Well I thought I'd better start one since I have a couple of FRESH pics (pun intended ha ha!) today.. October 9

PWC looking ready to sprout a lift core box any week now! And you can see the outline of the tower dug out..

October 9, 2002

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Oct2002/DSC00100.jpg

Piling is relentless over at Resi Tower 1.. another month at most I reckon..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Oct2002/DSC00101.jpg

And a couple of older pics for ya..

Circa Feb 2001 - god bless the old VB sign! :angel1:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/freshwater-site.jpg

Circa May 2002 - pre Ice skating rink and piling..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/130402-01.jpg

Great pics...good to see some progess :guns1:

Is that how deep the foundations going to be or are they going to continue digging?

Yeah...great pics, can't wait to see this and Eureka climbing skywards together. I went to the display suit the other day, and boy were the models impressive!!!!! Next time I go, I'll take some more pics!!
Also, which building of FWP is being pilled, and are there more than just one currently under construction?

Thanx guys,
MAtt:)

Jesus Christ Adrian - what time were you there ?????

myself, Dean, silvermb and Kay were all up in the same spot from 3pm onwards, you'll have to give me your mobile number or some other way to get in contact with you :D

notcie they're doing BIG pilings in between PWC and FWP North ? :D

cheers

tays

Aussieman.. maybe I wasn't completely clear but if you read the captions.. the first pic is of the Price Waterhouse Coopers Office Tower (~165m) and the 2nd pic is where the North Residential Tower (203m) is going up. And yes both of those are U/C, the South Residential tower is not yet U/C..

And thats definately as far deep as they will go for any of the towers, just like Eureka, only a floor below ground. When they start pouring flat concrete like that and assembling core boxes, thats defiantely it for digging..

Fantastic, thanx for that A-brain.
So PWC and Resi-1 are a sure thing now??? Or is there a possibilty of them being cancelled, cause I really wanna see these things built!

Thanx guys,
MAtt:)

umm well put it this way, if something is under construction right now there's probably a 1% it'll get cancelled.....

A-Brain (adrian) when were you on top of the Mirvac car park ??? (approximately what time ?)

tays

just an interesting comparison ! The height of the Freshwater towers (203m) will be the exact same height as the 2nd highest setback (east wing) on Eureka!so thats pretty impressive!:)

Two more pics (from the Brochure)

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/newfwprender4.jpg
http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/newfwprender5.jpg

wh00p wh00p

tays :D

I was there around 5pm.. a few hours after you guys were there..

Have they got a new brochure? That 'extreme' angle photo looking up isnt in the big glossy brochure of FWP I got a few months ago!

Still wish Resi Tower 1 was 218m.. but oh well beggars cant be choosers..

Hey,

This is Melbourne.

We ain't begging.

We're booming.

Cheers,

Adam

Adrian I got the pic from the big gloosy brochure I attained about 3 motnhs ago :?

one of the last pages ;)

tays

I wonder what the FWP apartments are selling for!

They start at around $600,000 for a 1 bedroom.

in about 5 years time, there'll be about 4 towers taller than the current tallest in Southbank (152m Crown Hotel), that's even more impressive :)

I really do wonder when FWP South will begin, they say next year but I'm sceptical... at least two of the towers are going up for sure though, will fit in nicely within Crown and Eureka for sure

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
They start at around $600,000 for a 1 bedroom.

that's if you can get a 1 bed....

Silvermb and Dean did some, uhhhh undercover work today, Dean posed as a potential buyer from Sydney - silvermb went off and took some up close pics of everything and did some research on their displays, said that half the podium apartments are sold, EVERYTHING from the Podium to 38 (which is just underneath where the "step" is ) is sold, and half of everything from there up is sold.... plus everything from 38 and up is like über expensive...

but still

hello FWP, Eureka's definately making its mark on Southbank now (saw it from Rialto) cannot freaking wait to see PWC and Resi North from up there

w00t :D

tays

silvermb's from yesterday, to see everything CLICK HERE: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5876

PriceWaterhouseCoopers having its core box constructed:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwparv.jpg

The Relentless piling for FWP North
http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwpr.jpg

effing HELLO:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/sbkmodel1.jpg
http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/sbkmodel2.jpg

Go to that thread linked above for the latest Melb Pictorial update (from 11/10)

tays

Report in Friday's Age(18/10/02),for any who missed it:Construction of the first apartments at the upmarket $750 million Freshwater Place on Southbank will start in January following the sale of half of the project's first residential tower.
Developer Australand has also confirmed that Baulderstone Hornibrook has been appointed to build the 36-level Freshwater commercial tower,to be anchored by PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Rumours had been rife that Freshwater's residential component was in deep trouble,burdened by a softening market and an overly ambitious pricing strategy.Australand had priced 150 of the 530 units in the first of two towers at more than $1 million.
Australand's national managing director,Brendan Crotty,said:"We've got enough presales to kick off construction....we're probably close to 50 per cent of units sold".He said that about 45 per cent of the value of the property had been accounted for in sales.
Mr.Crotty said his company was now choosing between two builders-believed to be Lend Lease and Multiplex-for the first residential tower.Work is likely to start in mid-January.
Australand would not start marketing the second residential tower until the first tower had been sold."Until we've got 85 or 90 per cent of the first tower sold we wouldn't even think about marketing the second tower".
The Australian,on Friday,in a small report,also added that the PWC tower was a $180 million contract,with completion of the 48,000 sq.metre tower due December 2004.
Obviously the "mid-January start"is a little misleading,as there seems to be plenty of piling,etc.already underway.

welcome back to OzScrapers redden ;)

lol @ jan construction date for North. So that means they'll be piling up until then ? ;) They've been moving "stuff" all around that part of the site for a month now, and the number of exposed concrete foundations is growing daily too!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/bigeasy.jpg

Silvermb took that last friday (from Rialto etc) and you can see the "pilers" (that the name for em ? :D) on site just between the Advertising board and QBH (building to the right), they've also done a lot to the left of the sign, you can see the footprint of where the podium will be going now.

It's interesting though, PWC's foundations seemed to have gone past so quick (as they're not constructing a core box!!)

cheers

tays

Yeah FWP was always going to be a *big* ask to sell out such a big tower, particularly at those prices. Even so I'm actually bit dissapointed in those results considering its such a prominent development in such an amazing location..

The fact that the lower-cheaper half of the tower is all sold out shows there is heaps of interest in the tower but only so much money people have to go around! Mivac are gonna find Tower VI pretty hard to sell at their prices too I think - and I think they know it and have held back its release..

We will have to be patient on the 2nd tower .. I think when the project takes shape and both FWP 1 & PWC + Eureka are all standing tall on the skyline - people will realise what an even greater location it has become and flock to fill Tower 1 .. and move onto tower 2

Better it gets posponed than not built at all or replaced with something smaller!

Developers are so greedy..:bleep:

Those apartments are tiny, ceilings are low, floor is covered by cheap carpet, kitchens and bathrooms are basic,there is no luxury whatsoever and prices go through the roof.... :mad:

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
They start at around $600,000 for a 1 bedroom.

$1,050,000 for a 2 bedroom 10 square flat. Yikes.

:rotf:

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Developers are so greedy..:bleep:

Those apartments are tiny, ceilings are low, floor is covered by cheap carpet, kitchens and bathrooms are basic,there is no luxury whatsoever and prices go through the roof.... :mad:


My sentiments exactly and the worst thing is you dont get any land for your cool million bucks and you have to pay about $5,000 a year for Body Corp.

I wouldnt touch them with a barge pole.
Maybe I havent got the money (to waste) anyway.

Still some of them have got great views, that must be worth 2 or 3 hundred thousand dont you think.
:D

BTW itll be fab to see the Riparian and Aurora sized towers next to each other on Southbank.


:rant:

I think the display apartment in the display suite looked pretty cool, the fittings and fixtures didn't look low quality to me.
Anyways everybody knows what's important in Real Estate location, location, location and this tower has the best location and views in Melbourne.

Add to that all the other amenities that go with the tower and the fact that you just have to go down the lifts to get to everything you could ever want and I think they are pretty reasonable.

If you think FWP prices are unreasonable you should see some of the horrid little ugly 60's & 70's apartments in Sydney that sell for a fourtune purely on views and location.

You don't get any land and body corporate fees... So what? investing in apartments might be new and scary to most Australians but in many cities around the world there are more apartments than detached houses and Sydney and Melbourne are heading that way.

As I walked around Southbank last night, I looked across at that bloody old derelict bridge just sitting there.

When is something going to be done?

Has anybody heard anything? As usual the governments gone quiet after the tendering debacle!

It's such a major eyesore and yet it continues to rust away. Are they waiting for Freshwater Place to happen or something?

well, Freshwater Place *IS* happening right now!

they are just going to develop it to be a new pedestrian bridge for FWP, nothing special... they're still figuring all that out though.

I just wish they would tear Sandridge down, saying it's an eyesore is an understatement.

Agree, the bridge should either be developed or it should go. But since it's there, I think they're waiting until Queensbridge Square at FwP is complete before the bridge is reopened as a pedestrian crossing (to what, though?! Flinders St train tracks, mebbe).

It really is a bloody eyesore!

more concrete pouring action on PWC - relentless piling still continuing on FWP North. silvermb will post pics and add any info I've forgotten soon.

tays

Various proposals from the DOI's site:

Peter Elliot Architects:

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/880daab98d35c4f9ca256ba7000f3d88/$FILE/3.jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/0d92aa873afa6fe3ca256ba7000f426d/$FILE/4.jpg

Tract Consultants:

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/d0376f1f87964ed1ca256ba7000f52bc/$FILE/entry2.gif

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/d1133c37e6d1a04aca256ba7000f5a93/$FILE/entry3.gif

Urban Initiatives:

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/c77bb9b1d09cd027ca256ba7000f2c0b/$FILE/1.jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/0ac6080e7955452cca256ba7000f3916/$FILE/2.jpg

Swaney Draper:

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/97aa318f177e94ebca256baa0020cf3d/$FILE/CONTEX.jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/add92a6dfa9243a4ca256bab000cc907/$FILE/CONTEX2.jpg

Kerstin Thompson:

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/0ebaf1a31314e61aca256baa0020e302/$FILE/_oe5qmapbeecg6gqb7d0g7eqbkd0g70r31dpq6asjj40j0_.jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/ccf6da5c636d2f46ca256baa0020ea4d/$FILE/view%20from%20southbank.jpg

originally posted by Aussie Man in this thread old thread: http://www.hoogbouw.nl/OZforum/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=151

tays

Originally posted by AZCOR


$1,050,000 for a 2 bedroom 10 square flat. Yikes.

:rotf:

World Tower, which is just as prestige doesn't charge such massive prices for their apartments. You even get better views with 2 bedroom prices starting from $885 000.

Freshwater Place, construction proper to commence Jan03. What is that vertical funnel just to the left of centre? Purpose?
http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwpr.jpg

2 Southbank Boulevard, the ofician name of PricewaterhouseCoopers
http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwpl1.jpg

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwpl3.jpg

I know Dean was impressed last time with this five arm unit, ahhh it's no Putzmeister (hehehe). Looks like some sort of oversized angry butterfly.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwpl.jpg

Thanks for bringing the threads up Tays, although I think todays photos may have superseded one or two above, hence the duplication.

gonna post the pics of CE's stuff ? (I bumped that thread up too )

tays

wow theres some cenent at that site now, good!

Can't say any of those take my fancy is a hurry. And the problem with the Sandridge BRidge is that it's way too bulky for a pedestrian bridge over the Yarra...maybe they can split it down the centre and take down half so that it's narrower (leaving the stumps that go into the water at full width).

Wont they going to do something ridiculous to that bridge? If my memory serves me correctly a giant ferris wheel, like the Millenium Wheel in London? Im soooo glad they didn't it would have spoiled the views up and down the Yarra

Originally posted by MelbGold
Wont they going to do something ridiculous to that bridge? If my memory serves me correctly a giant ferris wheel, like the Millenium Wheel in London? Im soooo glad they didn't it would have spoiled the views up and down the Yarra yep, the Melbourne Eye as it was called, it was too tacky and really didn't suit Melbourne, like others said, maybe in Luna Park :)

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/doielect.nsf/2a6bd98dee287482ca256915001cff0c/d0376f1f87964ed1ca256ba7000f52bc/$FILE/entry2.gif

that one is by far the best IMO, still would rather prefer no bridge at all

Those aren't designs for the bridge though, they're just designs for Queensbridge Square and 'suggested' ways to integrate sandridge bridge. It's a stupid bridge and serves no purpose, even if it has some historical value. It's an eyesore, and I reckon only 5/100 people would attach any significance to it. The grollo proposal for it wasn't half bad. Now they are just going to repaint it, put a few steps at either end, place a few benches and that's it. What a waste of money.

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/internet/planning.nsf/d158f5dc440c80424a2564530018687f/d0e299f893937a87ca256bad00037a55/Body/0.5AAE?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif

Constructed during the transition from iron to steel, the Sandridge Rail Bridge (SRB) is possibly the earliest example of the use of steel bridge girders on the Victorian rail system.

The bridge has a strong association with the Port Melbourne and St Kilda railway lines, which played a vital role in the development of Melbourne as a great commercial city of the 19th century.

Opened to rail traffic in 1888, the decorative ornamentation of the SRB made it a key feature of early Melburnian architecture. For almost 15 years, the bridge has been unused. It now represents a unique development opportunity to turn an important part of Melbourne's past into a vibrant part of it's future.

The significance of the Sandridge port and its rail link into Melbourne lasted well into the twentieth century, until the line was eventually replaced by a light rail service in 1987.

The bridge was built in 1888 by David Munro, a well known and important colonial builder who also constructed the Princes' Bridge (1888) and Queens Bridge (1890).
A young engineering student named John Monash, later Major-General Sir John Monash, was employed by David Munro.
Sandridge Rail Bridge is possibly the earliest example of the use of steel bridge girders on the Victorian rail system. The bridge replaced two earlier railway bridges, erected in 1853 and 1859.
The bridge provided a rail link from Melbourne's flourishing commercial centre to the port at Hobsons Bay. This initiated a strong association with the Port Melbourne and St Kilda railway lines, which lasted well into the twentieth century.
Freight handling on the line ceased in the 1950's and passenger services were closed in 1987 when the line was replaced with a light rail service to Port Melbourne.
The bridge is owned by the public of Victoria. The Minister for Finance is the custodian of the bridge on behalf of the community.
Sandridge Bridge is listed on the Victorian Heritage Register and is considered to be of State significance.
The bridge is 178.4 metres long and is made up of five spans, measuring in length from the south bank to the north bank: 36.9m, 36.6m, 36.3m, 36.9m and 31.7m. The bridge is 17m wide and the girders are 2.74m high from the top to the bottom of the flange.
The bridge has been constructed at a 33 degree angle to the river bank, reflecting the Sandridge line's direct route from Flinders Street to the port.

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/internet/planning.nsf/d158f5dc440c80424a2564530018687f/d0e299f893937a87ca256bad00037a55/Body/0.1E1C?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/internet/planning.nsf/d158f5dc440c80424a2564530018687f/d0e299f893937a87ca256bad00037a55/Body/0.28FA?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/internet/planning.nsf/d158f5dc440c80424a2564530018687f/d0e299f893937a87ca256bad00037a55/Body/0.32A8?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/internet/planning.nsf/d158f5dc440c80424a2564530018687f/d0e299f893937a87ca256bad00037a55/Body/0.3D8C?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/internet/planning.nsf/d158f5dc440c80424a2564530018687f/d0e299f893937a87ca256bad00037a55/Body/0.4C2E?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

This bridge is on the:Victorian Heritage Register, is Classifed by the National Trust of Australia (Victoria) and is on the Register of the National Estate as a bridge of historical, technical and architectural significance to the State of Victoria.

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/hvolr.nsf/LUDL/H994/$file/1_sandridge_railway_line_bridge_over_yarra_river_melbourne_view_over_river_aug1985.jpg

From Heritage Victoria: Why is it significant?
The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is historically significant as a surviving link across the River Yarra of Australia's first passenger railway line. The bridge has a strong historical association with the Port Melbourne and St Kilda railway lines which played a vital role in the development of Melbourne as a great commercial city of the nineteenth century. Each of these two lines was provided with twin tracks, making the bridge the first railway bridge in Victoria with more than two tracks. The bridge played a significant role in linking both port and recreational facilities with the city, facilitating the economic, suburban and demographic development of Melbourne. It is also historically significant as a notable example of the work of engineer, speculator and contractor David Munro, whose other work included Queens Bridge and Princes Bridge.

The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is technically significant as possibly the earliest example of the use of steel bridge girders on the Victorian railway system. The columns, innovative in construction design, are similar in design to Queens Bridge. The bridge is of considerable size, both in terms of its maximum span and its length. Its maximum span is among the ten longest metal girder bridge spans in Australia. The bridge is also an unusual example of bridge design for its skewed angle over the River Yarra.

The Sandridge Railway Line Bridge is architecturally significant as an essentially intact and rare example of a building type, and as the only known example of a railway bridge in Victoria carrying substantial ornamentation. The bridge demonstrates a notable application of classical decorative schemes in its piers, columns, pediments, fanlight motifs and arched braces across the piers.

has any been past the site since last friday ? anymore work on the PWC core box ? wish they'd hurry up and get it moving skyward ;)

tays

wow, when they start using that thing with the giant arm on it (lol, whatever) then you know that the tower is gonna be rising soon enough.

that place looks very active from the last couple weeks, wood and cement on site... kinda reminds me of what Eureka looked like in May, yeah those were the days :)

i found this pic of the bottom of freshwaterplace at realestate.com.au , i hadnt seen it before.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/3828/1463828al1032501929.jpg

That looks stunning...is that Tom Cruise in the bottom right hand pic?!

Went up the Mirvac car park today briefly - 2 Southbank Boulevard's (PWC's) footprint is now clearly visible, they've just completed a big pour, I can't see any other "parts" where they have to pour (except for the L-Shaped podium that wraps around the southern extreme of the site & the core itself) :D

tays

Hehe.. we seem to be good at just 'missing' each other in our trips up the Mirvac carpark tays..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/nnatio12/DSC00203.jpg
http://users.bigpond.net.au/nnatio12/DSC00204.jpg

As you said.. they did a big pour yesterday with one of those 5-arm spidery trucks.. amazing how shallow the actual basement is.. now with that done they can start on the core itself..

lol - see the Eureka thread adrian

also, notice there are now 4 substantial "skeletons" viewable from up there ? 6 months, there'll be 5 or 6 (another CE clab at Southbank Central and 2 Southbank Blvd. :D)

anyone got a pano lense on their digicam ? it'd be great to get a pano from the car park with Eureka, Southpoint, Victoria and Crown Promenade Hotel all in one shot ;)

cheers

tays

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwp2new.jpg

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/markspics/fwp3new.jpg

there was only one piling unit working on the freshwater north base after midday, almost time to buid.

that Vibropile in the 2nd pic was in the same place yesterday

one thing's for sure, it's going to be a "long" corebox for 2 Sthbnk. Blvd.!

tays

damn look how much happens in a week! and just look at all those trucks on site!

gotta get into the city real soon to see this for myself

silvermb, in that first picture, is that the lift core?

Originally posted by Fabian
silvermb, in that first picture, is that the lift core?

nope, I dont think anyone knows -exactly- what they are, but they occassionally have water pumping into them - could be onsite concrete mixers, or just outlets for water they reach when they pile for the North tower (to the right of those "boxes") FWP North is only 20 - 30m from the Yarra's Southern Bank.....

tays

Grollo - You don't get any land and body corporate fees... So what?

The 'supply and demand' factor is more important than any other factor including location, opportunity or timing.

There will only ever be a limited supply of land and therell always be an endless supply of apartments in towers.
Central Equity have seen to that.

Just wait until there all finished.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/fp new 3.jpg

close to qbh

North East entrance:
http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_21/300/CJ_21_17222_10772.jpg

North West entrance from the Piazza:
http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_21/300/CJ_21_17222_10774.jpg

The Piazza:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/2sb piazza.jpg

The latest Hero shot:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/2sb wow.jpg

From City Road:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/2sb city road.jpg

This is an amazing project.......looks fantastic

skyscrapers.com lists the 2 residential towers as the same height - has the shorter one been increased due to demand??

That rendering from City Road! I couldnt see how 2 Sthbnk Blvd was going to have such a huge podium (from looking at the actual site today, and previously) but hrm... it's is "rather large" lol

SteveMelb will have the latest construction pics later on today / tonight

Fountainhead, Freshwater Place North actually was DEcreased in height from 218m to 203m.... australand have permits to go to 60 stories (For the residentials) not sure if it applies to 2 Southbank Boulevard (PWC)

cheers

tays

i hope there willl be some cheap eateries at the bottom as

compared to a la crowne

They are really interesting renderings,Grollo;thanks.I've been curious how it would look from City Rd.Thank goodness FWP is going to have the plaza/retail component;one problem with piecemeal development in Southbank to date is the dearth of cafes and shops.You don't see many people walking around unless you go to the riverbank;FWP will draw people in a bit.The council should be shot for allowing Central Equity to build massive developments like Southbank Central(1,000 apartments,isn't it?),without any community focus,apart from token pools/tennis courts perched above ground on podiums.This leaves a street level of gleaming empty polished granite foyers and car park entrances.Even the Central Gardens development,on the old tram depot site,behind the Royal Domain Tower site,has about 700 apartments in total,but nowhere to sit and "people watch",whilst having a cuppa,etc.

WOW...the project is looking AMAZING.
It just occured to me that the big E and FWP will be RIGHT NEXT DOOR to each other! When I visit the core, the BMW dealership (pictured infront of FWP) is basically a hop, skip and jump away from Eureka!!! VERY COOL
Thanx guys,
MAtt:)

in that last pic of grollo's, in that road that has the big streak of car lights going down it, doesnt that road just go into crowns car park? or are they doing something to it?

yer, it'll still go to Crown ;)

tays

SteveMelb's pics from IBM, for record keeping purposes

look at what they've excavated!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/stevemelb/tour_20021130/pic16.jpg

tays

YIPPEE YI YAY

FIRST TOWER CRANE INSTALLED TODAY (SUNDAY) FOR THE PWC JOB. ABOUT BLOODY TIME 2. HMMMFFFF.

w00t - get that baby rising

at long last, mah pride and joy is on its way (well considerably on its way)

:D :guns1: :D

tays

Here we go again..

In the first pic, the crane still doesn't have a wire, but looks like maybe a 2nd crane is about to form as well, the core box is Oh-So-Close!!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Cons/DSC00227.jpg

In the 2nd pic, I can confirm that primary piling has most defiantely finished!! :D :D

You can just make out where the core is going to be in the distance where they have escavated down and poured a small square of concrete.. surrounded by orange mesh fencing..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Cons/DSC00226.jpg

:guns1: :guns1: :guns1: yes this is the development that I'm most excited about........... :D :D :D

must find out more info on Queensbridge Square, i.e which design has been chosen and when it's going to "kick off" - another task for myself for the holidays :D

tays

Here is one of FWP from last night (11/4)
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/DSC01074.JPG

This is a great project to watch! I can't wait until it is built.

Good pictures.

Nice to see one of the towers commencing their rise to the top.

no more piling, no more waiting...concrete is finally being poured at FWP. The outer line of piling has been exposed and pouring has commenced. The core pit is ready to fill as well.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwppore1.JPG

PwC's second crane base was poured today so the second crane should be up just before christmas.

love thy Freshwater Place ;)

anyone want to compare the piling (as it now looks to be complete at FWP North) between FWP North and Eureka - i.e time difference ? (I never saw when the first piles were drive for Eureka)..... :?

tays

Fantastic. Can't wait to see Eureka and these beauties rising together. I think this boom is better than the early 90's!!! FWP is going to be like the Paris End of Collins...lots of tallies clumped together...although I spose with E, it'll be a bit spread out.

Thanx guys,
MAtt:)

Originally posted by tayser
love thy Freshwater Place ;)

anyone want to compare the piling (as it now looks to be complete at FWP North) between FWP North and Eureka - i.e time difference ? (I never saw when the first piles were drive for Eureka)..... :?

tays

Piles at Eureka were being driven in Jan. 2001. I think, as I walked passed it when i went to the Aussie open. But that wasn't concreting etc, i think that would have been later in 2001.

when do they judge for the square out the front?

Looks like they are starting work on the Sandrige Bridge , the old signal box at Flinders St Station is half demolished I thought that was under Historic buildings protection but Im glad this eyesore is being removed.
I also passed what looked like the site buildings for Southern Cross station near completion in the former Crown car park.

Originally posted by barneybuck
Looks like they are starting work on the Sandrige Bridge , the old signal box at Flinders St Station is half demolished I thought that was under Historic buildings protection but Im glad this eyesore is being removed.
I also passed what looked like the site buildings for Southern Cross station near completion in the former Crown car park.

ahh great, that signal box blocks half my view of Eureka's progress from the train lol :D so yeah, I'm also glad it's going!

tays

The old signal box at Flinders St Station has been durnt out twice in 2 years and there is very little left of it. It is on the Victorian Heritage Register, but i think it will be demolished, rather then restored. its a pitty, cos it was a great building in its day :(

Originally posted by Aussie Steve
The old signal box at Flinders St Station has been durnt out twice in 2 years and there is very little left of it. It is on the Victorian Heritage Register, but i think it will be demolished, rather then restored. its a pitty, cos it was a great building in its day :(

yes - it's beyond "worth saving" it's charred like buggery, and is hardly recognisable as an old "signal box" :D

tays

Jan 2001? Ooh nah I think you'll find Eureka's piling started much later than that..

It was more like August 2001 and lasted about 6 months, finishing up probably Jan/Feb this year..

In comparison piling for PwC and FWP 1 both were probably about 3-4 months..

Originally posted by A-brain
Jan 2001? Ooh nah I think you'll find Eureka's piling started much later than that..

It was more like August 2001 and lasted about 6 months, finishing up probably Jan/Feb this year..

In comparison piling for PwC and FWP 1 both were probably about 3-4 months..

Well it might not have been Eureka but they were piling something on that site! Construction had difinatly started.

work looks to have started on the FWP South tower site, Delta equipment/excavators (just visible) were working there today. Probably just preparation work
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwpsth.JPG

just the one piling unit which started work on the area which was covered up for months by those tanks/machinery. Love that concrete outline. I just realised how massive the podium of the north tower will be-amazing. Get that bloody piling equipment out so we can see some real construction.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwpnorth1.JPG

these three guys must really like their job!
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/pwcup.JPG

lol when you said delta were on site for FWP, I imediately thought, well Australand are probably getting in before Prima - but then again I thought, no that cant be right, as FWP south hasnt even gone to sales yet.... *sigh*

FFS just build it - who cares if it's blatant economic suicide.... oh.......... :runaway:

:guns1:

tays

Great pics! .... Wishful thinking on FWP South getting started....

Dont worry about piling machinery.. note that the footprint of the actual FWP North Tower is all clear!! Thats the main part we're concerned with!!

Ditto tays comments about FWP South tho!! And build the Gaylord M Fokker to 218m toute suite ploise!!!

... I really want to see Australand's response to the 220m proposal right on their doorstep

would it be too much to ask for 240m for FWP south ? heh

OH the possibilities ;)

tays

btw..


i used to work near qbh a year ago

a/ crown 2 is nearly finished in a year


b/ freshwater is still?????????

Was at the site yesterday and they have comenced pouring the lift core base for the north tower. Piling is just about done with the last rig about to be removed from the site.

The tower crane for PWC is in full swing and the core box is getting built now.

They still have some work to do on the basement floor with about 500 sq metres to be poured.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

RE QBH

A little birdy told me a few years ago when QBH first opened, that when the time is right QBH (not the old façade) would be demolished to make way for a 40+ storey resi tower. After spending 3mil fixing QBH up to a ‘hold status’ I reckon he (the gangster who owns it) should get on with the job. Most people are over the QBH anyway. Lets face it, what a prima position. Shit it never occurred to me till just then, maybe that’s the tower he was talking about, Prima. Talk about the penny dropping. It all makes sense now.

Phew I need a fix.

I always wondered about QBH, although I never went there, I can't say I've ever wanted to go - however "Prima" is not proposed for the site

BAH knock it down and build a car park! lol :D

tays

A friend / neighbour of mine has got a contract to do the new marketing campaign for FWP.

He was being a bit coy when asked (privacy agreement) about the south tower.

Makes me wonder!!!!!!!

things are getting exiting now!!!!! So how long approx till we beging to see the core at level 1 etc. Also, can someone explain about Prima.

Thanx guys,
Matt:)

Prima renderings are coming - albeit slowly (waiting for SteveMelb) - watch for another prima thread in Approved / Proposed / Envisioned.

my bet is by June / July FWP North and PWC will both have their cores off the ground!

tays

Man i really wanna see FWP get off the ground!!

im not so sure about the core's Tays. I'd say they'd be on the way up in about a month. PWC's core is already forming and as soon as the excavations are done at FWP i'd say the core will shoot up to a point above the podium then pause as the massive podium floors are completed and then rise steadily thereafter.
Anyway it looks like the core footings for FWP are done, I thought those piling units would never leave. Now it really is a construction site.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwp.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/pwc.JPG

The Sentinel and Crown #2 certainly are making a large presence from that angle now!

maybe it'd be worth doing a poll on when FWP North's core will reach 60 levels ? ;)

tays

Who's building Freshwater?

Richo

I am not sure but I think Australand is building it.

Would I be correct in assuming that in the above pictures from silvermb that the construction site is of one massive podium in which several towers will be built on ???

PriceWaterhouseCoopers = Baulderstone Hornibrook
Freshwater Place North = Delta (foundations right now) but I think I remember silvermb saying that it'll eventually get handed over to Multiplex.

bit of a mish mash.

tays

Today a 2nd crane was being assembled for the office tower!! It has a thumping big illuminating 'AUSTRALAND' sign on the side too complete with logo ...

So while Grocon projects are up in the air at the moment.. FWP and other major projects are gung ho..

Cheers. I thought that 'Australand' was involved but was'nt quite sure.

I guess I don't care who builds it, as long as they do it right and on time.

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Australand is the developer.

I thought ide recheck current heights of the Freshwater developement so i gave Australand a ring and chatted to project architect on Freshwater place!
He said the 60storey tower which is Uc will be 203.3m above ground or RL206.4m (making ground 3.1mRL).
The Price water house office tower will be 160m above ground or 163m above RL.
now heres an interesting turn of events!-the 2nd residential tower is being redesigned lower than originally planned and looks like being same height as office tower due to current residential climate.So approx 160m or 50 storeys the architect mentioned!
anyway should look awesome on completion.
cheers

That's a real shame, although I'm not too disappointed considering that Prima (hopefully) will be right next to it and because it is their only building they would be unlikely to want to build much shorter.

Excavation continuing on FWP North - getting larger by the day.

Southern most "clump" on the PWC corebox looking good at one level above ground (i.e construction of the corebox is at least one level high now) Northern-most clump going nuts too

Here's a fresh pic of today..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Cons/DSC00265.jpg

Note the following:

- CORE BOX !!! Partially completed and they were doing pours into it todaY!

- 2nd Crane !!

- Heaps of concrete was also being poured into the FWP Resi 1 base as well :D


That rooftop must be one of the best construction vantage points anywhere in the world right now!! Unbelievable to see 3 x >>500'ft buildings all going up SO close to each other.. (The Eureka shots are taken from there too of course) ..

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lmao! I just said the same thing in the Eureka thread :D :guns1: :D

tays

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp3001031.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp3001032.jpg

:rock:

tays

Guh, that is definately a commercial sized core box. Not much activity today, the Delta folks were there but the Caelli folks were not. Does anybody have info on a union site agreement, etc?

Blue

Two good photo's Tays

That core box looks pretty big!

And which tower is it as well.

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That core box looks pretty big!

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That is the the Price Water house coopers building..I am pretty sure...

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Not much action today???

I was there this morning and they were hard it .. cranes going beserk.. prefabbed concrete walls trucked in.. and concrete being pumped in over at FWP Resi 1 ..

Maybe they took late arvo off for hot weather..

well, Grocon employees CERTAINLY got half the day off today. About 30 employees with symbols of Eureka and "Proud to be Union" got on my train home..................................

....I though Grocon only employed people from Preston and Thornbury ? lol :D

tays

They'll have most of the week off then! Because of weather! Getting warmer! all week!

Heres a lovely sight from this morning..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Cons/DSC00289.jpg

.. and a Fresh Freshwater update from today (Saturday 8th Feb)

I think I see Core #2 forming at PWC !!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Cons/DSC00297.jpg

Somebody just yell out when they've had enough of seeing my pics ok ? :fiddle: :D

AND SHE'S OFF!

yipeeeeeeeeeeeee!

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Finally!

sorry, too excited there ;)

tays

na keep em coming a-brain!


and yes, as tayser would say...


:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :cheers1: :cheers1: :naughty: :naughty: :nuts: :happy:

Bring on the pics!! Yeah! Now how high will this be at years end?

so i understand the PWCoffice tower is the core? and the 203m/60st res tower is the smaller core in centre?

PWC is the massive double core u can see on the left, not sure why its split like that and the FWP north tower core is just to the left of the yellow mobile crane. they both have some seriously big podiums which u can see by the pile capping running around the outer perimeter. it'll be a lot of work b4 they get into the towers proper

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

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difficult to say - as Dean just said above, there's a lot of work needing done to the podiums - Freshwater just isnt 3 500+ footer towers!, it's a massive network of 2 L-shaped podiums and one rectangular podium.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/newfwprender1.jpg

as ya can see above, the Freshwater North Podium is comparable to 2 of those low-rise black offices which were built when Southgate was originally built!

btw the red dot with an arrow is the place where we take pics from and the direction in which that pic A-brain posted above points

tays

thanks dean & Tays!! thats cleared it up! hey i was just looking at a (undeveloped) site between Eureka & PWC! a 6 storey red brick complex. is that a potential site or heritage?
cheeers:D

probably is, but there are two modern apartment buildings to the North and South of it - won't be getting demolished and rebuilt on anytime soon!

EDIT actually the building to the North of the red-brick building (you can see it just above the red dot) would be ultra awesome for one of us development freaks to live in for the next 3 years, "skyscrapers" going up to the East and West........... tis all good! :D


tays

The red brick building is indeed heritage listed and is one of the few remaining warehouse buildings left on Southbank. It was incorporated into a modern apartment complex in the mid 90's.

Pic from 1985:

http://www.doi.vic.gov.au/doi/hvolr.nsf/LUDL/H828/$file/1_jones_bond_store_southbank_boulevard_southbank_front_end_elevation_aug1985.jpg

What is significant?

The Jones Bond Store was a large complex of store buildings, the first being constructed on the site around 1865. The extant registered buildings are Stores B and C and building No. 11 (demolished in the mid 90's to make way for the apartments).
These probably date from 1888. The B and C stores were constructed of English-bond face brickwork with cast-iron columns and timber floors and roof trusses. The five storeys are delineated by corbelled brick string courses, and arched and flat arched window heads alternate with each floor. An oculus in each gable is surrounded by cream brick with quoins on the four axes. Building 11 was constructed of brick and bluestone and has a shallow gable roof.

Why is it significant?

The Jones Bond Store is of historical significance as one of the largest extant 19th century store complexes in Victoria and one of the few remaining links with Southbank's early industrial and maritime past. The buildings provide evidence of the character of late-19th century warehousing and are a reminder of the fact that the river bank in their vicinity was once a hive of shipping activity. They show how warehouses and shipping freight facilities were more closely integrated in the fabric of the city in the years before containerisation and heavy freight haulage demanded more specialised and separate freight precincts. The simple but substantial character of the buildings reflects Melbourne's growing importance as a port city in the post-gold rush years.The Jones Bond Store is of architectural significance because it documents a development in building design, namely the multi-storey warehouse, a development which was influenced by the introduction of hydraulic lift technology in the mid 1880s

I thought I remembered someone saying it was indeed heritage listed ;)

tays

What I'd like to see is a similar view as that shown above..incorporating Prima as well. eh? eh?;)

Blue the Martin Kingham hater

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hrm.... aren;t you "architecturally minded" so to speak ? ever worked with CAD ? you could probably come up with the goods :D

tays

BTW went to the FWP display suite again today - the site models have been updated to reflect the info culwulla found out....

FWP South looks to be just on 500 feet / 152 metres. (what was it again cul ?)

although the bragging rights have gone (lmao!) it's quite good, the towers now step up to each other!

BTW, it seems the FWP South tower will have a different "market configuration" I dont expect to see it up for sale for a while yet though.

Regardless of which, this is still the absolute cream of the crop of ALL Australian developments well underway atm IMO!

tays

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>BTW went to the FWP display suite again today - the site models have been updated to reflect the info culwulla found out....

FWP South looks to be just on 500 feet / 152 metres. (what was it again cul ?)

although the bragging rights have gone (lmao!) it's quite good, the towers now step up to each other!

BTW, it seems the FWP South tower will have a different "market configuration" I dont expect to see it up for sale for a while yet though.

Regardless of which, this is still the absolute cream of the crop of ALL Australian developments well underway atm IMO!

tays</td></tr>
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FWP will look good with the step up! You are right! Going from FWP south then PWC and FWP north would look quite nice.. then Prima will fill the hieght out at the back!

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>BTW went to the FWP display suite again today - the site models have been updated to reflect the info culwulla found out....

FWP South looks to be just on 500 feet / 152 metres. (what was it again cul ?)

although the bragging rights have gone (lmao!) it's quite good, the towers now step up to each other!

BTW, it seems the FWP South tower will have a different "market configuration" I dont expect to see it up for sale for a while yet though.

Regardless of which, this is still the absolute cream of the crop of ALL Australian developments well underway atm IMO!

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Poo bum sh*t!

Oh well hopefuly it'll still be that magical 152m so we can count it as another 500fter !

I was told by architects the FWP south would be equal height to the Price Waterhouse office tower which is 160m!
did the model look like that tays! or lower?
cheers

lower, but only just, but the FWP North model might still be @ the original 220 metres, who knows, but the stepped effect does look quite good though!

tays

Something I never noticed about that aerial rendering of the whole site - what is that little wedge shaped site of 2x 2-3 storey buildings in between the podiums beside the front tower facing the casino?? Obviously, it is not part of the new development, but are those buildings heritage listed or owned by the developers? Obvioulsy, there would be no chance of their redevelopment since it would block views from FWP......

sorry - this question has probably been answered a million times already!

That big white domed building is 'QBH' ( Queensbridge Hotel) one of the largest clubs in Australia. Not sure if its closed or open at the moment due to whats happening around it.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

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If you look to the right of the skinny Freshwater Place building that extends between the lower buildings, to the building on the corner, that is the site for Prima Tower!

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QBH is open for business .. but remains a 'special event' nightclub as it has been for some time.. hosting Dance Parties and the like.. is also going under the name 'Dome' at the moment..

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>BTW went to the FWP display suite again today - the site models have been updated to reflect the info culwulla found out....

FWP South looks to be just on 500 feet / 152 metres. (what was it again cul ?)

although the bragging rights have gone (lmao!) it's quite good, the towers now step up to each other!

BTW, it seems the FWP South tower will have a different "market configuration" I dont expect to see it up for sale for a while yet though.

Regardless of which, this is still the absolute cream of the crop of ALL Australian developments well underway atm IMO!

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OFFICAL HEIGHT OF FRESHWATER PLACE 2 IS 154m!!!
I contacted Bates Smart today and this is new height with 46 storeys. So it scrapes in the 500ft club!!pheww:D
the architect told me its just lower than the lower shoulder of freshwater 1 .and 6m lower than office tower!

cheers

Cool...thanx Cul. Not as good as 203m, but at least it will be over the 500ft mark!!! Also, the 'step' effect should be nice.

Thanx guys,
Matt:)

thanks culwulla!

tays

The news keeps getting worse re FWP .. but again and again I have to think "It's better than nothing!"

And there is always Prima ...

Southbank really will be a staircase with from left-to-right 152m-154m-203m-160m-297m ..

Core Rise

The northern half of the Waterhouse core is now level with the other, I'll upload the pics when I get home.

tays

the two (now) same height cores:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp2402031.jpg

heaps of PWC podium has been done:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp2402033.jpg

and excavation continues here, 2 crane "beginnings" and the core seems to be getting longer:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp2402032.jpg

4 cranes @ FWP + 2 @ Eureka + 15 or so others on Southbank = :rock:

tays

VERy cool.
Thanx for the pics tayser.

Matt:)

That is one very large development

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...and they're only building on 2/3rds of the site / development today, wait til FWP South heads skyward.....!

tays

You can see from the core just how thin and long FWP North is going to be. It would have to be the thinnest tall tower in Australia.

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Do you know its exact width dimension? im always on lookout for new -"tallest to width ratio". the current holder in Australia is World tower. At 230m its 30m wide at front, thus divide 230 by 30 = ratio of 7.66.
I just measured your diagram of freshwater north on skyscraperpage and its width is just under 24m , so height /width ratio = 8.5!
thats so thin!
can you confirm width?
cheers

Found this pic of what was on the Site before FWP the CUB sign!

http://www.urbanphoto.org/melbourne/photos/aerial/109-0970_IMG.JPG

And look at the Eureka site - nothing there! Melburnian still U/C as well

Any seen anything else happening on FWP north lately either ?

tays

Core rise, took these yesterday:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp0303032.jpg

This core's emerging even more every day:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp0303031.jpg

and from the ground

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp0303033.jpg

You won't believe this.. but the left core has risen AGAIN today since those photos of yours yesterday tays !!!

Seriously.. today it had risen another 1/2 floor while they where still pouring!!

This is the sort of construction I like to see.. it strkes me as being very no-muckin-around Sydney or Asian style of construction.. minimal shoddy looking core box.. and just ferkin pour it and rise it!!

None of this Grocon "Everything must be done by the book and oh if theres a drop of rain or a bit of cloud then we better wait till tomorrow but no thats friday so it better be next Tuesday' kind of painstaking construction !!!

I love it.. anyway I hope this very non-Melbourne pace of construction continues !!

I don't get it. Is that main core part the core of the residential tower of Freshwater place ? And if not what is it ? If the office tower of Freshwater place and the residential are on the same podium then what is that second picture where they are just starting work on the foundations ?

That main core is the office builidng, sharing the podium with the south residential tower next to it. The foundations they're laying at the front are for the north resi tower.

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Cool Thanks for that. So the core hasn't started rising for the residential tower yet.

Nope, not yet. Some ways to go for that..and the podium itself will take till the end of this year at least! It's a very substantial podium, similar proportions to QV's retail component.

Blue

Good pictures. Good to see the first tower/s begining their rise into the clouds.

very cool, thank for the pictires tayser. That is one BIG core...havn't been to Southbank for a while, so I'll have to check it out.

@A-Brain: Maybe the core is like Eureka's, and each rise is two floors.

Thanx guys,
Matt:)

No way Jose!! In fact it's almost exactly the opposite!

i.e. We seem to be getting a core rise every few days.. and each rise is like 1/2 a floor!!

As opposed to Eureka which rises once every fortnight and rises 2 floors all in one big go on one day..

Got it ? ! :nuts:

lol, nice re: frequent core rises ;D

if that's the case (i.e everyu few days there's a core rise) then PWC (and HOPEFULLY they'll do FWP like that too) won't be as painfully slow as Eureka :P

tays

cool A-Brain...I got it!!!

I wish all buildings in Melbourne were growing like this. Maybe when they start the floor plates of PWC the core rises will slow down...hopefully not!

Thanx guys,
Matt:)

A completely different format for the core rise cycle is being employed on this site as opposed to Eureka...I haven't quite figured it out yet. The BIG core is characteristic of a solely commercial tower where service ducts, lifts, AC ducts and toilets must be accomodated therein - as opposed to a residential tower where each apartment carries much of its own facilities. Sounds like stating the obvious. :nuts: No matter.

Blue

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Actually no.. its good you pointed this out!! In hindsight yes it does seem obvious but I had wondered for a while why BHP had such a huuuuuuge core and QV has such a tiny one considering its taller..

Also further to my construction report.. the South Core of PWC (to be proper) has indeed risen another complete floor !!! No doubt the North Core will follow in a few days...

This baby is rising faster than hot cross buns on easter sunday!

damnit, I had my camera and all today

Adrian, will you be going by Freshwater anytime this week ?

tays

Yeah can do.. as early as tomorrow.. haven't had my camera with me for the past week or so.. after HK I've been all digicammed out! And I've been waiting for some major developments .. like the V on Eureka's spine to form..

But yeah I'll head out. and snap a bit of Eureka's new sliding wall pour box thats been installed! :D

Here we go...

I know it doesn't look like its risen (from tays pics above) but it sure has!!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00379.jpg

Also note the concrete floor that's been laid over at Resi North since tays last pic !!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00380.jpg

A slightly different angle, but note Crown Casino 2 has topped out in the background !!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/DSC00383.jpg

:banana: :banana: :banana: ;) :D :guns1:

looks like the ground level lift entries are going to have quite "high" ceilings! maybe that's why they're rising so fast ? no floors to construct / pour so low down ?

tays

In the first pic of A-brains they are excavating on the east side of the FWP north...

What is that going be in that corner?? Is it the continuation of the resi tower?

the core looks so huge...i like FWP itll fit in nicely w/ eureka!

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Nah just more of the plaza podium base.. remember they got to dig the entire area out to that concrete border on the right of pic..

Things keep happening daily down at PWC now!! Today they had the first outer column supports for the floor being poured! And yes this baby should have a heee-ewwwge entry foyer/atrium ..
just like in the grand tradtion of 70's & 80's office buildings!!

And yeah.. like I said the core rising is freaking amazing.. they literally rise it while they pour .. never seen anything like it in Melbourne..

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Nah just more of the plaza podium base.. remember they got to dig the entire area out to that concrete border on the right of pic..

Things keep happening daily down at PWC now!! Today they had the first outer column supports for the floor being poured! And yes this baby should have a heee-ewwwge entry foyer/atrium ..
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A-Brain, I see that you're REALLY lapping up the Southbank developments! Onya!
:D

Well ? why not Blabbyboy ? No other part of any city in Australia is getting such a drastic such as Southbank, 0 500 footers 6 - 7 years ago, to potentially having 6 in 3 years time all in one quite small & confined area ? BRING IT ON.

:guns1: ;) :D :cool:

tays

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/sx_pwcsouthbank_2003_03_06.JPG

Nice pic SMB!

What are the constucting at the north of the site? Near where the resi core will go? Or is that just the advertising signs coming down?

yeah pretty sure it's the advertisement coming down - it'll no doubt go back up though!

tays

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp1103031.jpg

A-Brain: that the level you last saw it at ? it's gone up one whole floor since I saw it last (and it rose again afterwards ?!?!)

tays

Correct weight tays.. thats the level it's at in my pics from above..

D'OH

*slaps himself*

This is amazing the pace of simultaneous core pouring & rising at PWC !!

Today they were pouring it and rising it again!! The South core was going up.. and no doubt the North core will follow it in a few days..

This is since all the previous pics from tays and myself !! You can really see the size of the foyer roof as well..

The best angle now is from Power St opposite Southbank condos .. you can look through the fence now and see the massive PWC boxes rising with Eureka towering over it in the background!!

Sadly today I had no time for pics!! And I'm going away as I mentioned in the E thread so someone get down at get to Power St !!

schweet

I'm in tomorrow and will grab some pics - however silvermb was in today, he might have got some!

tays

WOW...this things is growing at an amazing rate!!!

So do they actually pore the core as it's rising or something??? And then rise again a few days later when the pour has dried??

Do you think once the floor plates start getting built the core rises will slow down? At this rate the tower will be finished by next year, lol.

Thanx guys,
Matt:)

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>WOW...this things is growing at an amazing rate!!!

So do they actually pore the core as it's rising or something??? And then rise again a few days later when the pour has dried??

Do you think once the floor plates start getting built the core rises will slow down? At this rate the tower will be finished by next year, lol.

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At this rate, it might even overtake Eureka for a little while if Grocon don't hurry things up!

Hehehe.

I hope these UC pix are being put on ss.com. the new bldgs have a construction section so you can see its progress! alot like what were doing!lol
Ive put 55 pix for WT alone!

much more grey gold been poured, 3 crane "bases" now visible:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp1403031.jpg

lopsided again:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp1403032.jpg

Podium coming along - only metres between two 500+ footers! (will be like WT and LATITUDE!):

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp1403033.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp1403034.jpg

tays

You won't be able to take that pic from under the trees soon at this rate!

Those cranes look ominous! Won't be long until it is looking like QV!!!! YAHOOO!

lol

I think 5 cranes on Freshwater will push the Southbank count towards 20 or over the mark...

:guns1:

tays

LOL tayser @ "grey gold" :laugh:

Geez, you blink for 3 seconds and open your eyes and FWP is developing so quickly. Faster than you can say "Jack Robinson" :dizzy: !!

Good on ya Southbank :okay: .

What's going to happen with the Resi North tower. Is it going to lag along behind the commervcial tower like QV or will they both sprout up together?

Also What's the prognosis for the south tower. I know it depends on sales etc but does anyone know if/when it's goin to be marketed or do they still have to sell the first tower out?

Anyway it's good to see action ont his site pretty constantly, hope they press the Grocon boys to push their hardest:D

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Also What's the prognosis for the south tower. I know it depends on sales etc but does anyone know if/when it's goin to be marketed or do they still have to sell the first tower out?

Anyway it's good to see action ont his site pretty constantly, hope they press the Grocon boys to push their hardest:D</td></tr>
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the north tower is progreesing well! the south t ower will apparently start next year!

i was talking to a guy this week (a person I was dealing with at work) that only 30% of the apartments have sold, yet they are still building!

I also heard that they are changing their marketing campaign as well, due to these low sales.

They sure must have confidence that they will sell the apartments. Or maybe if they don't build the number of apartments then retailers (like the supermarket) or businesses would pull out of the project. But that's just me guessing!


James.

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>i was talking to a guy this week (a person I was dealing with at work) that only 30% of the apartments have sold, yet they are still building!

I also heard that they are changing their marketing campaign as well, due to these low sales.

They sure must have confidence that they will sell the apartments. Or maybe if they don't build the number of apartments then retailers (like the supermarket) or businesses would pull out of the project. But that's just me guessing!


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Is that the South tower? Or the North Tower? The North tower better be built that is all i can say!

Not sure, but I'm pretty sure it's all getting built even with only 30% sold.

James.

that's gotta be old info joed... you look at the Freshwater Displays and there's a hell of a lot more sold than that.

I dont think Australand would risk only building with 30% anyhow.

ah well, as long as it goes ahead.

Plus South will be a different market configuration I think (so different ball game again)

tays

Just passing on what i heard.

Thanks Tays.

30% sold is incorrect. The last time i checked out the display suite it was about 60% sold.

Multi apartment buildings uaually need a minimum of 1/3 sales to gain funding and this is also a good break even point indicator. Any sales after this are a profit for the developer.

However some banks stipulate that at least 50% or more of the units are sold before funding is granted.(eg. Victoria Point neeed 70% sales b4 being granted funds to build). it just depends on the bank, who the developer is, and the type of developement.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

'Offices for Lease'

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Yes another core rise since the previous set of pics.. and progress on building the first floor!!

The pace of construction at PWC is continuing to be RED HOT !! :cool: :cool:

...I really can't tell with PWC's core nowadays, I was up there on that car park with Steve and silvermb on friday and didn't even notice the core's had risen since I last took pics......... maybe once they start numbering the core lol

top pics A-brain.... good to be back in Crane City ? :guns1: :D :)

tays

Nice to see the core racing ahead.

And great to see more concrete on the site.

noticed on the train there's been another core rise since A-brains latest pics, we're back to level-ness now, although will probably be lop-sided again in a few days lol ;)

You've gotta love the rapid core rises.

Especially with 2 cores half the posts in the thread will soon be about a core rise (hopefully) :D

No painful wait like Eureka.

Yes Sir !! Another week another core rise !! This is really staying true to the axiom '1 floor a week' if ever there was one..

Since my previous pics.. both cores have clearly risen another floor..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/FWP/DSC00410.jpg

Check out Sentinal dominating the background with still 5 or 6 floors to go !!

And Now.... Crane Number the 3rd !!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/FWP/DSC00409.jpg

With more and more concrete on the ground at Resi 1 ..

nice nice nice and more niceness!

it'll be at its best when all 3 Resi North cranes are up.

Edging ever so freaking close to seeing a corebox !

btw A-brain, check your PMs :D

tays

Forgot this one...

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/FWP/DSC00408.jpg

Sweet! Well done on your rap around A-brain! I want to live in the city like you do! I'd go out every day!

Do you think they could keep the 1 floor a week core rise up?? It will catch Eureka! hehe!

Great pics!

Freshwater is going up pretty quickly - like a skyscraper should :)

Great pics A-brain.


James.

FWP construction schedule:

January 2003: Commerical tower starts (core box)
April 2003: North Residential construction starts (core box)
January 2004: South Residnetial construction starts (core box)
December 2004: Commerical tower completion
October 2005: North Residential Completion
January 2006: South Residential Completion

Is that a revised timetable Grollo?

MG2

Those are the dates quoted by Australand in their 2002 annual report. over two and a half years construction for the north tower sounds a bit long, but thats what they reckon.

guess I missed you by a few minutes A-brain

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and some more..............

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I'd love to know when they're planning on putting a core box on FWP 1 :? :?

But I'm sure it'll get there eventaully..

Notice inplace pumping arm for PWC so the core rises should hopefully continue just as often!! In fact we are probably due for one right now...

Yesterday:

http://www.zenid.net/upload/images/12.jpg

ahhhh! they were constructing, or doing something to that yellow thing yesterday, so it turns out it's a puntzmeister!

..learn something new everyday as they say ;)

tays

Speaking of learning something new, what's a puntzmeister when it's at home?:?

massive one of the whole FWP site (sorry 56kers):

http://home.iprimus.com.au/gnahas/fwp-riversidequay-cp_pano_33pc.jpg

also notice the entrance to the basement:

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Its a German Concrete pump !

I'm looking forward to seeing what the area will be like in a few months from now. No-one be able to see the CBD from that intersection and the skyline over Southbank will be full of rising scrapers. We won't be able to see further down either.

Will there be more cranes? Who knows?

What would be cool is if someone could locate a view from the south and take a few of all the cranes in place on southbank in a big panorama...Like on top of one of those WG Freeway ramps.

Blue

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There are still 2 more cranes to go up at the FWP site!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp0904031.jpg

There has been another core rise down at PWC the past few days.. interestingly for the first time the North Core (the one closer to the river) rose ahead of the South Core !!

Anyways the newly exposed section of the north core now has a big number '4' on it .. which going back to those previous photos means this must be including also a G level as well as level 1 .. since it appears to be the 5th floor including ground.

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sweet, the camera's "coming out to play" tomorrow (been too busy these past two weeks)

who's up for a Rialto geezer ? how many people have got their VIP memberships ?

00p 00p :)

tays

Only that little section of Hobson's bay Silt to cover then the whole site (including FWP South's "now" car park) will be concreted up ;)

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4 it up:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/fwp1704042.jpg

200m directly up

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:cool:

bumped so as thread wont get deleted

Yesterday's age:

High Hopes as Freshwater swims against tide

Construction of the residential tower at listed developer Australand's $700 Million Freshwater Place will start this week with the appointment yesterday of construction giant Multiplex to the project. Multiplex will join builder Baulderstone Hornibrook on the site as it completes the neighbouring PriceWaterhouseCoopers office tower for Australand. Construction of the 528 apartments in the Australand tower will be complete by 2005, after marketing started almost one year ago. Australand general manager Rob Pradolin said fewer than half the apartments had been sold in that time, Sales had slowed, despite a recent rise in the number of inquiries, as the market for inner-city apartments softened, he said. "There is no sense of urgency in the marketplace now because of the negativity out in the apartment market generated by the Federal Government and the Reserve Bank," Mr Pradolin said. "The announcement that construction would begin at Freshwater Place was a vote of confidence in the current residential market in Melbourne and the public company's confidence in this key landmark."

April 30, 2003. Property: Commercial Market The Age - Hopes high as Freshwater swims against tide (Susannah Petty?) Page 9, Business Section.

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High Hopes as Freshwater swims against tide

Construction of the residential tower at listed developer Australand's $700 Million Freshwater Place will start this week with the appointment yesterday of construction giant Multiplex to the project. Multiplex will join builder Baulderstone Hornibrook on the site as it completes the neighbouring PriceWaterhouseCoopers office tower for Australand. Construction of the 528 apartments in the Australand tower will be complete by 2005, after marketing started almost one year ago. Australand general manager Rob Pradolin said fewer than half the apartments had been sold in that time, Sales had slowed, despite a recent rise in the number of inquiries, as the market for inner-city apartments softened, he said. "There is no sense of urgency in the marketplace now because of the negativity out in the apartment market generated by the Federal Government and the Reserve Bank," Mr Pradolin said. "The announcement that construction would begin at Freshwater Place was a vote of confidence in the current residential market in Melbourne and the public company's confidence in this key landmark."

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Well a big friggin 'PHEW' to that !!

Still less than half sold ?? That is amazing.. they should probably re-price them.. but they are very wise to push ahead as I think people will snap em up when they see how glorious this precinct will be .. and how much better it will look than it does now..

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And it might sell even quicker now that we're told that Hocking & Stuart are doing a full-on hard sell on the last of the Eureka apartments, meaning that potential purchasers in the area will be diverted to Freshwater if they want part of the action/views.

this is really positive news! lets hope other large projects also take off.

Yeah.. I think they are very wise.. if they held off and the precinct is only 1/3 developed with a cement hole where FWP1 is then it would be a disaster.. they will reap the rewards in the long run..

Other news: ANOTHER core rise at PWC today! Level 5 now exposed, so it's maintaining its steam :D

Looking very "BIG" too it is.. the core is massive and already having a huge presence at Southbank..

Rode past this morning and it was great to see the North core at level 5. Also good to see dozens of workmen working and what looked like the beinning of a core for FWP north. Here's hoping.:cheers:

Yep.. and more GOOD NEWS today !!!

Check it out boys .. Crane Number The Fourth!! going up as we speak .. :D

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/FWP/DSC00441.jpg

So all is in readiness for Resi #1 to rise ..

Heres a rather distant shot of PWC now at level 5 exposed !

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/FWP/DSC00444.jpg

useless observation #1:

the Northern Core[bank] is now leading the rises - used to be the southern core[bank]

lol, nice pics Ay-djin :D

tays

useless obsservation #2

Multiplex aren't piss farting around! The 1FWP core's looking mighty fine - even though it's just a skeleton (lol!)

Stood there watching FWP for about 20 minutes today, only gave Eureka about 10 seconds of my attention

*tee hee*

carry on... :)

tays

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Multiplex aren't piss farting around! The 1FWP core's looking mighty fine - even though it's just a skeleton (lol!)

Stood there watching FWP for about 20 minutes today, only gave Eureka about 10 seconds of my attention

*tee hee*

carry on... :)

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Must have missed you again!! Keep SMS'ing me when your gonna be around.. I was up there bout 1:30ish ...

As you prob know then they were pourin'n'raisin the south PWC core to Level 5 today to match the North.. gotta love that simultaneous pour and rise !!!

Yeah FWP does look as if they are beginning to assemble a core.. at least there seems to be a bit of activity.. I like the 'freshwater place' logo (grammar intended) on the crane itself, ready to light up at night!

Another useless observation is that almost all of the basement of the entire footprint of the complex (minus FWP2 of course) is virtually all laid in concrete now..

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Multiplex aren't piss farting around! The 1FWP core's looking mighty fine - even though it's just a skeleton (lol!)

Stood there watching FWP for about 20 minutes today, only gave Eureka about 10 seconds of my attention

*tee hee*

carry on... :)

Erk, I believe I also just missed you...but seeing as I've never MET you before, I wouldn't know what to look for ;) . When you up there usually?

Blue

What the?

Oh, I see what i did, I typed my stuff within the box codes. Oops.

Blue

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...and we shake it to the left :banana: and we shake it to the right :banana: :guns1: :D

Well if there is an antithesis (you know.. polar opposite) of the snoozers :drool: :sleepy: progress over at #7 Riverside Quay .. it's this baby right here !!!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/FWP/DSC00457.jpg

Boo-ya Level 6 coming out of the oven as we speak.. how frigging fast do they wanna go ??? Level 5 barely had time to dry !!

I think I'll start a new poll:

Q: WILL PWC@FWP overtake Eureka in floorheight before it is finished??

I think I know who I'm voting for.. :D

I also reckon they should rename it.. instead of PWC they should call it:

NMA@FWP = No Muckin Around !!

You know A-Brain, when PWC first started rising, and so rapidly may I add, I jokingly said that it had a chance of beating the Eureka core before it tops out!

Obviously, it's looking more likely then ever now!

It's always good to see :
A) people WORKING on this site whenever I go past to have a squiz
B) something new when I go up the Rialto :D

Well the PWC South core had a pour'n'rise today to bring it level with the North Core .. both Level 6 exposed.

Also.. without pre-empting some shots I think silvermb took today.. there appears to be the beginnings of the core of FWP Resi 1 taking place..

If it turns out the way it appears to be assembled.. it will be one of the longest yet narrowest cores we've ever seen! To match the building shape itself which is extremely long yet narrow..

Yes indeedy, from the look of where the larger columns are place (indicating the extent of where the towers loads are arriving at the foundation), she'll be a ridiculously slender looking thing , a la the John Hancock Building in Boston by I.M. Pei.

A hive of activity down there today, streuth its an exciting place to tour!!

(Translation; too much time on my hands and too easily distracted from Uni.)

D'OE!

Blue

im trying to work out how high FWP nth is at moment? is it above ground ?
I noticed the office tower is rising quite rapidly!
:)

Getting the number 1 tram past the Gallery for Comtemporary Art (the big rusty building), the core is getting pretty noticalbe now. Will really fill in that void and block out the view of the CBD.

I'm just going to have to look past all those residentual towers though :)


James.

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Nope nothing really above ground yet other than a few scaffolding poles..

In tays first pic in his last set you can see the beginnings of the inner core walls being assembled.. as I noted previous it is a very long and thin core !!

It's being assembled at basement level so will be a little while yet before it gets above ground..

Trust us you'll be the first to know!

PWC is now full Level 6 exposed.. Cul (or anyone) do you have good plans of PWC, # of floors & floor heights etc ?

Freshwater [you good thing] soon to be filling a skyline void near you ;)

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Wow, that pic almost looks like a movie set!

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...only difference being it's a live image updated by the minute ;)

load the page, wait a minute, and refresh and see if FWP's cranes are still swinging ;)

tays

not quite sure whether its part of the core or a separate parking elevator shaft but it looks like I saw the first core pour today. One to remember.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/fwppc_20030515.JPG