.

yeh i noticed that, oh well. near enough! lol. i was doing it from memory. =/

great diagram culwulla.i thought the tip wouldnt be as thick as 1.2meters.

Great stuff Cul and Ember!

Let's see... Marriott Renaissance Center tower is just under 730' (221m) so that pegs Detroit at between Tiers 5 and 6. Now if we had a "Tier 5-1/2" lol...

LA is tier number 8

Dubai is fast-growing city. Skyscraper's spring up like mushroom. It's amazing!

Well, and here comes the next "metropolis" ;)... Freiburg/Germany:
...a bit above tier 1 (BD's toe) by highrises
...not far from tier 3 (BD's calf) by churches
...but at tier 25 (BD's pointed hat) by funiculars (entirely located on the municipal area) :D

Imre,

Is it possiable to see the Burj Dubai from the intersection of E77 & Dubia-Al Ain Rd ?

Cheers,

Tom

And then loose it all, along with the prestige, if some moron fall off.

:lol:

Imre,

Is it possiable to see the Burj Dubai from the intersection of E77 & Dubia-Al Ain Rd ?

Cheers,

Tom

If the weather is clear , yes. I have seen from Sharjah , Ajman as well.

If the weather is clear , yes. I have seen from Sharjah , Ajman as well.

Cool!

Thanks Imre

If the weather is clear , yes. I have seen from Sharjah , Ajman as well.

Really? How far are those cities from Dubai? If you can see the mighty structure from there, can you please take a few pictures from these locations when you get the time to travel to these places. That would be i'm sure an amazing sight for the whole ssc community to see. thanks in advance

Does anybody know exactly how much floor space the very top floor will have and what it will be used for?
Also will there be any elevators that go to the very top floor or will it be stairs??

It's taking a long time for them to start the steel construction :( ....

Check the pics, the steel has already started.

Check the pics, the steel has already started.

Yes, but only a little bit. We can't see a steel-floor yet...

Not yet, but steel has started. It will go faster when they build one or 2 floors I think.

How long do you think it will take for another tower to over take this one

This morning I could see that three vertical steel sections were joined together by horizontal beams, creating a partial layout of the first steel floor, that I may say, seamed much taller then the concrete one beneath by at least 50%. :cheers:

I don't know if anyone noticed but if you count the cranes on top, the Burj Dubai is now the tallest man-made structure ever. Think about that - those crane operators are sitting higher than any human has ever sat - apart from planes of course.

Really? How far are those cities from Dubai? If you can see the mighty structure from there, can you please take a few pictures from these locations when you get the time to travel to these places. That would be i'm sure an amazing sight for the whole ssc community to see. thanks in advance

Sharjah is actually adjacent to Dubai and Ajman is very close to Sharjah (on the other side). Since Dubai is very spread out along the coast, there might be places in Dubai further away from Burj Dubai then some parts of Ajman are. :D

L156 is 6.4m high, opposed to L155 and below which were 4.8m high.

I don't know if anyone noticed but if you count the cranes on top, the Burj Dubai is now the tallest man-made structure ever. Think about that - those crane operators are sitting higher than any human has ever sat - apart from planes of course.

many have noticed that already ^^. the cranes are probably already above 630m but not sure if they reaching already 646m

btw....some shots from today:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2355/2105455735_acbe0bbc01_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/2105399107_d2290c0025_o.jpg

^^

Very nice ZZ-II. I love the picture with the haze in the evening or is that morning. The shot looks east/northeast right?

L156 is 6.4m high, opposed to L155 and below which were 4.8m high.The first steel has been measured as 8.3m above the highest concrete which I find strange as the first steel floor is supposed to be 6m in height. The final approved blueprints that I have were finished and pre-assembly steel construction started 4 months ago so I'm a bit confused now. I'm thinking maybe the horizontal transoms will be attached below the uppermost steel sections, maybe as a fixing point for the next mullion beams and diagonal trusses. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out?

I've been told my floor (L59) will start receiving it's curtain walling in about 2 weeks....which will make a nice Christmas present! :banana:

^really?
lev155 was only 3.2m high, also lev155mez was just 3.2m.
lev156 will be double that height at 6.4m as will lev157. then lev158 & lev158mez will be back to 3.2m high.

in my diagram ive just rounded figures
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9710/burjtopdetailvg4.jpg

Does anybody know exactly how much floor space the very top floor will have and what it will be used for?
Also will there be any elevators that go to the very top floor or will it be stairs??

The highest floor which elevators go up to is Lev 162 according to Culwulla's plans. Lev 163 to the Pinnacle will only be accessible by stairs.

The first steel has been measured as 8.3m above the highest concrete

Maybe yes. First steel is higher than the L156 will be as it has mountings for L157. Hope to see some up to date blueprints for cristmas:)

Really? How far are those cities from Dubai?

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Ajman,+United+Arab+Emirates&sll=25.216745,55.345688&sspn=0.467149,1.142578&ie=UTF8&ll=25.217987,55.495377&spn=0.467144,1.142578&z=11&om=1) Ajman, Dubai

Great Pics ZZ-II. I love the first one alot!

edit see below

Anybody know the expected energy consumption?

Richard,

It has been revealed that the top residential floor for the Chicago Spire will be at 568 Meters.

^really that far down? ok

so what floor does 568m equate to?
143?
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8831/burjtopdetailtw1.jpg

^really that far down? ok

I was surprised too. The information originally came from the official site, I believe, and was posted in the CS thread around the end of September. They did not say what floor it was on. What they actually said was that every penthouse would have a direct elevator line from the ground to the floor, and that the longest elevator would be 568m. Taken together, of course, this gives us the highest residential floor.

^yes thats impressive longest lift run. The burj Dubai will have to settle for 2nd longest lift run with the lev139/514m length.

The exact height of the CS top floor would be 1865 ft or 568.6m. It is not clear as Hollie said what that top floor would be.

I wonder if the steel section will be clad with glass or reflective metal sheeting. I have a feeling this was mentioned before but I can't find the answer. This is just me dreaming but it would be cool to have an exclusive bar somewhere in the middle of the steel section with glass all around you.

The exact height of the CS top floor would be 1865 ft or 568.6m. It is not clear as Hollie said what that top floor would be.

I would never want do maintainence work in that lift shaft, especially at the top.

I would never want do maintainence work in that lift shaft, especially at the top.


Or get stuck like James Bond, Bruce Willis, Arnie etc and have to climb out of the top of it!:ohno:

Very nice ZZ-II. I love the picture with the haze in the evening or is that morning. The shot looks east/northeast right?

The picture is looking southwest. The camera is next to/above Trade Centre Roundabout and looking toward Dubai Marina and Abu Dhabi.

^really?
lev155 was only 3.2m high, also lev155mez was just 3.2m.
lev156 will be double that height at 6.4m as will lev157. then lev158 & lev158mez will be back to 3.2m high.

in my diagram ive just rounded figures
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9710/burjtopdetailvg4.jpg

Yeah, that's correct I have 6.4m too, not 8.3m, but like urban.kovak said maybe it includes the mountings for the next level too?

- false post - to be deleted

Today ( they've started with cladding above the 3rd mechs :) ):
highres:http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2108232581&size=o

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2055/2108232581_82ed6d58d7_b.jpg

I would never want do maintainence work in that lift shaft, especially at the top.
I dont see the difference between 200m shafts and 500m shafts. If you fall, you are dead in either kind.

btw, Culwulla, Warsawa? Thats half way between the real name and the eglish name, :lol:

This way all the cladding on the mech floors will be finished early then the regular floors.

The lack of growth recently certainly made this thread go slower. People will be surprised when they check the thread after the steel goes up in full speed.

Today ( they've started with cladding above the 3rd mechs :) ):

Awesome, I've been wondering when they would start this. Great to see.

This way all the cladding on the mech floors will be finished early then the regular floors.

The lack of growth recently certainly made this thread go slower. People will be surprised when they check the thread after the steel goes up in full speed.

The steel does seem to be taking a while, but then i looked at the freedom tower thread....

Great found ZZ-II, it will look much nicer when fully cladded. :cheers: to new glass:) I hope we will get an update from Imre tomorrow.

The steel does seem to be taking a while, but then i looked at the freedom tower thread....

only the beginning, after the first few floors it will be really fast

I love skyscrapers

this one construct by KOREA SAMSUNG

this one construct by KOREA SAMSUNG

REALLY?????????????????????????????????

REALLY?????????????????????????????????

C'mon, that's either his 1st or 2nd post.

Is it the same samsung group that make the mobile phones and T.V`s or are they different companies??

^^ yes

Korea's traditional business map is made of huge family owned conglomerates, and the biggest are: Huyndai, Samsung, Daewoo and LG. They are multi-industry groups with interest in many different fields, from manufacturing to finance and services.

However now the groups are splitting up (process started many years ago) and most of them are public traded companies.

Bottom line is that Samsung Construction might not be neccessarily related anymore to Samsung Electronics, as Samsung Auto is now owned by Renault or Daewoo Auto by GM. However I think that in case of Samsung, both divisions report to the same Chairman.

I dont see the difference between 200m shafts and 500m shafts. If you fall, you are dead in either kind.


Light up a huge wooden stick and throw it down the dark shaft... you will see the differences.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/2105399107_d2290c0025_o.jpg

damn, a hundred more of this baby, dubai's gonna look like coruscant! :eek:

What are the 43 "plant / mechanical" floors for?

^not all of them are plant/mechanical. actually most will be empty spaces accessible by stairs. Above lev162 is actually described as the "spire" even though it has levels and could be inhabitable. above tier27 is the "pinnacle" which most of us call a spire.
Burj Dubai is basically a 600m concrete skyscraper topped with a 150m enclosed steel structure crowned with a 50m spire.

Cladding starts above 3rd mechanical floor and new water at the Burj bridge.

http://i4.tinypic.com/86fyljs.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/6lw4gfd.jpg

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/37159/2003626962528881926_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003626962528881926)

http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/38094/2003600267554385988_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003600267554385988)

http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/35919/2003602262436437040_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003602262436437040)

http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/34990/2003698248201430935_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003698248201430935)

beautifull shots :applause: thanks :)

look great.... When ti will be ready?

2009-2010

o.0

Exactly how long the construction will last?
Since when are working on this building?

Only god knows how long it will last, maybe there will be some complications that will slow it down... We'll see...

BTW: Read the signature rules EloyBr...

btw....some shots from today:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2355/2105455735_acbe0bbc01_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/2105399107_d2290c0025_o.jpg

nice angle there bro...:cheers:

14/December/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1171/imresolt26di0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5229/imresolt48ny5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8391/imresolt28pr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


top section

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6974/imresolt01hl8.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt01hl8.jpg)http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9126/imresolt02ev0.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt02ev0.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5208/imresolt03fb4.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt03fb4.jpg)http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/707/imresolt20fe1.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt20fe1.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/172/imresolt24sd9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt24sd9.jpg)http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/323/imresolt25hs2.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt25hs2.jpg)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4078/imresolt32as6.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt32as6.jpg)http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5789/imresolt33dw7.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt33dw7.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6255/imresolt35jo5.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt35jo5.jpg)http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/338/imresolt42oo2.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt42oo2.jpg)


cladding

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5166/imresolt09rj9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt09rj9.jpg)http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5314/imresolt11im7.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt11im7.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9578/imresolt12gy0.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt12gy0.jpg)http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9986/imresolt14ka0.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt14ka0.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7913/imresolt27ku3.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt27ku3.jpg)http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2371/imresolt50th9.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt50th9.jpg)

different sides

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3441/imresolt05yl5.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt05yl5.jpg)http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1365/imresolt08gq2.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt08gq2.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8596/imresolt10de1.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt10de1.jpg)http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9416/imresolt13ry4.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt13ry4.jpg)http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6439/imresolt15qe7.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt15qe7.jpg)http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/91/imresolt22xt9.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt22xt9.jpg)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2258/imresolt31bg4.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt31bg4.jpg)http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3168/imresolt39mx6.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt39mx6.jpg)http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8327/imresolt46yq1.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt46yq1.jpg)

with Teddy

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8571/imresolt43nv3.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt43nv3.jpg)http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/342/imresolt44qc0.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt44qc0.jpg)http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8121/imresolt45ak5.th.jpg (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt45ak5.jpg)

niceeee :D

14/December/2007

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/338/imresolt42oo2.th.jpg

Burj Dubai


I'll use this often for the question "How are the cranes attached to the building" fantastic shots - that must be a serious lens.

14/December/2007

Burj Dubai


with Teddy

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8571/imresolt43nv3.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt43nv3.jpg)http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/342/imresolt44qc0.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt44qc0.jpg)http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8121/imresolt45ak5.th.jpg (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt45ak5.jpg)

teddy is back... :banana:

Only god knows how long it will last, maybe there will be some complications that will slow it down... We'll see...

BTW: Read the signature rules EloyBr...

Well, that's true... God Knows...

BTW: Should i change my signature??? What's wrong with it...?

Well, that's true... God Knows...

BTW: Should i change my signature??? What's wrong with it...?

You had too big font in it and signature is max. 5 lines, you had like 15...

But back to BD. :)

thx for the updates Imre and OTR :)

You had too big font in it and signature is max. 5 lines, you had like 15...

But back to BD. :)

Thanks for say it...

BTW, Who's funding this project? Where the funds come?

More cladding and more steel! Fantastic!

EXCELENTS PHOTOS IMRE.
VERY NICE.
:banana::banana::banana:

Next level of cladding. :cheers: Terrific! Getting a feeling of the final look now - and looking better than in the renderings! Especially close--up!

teddy is back... :banana:

The Teddy shall remain nameless...........

Nice pics imre and old town resident!!

Realy quality stuff :D

Man i cant believe that this building is already touching the final heights off the CS and still goes up like 200 M+!!

Cheers :cheers2:

Amazing pics.. thanx teddy.. :D

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1171/imresolt26di0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Think anyone's crazy enough to run and jump against that netting on the inside?

Great pictures. Can really see the steelwork on the closeups of the crane's base.
And yay for teddy!

look great.... When ti will be ready?

If all goes to plan, then construction should conclude by the end of Dec 2008 and the tower will be ready for occupants by Sept 2009.

Lets keep fingers cross for no delays but maybe some surprises:banana:

Nice update too Imre (as always). Good to see the steel section taking shape and mechanical floor cladding commencing. Now, On with the Burj!!

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3867/plt2aq6.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plt2aq6.jpg)

Hope I can find one of these in recognition of your awesomeness :cheers:!

When will this surpass the world's tallest structure,and actually top out at it's final height? Any ideas?

When will this surpass the world's tallest structure,and actually top out at it's final height? Any ideas?

The two cranes already surpass the Warsaw Mast and the tower itself will top out late next year.

The Teddy shall remain nameless...........
Really?
I'll bear it in mind forevermore as Bear Dubai. :hug:
Or is this name improper due to an ambiguity? "Bear" could be considered as a bad omen in financial issues. So an alternative would be "Teddy-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" :devil:. But I prefer "Bear Dubai", and Burj Dubai will surely succeed on the market anyhow... :colgate:

The two cranes already surpass the Warsaw Mast

So the tops of the cranes are above the magic 646.38 metres? Really impressive. I saw this mast when I was a little kid while it was standing in 1990 and it was an incredible height.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3867/plt2aq6.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plt2aq6.jpg)

Hope I can find one of these in recognition of your awesomeness :cheers:!

Thanks PwnedByASkyscraper,
Hey, I used your pic to make this on cafepress.com ;)

Are you OK with it ?
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7259/image1fd9.jpg

I didn't order yet:
Maybe a nice idea may be to set a producer account for Imre on cafepress, so as the small profits from our t-shirts go to support him.

Anyone wanting some ? I'd wear this. A nice worldwide private message ;).

Vincent.

holy shit ! Here we go again...

Hey guys, I really appreciate Imre's work and I just love his pictures but please don't turn this thread into some Imre's Fanclub thread... ;)

^^
yes , this is the Burj Dubai thread:)

15/December/2007

Burj Dubai

quality is not good, it was dark and my friend was driving too fast:)

good progress of the steel section



http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6820/imresolt30vf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6830/imresolt33iu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

from the Madinat Jumeirah

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4864/imresolt24zb6.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt24zb6.jpg)

from the Mall of the Emirates

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/286/imresolt25yb8.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt25yb8.jpg)

from the SZR

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5314/imresolt26pd2.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt26pd2.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6127/imresolt28wz1.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt28wz1.jpg)http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/2994/imresolt31gi8.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt31gi8.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6965/imresolt32bw0.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt32bw0.jpg)http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7363/imresolt35gb4.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt35gb4.jpg)

from the Floating Bridge

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3756/imresolt56ts0.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt56ts0.jpg)

wow, it has already speed up

It is absolutely great to finally see the the steel section growing!

can they reach 600m by the end of the year?

they need 8m to 600m and the year has 16 days left....so i think its possiblke...they need to errect just another beam and it is 600m tall.

steel does not look thick?

hope its strong

Wow, almost 600 m.

Very impressive !!!

steel does not look thick?

hope its strong

No need to worry. Steel is one of the strongest materials on earth, it's even way stronger than concrete. Normal steel can handle a load of 235 N/mm2 while normal concrete (C28/35) can handle only 21 N/mm2. Maybe they'll use extra strong steel for the spire which can take loads of 435 N/mm2.
small note: 10N is about 1kg.

they need 8m to 600m and the year has 16 days left....so i think its possiblke...they need to errect just another beam and it is 600m tall.

There's a public holiday next week and the goverment offices will be closed for 3 (working) days, I don't know how many days off will get the BD construction sites though.

The first steel beams used, seams to have been supplied by Nippon Steel, the rest is from Arcelor/Mittal.

Looks like quite massive beams, maybe 800 / 900 mm. thick. And you don't know what the thickness of the steel is.. Maybe 40, 50 or 60 mm. or something :O
:)

i see the steelwork is growing. its moving at quite a rate.

It almost looks like they are putting up some cladding above the fourth mechanicals. Can anyone who saw it in person comment?

where do you see cladding there?

It almost looks like they are putting up some cladding above the fourth mechanicals. Can anyone who saw it in person comment?

Hollie; Nothing on the cladding front yet at any level above 4th mechanical.

I think some people are becoming a bit obsessed with Imre?
Also that steel went up seriously fast! Thinking about it though this also happened on the SWFC.

It almost looks like they are putting up some cladding above the fourth mechanicals. Can anyone who saw it in person comment?

Would that be the 76th (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1171/imresolt26di0.jpg) floor perhaps? :dunno:

I believe hollie meant the new cladding above the 3rd mechs :lol:

I believe hollie meant the new cladding above the 3rd mechs :lol:

Come on, I'm not quite stupid enough to not know the difference between the third and fourth mechs :lol: Of course everyone knows about the new above third.

I was talking about this

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6849/cropim1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

to my eyes, I could almost convince myself that there were maybe 3 windows there and a fourth being lowered into place, but looking more, I think not...it's too small to be windows, plus OTR says nothing happening there. :cheers:

I think some people are becoming a bit obsessed with Imre?
Also that steel went up seriously fast! Thinking about it though this also happened on the SWFC.

He he, I was just kidding and got a little carried away. And for the steel, if you've got a few thousand workers on site it's bound to happen.

Seeing that steel grow soothes my soul :D

nice shots. ive calculated by scaling crane arm, that tip of crane is now 660m.easily highest thing made by man.(above grd).

Hi all.

Imre's excelent shots show level 156 at 6.4 meters. Looks like they are keeping true to the plan. The vertical bits do look approx 8 meters as mentioned a few pages back by Skytower but the horizontal bits look like 6.4 as they are supposed to be.

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/37598/2002574377703763768_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002574377703763768)

Levels 139 to 154 are 4.8 meters. 155 and 155 Mezz. are 6.4 ( 3.2 each ). Then 156 ( the first steel level )at 6.4 meters. Here is the next few levels.

http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/37854/2002607753491139787_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002607753491139787)

This thing is awesome. :cheers:

why didn't they get the glass facade done along with the building getting taller and taller. it is much easier to do that while the cranes are still there, right?

Come on, I'm not quite stupid enough to not know the difference between the third and fourth mechs :lol: Of course everyone knows about the new above third.

I was talking about this

to my eyes, I could almost convince myself that there were maybe 3 windows there and a fourth being lowered into place, but looking more, I think not...it's too small to be windows, plus OTR says nothing happening there. :cheers:

i knew what you mean, i only made a joke :). i also saw that bright point just above the 4th mechs. :)

why didn't they get the glass facade done along with the building getting taller and taller. it is much easier to do that while the cranes are still there, right?

That was the plan untill the Swiss contractor who was supposed to do it went bust and the Europe-sourced glass and cladding falied the tests continuously and the developer was forced to look elsewhere (China and UAE), to replace both the materials and the contractor. :ohno:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6830/imresolt33iu1.jpg

Will the side of the building where the crane is be made from steel when the cranes removed or concrete??

^^ There will be concrete platforms as the ones on the other 2 sides of the concrete part.

wa.....what a beautiful building....

will the steel go up striaght or will it start to taper inwards?

the steel-structure will have many setbacks :)

i hope the join between the concrete and steel is seemless. as opposed to there being a slight indentation in the cladding.

Today from flickr (T. Al Nakib)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/2118493666_02cbd20ce7_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2362/2118493768_b89496e8eb_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2291/2118493874_8e552c28be_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2303/2118493572_cda7f89f95_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2012/2117717801_cb2118eb88_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/2118494344_6b79d45993_o.jpg

couple of weeks old but good.
doesnt look like a city on planet earth?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2126/2117744931_569a8c947b_b.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2284/2118533378_2a0d2ccd2d_b.jpg


mathiasapitz/flickr
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7863/2117291813b08b8a5090ooe1.jpg

^^ whoaaaaa the first pic looks so stunning!!!!! :eek2:

couple of weeks old but good.
doesnt look like a city on planet earth?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2126/2117744931_569a8c947b_b.jpg



Is that a real or man-made river? What is the name of it?

^^
Dubai Creek

Is that a real or man-made river? What is the name of it?

it lookS real to me.... but it's dubai... i dunno what to think... lol :dunno:

Dubai Creek is a natural sea-water inlet.

I love how everyone assumes any feature in Dubai---even rivers---is man-made.

Cladding and steelwork progress 18th December. Although it’s the Eid holiday, work still goes on.

http://i1.tinypic.com/6yjwiex.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/6xjc7dk.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/8axxcbc.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/89vkg1z.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/82xye55.jpg

Very nice updates.
Will each floor height in the steel section of the building be the same as the concrete part of the tower, even though there not habitable floors?

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

the hieght is just insane. all the other buildings surrounding it, even the other supertalls, are dwrafed by this structure.

great updates.

Very nice updates.
Will each floor height in the steel section of the building be the same as the concrete part of the tower, even though there not habitable floors?

The steel section each is around the height of 6.4m...


Much more than the 4 - 4.8m of floor height of the concrete sections

I know am gonna something very obvious, but its very very different the look of the tower when its dressed with glass. I mean its coming really WoW! :shocked::lovethem:

http://i3.tinypic.com/6xjc7dk.jpg

Are dose cracked windows or just some kind of a shade? And where's the 75th floor gone?

^^^^^^

Reflections.

Okay, but still where is the 75th floor gone? http://www.banjalukalive.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_neutral.gif

^same place where lev137 went. but i dont think they count burj dubais first grd floor anyway.
and near the top l155 and 157 there are double floors so when it says lev160, i think it equals 164 in total above grd or 166 above slab.

Does anybody know wich city in the world has the most supertalls??
I tried to google this but could not find an answer :ohno:

I'd say Hong Kong or Shanghai. Dubai is smiling too. :)

Okay, but still where is the 75th floor gone? http://www.banjalukalive.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_neutral.gif

Unsure of what you mean by where has the 75th floor gone as it is very clear in Imres pic posted in Post No.2064 and is where it should be between floors 74 and 76???????????? and in my pic posted above.:nuts:

Does anybody know wich city in the world has the most supertalls??
I tried to google this but could not find an answer :ohno:

not just supertalls but interesting list here:

http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/sr/

Place City Population Area Buildings² Points³
1. Hong Kong 6,943,600 1,053 km² 7,678 122,632
2. New York City 8,250,567 800 km² 5,580 36,615
3. Seoul 10,331,244 616 km² 2,871 16,558
4. Chicago 2,833,321 589 km² 1,063 16,104
5. Singapore 4,351,400 685 km² 3,786 14,460
6. São Paulo 11,016,703 1,523 km² 5,057 13,647
7. Shanghai 9,145,711 6,639 km² 946 13,605
8. Bangkok 7,587,882 1,569 km² 747 11,787
9. Tokyo 8,130,408 621 km² 2,769 11,653
10. Guangzhou 6,560,500 7,434 km² 479 9,904
11. Toronto 2,503,281 630 km² 1,714 7,670
12. Chongqing 6,300,000 82,403 km² 524 7,469
13. Shenzhen 1,245,000 2,020 km² 350 6,530
14. Beijing 7,746,519 16,808 km² 868 6,065
15. Dubai 1,241,000 3,885 km² 295 5,883

Dubai will be overtaking Beijing soon.

Does anybody know wich city in the world has the most supertalls??
I tried to google this but could not find an answer :ohno:

Now Hong Kong (2IFC, Central Plaza, Bank of China...), Shanghai (SWFC, Jim Mao,... I was there and there're more than 4000 buildings with more than 30 floors) and NY.
Dubai in a few years.

heres a few stats i put together.
i think im 90% correct.
Dubai is thrashing every other city with 300m+ projects.

dubai-5 (18 UC) + 3 more prep stage=26
chicago-5 (3 UC)=8
Hong Kong-5 (2 UC)=7
new york-5 (1UC)+2 prep stage=8
moscow (4 uc)=4
KL-3=3
shanghai-3 (1UC)=4
SHENYANG (6UC)=6

Dubai is getting more modern and more modern.

Al Burj thread is close but new driller (or tester) has arrived at the site , now they have 4:)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120490&page=60

^^Thanks for the new info...

Al Burj thread is close but new driller (or tester) has arrived at the site , now they have 4:)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120490&page=60

Holy shit, awsome:cheers:. It is a thriller! i am very curious:).

wow, the cladding progress above the 3rd mechs is really fast :)

dubai-5 (18 UC) + 3 more prep stage=26
chicago-5 (3 UC)=8
Hong Kong-5 (2 UC)=7
new york-5 (1UC)+2 prep stage=8
moscow (4 uc)=4
KL-3=3
shanghai-3 (1UC)=4
SHENYANG (6UC)=6

I'm not sure how you count 5 finished supertalls for Dubai--I count four. Here is how I understand the rankings to stand, considering only topped out buildings:

Hong Kong and Chicago are tied for first with 5 each
Hong Kong: 2ifc, central plaza, bank of china tower, the center, nina tower
Chicago: sears tower, aon center, john hancock center, at&t center, 2 prudential tower
Dubai next with 4: Emirates office tower, Rose Rotana, Burj Al Arab, Emirates Tower hotel
New York has 3: Empire State Building, Chrysler building, New York Times building

I'm going by the list on Emporis. They also list the Bank of America tower in New York as being topped out, but anyone can go to the thread and see that the spire isn't finished on that one.

Now, very soon, the Almas Tower will be topped out tying Dubai with Hong Kong and Chicago. Very shortly after, the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel should top out, putting Dubai in first with 6. Hong Kong and Chicago both have another one getting well along (Trump Tower in Chicago, ICC in Hong Kong), but by the time those are topped out the Index should be getting there as well. With all the other supertalls that are well under construction, Dubai will pull away far far from the rest of the competition after that.


Edit: I forgot about One Island East Center in Hong Kong which is almost topped out, so Hong Kong will, like Dubai, soon have 6. So they'll be tied for a bit longer before Dubai pulls away.

BD Cladding at night
http://i14.tinypic.com/8fmg21j.jpg

http://i8.tinypic.com/87dra0j.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/6y302og.jpg

Great pictures.... Thanks! :okay:

http://i2.tinypic.com/6s8t7h0.jpg

http://i6.tinypic.com/6upjnzs.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/6pyfsdi.jpg

They really need to hurry up with the cladding on the lower mech levels. That in itself, I believe, will be the single biggest noticeable change in the progress, and make the building look that much further along in the construction process...


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/2118493768bl3.jpg

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http://i7.tinypic.com/8bt0xe1.jpg

^^ :eek: Wow, stunning night photos!

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/2118493768bl3.jpg


this picture... it's just amazing...!

THESE PHOTOS AND ESPECIALLY THAT OF THE WHOLE CITY ARE INCREDIBLE. :eek2::eek2::eek2:
ALSO INCREDIBLE THIS ONE THE FACT THAT THE CRYSTALS OF THE BURJ DUBAI GO TO A VERY ADVANCED PACE. :master::drool::omg:

^^^^^^

I'm not sure how you count 5 finished supertalls for Dubai--I count four. Here is how I understand the rankings to stand, considering only topped out buildings:

Hong Kong and Chicago are tied for first with 5 each
Hong Kong: 2ifc, central plaza, bank of china tower, the center, nina tower
Chicago: sears tower, aon center, john hancock center, at&t center, 2 prudential tower
Dubai next with 4: Emirates office tower, Rose Rotana, Burj Al Arab, Emirates Tower hotel
New York has 3: Empire State Building, Chrysler building, New York Times building

I'm going by the list on Emporis. They also list the Bank of America tower in New York as being topped out, but anyone can go to the thread and see that the spire isn't finished on that one.


the Bank of america is Topped out :)


btw, Awesome night-shots :eek:

the Bank of america is Topped out :)




Dude...there are pictures on this very forum posted yesterday, showing them continuing to work on raising the 800 thousand billion meter tall spire that goes on the top of that thing.

^^

B of A is topped out mate.

Will each floor height in the steel section of the building be the same as the concrete part of the tower, even though there not habitable floors?

Who ever said that the steel section will be uninhabitable? Remember, the developer has never said anything about that yet. And if it was said on this forum, we cannot just believe it. I think that they will be inhabited.

^^ BoA is definately T/O. Back OT, I cannot wait to see Burj 1/2 cladded. This is one amazing tower! :banana:

nice night shots.

My mistake; the pictures posted yesterday on the BOA forum are 4 days old...they topped it out the next day. Sorry. So NYC is tied for 3rd with Dubai with 4 supertalls.

I'm not sure how you count 5 finished supertalls for Dubai--I count four. Here is how I understand the rankings to stand, considering only topped out buildings:

Hong Kong and Chicago are tied for first with 5 each
Hong Kong: 2ifc, central plaza, bank of china tower, the center, nina tower
Chicago: sears tower, aon center, john hancock center, at&t center, 2 prudential tower
Dubai next with 4: Emirates office tower, Rose Rotana, Burj Al Arab, Emirates Tower hotel
New York has 3: Empire State Building, Chrysler building, New York Times building

I'm going by the list on Emporis. They also list the Bank of America tower in New York as being topped out, but anyone can go to the thread and see that the spire isn't finished on that one.

Now, very soon, the Almas Tower will be topped out tying Dubai with Hong Kong and Chicago. Very shortly after, the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel should top out, putting Dubai in first with 6. Hong Kong and Chicago both have another one getting well along (Trump Tower in Chicago, ICC in Hong Kong), but by the time those are topped out the Index should be getting there as well. With all the other supertalls that are well under construction, Dubai will pull away far far from the rest of the competition after that.


Edit: I forgot about One Island East Center in Hong Kong which is almost topped out, so Hong Kong will, like Dubai, soon have 6. So they'll be tied for a bit longer before Dubai pulls away.

i counted burj d as the 5th. yes i know its uc.
bottom line is that dubai has3 times the supertalls as any other city. amazing

WOW
Amazing night shots on prev page!!
Yes!! They have changed the colour of the Lake water!! Now it looks a million times better.:banana::banana::cheers:

They really need to hurry up with the cladding on the lower mech levels. That in itself, I believe, will be the single biggest noticeable change in the progress, and make the building look that much further along in the construction process...


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/2118493768bl3.jpg

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this is an amazing picture... i wanto to be there and watch this nice city

The progress is so frustratingly slow. It's getting boring. I forgot the last time we saw a complete floor rise up.

The progress is so frustratingly slow. It's getting boring. I forgot the last time we saw a complete floor rise up.

From the last photos posted here it looks as if the outer ring is almost done on the next floor. :D

Tom

^^Yes, and this first floor of steel was construct in 5 or 6 days... that isn't slow for me...:banana:

not just supertalls but interesting list here:
http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/sr/
Place City Population Area Buildings² Points³
...
14. Beijing 7,746,519 16,808 km² 868 6,065
15. Dubai 1,241,000 3,885 km² 295 5,883

Dubai will be overtaking Beijing soon.

I'd recommend another good city list:
The World's Best Skylines (http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html) by Egbert Gramsbergen. Here only the height above 90 meters counts of each building, and this is an advantage for cities with many tall skyscrapers instead of those with thousands of nameless 20-floor-highrises.

So it's no surprise to find Bejing only on rank 19 there, but Dubai already on no. 3 :), only topped by Hongkong and New York City.

OFFTOPIC.....IMO emporis should change the rules for the city ranking....

I'd recommend another good city list:
The World's Best Skylines (http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html) by Egbert Gramsbergen. Here only the height above 90 meters counts of each building, and this is an advantage for cities with many tall skyscrapers instead of those with thousands of nameless 20-floor-highrises.

So it's no surprise to find Bejing only on rank 19 there, but Dubai already on no. 3 :), only topped by Hongkong and New York City.

Wow! By this ranking, Hong Kong is really unchallenged! I didn't realize how far ahead it was compared to New York in terms of number of tall buildings.

when are you all going to get over this huge egotistical erection in the world's fakest city?

^^ Dubai got pwn3d!!!

:lol:

^^What a great contribution to the thread shoreditchpete!:applause: Your post should be awarded for "the most unoriginal, been said 300 times already, but still finds a way to talk about nothing post of the year". Moving on now, I don't think I've seen the new photos of the lake. The last one I saw it was gross, maybe I missed a few pics here, but I'm too lazy to go back and find them right now:lol:

^^What a great contribution to the thread shoreditchpete!:applause: Your post should be awarded for "the most unoriginal, been said 300 times already, but still finds a way to talk about nothing post of the year". Moving on now, I don't think I've seen the new photos of the lake. The last one I saw it was gross, maybe I missed a few pics here, but I'm too lazy to go back and find them right now:lol:

the 'lake' eh?

http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html

what is that dude smoking, 3051 buildings over 90 metres in Hong Kong, no way, more like less than 500

http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html

what is that dude smoking, 3051 buildings over 90 metres in Hong Kong, no way, more like less than 500

Actually if you ever looked at a panorama of the whole Hong Hong skyline including the Hong Kong island and Kowloon, there is obviously at least 3000 skyscrapers above 90m. Most people just look at the skyline that show the prominent skyscrapers and never the whole skyline itself.

Actually if you ever looked at a panorama of the whole Hong Hong skyline including the Hong Kong island and Kowloon, there is obviously at least 3000 skyscrapers above 90m. Most people just look at the skyline that show the prominent skyscrapers and never the whole skyline itself.

Emporis are saying ~700 buildings 90 metres or greater
SSP are saying ~500 buildings 90 metres or greater

^^Yes, and this first floor of steel was construct in 5 or 6 days... that isn't slow for me...:banana:

It's not even close to being done yet.

^^Yes, and this first floor of steel was construct in 5 or 6 days... that isn't slow for me...:banana:

That's slow for steel work - the Empire State Building is all steel - and that rose (at it's fastest) at a floor a day! 5-6 days is slow. Hopefully it'll get faster - but as they're so far behind with the glazing, and therefore probably the interior fitting - and the concrete WAS on schedule - they probably don't need to go full-speed on the steel.

ps. I imagine sooner or later Emaar will stop farting around and tell us the final height. Of course most of us on here have known for over a year it's going to be 808-818m anyway. I remember finding that pdf that had the first set of detailed plans - and that had 808m as the new final height. Some new plans say 818m - but it's not much difference either way.

^actually 819m.(835m above slab). we cant ignore the large air craft beacon on tip.
the ESB rose a floor aday because the highest the steel had to be hoisted was 320m. Burj Dubais steel has to be hoisted up double that height to above 600m-700m.that requires more time.

Actually if you ever looked at a panorama of the whole Hong Hong skyline including the Hong Kong island and Kowloon, there is obviously at least 3000 skyscrapers above 90m. Most people just look at the skyline that show the prominent skyscrapers and never the whole skyline itself.
Emporis are saying ~700 buildings 90 metres or greater
SSP are saying ~500 buildings 90 metres or greater
If you look at the end of the list in Emporis there are thousands of extra buildings that do not have an exact height but the number of floors is known. Buildings with at least 30 floors are included in the list (counting approx 3m/floor, as the vast majority of these buildings is residential).

^actually 819m.(835m above slab). we cant ignore the large air craft beacon on tip.
the ESB rose a floor aday because the highest the steel had to be hoisted was 320m. Burj Dubais steel has to be hoisted up double that height to above 600m-700m.that requires more time.

Yeah, but the floors had a larger area... plus...you know... it was in the 1930s. The construction of the ESB was much more impressive than anything today.

here you go. a really quick comparison to a former wtb ESB.
gives you an idea of the height BurjD is attaining

fyi-the top of page is 819m mark.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3199/burjesbcompareaa9.jpg

Just out of curiousity, can you make a same one with the former wtc?

They really need to hurry up with the cladding on the lower mech levels. That in itself, I believe, will be the single biggest noticeable change in the progress, and make the building look that much further along in the construction process...

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You think that the construction plan should be determined by the aesthetics of the building during construction? Interesting.

Do you not think that it would be better to hoist the heavy plant components into the mechanical floors before they are clad?

Just out of curiousity, can you make a same one with the former wtc?
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6/burjesbcomparewtcqj3.jpg

Woah...I just discovered that my project, Parc1 in Seoul, is now listed on Skyscrapercity! I haven't discussed it previously because it was meant to be confidential until a few months ago.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=482663&page=3

:cheers:

The relationship between Parc1 and Burj Dubai is that Samsung are the builders for both. One of the gentlemen I deal with regularly on Parc1 is Samsung's executive director for highrise structures. So he is inolved in both projects. He used to work for SOM.

I'm the lead structural engineer for the basement and substructure for Parc1, which means working out how to hold up twin supertall towers, plus a 100m high hotel hotel and a 40m high shopping mall, all sitting on top of a 40m deep basement structure which takes up a whole city block. Burj Dubai actually looks easy in comparison! It's a greenfield site with a simple, elegant structure founded on a simple (albeit it massive) footing system.

I still haven't found out what that cone-shaped 1001m tall building proposal is. Too busy trying to sort out Parc1! :ohno:

Does anybody know wich city in the world has the most supertalls??
I tried to google this but could not find an answer :ohno:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=549927

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6/burjesbcomparewtcqj3.jpg

Thanks for the explain... :okay:

They really need to hurry up with the cladding on the lower mech levels. That in itself, I believe, will be the single biggest noticeable change in the progress, and make the building look that much further along in the construction process...

You think that the construction plan should be determined by the aesthetics of the building during construction? Interesting.

Yes I do. I'm a skyscraper enthusiast at heart. I've gone out of my way to take pictures of buildings. My train of thought doesn't have to be logical. :lol:


PS- It wouldn't be a first. ;)

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/12/578452.jpg


Do you not think that it would be better to hoist the heavy plant components into the mechanical floors before they are clad?

Do you not think that Emaar would have taken that into consideration before installing these clad support brackets?

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3200/82xye55wf6.jpg


They need to hurry it up. ;)

Do you not think that Emaar would have taken that into consideration before installing these clad support brackets?




Well, now they have my advice and your advice available to them. Free of charge.

Lucky Emaar.

Well, now they have my advice and your advice available to them. Free of charge.

Lucky Emaar.

:lol: Yeah, Emaar probably checks this thread regularly to make sure Burj Dubai is built to everyone's satisfaction.

the comparison is good with the other buildings, does anyone know when the new skyscraper poster is coming out?

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6/burjesbcomparewtcqj3.jpg

Thank you :okay:

the comparison is good with the other buildings, does anyone know when the new skyscraper poster is coming out?

CUL will post the next one at the turn of the new year :).

12/17 Burj Dubai and SZR from Burj al Arab
flickr - switchonwards
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2332/2118534168_1569b7fc94_b.jpg

nice

EXCELLENT PHOTO...:)

I wonder does construction work still go on at the top during thunderstorm? Especially at that height its virtually inside the cloud

how far is Burj al Arab from downtown dubai?? it seems miles away in that pic

Indeed a splendid vista from the tower of luxury!:cool: Burj al Arab could probably be the one and only place to have the entire panorama over Dubai, although the distances are rather big.
Further to the right there's Dubai Marina and Jumeira Lake Towers, so a picture of the view towards the South would be great, too (maybe in another thread).
Of course there are also many supertalls on the way around Marina, but Burj Dubai will make the difference at least for the next years - although Al Burj could be the tower to exceed BD someday...

edit: ^^ I estimate the distance between Burj Al Arab and Burj Dubai around 12 km (can't verify this at the moment, cause my googleearth is down)

Amazing picture. The area containing regular villas is so vast. I didn't even knew about this before:)

[QUOTE=Dan Hochhaus;

edit: ^^ I estimate the distance between Burj Al Arab and Burj Dubai around 12 km (can't verify this at the moment, cause my googleearth is down)[/QUOTE]

Correct Dan, around 12km

20/December/2007

Burj Dubai

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cladding

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from the Burj area

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from the Umm Suqeim Street, close to the Madinat Jumeirah

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from the Business Bay ( Tiara Towers plot)

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from the Business Bay

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from the Business Bay (Symphony -Binary plot)

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from the Business Bay (The Pad plot)

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from the Business Bay ( Moon Tower plot)

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from the Business Bay (Michael Schumacher Business Avenue plot)

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from the Business Bay (Burj Al Alam plot)

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from the Business Bay ( Al Naboodah storage plot)

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from the Business Bay restaurant plot

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from the Business Bay

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from the Business Bay (The Opus plot)

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from the Al Khail Road ( Business Bay new bridge)

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and road works front of the Burj Dubai

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Thanks! Steel is progressing nice :)

Awesome updates Imre :)

Cladding is coming on nicely, I love those shots showing the workers putting it up.

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I'd love to be the guy on the edge looking down.

12/17 Burj Dubai and SZR from Burj al Arab
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This picture is amazing... Thanks for posted it...!!! Great Skyline... :okay:

Great updates. Im glad to see BD growing up again as well as its cladding !

20/December/2007

Burj Dubai, short video


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stunning!!!

So the giant of giants begins to rise once again!!! Looking awesome!!

Greetings and Asaalam Aleikum. I've been following this thread since the Burj was just a big hole in the ground, but everyone has done such a magnificant job of asking and answering anything I could possibly have thought of, I haven't felt the need to post. And of course count me among the legion of Imre admirers. Wonderful photos!!!

So what has changed? Emirates Airlines has just started up non-stop flights from Toronto to Dubai and the Burj is just a mere 14-hours away. OK, not so "mere", but still a lot quicker than it used to be. I'm hoping, Insha'allah, to visit in February/March of 2009 to see the completed Burj. So I'm wondering, although I know this will be a lot easier to answer in a few months time, what are the odds are of the Burj being done by then? Also wondering about the temperature. I know the days will be OK, but would prefer to be there when the nights don't require me to wear anything more than a light shirt. My travel dates are flexible. Also wondering whether I'll be able to take pictures without the Burj being masked by that layer of haze, smog, dust or is it sand? Is there some time of the year when the air is particularly clear? Many thanks/Shukrun.

Come on, I'm not quite stupid enough to not know the difference between the third and fourth mechs :lol: Of course everyone knows about the new above third.

I was talking about this

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to my eyes, I could almost convince myself that there were maybe 3 windows there and a fourth being lowered into place, but looking more, I think not...it's too small to be windows, plus OTR says nothing happening there. :cheers:

checked today ,this is just another outside elevator but interesting because they have 2 on those levels

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^^ Thanks Imre

Greetings and Asaalam Aleikum. I've been following this thread since the Burj was just a big hole in the ground, but everyone has done such a magnificant job of asking and answering anything I could possibly have thought of, I haven't felt the need to post. And of course count me among the legion of Imre admirers. Wonderful photos!!!

So what has changed? Emirates Airlines has just started up non-stop flights from Toronto to Dubai and the Burj is just a mere 14-hours away. OK, not so "mere", but still a lot quicker than it used to be. I'm hoping, Insha'allah, to visit in February/March of 2009 to see the completed Burj. So I'm wondering, although I know this will be a lot easier to answer in a few months time, what are the odds are of the Burj being done by then? Also wondering about the temperature. I know the days will be OK, but would prefer to be there when the nights don't require me to wear anything more than a light shirt. My travel dates are flexible. Also wondering whether I'll be able to take pictures without the Burj being masked by that layer of haze, smog, dust or is it sand? Is there some time of the year when the air is particularly clear? Many thanks/Shukrun.

It will not be completed by then, but very close to it. The weather should be pleasand and there should be no need to wear something more. The visibility depends from the wind directions but a few days of rain should clear all out regardless.

Hey Imre, any pics of the steel on the ground?

interesting pic this. the lowest floor in this pic is the lev124 observation deck at height of sears tower.(442m)
thanks for updates imre
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^^ Once again, great shots Imre!

That picture from the Burj al Arab is about 15 days old though so it's not that recent, and as for distance (someone asked it), it's about 15 miles or so away from the site. Correct me if I am wrong.

And here's another image from 12/20 (killah_unit - flickr)
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Woah...I just discovered that my project, Parc1 in Seoul, is now listed on Skyscrapercity! I haven't discussed it previously because it was meant to be confidential until a few months ago.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=482663&page=3

:cheers:

The relationship between Parc1 and Burj Dubai is that Samsung are the builders for both. One of the gentlemen I deal with regularly on Parc1 is Samsung's executive director for highrise structures. So he is inolved in both projects. He used to work for SOM.

I'm the lead structural engineer for the basement and substructure for Parc1, which means working out how to hold up twin supertall towers, plus a 100m high hotel hotel and a 40m high shopping mall, all sitting on top of a 40m deep basement structure which takes up a whole city block. Burj Dubai actually looks easy in comparison! It's a greenfield site with a simple, elegant structure founded on a simple (albeit it massive) footing system.

I still haven't found out what that cone-shaped 1001m tall building proposal is. Too busy trying to sort out Parc1! :ohno:

Hmm, we really need to go out for a beer again my friend? ;)

Hmm, we really need to go out for a beer again my friend? ;)

I wouldn't if I were you. Last time you went to a bar with someone named McKenzie, you ended up making this spectacularly embarrassing post:

News Update:

Al Burj Datum established today. One meter above sea level.

24"57'02.91N 54"57'46.29E

Piling starts next Monday - Citation (Duncan McKenzie)

;)

Does anyone have that chart with the schedule of when each floor will be completed?

I wonder does construction work still go on at the top during thunderstorm? Especially at that height its virtually inside the cloud

I would love to watch a severe thunderstorm from the 162 and higher floors of Burj Dubai. Being lost in the clouds with lightning and heavy rain would look really interesting.

Hey Imre, any pics of the steel on the ground?


I havent seen the storage area of the steel yet.

ps. I imagine sooner or later Emaar will stop farting around and tell us the final height. Of course most of us on here have known for over a year it's going to be 808-818m anyway. I remember finding that pdf that had the first set of detailed plans - and that had 808m as the new final height. Some new plans say 818m - but it's not much difference either way.


The actual final height is STILL a secret. The 808 and 818 heights are working figures for the plans. The final height will be what it will be. There is nothing to guarantee the above figures are solidly in tact.

Off the subject for a second. I'm still in support of Dubaimegaprojects current height figures for BD as per the Datum Point measurements. This building has already crossed 600m. It is only less than 13m from besting the KVLY mast. The Datum Point as Skytower described is the official Dubai municipality reference ground level where streets run. It is not underground. Hopefully Skytower can elaborate this in his words for a complete clarification.

I havent seen the storage area of the steel yet.

Roger, thanks. http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6339/thumbsupse5.gif

Hi all.

Here is the spire schedule using the revised schedule from July '07. As it is in a graph form it is not very detailed.

- Beginning of steel construction - first week of November - Start of Tier 16 - 585.7 Meters
- Second week of December - Level 160 - Second level of Tier 17 - 611.3 Meters
- Second week of March '08 - Roof 1 - Start of Tier 19 - 643.3
- Second week of April - Roof 2 - Start of Tier 20 - 662.5
- First week of May - Roof 3 - Start of Tier 21 - 681.7
- Fourth week of May - Roof 4/ Spire 1 - Start of Tier 22 - 700.9
- Third week of June - Spire 2 - Start of Tier 23 - 720.1
- Second week of July - Spire 3 - Start of Tier 24 - 739.3 - Beginning of Spire Lifting
- Second week of August - Height begins to increase again
- Third week of September - Final height - 818.0

It appears the steel started a month behind schedule - the first week of December. It remains to be seen if that means the rest of the steel schedule will also be a month behind.

:cheers:

to me the new steal floor doesn't look much bigger than the rest it doesn't look 2m taller that the previos as the rumours specified :ohno:
it was from about 4 m to 6 m well I don't see that differrence from the pictures :ohno:

^^ It IS taller.

to me the new steal floor doesn't look much bigger than the rest it doesn't look 2m taller that the previos as the rumours specified :ohno:
it was from about 4 m to 6 m well I don't see that differrence from the pictures :ohno:

I agree...maybe it will rise a litle more though.

an article from Panama ( La Prensa ) with my pic:)

Panamá, jueves 13 de diciembre de 2007

dubai.ícono en el golfo pérsico.

Crece el mega-rascacielo

La edificación sobrepasa la altura del Taipei 101, que hasta el 21 de julio de 2007 mantenía el récord mundial.

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Cortesía de www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/ Imre Solt

PROYECTO. Al 24 de octubre, la Burj Dubai ya contaba con 156 pisos y 585 metros de altura. El promotor, Emaar, no ha anunciado la elevación actual de la torre.

Diego Quijano
dquijano@prensa.com

Desde el pasado 24 de octubre, el promotor de la Burj Dubai (Torre Dubai) no ha anunciado oficialmente la altura de su construcción. En esa fecha, ya contaba con 156 pisos o 585.7 metros de altura, lo que lo convierte en no solo el edificio más alto del planeta, sino en la estructura más alta construida por el ser humano.

Con esas medidas, la edificación fácilmente sobrepasa la altura del Taipei 101, el edificio que hasta 21 de julio de 2007 mantenía el récord mundial con 509.2 metros de altura, supera también los 110 pisos que tiene la Torre Sears en Chicago y la elevación de la Torre de radio CN en la ciudad de Toronto, que mide 555.3 metros.

Al día de hoy, la construcción continúa y su promotor, Emaar Properties, no precisa la elevación que ha alcanzado.

De acuerdo con un comunicado del promotor, los récords del proyecto no son solo de altura: contará con refugios de seguridad cada 25 pisos; está diseñado para sostener a más de 35 mil personas; se planificó para que tuviese una vida de 100 años; contará con 86 mil metros cuadrados de vidrio; tendrá el elevador más alto del mundo y una demanda de energía de 36 megavatios o 360 mil bombillos de 100 vatios.

http://mensual.prensa.com/mensual/contenido/2007/12/13/hoy/negocios/1204215.html