Today's AFR ( page 52) reports that a DA for a 21 storey office tower has been lodged for Waymouth St in Adelaide by developer Domenic Mattoli.
It will be a tight fit, being only 6.2m wide x 27 m long in the gap right next to the Allegra Hotel !!
The A grade office tower will be a "landmark" and be strata title ( each floor of 180 sqm will sell for $570,000 ) meaning that there's a good chance of it going ahead sooner rather than later !
Architect is Paul Pruszinksi.
The render of it in the AFR has it looking at pretty much the same height at the Allegra and because there is only a 1.6% vacancy rate for A grade offices in the Adel CBD so fingers crossed that it will go ahead soon.
Cool !

What gap? On Waymouth street the Allegra is bordered by anopther street (where the new resi is going :D) and the telstra exchange. Unless you mean between the exchange and that 10 storey government building (which IMO is one hot looking biatch) then there we go....

the DA isn't on the adelaide city council's website yet.

Spaz, can you scan the render? I can't help but think this will be the most stupid looking building ever.... 6m lol :D

Here's the article !

Office tower for the skinny latte set
Aug 07 Mathew Chandler

Melbourne developer Domenic Mattioli is seeking to build what could quite possibly be Australia's skinniest A-grade office tower, The Pinnacle.

Mr Mattioli has lodged plans with the City of Adelaide to develop a 21-storey office tower on a site alongside his five-star Rendezvous Allegra Hotel in Waymouth Street which will target owner occupiers.

It's a tight fit. The new building will have a street frontage of just 6.2 metres and stretch 27 metres from Waymouth Street to an access lane.

Mr Mattioli said this was definitely a building for a small businessman.

The first privately funded project in a decade comes at a time when vacancies in premium-grade office stock are running at an incredibly low 1.6 per cent, although vacancies in A-grade stock are now at 8.4 per cent.

But, rather than seek tenants, Mr Mattioli will strata title the development, selling whole floors for a starting price of $570,000.

The floor plates are just 180 square metres, including room for two lifts and bathroom facilities, and allow a staff per floor of just 10.

Designed by South Australian architect Paul Pruszinski and engineered by Meinhardt PT Design to maximise use of its narrow site, The Pinnacle could be a landmark for years to come.

"The building has been designed to meet a need for stand-alone, high-quality executive and professional accommodation in the CBD," Mr Mattioli said. "I see a significant opportunity in this building and in other niche property markets in Adelaide and will continue to invest in South Australia as a means of realising those opportunities."

Mr Mattioli has spent more than $85 million developing Adelaide properties over the past five years and has developed a broad range of residential, commercial and industrial properties in Melbourne since 1969.

His decision to develop alongside Allegra surprised some people.

Colliers International's head of commercial in South Australia, Paul van Reesema, was taken aback. "There's no land next to the Allegra," he said.

But there is, just not much of it. Mr Mattioli's purchase of the property three months ago went mostly unnoticed by Adelaide's property community.

Selling agent Tony Ricketts of Bernard Booth Commercial said the project would give small business operators the option of buying a whole floor of space on a community title.

Mr Mattioli's other projects in South Australia include the Pacific International Apartments on Frome Street.

His newest venture will have high-speed cabling networks, incorporate a range of "green building technologies" and be served by twin lifts.

Well fuck me!! 2 days and 2 20+ storey proposals - YEE HAA top find Spaz!!!

theres an artist impression in todays AFR. its nestled in between Allegra hotel and the other bldg. same height. The Pinnacle is just a glass facade with vertical floors panels up to flat roof. its basically a gap filler but it uses its own walls as reinforcement , (not attached to neighbouring bldgs).
So i gave architects a ring and spoke to Paul Pruszinski himself! nice guy! he told me height is 66m to roof and 8m LMR total=74m.
(So ill add 5m to Allegras height of 61m which has been its unofficial height for a while).

Paul was happy about it being thinnest skyscraper in Australia!!!

i told him so far the 203m Freshwater place in melbourne has ratio of 8;1 (203m divided by 25m wide).
Pinnacle in Adelaide will be 12;1! 74m x 6.2m wide. wow!
ill add to ss.com!

I had a look tonight, and there is a gap, a friggin small one, but one none the less!

It'd be pretty hard to construct such a narrow building of that height, let alone fit a crane in that gap!

It will be very interesting to see just how they'll do it!! Especially since the building will have twin lifts - narrow as core maybe?

From today's Advertiser:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/pinnacle.jpg

And this is the gap the building will be in:
http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2002-12-10/picture008_std.jpg

Twin lifts strikes me as totally inadequate for 20 stories of tenants.

But $570k/floor is actually pretty god damn cheap. Good investment maybe!

hk

hk-star, I was thinking exactly the same. They could at least split the elevator areas into two, and have an express elevator to one of the middle floors, (preferably 11) and then another 2 from there.

We now know, that this will be Australia's thinnest building.

Could it be the world's thinnest habitable building?

If not, what is the world's thinnest building?

The thinnest inhabitable skyscraper in the world is a 16 floor tall building with 4x4m wide floorplates in Hong Kong.

Originally posted by AG
The thinnest inhabitable skyscraper in the world is a 16 floor tall building with 4x4m wide floorplates in Hong Kong.

How the hell do they fit an elevator in it?!

Sorry, I shoulda explained clearer, the floorplates are 4x4m in length, not including to small section that juts on one corner for the elevator. An elevator would still fit inside that building, but would take about about 3 sq m.

Originally posted by Will
We now know, that this will be Australia's thinnest building.

Could it be the world's thinnest habitable building?

If not, what is the world's thinnest building?
if your after a really tall bldg (as opposed to a 16 floor/45m bldg in HK),the Rio de Janeiro Manhattan Tower!!
Rio´s tower is 114 meters high and only 8 meters wide. Divide 114/8 and you get 14 meters high for each meter wide. A ratio of 14! Its the highest ration in the world.
the waymouth scraper is 12-1 so thats pretty close.

The Pinnacle might not be the thinnest building in the world, but could it be the thinnest building in the Souhtern Hemisphere?

Culwulla,

Do you have a photo of Rio's Manhattan Tower?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/pinnaclesite.jpg

Huge!

Couldn't even parallel park a car there.

crappness that is mighty thin, you would think adelaide was short of space! I would expect something like that from NYC, the floors would probably only fit 2 people, it will make a nice skyscraper wall

Originally posted by chrisaus
crappness that is mighty thin, you would think adelaide was short of space! I would expect something like that from NYC, the floors would probably only fit 2 people, it will make a nice skyscraper wall

2 people? It's 27m deep!

I would image there would be little light filtering through the further to the center of the floor plates you get.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AtD
[B]http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/pinnaclesite.jpg

How funny does that little house look, in between those 2 big buildings?

It must have been approved for them to be selling the bee-atch. Fuck that itty bitty shitter off and bring in the crane!!

What an odd proposal...its so damn thin, amazing! oh well, beggars cant be choosers, better than nothing, and will make good scraper wall!:cool:

Originally posted by pikey
It must have been approved for them to be selling the bee-atch. Fuck that itty bitty shitter off and bring in the crane!!

Would they really need a crane for something like this? Just have some guy with a rope on the top of Allegra! :D

haa, good point Adam!!! All we need now is a gian glass structure to be built around the fucking ugly exchange building next door, and I will be happy. God i am selfish

haa, good point Adam!!! All we need now is a giant glass structure to be built around the fucking ugly exchange building next door, and I will be happy. God i am selfish

Long high and slim office tower
Adelaide council has received a proposal for a 21 storey office building in Waymouth Street, and if the plans are to be believed, it will be one of Australia’s slimmest commercial towers.

The site has a street frontage of just 6.2 metres and is 27 metres deep, giving the proposed tower a long thin footprint. Each level will have a maximum floor plate of just 170 square metres and the relatively small size of each level means it will appeal to the small commercial owner occupier market.

The unusual nature of the proposal means it has been classified as a non-complying development and it will have to go through a public notification process before demolition of the existing two storey office building is allowed to proceed.

Where'd you find this Chris??

www.propertyweb.com.au

what would be the height ratio of this tower?

from todays paper:

NEW plans to demolish a historic 1880s North Adelaide house may be approved by Adelaide City Council tonight.
In June, the council's development assessment panel voted 11-1 to reject plans by Bill Kay Architect to demolish the cottage at 47-53 Wellington Square to make way for four, two-storey townhouses.

The panel ruled the proposed townhouses were not set back enough from the square and would not contribute to the desired character of the area.

An appeal against the panel's decision has been lodged in the Environment, Resources and Development Court.

An amended plan has been submitted to the council which has a revised setback of 8.6m from Wellington Square and 4m from the rear boundary.

A staff report, to be tabled tonight, said the revised setback from Wellington Square "addresses the issues raised in the reasons for refusal".

Staff have recommended that the amended design be approved. The North Adelaide Society and the National Trust have objected to the proposed demolition.

Also, plans for one of the most "needle-like" developments in the city will be considered tonight. Staff have recommended the panel proceed to assess plans for a $13 million, 21-level office building at 63-65 Waymouth St.

The Pinnacle development would be 6.2m wide, 27m deep and 64.5m high. Plans have been lodged by Pruszinski Architects, on behalf of the Mattioli Group.

The development would involve demolishing the existing two-storey office building, between the 20-level five-star Rendezvous Allegra Hotel and the 21-level Telstra Exchange building. While there is an oversupply of lower-grade office space in the CBD, the development aims to capitalise on the record low levels of A grade and premium office space.

If approved, work may begin in October and would be completed in early 2005.

cool

does the 1880's building have much heritage significance or is is just an ugly one? cause thats a pretty old building....

N.F.I sorry

Originally posted by chrisaus
does the 1880's building have much heritage significance or is is just an ugly one? cause thats a pretty old building....

Nothing on Wellington Square has any significance. :)

This project got approval last night from the Council last night aswell as the 16 level apartment tower on Synagogue place. 2 tower approvals - Sweeeet!

Hurry up an approve the rest of them! :)

Originally posted by AtD
Nothing on Wellington Square has any significance. :)


Actually there are 2 very nice pubs from the 1800's in Wellington Square.

Originally posted by pikey
This project got approval last night from the Council last night aswell as the 16 level apartment tower on Synagogue place. 2 tower approvals - Sweeeet!

This is strange. The 16 level tower did not make it onto the ACC's development comments page, even though it's a category 3 development (outside height limit for the area). Maybe the council is just brushing off NIMBY's altogether now? :D

Originally posted by yob
This is strange. The 16 level tower did not make it onto the ACC's development comments page, even though it's a category 3 development (outside height limit for the area). Maybe the council is just brushing off NIMBY's altogether now? :D

I was looking at the development panel's minutes from its meeting on Monday.

The Synagogue apartments have only been approved, so they can move to the second stage of assessment.

This means that a public consultation process will now take place, before final approval can take place.

This is the same story for the Pinnacle.

Originally posted by Will
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AtD
[B]http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/pinnaclesite.jpg

How funny does that little house look, in between those 2 big buildings?

shit i knew it was skinny but that skinny. its gonna look shit

Rio´s Manhattan tower is 114 meters tall and 8 meters wide.

Thats 14,8 meters height for each meter wide.

Whats the proportion of this tower in Australia?

just found the info
"12;1! 74m x 6.2m wide"

Manhattan Tower is still the skinniest tower in the southern hemisphere, maybe in the world, but I dont know about the skinny ration of that tower in Hong Kong.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/06/196459.jpg
http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/202272.jpg

Surely demolition cannot be too far off so this annorexic bitch can start to get some growth hormones into her!

Here's an image of the Pinnacle Office building:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pc3ab1c7612b8f66218c7ae6498b70280/fae5ff7a.jpg

Yep, shes skinny alright, will be interesting to see her grow in her, errm, predicament:cheers:

Has anybody heard anything about this project?

I went past the site yesterday, and I was dissapointed to see that the project sign outside the current building had been removed. It would be a shame if this project was cancelled.

As much as I like the idea, I wish it'd be built elsewhere, as it'd hardly be noticed in it's location :P

Has anybody heard anything about this project?

I went past the site yesterday, and I was dissapointed to see that the project sign outside the current building had been removed. It would be a shame if this project was cancelled.

Maybe it's a sign demolition isn't far off. It's had all of the necessary approvals, including blocking off the footpath, so I guess it's still going ahead?

Wow loving this one not looked at it close before

i think it looks cool, but i cant imagine it being very practicle at all
i just went and stepped out 6 metres... that is wwaayy to small.

i established my 6 m was innacurate... its bigger than i thought, but still. gets a 'wow' form me for being so thin

The block of land the my wife and I bought is only 13m wide, and I thought that was narrow, but jaysus!

Me thinks this one has gone bye bye......

DA WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT

It's on the ACC dev site in the October section. I thought it went bye bye. It has, so say, bye bye to Pinnacle everyone!

Another one straight to the trash heap.

So the curtains have drawn on what is, quite frankly, the most stupid building i've ever seen proposed. :)

Adelaide has lost another opportunity to do something different.

disappointing