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Westsidelife
October 27th, 2007, 08:55 AM
Location: Spring Street, between 4th Street and 5th Street
Function: Mixed-Use | 96 Units | 122 Hotel Rooms | 2 Floors Retail
Developer: MSGG Spring Street Realty Partners
Architect: Johnson Fain (http://www.johnsonfain.com/launch.html)
Completion: N/A

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Old Bank Hotel Proposed (http://www.downtownnews.com/articles/2007/10/29/news/news06.txt)

Gilmore Behind Plans for 24-Story Tower

by Evan George

A development team working on residential conversions in the Old Bank District is planning a new 287-foot luxury hotel and condo tower for Spring Street. The development, in the very early stages, would be the first high-end boutique hotel in the Historic Core.

Last week, the development team represented by Gilmore Associates unveiled designs for the building to a group of neighborhood stakeholders. It is imagined as a commercial anchor to the developer's two loft projects under construction, the El Dorado and the Rowan, on Spring between Fourth and Fifth streets.

Plans for the 24-story tower designed by architecture firm Johnson Fain would include 96 condominiums and 122 hotel rooms above two floors of retail and seven floors of parking encompassing 200 spaces. It would aim to create a series of open-air, exclusive areas such as a rooftop pool for hotel guests, multipurpose rooms for residents and a spacious, tree-lined courtyard for restaurant use. Ground-floor stores, it is hoped, would front a pedestrian alleyway.

"If it happens, the idea is that it will be the next generation of what the Old Bank District has become, which is this great mix of uses," developer Tom Gilmore said. He added that the renderings and plans are preliminary.

"This is for a tentative tract approval," said Gilmore, who launched the Old Bank District when he opened three apartment complexes at Fourth and Main streets, the first coming online in 2000. "It is the first step."

Though the project could be years from breaking ground, with approval required from various city departments, the development team involves heavy hitting investors who already hold financial stakes in the area.

Goodwin Gaw and New York-based investment firm Morgan Stanley comprise MSGG Spring St. Realty Partners. Gilmore Associates is acting as the consulting developer, said Suzanne Ekerling, who heads the project for Gilmore.

Gaw, the businessman behind Downtown Properties, has partnered with Gilmore on numerous projects, including the El Dorado and the Rowan. The new, still unnamed mixed-use hotel project would sit between the two loft buildings and have a connected entrance to the El Dorado.

That juxtaposition of homes and hotel rooms buffered with retail is not uncommon for urban in-fill in a redevelopment area, said Jeff Lugosi, senior vice president of hotel industry tracking firm PFK Consulting. He added that such a hotel could target Civic Center business travelers.

"Something like that is always a huge shot in the arm for a neighborhood like that," said Lugosi.

Speculation has already begun to swirl regarding the operator of the proposed hotel. Gaw also owns the Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood, which is operated by Thompson, a company that runs boutique hotels.

Lugosi said Thompson could be a fit in Downtown Los Angeles. "They were brought into the Roosevelt [because] they are used to urban areas. It wouldn't be uncharacteristic," he said.

Gilmore Associates said no operators have been considered, but Ekerling did point to Thompson as an example of what they're looking for. "That type of hotel is what we've kept in mind," she said.

The project was presented to members of the Downtown Los Angeles Neighborhood Council last week, which passed a motion to support the hotel.

Westsidelife
October 27th, 2007, 09:14 AM
Blogdowntown is reporting that this tower will be 27 stories tall. Based on the rendering, it looks as if that number is correct. But since the Downtown News is saying 24 stories, we'll go with that number instead -- even if it is wrong, which it probably is.

FROM LOS ANGELES
October 27th, 2007, 08:36 PM
It's really nice to hear a proposal for that area of the city, the design looks somehow inadequate for the area, but it will be nice to see how it blends with the OBD.:)

ArchiTennis
October 28th, 2007, 12:55 AM
It's sad that even in renderings not many people are put in them. Almost feels like this rendering in particular feeds into that mentality that L.A. is still only a car culture based society.

Joey313
October 28th, 2007, 01:35 AM
^^true but that does not mean the just because the pic has no people there really is not going to be any people. :|

FROM LOS ANGELES
October 28th, 2007, 01:38 AM
It's sad that even in renderings not many people are put in them. Almost feels like this rendering in particular feeds into that mentality that L.A. is still only a car culture based society.

I think that's just being real.

milquetoast
October 28th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Project looks neat but it's undersized for its design and location. Should be about 45-50 stories. :bash:

koolkid
October 28th, 2007, 09:42 PM
^^Agreed. This tower should be taller. I mean, the building looks great and should be viewed from a distance. I like the sound of a "pedestrian alley". The design might change, however, considering that it may take years for groundbraking. Lots of things can happen, pitty really becuase the design is awesome...

Westsidelife
January 15th, 2009, 06:51 AM
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Shiny Downtown Tower Is Out, New Park Is In (http://la.curbed.com/archives/2009/01/shiny_downtown_tower_is_out_new_park_in.php)

By Dakota
January 14, 2009

At one point, in another financial universe, an award-winning shiny condo/hotel project, designed by local architecture firm Johnson Fain, was planned for a plot of land at 4th and Spring streets (in the area between the Rowan Lofts and the El Dorado project). Today comes news from Councilwoman Jan Perry's office that the city has purchased the .8 acre land with the help of quimby fees (fees paid by area developers) and the plot will be used as a park. There's no ground-breaking scheduled, according to Eva Kandarpa, spokesperson for City Councilwoman Perry, but there are plans to hold public meetings to get input from locals about the project. "People could ask for part of the park to be a dog park, for instance," says Kandarpa. It'll be interesting to see how the park affects the two developments, and whether the green space will make the two buildings more appealing to buyers. The purchase should be completed by March. Meanwhile, according to the press release, the city purchased the plot for "fair market value price of $5.6 million dollars, which is 12.5% below the September 2008 appraised value for the parcel."

Councilwoman Jan Perry & Recreation And Parks Announce Plans for New Downtown Park:


Location at 4th and Spring Currently Under Acquisition with Help of Quimby Funds

Los Angeles- Councilmember Jan Perry and the Department of Recreation and Parks (RAP) announced that the City is currently acquiring a .8 acre of land at 418-438 Spring Street to develop a downtown neighborhood park. The announcement was made during a Quimby task force meeting at City Hall at 9:00 a.m. on Wednesday, January 14.

The .8 acre parcel at 4th and Spring streets is currently vacant and sits in a prime location in the heart of the Historic Core in downtown. Using Quimby funds, the city has agreed to purchase the land at the fair market value price of $5.6 million dollars, which is 12.5% below the September 2008 appraised value for the parcel. Quimby funds are collected by the City from developers for the purpose of creating park space. Escrow is expected to close in March of this year.

"Downtown Los Angeles is a vibrant place with a growing and thriving residential community. I recognize the need for urban, neighborhood parks and have been working hard with the help of the Quimby task force to make this vision a reality," said Councilwoman Jan Perry who convened the task force. "I look forward to developing this park for generations of Los Angelenos to enjoy."

The Quimby task force was convened by Councilwoman Perry's office in Spring of 2008 to address the need for more community-based parks in downtown and is comprised of members from the office of Councilwoman Perry, RAP, the Department of General Services, Chief Legislative Analyst, City Planning Department, Downtown Los Angeles Neighborhood Council, and other downtown residents and stakeholders The taskforce has been instrumental in helping to identify potential land for parks and will play an important role in helping to implement the vision of the community through this new park.

"A new park is always a cause for celebration," according to Jon Kirk Mukri, General Manager of the Department of Recreation and Parks. "Parks enrich our lives in so many ways and the City has a commitment to healthy parks and increased green space. We're pleased to be able to use Quimby funds to acquire this new downtown park.

Westsidelife
January 15th, 2009, 07:03 AM
We can now change the status of this project to "Canceled".

I'm a bit disappointed this one's not going to be built. Yes, a park will be nice, but the design was very classy and unique.

milquetoast
January 15th, 2009, 07:47 AM
Nooo, grass is good.....

Imperfect Ending
January 15th, 2009, 07:53 AM
Boo~~!!! Fuck parks..
It's just a breeding ground for drug merchants, rape victims, and razor-bladed sandboxes

Westsidelife
January 15th, 2009, 08:28 AM
^ Wow.

dweebo2220
January 15th, 2009, 09:35 AM
I'm totally stoked about this. It has the potential to be a really cool urban park. I'm sure they'll fuck it up, though. Here's my rendering of what I think they should do. That's supposed to be a mural on the building in back. And another cool thing is that the alleyway back there, harlem way or something, is the alley that lost souls cafe is on. If they could open the back gate and route pedestrians through the park, through the alley, onto 4th it would make this much more connected to 4th and Main, which in my opinion is the only real neighborhood of downtown and, with this park, totally secures its future as the hub of residential life in DT.

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milquetoast
January 15th, 2009, 10:48 AM
Let's see if we can get Pershing righted, then concentrate on others. These things have to be handled delicately..... as the wicked Witch of the West would say. And don't knock the razor-bladed sandboxes and slides until you've tried them!

LosAngelesSportsFan
January 16th, 2009, 02:26 AM
I'm totally stoked about this. It has the potential to be a really cool urban park. I'm sure they'll fuck it up, though. Here's my rendering of what I think they should do. That's supposed to be a mural on the building in back. And another cool thing is that the alleyway back there, harlem way or something, is the alley that lost souls cafe is on. If they could open the back gate and route pedestrians through the park, through the alley, onto 4th it would make this much more connected to 4th and Main, which in my opinion is the only real neighborhood of downtown and, with this park, totally secures its future as the hub of residential life in DT.

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That alley is going to be fixed up all the way according to the sales rep at Rowan! im gonna miss this building, but hopefully it will be resurrected on one of the empty lots nearby. that will be a win win for everyone.