ATHENS | Acropolis Museum | Com [Archive]

ELLIN

October 21st, 2007, 04:03 AM

Athens is ready to open the New Acropolis Museum.A modern landmark some metres from its ancient landmark,the Acropolis monuments...
The New Acropolis Museum has been designed by the internationally renowned architect B. Tschumi in collaboration with the Greek architect M. Fotiadis, following an International Architectural Tender. This is a 30,000 m2 building on a 21,000 m2 property. It includes specially designed exhibition rooms for the presentation of all significant findings from the Acropolis area, a periodic exhibition hall, a 200-seat presentation virtual reality room showing the monuments as they were in the past,a cafe, a restaurant as well as parking and ancillary areas arranged in four underground levels. The highlight of all exhibition areas is the magnificent glass hall which is going to host all Parthenon sculptures. A particular feature of this building is the fact that all archaeological findings from the specific piece of land have been integrated and highlighted in its design......
Here are some pics
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/692784_b.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/pegasus_m_160_27604_.jpg
Parthenon room
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/sculptural_program.jpg (on the monument)
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/Maketa.jpg(on acropolis museum)
Views staright to ancient monuments,while you walking next to the ancient antiquites of Parthenon temple.....

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/museum04.jpg
Current status
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1408613968_40d84c8ae6_o.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/giuytiyt.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/newacropolismuseum.jpg
Entance of the museum
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/S5000931.jpg
Interiors
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/pi.jpg
Arhaelogical finds on the base of the new museum,is part of the whole exibition and it would be visited from the future visitors,
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/DSCN4139.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/ContentSegment_5146571_1.jpg
Cariates from erecthion temple,a replika,one of the 6 girls that are going to wathcing the visitors from an upper level ;)
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/giuh.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/S5001764.jpg
Most of the floors of the new museum,is glass,you can see from the top floor the ancient finds on the base of the museum and also all the antiquites are being lightfull from Athenian sun as their ancient articians were preserving them
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/S5001767.jpg
Parthenon room,under construction,final works before the entering of the first antiquites,the Parthenon is viewable out of the glass!!
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/hiuh.jpg
Cleaning of the ancient marbels with a high technology lazer before they are entering to their new home; )
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/hhh.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/KL.jpg
Preperations for the final moving......from the past museum to the new under the acropolis rock.....
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/DDD.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/nkn.jpg
The museum as can be seen from the ancient theatre of dionisos
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/383706885_db01b4b811_o.jpg
The museum,see the "Parthenon" room(glass top level) is facing acropolis monuments,turned to same direction with the Parthenon temple up the to the hill.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/uyo8uo90u.jpg

All the rooms of the museum is going to be opened at the end of 2008,now the acropolis antiquites are moving from the old acropolis museum on acropolis rock down to the new museum,the whole prosedure is going to take 3 months until the last piece of marble will be inside the new acropolis museum.......

Bernard Tschumi made the following statement for its creation....
Three concepts turn the constraints of the site into an architectural oportunity,offering a simple and precise museum with the mathematical and conceptual charity of ancient Greece
A concept of light
More than in any other type of museum,the conditions animating the New Acropolis Museum revolve around light.Not only does daylight in Athens differ from light in London,Berlin or Bilbao.It is first and foremost a museum of natural light,concerned with the presentation of scultpural objects within it.
A movement concept
The visitor's route forms a clear three-dimension loop,affording an architectural promenade with a rich spatial experience extending from the archeological excavations to the Parthenon Marbles and back through the roman period.
Movement in and through time is a crucial dimension of architecture,and of this museum in particular.With over 10,000 visitors daily,the sequence of movement through the museum artifacts is conceived to be of utmost charity.
A tectonic and programmatic concept
The base of the museum design contains an entrance lobby overlooking the Makriyianni excavations as well as temporary exhibition spaces,retail,and all support facilities.
The middle is a large,double-height trapezoidal plate that accommondates all galleries from the Archaic period to the Roman Empire,with complete flexibility.A mezzanine welcomes a bar and restaurant with views towards the Acropolis,and a multimedia auditorium.
The top is rectangular Parthenon Gallery around an outdoor court.The characteristics of its glass enclosure provide ideal light for sculpture,in direct view to and from the reference point of the Acropolis.The parthenon Marbels will be visible from the Acropolis above.The enclosure is designed so as to protect the sculptures and visitors against excess heat and light.The orientation of the Marbels,which will be exactly as at the Parthenon,and their siting will provide an appropriate context for understanding the accomlpishments of the Parthenon complex it self.

Bernard Tschumi

mr.x

October 21st, 2007, 06:39 AM

oh my, this is stunning.

potiz81

October 21st, 2007, 12:28 PM

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw01_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw02_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw03_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw04_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw05_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw09_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw06_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw08_L.jpg

http://www.e-tipos.com/content/staticfiles/multimedia/2007/10/10/esw07_L.jpg

Welcome to world's most modern archaeological museum!

Kaiser

October 21st, 2007, 12:34 PM

:eek2:

ELLIN

October 21st, 2007, 01:50 PM

wow!!
great photos potiz81,i think they must be the most updated!!:cheers:

October 21st, 2007, 02:23 PM

great museum!by far one of the best archaeological museums in the world

Spartan_X

October 21st, 2007, 02:45 PM

I eagerly wait for it to open. I believe it will be astonishing.

tonyboy

October 21st, 2007, 02:46 PM

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/uyo8uo90u.jpg

this is amazing...can't wait for the end of next year...a must see place showing the old parthenon and the new museum. thanks guys..keep us updated please!

Bitxofo

October 21st, 2007, 04:40 PM

Great and huge!!
:eek2::eek2:
Poly wrios.
:wink2:

Giorgio

October 21st, 2007, 05:17 PM

Amazing.
What about the old museum on the hill, will it be removed?

ELLIN

October 21st, 2007, 05:32 PM

Its not going to be removed,they will use it to preserve the work made for the restoration of the Acropolis monuments.
The last 25 years there is a big project on the Acropolis,a whole restoration that will protect the monuments against the air pollution.There is some rebuild of some parts of the monuments with new pentelic marbels as the ancient years,the restoration is a huge project that will take decades to be completed due to the super sensitive procedure that take place for these ancient temples......

johnt_gr

October 22nd, 2007, 01:17 AM

Great building, very modern and with an innovative design! I hope someday it will house the Marbles :)

October 22nd, 2007, 05:23 AM

Mediocre design

GrigorisSokratis

October 22nd, 2007, 09:15 AM

Mediocre design

What a coincidence that always your comments toward things related with Greece are negative.

Of course we all know that this "tiny" museum cannot be compared with the huge worldwide famous Lies and Propaganda Museum of Tirana.

mike102

October 22nd, 2007, 11:25 AM

Really great design! This is an architecture that Athens needs!

Almopos

October 23rd, 2007, 11:37 AM

More pictures of the New Acropolis museum (pictures are from stadia.gr member Lucretius)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/1697971200_9f188d313e.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/1696491385_70582ef1f2.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/1697353724_3e1eb2bc9d.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/1696612841_b39d4cfb58.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2139/1696639551_cc31e2078f.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/1696648317_6bcf9638c9.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/1696830447_9d91aa5f13.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2328/1697719410_37e178ec06.jpg?v=0

chris_scraper

October 23rd, 2007, 03:45 PM

Oh.. what a fantastic building.. I expect I can go again to Athens to visit it!..

:)

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS

October 23rd, 2007, 05:35 PM

@ Almopos indeed, a great photo-tour by Lucretius from Stadia.gr

The full collection on bigger resoulation

Part 1:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/1698010854_a8d5d3b1fb_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2150/1697145411_85fcfcfec6_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2026/1697134857_6fc91a4ff4_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/1697971200_8319f0ad47_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/1697780564_f71fe4fb45_o.jpg

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS

October 23rd, 2007, 05:38 PM

Part 2:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2318/1697760910_8810182473_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2328/1697719410_aa68230bcf_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/1696830447_823fd3a3e3_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/1696840881_7334125e36_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1697738972_4dcb8fe14d_o.jpg

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS

October 23rd, 2007, 05:41 PM

Part 3:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2254/1696809515_2b39df44e5_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/1696753465_5382a90d5a_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2282/1697575790_f0ce011d9f_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2228/1696676727_1b0149c5b0_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/1696612841_6a6df58d7d_o.jpg

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS

October 23rd, 2007, 05:46 PM

Part 4:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2053/1697516168_de9fe7567a_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/1696657525_635485f014_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2139/1696639551_f099ca4b17_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/1696648317_f8c13738f1_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/1696631093_75a22374db_o.jpg

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS

October 23rd, 2007, 05:49 PM

Part 5:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2363/1696532707_c28c3dfcde_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2297/1697371436_5b85b94be0_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/1696551885_dbbcfdef83_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2332/1697413460_e190eaceb4_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2278/1697421378_eb31009ff1_o.jpg

KONSTANTINOUPOLIS

October 23rd, 2007, 05:52 PM

... and

Part 6:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2147/1696579587_2a4fa922f1_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/1696621633_113da7f08b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2347/1697353724_1abeaa7546_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/1697362188_6b4a41bd6e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/1696491385_023017016a_o.jpg

Reaper-strain

October 23rd, 2007, 06:26 PM

Just stunning Konstantinos.

prasinos

October 23rd, 2007, 07:03 PM

Absolutely fabulous... One of the most beautiful and prestigious museums of the world... :)

enjoi

October 23rd, 2007, 07:35 PM

Amazing building!

Lovely architecture! :D

ELLIN

October 24th, 2007, 08:34 PM

"Parthenon room" Latest photos
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1716229364_6e8be3ff5c_o.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1715403373_4dbbb86430_o.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1715423031_6327caca86_o.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1715391577_1dcf241f4d_o.jpg

the sun light is actually everywhere...the sculptures will be preserved as on the parthenon temple........

BG_PATRIOT

October 24th, 2007, 09:12 PM

nastyathenian

October 24th, 2007, 09:44 PM

I’ ve had enough of this empty building. As an architectural work it is a BIG ZERO. The real value lies in the exhibits, which have not been installed yet. Until then I’ ll refrain from reading articles about this monstrosity.

Moreover university professor Tzanni said that she preferred to die before seeing our ancient masterpieces put in a building that was not suitable even for a prison!

ELLIN

October 24th, 2007, 10:11 PM

It would be so great if the Elgin Marbles are returned back to Athens. It so be such a great addition to the museum. Even if the British government does not want give the marbles back, it would be good that the British Museum can lend them to the Acropolis Museum atleast for the grand opening and leave them there for a couple of months.
None the less the museum looks great and it is definitively on my list next time I travel to Athens.:cheers:

BG_PATRIOT
This is true....
keep in mind that they will be the replicas of the sculptures missing at London in the New Acropolis Museum....and will expaused with an aluminium surface cover them to remind that they are captured in British musuem
British people are wanting the returning of the Marbles to their home...British museum denies

boto_mix

October 24th, 2007, 10:12 PM

Consgratulations to Athens for this museum ;), my teachor of history said me that your Acropolis Museum near de Acropolis was already little.

ELLIN

October 24th, 2007, 10:13 PM

AEK

October 24th, 2007, 10:41 PM

Eidame kai sti fwtografia apo pio konta to pisw meros . Eimai 100% oti ta ktiria auta prepei na fugoun opwsdipote.

ELLIN

October 24th, 2007, 11:03 PM

Eidame kai sti fwtografia apo pio konta to pisw meros . Eimai 100% oti ta ktiria auta prepei na fugoun opwsdipote.

oxx please min anoigeis afti tin sizitisi edo...min skotothoume gia ta ktiria se afto to thread..kai ego pistevo oti prepei na figoun alla kaleitera na to sizitisoume sto hellenic agora:horse:

MuNaySha

October 24th, 2007, 11:31 PM

tonyboy

October 25th, 2007, 02:29 AM

oxx please min anoigeis afti tin sizitisi edo...min skotothoume gia ta ktiria se afto to thread..kai ego pistevo oti prepei na figoun alla kaleitera na to sizitisoume sto hellenic agora:horse:

:dunno:
per favore, translate pls....

ELLIN

October 25th, 2007, 03:51 AM

:dunno:
per favore, translate pls....

A.E.K dont open the conversation of demolish the 2 buildings in front of the New Acropolis Museum in this thread cause i dont need forum-fights for this reason,there is a specific thread,we discuss that at hellenic agora

Happy tonyboy???:)

Phobos

October 25th, 2007, 04:04 AM

The interior is stunning and the views from it are aldo wonderful!

connected_

October 25th, 2007, 06:16 AM

I like that it doesn't draw too much attention away from the Acropolis. And the views from inside are amazing!!

SouthernEuropean

October 25th, 2007, 07:06 AM

actually yes,the museum was designed,with that specific reason to provide a good view to Acropolis and the old quartier around Acropolis,the design it's not so bad either,i just don't like the entrance of the building....the rest is alright,quite unique.

tonyboy

October 25th, 2007, 12:06 PM

A.E.K dont open the conversation of demolish the 2 buildings in front of the New Acropolis Museum in this thread cause i dont need forum-fights for this reason,there is a specific thread,we discuss that at hellenic agora

Happy tonyboy???:)

yes i am. :banana: thank you indeed.

i most sincerely support your cause:

"The request for the return of the Parthenon Marbles is not made merely by the Greek nation or in the name of history, but in the name of the World's Cultural Heritage. Indeed, until restitution is made, the mutilated monument will be seen as a sad reproach to that heritage."

PROFESSOR EVANGELOS VENIZELOS
MINISTER OF CULTURE

keep up the good work :applause: ellen and do please carry on!

ELLIN

October 25th, 2007, 03:34 PM

yes i am. :banana: thank you indeed.

i most sincerely support your cause:

keep up the good work :applause: ellen and do please carry on!

Tonyboy thanks for your kind words.....the returning of the marbles from London will put an end to this sad story of the monuments,
Its new house the New Acropolis Museum is really nice,actually the photos are not describe the whole structure really well....its position and the area of Athens s situated is just amazing.....
I will keep you updated.....
Everyday new sculptures from the past museum are carried inside the new.......
a pic from the whole transer
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/402a253dbe3930a9a817ea523ec2ec24.jpg
The first marble have been transered,(a cow is transfered for sucrifice from a young for the celebration of the Panathenian)
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/ppp.jpg

one of the first marbel scultures (blue box) is aproaching to the open gate of "Parthenon room"
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1715362841_a8596216b3.jpg
Realesed inside the museum!!!
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1715429271_f4667d0a48.jpg

Alle

October 25th, 2007, 03:56 PM

Very good design

Giorgio

October 25th, 2007, 04:23 PM

oxx please min anoigeis afti tin sizitisi edo..
giati oxi;
tha mou arese poli na do ti exoun na poune i xeni gia afto to thema.
prepei na figoun.. sosta alla ti nomizoune i alli;
kai giati pezis ton exipnon pou mas les um mpori na milisoume gia afti tin sizitisi i oxi...member eisai san emas, oxi admin.

ELLIN

October 25th, 2007, 04:30 PM

Giorgio apla sou leo afto,kai to enoo apolytos...
einai dropi na iparhoun antropoi pou einai Ellines kai na sou miazoun!!!!
exei ola ta haraktiristika tou Kakou Ellina....vlakodeis simperifores pou vlaptoun tin xora tous,Perifanos Ellinas otan se simferei kai me tin proti simfora i stravopatima tis patridas les efkola drepome pou eimai ellinas....ta thread sou anoigoun arnitikes sizitiseis gia tin Ellada otan oi perissoteroi prospathoume na deixoume to kalo tis prosopo....krima pou stin Austarlia pou agapame kai ektimoume iparhoun akoma atoma tou eidous sou...pou vazoun ton prosopiko tous egoismo pano apo ola...kai xrisimopoiun afto to politismeno thread gia na anoixoun kavgades....einai dropi na iparhoun Ellines san kai esena..

Giorgio

October 26th, 2007, 09:24 AM

den me xeris katholou.
apou ola ta ellinopeda stin australia prepie na eimai o pio perifanos....
entaxi, eisai neos akoma s'afto to forum kai afta pou thelis na dis gia mena einai to xalia. den kitazis ola ta ala pou kano gia tin patrida (kitaxe sta international forums, uparxoun apla threads apou mena mai ta kalitera fotografias apou tin xora mas).

you shouldn't be so ignorant, I am probarbly a better Greek than you will ever be and even from thousands of kilometres away my family and myself contribute to the Greek economy. Next year I plan to travel to Greece and do some community work...panta kanw kati kalo gia tin patrida ala klinis ta matia sou otan vlepis pou exw kani kati me to kalo.

dropi pou uparxoun ellines san ESENA...me ta matia klista...

connected_

October 26th, 2007, 09:46 AM

What's with all the hostility? I'm Turkish, channel it all towards me lol

ELLIN

October 26th, 2007, 08:54 PM

Australians calling for return of Parthenon Marbles
:):)

Australia's two most prestigious newspapers, "The Sydney Morning Herald" and "The Australian", are endorsing the return of the Parthenon Marbles to Greece on the occasion of the functioning of the new Acropolis museum.

Both daily newspapers, having circulations running into hundreds of thousands of copies each, are promoting in relevant reports events and lectures that will be beginning in Sydney this week on the issue of restoration work at the Acropolis and the New Acropolis Museum under the general title of "The Parthenon Project."

The newspaper "The Australian" mainly refers to the campaign for the return of the Parthenon Marbles and the New Acropolis Museum.
Some of the Acropolis marble sculptures kept in British museum
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/lon17.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/ElginMarbles3.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/ElginMarbles2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/Elgin20Marbles.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/8457088_11635017a9.jpg
According to the report, the most noticeable element of the New Acropolis Museum, that is expected to open early next year, will be an empty room that will "await" the return of the Parthenon Marbles that were removed by Lord Elgin and are in the British Museum.

The report in the newspaper "The Sydney Morning Herald" refers to the historic event of the transfer and sale of Parthenoin Marbles by Lord Elgin.

Now, as the work on the restoration of the Parthenon is being completed and as the inauguration of the New Acropolis Museum is approaching, the time has now come for the return of the Marbles to their home.

As is noted by Maria Ioannidou, the director of the Acropolis Monuments Maintenance Service, "we must no longer call them the Elgin Marbles but the "Parthenon Marbles" and they must be returned to Greece."

"The Parthenon is not a ruin. It is standing autonomously and for one to see it complete, the Marbles must be returned," she said

My opinion
New Acropolis museum is tha landmark of the landmark.Will house the classical collection of the world heritage,it is a place deserves respects not only as the case of these ancient treasures but as the 21th century with the golden age of the Athenian democracy,a civilazation that gives the examples of the new modern world.The returning of the marbels from British museum will put an end to a sad story,when the antiquites of the monumentswas moved with a barbaric way to London.They are not just scultures,they are pieces of the monuments,there are articrafts of a place of a region,created for a specific light for a specific position.New acropolis museum is their best base ,Attica sun light and view-connections with their home,the Parthenon and the Acropolis monuments,lets put an end to the egoism of the British museum !!!!!The marbels needs imediatelly an act of prevent their last century depressing,New Acropolis museum and they born place sun light will save them for ever!!!!

PhilG

October 26th, 2007, 11:44 PM

I agree totally that the Parthenon Marbles should be returned, this projct is amazing:)

Giorgio

October 27th, 2007, 04:02 AM

I wait to see the response of the British.
If it is negative, I am sure me and another 50,000 Adelaide Greeks will protest infront of the British consulate. :lol:

potiz81

October 30th, 2007, 10:32 AM

An amazing new photo from The New York Times:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/28/arts/28ouro_slide03.jpg

and another one from Acropolis:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/28/arts/28ouro_slide01.jpg

The reporter says: " It’s impossible to stand in the top-floor galleries, in full view of the Parthenon’s ravaged, sun-bleached frame, without craving the marbles’ return. "
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/10/28/arts/20071028_OURO_SLIDESHOW_6.html

savas

October 30th, 2007, 12:02 PM

Where Gods Yearn for Long-Lost Treasures

NO sane architect, one can assume, would want to invite comparisons between his building and the Parthenon. So it comes as little surprise that the New Acropolis Museum, which stands at the foot of one of the great achievements of human history, is a quiet work, especially by the standards of its flamboyant Swiss-born architect, Bernard Tschumi.

But in mastering his ego, Mr. Tschumi pulled off an impressive accomplishment: a building that is both an enlightening meditation on the Parthenon and a mesmerizing work in its own right. I can’t remember seeing a design that is so eloquent about another work of architecture.

....................................................................................
....................................................................................
....................................................................................

I carried these thoughts with me as I boarded an evening flight to London shortly after touring the museum. The next morning I walked from my hotel to the British Museum to visit the Elgin Marbles. Inside the long, narrow Duveen Gallery I felt an immediate twinge of pain. The marbles were stunning, but they looked homesick.

To give visitors some sense of where they were in the Parthenon, the curators have hung the friezes along two facing walls, with the pediments set at each end of the gallery. Even so, you read them as individual works of art, not as part of a composition.

A panel depicting the receding tail of one horse and the advancing head of another with an expanse of blank stone in between is breathtaking. But it’s hard to picture how it originally fit into the Parthenon. The lack of context is only reinforced by Lord Elgin’s decision two centuries ago to cut the works out of the huge blocks of stone into which they were originally carved, a cruel act of vandalism intended to make them easier to ship.

In dismantling the ruins of one of the glories of Western civilization, Lord Elgin robbed them of their meaning.The profound connection of the marbles to the civilization that produced them is lost.

Mr. Tschumi’s great accomplishment is to express this truth in architectural form. Without pomp or histrionics, his building makes the argument for the marbles’ return.

By New York Times
Published: October 28, 2007

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/arts/design/28ouro.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2

somataki

October 30th, 2007, 08:28 PM

A world class museum is born!!!!!!! Can't wait to see the Parthenon marbles from London to fill the new museum!

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/6.jpg

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/1.jpg

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/5.jpg

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/3.jpg

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/4.jpg

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/2.jpg

potiz81

November 5th, 2007, 02:16 AM

The current metro entrance next to the museum wil be reconstructed from Bernard tschumi to the architecture style of the museum. Today its a simple marble entrance:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/1858050134_8ee44c86bd_o.jpg

ELLIN

November 5th, 2007, 07:48 PM

This is the new official site of the New Acropolis Museum,it has many infos and descriptions of the whole structure.
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/

ELLIN

December 4th, 2007, 12:50 AM

A new and really positive article from Guardian newspaper for the New Acropolis Museum

Acropolis now

It was the biggest prize in architecture - and its creator took on earthquakes, hostile locals and 104 court cases. Jonathan Glancey reports from Athens on a momentous achievement

Monday December 3, 2007
The Guardian

A geometrical marvel ... the New Acropolis Museum. Photograph: Christian Richters

It was a day unlike any other. Bernard Tschumi arrived at his office in New York's Chelsea Village to receive a phone call. This was the big one. The Swiss-American architect had won the greatest prize in architecture: the international competition to design the New Acropolis Museum in Athens. This was a job, surely, coveted by every A-list architect in the world.
No sooner had Tschumi put down the phone than he was told that a plane had just crashed into the World Trade Centre. "We all watched from our roof as the second aircraft smashed into the other tower," he says. "No one felt like celebrating after that. It wasn't a particularly good start.

Tschumi's new museum - a geometrical marvel dedicated to the celebration of antiquity - was funded by Greece's ministry of culture and the EU. The building is complete, though its display of magnificent Athenian art, some 4,000 ancient artefacts in all, won't be finalised until next summer. But this is not just a splendid gallery. From the very beginning, the new building had to engage in an architectural dialogue with the nearby Parthenon, the 5th-century BC temple dedicated to the wise if warlike goddess Athena, the virgin (or "parthenos").
The Parthenon - centrepiece of the Acropolis, the "sacred rock" at the heart of Athens - was commissioned by Pericles, at the height of Greek power, from the architects Ictinus and Callicrates and the sculptor Phidias. The result was a meticulously self-contained and perfectly proportioned marble temple enclosed by 46 fluted Doric columns; it has no wings, no projections, nothing to take away from its perfect form. This creation has long been judged the single most important building in the canon of western civilisation, partly because of the classical values it so perfectly embodies, and partly because its beauty really is hard to match. Classicists have bowed before it, but so did Le Corbusier, the most iconoclastic of modern architects. How can any architect ever match its rhythm and harmony?

Oddly, the building had been all but abandoned when the seventh Earl of Elgin came here to ship many of its famous sculptures to London in 1801, triggering a controversy that has rumbled on for two centuries. It has been a church, a mosque and even a gunpowder store, depending on who held Athens at the time. Partly destroyed by a Venetian mortar in 1687, the Parthenon only really began to matter again politically after the Greeks won their war of independence from Turkey in 1821. Ever since, the Parthenon has been a sacred symbol to Greece.

Naturally, Tschumi wanted to do his best in the shadow of this architectural colossus. Creating something to complement the aesthetic heights of the Acropolis was not, however, his only challenge; the Greek government needed a building grand enough to finally persuade the British government to return the Elgin Marbles from their current home in the British Museum, to a gallery in the new museum.

Things started badly. "There were those who said the building should be in a traditional classical style," says Tschumi. "Then the government changed, and everyone thought the project would be cancelled. Some said the job shouldn't have gone to a foreigner. During construction, there were 104 court cases against the scheme."

No wonder it wasn't ready for the 2004 Athens Olympics. As for the site, it was problematic, too. Not only was it just 300 yards from the hallowed Acropolis, it was also riddled with the archaeological remains of an antique Athenian suburb in mid-excavation. Plus an underground train line ran nearby, threatening noise and vibration. Then there was the 19th-century neo-Greek police academy that occupied a big chunk of the site; a protected building, it had to stay. To create enough room for the new museum, some apartment buildings had to go - by order. Finally, on top of all this, there was the threat of earthquakes.

Something of a poisoned chalice? "No," smiles Tschumi. "I think architects are often at their best when faced with restraints." The biggest restraint was that, given the strictures of the site, it was going to be very hard to design a building that would be both big enough for its purpose and offer great views of the Acropolis. Given the dazzling sun that blasts Athens for much of the year, the ideal view would face north, to avoid glare. Yet the building had to lie east-west.

The solution? Going with the east-west flow for the main part of the building, Tschumi then twisted the rooftop gallery - which is intended for the Elgin Marbles - north. This glorious touch creates a purposefully, rather than gratuitously, dynamic building. It also offers a tremendous view of the entire Acropolis.

This twist aside, the museum's design is calm, even strait-laced. Entirely free of decoration ("The ancient sculpture on display inside will be enough," says Tschumi), the concrete, glass and marble building nevertheless plays a number of clever structural games. The glass-floored entrance lobby, for example, straddles the excavation site so that, as you amble into the museum, you see below you the outlines of shops, alleys, houses, baths and workshops dating back to 600AD. It is like a stroll into antiquity: beneath your feet is street life; high up above is the civic glory of the Acropolis.

From this vantage point, you can also make out the irregular forest of concrete columns the new museum stands on, the antithesis of the beautifully rhythmic spacing of the Parthenon's columns. Each is placed to avoid touching the fabric of the ancient city below. Some are close together, others far apart, and all appear to perform an unlikely engineering waltz. In fact, these columns are doubly clever. They have joints, like giant knees. In times of tremor, the columns will dip and sway - enough, hopefully, to save the building from collapse. "The Greek authorities kept saying our columns didn't comply with local building codes," says Tschumi. "We said, 'But this is what the world's best structural engineers, Arup, recommend.' We studied the building codes. They had last been revised in 1916."

Once over the excavated ancient streets, you reach a generous hall, aglow with slanting sunbeams. The feeling of having arrived somewhere special is inescapable. In front of you, a great ramp slants up to the main galleries, the entrance of which is crowned with the marble pediment of an ancient temple.

There is no sign here of a museum shop, nor the smell of cappuccinos. There is no clutter and few signs, just generous, beautifully lit architectural space, clad in cool marble. Despite so much marble, there is surprisingly little clomp and clatter from visitors' shoes: all the many, mathematically spaced circular holes you see in the walls are there to absorb sound. An entrance lobby designed for at least 3 million visitors a year is never going to be as quiet as a temple, but this is a remarkably calming space.

The first floor holds more surprises. A vast, sunlit and many-columned chamber, it is a pleasure to walk through in its own right; but by next summer, it will be adorned with Greek and Roman-era Athenian sculpture. "I hope the main galleries will be as uninterrupted as possible," says Tschumi. "No ropes to keep visitors away from the sculptures. Minimal captions. No architectural distraction." Eventually, there will be a cafe on the rooftop terrace complete with sunshade, offering splendid views over the rooftops.

Crowning the museum is that skewed top floor, a great glazed box facing north to the Acropolis. The views are picture-perfect, except for those missing marbles, of course. Some of those superb sculptures - of steeds and soldiers, gods and giants - will soon inhabit this gallery, though the majority will remain, as yet, in the British Museum. Intriguingly, this gallery is the same size as the core of the Parthenon, so visitors will get a sense of the scale of the sculptures in relation to the mother temple. In a brazen move, copies of the missing sculptures will be installed, fronted with gauze masks so they look like the ghosts of the plundered objects. As Tschumi says, "A visit to the top floor will be a journey into the world of cultural politics and propaganda, as well as great art."

And a journey into impressive design, too. A glass gallery in the scorching Athenian sun? It sounds like madness. Yet it should all work, coolly and calmly - not just because that north view is glare-free, but also because a double-glazing system channels cool air between the glass panes.

Whether the marbles will ever all return to Athens is a question for curators and politicians. The New Acropolis Museum is certainly ready to receive them. "Orchestrated simplicity" is how Tschumi described his goal. Unpretentious, well-built and wearing its ingenuity lightly, his building is a relaxed walk through layers of ancient Greek art, architecture and city-making. It makes the Parthenon even more important than it has been over the past two centuries, even if some of its marbles, the very reason for the museum's construction, are still missing. But how much does it matter? The Parthenon is 2,500 years old. Perhaps there's no great hurry to put the final touches to Tschumi's handsome building.

GUARDIAN

potiz81

December 5th, 2007, 12:42 AM

From flickr:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2044/2085005208_db7cb138f7.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2017/2084225457_281d24bc07.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2225/2085010086_bbce405ef0.jpg

Cerises

December 5th, 2007, 09:50 AM

Can't wait for it to open to the public!

mikey23

December 5th, 2007, 07:39 PM

This looks amazing, especailly the interior.

erbse

December 5th, 2007, 09:24 PM

somataki

December 6th, 2007, 12:34 AM

What an insult to the Acropolis :ohno:

Couldn't they have build it slightly farther? It might be okay for modern architecture someway, but that definetly isn't enough to dignify or pay any respect to this location.

:lol::lol::lol:

I' m sorry my friend, but Acropolis is insulted more by this chaos

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/2088308670_868dc65292.jpg?v=0

What do u expected as a new Acropolis museum? Something with ionic columns all around?:nuts:

The new museum its a world class jewel with character and a special identity which respects the historical surrounding by protecting and spotlighting it:

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/2.jpg

in contrast to the big majority of all the other buildings around Acropolis, which are built destroying the antiquities of the area which they were built.

A museum that a lot of cities would love to have in their centers:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2252/2085007704_9c004a879e.jpg?v=0 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/2062820877_4845aa91d0.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/2084226245_d6bcc4ee1b.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2017/2084225457_281d24bc07.jpg

Look at the detail! The sculptures will be visible at night from the outside! Amazing!

Giorgio

December 6th, 2007, 05:58 AM

What the hell, the interior is just AMAZING!
Those night pictures where you can see the artefacts from outside are just superb.
Will the museum be open by July 2008? I will most likely be coming to Greece then.

ELLIN

December 6th, 2007, 03:20 PM

The parthenon room will be open for visitors from January 2008...exacltly ..what makes the museum really imressive is that you can see the aniquities inside....from the terraces and rooms of the nearby hotels the antiquities inside the Parthenon room will be visible and lightfull during night.....there are hotels around that you thing that they touching the glass of the parthenon room..and the viewable antiquities gives a plus view of the interiors..the first antiquities on the first floors are visible even from the walking pedestrians circle the museum....during my walks im standing a while to watch the develop of the museum,,especially at night the WOW expressions from tourists and people watching the museum are answers to my satisfied feelings of this project......happy that finally turns to be better than we could imagine....

ELLIN

December 6th, 2007, 03:35 PM

What an insult to the Acropolis :ohno:

Couldn't they have build it slightly farther? It might be okay for modern architecture someway, but that definetly isn't enough to dignify or pay any respect to this location.

you are talking without any knowledge to the project...i dont understand but allways making fast negative posts and you dont give a space for disgusing by dissapear after....
The New Acropolis Museum repsects the monuments of the Acropolis....
first of all...its not higher than any nearby residential building of the area,
,there are free areas around turned to gardens..so its project help to improve the green of the area is located......its minimal design represents the simple and "spartian" character of its structure,this is a nice way not to come in "fight" with the ideal classical monumental architecture of the Acropolis monuments.....
The best way to realize its repsects to the holy rock of the Acropolis is to visit the place ....
and by the way erbsenzaehler we are in the 21th century....arhcitecture has been improved...make an update please to your tastes...the period of the rocky castles is the past...beautifull one and respected....but update yourself.....I could undertsand if you dont like it and opinions are welcomed but your opinions are repeated negative and without any true..or feel to ask and learn....

Reaper-strain

December 6th, 2007, 06:15 PM

What is beautiful is the balance between old and new. The museum itself is surrounded by older buildings, but the balance is superb:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2166/2071445625_a11072bad7_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2044/2085005208_7d9a778ff5_o.jpg

and a nice article for out English reading friends by the Guardian:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/architecture/story/0,,2220880,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=40

somataki

December 7th, 2007, 02:41 AM

New:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2218/2092049506_104def42e2.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/2062619387_154bde12d4.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2225/2085010086_bbce405ef0.jpg?v=0

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/12/03/acrop372.jpg

connected_

December 7th, 2007, 05:27 AM

I really hope I can make it to Athens when I go to Turkey next year just to visit this museum in person!! It looks stunning, well done Greece!! :okay:

-Michelangelo-

December 7th, 2007, 07:49 AM

I really hope I can make it to Athens when I go to Turkey next year just to visit this museum in person!! It looks stunning, well done Greece!! :okay:

????

connected_

December 7th, 2007, 10:42 AM

????

Haha, I meant fly over there FROM Turkey of course ;)

erbse

December 8th, 2007, 02:33 AM

What do u expected as a new Acropolis museum? Something with ionic columns all around?

Exactly.

you are talking without any knowledge to the project...i dont understand but allways making fast negative posts and you dont give a space for disgusing by dissapear after....

I never disappear. I'm following the discussion and your arguable try to turn my states into the 'truth' or whatever.

As I already said, it has some nice aspects to it and of course many cities would be proud to have it in their CBD. But that doesn't make it the beautiful structure you Greeks are talking about here. Of course you attempt to show the museum in its best light. But it's still a typical modern, rather boring and disproportionate glass and concrete farrago.
The point that Athens is already fully packed with modern crap doesn't let it perform better - on the contrary, they should have build something more traditional to create the modernly beloved 'contrast'.

and by the way erbsenzaehler we are in the 21th century....arhcitecture has been improved...make an update please to your tastes...the period of the rocky castles is the past...beautifull one and respected....but update yourself.....I could undertsand if you dont like it and opinions are welcomed but your opinions are repeated negative and without any true..or feel to ask and learn....

An update to my taste? Pull the other leg, it's got bells on. I can bullshit myself buddy. I like modern architecture - done right, placed right, timed right. None of these factors matches with the Acropolis museum to me. It's like a mean cancer right next to the heart of Athens. If you don't agree with me, go and snivel. I've seen to much of this unremarkable architecture to lapse into enthusiasm about it.
It cut me to the quick to see something that bad built in Athens these days. And hell yeah, I've got an undisputable good taste. No matter to discuss anymore.

ELLIN

December 8th, 2007, 10:20 AM

Well i will like to put the bells in your head so some noice make you wake up.....
Talking about insult and cancer makes you antipathetic,wrong,negative and out of how the museum feels and appears to the whole archeological area of the Acropolis.....
Building a museum with a classical arhcitecture would cause an insult...a modernized museum fits to the modern architecture of Athenian skyline in general and its minimal character and way of build makes the museum pray in front the hill of the Acropolis monuments....
the museum has an modern Athenian character ....building a museum from marbel just to put marbels antiquities inside is the old fashion way of museology in general....(thats i was talking for updates,and as i have already spot it..you will need a scaning for some virus..you have been infected dear).....If you have read carefully the prosecion of Tsumi you will havent mention all these...which are just negative and without any based critisism....as allways you keep your tradition on this,,,
New Acropolis Museum has not any need for lighting....from us...most of the architecture forums and press have been mentioning its structure with lightfull crtitics....a minority including you(which i would respect you opinion if you werent rude)....insult first of all our abilities to like what Tsumi describe as the biggest and most important building of his life....

Originally Posted by somataki
What do u expected as a new Acropolis museum? Something with ionic columns all around?

Exactly.
.....exactly ...you want a luna park......a theme park coming from the past ..an ancient disneyland...where from the modern ionics collumns the past ones will be showed...great!!!
if you are not busy,.....give us more ideas...maybe a castle would have been better....
by the way...Happy update............(by reading)...and next time first learn and then vomet my friend...
Bernard Tschumi made the following statement for its creation....
Three concepts turn the constraints of the site into an architectural oportunity,offering a simple and precise museum with the mathematical and conceptual charity of ancient Greece
A concept of light
More than in any other type of museum,the conditions animating the New Acropolis Museum revolve around light.Not only does daylight in Athens differ from light in London,Berlin or Bilbao.It is first and foremost a museum of natural light,concerned with the presentation of scultpural objects within it.
A movement concept
The visitor's route forms a clear three-dimension loop,affording an architectural promenade with a rich spatial experience extending from the archeological excavations to the Parthenon Marbles and back through the roman period.
Movement in and through time is a crucial dimension of architecture,and of this museum in particular.With over 10,000 visitors daily,the sequence of movement through the museum artifacts is conceived to be of utmost charity.
A tectonic and programmatic concept
The base of the museum design contains an entrance lobby overlooking the Makriyianni excavations as well as temporary exhibition spaces,retail,and all support facilities.
The middle is a large,double-height trapezoidal plate that accommondates all galleries from the Archaic period to the Roman Empire,with complete flexibility.A mezzanine welcomes a bar and restaurant with views towards the Acropolis,and a multimedia auditorium.
The top is rectangular Parthenon Gallery around an outdoor court.The characteristics of its glass enclosure provide ideal light for sculpture,in direct view to and from the reference point of the Acropolis.The parthenon Marbels will be visible from the Acropolis above.The enclosure is designed so as to protect the sculptures and visitors against excess heat and light.The orientation of the Marbels,which will be exactly as at the Parthenon,and their siting will provide an appropriate context for understanding the accomlpishments of the Parthenon complex it self.

Bernard Tschumi

erbse

December 8th, 2007, 02:09 PM

ELLIN

December 8th, 2007, 03:05 PM

Fellow...not only has improve the whole area of Makriyani..the prices of the buildings around have been increased dramatically(double)....i dont have any dogmatic entousiasm..i have been to so many countries and i have seen so many buildings that is difficult to be suprised easily....i will just mention the WOW expresions from the people standing in front of the entrance....visitors of the city have been amazed....the organized journalists team from China that visit the city due to the new flight connection from Athens to Bengking give congratulations for the impressive New Acropolis Museum.. im not dogmatic....i just believe that you are in hurry...wait to visit it by your self and have a second opinion...and take care of some expressions....like cancer for example...cause gives a dramatic and tragic feeling that is out of this world regarding the New Acropolis Museum..as for personally ..well the tread of the Museum is more important than you or me....so lets skip this....cheers:cheers:

savas

December 8th, 2007, 03:38 PM

Well at the end it is totaly negligible what a view people are saying. It is just a matter of taste. You like it or you dont. I think this museum is one of the very good developments in Athens and i love tha fact that it ignores kitschy clichés that some people want to see or the fact that Athens has to be more "beautifull". This isnt its mission. Tschumi was the only one who understood this and provided the perfect solution. The museum is fantastic. For a more beautiful Athens there are other things that have to be done...

Geokioy

December 9th, 2007, 02:13 PM

Olympios

December 9th, 2007, 02:41 PM

Well I cannot understand why we have to persuade other forumers here about the beauty or the importance of our new museum!!! I think we have democracy...so everyone is invited here to express freely his/her opinion about this new building-museum in the greek capital without insulting anyone ofcourse...
Please the only thing we have to do is to inform them about it with news, photos and structural info!!! Let the people make their own decision....
Sometimes i think in this forum participate children and not educated adults...please be more mature all of you greeks and non greeks...
+1.

Athens already looks runned down and crapped. I've visited it some years ago and I've quite repented that decision, it was just disappointing. There's not much left which is pleasing to the eye.
Well, Athens has changed after the Olympics. And I am not talking about the general architecture (it will never change) but basically the quality of services (transportation, hotels, beaches, airport etc). For the rest, I generally agree with you, this museum is not a landmark for Athens and I would prefer an Academy-like style but at least it is quite modern and ''silent'' and basically gives a superb environment for the ancient stuff that houses-which btw is the most important-so we can say that it's OK for a basic purpose: Repatriate the Marbles.:)

ELLIN

December 9th, 2007, 09:39 PM

Well I cannot understand :ohno:why we have to persuade other forumers here about the beauty or the importance of our new museum!!! I think we have democracy...so everyone is invited here to express freely his/her opinion about this new building-museum in the greek capital without insulting anyone ofcourse...
Please the only thing we have to do is to inform them about it with news, photos and structural info!!! Let the people make their own decision....
Sometimes i think in this forum participate children and not educated adults...please be more mature all of you greeks and non greeks...

Cancer???Insult???
Sorry but these are not opinions but insults .....if it doesnt insult you the opinion that there is a cancer on the base of Acropolis sorry but i have to provide you with the necessary infos about the expression cancer and how can be translated....."There's not much left which is pleasing to the eye".........is this an opinion or way to minimize and zero a city?????
Im not a child...and my explanations are not coming from the childhood: )although i would prefer to remain young...lol...

Cerises

December 9th, 2007, 10:07 PM

Well I cannot understand :ohno:why we have to persuade other forumers here about the beauty or the importance of our new museum!!! I think we have democracy...so everyone is invited here to express freely his/her opinion about this new building-museum in the greek capital without insulting anyone ofcourse...
Please the only thing we have to do is to inform them about it with news, photos and structural info!!! Let the people make their own decision....
Sometimes i think in this forum participate children and not educated adults...please be more mature all of you greeks and non greeks...

Agree with you however there are differences bewteen expressing an opinion and being down right insulting! Personally I like the museum and we all know it's an important project for the Greek capital something which I think matters a great deal. If some forumer doesn't like the design of the building then that's okay, it is completely subjective. I'm not going to lose sleep over that! :lol:

skyduster

December 9th, 2007, 11:39 PM

I just read your first lines. No need to wake me up, I'm already quick like a weasel.
Now all I've gotta say: Don't try to convince me of your dogmatic enthusiasm about this museum. As I said, it's arguably not the worst museum, but that's not enough for me. There are even far better modern museums in historical areas (respectively additions like the glass pyramids at the Louvre or the enlighting roof at the British Museum).
But this thing sadly looks like it's adopted of some crucial 70s architecture guide, with just a standing out dark glass part. You can talk as much as you use to, it's regardless. Athens already looks runned down and crapped. I've visited it some years ago and I've quite repented that decision, it was just disappointing. There's not much left which is pleasing to the eye. This museum doesn't improve anything at this location, it rather insults the surrounding area ('cause there are still some historical buildings left, not to forget about the Acropolis).

The Olympia area of Athens is fantabulous, that's great modern architecture to me. And it doesn't do anything bad to its location, it's absolutely perfect placed. The Acropolis museum isn't however.

And please avoid to turn out personally next time. As you sow, so shall you reap.

See, this is the exact reason I rarely visit threads about Greece outside the Hellenic Agora. Some pompous ass from a "better country" will start lecturing us -in a very patronizing way- about all the things that are wrong with Athens, as if we are too blind to see it ourselves. And this kind of pompous patronizing, I'm usually not in the mood for.

Comparing Greece to a country like Germany, which industrialized long before Greece, is exponentially unfair, and it's regrettable that someone uses this historical fact as a weapon against us. Many modern industrialized cities started out similarly; Paris wasn't exactly a romantic city before Haussman bulldozed the city in the 1860s to build the Paris we know and love today. London wasn't always pleasant either, and I'm sure we can say the same for Germany's major cities, at some point in the past.

As for the city of Athens: after a period of horrendous architecture and urban planning (or lack thereof) which lasted from about 1965 to 1985, everyone today in Athens will tell you that the city needs a major make-over. We are not stupid, we are not blind to the city's problems, and you are not enlightening us on something we don't already know. However, the city is improving at a very fast pace, and -if you didn't like the city some years ago- come back now, because there have been some changes. And come back again, and again, and again, every year and every decade, as you'll notice the city gradually improves every year.

Now, as for the new Acropolis Museum: not everyone in Athens likes it, not everyone in Greece likes it, and it wasn't even designed by a Greek. It was designed by a world-renowned SWISS architect named Bernard Tschumi. Personally, I'm not too crazy about the museum. I agree that it borrows too many 1970s elements, and I feel that the five Greek people on the board who approved this design had the same short-sighted vision as the Swiss architect. However, perhaps Tschumi didn't have much of a choice when he designed the building, given the numerous constraints the building had: consider the fact that the building was built on an archaeological ground (hence the need to very carefully plan the building's foundations), and that the museum had to be built in a weird-shaped lot (because of the protected 19th-century buildings that surround it), and then the need for earthquake-resistant engineering on top of all that. Given all these constraints, perhaps it was impossible for Tschumi to design a more classical building, and -at the same time- it would have been unwise to build a very loud modern building so close to the Acropolis. Hence, Tschumi went with a more low-key modern design. Who knows??

Whatever the case, I repeat: NOT EVERYONE IN GREECE LIKES THIS BUILDING. Some poeple love it, some people don't care for it. There's many different opinions. So please, quit your patronizing attitude, and stop trying to "enlighten" us.

And finally: there is no "Olympia" part of Athens. Olympia is a town and archaeological site in the Peloponnese region, unless you're talking about the main 2004 Olympic venues site in the suburb of Maroussi.

ELLIN

December 9th, 2007, 11:58 PM

totally agree skyduster....this person has a bad sense..it was not his first time

www.sercan.de

December 10th, 2007, 12:24 AM

i like it :D
the inside is IMO better than the outside

ELLIN

December 10th, 2007, 01:25 AM

First caryatid to New Acropolis Museumhttp://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/855776_b.jpg

The transfer of the first of five caryatids from the old Acropolis museum to the New Acropolis Museum in Makrygianni began on Saturday at 11:00 in the morning, using the three-crane relay system set up to carry the priceless antiquities down the hill via the Theatre of Dionysus.

The caryatid - a sculpted female form that serves as an architectural support for entablature in the place of a pillar - will be placed on the first level of the new museum in an internal "porch" that visitors will see when they first climb up the grand stair at the entrance. There were originally six caryatids on the Athens Acropolis that supported the porch of the Erechtheion Temple, where they have now been replaced by replicas. The best preserved of the six statues was taken by Lord Elgin in the 19th century and is now held at the British Museum, while the remaining five originals have been on display at the Acropolis Museum.
Here a nice photo of the replicas representing the authentic on Erechtheion Temple
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/dsc1271largegp1.jpg

erbse

December 10th, 2007, 08:10 PM

ELLIN

December 10th, 2007, 09:57 PM

Good to see your intense preoccupation with my statements, Skyduster. You're probably right, I was too emotional about it, but: I was expressing my subjective estimation on the Museum, so I don't understand the agitated reactions of you and Ellis. Whether you may have read it or not, I'm just curious - when did I include anything which compares your situation to Germany? Everything I was talking about, had been my experiences and opinions.

And I've visited Athens after the Olympic games in autumn 2005, so the memories are quite fresh - and you can tell me the city made a 360-roundabout since then. Of course, every city's changing 'bout some time (would be horrible if not), but that doesn't change my view on the museum, so what are you talking about? I actually think my expressions had been quite smooth, seemly you guys are some sorta mimosas. If it's just because I used the metaphoric term 'cancer' for its appearance, I'm sorry. But that ain't rude or something, come on. And by the by, it's not that I hate Athens, it actually might be worth a visit to see some great Ancient structures, but to me it wasn't worthwile (that may be also due to the fact, that it was quite cloudy and even raining some days). Considering the fact that Athens hadn't seen a major war since some hundred years, it was sadly pretty blemished by modernists.

By the way: I definetly don't soar my country above any else. If there's something crappy build in Germany, I'll say: "This is crap!" And possibly explain why I think so. I'm not that patriotic this way. But I can't stand to disguise myself and act as if everything's great up here. I don't expect others to be like that, but I think it's somehow dishonest to yourself if you find anything great what your own country does, isn't it? Hopefully you'll don't finish me off for stating that.

And why should I try to enlighten you? Of course it's evident to me that most of you Greeks know about the rather bad situation. But I was asked to concretize my opinion, so I did. Nothing wrong with that matter. If you don't like my way to express it, you should say it that way. But please don't affirm that I'd be trying to 'enlighten' you or something, that's ridiculous.

Probably the museum respects the archeological site and achieves the requirements. But does this make it proper architecture? Well, you're also not that cheered by it and I agree on most of your points. Some people don't seem to understand mine thou. Because they wanna hear everybody saying: "Uuuh, ooh, aah! Fantastic museum, beautiful! 10/10!!!1" That's like it seems to me. If we're basing discussions on such a level, a forum is mindless. Let's go to chat then. That apparently might fulfill the talking requirements of many people here on SSC.

Before I forget about it: In the end this discussion was just based on subjective arguments by me. I didn't and still don't want to insult anyone with that, otherwise I'm sorry - I'm always rather direct. But let's don't forget about what a forum like this use to offer: A platform to discuss urban matters, opinions, news, buildings, whatever. Why should we haver and waste our time? If we don't express our positions directly, we just talk at cross-purposes and don't might reduce any matter to a common denominator. I hope you've got to be appreciative of my concerns. If not, go and snivel.
All I've gotta say now: Let's get back to some peace here and have an irenic libation :cheers1:

Athens city is definetely a must destination that can suprise a traveller....I use to participate to the travel forums and most of people have memorable stay there.....the beach coast of the city ,the longest in Europe,the amazing climate ,the importance of its monuments,the hundrets of the museums,the 24 hours lively situations,the unstop nightlife and the vivid character of the city,the thousands of cosy cafes and luxurious restaurants and local taverns,plus its amazing nature surounding of sea and mountains doesnt makes Athens,a horrible place as you want to say at all....your critisism insult the city and its people,I wills second skyduster and i will say that i tottaly agree.....that you are minimize the city profile..in a negative and unrespectufull way........
you have an epocritic way of acting in the forums....by saying i dont hate Athens.....but when you insult a place you dont have to hate .....I wouldnt continue this if i havent experience of your previous reactions and bad sense.....if you participate in the forums to take some attention and causing battle threads....stay on your local ones...otherwise....ask for some help...of how we can use some words....i would expect from a german to think twice the way of expressing opinions...but .....you broke the tradition on this....
Building a classical architecture building would have been a way to comparison the museum to the Parthenon......THIS IS WRONG.....!!!!!For the architecture and wrong of presentation antiquities......you can build an example of classic architecture next to the perfection of this type of architecture.....you put it in comparison....
there are not many things to see!!!!
yes...there are little.........
1/Acropolis monuments
2/lycabetous hill
3/National archelogical museum
4/Benaki museum
5/Byzantine museum
6/Cycladic museum
7/Archeological pedestrians
8/Area of the Olympic venues and stadiums
9/Athens beaches-Vouliagmeni-Faliro-Glyfada-Barkiza
10/Plaka area and its amazing architecture
11/Kolonaki-ermou-shopping activities
12/Athenian planetarium(erd biggest in the wrold)
13/Floisvos marine
14/Ancient agora
15/Cape Sounion
16/Byzantine churhces(the oldest churches of Christianism)
17/Syntagma sqaure-Chaning of the guards
18/National gardens
19/Panepistimiou street-National library-Academy of Athens-Old university
20/Hellenic world foundation-virtual reality historic programs
21/Temple of Olympian Zeus
22/Panathinaiko stadiumfirst stadium of the Olympic games)
23/National gallery of Art
24/The jewish museum
25/Central Varvakios market
26/Islamic museum
27/Gazi Technopolis
28/Tower of the Winds
29/Numismatic Museum
30/The Monastery of Daphni
...................................................................................................................................and these are some musts......next time i will put hundrets more.....this is really really litle.....lool
If you have been to Athens and you can not spell the Olympic to Olympia.....
Sorry but......drink the beer yourself.....

erbse

December 10th, 2007, 10:43 PM

Olympia is how it's spelled in German, I didn't think about the English counterpart. Nevermind.

Sorry, but all you're doing here is to stay in your pigheaded view how I'd insult anything. And I can insure you that I thought twice about what I wrote. As I said, it seems you can't accept opinions that differ from yours. I really respect that you love the Greek capital and use to defend it, and I partly agree with you. All I've said is that my expectations to the city had been way higher, in addition the weather sucked and someone pilfered my camera. Maybe that influenced the rather bad impression of the travel down there. Maybe I'm going to visit it again in some years and take a personal note on the Acropolis Museum myself. It might be not that bad, whatsoever. I've just judged by some pictures and subscriptions. But please let me decide myself what I prefer and what not - you've also been not that nice at all, with saying I'd have to update my taste and someone have to wake me up or whatever. Again, this is all about personal taste, you don't have to try to bring in 'facts' or to tell me it's a tourist top destination, that's obvious to me. That has nothing to do with my concernings about the whole matter, nevertheless.

Last try: Let's go off the air with this endless discussion. We differ on our agendas and it doesn't make sense to perpetuate this crosstalk.

But I hope we can agree on one thing: The Ancient heritage in and around Athens is one of the greatest things which remained on our beautiful mother earth - Let's keep these treasuries respectfully as long as it is possible!

ELLIN

December 11th, 2007, 01:58 AM

Ok...Although sometimes you insult without realize it and you seem to me unresearch of some things and making easy-fast-first impresion critisize.....(I dont think that Athens needs a defender the last decades)....
I will drink a beer with you...cause at last you know to become gentleman..while sometimes you destroy this profile....
cheers and dont be german on drinking part please cause :drunk:

skyduster

December 11th, 2007, 06:01 AM

erbsenzaehler,

Look, maybe you come across to people in a way that you don't realize. Both me and ELLIN interpreted your attitude as a bit patronizing and pompous. Maybe we're just being sensitive? I don't know. It just gets old when -every now and then- we get someone with a patronizing attitude, explaining down to us everything that's wrong with Athens, as if we are too ignorant to see it ourselves. You came across as a bit patronizing, and you've underestimated what Greeks know about their capital city, about its weaknesses, and how it compares to other European cities. You're not talking to the rural conservative Greek society of 1957. You're talking to the well-educated and relatively well-traveled Greek society of 2007. And I think that sometimes, poeple forget that.

If you ever mingle with Greek people, you'll notice that most Greeks and Athenians are very cynical and frustrated because we have been to Hamburg and Paris and Madrid and London and Prague, and we know how lovely these cities are, and why can't Athens be like that too. Myself, my family moved around growing up, as you can see under my "location". It doesn't cost much to travel within Europe nowadays, and an Athenian or a Thessalonian can hop on a plane and visit Munich in just over 2 hours. And there's also television, magazines, and the internet, and 17 million tourists that visit Greece every year, and don't forget returning expats. We are not some isolated people living in a remote location never interacting with the outside world. Sorry if I'm going off on a bit of soap-box speech, but sometimes, I get that from people.

I never said -nor will I say- that Athens has made a "360-roundabout". And no one in Athens or Greece has ever said this. There remains a lot of work to be done. However, much has changed, and the city is constantly improving. No the city hasn't changed tenfold since you visited in 2005, however Athens is a little better in 2007 than it was in 2005. And it was a little better in 2005 than it was in 2003. And it'll be a little better in 2009 than it was in 2007.

Change is gradual, we can't bulldoze the city overnight. And we also need to allocate time and funds to schools, hospitals, motorways, and other much-needed projects. As I said, keep visiting every year and every decade, and you'll notice the city's gradual -but noticeable- changes.

As for your opinions on the Acropolis Museum: I don't disagree with you. However, you did bring up the city of Athens itself, opening that up to discussion. You see, we all agree that the modernists damaged the city. No one denies this. And my point was that: you are not telling us anything we don't already know.

And allow me to correct you on history: the last war Athens experienced was not 100 years ago. It was the Greek civil war 1947-1949 which followed the Second World War (when Greece was occupied by axis powers in 1941). In both these wars, Athens (and other Greek cities) were subject to considerable damage.

It's not your opinions that rubbed me the wrong way. As I already said, I don't disagree with you much. It's the way you were expressing your opnions. By "enlightening" us. I'm not demanding that people withhold their opinions, and praise an architctural or urban planning development they didn't like. By all means, this is a forum to discuss these topics, and we need to open and expressive.

I hope we can now understand each other. :cheers1:

nastyathenian

December 11th, 2007, 12:46 PM

ELLIN

December 11th, 2007, 04:47 PM

Having visited several German-speaking cities, I can understand erbsenzaehler’s way of thinking.

Compared to them Athens looks like the epitome of urban ugliness, just one step better than Cairo.

As for the museum, IMO it is even uglier than the surrounding apartment buildings.

IMO it is even uglier than the surrounding apartment buildings.......:lol::lol::lol:
Ok....OKKKKKKK!!!
Happy that you makes us the favour to stay with us and see only bad parts of a city and not good ones....sorry but the Barok has passed ,if the modern is a curse and IMO is the ungliest building....nastyathenian....wish you a better stay in the future somewhere else....
Enas ragias eisai...pou prosvalei tin idia tou tin xora....

nastyathenian

December 11th, 2007, 10:23 PM

ELLIN

December 12th, 2007, 12:20 AM

If you believe that this room......is better to preserve the Parthenon marbles
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/20106969_f7e1b42350.jpg
than this......
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1715403373_4dbbb86430_o-1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/hiuh-1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1696491385_023017016a_o-1.jpg
with full attic light interiors and views of the monuments...i would suggest to ask the antiquities and I warn you that the captured in London Caryatid is professional in boxing:lol:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/2085007704_b638d3f607_o.jpg
Lets see the museum finish....

vari k.

December 12th, 2007, 01:05 AM

ellin, why are you getting insulted? These are people's opinions, they don't like the museum....not everybody will like it :nuts: live with it.

ELLIN

December 12th, 2007, 02:09 AM

ellin, why are you getting insulted? These are people's opinions, they don't like the museum....not everybody will like it :nuts: live with it.

Varin karin Im going rest really good tonight and relax as allways after a hard work....dont be bothered...:)

Giorgio

December 12th, 2007, 04:09 PM

This is the British Museum:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3159/britishmuseumpk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The British can claim that its design is closer to the Acropolis, therefore it is more suitable to host the Parthenon marbles.

Acropolis Museum has much more to do in design terms with the acropolis. British Museum has no relation to it at all. Its columns are not even the same order. These are Ionic.

The Acropolis Museum was built with same dimensions as the Parthenon which makes it closer related.

somataki

December 16th, 2007, 08:54 PM

The south facade:
http://time-blog.com/looking_around/6.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44176000/jpg/_44176322_ap416museum.jpg

HAMSI

December 19th, 2007, 01:11 PM

This is the British Museum:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3159/britishmuseumpk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The British can claim that its design is closer to the Acropolis, therefore it is more suitable to host the Parthenon marbles.

This is the Pergamon Museum in Berlin.It has many ancient pieces from Pergamon and Miletus.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Pergamonmuseum_Front.jpg/800px-Pergamonmuseum_Front.jpg

http://berlin-germany.ca/images/pergamonmuseum01.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Pergamonmuseum_Herculaneum_01.jpg/450px-Pergamonmuseum_Herculaneum_01.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Pergamonmuseum_Pergamonaltar.jpg/800px-Pergamonmuseum_Pergamonaltar.jpg

http://www.kirikou.com/alemania/berlin/museos/pergamon/pergamum_altar/pergamum_altar10.jpg

http://www.berlin-motive.de/berlin/Sehenswuerdigkeiten/Mitte/Museumsinsel/Perganmon/500/pergamon04.jpg

TallBox

December 19th, 2007, 04:13 PM

Acropolis Museum is an amazing building. Would love to have something similar in Central London

LEAFS FANATIC

December 19th, 2007, 04:15 PM

Enas ragias eisai...pou prosvalei tin idia tou tin xora....

Well said.

ELLIN

December 20th, 2007, 12:56 AM

Acropolis Museum is an amazing building. Would love to have something similar in Central London

You have the Parthenon marbels dear in central London..dont take from us now the New Acropolis museum too:lol:
by the way central London make a serious work on architecture too....

MPJK

December 22nd, 2007, 11:00 PM

Cerises

December 23rd, 2007, 05:00 AM

Well I happen to love the new museum! It's very beautiful and spacious inside, the view seems amazing and would be a great backdrop to view great ancient relics of the Greeks, and I'd personally love to visit it. Museums don't have to have 50 columns to house amazing relics of the past so I am quite sure this building will turn out really nice, especially since it's so near to the amazing Acropolis. As an Australian, I look forward to visiting Athens - especially because in my novels, one of the protagonists can't stop speaking about his dream to visit Athens. It makes me want to do the same! :) Good luck to Athens and hopefully everything works out well!

Thank you for your nice words! Athens is indeed a great city and I believe you won't be disappointed when you visit it! My sentiments on the new museum are positive too. This project is a very important one for our city, building this new and modern museum that will house these precious antiquities is certainly a plus and most importantly the new museum will allow our country to pursue its quest of having the Parthenon marbles returned home where they belong!

SouthernEuropean

December 23rd, 2007, 05:37 AM

city_thing

December 23rd, 2007, 01:04 PM

ELLIN

December 24th, 2007, 01:13 AM

I feel the same about Athens at MPJK does. It looks like an amazing city, and I've love to see the Pantheon marbles returned.

Plus I could eat Greek food for the next 100 years and never get sick of it.
It is 100% that you will not sick not cause it is tastefull but really healthy...
we are the heaviest smokers in Europe,we are the most enterainment living..we eating allways after 9 oclock at night....we have more kilos than the average...and we havent the healthiest way of living....
but as a nation we have one of the highest average period of life in men and women....what scientictis tell about this paradox??....
greek cuisine(olive oil,vegetables,healthy way of cooking)

as for the new museum
is already open the first floor for a special exibition ...until the end of March 2008
they present the ancient toys and games have been found during the excavations for the New Acropolis museum structure....
HERE are some of the finds in the ground under the base on the New Museum
this is one of the room of the house in the basement that will be visible and acessable by the visitors of the museum
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1abc3a.jpg

an ancient toy
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/v1abc3b.gif
a key of the ancient houses
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/v1abc3c.gif
an ancient toy
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/v1abc3d.gif
the ancient way of lighting the house:)
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/v1abc3e.gif
as you realize it will be a whole excavation part of the ancient Athens from the prehistoric years until the early Byzantines,aceesable by the visitors of the museum in the basement....structured in a special way to be full of sunlight and presented in the best way for the best possible acessibility from the visitor....
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/ContentSegment_5146571_1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/1696612841_b39d4cfb58.jpg

SouthernEuropean

December 24th, 2007, 01:29 AM

but as a nation we have one of the highest average period of life in men and women....what scientictis tell about this paradox??....
greek cuisine(olive oil,vegetables,healthy way of cooking)

that's true..but i think he was referring more to some mainstream kind of unhealthier cuisine of Greece such as gyros..etc..although thinking about it nothing is really unhealthy even the mainstream stuff such as the greek salad..are very healthy..hmm however souvlakis are not i believe:lol:

ELLIN

December 24th, 2007, 01:46 AM

that's true..but i think he was referring more to some mainstream kind of unhealthier cuisine of Greece such as gyros..etc..although thinking about it nothing is really unhealthy even the mainstream stuff such as the greek salad..are very healthy..hmm however souvlakis are not i believe:lol:

you believe wrong..cause souvlakis have grilled meat...healthier way to cook the meat
Tzatziki...(olive oil,yochurt,garlic) the triple of the healthiest ingredients
Tomato
and greek Pita...just virgin ingredients with lots of olive oil ....
no butter not fry....
full of calories but not unhealthy ones....
is this the topic of New Acropolis Museum or am I wrong???:lol:

vari k.

December 26th, 2007, 12:51 AM

It is 100% that you will not sick not cause it is tastefull but really healthy...
we are the heaviest smokers in Europe,we are the most enterainment living..we eating allways after 9 oclock at night....we have more kilos than the average...and we havent the healthiest way of living....

you use the word MOST a lot...as though the greeks are most in everything

ELLIN

December 26th, 2007, 01:20 AM

you use the word MOST a lot...as though the greeks are most in everything

:lol::lol::lol:
and that seems to insult you??
Greeks are not most in everything of corse....as happens the same with the Albanians....it is different saying one of the most...than the most...I mention negative and positive mosts....I will advice you to keep your personall critisism out..and remain to the topic critisism...cause until now you are just making personal posts....greeks will not hurt you...I know that you have some nightmares....but there is no reason...21th century here...and this is an architecture topic..most of the workers in this museum,are your patriots..this structure cause them,more money,and more progress to their lifes.....
so ....let us know for any question about the development otherwise,wish you a dreamfull campaing....full of victories..just try not fell from your bed

TU 'cane

December 26th, 2007, 03:29 AM

wow this is really cool.

potiz81

December 28th, 2007, 09:38 PM

I think it is almost finished!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2040/2095804633_689f32afa2_o.jpg

SouthernEuropean

December 28th, 2007, 10:37 PM

:lol::lol::lol:
and that seems to insult you??
Greeks are not most in everything of corse....as happens the same with the Albanians....it is different saying one of the most...than the most...I mention negative and positive mosts....I will advice you to keep your personall critisism out..and remain to the topic critisism...cause until now you are just making personal posts....greeks will not hurt you...I know that you have some nightmares....but there is no reason...21th century here...and this is an architecture topic..most of the workers in this museum,are your patriots..this structure cause them,more money,and more progress to their lifes.....
so ....let us know for any question about the development otherwise,wish you a dreamfull campaing....full of victories..just try not fell from your bed

:yes: yep well said.

SouthernEuropean

December 28th, 2007, 11:00 PM

and for those who don't know..this is what the old museum looks like...:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1011/716755865_1ca598e050.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/475641580_01f809179f.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1366/755801325_b211b61d57.jpg?v=0

now..compare.....:laugh:.....:banana:

somataki

January 4th, 2008, 09:22 PM

New picture from flickr:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2331/2165950778_96d770f978_b.jpg

Cerises

January 4th, 2008, 09:50 PM

The image on the reflective glass is phenomenal! And will be even more so when that crane is removed! :D

ELLIN

January 4th, 2008, 09:55 PM

The image on the reflective glass is phenomenal! And will be even more so when that crane is removed! :D

If you walk at night ,you can see the antiquities inside the Museum......really impresive..after the glass house of the 21th century ,now we have the glass Museum:lol:

Here can be seen even during day light the antiquities wooden boxes,
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/2165950778_96d770f978_b.jpg

somataki

January 10th, 2008, 12:08 PM

The museum behind the buildings (from frlickr):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2372/2179422362_2541cdd709_b.jpg

savas

January 11th, 2008, 12:12 PM

The President of the Hellenic Republic, Mr. Karolos Papoulias, visited yesterday the "Wonder that highlights Greece, Athens and Culture", the New Acropolis Museum.

http://media2.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20080111/low/assets_LARGE_t_420_302854.JPG

"It is a landmark, a sign of hellenic history and culture but also of our demand for those who are not able to understand how importand it is for the stolen treasures to return home, to their birthplace of creation and to get lighted by the Attik Sun."

http://media2.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20080111/low/assets_LARGE_t_420_302857.JPG

President of the New Acropolis Museum Construction Organisation Prof. D. Pantermalis who accompanied Mr. Papoulias at the guided tour, stressed the necessity of the reunification of the Parthenon Marbles: "Where they should get reunited, in the British Museum or under the Attik Sun, next to the Holy Rock of the Acropolis, is to be decided by the international community"

Mr. Papoulias was very interested in the proposal of a friendly meeting with Nicolas Sarkozy, President of France for a discussion about the Frieze and the Metope that are in Louvre Museum. The idea is not only to get a copy of them but also to get the originals themselves back. "But our first priority are the Parthenon Marbles"

ELLIN

January 12th, 2008, 01:11 AM

The reflection of the monuments on the glass of Parthenon room part 2

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/newacropolis.jpg

somataki

January 14th, 2008, 02:10 PM

View of the entrance (from flickr):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2040/2188109310_34960a6a44_o.jpg

potiz81

January 16th, 2008, 11:15 PM

I love this museum! great exterior design and outstanding interiors, an absolute 21 st century's museum!

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/e88/e88bae28aac85310ebf0f9dfec70475a.jpg?ts=1200518066

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/146/146c3245048a82331604aff42f40d1b1.jpg?ts=1200518068

cris24s

January 16th, 2008, 11:42 PM

Hi guys!
Nice job I must say... I have a question and probably one of you will take the answer :)
Was there a project that included the rebuilding the old Parthenon and some other important monumets from Athens (or from Greece)? That will be an impressive project.

ELLIN

January 17th, 2008, 12:06 AM

Hi!!
Yes there is a really big programm of reconstruction the Acropolis monuments and some others monuments around Greece.The most important programm is take place on the Parthenon where the last years a tremendous workd have been made to rebuild some parts and recollect all the missing marbel pieces around acropolis area and the world and put them back on the monuments.....
check this thread for the Acropolis restoration...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=556296

ELLIN

January 17th, 2008, 12:21 AM

some new photos of the museum
back of the building
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_8.jpg

Entrance
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_7.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_6.jpg

Interiors
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_5.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_4.jpg

Exteriors
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_2.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_1.jpg

potiz81

January 18th, 2008, 02:38 AM

[QUOTE=ELLIN;17752528][B]Interiors

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/myImage_4.jpg

[QUOTE]

WOW!!!!

Nick3dz

January 20th, 2008, 11:58 PM

Inside the Museum

http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/16.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/1.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/10.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/11.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/12.jpg
(Amazing!)
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/13.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/15.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/19.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/21.jpg
(Missing pieces??>( )
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/22.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/23.jpg
OMG!!
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/5.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/6.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/7.jpg
http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/9.jpg

Is Athens "pick up her pieces" ?????
Hopefully!!

Reaper-strain

January 21st, 2008, 05:19 AM

No, the English would rather die then return the pieces they bought off the Turks. This museum will never see the return of the Greek marbles.

Shezan

January 21st, 2008, 05:43 AM

nice valorization...

somataki

January 23rd, 2008, 01:24 AM

A new foto from Acropolis looking to the museum (from flickr.com):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2102/2212062871_32b844fb09_b.jpg

potiz81

January 24th, 2008, 01:18 AM

I found more new pictures from the web:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/2214493159_ebb2d426a5_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2189/2215267662_9f683185f9_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2214501499_e5ff197354_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2332/2215329592_3c19a96f41_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2060/2214491367_96e5774318_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/2214483511_f34d6a6f55_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/2214537659_ac49c1ac5c_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/2215278954_8c5ba0ced0_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/2214489697_7fd5ea56f9_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2150/2214486703_657e4ae25d_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2214501499_e5ff197354_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/2214501841_c6eac2813b_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/2215320146_c79ecb464d_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2081/2215273688_71c744e576_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2083/2215324440_2a1ec61bcc_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2214480987_ec74e9ea7a_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/2215337404_ab61a6b893_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2200/2214529687_6f829c1e4a_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2144/2214519371_9249009805_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2339/2215318712_cdfa74c578_b.jpg

potiz81

January 28th, 2008, 01:27 AM

Some more:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2215343068_c333746827_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/2215269574_1031500940_o.jpg

And the old one :

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2200/2116589092_aa620e7ddd_b.jpg

Giorgio

February 16th, 2008, 04:01 AM

So is it open or not?
It must be ready by July!

ELLIN

February 19th, 2008, 02:30 AM

So is it open or not?
It must be ready by July!

There is a lot of work to be done...
2 streets,Mitseon and Makriyanni next to the museum they will be turned to pedestrians...
There is a whole job right now from the scientistis to see the best way and position to preserve and base the antiquities..this will take a long...
The back side is under construction,the parking of the museum is not finshed,and there are 3 neoclassical buildings in the area of the museum that are waiting for the renovation....
We wait also for the renovation of the modern buldings that are circle the museum,which is the typical Athenian apartment building,and they are need an improvement on their image(ac boxes covery,painting etc)....the New Acropolis Museum will be open at the end of 2008...

Andre_Filipe

February 20th, 2008, 05:38 PM

Wow looks like an amazing museum :shocked: Well done Athens! :D

potiz81

February 20th, 2008, 11:26 PM

New pictures!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/2275636870_468f14f36b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2275633140_15d2eda577_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2274833361_934595ef6c_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2274834169_df23205d38_b.jpg

/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8

February 22nd, 2008, 09:01 PM

Wooow incredible museum is amazing:drool::master::eek2:

SouthernEuropean

February 22nd, 2008, 09:27 PM

lovely museum!!day by day i like it more and more...!!!

Gutovsky

February 22nd, 2008, 09:52 PM

Only a country with a history as Greece's could have not just the impressive museum, but also even more impressive works of art in it. Congrats Greece, great work! The ancestry sure derves it!

ELLIN

February 24th, 2008, 04:46 PM

Only a country with a history as Greece's could have not just the impressive museum, but also even more impressive works of art in it. Congrats Greece, great work! The ancestry sure derves it!

Exactly Gutovsky!!:)
and this is the whole structure philosofy of the building and his creator Tsumi...the building is impressive ,but it keeps its minimalistic character ,as a case to preserve the antiquities of the Acropolis monuments.....

flymordecai

February 25th, 2008, 08:36 AM

I love the design of this museum, subtle and simple. A modern twist on the Parthenon archetype. It is worthy of holding the art of ancient Greece.

ELLIN

March 17th, 2008, 01:53 AM

Video about the construction and the transport of the exhibits

http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/webnews/newslist.asp?offset=0&nid=44&lid=2

JohnnyMass

March 17th, 2008, 03:04 AM

outstanding piece of architecture!:applause:

djsavash

March 18th, 2008, 03:44 PM

they build something different from the others..it's amazing modern museum

Kuvvaci

March 18th, 2008, 05:13 PM

interior: wonderful!

exterior: horrible!

Giorgio

March 18th, 2008, 05:24 PM

Why is it horrible Kuvvaci?
Does it not generously leave the glorious sight of the Parthenon untouched with its modest architecture?
Imagine if it were a loud building...would detract from the vibe of the area.

I think its just stunning, inside and out!

ELLIN

March 18th, 2008, 09:14 PM

meds

March 18th, 2008, 11:26 PM

ELLIN

March 19th, 2008, 01:03 AM

Why are you attacking him?
This is a open forum sweety and people has rights to say their opinions
And why you protect him???
are you his lawyer???
:bash:and by the way is also MY opinion

ELLIN

March 19th, 2008, 01:17 AM

Greece push for return of Marbles

Changes in museum policies and an increase in instances of cooperation between different countries for the repatriation of looted artifacts could pave the way for the return of the Parthenon Marbles, Culture Minister Michalis Liapis told an international conference in Athens yesterday.

“More and more museums are adopting tighter ethics codes and governments are promoting cooperation, so the ideal momentum is being created for clear solutions,” Liapis told the UNESCO event at the New Acropolis Museum.

Museum officials and archaeologists gave several examples of repatriated artifacts, such as the Obelisk of Axum, returned to Ethiopia from Rome in 2005. Experts also remarked upon the increase of works being smuggled out of war zones.

Christiane Tytgat, former curator at the Royal Museums of Art and History in Brussels and director of the Netherlands Institute in Athens, said the Parthenon Marbles, currently in the British Museum, should be sent back too.“I support their return unreservedly... this is where they belong,” Tytgat said.

savas

March 19th, 2008, 02:53 AM

What you expect from him????:lol:
Maybe with few tourlou tourlou oriental anatolian decoration he could find it better:lol:

The museum exterior is amazing....you can realize it if you pass outside,and see the reflections of the Acropolis monuments on its glasses and its quality minimalistic design.....

I would advise you to mind your language and to respect other peoples opinions. If he thinks the museum does not look nice from the outside then this is something you have to respect or try to convince him of the opposite.

Having an opinion is not the same with offending someone for his opinion.

And just for the record "tourlou" is delicious

ELLIN

March 19th, 2008, 03:50 AM

I would advise you to mind your language and to respect other peoples opinions. If he thinks the museum does not look nice from the outside then this is something you have to respect or try to convince him of the opposite.

Having an opinion is not the same with offending someone for his opinion.

And just for the record "tourlou" is delicious

We agree Savas....Tourlou is great...and the critisism is repsectfull..but words like "horible" ,posted without any conviction ,just to explode a thread..NOT...
and my opinion is that his anatolian taste,finds a minimalistic architecture profile to horible for the oriental,collourfll tastes of his profile:lol:
at last i havent made this thread to open a fight....i would like to see posts regarding the museum...if ayone else have problem with me he can PM me..other wise is just a provocation:cheers:

ELLIN

March 19th, 2008, 04:08 AM

The "unique" technology of New Acropolis Museum glass
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/306047545_6a6ceefd50.jpg

Glass in the New Acropolis Museum
Glass is a key part of the design of the museum, being an ephemeral counterpoint to the massive masonry frame.
It is used not only for it’s traditional purpose to view out or let light in as in the windows in our home, but it is also used structurally. The glass supports itself and is not put in frames. That would have compromised the purity of the overall design composition. The tactile qualities of luminosity and reflectivity in the material are therefore given full expression.
Traditional glass has a familiar green tint. For the museum, a special purified glass with low levels of iron in the composition is used to minimise colour change in the natural light coming in to the galleries.
Parthenon Gallery
The walls of the Parthenon Gallery are all glass, using a structural double skin design. This double skin consists of the external wall of glass, visible from the exterior of the Museum, and a second skin of glass situated in the interior of the gallery. A space of 70 centimetres separates the two walls.
This interior layer does not reach down to the ground level of the interior space but is rather suspended approximately 2,25meters above the ground. As the internal skin is on the upper levels only, it minimizes any barrier to the view at viewer’s height.
The outer layer of this double skin design is in double glazing with printed ceramic dots to increase shading and reduce glare. The glass also has a high performance coating to protect against infrared radiation, which humans feel as heat. This coating prevents over heating inside the Gallery.
The system includes fabric shading screens for the most exposed South, East and West elevations.
The double skin functions much like a glass chimney or air corridor and is part of the air cooling system of the Museum. Cool air is introduced at the bottom edge of the glass all the way round the Gallery facade. The air that enters at the bottom of the ‘glass chimney’ heats up by solar radiation, either directly from the sun or indirectly by absorption in the glass or on
the shading screens. This heating up causes the air to rise naturally up to the top of the void where it is mechanically extracted. This flow of air limits the rise in temperature of the internal skin to around 23°C when the external temperature is about 40°C. The north elevation, with the view to the Parthenon itself, is not obstructed with shading.
The two glass skins are suspended from the roof edge. They are stiffened to resist wind pressure by glass fins that are perpendicular to the glass skins and rigidly fixed to the roof steel structure above. The whole system complies with European Design Codes standard pressures of up to 150kg/m² but was tested to 220kg/m2 for additional safety.
The weight of the glass itself, about 2,5 tons for each vertical row of glass panels, is supported on small stainless steel rods and bracket fittings placed in the joints. Even if the fins were to break, these fittings, together with the suspension rods provide a fail-safe security to limit the risk of falling glass.
Archaic Gallery Facades
The archaic gallery facades are single skin in double glazing and they are also designed to provide protection against excessive rise in temperature due to sunlight. At the same time they provide optimal natural light to view the exhibits.
The glass fins are again used on this façade, but rather than being placed to the interior, they are placed to the exterior, perpendicular to the glass façade. They are in effect turned ‘inside out’.
The fins span up to 9m for the double height spaces. This exceeds maximum sizes for the special heat treated safety glass used. Therefore two panes of glass are necessary to achieve this span and the fins are joined with a clamp splice at mid height.
Just as for the Parthenon gallery, the glass system is designed to resist earthquakes as well as maximum wind forces.
As far as protection against sun is concerned, these facades benefit from the large overhangs of the floors above that provide shade against the worst direct summer mid-day sun. However, in the early morning or evening, when the sun is lower in the sky at these times of the day, direct light rays could penetrate into the space.
To provide glare protection, the ‘inside-out’ fins are also coated with ceramic dot paint to provide shading against this lower angle sun.
Glass Floors
Throughout the museum, glass floors are extensively used to allow glimpses of the archaeological remains in the lower levels of the Museum. They are also used for small exhibition windows to showcases beneath the floor.
Multilayer slabs of laminated glass are used, combining impact resistant tempered glass with a textured anti-slip surface. The glass slabs rest on soft seals made from neoprene, the material used in wetsuits and laptop cases. These provide a soft and self-balancing bearing surface around the edges.
Hugh Dutton
Principal
HDA

ELLIN

March 23rd, 2008, 11:36 AM

Some new photos of the museum,that i believe will make sense,for the memorable interiors,and the first pics from the cafe...
Huge stairs
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/2243503440102157290rLQNqa_ph.jpg
Cafe-restaurant views
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/2453059000102157290gdYLtx_ph.jpg
Views of the Lycabetous
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/2462848550102157290YwVKpo_ph.jpg

connected_

March 24th, 2008, 03:02 PM

We agree Savas....Tourlou is great...and the critisism is repsectfull..but words like "horible" ,posted without any conviction ,just to explode a thread..NOT...
and my opinion is that his anatolian taste,finds a minimalistic architecture profile to horible for the oriental,collourfll tastes of his profile:lol:
at last i havent made this thread to open a fight....i would like to see posts regarding the museum...if ayone else have problem with me he can PM me..other wise is just a provocation:cheers:

So it's ok for you to generalise "without any conviction" (seeing as you don't even know what Kuvvaci's personal tastes are), but for him to do so is not ok? You completely disregarded the fact that he said the interior is wonderful! So if anyone's trying to provoke, it's you. Especially when you say baseless crap about racial stereotyping with regards to his "anatolian taste".

To keep on topic... the museum is looking fantastic and will definitely be a landmark for Athens. Hopefully there will be more stuff like this in the future!

savas

March 24th, 2008, 04:05 PM

There will. One of worlds best architects, Piano Renzo, has been choose by the Stavros Niarchos Foundation to design the New Opera House of Greece, the New Greek National Library and a Cultural Center in the waterfront of Athens, Faliron Delta. Area of 200.000 square meters, budget of 300 million euros ($442 million). Renderings are not released but this will happen in the next 2 months.

ikari

March 25th, 2008, 01:49 AM

It is a museum!!
It's amazing!! *___*
Really good job ;)

somataki

March 25th, 2008, 08:03 PM

New pictures:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3042/2361251736_a26295ce1a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2361073683_6cd0595d3b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2362240430_c347c93c7a_b.jpg

And a great video about the construction of the museum:

_UF-iBatUFs

megacool

March 26th, 2008, 01:32 PM

have to go for a visit :)

somataki

April 5th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Two new pictures from flickr:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2387892053_c5abf6837a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2366182945_6f2ccfb39c_o.jpg

If there are so many people that visit the museum, without exhibits inside, imagine what will happen when it will opperate with the exhibits inside!!!

Tiaren

April 5th, 2008, 04:49 PM

I like the architecture...but I don't think the ancient art is fitting in at all. The monumental architecture is overpowering everything on exhibition there. Seems as if the architect wanted to built himself a monument, rather than giving those ancient treasures a fitting home, which should be the main attraction.

Sad thing is, the British Museum will NEVER give the marbels back to Greece. Without them the British Museum wouldn't be what it used to be. And I can understand that too... If the Altar of Pergamon in Berlin would return to Turkey the loss couldn't be bigger too.

Arq. Juancho

April 7th, 2008, 04:44 AM

interior: wonderful!

exterior: horrible!

Well I think that the outer façade of the museum is very well done, it mixes with his environment and the building it resembles, they did a very good job about it, its better than having done a building that just copies the classical style and make a new one like the thousands that there already are around the world.

blakhart

April 7th, 2008, 06:55 AM

Stunning interior!

Waldenstrom

April 9th, 2008, 07:26 AM

looks great!

somataki

April 18th, 2008, 06:53 PM

Some new low-quality pics fron exterior and interior of the museum, found on Flickr.com:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2423253782_b350b34eed_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2190/2422439505_71d755e7c8_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/2423252770_913223b320_o.jpg

storms991

April 21st, 2008, 12:19 AM

How bland, a toddler could have designed this; I see hardly any effort in this design. Athens deserves better.

somataki

April 21st, 2008, 12:22 AM

How bland, a toddler could have designed this; I see hardly any effort in this design. Athens deserves better.

How u mean it? As for the interiors, these are the best interiors of any archaeological museum. As for the exterior, there is a dispute about how much it suits to the area...but lets wait until we see it finished very soon.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2191/2404019762_6b648ac5b4_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2222/2404022410_e172cff8c6_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2112/2403191107_0123cbb97b_b.jpg

storms991

April 21st, 2008, 12:33 AM

The exterior was what I was referring to; how does the building suit the area even slightly?

somataki

April 21st, 2008, 12:53 AM

The exterior was what I was referring to; how does the building suit the area even slightly?

According to architect Bernar Tschumi, the design of the building had to be neutral. The facade of the building reflects the rock of Acropolis and the Parthenon. The glass which is used on the building reflects the weather and the sky. And the top of the building, the Parthenon gallery has the same dimensions and the same orientation to he Parthenon, so the sculptures accept the natural liht in the same angle as hey were on Parthenon.

Alle

April 21st, 2008, 02:28 AM

I like it, clean design.

And how it incorporates the old stucture it seems

http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/15.jpg

The interior looks great

http://www.forthnet.gr/media/FOTOS/Gallery%2013/akropoli_esoterico/470xN/9.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/2214483511_f34d6a6f55_o.jpg

The ancient greeks worked hard to give greece and the world what they gave. So its in order that it can be continued :cheers: .

The interior is simply amazingly clean and intriguing and gives the limelight to the antiquities, exquisite. So grand and majestic yet tasteful , thought through and pragmatic. Congratulations athens.

skyboi

April 25th, 2008, 03:24 AM

Most of the people in this forum like this new Museum, including me :) so it 's a go , great job Athen , the future is bright for you !

savas

May 3rd, 2008, 04:39 PM

Some other pictures from the official website www.newacropolismuseum.gr

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/c96f9b9eb77a464bbcb2a38a44e852f1.jpg
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/gr/building_gallery/iwebalbumfiles/dd77871ca6684bd0a9753e275d3d1e92.jpg
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/gr/building_gallery/iwebalbumfiles/f1e3f09c94354729b91d6afb58b23baf.jpg
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/gr/building_gallery/iwebalbumfiles/da3b7f9edbd14811ad9109e1daa5d5a2.jpg
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/gr/building_gallery/iwebalbumfiles/abf972d116554f8d9ffefe26bac4a153.jpg
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/gr/building_gallery/iwebalbumfiles/4124f27c3eae4eb8a59bff4370fe75ca.jpg
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/gr/building_gallery/iwebalbumfiles/6a97b4d003da431e96e364818d936f22.jpg
http://www.newacropolismuseum.gr/gr/building_gallery/iwebalbumfiles/899b5cea16954931b530529247c2ccfd.jpg

SouthernEuropean

May 4th, 2008, 10:11 AM

i love it.And today...it's Acropolis Museum banner day!:cheers:

christos-greece

May 4th, 2008, 11:33 AM

^^ Yes it is great :cheers:

aradanasandhaya

May 4th, 2008, 03:16 PM

I like this.

---------------
Sandhaya.

Wow, check out this site called www.fluc.com. Free SMS and free mobile ads!! Its fantastic:banana:

ELLIN

May 7th, 2008, 01:52 PM

New realise!!!!

A 5 minutes video insight the New Acropolis Museum from BBC channel,
detailed descripion from the british journalist inside the under construction Parthenon glass room!!
New Acropolis museum chairman Professor Dimitrios Pandermalis gives the BBC's Malcolm Brabant a special tour around Greece's newest museum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7381738.stm

System_Halted

May 10th, 2008, 09:24 PM

Very nice interior.

somataki

May 14th, 2008, 06:23 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2491622237_866f969043_b.jpg

somataki

May 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM

New fotos from flickr:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2502061113_063e61f559_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2408/2502060907_4ef6c6dba0_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/2502060407_7009d7e5a6_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2502890564_4b4356869d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2502890336_2d2c6aecd8_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/2502061821_97ba42478d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2470990599_cdaaf06e34_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2502060607_2d56a713ef_o.jpg

ISTARI

May 19th, 2008, 01:54 AM

What a beautiful an elegant design. Love it, love it, love it!

Bitxofo

May 19th, 2008, 02:09 AM

Telia!
:okay:
I want to see it soon.
:wink2:

somataki

May 19th, 2008, 02:54 AM

The ground floor, the only part of the building which is open for the public:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/2502879281_f783afab11_b.jpg

somataki

May 26th, 2008, 02:18 AM

More:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2521987940_c29d32049e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2309/2520678373_5b871d5f8b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/2521494938_55a82cddc9_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2286/2521931306_f965fe36c0_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2521110311_e086fd0654_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2385/2521110133_5413fc495b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2380/2521298837_e73d98234b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/2521930730_7affc20e88_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2180/2520673333_688f11fb7f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2521931588_6022763c81_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2522115952_91207b7c04_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2050/2522119230_c3572f3d37_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/2522118444_b34803243f_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2521296559_53eb64f22a_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2284/2521296345_bc2bf1a9ba_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2026/2522115674_88a40c52e3_o.jpg

masterpaul

May 26th, 2008, 02:25 AM

ELLIN

May 26th, 2008, 07:56 PM

Britain give us our mables back now!!!

Greece doest care if Londons national museam will not get visited by tourists because of the lack of marbles. Just give em back!!!

What will happen to the old acroplolis museam? will it be turned into a cafetira or demolished?

In the building of the old Acropolis musuem will take place an exiition about the reconstruction projects of Acropolis the last 100 years....
in a small part of it and not viewable from the monuments will take place a small cafe for the visitors needs...

Urbanista1

May 26th, 2008, 08:23 PM

Looks amazing. Can't wait to visit Athens again.

Teriyaki

May 26th, 2008, 11:13 PM

Britain give us our mables back now!!!

Greece doest care if Londons national museam will not get visited by tourists because of the lack of marbles. Just give em back!!!

Germany has many marbles from Pergamon in the Berlin Pergamon Museum (the most visited museum in Germany).I was there and 90 % of the art and marbles are from Pergamon, Miletus,Priene,Magnesia and other ancient cities in Western Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Museum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Altar

ELLIN

May 27th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Germany has many marbles from Pergamon in the Berlin Pergamon Museum (the most visited museum in Germany).I was there and 90 % of the art and marbles are from Pergamon, Miletus,Priene,Magnesia and other ancient cities in Western Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Museum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Altar

well these historic greek terittories are not part of Hellenic republic....so it is your business to ask them back.....
of corse it is a different story....
Marbles of Parthenon have been broken...statues destroyed,the head is in Athens ,the hand in London...this is the cruel story of the only by name Lord Elgin....

Teriyaki

May 27th, 2008, 12:46 AM

Marbles of Parthenon have been broken...statues destroyed,the head is in Athens ,the hand in London...this is the cruel story of the only by name Lord Elgin....

If the head is in Athen and the hand in London,leg someone else......of course it doesn´t look good to have a semi-uncompleted-marble.

In Turkey german archaeologists have deported whole constructions of buildings,altars,libraries to Berlin in the end of the 19th century/begin of the 20th century and built the constructions up there again.It is like you go to Paris......cut the Eiffel Tower in peaces and deport it in boxes to Berlin and built it there again complete.The germans knew that these treasures will bring money and profit for their museums.This is crazy :nuts:

somataki

May 27th, 2008, 02:33 AM

If the head is in Athen and the hand in London,leg someone else......of course it doesn´t look good to have a semi-uncompleted-marble.

In Turkey german archaeologists have deported whole constructions of buildings,altars,libraries to Berlin in the end of the 19th century/begin of the 20th century and built the constructions up there again.It is like you go to Paris......cut the Eiffel Tower in peaces and deport it in boxes to Berlin and built it there again complete.The germans knew that these treasures will bring money and profit for their museums.This is crazy :nuts:

The matter is that Athens now has netx to Acropolis an incredible modern museum (sure that it is the most modern archaeological museum of the world) almost ready to host greek's most precious treasures, the marbles of Parthenon. The step is done. British museum must do the next step.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2353/2471813712_a6a7d4f312_b.jpg

Lucretius

July 8th, 2008, 01:34 AM

A small update from the new museum

The parthenon pediments

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2642895097_c3a8ac4a71.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2642895097_c3a8ac4a71_b.jpg)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2643732466_5c4706b711.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2643732466_5c4706b711_b.jpg)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2642899007_bf00e187d4.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2642899007_bf00e187d4_b.jpg)

The temple of Athena Nike
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2643707848_80224e8965.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2643707848_80224e8965_b.jpg)

The parthenon frieze
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2643715880_a005b125e9.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2643715880_a005b125e9_b.jpg)

And a small part of the archaic gallery
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2643703386_ffcf9acf9e.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2643703386_ffcf9acf9e_b.jpg)

ELLIN

July 10th, 2008, 01:07 AM

Lets inform that the white-not marble parts,is the pieces kept in the British museum...
The mising of antiquities from its base is OBVIOUS!!!:ohno:
AT LAST New Acropolis Museum wll show this missing and lost very good,so the visitors can realise the fair of the demand of returning the Parthenon Marbels to their home....from the "old way thinking of overseas territories" British museum....

potiz81

July 10th, 2008, 03:12 AM

Some new pics:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/2642021131_3216ba7d38_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2649681376_dd16da65d6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/2641645201_6a62ab187c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2641601863_010e3c16d8_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2642459770_6ff2df1a61_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2641270701_255c80cf05_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2642103032_1a2c1317ab_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3023/2642103318_9a76ac6fda_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2642120350_36e3042d12_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/2642418156_a797b29d90_b.jpg

somataki

July 16th, 2008, 03:12 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2661386067_0d0534a501_b.jpg

:eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2:

skytrax

July 16th, 2008, 04:12 PM

beautiful!!!

www.sercan.de

July 16th, 2008, 04:31 PM

is it still u/c?

somataki

July 16th, 2008, 04:34 PM

is it still u/c?

No, the building is finished. Now they prepare the exhinitions and the enviroment area, but public can visit it for 3 hours per day and watch the preparations.

www.sercan.de

July 16th, 2008, 04:51 PM

than we just close this thread and open a new one at ROT to rate this beauty :cheers:

ELLIN

July 16th, 2008, 07:22 PM

than we just close this thread and open a new one at ROT to rate this beauty :cheers:

There are many things havent finished...like the streets around the museum,the gardens and the parking of the museum...the AC facilities havent finished yet....
Sercan give your attention to your threads...I didnt ask for suggestions...:cheers: about the tread...if you have to add anythhing about the museum..you are welcome...

www.sercan.de

July 16th, 2008, 08:00 PM

whats so bad my moving it into the ROT section?
actually its better, because it will be rated

ELLIN

July 18th, 2008, 12:37 AM

whats so bad my moving it into the ROT section?
actually its better, because it will be rated

Pay attention to your threads.....
I didnt ask you for suggestions....the museum hasnt finished yet.....
If it is finished i will see where should be transered....
You are not a moderator...so look your business!!!!
The bad is your rudeness.....

systema magicum

August 23rd, 2008, 05:09 PM

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331464527.jpg

systema magicum

August 23rd, 2008, 05:22 PM

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331464873.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331465897.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331465396.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331465835.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331465440.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331465870.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331465324.jpg

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL384/9870812/17848831/331464898.jpg

www.sercan.de

August 24th, 2008, 08:23 PM

Pay attention to your threads.....
I didnt ask you for suggestions....the museum hasnt finished yet.....
If it is finished i will see where should be transered....
You are not a moderator...so look your business!!!!
The bad is your rudeness.....

Why so aggressive? :ohno:
So is it still u/c or is it already built?
somataki said taht it is finished.

crossbowman

August 25th, 2008, 03:40 PM

^ obviously ,as a whole ,it's not finished yet

www.sercan.de

August 26th, 2008, 11:11 PM

Thanks.

Lucretius

August 26th, 2008, 11:23 PM

Please excuse my friend Sercan. The building is finished as of June. But the permanent exhibition is still under development and it's scheduled to open by late 2008, so it's technically still under construction.

www.sercan.de

August 27th, 2008, 11:05 AM

Thanks again for the detailed information.

Lucretius

August 28th, 2008, 12:06 AM

here's a new photo from the archaic gallery with some of the exhibits being positioned
http://static.wallpaper.com/croppedimages/testuser5_aug2008_11_Tschumi_musP7310013_jb_JnWrcs_W6LLnm.jpg

Me likes!

systema magicum

August 29th, 2008, 04:39 PM

The archaic gallery gives the impression of a temple, the light is great and there is a very interesting contrast between the statues and the typical athenian blocks of flats.Day by day it becomes obvious that the concept of the design of this museum is unique and the experience of the museum will be unforgettable for every single visitor..and they will be millions of them the following years.
Is it possible that the installation of the exhibition will be complete until the end of the year?

Lucretius

August 29th, 2008, 04:51 PM

I see no reason for the contrary.

systema magicum

September 2nd, 2008, 04:28 PM

Bernard Tschumi speaks at Wallpaper magazine for his concept and the design of the New Acropolis Museum.
visit this site for the interview.
http://www.wallpaper.com/architecture/bernard-tschumi-qa-exclusive/2575

manila_eye

September 4th, 2008, 05:08 PM

i dont like the design. it's not coherent with the acient greek architecture.

ELLIN

September 4th, 2008, 06:06 PM

:)i dont like the design. it's not coherent with the acient greek architecture.

and thanks to the architect it is not!!!
Cause you dont make a museum to be compared to the exibits inside....you make a museum to present them.....i dont think a classical building under the "model" of the ancient classical architexture Acropolis monuments....worthwhile....the designed is minimalistic and cold...cause the main aim...is the presentation of the antiquities....the true stars of the museum:)

connected_

September 5th, 2008, 01:29 PM

i dont like the design. it's not coherent with the acient greek architecture.

And let's be thankful for that. There are too many archaic, neo-classic museums with carbon copies of one another around the world. The architect obviously thinks this design is reflective of the present and was smart enough to emulate that in his design. But the design also appropriates some notion of classical Greek architecture through its simplicity.

Like Ellin correctly pointed out, a museum should not replicate the artifacts it holds inside, and I'm sure many Athenians let alone Greeks share the same view.

Giorgio

September 5th, 2008, 03:23 PM

There has been debate about the design in the Greek forum.
See the actual design compared to Neo-classical mock-ups and you will realise this is the absolute best environment to present the gems of a great civilisation.

The architecture is definetly a quiet achiever here. Bland enough to not detract anything from the monuments, great enough to not distract patrons with its hideousness. What Tschumi has created is nothing short of a masterpiece - a perfect balance of simplicity and grandeur.

connected_

September 5th, 2008, 03:47 PM

^^Exactly! Now if only Australia had hired him to design one for us... National Museum = :puke:

Kuvvaci

September 6th, 2008, 01:53 AM

wich one will be more impressive, Arcropole or this museum?

ELLIN

September 6th, 2008, 04:07 AM

wich one will be more impressive, Arcropole or this museum?

No comparison!!!!
Acropolis represents the perfection of the clasical architecture....-and the years will comes will prove it...and the opening of corse....-the New Acropolis Museum will represent the perfection of the museology and the new ways of presenting aniquities and art exibits.....
and as the architect said...."after a very taff time thinking..i have find out that there is not better colour to feel the marbel lightfull than the grey on the back...."
"there is not a better way to exbit the Parthenon statues than presenting them under the sunlight as Phidias insired and create them..."
so before making "fast comment" i will advide you to follow the philosofy of the building...Especially the locals had also bad opinion on the really begining...a short visit on the small exibition for 2 hours takes place the last 3 months have change the first "easy and fast" comments against the museum to a really impresive comments....of the amazing interiors and the work takes place.....As the time aproach for the opening..im getting more and more suprice from the news and the preparations....the Parthenon glass floor...is incredible lit during night.....you can see the statues inside..."the greeks on the horses enjoying the Panathinea day.....and parts of the Titanomaxia battle".....while you change your position of your face on the back the Acropolis monument are lit on golden light......
I really believe Tsumi is genius!!!:)

Kuvvaci

September 6th, 2008, 04:56 PM

ELLIN

September 6th, 2008, 05:47 PM

^^ but when visitors (like me who visited Athens) will have two different impression and for sure people will compare the effects. Because the museum will give them a different athmosphere and Acropole has much more different athmosphere.

I am not sure if I could explain. But what I mean is "pchychological effect".

It will not give you a different atmospere.....in Athens you allways see these while you walking...different parts of history...prehistoric,ancient,midleages,modern...you see that in the buildings,at the monuments...everywhere...happens the same with Acropolis and the new museum....the antiquities are just delivered in a more update and technolically better place.....
trust me..when you enter in the museum and you face over your head the Caryatides girls...on the upper floor..it gives you the impression you entering to their home...you cant find any better welcome than the smile and the beauty of these girls looking you passing under them....thats why i believe museum is super clever.....it has find the way to feel the antiquities inside not as their new exibition centre...but as their home....because it has been designed to make a bonus on them.....it is strange but you feel the same glory and impression of the perfection of the art of the classical period of Athens.......the differencies of the historic period...and the way it has been al these put together....
Few months to go.....and i hope most of you to find the luck and visit the museum..so everyone will have its opinion....

ps:
A last time info....
The ceremony of the opening of the museum which is planed the first month of 2009 will take place from Dimitris Papaioanou the archist of the opening ceremony of the Olympic games of Athens at 2004.....
as it is also anounced in the opening it is asked to participate the official authorities(Presidents,Prime ministers,Kings,Queens) of the countries all over the world....

Kuvvaci

September 6th, 2008, 06:27 PM

^^okay,okay obviously I couldn't tell what I mean... nevermind.

ipal

September 8th, 2008, 10:04 PM

a museum at its finest. i hope that i can see it one of this days. i really want to see that parthenon room.

philip

September 12th, 2008, 12:32 PM

I have always fantasized myself walking on a sheet of glass above ruins of an ancient civilization.

savas

September 16th, 2008, 03:09 PM

Opening in 2009
16.09.08 e-tipos

Mr. Liapis, Minister of Culture said the New Acropolis Museum will open next year, probably on March.

The minister of Culture said that the Opening Ceremony of the Museum will be accompanied by events across Europe before and after the opening.

Mr. Liapis expressed his hope that the British Museum will finaly understand that the stolen Parthenon Marbles must return to Athens.

He also answered that the Opening Ceremony of the New Acropolis Museum will be created
by avand garde choreograph Dimitris Papaioannou (creator among others of the Athens 2004 Opening Ceremony (...)

News in Greek Εγκαίνια το 2009 (http://www.e-tipos.com/newsitem?id=51843)

******************************************************

somataki

September 22nd, 2008, 12:55 AM

New pics from flickr:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2824266512_4650c66575_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2856297929_a2b29e15b3_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2856290955_d190f45eed_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2856244481_26719bf207_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/2835779103_427cb337dc_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2856246845_6dce4c3752_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/2857085850_e6aeb2e9c7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2856293065_605dd8468f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2856252457_f749b3b7a1_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3053/2857092406_8cf01d5b92_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2860742652_6a7079365d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/2856264051_20bd578033_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/2857074138_5d99c94ff6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2857118578_273152c187_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2856256837_0a9ab5e689_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/2856266321_6645e791d6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2856268239_e95161b0d7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/2857061440_98fda9f1c0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/2857045740_a680ed8ef9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2856184907_4e671ddc37_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2857037364_89ff91693c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2856223859_eaef6a2766_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2856201989_13b5edcf50_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2856211895_a0464cd945_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2857027294_5dc8538bb9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3254/2857023294_f6cc65f00e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2857018616_6fecc3c55c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2856183367_8b749a682b_b.jpg

systema magicum

October 10th, 2008, 05:31 PM

very interesting photos!!!
and mine...
http://pic40.picturetrail.com:80/VOL384/9870812/20480791/337006169.jpg

systema magicum

October 10th, 2008, 06:15 PM

http://pic40.picturetrail.com:80/VOL384/9870812/20480791/337005142.jpg

Lucretius

October 10th, 2008, 06:20 PM

Great photo!
Maybe in larger resolution?

URSUS

October 10th, 2008, 06:58 PM

Nice museum!

ELLIN

October 25th, 2008, 04:09 PM

2 informative and intresting videos from the interview of the President of New Acropolis museum Dr.Dimitris Patenmarlis to the publisher of Global Atlanta Phil Bolton.
v/bLIMVuF6IOE&hl=en&fs=1

v/yItxnMiIwJ0&hl=en&fs=1[/

systema magicum

October 25th, 2008, 09:17 PM

^^ very interesting videos, thanks ELLIN.:dance:

Kuvvaci

October 26th, 2008, 12:01 PM

it became really greate museum.

ELLIN

January 9th, 2009, 01:44 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2656987332_404e4d4374.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/throughnothing/2656987332/sizes/o/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3176890878_4555fbd401.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3176890878_464c1d6276_o.jpg) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/3176054575_7744dd0707.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/3176054575_0dae02b4b2_o.jpg) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/3176054295_38b87bd290.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/3176054295_6af2636492_o.jpg) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/3176889930_b4007ee96f.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/3176889930_0412706bb9_o.jpg)
http://www.citypress.gr/media/cc5a43bd545b19715e900fb7bf6f5dcc.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/2955021637_35f98f0391.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthiasbln/2955021637/sizes/l/) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2955431906_2a03876b46.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthiasbln/2955431906/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2661386067_0d0534a501_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75694509@N00/2661386067/sizes/l/) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2955431916_0b978cee98_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthiasbln/2955431916/sizes/l/) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2964347982_015337dce7_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27903273@N05/2964347982/sizes/o/)

Νόστοι...και μια κόρη αξίας 1,5 εκ. δολαρίων
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2925675048_129f90c2a6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/madeleine_shepherd/2925675048/sizes/o/) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/3082349859_59ba7f39c0_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frenchkerr/3082349859/sizes/o/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2860742652_6a7079365d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/flovething/2860742652/sizes/o/) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/3132453223_48a7ed5642.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickandjanephotos/3132453223/sizes/l/)
Some new photos during the most important period of the construction of the Acropolis Museum, the setting of its antiquities...

Posted in Hellenic Agora from Lucretius

somataki

January 21st, 2009, 01:42 AM

Preparing the masterpieces of exhibition:

Vqh8fdH7ZhU

ELLIN

January 21st, 2009, 02:52 PM

Preparing the masterpieces of exhibition:

WOW....GREAT video...Thanks:)

ELLIN

March 6th, 2009, 11:37 AM

Ancients modernised at New Acropolis
The British will have to come up with a new excuse to hang on to the Parthenon frieze sculptures known as the Elgin Marbles. With the polished spaces of Athens' New Acropolis Museum about to open, there can be no suggestion Greece lacks an appropriate stage to show off the ancient marble reliefs.

Conceived 30 years ago, the museum was to have opened before the 2004 Olympic Games, but it is only now nearing completion. The 130 million euro ($325m) building at the foot of the Acropolis, the imposing rocky outcrop bearing the Parthenon temple, is finished. The reception space is open, but the upper galleries remain cordoned off, except to us.

At the top of the wide central staircase, you arrive in an expansive hall marrying ancient and modern: smooth marble floors and polished concrete pillars. Soft light filters through the glass wall, throwing a golden glow on to the statues.

The idea is to keep conditions as close to those of the original Acropolis as possible - sunlight and no glass showcases. If the sunshine becomes too intense, automatic blinds drop to protect the delicate antiquities.

It's clearly a work in progress. Some statues have not yet been hoisted on to their marble plinths. Others are still stacked in crates in the corners, taped with A4 sheets bearing photos and identification numbers for the artefacts inside.

The museum's beauty is its simplicity. There's nothing flashy, just gorgeously airy uncluttered spaces almost 10 times the size of its predecessor on the Acropolis.

The work of Swiss-French architect Bernard Tschumi, the plans were selected after no fewer than four design competitions.

Sited on third, fourth and seven-century ruins, the museum was controversial from its conception. Tschumi found a way around that by designing a glass floor over much of the site that both protected and exposed the archaeological dig below: a fantastic concept, but a nightmare in practical terms. The excavations took seven years, only to have to be filled in with truckloads of chip for protection during construction. They are being painstakingly uncovered again for the museum's opening.

There are other winning touches. The building's upper gallery, which houses the all- important marble relief, matches exactly the dimensions and orientation of the frieze's old home, the Parthenon. Visitors can also see the Parthenon itself through the glass gallery, and even reflected in the windows from the balcony.

Athens holds only about 40 per cent of the remaining marble sculptures, believed to depict the annual procession to the Acropolis to present a new garment to the goddess Athena. Most of the rest of the collection is housed in the British Museum, having been removed by Lord Elgin in the early 19th century.

The Greek government hopes the new museum will spur Britain to return the antiquities. In the meantime, the Elgin Marbles are represented by plaster casts, their shallow depth and starker white face distinguishing them from the marble originals.

* Nikki Macdonald travelled to Greece courtesy of the Greek National Tourism Organisation
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/1756244

THE NEW ACROPOLIS MUSEUM WILL BE OPENED AT 20 OF JUNE 2009:)

potipoti

March 6th, 2009, 12:47 PM

THE NEW ACROPOLIS MUSEUM WILL BE OPENED AT 20 OF JUNE 2009:)

perfect!!! i will go to athens 2 days after the museum is opened, so i will take some time to visit it :cheers:

ELLIN

March 7th, 2009, 05:55 PM

perfect!!! i will go to athens 2 days after the museum is opened, so i will take some time to visit it :cheers:

Lucky you!!!
Cheers to beautifull Madrid!!

ELLIN

May 23rd, 2009, 12:56 AM

Acropolis treasuries on display for one euro
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/athenian82/assets_LARGE_t_420_3743071_type1149.jpg

The ticket to see the 2,500-year-old sculptures from the Parthenon and other temples on the Acropolis hill will cost just €1 this year – the same price as a journey on the subsidised Athens metro. By comparison a ticket for Paris’s Louvre costs €9, or €14 ($19.56, £12.34) to include temporary exhibitions, and New York’s Metropolitan Museum charges $20 (€14.20, £12.60).

“A global recession isn’t the time for a big fireworks display, but we want everyone to be able to visit,” says Antonis Samaras, culture minister.

Yet in spite of the cuts, the gala opening still includes an official dinner at the museum for visiting heads of state and government, worldwide television coverage and a high-tech show in the sculpture galleries.

The government has not made public the extent of cost overruns on the €130m museum, an austere glass and concrete block designed by Bernard Tschumi, a Swiss architect, and Michalis Photiadis, his Greek associate. Its construction took almost 10 years as Byzantine-era ruins found on the site had to be excavated and the ground floor redesigned.

Mr Samaras said Greece would not make a request during the festivities for the Elgin marbles to be returned, although Costas Karamanlis, the prime minister, has said its completion would mark “the time for the marbles to come home”.

About 40 per cent of the 160m-long frieze from the Parthenon, removed in the early 19th century by Lord Elgin, a British diplomat, is on show in London’s British Museum. The museum says it was legally obtained.

Greece’s own section of the frieze is displayed in the new museum’s top-floor gallery, which replicates the dimensions and orientation of the Parthenon. “Our strategy [on the Parthenon sculptures] hasn’t changed,” Mr Samaras said. “The presence of thousands of visitors to the new museum will send its own message.”

In the past three years, both Heidelberg University and the Italian government have returned fragments of sculpture taken from the Acropolis temples.

Dimitris Pandermanlis, chairman of the state-controlled company responsible for building the museum, said it could cater for 10,000 visitors a day.

potiz81

June 7th, 2009, 07:03 AM

http://www.enet.gr/resources/2009-06/16-17-4-thumb-large.jpg

http://www.enet.gr/resources/2009-06/12-13f18-thumb-large.jpg

http://www.enet.gr/resources/2009-06/16-17-8-thumb-large.jpg

http://www.enet.gr/resources/2009-06/16-17-3-thumb-large.jpg

http://www.enet.gr/resources/2009-06/16-17-1-thumb-large.jpg

http://photo.kathimerini.gr/kathnews/photos/05-06-09/05-06-09_1288715_11.jpg

A few days left for the big opening...can't wait!

Lariabian

June 7th, 2009, 07:05 AM

^^
It's great !!!!!

Regards.

venom6

June 7th, 2009, 03:18 PM

Well done! If i once visit Athens i wont miss this museum! I was once in Greece and only at Sarti on holiday :)

ELLIN

June 9th, 2009, 11:45 PM

9 June today.......11 days before the grand opening!!!!!!

I wished i could show you the night images of the museum...The statues are visible inside the glass from the streets around the museum..It is lightfull andglorious and the reflections of the Acropolis monuments next on the glass Parthenon roomis really makes a breathtaking overview....

Since i started this thread I have to be honest ...I never expect the New Acropolis Museum would be so beautifull...
It really presents the glorious classic art of the ancient years, the first footsptes of world and west civilazation.
It is a world museum deisgned to be not only a part of Greece but part of all the citizens of the world...
I hope the British Museum will return soon the Parthenon marbels it has to their home...To the place they have been created and to the place they should be....in piece and in peace with the rest of them...in Athens....

Congratulations to Tscumi and Fotiadis for thei job....
At 20 of June most of presidents and officials of the World will be at the opening ceremony...

"

The new Acropolis Museum will open to the public, on a strictly restricted basis, on Sunday 21 June 2009. On Sunday 21, Monday 22 and Tuesday 23 June 2009, visitors can only enter the museum with an e-ticket – a ticket pre-purchased through the Museum’s website. The Museum website at www.theacropolismuseum.gr is expected to operate from 15 June 2009.

On Sunday 21, Monday 22 and Tuesday 23 June 2009, other than e-ticketing, there will be no other tickets available for entry. No tickets will be sold at the Museum.

From Wednesday 24 June 2009, visitors will be able to gain admission to the Museum with the purchase of a ticket at the Museum, or the pre purchase of a ticket on the Museum website.

From 21 June 2009 to 31 December 2009 the cost of entry for all visitors is 1 euro.

The Museum will open 8.00 a.m. to 8.00 p.m. daily, except for Mondays."

Athens city has already the best building to keep its landmark treasures.....

I invite you all to enjoy it!!!!!

http://www.theacropolismuseum.gr/index_en.html