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ChrisZwolle
October 29th, 2007, 10:02 PM
I was wondering, how you guys go to work, do you use a car, train, subway, bicycle or anything else? And why? Do you experience a lot of traffic jams? If possible, show a map :)

Well, i start. My commute is about 9 - 12km, depening on route. I live in a city of 115.000, and the city attracts commuters up to 40 kilometers away. The A28 bridge in Zwolle is the second busiest road outside of the Randstad.

I do not use a motorway to reach work. On the map shown below, i usually take the red route, which is 9km. This takes about 30 minutes by car in rushhour. Average speed: 18km/h. The section near downtown is very congested, it has a small roundabout which can't take rushhour traffic.
The green route is via the eastern ringroad, it has 2x2 lanes, but it is dotted with traffic lights and often congested, because of large office parks and a major hospital along it's route.
The Yellow route is via the southern ringroad, and is also 2x2 lanes, but the vicinity of a large office park and a college/university dependency causes major congestion here. With 50.000 AADT it's the busiest non-motorway in Zwolle. However, i will try that route too.
http://i21.tinypic.com/5p1vfb.png

This is the most congested part of my current route. To the left is downtown and the route goes through an old neighborhood, with a lot of pre-war housing. The roundabout is unable to handle all traffic from the southern downtown area (including a major hospital, schools and the provincial government building), and from my route, from industrial area Marslanden, the largest in the province, employing over 30.000 people.
http://i21.tinypic.com/2uyozg3.png

keber
October 29th, 2007, 10:08 PM
I walk for 15 minutes. No problems with congestions and parking.:cheers:

snupix
October 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM
(Un)fortunately only walking, although I'm a fan of public transport :)

iampuking
October 29th, 2007, 10:16 PM
I live in London and I get the bus to Kilburn tube station:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/30845388_f581ca2b1c.jpg?v=0

Jubilee line to Green Park and then the Victoria line to Pimlico:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/26346492_e3738ce7bd.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/212753654_d289780b4f.jpg?v=0

phattonez
October 29th, 2007, 10:19 PM
I walk downhill then uphill to get to class, and then I walk downhill and uphill again to get back to my dorm. Whenever I go bowling, either my brother picks me up or I take the bus.

czm3
October 29th, 2007, 10:26 PM
I work from home for the most part, so the worst congestion I ever encounter is the dog sitting in my bedroom doorway.

Rebasepoiss
October 29th, 2007, 10:28 PM
I live 9km from the centre. By bus it takes me around 20-25 minutes in the morning to get there.

philvia
October 29th, 2007, 10:34 PM
I work from home for the most part, so the worst congestion I ever encounter is the dog sitting in my bedroom doorway.

LOL
if you dont mind me asking.. what do you do?

anyways, i walk to school about 10 minutes and sometimes walk to work... about 5 minutes. Usually though i borrow my moms car to go to work cause i'm usually running late haha :lol:

ChrisZwolle
October 29th, 2007, 10:36 PM
I live 9km from the centre. By bus it takes me around 20-25 minutes in the morning to get there.

That's quite fast.

the bus system of Zwolle is kind of slow, it takes 25 minutes to reach central station, 6km away from my home. Taking the bus, it would cost me a commuting time of 1 hour and 20 minutes, unacceptable to me.

FREKI
October 29th, 2007, 10:36 PM
I live in the Nordwest district in Copenhagen and work downtown - I usually take the bus - it takes about 25min

Rute
http://i24.tinypic.com/k5mbl.jpg

Bus 5A ( we just got brand new buses on the line - haven't taken any pics yet )
http://i24.tinypic.com/2uthtep.jpg

Rebasepoiss
October 29th, 2007, 10:42 PM
That's quite fast.

the bus system of Zwolle is kind of slow, it takes 25 minutes to reach central station, 6km away from my home. Taking the bus, it would cost me a commuting time of 1 hour and 20 minutes, unacceptable to me.
BTW it takes 5-10 minutes longer to reach the centre by car than by bus.

czm3
October 29th, 2007, 10:43 PM
LOL
if you dont mind me asking.. what do you do?

For the most part, I manage bond portfolios, but I also help administer (with partners) a manufacture that produces specialty car parts. Yeah, I know the two are completely unrelated....

Blijdorp
October 29th, 2007, 10:44 PM
I bike to work it's 4.1KM and about 12-15 minutes

pmaciej7
October 29th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Ok, I live in Szczecin and work in Goleniów.
By car it's 42 km and it takes ~35-40 minutes. Cost = 16 PLN = ~4 €
Take look at the picture:
http://images24.fotosik.pl/104/004d7abb0463c0ba.jpg
Pink route, then A6 motorway and S3/6 expressway, and then again pink route to Goleniów.

Sometimes, when i don't need to hurry or i don't want to drive (sometimes even i am not in a mood for driving), i take a tram to main railway/bus station and then by train or by bus to Goleniów and 3 minutes walk from railway/bus station. It takes ~1.10 - 1.15. Cost 14,50 PLN.

Good point of combined travel is, that i can have a snooze or read a book.
Good point of travel by car is that i can take some pictures for SSC users :)

RawLee
October 29th, 2007, 10:52 PM
My commute:
Red is where I take the bus,route is ~15min
Blue is metro,its around ~7-8min, in every 2:30
Green is tram,thats ~5 min long,comes ~5min usually
Red again(optional)bus,~1min,if bus comes instantly,else its max 4 min waiting
Yellow is where I walk,thats ~5 min. If I walk the red before the yellow too,then thats ~8-10 min.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9343/nvtelenmx1.jpg

Verso
October 29th, 2007, 11:03 PM
I'm lucky, b/c roads I can use (and it's even the shortest route) aren't congested even in rush hours. So my 4 km take me only 10 minutes by car (hm, why's that just 24 km/h, when it feels much faster). There's one exception in rush hours though: after closing a bridge a couple of years ago, there's just one bridge left for my whole neighborhood, so I need 10-15 minutes for it alone (in rushhours, but I don't wake up so early :D). By bus, it takes me half an hour outside rush hours and 1 hour in rush hours.

pmaciej7
October 29th, 2007, 11:12 PM
Ughhh!! I hate my home computer!! I can't edit my post!!

Only one intersection (left turn, close to number 12 on the map) sometimes causes problems, and i have to wait up to 5 minutes.

Xusein
October 30th, 2007, 01:28 AM
Blue line: To school, commute by car, takes about 20 min (as high as 45 min during rush hour). Parking is free, but it's sometimes a bitch to find. A bus takes over 1 hour because of transfers.

Black line: To work, I usually take the bus to avoid high parking fees ($25/day), usually takes 15 minutes by bus (30 min during rush hour) and 10 min using a car off-peak. I don't take the car often when going downtown.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1958/s8080905947070fi9.jpg

TheCat
October 30th, 2007, 02:00 AM
I commute to the university, from the border between Toronto and its northern suburbs to the heart of downtown, a 19km trip overall. There are several options.

Most common coming down:
Red line by bus, ~4km, 10-15 minutes + 5 minutes waiting
Light blue/purplish line by subway, ~15km, 35 minutes, virtually no waiting (trains every 1 minute or so)
Magenta line by streetcar/tram, ~5 minutes + 5 waiting, sometimes replaced by walking (10 minutes) if wait is too long

Most common going back up (home):
Blue + Light blue/purplish line by subway, adds about 7-10 minutes compared to using the streetcar/tram, but I get a seat in the subway, as opposed to boarding at the station on the right side (no seat)
Red line by bus, usually takes a little longer than in the morning because of rush hour

Alternative route (uncommon):
Brown line by car, ~6km, 15-20 minutes depending on traffic, free parking with a monthly metropass, but I have to get there early to get a spot
Green line by subway, ~12km, 20-25 minutes (this side of the subway line is less busy)
Walking about 5 minutes

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4048/commuteuf0.jpg

Stifler
October 30th, 2007, 02:24 AM
I have 4 options to reach my university.

Option1: Direct bus
Time:40 min.
Frequency: only 4 per day.
Fare: 1€

Option2: Intercity bus + city bus
Time: 30min + wait for the 2nd bus + 15 min.
Frequency: each 30 min the 1st one and each 20min the 2nd one.
Fare: 1€

Option3: Commuter train + city bus
Time: 45 min + wait for the bus + 15 min.
Frequency: each hour the train, each 20 min the bus.
Fare: 1€

Option4: Car (25 km of motorway)
Time: 25 min.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/Steven_85/trayecto.png?t=1193703758

If the timetable of the first option doesn't fit with my classes I go by car (with a classmate to share the petrol expenditure).

Verso
October 30th, 2007, 03:25 AM
I'm lucky, b/c roads I can use (and it's even the shortest route) aren't congested even in rush hours. So my 4 km take me only 10 minutes by car (hm, why's that just 24 km/h, when it feels much faster). There's one exception in rush hours though: after closing a bridge a couple of years ago, there's just one bridge left for my whole neighborhood, so I need 10-15 minutes for it alone (in rushhours, but I don't wake up so early :D). By bus, it takes me half an hour outside rush hours and 1 hour in rush hours.Oh, and my map (the first 0.5 km left out out of personal reasons, hehe). Start is by the in-rush-hours problematic bridge (it's hard to get out of my "island"):

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/commute.jpg

canadave87
October 30th, 2007, 05:13 AM
Here's my commute to school, from my house in North Gloucester, on the eastern edge of Ottawa, to the University of Ottawa in Sandy Hill, which is just east of Centreville (downtown).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/mennnc1701/commute.png

Legend:

Blue: Walking (1.1 km) This is my most common route when I go to school, as it takes me directly to the Transitway (grade separated BRT and bus-only lanes on the highway), which then goes straight to school. Takes me 10-12 minutes.

Red: Transitway bus, route 95 Fallowfield\Baseline (10.1 km). Frequency is 3-5 minutes during most of the day on weekdays, and is very fast though sometimes crowded. It's usually about 15 minutes to campus, though it can be as quick as 10 on good days.

Green: Alternate bus up Ogilvie Road, routes 2, 124, 127 and 128 (2.4 km). Frequency is every 10 minutes or less on weekdays. I'm more likely to take this when I'm on my way home, or if it's raining or far to cold to walk. Takes about 10 minutes.

My total time to campus (~12 km) is about 25 minutes, most days, though I've done it in as few as 15 on occasion, if I hit connections right.

Alex Von Königsberg
October 30th, 2007, 07:40 AM
My commute for the last 2.5 years consisted of 4 km street driving and 28 km of motorway driving. The first 10 km of the motorway (US-50) around 07:00-08:00 resembled more a parking lot with the speed varying from 0 to 40 km/h ;) Then it became easier, and I could actually reach 80 km/h sometimes. The total distance was 32 km and in the morning it usually took about 40-50 minutes to get to school. In the afternoon, it was better because I hit the road before the rush hour began.

http://webpages.csus.edu/~om37/pics/school_commute.jpg


Starting with this autumn semester, I walk for 15 minutes to my class and could never been happier considering that the benzine prices reach $0.87/litre :)

ChrisZwolle
October 30th, 2007, 08:35 AM
Starting with this autumn semester, I walk for 15 minutes to my class and could never been happier considering that the benzine prices reach $0.87/litre :)

:lol: Dutch benzine price is $ 2,1/litre

city_thing
October 30th, 2007, 12:41 PM
I live in the Nordwest district in Copenhagen and work downtown - I usually take the bus - it takes about 25min

Rute
http://i24.tinypic.com/k5mbl.jpg

Bus 5A ( we just got brand new buses on the line - haven't taken any pics yet )
http://i24.tinypic.com/2uthtep.jpg

You work in Tivoli? Are you the guy that sells the polsers?

Rebasepoiss
October 30th, 2007, 01:17 PM
Since everybody's making maps and all :):
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7581/kooliteerb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Stifler
October 30th, 2007, 01:21 PM
:lol: Dutch benzine price is $ 2,1/litre
The most expensive prices in the EU, aren't they?

x-type
October 30th, 2007, 01:27 PM
i'm not sure, i think Sweden or UK has more expensive in EU. and in Europe the most expensive is in Turkey

edit: you're right, NL is the most expensive in EU

Jeroen669
October 30th, 2007, 02:18 PM
Yeah, it's ridiculous. More than 50% of diesel prices and even more than 60% of benzine prices are going directly to our government, here.

pmaciej7
October 30th, 2007, 02:36 PM
More than 50% of diesel prices and even more than 60% of benzine prices are going directly to our government, here.

One of us would say "our f... government". ;)

BTW: Polish prices:
Benzin = 4,20 PLN = 1,15 EUR = 1,66 USD
Diesel = 4,00 PLN = 1,10 EUR = 1,58 USD
LPG = 2,15 PLN = 0,59 EUR = 0,85 USD
EUR = 3,63 PLN
USD = 2,52 PLN

Verso
October 30th, 2007, 02:48 PM
^ What does PLN stand for? Polski nowi złoty?

x-type
October 30th, 2007, 02:51 PM
we have protected price of ES95 which is 8,00 HRK (about 1,08 €), but all other are not protected (so currently diesel is only 2 €cents cheaper)

Stifler
October 30th, 2007, 03:03 PM
Those are prices for unleaded petrol in the EU in cents/litre in July2007.

Before taxes
http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07382/prec1.JPG

After taxes
http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07382/prec2.JPG

They are in Spanish but I think it's easy to understand.

I wonder why is such a big difference between Germany and Netherlands before taxes.

pmaciej7
October 30th, 2007, 03:04 PM
^ What does PLN stand for? Polski nowi złoty?

I think yes. Old polish złoty was abbreved as PLZ, and new polish złoty is PLN. Exchange was made in 1995, 1 PLN = 10.000 PLZ. Imagine benzin - 42.000 PLZ :lol:

Verso
October 30th, 2007, 03:08 PM
^ Hehe, thanks. :)

ChrisZwolle
October 30th, 2007, 03:11 PM
Yeah, and you know what? Our traffic jams are the worst in Europe. Today, we had 110 traffic jams totalling almost 500km of queue. But our country is very small. Gas prices really don't affect the number of drives, people have to go to work you know.

However we already pay the highest price for driving, the government wants to toll all motorways with a congestion charge, from 3 cents on non-congested roads, to 14 cents on congested roads per kilometer.

If that will be deployed, some lower income classes are better off unemployed with an unemployment compensation, then driving to work everyday. :ohno:

Jonesy55
October 30th, 2007, 03:14 PM
I commute from my house in Shrewsbury to Birmingham, UK

http://www.shropshiretourism.info/how-to-get-here/images/uk_map.jpg

My commute is:

1) Walk to Shrewsbury train station, 1km, 10 minutes

2) train to Birmingham New Street Station, 75km, 1 hour

3) Walk from Station to my office 1.5km, 15 minutes

Then the same in reverse each evening

Total time with waiting for train about 3H00 each day, I do this 4 days per week :ohno:

Cost is Ł1,450 ($3,000) per year for the train ticket plus shoe leather

ChrisZwolle
October 30th, 2007, 03:19 PM
^^ that's quite a commute. Isn't a car faster/cheaper? I can drive 24.000 km or 15.000 miles for that amount of money. (fuel only).

czm3
October 30th, 2007, 03:27 PM
Yeah, and you know what? Our traffic jams are the worst in Europe. Today, we had 110 traffic jams totalling almost 500km of queue. But our country is very small. Gas prices really don't affect the number of drives, people have to go to work you know.

However we already pay the highest price for driving, the government wants to toll all motorways with a congestion charge, from 3 cents on non-congested roads, to 14 cents on congested roads per kilometer.

If that will be deployed, some lower income classes are better off unemployed with an unemployment compensation, then driving to work everyday. :ohno:

I never realized the Dutch situation was that bad, it sounds like the US. I was always under the impression that NL had an excellent rail/mass transit system.

Stifler
October 30th, 2007, 03:35 PM
However we already pay the highest price for driving, the government wants to toll all motorways with a congestion charge, from 3 cents on non-congested roads, to 14 cents on congested roads per kilometer.

If that will be deployed, some lower income classes are better off unemployed with an unemployment compensation, then driving to work everyday.
And why don't they think of improving the infraestructure (both for public and private traffic)?

Ouch, I have forgotten they are politicians. It's better for them to increase the taxes than to manage better the current funds.

ChrisZwolle
October 30th, 2007, 03:46 PM
I never realized the Dutch situation was that bad, it sounds like the US. I was always under the impression that NL had an excellent rail/mass transit system.

I think maybe it's as bad as Los Angeles traffic. We do have an excellent road quality, but many motorways are only 2x2 lanes. 2x3 is already rare, not to mention more lanes.

Our rail system is also extensive (more rail miles as motorway miles), however it's very busy and crowded in rushhours.

Most rural towns completely commute to the nearby larger city, creating heavy traffic flows. If you drive 10km on a provincial road, you'll pass like 5 small towns, but which all commute to the larger cities. Hence the traffic jams.

and why don't they think of improving the infraestructure (both for public and private traffic)?

There's no money, or they don't want to put money aside for efficent projects, only for megalomanic rail projects with few or no effect to traffic jams or overcrowded trains.

FREKI
October 30th, 2007, 04:54 PM
You work in Tivoli? Are you the guy that sells the polsers?
No :lol:

The arrows are just to indicate the overall route... I work around 200m southeast of Tivoli :)

Jeroen669
October 30th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Ouch, I have forgotten they are politicians. It's better for them to increase the taxes than to manage better the current funds.

A big problem is also the huge power of environmental organisations, here. They can practicly block every big project...

Jonesy55
October 30th, 2007, 05:09 PM
^^ that's quite a commute. Isn't a car faster/cheaper? I can drive 24.000 km or 15.000 miles for that amount of money. (fuel only).

Fuel only it would be about the same price but I would have to buy a second car (girlfriend uses our one car for work) so it would not be fuel only cost but also depreciation, servicing costs, parking, insurance etc which would make it much more expensive.

As the annual distance is around 27,000 Kms, the price of Ł1,450 is not too bad I think, I know people who travel similar distances into London and they pay double for their tickets.

In terms of time, with light traffic (ie sunday afternoon), you can be in Birmingham centre in just under 1 hour from my house so that would be quicker but during the weekday peak, you can be looking at 2 hours plus unless you get into the city before 0715 at the latest.

Also I can read or sleep on the train which I couldn't do in a car!!

Joshapd
October 30th, 2007, 06:11 PM
My commute starts by a 3 min walk to the busstop, then taking the bus for like 25 min.
At the station I take another bus which takes me to school for 15 min. Then again like a walk of 2 minutes. So a trip of 45 minutes, just as long as biking.

Chicagoago
October 30th, 2007, 08:18 PM
I can do one of two things.

1) Walk outside my apartment and get on the bus that stops directly at my front door every 2-4 min. That bus takes between 30-50 minutes depending on random traffic and how full the bus is. Then I walk 5 minutes to work in downtown Chicago. Total trip, 35-60 minutes.

2) Walk outside my apartment and get on the bus that comes every 2-4 minutes. Take that bus 3 minutes and get off at the train station. Then I take the L into downtown Chicago which takes about 12 minutes. The only problem is even though the trains come every 4 minutes, I usually have to wait for a few before I can squeeze on. Very overcrowded. Then I walk 5 minutes. Total trip is from 30-50 minutes.

Alex Von Königsberg
October 30th, 2007, 08:47 PM
Me and my wife went on a 4-day vacation to British Columbia last weekend and were very impressed with the Vancouver public transit. Very impressed. Unlike the US west coast mass transit that is not developed well and used primarily by homeless people, the Vancouver transportation system is very well designed and a lot of normal people use it on a daily basis. It actually reminded me a bit the good old days when I lived in Kaliningrad :) If I had to live in Vancouver metro area, I would gladly use the public transportation to get to work/school every weekday and would only use car for holiday trips.

LordMandeep
October 30th, 2007, 09:07 PM
The only problem is even though the trains come every 4
minutes

if they are overcrowded, why don't they do they increase frequency...

They are like subway cars right???

At rush hour you can easily get 2 min frequencies...

ChrisZwolle
October 30th, 2007, 09:11 PM
Today, i took the green route. It follows the ringroad, and has large portions of 2x2 lanes, however, only a short distance is 70km/h. Most is 50km/h, but you're often not driving faster as 15km/h.

http://i21.tinypic.com/5p1vfb.png

If you are not wanting to go left somewhere, stay on the right lane, between the trucks. I am coming from the North, and first there is a few hundred meters jammed before the traffic lights at the A28 exit (Zwolle-North) people are waiting to enter the motorway northbound.

Second problems is the right exit to the downtown area. You can't take the left lane, because it's totally jammed with stopped traffic for the Oosterenk office park, about 1200 m away to the left.

Third problem are the traffic lights at the soccer stadium, often stopped traffic is blocking the intersection.

4th problem is the left exit to a major hospital and the northern side of Oosterenk office park, because the exit lane can only carry about 15 cars at the time, but there are often over 200 cars at the time.

The 5th problem is the last, also the left exit for the central Oosterenk exit. Traffic spreads here towards Oosterenk, the south and southeastern Zwolle. After this traffic light, there is a free flow.

The whole jammed section is only about 2km, but it takes about 25 minutes to travel it. After all, the green route is as fast (or i must say slow) as the red one. Thursday, i try the yellow route. (see above)
http://i10.tinypic.com/4qd4nwx.jpg

RawLee
October 30th, 2007, 10:04 PM
^^Thats worse than Budapest downtown with car:ohno:

ChrisZwolle
October 30th, 2007, 10:09 PM
^^ it's only so bad around office times, so from 7.30 - 9.00 and from 16.30 till 18.00

But yes, that's most of the worktimes for many people.

RawLee
October 30th, 2007, 10:12 PM
^^If it wasnt for the metro construction,it would be the same here.

CborG
October 30th, 2007, 11:08 PM
My daily trip isn't really far, about 1km on my bike.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/427/woonwerkvl9.jpg

But then my day on the dutch roads begins. I'm a taxi driver. Fortunately i drive a nice comfortable car:)

My 'office'

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/379/volvo1qt6.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6243/volvo2ni3.jpg

ChrisZwolle
October 30th, 2007, 11:11 PM
^^ Do you do long distances or only inside the city? I guess you're often in a traffic jam.

CborG
October 30th, 2007, 11:21 PM
Both, we serve normal fares but also 'RegioTaxi' in my region, rivierenland. for long distances there are Schipholtaxi and Valys.
Valys is 'bovenregionaal vervoer' (don't really know the correct english translation) for mostly elderly or disabled people who want to visit their family or friends all over the country but can't use PT for various reasons. Those are the nice fares:)
I've been to every corner of the netherlands with those rides.

I'm also a frequent visitor of the daily Utrecht-den Bosch traffic jam on the A2, sometimes i'm standing in the same qeue 5 times a day..:crazy:

Verso
October 30th, 2007, 11:27 PM
Nice office. :) Do you also go across the border?

CborG
October 30th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Not me, but sometimes a company hires us to deliver a package to a factory in Hasselt, belgium and another company regulary wants us to pick up some businessmen at Dusseldorf airport in Germany. I haven't had the luck yet to be at the right time or place to be sent that way:(

CborG
October 30th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Officially my car isn't allowed to cross the border because it doesn't have a country sticker or a euro flag on its licence plate.

pmaciej7
October 30th, 2007, 11:43 PM
Question to drivers, but not only.
I wonder... Do you have many co-travelers? I mean, do you often see the same cars while driving to work?

I have two co-travelers: red Ford Mondeo (my boss, hehe, she says: do you want to race?) and blue Skoda (usually a woman, but sometimes a man, i don't get it, everyone of them drives alone, she's a civil servant, so he can't replace her). And usually in the same place i overtake airport bus.

x-type
October 30th, 2007, 11:47 PM
yes, a woman in red Mazda 3 who is allways late and speeding and idiot in old white Astra who is allways overtaking cars goin n a row (we don't have large jams, but 7-8 h and 15-16 h cars are going in a rows)

Rebasepoiss
October 30th, 2007, 11:51 PM
I used to see every day and still sometimes see an Audi 80 with Dutch number plates from the bus. I'm sure there are lots of other cars I see quite often, but that one just stood out from the others.

Verso
October 30th, 2007, 11:56 PM
I often see the same Mercedes with Liberian plates. :D

pmaciej7
October 31st, 2007, 12:19 AM
But then my day on the dutch roads begins. I'm a taxi driver. Fortunately i drive a nice comfortable car:)


Do you like private driving? Or your job discourages you from driving? I ask that question, because driving is not my job, but i have to drive every day the same route, and sometimes i hate car, road and everyone around.

ChrisZwolle
October 31st, 2007, 12:22 AM
I love to drive, however traffic jams aren't that pleasant, and i always try to avoid them, but that's like impossible in my country. Usually, every route is jammed :ohno:

CborG
October 31st, 2007, 01:57 AM
Do you like private driving? Or your job discourages you from driving? I ask that question, because driving is not my job, but i have to drive every day the same route, and sometimes i hate car, road and everyone around.

I love to drive, it's really a hobby of mine, wheiter i'm at work or drive privately. What i like about it is the freedom to go your own way and see new things. But if i had to drive the same route every day it wouldn't be that much fun and i would get irritated too.

Ballota
October 31st, 2007, 01:26 PM
When I went to highschool, I used a bus (5.5km ride) and walked another extra 1km:
http://i2.tinypic.com/62p1esl.jpg

But now I have a rare luck to live right next to the university campus...so I walk there for some 10-15min:
http://i5.tinypic.com/53agf3o.jpg

:cheers:

--------------

One of my friends isn't so lucky! :D

He lives in Slatine...on the island of Čiovo.
This is an one hour, 36km bus ride to the city center:
http://i4.tinypic.com/5y7cm1i.jpg

And then, from the center, he has to take another bus, and ride for some 5km to coledge.

He has to get up at 5.30am, if he wants to come to school in 8am. :nuts:
Damn... :lol:

spotila
November 1st, 2007, 06:02 AM
My commute at the moment is a 9 minute walk :~D

gladisimo
November 1st, 2007, 06:29 AM
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6328/26888450hr5.jpg

About 35 miles, 45 minutes by car, if I'm in a hurry

Or I'll go to Millbrae and take BART, which takes about 90 minutes

Still cheaper than living at school...

ChrisZwolle
November 1st, 2007, 10:05 AM
Isn't the Nimitz Freeway jammed often? Or in the other direction?

gladisimo
November 2nd, 2007, 08:15 PM
Correction to the map, I just noticed, I usually go by 24 and through MLK, less traffic than trying to wrestle through 80/580.

Oop, never mind, the Nimitz is the 880

The 880 is not too bad compared to the 101, there's USUALLY no complete gridlock. And you don't have to get through the Bay Bridge :)

As for my daily commute, I routinely get held up at the 92 880 interchange for about 5 minutes, but other than that, its usually not bad through 880 and 24. Through the section right before downtown Oakland is occasionally a trouble spot. I might get held up here and there, but usually no more than 15 minutes.

BART gets delayed a lot too, usually 10-15 minutes once every week or couple weeks.

Booze
November 3rd, 2007, 11:10 PM
Ups, repeated

ChrisZwolle
November 3rd, 2007, 11:17 PM
That's Málaga. I heard traffic is crazy there.

Booze
November 3rd, 2007, 11:35 PM
My commuter trip depends on the season. In winter time I live at the centre of the island, and in summer time I live by the sea. So I live either 32Km away from my Job or I live 55Km away and I have to cross the island of Mallorca.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5066/01qi8.jpg

Some pictures of my way back from work. Once I'me out from Palma, this is my route:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7894/01mq8.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/02-2.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9833/02wi3.jpg

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2203/03rm4.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3879/04wa9.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2201/7ii4.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7448/08zb8.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/05-1.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9818/10tt9.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1375/15en3.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2396/16iv9.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2567/17oc1.jpg

In winter time, I take this exit. Pavement has been changed since the original's one quality wasn't good enough.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/211/19st4.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7783/20ta3.jpg

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5229/21wi9.jpg

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2338/22fh2.jpg

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/222/24ri1.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/03.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/05.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/06.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/07.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/08.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/09.jpg

Last year graffitis werent there :ohno:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/55/10dv7.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/10.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/11.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/12.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/boozessc/ma13/13.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7287/02hx1.jpg

Booze
November 3rd, 2007, 11:39 PM
I forgot to mention: In winter time it takes me 40 - 45 minutes to get to my job, it's pretty annoying since I have to cross Palma and Ma 20's congestion is really unberable. Instead, I go through the city centre avenues which is way faster. The worst thing is that I have to leave at 7.05 from my garage in order to arrive at job at 07.45 (I have to wait then until 08.00). If I leave at 07.10 I would be late for sure since the road gets congested at that time frame.

Last summer time I worked in Palma too, but closer from the highway I take, so It took me the same time though I made 22 Km more! I just don't know how long it will take me the next summer.

That's Málaga. I heard traffic is crazy there.

No, it's Mallorca. Málaga roads begin with MA, while Mallorca ones begin with Ma. But traffic over here is crazy too :D

Sorry I accidentally pressed the submit button while I was editing ^_^

ChrisZwolle
November 3rd, 2007, 11:40 PM
Okay, the Ma prefix caught me then :D All those damn prefixes :( How many of them are there actually? Must be in the hundreds, not very clear to foreigners.

Booze
November 3rd, 2007, 11:52 PM
I just don't now. Since I live on an island, I only see Mallorca prefix :lol:

But I'd say every province, or island, has it's own prefix. So that would be arround 60 prefixes.

ChrisZwolle
November 5th, 2007, 07:43 PM
A lot of congestion again this afternoon.

White dot = Roundabout which can't handle the traffic
Red = congested (slow to jammed)
Green = free flow

http://i21.tinypic.com/1zdnbrn.png

The northern section becomes more and more jammed. I live in a new urban sprawl section which grows every day. It has 15.000 inhabitants now, and is already very congested, and the plans are to grow to 40.000, but no relief for traffic.

Booze
November 7th, 2007, 05:20 PM
Why dont they build circle or tangential roads surrounding cities in many parts of Europe?

RawLee
November 7th, 2007, 06:01 PM
^^Like where?

pmaciej7
November 7th, 2007, 07:13 PM
I met one girl, she told me, she wakes up at 5am and comes to work at 8am. Her commute is 5 min walk, 10 min by tram, 1.30 by train, 20 min by ferry(!!) and 10 min walk. Can you believe that?

RawLee
November 7th, 2007, 07:15 PM
^^20 min ferry? That must be Greece...

pmaciej7
November 7th, 2007, 07:36 PM
^^20 min ferry? That must be Greece...

No, this is Poland. She lives in Szczecin and works in Świnoujście - city situated mainly on the islands of Uznam (Usedom) and Wolin. These islands have no road connection - no bridge, no tunnel, just 2 ferries. Under current plans, a tunnel will be built under the river before 2013.

Patrick
November 7th, 2007, 09:17 PM
From my appartment to the University it is about 6km distance.

Option 1: Car. 10-15 Minutes.
Option 2: Bus and walk: 40-50 Minutes.
Option 3: Just walk: 70-80 Minutes.

And about every 2nd weekend I go home from my university city (Trier) to my hometown which is 160km away.

Option 1: I ride my car.
Option 2: Someone picks me up with his car who's also driving home.
Option 3: I take the train to Koblenz (120km) where a friend who lives in my hometown and works in Koblenz picks me up with his car.

And as i have no extra costs for using the train and bus (semester fee of 172 Euros includes free train rides from Trier to Saarbrücken, Koblenz and halfway to Cologne (because the other half is in another federal state) and free bus rides in and around Trier) I often use train and bus.

Booze
November 7th, 2007, 10:23 PM
How romantic, the ferry part of the trip :D

Chibcha2k
November 8th, 2007, 04:39 AM
From my place to the University
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6537/paseolecherodz0.png
It's between 1 hour and 45 minutes if I go on transmilenio.

If I go by car it's about 30 minutes....but the route is slightly different.

Intoxication
November 8th, 2007, 04:52 AM
When I used to go to School:

Bus: 30 mins each way (Total: 1 hr)

When I used to go to College:

Bus: 15 mins each way (Total: 30mins)

Now that I go Uni:

2 Buses and 2 Tubes: 2 hrs each way (Total: 4 hrs)

Rebasepoiss
November 8th, 2007, 07:01 PM
^^^^ 4 hours a day on commuting? That must be tiring.

ChrisZwolle
November 8th, 2007, 08:27 PM
I tried another route today. It was no good either. I tried the route south and west around the center, but it was totally jammed. I wonder if the ambulances ever save people's live, because the hospital is in the middle of a gridlock.

http://i6.tinypic.com/6yzjqqd.png

jamietoronto
November 9th, 2007, 12:47 AM
I commute from Richmond Hill (suburb) to the Financial District in Toronto. By car it is about 1.5 - 2 hours, since I drive during rush hour. In the end it is about a 4 hours in the car a day.

Intoxication
November 9th, 2007, 06:23 AM
^^^^ 4 hours a day on commuting? That must be tiring.

It is, believe me it is! But at least I don't have to go everyday. :)

RawLee
November 9th, 2007, 11:36 AM
I tried another route today. It was no good either. I tried the route south and west around the center, but it was totally jammed. I wonder if the ambulances ever save people's live, because the hospital is in the middle of a gridlock.


Have you tried the small,narrow city-roads(I hope you know what I mean.)?

ChrisZwolle
November 9th, 2007, 06:08 PM
Another 45 minute commute over 12km, i tried another route, but some idiot opens a bridge in the middle of rushhour :nuts:

http://i1.tinypic.com/8egz4f4.png

bs_lover_boy
November 9th, 2007, 07:33 PM
This is my Commute to and from my University
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Option 1(Which I use most often)By Car:
It takes around 35 minutes for the drive(single trip) but can differ by a LOT. When the traffic lights are all green and the average traffic on the road is fast, I have made it up the mountain in 25 minutes. When it is rush hour or when there are traffic problems (ie. Car accident), holdups will make the commute time upwards of 1.5 hours.
http://bsloverboy.tripod.com/commute01.jpg

Option 2 By Public Transit:
It takes around an average of 1.5 hour for a single trip and given the frequency of traffic holdups lately due to traffic accidents and construction work all over the city due to a booming real estate, commute times with public transit has reached an average of around 2 hours(single trip). Some of my friends living in the similar area took around 3 hours once just for a single trip up the mountain. On top of that, it snows on the mountain very often in the cooler months and busses that go up the mountain always breakdown!!!
http://bsloverboy.tripod.com/commute02.jpg

Although I want to commute, but it is just too much of a waste of my time!!!

pmaciej7
November 9th, 2007, 07:56 PM
Another 45 minute commute over 12km, i tried another route, but some idiot opens a bridge in the middle of rushhour :nuts:

At least, was it necessary to open the bridge?

and have You tried part of today's route (from north to roundabout at the motorway) and southern part of yellow route from this picture?
http://i21.tinypic.com/5p1vfb.png

Verso
November 9th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Another 45 minute commute over 12km, i tried another route, but some idiot opens a bridge in the middle of rushhour :nuts:What do you mean "opens a bridge"?

ChrisZwolle
November 9th, 2007, 08:28 PM
Well, the bridge opens for a vessel to pass. Quite stupid in the middle of rushhour.

Verso
November 9th, 2007, 08:31 PM
^ Ah, that. We don't have it any near. :)

ChrisZwolle
November 9th, 2007, 08:50 PM
We have it a lot, because a lot of shipping here. There are even drawbridges in the busiest motorways.

CborG
November 10th, 2007, 04:45 AM
I had a nice trip today, Culemborg-Goor-Haaksbergen 161km. The A1 is horrible though, even on a friday evening it's filled with trucks on the right lane and cars driving nervously 90-100km/h on the left lane. the return trip was better, almost no trucks. Cruise control, set on 140km/h, all the way!:cool:

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7460/tripap3.th.png (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tripap3.png)

CborG
November 10th, 2007, 05:50 PM
For your curiosity: I made a map with almost all cities and villages i've been with my taxi in the last 2-3 years, the red circle marks my town and startingpoint. The many villages near my town are not on the map because then it would become one big white blob:)

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7264/whereaboutsai6.jpg

DanielFigFoz
November 10th, 2007, 06:16 PM
You've been all over the place!

Verso
November 10th, 2007, 06:25 PM
No one interested in Maastricht? :D

CborG
November 10th, 2007, 06:37 PM
Well, it is kinda easy in such a small country:) Though there are still 2 provinces where i've been only one time; Groningen in the north and Limburg in the south. I'd love to drive there but fares that far are rare unfortunately.

ChrisZwolle
November 13th, 2007, 07:45 PM
A friend of my works in Utrecht and lives 10km away in Houten. It took him 120 minutes to reach his home today...

DanielFigFoz
November 13th, 2007, 09:23 PM
A friend of my works in Utrecht and lives 10km away in Houten. It took him 120 minutes to reach his home today...

:eek2:

MBM
November 14th, 2007, 12:02 AM
I live in Maribor, Slovenia.

I have 5,6 km to my faculty. Bus costs me 1€, and fare duration is 15-25 min.
I usually go with my car. I usually drive for 10 min (during traffic congestion up to 20min).

(It is quite nice in Slovenia, because cities are small:lol:)

CborG
November 14th, 2007, 12:35 AM
Today: Culemborg-Utrecht-Amsterdam and back: 4 hours and 30 minutes:crazy:

ChrisZwolle
November 15th, 2007, 08:17 PM
Another commute this time, i had a to go to Zaandam (just north of Amsterdam) for my work with a co-worker.

Around 11 am we got stuck in a traffic jam on the A1 westbound near Hilversum.

The way back was worse, the A1 was fully jammed between Amsterdam and interchange Muiderberg, eastbound. It took me 3 hours to complete the 130km between Zaandam and Zwolle...

pmaciej7
November 15th, 2007, 08:45 PM
Cborg didn't say, that the distance between Culemborg and Amsterdam is 77km :nuts:
Did you enter Utrecht or pass it by?

What a waste of time! Plannig your route you must take into consideration, that average motorway speed is ~35 km/h. And if someday there are no jams on motorways (ok, that's a tale of iron wolf; now i see, that traffic jams are part of dutch landscape, just like windmills :(), you will reach your destination one hour too early. And have to wait and again waste your time...

CborG
November 15th, 2007, 08:49 PM
^^I had to pick somebody up in Utrecht and bring to Amsterdam, without traffic jams it would take 1,5-2 hours...

Des
November 15th, 2007, 10:37 PM
My daily commute is from my bedroom through the hallway past the kitchen into my office :)

But I'm opening an office in the sourth part of NL next week though so then I have to drive 100 km just to get to work. Luckily I'm not bound to '9 to 5' so I will go to work at 10am and get back at 7pm when most traffic has cleared.

If I would go in rush hour by car I would have one of the worst commutes ever:

http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&hl=nl&geocode=&saddr=amsterdam&daddr=zwijndrecht&sll=52.469397,5.509644&sspn=2.352512,7.261963&ie=UTF8&ll=52.074442,4.983673&spn=0.593381,1.815491&z=10&om=1

Either I have to cross Utrecht, Gouda and Rotterdam or I have to cross Schiphol, Den Haag and Rotterdam...

To give you an impression of what a normal rushhour looks like in the Netherlands:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/237/netherlandsiv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

pmaciej7
November 15th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Des, tell me, how do you avoid traffic jams in the bathroom?
:)

Des
November 15th, 2007, 10:57 PM
Des, tell me, how do you avoid traffic jams in the bathroom?
:)

I kick the bitch out :lol:

ChrisZwolle
January 21st, 2008, 09:37 AM
I just had a 45 minutes 14km commute in my city.

It was raining, and traffic seems to be jammed everywhere. Getting out of my neighborhood via the 2x2 bypass just took me almost half an hour. :ohno:

Dinivan
January 21st, 2008, 10:30 AM
my daily trips:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2298/12570532nz4.png

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1166/24098829ld3.png

First I drive the car (red) for about 10 minutes until the train station. From there I use the train (purple) until Barcelona el Clot Aragó station, it takes around 40 minutes. There I walk inside the station until I get to the subway (blue) platforms and there I take a subway train either until the next station (10 minutes, including the walk until the platforms and waiting the train to come), or to the next one, in either case the following step is to wait for a tram (green) and take it during one or two stops (depending on where did I step out of the subway), that's around 15 more minutes. Finally I walk to the unversity entrance for for around 5 minutes. Total commuting time: 1 hour 20 minutes, distance: ~40-45km. Going back home usually takes a little bit more because I have to wait for the train which has a frequency of 30 minutes.
I have a highway that leaves me at walking distance from the university and it passes through the same town where I take the train, but it's hard to find a parking slot (plus it's more expensive and dangerous). But it only takes me 40 minutes then, so I use it only when I have an exam (I go really early in the morning to find a parking slot) or when I have lectures until very late in the afternoon cos then I'm really tired and I don't wanna do all the commuting thing.

ChrisZwolle
January 21st, 2008, 10:41 AM
^^ Are there a lot of traffic jams on workdays on the motorways of Barcelona? When is was there, it looked pretty efficient, but that was in summertime, so perhaps not very representative.

Dinivan
January 21st, 2008, 07:21 PM
^^ Yep, there's always a traffic jam during the morning at "Ronda Litoral" (see map) highway, which is the one I use to get there by car.

x-type
January 21st, 2008, 09:41 PM
the only place in Barcelona that is constantly congested is north-east part where Ronda Litoral meets Ronda del Dalt and few km's around

FREKI
January 21st, 2008, 10:01 PM
After I got a car it now only takes me ~10min to get to work :happy: ( I save roughly 40min daily )

http://i27.tinypic.com/1zlvj48.jpg

I'll do a Youtube vid someday :)

ChrisZwolle
January 21st, 2008, 10:08 PM
^^ That trip used to be half an hour?

FREKI
January 21st, 2008, 11:22 PM
^No I used to go by a bus that took another route - that route was 25 min, but I also had to walk to the bus and wait for it and all that..

There is a bus going almost the same route I now drive, but it's an express bus so it only goes every 20min ( the other line goes every 4-7min ) - on the plus side it do it almost as fast as I do ( 15min ) on the downside the schedule never mathed with my meeting or off time so instead of waiting at a bus stop I prefered to use the other line even if ment wasting a couple mins..

Neither a problem anymore :)

muc
January 22nd, 2008, 12:29 AM
I live in Munich and work in Freising (Germany).

http://lh3.google.de/Carsten1610/R5Uut9eG3QI/AAAAAAAAAC4/UJbk8JX1eDs/Commute.gif?imgmax=512

Driving distance is about 30km and usually takes me about 30min from door to door by car.

Luckily it's not really far from my appartment to the autobahn A9 so I don't have to deal much with inner city trafic. The A9 north of Munich is probably one of the busiest highways in Germany and I can see the traffic jam every day - going the oppisite direction. :) That's the advantage of living in the city and working outside, opposed to what most people do.

Usually I don't have any real traffic jams at all on my way. Going out the first stretch of the A9 is usually crowded but flowing, 80km/h in the beginning up to 120km/h at the junction with A99 (adaptive electronic speed limit signs everywhere around Munich). After that the autobahn widens to 4 lanes in either direction and it's nice driving, usually without speed limit after Garching (I drive up to 200km/h where sensibly possible).

The A92 is 3 lanes between Eching and the airport and usually allows up to 120km/h. After the airport it's just 2 lanes but very little traffic which means no speed limit again.

Public transport isn't very convenient for me as it would take 1 hour - twice the time. With U/S Bahn I have to change trains 2 times and then into bus in Freising. That's an option after an afterwork party involving alcohol or in case the car isn't availabe but not something I would like to do on a daily basis.

TheCat
January 23rd, 2008, 04:53 AM
^^ These commute times seem amazingly fast to me. I live on the northern border between Toronto and the suburbs, and commute to my university in downtown Toronto everyday.

The distance is about 20 km. I usually take public transportation (bus -> subway -> tram/walking), and on average it takes about 1 hour, and during rush hour usually 10-15 minutes more because the subway gets delayed due to congestion on the line (many of our subway stations are close to each other compared to other cities in the world). Luckily, because I am now completing my 3rd year, I was able to create a schedule where I usually avoid rush hour (class starts around 11-12). But when I was beginning my studies, all classes began at 9 and I had to always go during rush hour.

If I drive to the subway station, I mostly gain convenience, but not much in speed, because in rush hour the main streets leading to the station are congested. Especially, it usually takes a very long time to perform an important left turn in one intersection, because many cars turn to this road, which also leads to the closest east-west motorway in the city.

This 1 hour or so seems much worse than, for example, the commute described by Dinivan (1 hour 20 minutes for 40-45 km, also using different methods of public transportation).

The commute described by muc (30 minutes for 30 km, door to door) is also very short. Of course, I guess his advantage is that he lives and works near the motorway, which makes a big difference. However, the main eastern motorway that goes into downtown Toronto from the north (Don Valley Parkway) is usually so badly jammed during rush hour, that it can take over 1 hour.

Svartmetall
January 23rd, 2008, 09:33 AM
My commute is by route 68 (Howick and Eastern) bus in Auckland from my house to the Medical School at Auckland University. This bus route might not exist in this form any more as it might be axed by crazy politicans... It isn't much quicker to drive as you get stuck in the same sort of traffic and then you have to pay up to $30 a day to park. It's nutty.

Bus:
Peak hour: 1hr 30 mins to travel 25.27km.
Off-Peak: 1hr - 1hr 15mins to travel 25.27km.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4918/mycommutevy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

city_thing
January 23rd, 2008, 11:20 AM
That's quite the distance Svartmetall

ChrisZwolle
January 23rd, 2008, 11:38 AM
^^ Especially in time.

1,5 hour for 25km is like 16,7 km/h on average.

SEQ92
January 23rd, 2008, 12:07 PM
Here is my commute, all 14.63km of it:
http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/09/00/30/65/daily_10.jpg

First, I take the car from home (next to the river where all the lines end) and am driven to school (bus services are really bad in the morning) and that trip takes 20mins, then I take one bus from school to the city, walk 100m down Adelaide St and then take the 197 home, the trip on the 197 usually takes around 20mins just to do 3km (2.5km as the crow flies. It takes so long because the traffic lights are slow, and it has 15 (yes, fifteen) bus stops to stop at between the city and my stop) and then I get off the bus and walk 500m home.

Svartmetall
January 23rd, 2008, 01:06 PM
^^ Especially in time.

1,5 hour for 25km is like 16,7 km/h on average.

This is why I say that people in Europe don't realise how good they have it with public transit. You guys often use the excuse of "it doesn't quite go where I want it to" or "It's not convenient enough". But trust me, you've not seen anything yet! Perhaps a stint of living in a country with poor provision for PT would make all of you appreciate it more because it helps to contribute to less congested roads too meaning a quicker journey time for both modes, PT and private.

muc
January 23rd, 2008, 09:26 PM
The "trick" in my case is that I am going against the flow. Outbound in the morning and inbound in the evening. So I usually don't get stuck in any heavy traffic at all.

Going the other direction would take at least twice the time.

Mateusz
January 24th, 2008, 01:17 PM
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/6010/commuteku6.jpg

So, I'm going to College in Barnsley by bus. For exmaple in Saturday morning about 8 AM it takes about 15 minutes, when you go at 4 or 5 PM in Monday or other working day it takes about 40, even 45 minutes :) Oh and I'm going on foot from Interchange to College, it takes about 4 minutes :nuts: And the total lenght is about 7 kilometres

I-275westcoastfl
January 27th, 2008, 07:03 AM
My daily commute is done almost fully by car, the first one is to school, second to one job, third to another. They start from outside my neighborhood.

To school(about 5 miles one way)
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/MK727/MK727%20Ablum%202/commute.jpg

To jobs (about 6+ miles one way)
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/MK727/MK727%20Ablum%202/commute2.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/MK727/MK727%20Ablum%202/commute3.jpg

FREKI
January 27th, 2008, 07:08 AM
^Wouldn't that diagonal "State Road 590" be a short cut compared to the route on the map?

ChrisZwolle
January 27th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Maybe it has more traffic lights or a lower speed limit.

X236K
January 27th, 2008, 11:58 AM
This is my:

1.4 km, on foot in 15 minutes :)

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/commute.jpg

Verso
January 27th, 2008, 12:13 PM
My not-daily-at-all "commute" in Berne, Switzerland:

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Bern.jpg

ChrisZwolle
January 27th, 2008, 12:22 PM
This is my:

1.4 km, on foot in 15 minutes :)

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/commute.jpg

What about a bicycle? That reduces your time to 3 or 4 minutes. And it's very cheap.

X236K
January 27th, 2008, 12:42 PM
What about a bicycle? That reduces your time to 3 or 4 minutes. And it's very cheap.

Sometimes... but I prefer to walk not to get sweat

ChrisZwolle
January 27th, 2008, 01:02 PM
I don't mean the tour the france like stuff :D

In the Netherlands, it's very usual to use your bike, while nobody gets sweat. Unless it's 35 degrees and high humidity.

X236K
January 27th, 2008, 01:12 PM
I don't mean the tour the france like stuff :D

In the Netherlands, it's very usual to use your bike, while nobody gets sweat. Unless it's 35 degrees and high humidity.

My city is not biker-friendly. This is still one of the differencies between West end East. The city needs to invest into another stuff - Ostrava is 3rd biggest city in CZ but there's no highway connection yet.

Booze
January 27th, 2008, 11:04 PM
Since last Thursday my daily commute is a 5 minutes, 500 meters, walk :nocrook:

I'm very happy as I save 90 minutes in transportation every single day, 100€ in oil every month, and I am a respectfull sustainable person :D

FREKI
January 27th, 2008, 11:34 PM
In the Netherlands, it's very usual to use your bike, while nobody gets sweat..I think it's a matter of personal pace..

I used to bike to work but my natural speed makes me sweat too ( and get hungry ) - so I stopped.. ( biking slow felt unnatural ) :)

ChrisZwolle
January 28th, 2008, 08:21 AM
I also do not use my bike, because i have problems eating in the morning, i cannot make it driving my bike 12km in the morning. And 12km is a bit far if you ask me. But i think this is a personal issue for everyone, some people say 3km is far enough, some students bike their way to school every day 20km one way.

Jeroen669
January 28th, 2008, 08:39 AM
I use the bicycle for over 200kms a week, though I've got the same problem as Freki. During summer (when buses are empty, because people go on bike :)) I often use the bus, for that reason. But at this moment the weather is perfect for biking. :banana:

ChrisZwolle
January 28th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Some corridors in Dutch cities are heavily biked, sometimes you can see dozens of cyclists waiting for traffic lights at the time, especially near highschools, this can rise to in the hundreds.

In my city of Zwolle, there is a street that handles over 20.000 cyclists daily. :)

Jeroen669
January 28th, 2008, 03:59 PM
That would almost make a traffic jam on the bicycle path if someone gets a flat tyre of something. :D

Booze
January 28th, 2008, 10:14 PM
some students bike their way to school every day 20km one way. :nuts: Even in flat areas, cycling for 20 Km just to get to your school must be exhausting

In my city of Zwolle, there is a street that handles over 20.000 cyclists daily. :) O:

Jeroen669
January 29th, 2008, 12:33 PM
:nuts: Even in flat areas, cycling for 20 Km just to get to your school must be exhausting

Not if you're used to it. My school used to be 15 kms from the village I was living in. And now I bike even about the same, in a quite hilly city. From the students on secondary school (say, 12-16 years) more then 95% gets on bike to school.

CborG
January 30th, 2008, 12:23 AM
Today i've driven 900km for my work. Longest trip was from home to northeast Groningen en then Back via the German A31 from Bunde to exit Borken, following the Route 67 and via the BAB3 back to the netherlands. Total 592km.:)

CborG
January 30th, 2008, 12:25 AM
I've Updated my 'I was here' map:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4559/whereaboutsen0.jpg

Mateusz
January 30th, 2008, 09:37 AM
I thought Chris you have expanded whole network of dutch motorways:D But now I see you haven't ;)

I-275westcoastfl
January 31st, 2008, 04:05 AM
^Wouldn't that diagonal "State Road 590" be a short cut compared to the route on the map?
Not really since the speed is lower, but maybe it might be a bit more empty but either way won't save much time or gas.

Maybe it has more traffic lights or a lower speed limit.
It has about the same amount of lights but yes a lower speed limit.

Boardcube
January 31st, 2008, 08:09 AM
http://www.plaatjesupload.nl/img34/1201763088-590.jpg (http://www.plaatjesupload.nl/bekijk32/-494757.html)
red line is to work(about 25 min)
Blue line is to school (about 20 min)

ChrisZwolle
January 31st, 2008, 08:53 AM
^^ You work at Karwei or Praxis (hardware stores)

I work at the same industrial park.

Verso
January 31st, 2008, 09:41 PM
Oh, another one from Zwolle. :tongue2: I always thought it was pronounced "tswolle" (as it would be in German), but it's obviously "zwolle", or as Serbs would say, "say as you write". :D

ChrisZwolle
January 31st, 2008, 09:45 PM
Pronounce Lochem or Scheveningen! :D

Or Tytsjerksteradiel or Sexbierum :cheers:

Verso
January 31st, 2008, 09:50 PM
Pronouncing Scheveningen is no problem, Milošević was there. :D But what's with Sexbierum? :D

Verso
January 31st, 2008, 09:51 PM
Hey Chris, it's your turn on Guess the highway. ;)

ChrisZwolle
January 31st, 2008, 09:52 PM
The village is famous for its contraction of the words "Sex", "Bier" (the Dutch word for beer) and "Rum". Because of this, the traffic sign of the village is subject to street sign theft.

In history the town is mentioned as Sixtebeeren (1322), or Sixtusbarra. The name Sixtebeeren is thought to derive from a combination of the name of the pope Sixtus II and the Old Frisian word for house, bere.

ChrisZwolle
January 31st, 2008, 09:52 PM
Hey Chris, it's your turn on Guess the highway. ;)

Alright, i forgot. I'm on it ;)

Verso
January 31st, 2008, 10:05 PM
The village is famous for its contraction of the words "Sex", "Bier" (the Dutch word for beer) and "Rum". Because of this, the traffic sign of the village is subject to street sign theft.

In history the town is mentioned as Sixtebeeren (1322), or Sixtusbarra. The name Sixtebeeren is thought to derive from a combination of the name of the pope Sixtus II and the Old Frisian word for house, bere.

Interesting, hehe. :cheers: Of course sex- can also mean six- (6-).

ChrisZwolle
January 31st, 2008, 10:06 PM
This one shouldn't be that hard:

http://i32.tinypic.com/710193.jpg

Verso
January 31st, 2008, 10:07 PM
Not here. :rofl:

ChrisZwolle
January 31st, 2008, 10:08 PM
Oops hehe

Boardcube
February 1st, 2008, 12:12 PM
^^ You work at Karwei or Praxis (hardware stores)

I work at the same industrial park.

:lol:
no i work at olympus:)

Escher
February 1st, 2008, 06:08 PM
My commute in Rio. A lot of bridges/tunnels and jams! Usually takes me 40-50 min.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/marcelocuri/commute.jpg

Escher
February 1st, 2008, 06:29 PM
But sometimes I realize it´s not all bad to be stucked in a traffic jam over a double-deck road...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/marcelocuri/joa3.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/marcelocuri/joa2.jpg


:cheers:

FREKI
February 3rd, 2008, 06:12 AM
Sooo beautiful! :drool:

woutero
February 4th, 2008, 10:54 PM
My commute from Amsterdam to Rotterdam is about 80km and takes 1h20 by bike and train.

First I bike to Amsterdam-Zuid station (2,8 km - 15 min).
http://lh3.google.nl/w.onclin/R6eFxLEXJcI/AAAAAAAAAZo/5yvKHvM6iGU/s400/route1.jpg

From there I take a train to Schiphol Airport (7 mins) and change to a different train to Rotterdam Central (41 mins) (53 min including wait/change time, 75km):
http://lh4.google.nl/w.onclin/R6eFxbEXJdI/AAAAAAAAAZw/NhnnQiejgXk/s400/route2.jpg

In Rotterdam I get on another bike and bike to my office (1,8 km - 10 min):
http://lh4.google.nl/w.onclin/R6eFxbEXJeI/AAAAAAAAAZ4/2JZa-jR4pZ8/s400/route3.jpg

ChrisZwolle
February 5th, 2008, 09:55 AM
^^ Probably better than taking the car. The A4 can be pretty jammed. (especially when an accident happens on the A12, which is daily).

Glodenox
February 6th, 2008, 01:03 AM
Here's my commute for each time I go to school (Belgium):

Use my bike to go to the nearest train station. (about 5 minutes - 1360 m)
Take the commuter train to Mechelen. (4 minutes - 5 km)
Switch trains to the InterCity train towards Antwerp. (about 21 minutes - 23.4 km)
Take the premetro towards "Linkeroever" until Station Groenplaats. (about 5 minutes - 1400 m)

An alternative for me is taking the bus to Mechelen, which takes me about 3 minutes walking and 8 minutes on the bus.

When displayed on an image, it looks like this:
http://www.tomputtemans.com/images/Commute.png
Yellow: bike
Red: Train
Green: Premetro (actually just an underground tram)

When considering the added waiting times it usually turns into a total of about an hour.

- Glodenox

ChrisZwolle
February 7th, 2008, 08:31 PM
This is my daily traffic jam. About 10 - 15 minutes delay here.

http://i32.tinypic.com/f2o9d.jpg

Verso
February 7th, 2008, 08:38 PM
And that's you on the right (Peugeot 306). :D

monkey1
February 7th, 2008, 08:47 PM
This is the road that i take to get to my office and the 2nd pic is of my wheels, a 2007 Maruti-Suzuki SX4 sedan....in Madras, India.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2338/chennai4030ah7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9342/sx4034uz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

1000city
February 7th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Katowice: Millenium Settlement->downtown, aprox. 6 kilometers (same way back home) - it takes me 15 minutes, half of that on foot (red line) :)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/1-1.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/2-1.jpg

Home:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Beztytuu-1.jpg

These streets I take by car - usually no t-jams (one of the best things about my city) so I do 80-120 km/h
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/chsp4.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/800px-DTS-DK79.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PICT0078.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/5af6b25194ef81dd.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/90b8389c93a7a142.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/tysiacleciedts1ta9.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/671_d.jpg

I leave my car in this area (no parking fee zone)...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/DSCN4116.jpg

...and take a short walk through this square...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/667_d.jpg

...to work by this street:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/4c52e3c7c0c7d682.jpg

Good tram connection, quite nice walk possible, but I'm wheels enthusiasts and so I always go by car or if there's nice weather on bicycle. Enthusiast but also poor student, so I drive this :lol:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Obraz001.jpg
Well - at least it's cheap to run (LPG converted), reliable (good job korean friends:cheers:) and nobody would steal it (rubbish) :)

TheCat
February 7th, 2008, 11:39 PM
^^ This is by far the most interesting report in this thread :)
Your city seems to have good roads btw.

Verso
February 8th, 2008, 12:19 AM
^^ This is by far the most interesting report in this thread :)Agreed! :) Where did you get this ancient photo though? :Dhttp://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/chsp4.jpgAnd what's this car that I see 5 of them?

pmaciej7
February 8th, 2008, 12:26 AM
That's Syrena (http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrena_%28samoch%C3%B3d%29).

Also english (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrena).

Verso
February 8th, 2008, 12:49 AM
^ Interesting, reminds me of the Ambassador (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustan_Ambassador). :)

1000city
February 9th, 2008, 09:33 PM
I see only two “Syrena” („mermaid”) cars on this shot (red dots). Three other (yellow dots) are “Warszawa” cars:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/chsp4-1.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Warszawa.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Warszawaty.jpg

Plus we got here one “Polski Fiat 125p” (black dot):
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PF1.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PF2.jpg
(I used to own one of these^^, built in 1968 and I really miss it:ohno:)

and some commercial vehicles:
“Żuk” (“beetle”, blue dot)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/uk.jpg

2 x „Nysa” (green)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Nysa.jpg

2 x Star 29 (grey)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Star29.jpg

Jelcz 315 (pink)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/Jelcz315.jpg

Plus a car and a truck I don’t recognize and two legendary imports – VW Garbus (“hunchback” – that’s how we call VW Bettle, white dot) and Trabant P601 (called “Honecker’s revenge” :banana:, pink dot)

This photo was taken in early 70s – now this place looks different. Traffic lights, moved tracks, additional lanes, tunnel instead of cross-walks etc. Shot was found in SSC thread and together with 100s of other photos can bee seen in international photo-thread about Katowice in my signature. I invite :)

P.S.: Sorry for OT :cheers:

Ni3lS
February 10th, 2008, 01:28 PM
I'm going to school by bike. It's 16 km ( 60 minutes ) and I have to wake up 6 o'clock AM.:sly: That's the thing I don't like. But when it's rainy I'm going by bus what takes 30 minutes.

ChrisZwolle
February 10th, 2008, 01:33 PM
I hope to move closer to work at the end of this year. That means i don't have to drive in traffic jams, but take my bike to work :) (or the car when it rains :D )

Verso
February 10th, 2008, 07:02 PM
@ 1000city: awesome stuff. :D I know the "Polski Fiat 125p", it's ugly (I hope it's not the one you miss so much :colgate:), I'd rather have the "Warszawa". :cool: What do you mean by dots?

1000city
February 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM
:)Yes, Polski Fiat is the one I miss :) For me it's a beautiful car - simple, elegant design, perfect proportions. But of course it's the matter of personal taste. Warszawa is another polish car I adore and probably I'm gonna get one in the future, when I could afford owning two cars, as it's my "childhood's dream". As for Polski Fiat 125p I guess You know this type, as it was assembled in former Yugoslavia:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PF7.jpg

I still don't think it's ugly, but it's also not stylish as older types (plastic rubbish inside and out). I had one of first assembled, like this one (just that mine was ivory with red inerior):
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PF444444.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PF3.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PF55555555.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/1000city/PF6.jpg

By dots I mean... dots :lol: Check first shot in my previous post precisely :cheers:

EDITED: OMG, I forgot to place this shot :lol: - sorry, now it's there :cheers:

Verso
February 10th, 2008, 07:58 PM
Yeah, now it's better. :D Wow, whole collection on one picture. How did you recognize so many of them? They are so small. Oh, and yes, I remember Polski Fiat 125p. :) I just thought it was Lada. :D I thought the only Polski Fiat was Maluch. :)

1000city
February 10th, 2008, 08:20 PM
Polski Fiat 126p, Maluch, was "Mały (small) Fiat"
Polski Fiat 125p was "Duży (big) Fiat"

History of Fiat production in Poland reaches 1920s, so there are many "Polski Fiat" models, but those two were the most popular, and send on many foreign markets.

"How did you recognize so many of them?" - well, as I said I'm an enthusiast :banana:

X236K
February 10th, 2008, 10:45 PM
I'm going to move so my daily commute will take more time :(

6,5 km by car, 4 km by bike (just 10 minutes):

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/dailycommute.jpg

Alex Von Königsberg
February 11th, 2008, 09:47 AM
Those Polski Fiat 125p look a lot like ВАЗ-2103 (Лада). The Russian assembly line of Ladas started with Ваз-2101 ("копейка") which was an exact copy of Fiat 124R and was rather a reliable car for that time. But then, Soviet engineers started to re-develop this line naming new models in a consecutive order: 2102, 2103, etc. Since that time, Ladas officially became a piece of crap and a laughing stock of the entire civilised world :lol:

Ваз-2103
http://vaz.pro-motors.ru/content/_large/vaz-228-1.jpg

I saw Fiat 124 in Sacramento twice and was almost sure they were Lada until getting close enough to see Fiat logo.

Timon91
February 11th, 2008, 04:08 PM
It takes me about 55 mins to get to my school by bike.
When the weather is too bad I go by bus, which takes about 35 mins, but it is often too late...

TheCat
February 12th, 2008, 07:40 AM
Those Polski Fiat 125p look a lot like ВАЗ-2103 (Лада). The Russian assembly line of Ladas started with Ваз-2101 ("копейка") which was an exact copy of Fiat 124R and was rather a reliable car for that time. But then, Soviet engineers started to re-develop this line naming new models in a consecutive order: 2102, 2103, etc. Since that time, Ladas officially became a piece of crap and a laughing stock of the entire civilised world :lol:

Ваз-2103

I saw Fiat 124 in Sacramento twice and was almost sure they were Lada until getting close enough to see Fiat logo.

lol there is actually a Lada building on my street in Toronto (i.e. a commercial building that bears a big "Lada" sign), once selling Lada Nivas, although as far as I know they are no longer being sold, since like 1997 (according to Wikipedia).

Verso
February 12th, 2008, 10:00 PM
http://vaz.pro-motors.ru/content/_large/vaz-228-1.jpg18 years ago we also had it. :hammer: Actually it was Lada 1600, I think.

Bartolo
February 13th, 2008, 03:25 AM
my current commute is from the west end of Dundas, ON to north of downtown Hamilton. Takes about 45 mins depending on how fast my first bus gets me to downtown.

Mateusz
February 13th, 2008, 12:08 PM
So, I captured pictures of my commute, road part which is most intresting here :) I had comfortable view because I was at the front of the top of doubledecker bus. Sorry for quality of pictures, it was taken by my mobile phone and it was my first expirience in taking pictures of roads :) Enjoy :cheers:

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDMVVrChI/AAAAAAAAAB0/nJIGQ7stXCo/DSC00143.JPG?imgmax=640
We start. Road A633, Wombwell Lane.

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDNFVrCiI/AAAAAAAAACA/dXkixQAKGCs/DSC00144.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDOVVrCjI/AAAAAAAAACI/w3ivBaXMeNc/DSC00145.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDPlVrCkI/AAAAAAAAACQ/DS-aQDnYjfk/DSC00146.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDQ1VrClI/AAAAAAAAACY/1UM6MwgGKbo/DSC00147.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDTVVrCnI/AAAAAAAAACo/6lJVLPq_HhE/DSC00149.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDUlVrCoI/AAAAAAAAACw/_WvZlsPMBmw/DSC00150.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDVVVrCpI/AAAAAAAAAC4/333dJBMNcZw/DSC00151.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDWVVrCqI/AAAAAAAAADA/kXt2zq6eWYk/DSC00152.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDXFVrCrI/AAAAAAAAADI/UeAgLXi34Nk/DSC00153.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDYFVrCsI/AAAAAAAAADQ/0JBLyOn02Vg/DSC00154.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDY1VrCtI/AAAAAAAAADY/ovPl_QagYZw/DSC00155.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDbVVrCuI/AAAAAAAAADg/VVUQjQwL6hM/DSC00156.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDcFVrCvI/AAAAAAAAADo/F20Qu3880G4/DSC00158.JPG?imgmax=640
Stairfoot Roundabout, we join road A635.

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDc1VrCwI/AAAAAAAAADw/XUyIifOo2zo/DSC00159.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDgFVrCyI/AAAAAAAAAEA/rGa-uUJNxf8/DSC00161.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDhVVrCzI/AAAAAAAAAEI/j-Uoyw4uVQg/DSC00162.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDiVVrC0I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/Y9U0nkRhFcU/DSC00163.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDjFVrC1I/AAAAAAAAAEY/ZrrvvSnBM5c/DSC00164.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDkVVrC2I/AAAAAAAAAEg/B0age6cH2KE/DSC00165.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDlFVrC3I/AAAAAAAAAEo/eb_zI2Sh-F0/DSC00166.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDmFVrC4I/AAAAAAAAAEw/OrCnmMzJxXk/DSC00167.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDn1VrC6I/AAAAAAAAAFA/C7FRsGld2Ws/DSC00169.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDplVrC8I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/bDLjTUE3vTc/DSC00171.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDq1VrC9I/AAAAAAAAAFY/RAqV6SdPKkc/DSC00172.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDr1VrC-I/AAAAAAAAAFg/7YO52sAThy4/DSC00173.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDtFVrC_I/AAAAAAAAAFo/I5Yg1-F5zIs/DSC00174.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDt1VrDAI/AAAAAAAAAFw/iI3CHXCosZY/DSC00175.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDu1VrDBI/AAAAAAAAAF4/HzFRNPPmbGI/DSC00176.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDv1VrDCI/AAAAAAAAAGA/oEY5WdVX5cY/DSC00177.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDw1VrDDI/AAAAAAAAAGI/NOB21rSQzeE/DSC00178.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDxlVrDEI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/XaAa_X7ji2o/DSC00179.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDy1VrDFI/AAAAAAAAAGY/y0XfA73t9z0/DSC00180.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh5.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDz1VrDGI/AAAAAAAAAGg/aQs7oEb2iSM/DSC00181.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LD0lVrDHI/AAAAAAAAAGo/6nklVzqfSJ0/DSC00182.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LD1VVrDII/AAAAAAAAAGw/JjTsfb-wegM/DSC00183.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LD3lVrDJI/AAAAAAAAAG4/2wUDTaOiRWM/DSC00184.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LD4lVrDKI/AAAAAAAAAHA/H4sOh0XPqSI/DSC00185.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LD5lVrDLI/AAAAAAAAAHI/8_ISHcCrnFQ/DSC00186.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LD7lVrDNI/AAAAAAAAAHc/l4XRucu2rbg/DSC00188.JPG?imgmax=640

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LD_VVrDQI/AAAAAAAAAH0/RFsnwkXjrQs/DSC00191.JPG?imgmax=640
And new Interchange, opened in April '07

http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LEBVVrDSI/AAAAAAAAAIE/_pkmOAjmwaM/DSC00193.JPG?imgmax=640

TheCat
February 13th, 2008, 11:56 PM
^^ Cool pictures. I've always wondered, what do the zig-zag lane markings mean in Britain?

Examples in these pictures:
http://lh3.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDiVVrC0I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/Y9U0nkRhFcU/DSC00163.JPG
http://lh6.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDtFVrC_I/AAAAAAAAAFo/I5Yg1-F5zIs/DSC00174.JPG

Jeroen669
February 14th, 2008, 04:01 PM
In the Netherlands they mean something like: be careful, dangerous situation ahead.

KIWIKAAS
February 16th, 2008, 04:01 PM
In the UK the zig zags mean there is a pedrestrian crossing.

josema_call
February 16th, 2008, 07:57 PM
Mateo, I thaught that Alhambra was placed in GRanada (Spain), not in Manchester area :)

http://http://lh4.google.co.uk/mateuszw90/R7LDxlVrDEI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/XaAa_X7ji2o/DSC00179.JPG?

ChrisZwolle
February 16th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Alhambra exists in many countries. Los Angeles has a suburb named Alhambra :)

Alex Von Königsberg
February 16th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Sacramento has Alhambra Blvd that runs parallel to Business-80 in downtown area :)

TheCat
February 16th, 2008, 09:21 PM
In the UK the zig zags mean there is a pedrestrian crossing.

Thanks for clarifying :).

ChrisZwolle
February 16th, 2008, 09:36 PM
This will be my commuter route from October. I can take my bicycle since it's only 2,5 km, that's like 8 - 10 minutes, saves me up to half an hour one way :)

http://i28.tinypic.com/sn12d1.jpg

Booze
February 16th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Alhambra exists in many countries. Los Angeles has a suburb named Alhambra :)

Alhambra it's not a town but a palace-monument

http://updatecenter.britannica.com/eb/image?binaryId=92887&rendTypeId=4

Cicerón
February 17th, 2008, 04:15 PM
^^ Yes, but there are some places called Alhambra (probably named after that palace). :)