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Ebola October 22nd, 2007, 08:58 AM River Place II by Silverstein Properties
It will be completed in 2009 and has a price of $1 billion.
The height is unknown. Anywhere from 700 feet to 800 feet.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1637/riverplacert8fx7.jpg
The one and only updated rendering:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7075/79244085ci7.jpg
Made me realize that Silverstein Properties alone is building at least eight very tall skyscrapers in NYC at once. Don't forget 99 Church Street.
chjbolton October 22nd, 2007, 01:12 PM Where in NY will those be? Street/corner please?
Or even better! Google map circled in red!! :)
With some tea. And a cookie.
Hell, the street number will do!
Eric Offereins October 22nd, 2007, 01:12 PM Nice towers.
Lance October 22nd, 2007, 01:46 PM Just had a look on the Silverstein website... apparently the address is 600 West 42nd. From what I remember (from 2 years ago), isn't that just west of Times Square?
LLoydGeorge October 22nd, 2007, 03:30 PM Where in NY will those be? Street/corner please?...
THey're located on 42nd St. between 10th and 11th. This area has scores of projects under construction or planned and will be like an entire new city (i.e., like Canary Wharf or LaDefense or BPC in lower Manhattan).
chjbolton October 22nd, 2007, 05:10 PM ^^Thanks a lot.
Yep, that area is just turning into a CDB of its own. Wonderful!!
LLoydGeorge October 22nd, 2007, 05:13 PM ^^Thanks a lot.
Yep, that area is just turning into a CDB of its own. Wonderful!!
You're welcome. This area is contiguous to the Hudson Yards project that will be built and includes scores of new skyscrapers. Also, the city is going to build a new street, a tree lined boulvard called Hudson Blvd. between 10th and 11th Avenues from 34th street to around 28th. Here's the thread:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/hyards/hymain.shtml
chjbolton October 22nd, 2007, 05:36 PM ^^Thank you sooooo much for this link!!!
A treasure of information that is!
I'm not so surprised really, just happily shocked! I always wondered why this part of Manhattan wasn't more developped given its position and (therefore) potential. It's simply quite amazing how it seems to all come at once instead of slowly spread to the river. It demands an 'official' or 'state' will to bring it forward as a massive redeveloppement plan. Something you don't see in the US as often as you do in Europe. At least I think...
Great link LLoyd!! Cheers again!
ZZ-II October 22nd, 2007, 06:14 PM that's wonderful for the skyline of NY....2 60 storey towers :)
Dale October 22nd, 2007, 07:00 PM *yawns* Just another pair of 700 to 900 footers in NYC I didn't know about.
Momo1435 October 22nd, 2007, 08:03 PM If these towers were build anywhere else in the world we would've had a thread about it here much much earlier!
The towers look amazing, Go New York City!
LLoydGeorge October 22nd, 2007, 08:15 PM QUOTE=chjbolton;16038983]^^Thank you sooooo much for this link!!!
A treasure of information that is!
I'm not so surprised really, just happily shocked! I always wondered why this part of Manhattan wasn't more developped given its position and (therefore) potential. It's simply quite amazing how it seems to all come at once instead of slowly spread to the river. It demands an 'official' or 'state' will to bring it forward as a massive redeveloppement plan. Something you don't see in the US as often as you do in Europe. At least I think...
Great link LLoyd!! Cheers again![/QUOTE]
You're welcome. There is another practically identical twin towered project called the Rushmore which is rising 20 streets north of this. Here's the link to that one:
http://www.therushmoreriverside.com/
By the way, in response to your inquiry why this area was never developed, it's because the Hudson River waterfront was always a commercial/shipping area. Those businesses eventually moved to ports in New Jersey, and around the same time in the 1960's and thereafter, US cities experienced serious decline. Therefore, this area, which had been a manufacturing/commercial area for hundreds of years, now simply became a forlorn waste land. With NY's resurgence, however, many "lost" areas have been reclaimed. This one is about to start.
I assume that you've heard about the centerpiece of this area, the Hudson Yards. Developers recently submitted bids to buy land that sits over rail tracks depicted below. They willl build office and residential towers, along with a park over the site. Morgan Stanley, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp and Conde Naste Publishing have all expressed an interest in building new headquarters there. The developers will build platforms over the sunken tracks. Their bids were submitted last week.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2007_10_Hudson%20Yards.jpg
In anticipation of all of this, developers are rushing to the area and some interesting buildings are now under construction like this one:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1098/934659422_579fe5facb_o.jpg
Here's a recent article from the NY Observer:
It Begins: Titans Bid On Western Rail Yards
by Matthew Schuerman
Published: October 16, 2007
Tags: Real Estate, West Side Rail Yards
This article was published in the October 22, 2007, edition of The New York Observer.
If there was one thing to be learned from the bidding over the Coliseum site in the late 1990’s, it was that real estate developers needed to deliver more than money to win development sites from public agencies.
The Related Companies won that competition, even though it did not offer the most money, partly because its chairman, Stephen M. Ross, promised to put Time Warner, and several hundred jobs, in anything it built at Columbus Circle.
The secret has gotten around. The three teams that appear to have the strongest of the five bids to develop 26 acres in the West 30’s are the ones that recruited tenants for the site, according to a source familiar with the proposals that came in Oct. 11. So far, no details have emerged of how much money the developers offered the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, the owner of the property, or of just how firm those tenancy commitments are.
Mr. Ross is one of the three: He convinced News Corp. to move its headquarters from the canyons of Sixth Avenue to a wild and unsettled area on the far West Side. The agreement was first reported Monday on The Observer’s Web site. Related has also partnered with Goldman Sachs to finance the 12-million-square-foot project.
Meanwhile, a joint venture between the Durst Organization and Vornado Realty Trust has come up with its own ingenious strategy. It’s willing to take one of Durst’s current tenants—Condé Nast Publications—from a building in Times Square and build a new headquarters for it to the south and west. Presumably, now that Times Square is an attractive location for white-collar firms, it will be easy to fill the space Condé Nast vacates.
And Tishman Speyer has formed a joint venture with Morgan Stanley. The New York Times has reported that the investment bank will finance the development and also occupy a skyscraper on the eastern end of the site, close to 10th Avenue.
These three teams include some of the biggest titans in New York real estate.
Related is still glowing in the civic and financial success of the Time Warner Center. The Durst-Vornado combination represents a marriage of an old-fashioned New York real estate dynasty and a deeply capitalized publicly traded real estate investment trust. And Tishman Speyer is the developer du jour, thanks to its handy $5.4 billion acquisition of Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village last year.
A fourth bidder, Brookfield Properties, also made a strong bid but one without a tenant in hand, according to the source; Extell Development Co. joined the fray but is relatively inexperienced in large mixed-use projects of this sort.
In an interview with The Observer in July, Deputy Mayor Daniel Doctoroff said that having tenants would likely help the West Side bidders as it did for the Time Warner Center.
“They had a complete package, so we’d like to see something similar here, for a bidder to come forth with real tenants to occupy it, who can occupy as soon as it is built,” Mr. Doctoroff said.
A commercial tenant is attractive to city officials because it provides an employment base that was a major justification for rezoning Hudson Yards, where the West Side rail yards are located, in 2005. A tenant will also help make the massive undertaking financially attractive to banks to finance.
The city will play less of a role in determining what happens with the West Side rail yards than it did with the Coliseum site, however. The city had veto power over that deal, but this time it has two votes on a panel that will select the winner. The M.T.A. has not said how large the panel will be, but the agency will have the majority of seats.
What’s more, the two parties have somewhat competing interests: The M.T.A. wants to maximize the revenue it receives (it wants to plug a billion-dollar hole in its capital plan); the city, meanwhile, has leaned in favor of open space, an amenable design and preserving the High Line, the abandoned elevated freight railroad that winds its way through the site.
Adding to the mix is the decision by the M.T.A. to eventually show the proposals to the public, as the agency did with the Coliseum bids. State Senator Tom Duane, who represents the area, said that he will be meeting with the M.T.A. in the next couple of weeks to determine the how and when. The entire selection process will likely run into early next year.
“I have great faith in the community around the rail yards, and that their involvement won’t make it more complicated than it is,” he said. “Remember, the West Side of Manhattan is used to large-scale development projects. It is a pretty sophisticated group of neighbors and activists.”
With additional reporting by John Koblin.
http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/article/files/Schuerman-WestSideRailyards.jpg
Here's another view of the area. Also, there had been plans to enlarge NY's convention center (shown on the left), but they proved to be too costly. Therefore, it is now believed that a new center will be built in Long Island City Queens (which is another "new city" in a former industrial area just across the East River from Manhattan), and this huge space likely will be replaced with more towers.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1024/1233563063_c36378306a_b.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/86781190/original.jpg
LLoydGeorge October 22nd, 2007, 08:39 PM Here's another article regarding a huge skyscraper that will rise in the area in anticipation of the Hudson Yards project.
Sherwood Announces Hudson Yards Plans
Oct 9, 2007
By: Adam Perrotta, News Writer
Sherwood Equities has revealed development plans for two parcels of land within the much-talked-about Hudson Yards section of Manhattan.
The firm will build a multi-family property on one of the sites--on 10th Ave. between 35th and 36th Streets. The project will contain 200 rental apartments housed in a 35-story tower.
The other parcel, located on the west side of 10th Ave. between 34th and 35th Streets, will house either a 2,500-room hotel or a 2.5 million-square-foot office complex, complete with parking facilities.
The Hudson Yards, a train yard located on Manhattan's Far West Side, have been the object of much speculation recently, given the rapid expansion of development throughout the borough as the real estate market continues to hum along there. As one of the few remaining large tracts available for new projects, the area is seen as one of the most valuable and noteworthy sites in the city.
The area will no doubt further benefit from the upgrading of nearby Penn Station, the Farley Post Office and Madison Square Garden, as well as the extension of the number 7 subway line into the area. In 2005, the city rezoned the area, allowing for expanded commercial development.
"Hudson Yards is the hottest development area in New York City," noted Sherwood CEO Jeffrey Katz, in a release today. Katz's firm has owned each of the parcels for more than 15 years. "Even back then, we believed that the Hudson Yards had great potential," he said. "It's exciting to finally proceed with the development of these properties, knowing that whatever paths we take, we can expect textbook cases of high return on investment."
Katz said that both the hotel and the office options for the 34th St. site had distinct advantages. He noted that the hotel would benefit from the large number of rooms it could contain, as well as its proximity to the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center. An office, meanwhile, could take advantage of from the overall development of the area and the increasing number of companies that would likely want to establish a footprint in the area.
Indeed, just yesterday, Conde Nast Publications announced its intention to move at least a portion of its offices to the Hudson Yards sometime in the future.
Sherwood currently owns several Manhattan properties, including 1 and 2 Times Square, 1600 Broadway, The Coronado and The Saratoga.
potipoti October 22nd, 2007, 08:43 PM nice project for the best city :)
Ebola October 22nd, 2007, 08:44 PM You think this is a supertall?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1098/934659422_579fe5facb_o.jpg
Also, there are plans for a 90-story hotel supertall for the Javits Center. I think it may be the tallest hotel in the world.
Lots of stuff happening in NY.
LLoydGeorge October 22nd, 2007, 08:45 PM You think this is a supertall?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1098/934659422_579fe5facb_o.jpg
Also, there are plans for a 90-story hotel supertall for the Javits Center. I think it may be the tallest hotel in the world.
This building will be 790 feet.
Ebola October 22nd, 2007, 08:49 PM Nice. When do you think construction will start?
What about 34th & 10th?
MDguy October 22nd, 2007, 11:08 PM Looks Great! More density :righton:
Ebola October 23rd, 2007, 12:28 AM The gap is starting to close. No other skyline in the world will compare come 6 years (like any does currently :lol:).
Phobos October 23rd, 2007, 03:44 AM It's hard to see it because of the small render,but overall seems to be a good project.I hope they use a glassy cladding.
chjbolton October 23rd, 2007, 11:06 PM Lloyd, once again, concerning NY's infos: you rule. A true lecture that above post was.
I was aware of most of the project but I must admit I was a bit confused as to where was each one of them.
If you need to know stuff about La Défense... Wait. No... I'm not even THAT much on the dot with LD either... :ohno:
Cheers amigo
LLoydGeorge October 23rd, 2007, 11:16 PM Lloyd, once again, concerning NY's infos: you rule. A true lecture that above post was.
I was aware of most of the project but I must admit I was a bit confused as to where was each one of them.
If you need to know stuff about La Défense... Wait. No... I'm not even THAT much on the dot with LD either... :ohno:
Cheers amigo
Hi, mate.
My pleasure. I see that you have connections to three of my ten favorite cities in the world (Lon, Paris and Munich). Where do you live?
LLoydGeorge October 24th, 2007, 03:14 PM Rendering from the 23 Oct. 2007 NY Post:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10242007/photos/biz040.jpg
ElVoltageDR October 24th, 2007, 04:31 PM Sweet rendering.
LLoydGeorge October 24th, 2007, 06:09 PM The small yellow brick building shown across the street from this tower has been replaced by a new 50 story tower called the Atelier, and the parking lot seen to the right is now a construction site for another 50+ story tower.
Dale October 24th, 2007, 06:41 PM Rendering from the 23 Oct. 2007 NY Post:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10242007/photos/biz040.jpg
I'm guessing 700'.
Eric Offereins October 26th, 2007, 11:56 PM Sweet. :cool:
romanamerican October 27th, 2007, 02:23 AM great addition to the skyline. simple but elegant.
Does anybody have pics of the construction site? (or also just the area in general...)
LLoydGeorge October 27th, 2007, 05:55 AM great addition to the skyline. simple but elegant.
Does anybody have pics of the construction site? (or also just the area in general...)
It's rising on the lot located just behind the orange-ish brick building in the middle of this photo.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9657/nytimes1dm2.jpg
Also, to give you more perspective, the south corner of the orange-ish brick building shown above is visible in the far left corner of the following photo:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1024/1233563063_c36378306a_b.jpg
HT October 27th, 2007, 02:09 PM Hmmm I think you ment in the far LEFT corner not the right. Because otherwise we would not be able to see it in the first pic.
LLoydGeorge October 27th, 2007, 02:30 PM Hmmm I think you ment in the far LEFT corner not the right. Because otherwise we would not be able to see it in the first pic.
That's correct.
Alweron October 27th, 2007, 06:46 PM THey're located on 42nd St. between 10th and 11th. This area has scores of projects under construction or planned and will be like an entire new city (i.e., like Canary Wharf or LaDefense or BPC in lower Manhattan).
Mmmm... Funny how the streets are named there. In Finland each and every one of the streets are named separately, with a real name. To me an address like that tells absolutely nothing. Only if the name contains a real name of some place, it's a bit more understandable. Actually, the only places I know for sure in NY, are the Central Park and Ground Zero.
Would u tell me, in which direction from the Central Park is this place and how many km:s? Is it North?
It's said, that the ground of New York is extremely expensive (as I'm sure it is). There are still dozens of small buildings for ex. in the LLoydGeorge's first pic. Remove all of them, and replace them with something much higher, and u'll get some more space.
LLoydGeorge October 27th, 2007, 07:09 PM Mmmm... Funny how the streets are named there. In Finland each and every one of the streets are named separately, with a real name.... There are still dozens of small buildings for ex. in the LLoydGeorge's first pic. Remove all of them, and replace them with something much higher, and u'll get some more space.
The part of NY that was first settled in the early 1600's has named (not numbered) streets, and they're not laid out in a grid.
As for the lowrise buildings, they're largely beautiful structures from the 1800's and early 1900's. It would be a crime to raze them.
ramvid01 October 27th, 2007, 10:45 PM To me an address like that tells absolutely nothing. Only if the name contains a real name of some place, it's a bit more understandable.
There are still dozens of small buildings for ex. in the LLoydGeorge's first pic. Remove all of them, and replace them with something much higher, and u'll get some more space.
I think trying to remember hundreds of names would be more difficult than numbers if you know in which direction you are going. As for those small buildings, removing them would be a crime like LloydGeorge said.
RandySavage October 28th, 2007, 08:09 PM Would u tell me, in which direction from the Central Park is this place and how many km:s? Is it North?
Riverplace II is near 42nd and 11th. You could probably walk to Central Park in about 18 minutes.
http://www.aaccessmaps.com/images/maps/us/ny/manhattan_midtown/manhattan_midtown.gif
Skyscrapercitizen October 28th, 2007, 10:25 PM Wow, I love this project! So cool to see this area coming up! This towers are very slender, don't see that much in NYC.
Ebola October 29th, 2007, 05:53 AM They are called the "Silver Towers," according to the article at www.wtc.com.
iLiR October 29th, 2007, 06:37 AM Awesome towers. :cheers:
romanamerican November 3rd, 2007, 06:46 AM [QUOTE=Alweron;16141047]Mmmm... Funny how the streets are named there. In Finland each and every one of the streets are named separately, with a real name. To me an address like that tells absolutely nothing. Only if the name contains a real name of some place, it's a bit more understandable. Actually, the only places I know for sure in NY, are the Central Park and Ground Zero.[QUOTE]
Well, it might not tell you anything, but by jut saing the number of the street, you already know in which area and direction of the city it is, since they are all in order. Something a "real" name can't tell you. Therefore, I think this kind of mapping "tells" me more than a simple name (unless it is a famous name, like Napoleon Avenue, but that only tells me about the person, something I don't care about while looking for an address).
LLyodGeorge
thank you very much for the explanation, it was illuminating. :)
Ebola November 23rd, 2007, 09:04 AM We have something rising:
(NYguy):
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8413/largeca3as00ald1.jpg
ames January 1st, 2008, 04:09 PM what is it.
ZZ-II January 1st, 2008, 06:20 PM what do you mean??
ZZ-II January 7th, 2008, 10:58 PM January 6th by NYguy:
JANUARY 6, 2008
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/91354581/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/91354583/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/91354584/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/91354585/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/91354586/large.jpg
Skyscrapercitizen January 8th, 2008, 09:57 PM Wow didn't know they were so far, thanks for the update!
Eric Offereins January 9th, 2008, 11:31 PM still no definitive height known yet?
Alweron January 10th, 2008, 05:42 PM Thanks for the info. Sure I understand it just wouldn't work to give each street a "real" name. That's true it's hard to know where some named street is located, but I think it's nicer this way. Remember, that in Helsinki the streets aren't drawn like in New York. The streets aren't built the grid -kind of way.
I believe someone put the rendering of this twin into the other NYC thread. This is great news and the design is much better with another identical tower next to it.
xXFallenXx January 10th, 2008, 05:56 PM very nice New York.
Milllos January 10th, 2008, 10:24 PM 199 m
eddie88 January 10th, 2008, 11:41 PM cant wait to watch this grow
ZZ-II January 11th, 2008, 03:56 PM 199 m
where did you get this height?
Milllos January 11th, 2008, 06:29 PM http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=silvertowers1-newyorkcity-ny-usa
On Emporis, they called this "Silver towers". 199 m, 58 f
philvia February 23rd, 2008, 07:09 AM http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/2272431384_0d1cf26f78_o.jpg
Skyscrapercitizen February 23rd, 2008, 04:17 PM Wow seems to be fast, 10 more floors compared to the other update 1,5 month old.
What's the construction site on the other side of the road?
ZZ-II February 24th, 2008, 12:50 AM 10 floors in 1,5 months? that's very fast for a NYC tower
ElVoltageDR March 31st, 2008, 03:19 AM I was close to the site today so I took a pic:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/NYOS87/106_0463.jpg
romanamerican March 31st, 2008, 04:06 AM wow, these two towers are going on great, lovely!
There is no height on the title. Does anybody know? And, does anybody know completion date? couldn't find it. Thank you for whoever will be able to answer me.
Eric Offereins March 31st, 2008, 01:21 PM ^^
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=silvertowers1-newyorkcity-ny-usa
On Emporis, they called this "Silver towers". 199 m, 58 f
Marco Polo March 31st, 2008, 02:57 PM Slowly getting there!!!
ZZ-II March 31st, 2008, 07:48 PM according to SSP they're on floor 25-28 now :)
MDguy April 1st, 2008, 12:15 AM slowly getting there? I feel like this tower is going light speed!
LeMoN-SK April 1st, 2008, 01:50 AM ^^Agree, they are definitely really fast on this one. I counted 11 new floors in 5 weeks!!! That is like a floor every 3 days!
:banana:
romanamerican April 1st, 2008, 03:10 AM ^^
Thank you:)
btw, a few other renders..
http://www.pbase.com/image/90055371.jpg
and an older version?
http://www.pbase.com/image/72639117.jpg
Ebola April 1st, 2008, 05:58 AM No, I'm 90% sure that's some other set of twin towers that was build or is u/c or approved now.
romanamerican April 1st, 2008, 08:56 AM No, I'm 90% sure that's some other set of twin towers that was build or is u/c or approved now.
Thank you for correcting me. Have you any idea what the project might be?
RandySavage April 1st, 2008, 09:12 AM It's called The Rushmore and is located about 20 blocks north of Silver Towers (River Place II).
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2175/2303600324_c3e2cd5ee6_b.jpg
credit:www.flickr.com/photos/yoshie231/
ZZ-II April 1st, 2008, 07:38 PM The Rushmore looks also very good :)
romanamerican April 2nd, 2008, 12:35 AM It's called The Rushmore and is located about 20 blocks north of Silver Towers (River Place II).
Wow, it's amazing how many unheard towers are going up...
thanks for the beautiful picture.
phillybud April 2nd, 2008, 07:16 AM Very attractive! These latter-day "twin towers" have a masculine 'New York' feel about them. I say: "thumbs-up!"
mclancer April 2nd, 2008, 10:37 AM Be proud New York... nice addition.
In almost any other city,
these towers would be among the tallest.
In New York, ho hum, only 199m?
Just south of this, the development in the next few years, will make
ground zero look like a small construction project....
wow...
Ebola April 2nd, 2008, 10:56 AM I wouldn't trust the site that said 199m/58fl since they are usually wrong with newer information, while unmatched with 4+ year old info. I think you have to pay to get the best service. The last thing I heard from a credible news source (NY Post or something) 6 to 9 months ago mentioned 60+ (61 or 63) floors, but it's still possible I can be confusing it with another midtown tower. It wasn't an even number and was in the lower 60s. But it's not a big deal now. Maybe I'll try to count floors on the newest rendering.
By the way, there seems to be about four or five or six twin towers in the city over 100m, and you can add another two to four pairs by 2020. By twin towers, I mean stuff like in this thread, not towers that look alike but one is smaller or has a different shape.
HD April 2nd, 2008, 11:38 AM the height to the top floor is 184m and to the tip 199m - and what source is more credible than the developer...
Ebola April 3rd, 2008, 03:47 AM ...
The developer, Silverstein Properties, never said that. In fact, I just checked their site, and there's no info.
Emporis said that, and they are usually worng with new projects that have been around for long and have changed like this one.
Until it's posted on SP's site or someone from Silverstein Properties says it, it's likely off. I get the feeling that it may be slightly higher than we're expecting (like with all SP projects) since SP is building almost ALL of Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers. Since 2003, I don't think they've developed a skyscraper under 740 feet tall, and they are in charge of many large skyscrapers, mostly in LM. We should really be very greatful for Silverstein Properties.
Vito Corleone April 3rd, 2008, 06:55 AM The correct height for both towers is 199.13 m. This is from an e-mail I received from Kondylis & Partners. So blame them not Emporis, if you still think the height is wrong.
lena5538 April 3rd, 2008, 11:33 AM well there are much better building in new york!
Vito Corleone April 3rd, 2008, 04:44 PM So true!
philvia April 7th, 2008, 09:09 AM the date says February 29, but i can't help to think that is wrong
Flickr
http://flickr.com/photos/jerseyjj/2393929473/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2140/2393929473_ec1ab1aeba_b.jpg
about 25 floors then...these towers are so fast!
ZZ-II April 7th, 2008, 11:09 PM can't wait until they're finished, they'll have a nice impact in the skyline :)
HT April 8th, 2008, 11:42 AM little question : What is the building going up on the far right side in that picture ?
krull April 8th, 2008, 11:38 PM little question : What is the building going up on the far right side in that picture ?
It is part of this 3-building development that is already under construction. The little building you question in the photo above is the small 25-floor building you see in the renderings. The next buildings soon to go up will be 34 and 43 floors.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2161/w37rockroseae9.jpg
nygirl April 9th, 2008, 01:17 AM Woah I never knew about those up until now.
ZZ-II April 9th, 2008, 08:58 PM ^^, me too :)...and i know much projects in NY
ZZ-II April 15th, 2008, 11:30 PM April 12th by NYguy:
APRIL 12, 2008
Silverstein's towers continue to rise...
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95616659/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95670078/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95670055/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95670081/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95670084/large.jpg
Eric Offereins April 16th, 2008, 09:11 AM Amazing how fast they go up. :)
ames April 16th, 2008, 03:46 PM realy fast.
Dallasbrink April 16th, 2008, 10:26 PM cool, the cites new twins
Sbz2ifc April 17th, 2008, 01:07 AM ^^ Actually Manhattan has lots of twins (old & new).
nygirl April 17th, 2008, 06:09 AM San Remo, El Dorado, Time Warner and now this is the newest.
Sbz2ifc April 17th, 2008, 01:13 PM ...The Majestic, The Century, 100 Riverside Blvd. ...and The Rushmore (mentioned on the previous page) which is also u/c right now.
In a way I like Rushmore better than River Place II. Both look good, but I guess I like the fact that Rushmore is a modern version of San Remo.
Skyscrapercitizen April 17th, 2008, 10:34 PM The area is starting to become dense with this project. Up to now it was an area with residentials popping up here and there, from now on it will become a dense neighbourhood, with all amanities with it. And it's just the beginning.
ZZ-II April 17th, 2008, 10:47 PM yes, quite much towers are planned or UC in this area
MDguy April 19th, 2008, 03:10 AM I beleive this is it, is it?
photo from flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2423378391_abf76318b6_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/16648756@N00/2423378391/
ElVoltageDR April 22nd, 2008, 01:14 AM Yeah that's it. A couple of pics I took today
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/NYOS87/106_0494.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/NYOS87/106_0501.jpg
hoosier April 22nd, 2008, 03:20 AM The whole west side of Midtown is sprouting up. Atelier was a great pioneer, and River Place II will only spur more high-rises in the area.
philvia April 22nd, 2008, 06:37 AM i love the atelier ^^ :)
ZZ-II April 22nd, 2008, 08:48 PM many thx ELvoltageDR, fantastic shots
Woodstock88 April 22nd, 2008, 09:45 PM cool!~
MDguy May 17th, 2008, 08:13 PM from flickr, they can be seen to the far right, well only one of them though
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2024/2494538040_8c140de2b7_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/2494538040/
romanamerican May 17th, 2008, 08:24 PM amazing shot....amazing skyline... :)
MDguy May 28th, 2008, 01:25 AM from flickr recently
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2148/2528880302_786ec01d2b_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/jag9889/2528880302/
Marco Polo May 28th, 2008, 07:08 AM Thanks!!
xXFallenXx May 28th, 2008, 07:38 AM Looking good. :okay:
I wanna see some more cladding.
ZZ-II May 30th, 2008, 07:39 PM Recent shot from Jim in Times Square:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2527984025_e5d41741e3_b.jpg
Skyscrapercitizen May 30th, 2008, 10:03 PM This has huge impact on the skyline from Weehawken!
ZZ-II May 31st, 2008, 12:08 AM yes, and the area arround times tower and the river place is getting very dense, lots of towers are UC there right now
Ni3lS May 31st, 2008, 12:27 AM Nice pic. Nice addition to skyline of NY. 'good fillers' ;)
Buyckske Ruben May 31st, 2008, 12:31 AM Extremely fast!!:nuts: Great for N.Y they needed it very hard! Skyline is growing more end more surtenly when the WTC site is done (couple of years).
SkyscraperFreak92 May 31st, 2008, 03:23 PM how tall is the core now...i count ca 48 floors, but how tall is each floor ?
Buyckske Ruben June 7th, 2008, 03:59 PM http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC00004.jpg
philvia June 7th, 2008, 08:28 PM just curious, but when they have the entire space closed off as with the orange tarp... what are they doing? its obviously something interior... do they start drywall so early?
Skyscrapercitizen June 7th, 2008, 10:53 PM ^^
I think it's simply to keep the wind out.
ElVoltageDR June 7th, 2008, 11:07 PM Yeah, it's more for safety than anything else I think.
Ebola June 12th, 2008, 08:11 AM On speed.
Eric Offereins June 12th, 2008, 11:52 PM Amazing, how fast these go up. :)
nykid17 June 13th, 2008, 12:02 AM From 42nd and 8th Ave, right next to 11 Times Square
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/2568606163_bbb5fa0dbd_b.jpg
MDguy June 26th, 2008, 07:07 PM from the 24th
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/2613075678_e0f7237bb8_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/30201239@N00/2613075678/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2250/2610250459_ba41b3ab69_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/erika_herzog/2610250459/
Pulse June 26th, 2008, 10:07 PM The update. Pictures taken from several places like Circle Line Pier, Hudson River, ESB deck, 12th Av and 34th Street. Enjoy :)
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0511.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0522.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0529.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0536.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0544.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0597.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0679.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0681.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0710.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0829.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0848.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0867.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF0886.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF2050.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF2051.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u14/Pulse_07/New%20York%202008/DSCF2056.jpg
Marco Polo June 27th, 2008, 08:03 AM Thanks for a great update!!!
Buyckske Ruben June 27th, 2008, 11:52 AM Great addition to the skyline, great impact that will change the city.
Cassina009 June 27th, 2008, 01:55 PM Its interesting that they decided on two towers again - what happened to the Libeskind proposal?
MDguy July 16th, 2008, 05:38 AM Here's a great shot form pmarella at flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/2670047353_9e7d138275_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/2670047353/
Rutger1991 July 16th, 2008, 11:37 AM Nice photo, these buildings really fit in nicely in the New York skyline!!!:banana:^^
Jim856796 July 19th, 2008, 01:30 PM The River Place II Towers are named Silver Towers I and II by Emporis. They have 58 floors and stand at a height of 200 metres. I'm also beginning to think that the two towers are skinnier than the existing River Place building.
ames July 19th, 2008, 11:36 PM perfect towers for new york skyline.
Buyckske Ruben July 20th, 2008, 01:23 PM Here's a great shot form pmarella at flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/2670047353_9e7d138275_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/2670047353/
^^^^
Good job :okay:
July 14, 2008
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2666651155_7ed8e73b20_b.jpg
pics from your link.
LeMoN-SK July 20th, 2008, 01:45 PM I think the first tower is close to T/O, right?
ZZ-II July 20th, 2008, 06:10 PM yes, not much to go :)
Eric Offereins July 20th, 2008, 09:50 PM The cladding is looking good too. :)
Elktest July 21st, 2008, 09:19 PM http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twindr1.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twin1qt8.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twin2ku3.jpg
Elktest July 21st, 2008, 09:27 PM http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2903/twin2ku3.jpg
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4452/twin1sp3.jpg
Buyckske Ruben July 22nd, 2008, 02:37 PM Good job mate!:) :cheers:
Render of the future skyline River Place Towers on the left.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8133/2000975181326604311rsrz3.jpg
LeMoN-SK July 22nd, 2008, 03:08 PM ^^You sure about that? Looks like Time Warner Center to me. River Place Twin Towers should be in front of NY Times Tower from this angle... ;)
Time Warner Center:
http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/original/ccshops.jpg
fish July 23rd, 2008, 04:51 AM It's been a while since I drove into the city (cost of gas), but I do recall watching these towers rise (from a distance).
I never bothered to snap any photos of them, but now I am glad to see how substantial they will be to the NY skyline! http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/mr-fish/Miscellaneous/BigSmile.gif
ZZ-II July 27th, 2008, 04:29 PM by kevin Borland, Flickr:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2681880083_c0f677ff1b_b.jpg
chjbolton July 28th, 2008, 05:48 AM What did I tell you about those 20.000 posts ZZ?!?!?!!!
I was off by only a week! :lol:
30.000 for New Years Eve then!
fish August 10th, 2008, 08:35 AM Render of the future skyline River Place Towers on the left.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8133/2000975181326604311rsrz3.jpg
Now that's what I call a render! :okay:
Buyckske Ruben August 10th, 2008, 01:13 PM ^^You sure about that? Looks like Time Warner Center to me. River Place Twin Towers should be in front of NY Times Tower from this angle... ;)
Time Warner Center:
http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/original/ccshops.jpg
Idd,:) correct was confused.
End they have to added to i mean river place.
MDguy August 11th, 2008, 02:02 AM Here's an awesome shot from flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2748124911_1ed6e29f82_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pnoyrckstar/2748124911/
HD August 11th, 2008, 02:14 AM I can't believe how fast they went up :shocked:
LookingUpToTheSky August 11th, 2008, 02:20 AM Here's an awesome shot from flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2748124911_1ed6e29f82_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pnoyrckstar/2748124911/
Is that Rotterdam:cheers:? Haha no I'm kidding. It's an amazing picture! Very well done!
fish August 11th, 2008, 08:38 AM Hopefully, it appears like it will be done this year! :okay:
Marco Polo August 11th, 2008, 01:56 PM Almost there!! Looks nice.
krull August 14th, 2008, 04:33 PM by wyliepoon (http://flickr.com/photos/wyliepoon/2761309909/sizes/l/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2761309909_2b4b52216f_b.jpg
by wyliepoon (http://flickr.com/photos/wyliepoon/2762159258/sizes/l/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2762159258_316ef1263c_b.jpg
Buyckske Ruben August 14th, 2008, 05:39 PM O MY GOD
SIMPLY stunning!!!
^^^^
Nice updates everyone! :nuts:
:cheers: good work :banana:.
fish August 14th, 2008, 06:30 PM ^^
^^
^^ That second photo really illustrates the impact these towers will have on the skyline!
Good job, Krull! :okay:
Middle-Island August 14th, 2008, 11:28 PM They're much better than the renderings! They are a bit more rounded-off or bowed out than the render, which is more square. Looks great on the river.
cruzin4u August 15th, 2008, 02:02 AM The last picture has a very "Wintery" feel to it. GG wyliepoon!
Gonzalo90uy August 15th, 2008, 02:46 AM Cute!
SouthFloridaBoy August 15th, 2008, 04:45 AM Perfict Location!! Waterwat & city views, away from the city, traffic
LAYZIEDOGG August 16th, 2008, 08:53 PM what a great view you will have from the topfloors!
and a great addition to the skyline of NY. It keeps getting better and better.
romanamerican September 1st, 2008, 04:32 AM picture made by scumonkey at wirednewyork:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/benz.jpg
btw, coming up nicely, good job :-)
Gordon Freeman September 1st, 2008, 05:23 AM very nice looking towers
Rutger1991 September 1st, 2008, 07:35 PM I like really like these skinny towers!! ^^
:cheers:
Skyscrapercitizen September 1st, 2008, 11:32 PM I LOVE it!
ZZ-II September 1st, 2008, 11:37 PM they're finally topped out according to SSP :cheers:
MDguy September 2nd, 2008, 12:37 AM Looks T/O to me!! Heres another photo from flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2819268366_b684b1749c_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/a_tibetan/2819268366/
fish September 2nd, 2008, 02:24 AM ^^ Those twin towers really have a positive impact on the skyline.
Midtown is really developing well.
Now let's hope that the #7 extension moves forward - we really need this to compliment further development.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/mr-fish/Miscellaneous/Cool.gif
Ni3lS September 2nd, 2008, 05:08 PM ^^ agree with that. great impact on skyline.. Love it :)
nygirl September 2nd, 2008, 07:28 PM Didn't know they would ever block out the NYTT from that angle.
gusgazman September 2nd, 2008, 07:41 PM beautiful slim towers!
Mikey September 2nd, 2008, 08:56 PM does no one know the exact height... as its not in the title :? they look great and I ve never noticed them before they must have shot up pretty quick :)
Rizzato September 2nd, 2008, 09:48 PM ^^ I've seen it listed as 653 feet 199 m
MDguy September 15th, 2008, 12:31 AM Look at the view!
http://flickr.com/photos/30269299@N03/sets/72157607273412476/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2851466815_1e9af65c32_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2852305492_165463c5ae_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/2852306154_0ed9c72ac1_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2852304772_51e5f3d33d_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2851470403_2c68c623fa_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2851469069_c7d0649367_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2851468549_6653434f99_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3282/2852298184_537c5f7efa_b.jpg
Skyscrapercitizen September 15th, 2008, 12:50 AM What a shitty view, you better have a house with a garden with a view on another house with a garden... ;)
Basincreek September 15th, 2008, 03:26 AM Too bad about that construction worker death.
Still, this project turned out wonderful. Whoever gets a place in these is really lucky.
MDguy September 15th, 2008, 03:31 AM There was a death? article?
fish September 15th, 2008, 04:10 AM Nice views!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/mr-fish/Miscellaneous/Cool.gif
koolkid September 15th, 2008, 04:20 AM You said it. NYtimes building is looking fierce...
These twin towers aren't bad themselve...
Marco Polo September 15th, 2008, 05:49 AM Nice to be so much above the city!!!
Yet, the view of the "near neighbourhood" is somewhat un-beautiful... But in time that might change.
eddie88 September 15th, 2008, 06:12 PM ^^ the roof deck from Chelsea Stratus is the best view in Manhattan! you can see the whole city, all the way to the statue of liberty!
Buyckske Ruben September 22nd, 2008, 06:22 PM @ flickr Uploaded on September 20, 2008
by skylove
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.jpeg
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
hoosier September 22nd, 2008, 09:58 PM Wow, those pictures are amazing!! You get a completely new view of Manhattan from these buildings.
You can see the smoldering remains of Lehman Brothers AND Bear Sterns!!:lol:
Skyscrapers 2009 September 23rd, 2008, 01:48 AM ^^And possibly Goldman Sachs if things go even worse.
MDguy September 24th, 2008, 03:32 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2883866406_53dbb37248_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/2883866406/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2881268102_91808f2efe_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/2881268102/in/photostream/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2880267276_13703e5004_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/2880267276/in/photostream/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2883495982_0856ed9332.jpg?v=0
http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/2883495982/
webeagle12 September 24th, 2008, 09:08 AM last shot = drop dead gorgeous
Rutger1991 September 25th, 2008, 12:04 AM Sweet pictures MDguy!!! ^^
:cheers:
Buyckske Ruben September 25th, 2008, 04:29 PM :eek2::eek2::eek2:
Amazing twins!
Amazing SKYLINE!
:master:
krolm October 4th, 2008, 10:24 AM here's a few shots from my building's roof. it's about 15 blocks away from these twins. warning: i do not possess the camera, nor the skill of the photographer who posted pictures earlier on this page. however, my crappy shots might offer you a new perspective. :lol:
note: these were taken about a week and a half ago
http://illiteratedaoc.googlepages.com/607.JPG
http://illiteratedaoc.googlepages.com/609.JPG
ZZ-II October 4th, 2008, 12:09 PM Welcome to SSC Krolm, great shots :)
Eric Offereins October 4th, 2008, 04:49 PM Absolutely amazing pictures, MDguy. :master:
It looks like they have topped out. :cheers:
jwalas October 16th, 2008, 01:12 AM First tower cladding almost complete.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/P1000067.jpg?t=1224106601
MDguy October 30th, 2008, 03:16 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2985299376_02018522db_b.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/mactunes/2985299376/
SlinkyNY October 30th, 2008, 04:56 AM This whole area will be developed into luxury residential projects in prep for the Hudson Yards mega-project. Nice to see all these shiny blue glass towers poking out of the skyline now. The one thing NYC needs is a large luxurious plaza or square that the new Hudson Yards plan is proposing.
phillybud November 21st, 2008, 10:50 PM A fine pair of elegant and understated towers! The photos were beautiful. Please, let's have an up-date! :)
Assemblage23 November 22nd, 2008, 09:04 AM Love them.
Twin Towers suit New York perfectly.
krull November 24th, 2008, 07:56 AM November 21, 2008:
http://www.pbase.com/image/106298888.jpg
WorldCity November 24th, 2008, 11:59 PM I put this nice construction pic from MDguy on my background of my computer!!
very nice!:cheers:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2881268102_91808f2efe_o.jpg
ZZ-II November 25th, 2008, 04:46 PM much to small to be a desktop-background on my computer :D
nonetheless it is an awesome shot :)
ZZ-II January 17th, 2009, 10:48 PM posted on SSP:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/3107851524_2eb245e3d4_b.jpg
HD January 18th, 2009, 01:53 AM these towers caught my eye, when I saw a video of the airbus watering in the hudson. what an awesome pair ...
jacobchan January 18th, 2009, 09:41 AM river place 3 84 floos 319m
jwalas January 24th, 2009, 02:29 AM http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/Construction/P1010609.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/Construction/P1010608.jpg
HT January 24th, 2009, 02:34 AM Dam those River Twins look more than good !
But hmm whats that building U/C on the left in the first picture ??
semajdnob700 January 24th, 2009, 03:55 PM It's a rental tower on 11th Avenue in the 30's that will be about 30 stories tall.
Eric Offereins January 24th, 2009, 04:25 PM They look a lot taller because of the location and their slenderness.
LeMoN-SK January 24th, 2009, 06:45 PM Well, they are topped out for a while now and I think that soon they will be externally fully completed... Nice to see that. Anyone got info about the status of interior works?
semajdnob700 January 24th, 2009, 08:26 PM They look a lot taller because of the location and their slenderness.
They're still fairly tall in their own right. I believe that they're about the height of Swiss Re in London.
romanamerican January 25th, 2009, 01:08 AM from ZippyTheChimp at WiredNewYork:
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2167/riverplace201cqm8.jpg
Ni3lS January 25th, 2009, 01:13 AM awesome pic. these towers look excellent, and fit well in the skyline :)
giovani kun January 25th, 2009, 09:45 AM T/O and almost completed :)
sbstn January 25th, 2009, 08:56 PM i saw these towers on the way out of NYC the last time i was there.. very nice..
dnobsemajdnob February 5th, 2009, 02:40 PM Posted on WNY by Tectonic.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/3253813311_38e53073c2_b.jp
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/3253813311_38e53073c2_b.jp
jwalas February 9th, 2009, 02:50 AM http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/Construction/P1030393.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/Construction/P1030654.jpg
jwalas May 14th, 2009, 05:21 AM http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/Construction/P1070199.jpg
Eric Offereins May 15th, 2009, 12:13 AM ^^ great shot. These towers turned out really well. :)
Nout May 15th, 2009, 12:24 AM I think these towers are ment to be together. Only one of them should be beautyful but together they are just... perfect :).
Buyckske Ruben May 17th, 2009, 01:03 PM http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/jwalas/Construction/P1030393.jpg
What is the tower on the right?
jwalas May 18th, 2009, 11:57 PM ^^ Levine Builders rental tower.http://levinebuilders.broadviewnet.net/projects/current/316eleventh.shtml
http://levinebuilders.broadviewnet.net/projects/current/img/316eleventh.jpg
JohnFlint1985 June 15th, 2009, 06:32 AM I got a pretty good view on the towers and the area from across the river a week ago. This area is quickly becoming one of the most expensive in the whole city. Super luxury Atelier Tower just across the 42 street from the future River Place.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3337/3601220325_fec48669c4_b.jpg
dnobsemajdnob June 15th, 2009, 06:59 AM I've read that the Chinese consulate one day might be replaced with a magnificent skyscraper as a sign of China's power in the economic and social capital of the US.
JohnFlint1985 June 15th, 2009, 07:17 AM I've read that the Chinese consulate one day might be replaced with a magnificent skyscraper as a sign of China's power in the economic and social capital of the US.
Honestly - I am really skeptical about the prospects of this idea. Though Chinese consulate looks as ugly old day, once Chinese will grasp how many regulations they have to go through before they build anything they will loose a lot of sleep. Also don't forget - our dear NIMBYs with almost unlimited power which doesn't exist in Communist China where no one has a voice - I doubt they will have a desire to proceed with this idea. :)
dnobsemajdnob June 15th, 2009, 01:53 PM They can build at least 35,000 sq m (about 375,000 sq ft. for the Yanks) as of right. That's easily an 80 story, thin tower.
This consulate pre-dates China's rise as a superpower, and therefore, I believe that the Chinese would like to have a symbol of their power which would be in a prominent space. Oddly enough, it's also across the street from the Intrepid which is an homage to US military might.
The UPS building just north of the consolate also will be gone in the next 10 to 15 years. That site is enormous and must contain enough rights to build two 100+strory towers.
SkyBridge June 17th, 2009, 11:03 AM 35.000 sq m an 80 story tower?
Here we build thin towers of 45.000m with 45 stories...
romanamerican June 17th, 2009, 06:20 PM 35.000 sq m an 80 story tower?
Here we build thin towers of 45.000m with 45 stories...
that's because Rotterdam has a patent on it so nobody else in the world can build such amazing skyscrapers. Aaaaa that dutch technology......
SkyBridge June 18th, 2009, 04:58 PM ^ If you can't understand English, don't bother to reply.
Obviously you didn't get the statement, which has nothing to do with the appearance, only the volume of skyscrapers in general.
80 story towers with 35.000m2 seems a bit impossible. Would more likely be 40 stories, even if thin.
romanamerican June 18th, 2009, 11:11 PM ^ If you can't understand English, don't bother to reply.
Obviously you didn't get the statement, which has nothing to do with the appearance, only the volume of skyscrapers in general.
80 story towers with 35.000m2 seems a bit impossible. Would more likely be 40 stories, even if thin.
No, simply you were not clear with your statement (nor did it appear to have a point, but that is another aspect...). You wrote something without saying why you did in the first place (since you are not making a clear point, you should if you want to write in decent comprehensible English).
If you can't express yourself in English, don't bother to express yourself with it. You can always try with the universal language of art.... :lol:
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