provela sam tamo 2 sedmice, vidjela mnogo toga, ali sad nekako ne znam odakle da počnem... možda po svom starom, dobrom običaju, sa postanjem sličica... krenimo od grada koji se zove Spišske Podhradie u kojem su čak dva objekta pod UNESCO zaštitom (Spišsky Hrad - kažu da je to najveća tvrđava srednje Evrope i Spišska Kapitula):

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suuuuper slike

wooow nice!

krasne slike Beca preljepo:bow:, volio bih posjetiti Slovačku..

odlicno Beco :okay:
samo nastavi dalje :)

Divan dvorac! :)

hej super slike Beco!! :D

lijepa je Slovačka, ali nikako se ne mogu oteti pomisli na film Hostel :D

Super beco, nadam se samo da nece izazavati buru kao tvoj prosli Eu thread:)
i daj malo teksta kako ti je bilo kako si dozivjela sta ti se svidja , ne svidja i sl.

inace to sranje od filma hostel, je cist primijer predrasuda.

^^ me knowz : )

enihu, Hostel 2 mi je bolji od prvog dijela :tongue3:

yeah, Beca, de malo experience ;)

hvala na lijepim komentarima... i ja se nadam da se neće pojaviti hrpa Slovaka da mi bombarduju thread frustrirajućim komentarima

a utisci... ukratko, Slovačka mi se jako svidjela, ljudi su mnogo topliji i duhovitiji u odnosu na moju prethodnu predstavu o njima... priroda je lijepa, posebno taj sjeverni i središnji dio, gradovi su lijepi, mada ne izgledaju mnogo uređenije od balkanskih, dok su im sela daleko uređenija... čak sam prolazila i kroz neka ciganska sela koja bi djelovala i elitno da im ne nedostaje stila...

imaju jako dobre informacione sisteme vezane za saobraćaj, redove vožnje vozova, autobusa, aviona, sms podršku za sve i svašta, jako dobre sireve (prije svega bryndza, korbačik, te raznorazni pljesnivi), fanstasticne slatkiše (čokolade sa visokim postotkom kakaa, brend Figaro koji proizvodi sve i svašta, čokolade na bazi soje, mnogo koriste kikiriki i rum...)

planine su im prepune ljudi, mi smo sve planinarske staze upoređivali sa Ferhadijom... to je mana, naravno.. drage bosanske planine, nema ih nigdje na svijetu "planinskijih" od naših ;)

cijene slične našim, možda malo niže

eto, ako se sjetim još čega, dodaću :)

...

pogled na Visoke Tatre:
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željeznička stanica u Ružemberoku:
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selo Vlkolinec (pod UNESCO zaštitom), prvi put pomenuto 1376. godine, smješteno na obroncima planine Velka Fatra... lijepo, ali Lukomir je daleko originalniji, izolovaniji i na boljoj lokaciji (nisam subjektivna, ne, nikako;)):

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prelijepo ! :)

^^AHA stvarno... Onaj forumaš koji je znao posjetiti AA Marek Kvackaj bi isto uživao u tim slikama:)..

prekrasno mi je to selo Vlkolinec.
Inace pozvao bih vas da procitate i komentariste naravno, moje reportaze iz Norveske
iz Osla (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=537675)i put Oslo-Bergen (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=539718), a bice ih jos.
Beco izvini na reklami:) dodjem ti kafu:)

Izvrsna reportaža! ;)

hej super slike Beco!! :D

lijepa je Slovačka, ali nikako se ne mogu oteti pomisli na film Hostel :D

HAHAHAHA Ukrade mi rijec iz usta :lol::lol::lol:

Nije sad Slovacka neka zemlja da kazes wooow :)

Btw: bio sam sa skolom u Ceskoj u Karlovy vary gledali kako se snima james bond:nuts: Samo su Cehkinje extra:)

Cool photo report Beca. :okay:

hvala svima na komentarima

nastavljam sa Banskom Štiavnicom za koju, da budemo iskreni, nikad ranije nisam čula, a grad je nastao u 11-om vijeku, kompletno je pod UNESCO zaštitom i fakat je prekrasan... svoju historiju i bogatstvo bazira na preradi zlata...
u gradu je i botanički vrt star 250 godina sa prekrasnim primjercima starih stabala, čak i onih gigantskih čija je domovina Sjeverna Amerika i Japan... kao zaljubljeniku u prirodu, ne moram napominjati da je taj vrt, za mene, nešto najljepše u gradu :) nažalost, slike iz vrta su uglavnom i sa osobama, tako da ih neću objavljivati

moje slike iz ovog grada generalno nisu čemu, ali šta je tu je:

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Prekrasna fotoreportaža! Nisam mogao vjerovati da je Slovačka ovako lijepa! Hvala ti što si ovo podijelila s nama! :)

Prekrasna fotoreprtaža! Nisam mogap vjerovati da je Slovačka ovako lijepa! Hvala ti što si ovo podijelila s nama! :)

hvala, Harise... i mene je Slovačka dosta iznenadila, valjda mi imamo predrasude prema tim ex-socijalističkim zeljama misleći kako je Jugoslavija bila najrazvijenija među njima... možda i jeste, ali ne zaboravimo da su BiH i Makedonija u toj istoj Jugi bile crne ovce... dok su slovačka sela uvijek izgledala lijepo, uredno, kulturno, ne znam da li se iko sjeća 80% bosanskih sela od prije 15 godina (prljava, bez vodovoda, kanalizacije, asfalta, struja jedva dovoljna za sijalicu, bez telefona, svijest i obrazovanje seljaka gotovo na nuli...)

prekrasni srednjeevropski barok :)

Lijepe slike :okay:. Jel imaš možda slike moderne Bratislave?

imam ja nekih od bratislave,al sam ovak
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a moram i Petržalku metnut :D
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^^ u Bratislavi sam provela čak 4 noći, ali sam grad svega jedanput obišla danju, a i to je bilo u poslijepodnevnim satima... slike ću postovati, ali ne očekujte mnogo

sam ulazak u Bratislavu je za mene bio fascinirajući... stigla sam vozom i, išavši od Petržalke ka centru grada, prelazivši preko Dunava, ukazao se krasan prizor - novi moderni most, prekrasno osvijetljen, a iza njega osvijetljena tvrđava i ostala svjetla grada.... prekrasno...

grad kao grad - onako... pošto ja svaki grad poredim sa Sarajevom, moram reći da je Sarajevo daleko ljepše, a nije ništa manje uređeno od Bratislave... turista je mnogo više u Sarajevu, a ono što sam ih vidjela tamo su uglavnom Britanci koji su došli da se jeftino provode

drugim riječima - glavni grad izgleda gore od ostatka države

hvala, Harise... i mene je Slovačka dosta iznenadila, valjda mi imamo predrasude prema tim ex-socijalističkim zeljama misleći kako je Jugoslavija bila najrazvijenija među njima... možda i jeste, ali ne zaboravimo da su BiH i Makedonija u toj istoj Jugi bile crne ovce... dok su slovačka sela uvijek izgledala lijepo, uredno, kulturno, ne znam da li se iko sjeća 80% bosanskih sela od prije 15 godina (prljava, bez vodovoda, kanalizacije, asfalta, struja jedva dovoljna za sijalicu, bez telefona, svijest i obrazovanje seljaka gotovo na nuli...)
Mislim da si ovdje potpuno upravu kad se govori o nasim predrasudama prema ex komunistickim zemljama. Slovacka je toliko dugo bila pod austrijom da bi bilo i cudno da ne izgleda ovako, tako da svaki slovacki grad i gradic je klasicno austrougarsko mjesto. U komunizmu je dosta toga bilo zapusteno, ali se sve to sad obnavlja. Bio sam u Slovackoj 3 puta i svidja mi se ta zemlja.
Sto se tice bosanskih sela tu se ne bih slozio, bar mislim na sela oko Banja Luke i u toj regiji. Vodovod, struja, telefon, asfalt, skole i sl. postoje i postojala su u njima. A pogotovo nije tacno to da su prljava.

^^ u Bratislavi sam provela čak 4 noći, ali sam grad svega jedanput obišla danju, a i to je bilo u poslijepodnevnim satima... slike ću postovati, ali ne očekujte mnogo

sam ulazak u Bratislavu je za mene bio fascinirajući... stigla sam vozom i, išavši od Petržalke ka centru grada, prelazivši preko Dunava, ukazao se krasan prizor - novi moderni most, prekrasno osvijetljen, a iza njega osvijetljena tvrđava i ostala svjetla grada.... prekrasno...

grad kao grad - onako... pošto ja svaki grad poredim sa Sarajevom, moram reći da je Sarajevo daleko ljepše, a nije ništa manje uređeno od Bratislave... turista je mnogo više u Sarajevu, a ono što sam ih vidjela tamo su uglavnom Britanci koji su došli da se jeftino provode

drugim riječima - glavni grad izgleda gore od ostatka države
Centar Bratislave je po meni dosta uredjeniji i odmjereniji od Sarajeva. sto se tice turizma i turista u Bratislavi ima ih, ali vecinski se to svede na shopping turiste iz susjedne austrije. Tako da austrijance najceswce vidite i cujete u trznim centrima, po centru ih slabo ima, tek poneki posjecuju restorane, a kulturne znamenitosti nikoga ne interesuju.

Inace vidim po ovim slikama da su ostali gradovi u odnosu na bratislavu zapusteniji i nesredjeniji.

@astralis imas ovdje moju reportazu iz bratislave (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=418723&highlight=bratislava+iz+mog+ugla)pa mozda nadjes nesto interesantno

jako lijepo, krasna reportaža:okay:!

Inace vidim po ovim slikama da su ostali gradovi u odnosu na bratislavu zapusteniji i nesredjeniji.

Slažem se. Bratislava je super sređena i grad je stvarno fantastičan. Koliko se nebodera dosad izgradilo i koliko se gradi je jednostavno zapanjujuće za jedan grad od pol milje stanovnika. Inače to su moji dojmovi iz 2004. godine, a vjerujem da je sada grad još bolji i moderniji nego što je onda bio.

^^ jeste, ima dosta modernih zgrada, medjutim razbacane su po gradu pa se ne dobije bas prevelik dojam, ako se ne obidje citav grad.
Inace bratislava je klasican austrougrasko-komunisticko-tranzicijski grad, stara jezgra-komi naselja (jako nekavlitetne i ruzne zgrade)-dobri trzni centri i poslovne zgrade.

Ružemberok, Banska Štiavnica, Stary Smokovec, Banska Bystrica itd. su daleko uređeniji od Bratislave... U Bratislavi je samo najuži centar popločan kako treba, fasade rijetko gdje obnavljaju... a u odnosu na Sarajevo, ne nudi ništa pretjerano zanimljivo... čak i sami stanovnici Bratislave ne smatraju svoj grad posebnim, a oni koji su ikada posjetili Sarajevo ne dvoje oko odnosa u ljepoti i ponudi

to su moji dojmovi... nažalost, neću moći sve potkrijepiti slikama, jer smo mi po Bratislavi uglavnom kružili noću, u društvu sa Slovacima koji su nam u neku ruku bili i vodiči

shopping centri im jesu daleko veći i bolji, sa daleko bogatijom ponudom... dok se recimo kod nas teško može naći adekvatna sportska oprema, kod njih je to na svakom uglu... doduše, kod nas i nema adekvatnih sportista, pa ni rekreativaca, pa možda u tome leže razlozi

^^ kako nema sportista:)
centar bratislave je po meni bas sredjen. pogledaj i moje slike ako zelis. a drugi gradovi, bar po tvojim slikama ne djeluju svjeze kao bratislava.

tvoja reportaža iz Bratislave je super... sjećanjem na tvoje slike sam Slovake i napominjala da nas odvedu na sva ta mjesta :)

ima kod nas dobrih sportista, ali su oni, u odnosu na masu, ipak izuzeci... koliko Slovaci, Česi, pa i Poljaci vole sport shvatiš kada odeš na njihove rijeke, na njihova jezera, u njihove sportske centre, planine da i ne pominjem

Poljska recimo ima samo jedan dio Visokih Tatra i neka brdašca oko njih, ostatak zemlje je a la Nizozemska - čista ravnica.... a u prosjeku, po statistici, svaki Poljak makar jedanput posjeti Tatre, da ne pominjem koliko ima profesionalnih penjača... a ja se onda sjetim bosanskih planina i Bosanaca.. nas samo Jadran interesuje :)

^^ to jeste sto se tice jadrana, mada lagano i planine postaju popularne, pogotoo skijanje.
opet se ne bih slozio s bavljenjem sportom, jer u mom okruzenju svi su bar nekad nesto trenirali.
a nasih sportista ima zaista vrhunskih samo su rasuti na mnogo reprezentacija:)
drago mi je da je moja reportaza pomogla:)

Slažem se sa Becom. I ja sam bio u Bratislavi i nije mi se nešto osobito svidjela. Možda baš zato sam imao pogrešnu predrasudu o ostatku Slovačke. I da dodam da je ona fotoreportaža iz Bratislave koju je napravio BL super kao uostalom i sa svih ostalih njegovih putovanja.

Prekrasne slike Beca...
Da smo mi neki malo tolerantniji narodi imali bi isto tako lijepa mjesta, ali eto svako dobije ono sta zasluzi...

Prelijepo.

Zamisljao sam Slovacke gradove kao bezbroj commie blokova sa jadno odrzavanim starim jezgrama. Sela su me jos vise iznenadila... zaista prelijepo.

Hvala na reportazi.:)

Beca, thanx for nice pictures from Slovakia!

It seems to me you know more from my country than myself.

^^ thanks for watching my pictures... i believe there are many other Slovak places worth to visit as well

hvala svima na komentarima, nastavljam sa (starim) selima/gradovima ispod Visokih Tatra - Tatranska Javorina i Stary Smokovec + posljednja slika iz Popradi, definitivno najružnijeg Slovačkog grada kroz koji sam prošla:

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Beca , reportaza ti je mrak ,a fotke prekrasne :master:...bio sam i u Bratislavi i u Košicama, al dosta davno :cry: ...sjecam se u Kosicama sam u izlogu vidio plocu Ljupke Dimitrovske :lol: ...tada su oni bili daleko iza nasih zemalja ,ponuda svega je bila mizerna ,a dojam sivila i siromastva je bio vise nego ocit na svakom koraku!
Drago mi je da se Slovacka jako razvila :okay:

^^ hvala na komentaru i pohvalama :)

ja idem dalje sa kojom sličicom iz slovačke metropole:

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i, za kraj - Čumil ;)

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Bio sam u Bratislavi mnogo puta i zaista je prekrasan grad, ali najvise sam se iznenadio prvi put kad sam bio, svaka zgrada u centru je imala fasadu i plocice sredjene, kao da si u Austriji..Beca postavi slike glavnih ulica :)

Kao osnovnoškolac sam puno puta bio na skijanju u Vysokym Tatrama. Dobro se sjećam mnogobrojnih izleta u Kežmarok i Poprad. U Kežmaroku su me kroz par godina čak 3 puta pokušali opljačkati Romi kojih tamo u sjevernom djelu Slovačke ima najviše u Europi(izuzmemo li Rumunjsku). Žao mi je što sada nemam slike commie blokova koji se nalaze na putu između Mlynčeka i Kežmaroka, a koje je Slovačka vlada izgradila za Rome. Izgledaju zbilja smješno jer imaju gole otvorene prozorske okvire bez stakala, pa ih cigići za vrijeme zime prekrivaju kartonima. U zanimljivom sjećanju su mi ostale i hokejaške utakmice u popradskoj areni gdje domaći navijači navijaju tako da prozivaju igrača po igrača protivničke momčadi i nakon prezimena jednoglasno uzvikuju "ti je mater kurva".:lol: Mi Hrvati smo se uvijek čudili kako je šoping u slovačkoj bio na jednoj razini iznad naše, imali su jednostavno sve, dok mi još nismo mogli zamisliti iole ozbiljniju nabavku bez puta u Graz. Uvijek smo se čudili i izrugivali njihovim cjenama koje su nam bile smješno male, pa smo znali biti zaista bahati i u restoranima bi nerijetko davali veće napojnice no što je koštao sam obrok. Smiješni natpisi na svakom drugom izlogu hračky(igračke), strava(hrana), napoj(sok) itd., puno neonacista i skinjara; jednom su nas skoro pretukli jer smo ušli sa crncem u disko, i isto toliko bradatih Srba; isto incident u redu za hot-dog(10sk=2kn) na hokejaškoj utakmici kada je zbog vrijeđanja s njihove strane naš učitelj skijanja odlučio "fizički urazumiti četnika", i naravno prva ljubavna iskustva, sve je to za mene Slovačka.:cheers:

Sarkasticni , ja bih josh dodao da su Slovaci i Cesi ...nebo i zemlja razlika :yes:
Slovaci su ratoborni, tvrdoglavi, divlji, muski rod ima vlast nad zenama dok je kod Ceha sve obrnuto ..govor im je pi*kast, zene vladaju, miroljubivi su narod !
Kad se raspadala Cehoslovacka ...Cesi su pristajali na sve uvjete ,a Slovaci kojih je duplo manje su bili za sve opcije sam da bude po njihovom :D

SS, tvoj post baš emocionalan :)

Tony, ja ne bih rekla da je razlika baš baš tolika... I ne vidim šta su Slovaci bolje izvukli nego Česi nakon razdvajanja...

Odlične fotke! :bow:

Sarkasticni , ja bih josh dodao da su Slovaci i Cesi ...nebo i zemlja razlika :yes:
Slovaci su ratoborni, tvrdoglavi, divlji, muski rod ima vlast nad zenama dok je kod Ceha sve obrnuto ..govor im je pi*kast, zene vladaju, miroljubivi su narod !
Kad se raspadala Cehoslovacka ...Cesi su pristajali na sve uvjete ,a Slovaci kojih je duplo manje su bili za sve opcije sam da bude po njihovom :D

Na nesto me ovo podseca ....;)

Hvala Beca na slikama, odlicne su:okay:
I ja sam prvi put u Slovackoj bio ove godine, ali samo u Bratislavi i to samo smo jednu noc proveli . Moram reci da nisam stekao neki dobar utisak, ali mozda zato sto sam ocekivao nesto slicno Ljubljani. Ne vredi ici u detalje posto ste vi vec sve rekli:yes:

Nego, samo jedna stvar...mozda moje najjezivije iskustvo ove 2007-e godine...
Vracamo se dva prijatelja i ja sa privatne zurke u Petrzalci nazad do naseg hotela u centru, i taman da predjemo Novi Most, kad ja ugledam okom novi Apolo most. Pratio sam izgradnju tog mosta na SSC-u celih godinu-dve koliko im je trebalo da ga postave , pa sam po svaku cenu hteo da iskoristim priliku da ga pogledam iz blizine. I tako na moje inistiranje, mi sidjosmo sa Novog Mosta i krenemo put Apola. Vreme...2-3 posle ponoci.
Iako su samo par stotina metara udaljeni jedan od drugog, mislim da je to bila najduza setnja mog zivota:yes;

Mrkli mrak, ni prst pred sobom ne mozes da vidis, ceo put je u nekakvoj sumi bez ikakvog osvetljenja , a sa strane puta se stalno cuje nekakvo suskanje u grmlju dok psi zavijaju negde u blizini. Iako ni mrtve duse nije bilo oko nas, imali smo nekakav utisak kao da nas neko pomno gleda i prati...

Secam se jos samo da cim je neko spomenuo rec "Hostel" (kultni horor film Eli Roth-a, sniman u Bratislavi i okruzenju) , svi smo se dali u sprint prema prvom svetlu u daljini - mislim da me tada ni Ben Johnson ne bi stigao:lol:

Apolo sa leve, Novy Most sa desne.....i djungla izmedju njih.
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Hvala Beca na slikama, odlicne su:okay:
I ja sam prvi put u Slovackoj bio ove godine, ali samo u Bratislavi i to samo smo jednu noc proveli . Moram reci da nisam stekao neki dobar utisak, ali mozda zato sto sam ocekivao nesto slicno Ljubljani. Ne vredi ici u detalje posto ste vi vec sve rekli:yes:

Nego, samo jedna stvar...mozda moje najjezivije iskustvo ove 2007-e godine...
Vracamo se dva prijatelja i ja sa privatne zurke u Petrzalci nazad do naseg hotela u centru, i taman da predjemo Novi Most, kad ja ugledam okom novi Apolo most. Pratio sam izgradnju tog mosta na SSC-u celih godinu-dve koliko im je trebalo da ga postave , pa sam po svaku cenu hteo da iskoristim priliku da ga pogledam iz blizine. I tako na moje inistiranje, mi sidjosmo sa Novog Mosta i krenemo put Apola. Vreme...2-3 posle ponoci.
Iako su samo par stotina metara udaljeni jedan od drugog, mislim da je to bila najduza setnja mog zivota:yes;

Mrkli mrak, ni prst pred sobom ne mozes da vidis, ceo put je u nekakvoj sumi bez ikakvog osvetljenja , a sa strane puta se stalno cuje nekakvo suskanje u grmlju dok psi zavijaju negde u blizini. Iako ni mrtve duse nije bilo oko nas, imali smo nekakav utisak kao da nas neko pomno gleda i prati...

Secam se jos samo da cim je neko spomenuo rec "Hostel" (kultni horor film Eli Roth-a, sniman u Bratislavi i okruzenju) , svi smo se dali u sprint prema prvom svetlu u daljini - mislim da me tada ni Ben Johnson ne bi stigao:lol:

Apolo sa leve, Novy Most sa desne.....i djungla izmedju njih.
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Last time i was in Slovakia they had only one sort of bread, no malls, ugly façades, poverty on every corner. But that was in 1989, i was 2 years old (i saw pictures and father told me a lot).
But as far I know poverty is still a big issue in Slovakia. Bratislava and major tourist attractions look nice and modern, but once you are out from this centres things change.
Same goes to Poland and Czech Republic which i visited this year.

But it is nice to see, that these countries are developing sooo fast:):cheers:

Just one question. While reading this post, I found this:

grad kao grad - onako... pošto ja svaki grad poredim sa Sarajevom, moram reći da je Sarajevo daleko ljepše, a nije ništa manje uređeno od Bratislave... turista je mnogo više u Sarajevu, a ono što sam ih vidjela tamo su uglavnom Britanci koji su došli da se jeftino provode

I don't know if I understood it correctly, does is mean that Sarajevo is better than Bratislava and there is more tourists in Sarajevo?

I am just curious, I have nothing against Sarajevo, either BiH generally. I just never knew that tourists are even visiting Sarajevo, and even more that Bratislava :) and never thought that Sarajevo can ... compare ... with Bratislava in terms of tourism.

So I am just curious, if anybody knows, how many tourists visited Sarajevo for example last year? And, what is interesting to see in Sarajevo? Maybe I would like to come to visit. I did not see any historical centre on the pictures.

Thank you very much :)

edit: maybe I had generally wrong opinion of Sarajevo because of the civil war in 90s and thought it was seriously damaged...

Just one question. While reading this post, I found this:

grad kao grad - onako... pošto ja svaki grad poredim sa Sarajevom, moram reći da je Sarajevo daleko ljepše, a nije ništa manje uređeno od Bratislave... turista je mnogo više u Sarajevu, a ono što sam ih vidjela tamo su uglavnom Britanci koji su došli da se jeftino provode

I don't know if I understood it correctly, does is mean that Sarajevo is better than Bratislava and there is more tourists in Sarajevo?

I am just curious, I have nothing against Sarajevo, either BiH generally. I just never knew that tourists are even visiting Sarajevo, and even more that Bratislava :) and never thought that Sarajevo can ... compare ... with Bratislava in terms of tourism.

So I am just curious, if anybody knows, how many tourists visited Sarajevo for example last year? And, what is interesting to see in Sarajevo? Maybe I would like to come to visit. I did not see any historical centre on the pictures.

Thank you very much :)

edit: maybe I had generally wrong opinion of Sarajevo because of the civil war in 90s and thought it was seriously damaged...

Yeah I had a Slovakian girlfriend for 4 years so I spent alot of time in Bratislava. When I was first visiting, I thought it would be some communist soviet hell with poor people everywhere, same bias you have towards Sarajevo. I was surprised that the city is wealthy and clean for the most part and the historic center is nice, I have pictures, maybe I will post them once..However I do not know if Sarajevo gets more tourists, probably around the same amount, even though Bratislava is right next to Vienna and thats a great advantage, still Im not sure so Ill call it a tie. As far as Sarajevo's historical center, well we have one, Its very similar to Bratislava, the Central European arhitecture, in addition we also have a old Ottoman style old center that is unique in Europe, the whole European Jeruselam thing with 4 major faits converging in a radius of 2 kilometers.. thats a big advantage for Sarajevo because we already have the center like Bratislava anyway and if you are into Central European centers, then visitng Prague, Budapest, or Vienne would be more rewarding..

Slovaks know little about Bosnia and Bosnians know little about Slovakia and Im sure each thinks the other is at the end of the world...

^^ thank you very much for the explanation :)

I also would like to understand this, cause I don't think if I understood it correctly. Can anyone please translate it into English?

Sarkasticni , ja bih josh dodao da su Slovaci i Cesi ...nebo i zemlja razlika :yes:
Slovaci su ratoborni, tvrdoglavi, divlji, muski rod ima vlast nad zenama dok je kod Ceha sve obrnuto ..govor im je pi*kast, zene vladaju, miroljubivi su narod !
Kad se raspadala Cehoslovacka ...Cesi su pristajali na sve uvjete ,a Slovaci kojih je duplo manje su bili za sve opcije sam da bude po njihovom :D

(I feel that it is nothing positive about Slovakia, but I would like to know it anyway...)

Wizzard... it is just my personal opinion... from my point of view, Sarajevo is much more interesting (in historical and every other) place than Bratislava... Bratislava is a classical middle-European city, Sarajevo is everything but not classical...surrounded by mountains, Olympic city, the best candidate for European Jerusalem, full of contrasts... but ok, everybody has its own point of view... I don't have prejudices, I like Slovakia much, but I believe that people, who didn't visit some place, can't try to compare that place with some others...

no hard feelings, but I don't share tonycro's point of view...

Dont want to know what it means :)
But it seems like there is judgement about the Hostel movie, which clearly doesnt show the true face of Bratislava.
I like the way how Sarajevo is comming out from the problems after war.
After czech and slovak republic separation there was few years of not building and so, than came the new way of developing, banks and building. bratislava is on its start to grow to classical european metropol. i think sarajevo is in similar situation.
btw this what wizzard quoted is something like both-side meaning about people in countries - if you dont know them, you think they must be managed by the situation. i met some people from sarajevo during the war, and i took them as wild too. but it doesnt mean that the whole nation is same.

Wizzard... it is just my personal opinion... from my point of view, Sarajevo is much more interesting (in historical and every other) place than Bratislava... Bratislava is a classical middle-European city, Sarajevo is everything but not classical...surrounded by mountains, Olympic city, the best candidate for European Jerusalem, full of contrasts... but ok, everybody has its own point of view... I don't have prejudices, I like Slovakia much, but I believe that people, who didn't visit some place, can't try to compare that place with some others...

no hard feelings, but I don't share tonycro's point of view...
Yeah for example bratislava doesnt have mosque :)

Yeah for example bratislava doesnt have mosque :)

nor Orthodox Churches, active sinagogues....;)

nor Orthodox Churches, active sinagogues....;)
No, there are synagogues, and orthodox churches too.
Only the orthodox religion is not so popular in bratislava, so it doesnt have so large comunity like roman catholic. about synagogues - one was destroyed by building of the New bridge in communism, other still work (i know about two, maybe there are more). And orthodox church is one being built, other work.

I don't like such discussions, rather to back to the topic...

pogled na Visoke Tatre:

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u Slovačkoj gotovo pa dominiraju kuće sa krovovima "na 4 vode" baš kao i ovdje :)

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bio je to period gljiva...

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ja prosto nisam mogla prestati da se okrećem i hvatam kadrove moćnih Tatra:

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Bosna je druga ili treća država Evrope po procentualnoj zastupljenosti šuma... Slovačka sigurno nije daleko od nas:

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Tomašovsky Vyhlad:

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Slovensky raj je pun ovakvih roklina uređenih još 60-tih godina... radi se o ogromnom prostoru, mi smo posjetili samo jedan mali dio:

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i opet malo Visokih Tatra:

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i odosmo...

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its central europe :) orthodox is more on east of Slovakia, but bratislava has strong jewish community.

No, there are synagogues, and orthodox churches too.
Only the orthodox religion is not so popular in bratislava, so it doesnt have so large comunity like roman catholic. about synagogues - one was destroyed by building of the New bridge in communism, other still work (i know about two, maybe there are more). And orthodox church is one being built, other work.

but in Sarajevo, all those objects are in the radius of 200m... that's the point

in that way, we could count also Jehovi's church in Grbavica district or...

btw really nice pictures :)

its central europe :) orthodox is more on east of Slovakia, but bratislava has strong jewish community.

aha, I was in Jewish district without active sinagogue or Jews

btw really nice pictures :)

thanks... pictures are average, the country itself is nice... I just said that Bratislava doesn't show the whole beauty of the country... Bratislava is not a good example of that how the country generally looks...

Have you seen Chatam Sófer memorial? :)

Beca, why do you write in Bosnian when you know it will also interest Slovaks? :) And a while back Bulgarians. :D

but in Sarajevo, all those objects are in the radius of 200m... that's the point

in that way, we could count also Jehovi's church in Grbavica district or...
Same like in Bratislava catholic churches and other objects. it depends on that in which part of europe u are. bratislava is interesting by the mix of long living nations there - hungarian, austrian, czech and slovak, which cultures are deeply mixed in this town. Yes, bratislava is not very colourful by religional way, but by the national way sure.
Sarajevo is unique by its way, Bratislava by its. Last very interesting town i visited in summer was lefkosia on Cyprus, where is the mix religional, national, and historical too. and the developement there is huge too.

Have you seen Chatam Sófer memorial? :)

no, I haven't... if I understood well, it's somewhere outside of the old town

aha, I was in Jewish district without active sinagogue or Jews
Its not so easy to find them, because they are deep integrated :) and there are active synagogues, only not so much maybe as in sarajevo.http://www.slovak-jewish-heritage.org/obr/monumenty/header/1222.jpg
http://www.slovak-jewish-heritage.org/obr/monumenty/main/110.jpg

beca opet stvaras probleme:)
if someone didn´t understand well i like to say that beca wrote almost all good things about Slovakia, the only thing that she doesn´t find especially nice is Bratislava, but she didn´t say it is ugly or something like that, she just said that the rest of the country is more beautiful.
eto izvini beca ako umjesto tebe odgovaram, ali mislim da je doslo do nesporazuma.
btw tatre su wow! a kakve su ono stepenice? djeluju nesigurno i zastrasujuce

Beca, why do you write in Bosnian when you know it will also interest Slovaks? :) And a while back Bulgarians. :D

this is not the report made for Slovaks (they already know their own country) but for Bosnians/Croatians/Slovenians and others... so I am using my beloved ;) Bosnian language...

and again, my intentions are not to make a black report no matter of the language I use

btw, after some days spent in SK, I understood their language a bit ;)

beca opet stvaras probleme:)
if someone didn´t understand well i like to say that beca wrote almost all good things about Slovakia, the only thing that she doesn´t find especially nice is Bratislava, but she didn´t say it is ugly or something like that, she just said that the rest of the country is more beautiful.
eto izvini beca ako umjesto tebe odgovaram, ali mislim da je doslo do nesporazuma.
btw tatre su wow! a kakve su ono stepenice? djeluju nesigurno i zastrasujuce
:) i understood her good.

Bratislava has those awsome festivals for the coronation of Habsburg kings, I was present at two of those, always like at end of August or begining of September, I dont remeber well, but thats the best time to visit Bratislava. Its looks very authentic too, once they even had a Turkish Jannisarry delegation or smt. I also spent most of my time in Slovakia in Martin, boring small town but wonderfull nature and villages around it, the Turiec region, btw the best Slovakian attraction was the castle in Prievidze. I got the full tour, it was awsome, I have pictures, Ill try to post them when Im not busy...

Old town has not so much synagogues, because the mainly centre of this community was destroyed by building of the bridge - and this wasnt in the old town, but behind the town walls. only one synagogue which is active in old town is on the pictures in previous post.

:) i understood her good.
not u, but the other guy.

this is not the report made for Slovaks (they already know their own country) but for Bosnians/Croatians/Slovenians and others... so I am using my beloved ;) Bosnian language...

and again, my intentions are not to make a black report no matter of the language I use

btw, after some days spent in SK, I understood their language a bit ;)

Is there the Bosnian language? I didnot know that... Forget it.

Beca, go ahead with the pictures!!!

^^ dont start with that language topic, than the tread could be locked soon :)

^^ dont start with that language topic, than the tread could be locked soon :)

I want to see pictures!!!

Is there the Bosnian language? I didnot know that... Forget it.

Beca, go ahead with the pictures!!!

Wow, yeah well its strange you say that since there is no difference between Czech or Slovak.. :lol:

Wow, yeah well its strange you say that since there is no difference between Czech or Slovak.. :lol:
Your language is quite good understandable for us :)

Wow, yeah well its strange you say that since there is no difference between Czech or Slovak.. :lol:

Sorry, I apologize... I didnot realize that language question can be so sensitive here...

Wow, Slovakia is very beautiful indeed! Even nicer than I thought! :happy:

Unfortunately, I've only visited Bratislava a year ago in May and I have to admit I was a bit disappointed, the city centre is nice but it was disappointing seeing all those facades not taken care of outside the city centre, especially on the way to the castle.. However I had just spent a couple of days in Vienna prior to my visit, so that might be the reason why. After seeing these pictures though, I feel tempted to visit the country again, and soon as well! :)

Great work, Beca! :okay:

Oh and a little correction - the three most forested countries in Europe are Finland, Sweden (both around 70-80%), Slovenia (around 60%), but I'm sure Slovakia and Bosnia are very close! I think Bosnia has around half? Still very large amounts of forest compared to most European countries, though!

Sorry, I apologize... I didnot realize that language question can be so sensitive here...
on the Balkan everything is sensitive:) :cheers::lol:

Na nesto me ovo podseca ....;)

Nije stvar kojom se možete ponositi :ohno:
u biti da si pametan nebi to niti spominjao :bash:

I am sorry that I am returning to this topic, but I just found these info:

Bratislava, from Wikipedia:
In 2006, a total of 686,201 visitors, 454,870 of whom were foreigners, stayed overnight. Altogether, visitors made 1,338,497 overnight stays.

I did not find any info about Sarajevo, I just find this about Zagreb:
Since the end of the war, it has attracted around half a million visitors annually, mainly from Austria, Germany and Italy

I don't want to say anything, I just found it and maybe it will be interesting. (not talking that I don't understand most of the conversation here and maybe I should not :))

Lijepe slike Bratislave Beco ali nigdje nema slika novog dijela Bratislave :cry:. Hoću nebodere :D :rant: :D!

Nije stvar kojom se možete ponositi :ohno:
u biti da si pametan nebi to niti spominjao :bash:

Pusti ga. Vidiš da gleda svaku moguću priliku da prca u zdrav mozak. Trolovima najviše smeta kad ih se ignorira. :cheers:

Nije stvar kojom se možete ponositi :ohno:
u biti da si pametan nebi to niti spominjao :bash:

Izgleda da si me pogresno shvatio.
Ne znam cime bi ja to trebao da se ponosim, jednostavno sam rekao da me ta situacija u Ceskoj/Slovackoj koju je Toni tako lepo opisao, na nesto podseca. Uopste nisam rekao na sta;)

Mada vidim da si razumeo na sta sam mislio pa eto, nisam ni morao da kazem.

Nema tu uopste nikakvog ponosa, ali ima necega drugog....priznajem da mi je u neku ruku milo sto nismo bas tako sami kao sto smo mislili u nasoj patnji od tkzv. balkanskog sindromai;)

drago mi je za tebe miloše

na ovoj planini sam provela svoje najbolje dane u Slovačkoj... subjektivno ili ne, to je moje najdraže mjesto tamo... inače, i grb na zastavi Slovačke simbolizira njihova 3 najveća (a možda i jedina) lanca planina - Tatra, Fatra i Matra, s tim što je Matra najmanja i danas je dio Mađarske:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1659/godisnji082309200704112ft7.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1264/godisnji082309200710021bi9.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1152/godisnji082309200710221ao7.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5923/godisnji082309200710271vf2.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2069/godisnji082309200710361ap5.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7454/godisnji082309200710351cs9.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/438/godisnji082309200710511zt0.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6002/godisnji082309200711001ud7.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/320/godisnji082309200711151zp5.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/989/godisnji082309200711161zd4.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9488/godisnji082309200711221hs3.jpg


vrh Krivan - simbol Slovacke i Slovaka:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3315/godisnji082309200711761po0.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4219/godisnji082309200712061ot8.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7853/godisnji082309200711961gf0.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9250/godisnji082309200712011va4.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6638/godisnji082309200712121gl1.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7381/godisnji082309200712191vc1.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9353/godisnji082309200712301ii6.jpg

beca opet stvaras probleme:)
if someone didn´t understand well i like to say that beca wrote almost all good things about Slovakia, the only thing that she doesn´t find especially nice is Bratislava, but she didn´t say it is ugly or something like that, she just said that the rest of the country is more beautiful.
eto izvini beca ako umjesto tebe odgovaram, ali mislim da je doslo do nesporazuma.
btw tatre su wow! a kakve su ono stepenice? djeluju nesigurno i zastrasujuce

hvala, BL, na podršci... elem, ma koliko ti se svidjela neka zemlja, domaćima izgleda nikad nije dovoljno :)

ogroman prostor koji se zove Slovensky raj sadržava bezbroj različitih vrsta šuma, a potoci i rijeke te njihovi kanjoni su pristupačni ovim stepenicama/ljestvama... oni to zovu "rokline".. mada su davno napravljene, dosta su stabilne, samo u jednom momentu sam osjetila strah, jedna stepenica se malo klimala, ali zato se rukama držiš za sajlu pa ti se faktički ništa ne može desiti... turisti (uglavnom Česi, Poljaci, Slovaci, Rumuni, Britanci i Austrijanci) stalno prolaze ovim roklinama

Its not so easy to find them, because they are deep integrated :) and there are active synagogues, only not so much maybe as in sarajevo.http://www.slovak-jewish-heritage.org/obr/monumenty/header/1222.jpg
http://www.slovak-jewish-heritage.org/obr/monumenty/main/110.jpg

it looks nice... as I will visit Slovakia (some of Tatras - High,Low,West still not sure + Bratislava) again in January/February, I will try to meet your city a bit better ;)

Is there the Bosnian language? I didnot know that... Forget it.

Beca, go ahead with the pictures!!!

Bosnian = Serbian = Croatian = Montenegrin language, but as it is not fair to name the language after any of those nations, all of us decided to use a different name...

so, yes, Bosnian is an official language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_language

Tatra, Matra, Fatra to kao neka sega :)

inače, i grb na zastavi Slovačke simbolizira njihova 3 najveća (a možda i jedina) lanca planina - Tatra, Fatra i Matra, s tim što je Matra najmanja i danas je dio Mađarske:

To je povijesna zabluda. Budući da Slovaci nisu imali nacionalne simbole, grb Slovačke je kopiranje grb Mađarske. Ideja da 3 brda simboliziraju Tatru, Fatru, i Matru dolazi iz srednjeg vijeka (XVI. st.), a nema povijesne istine. Značenje ovog simbola (3 brda) je nepoznato.
Inače, Matra nema nikakvu vezu sa Slovačkom, ili slovačkim narodom.

^^ovo samo dokazuje ono što sam već mnogo puta čula - animozitet između Mađara i Slovaka nije ništa manji nego onaj među ex-YU narodima

Bosnian = Serbian = Croatian = Montenegrin language, but as it is not fair to name the language after any of those nations, all of us decided to use a different name...

so, yes, Bosnian is an official language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_language

Thx! I have read through the article. It is interesting.

Btw, nice pictures. Most of those places, I have never visited.

^^ovo samo dokazuje ono što sam već mnogo puta čula - animozitet između Mađara i Slovaka nije ništa manji nego onaj među ex-YU narodima

Da, u tom pogledu balkanskiji smo od Balkana. :D

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5007/godisnji082309200727412sp8.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9766/godisnji082309200728812we6.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9486/godisnji082309200729212nz5.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2559/godisnji082309200729712pi4.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6290/godisnji082309200731012vn7.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2310/godisnji082309200731612op2.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3876/godisnji082309200732712dl8.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6784/godisnji082309200732612jo0.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2707/godisnji082309200732912zb2.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6131/godisnji082309200733112ip1.jpg

^^prekrasno! a sto ti nisu sjele tatre?

Prelijepe slike! :applause:

^^prekrasno! a sto ti nisu sjele tatre?

ma Tatrama je Bog dao sve - šume, potoke, rijeke, vodopade, livade, prekrasne vrhove, stijene, zidove, životinje, biljke.... ali ih ljudi toliko posjećuju da uopšte nemaš osjećaj da si na planini... vazda si u nekim redovima, ni jedne sekunde nemaš mir... ja sam imala osjećaj da sam u nekom velikom prometnom gradu, a upravo ta gradska vreva i frka su i bile razlog početku mog planinarenja... vidjeću u januaru da li je isti slučaj i zimi...

da ne bude zabune, takve su sve popularne planine - Alpe, Rila, Himalaji... zato su naše - bosanske (i možda još samo albanske) planine unique ;)

Prelijepe slike! :applause:

hvala :)

ma Tatrama je Bog dao sve - šume, potoke, rijeke, vodopade, livade, prekrasne vrhove, stijene, zidove, životinje, biljke.... ali ih ljudi toliko posjećuju da uopšte nemaš osjećaj da si na planini... vazda si u nekim redovima, ni jedne sekunde nemaš mir... ja sam imala osjećaj da sam u nekom velikom prometnom gradu, a upravo ta gradska vreva i frka su i bile razlog početku mog planinarenja... vidjeću u januaru da li je isti slučaj i zimi...

da ne bude zabune, takve su sve popularne planine - Alpe, Rila, Himalaji... zato su naše - bosanske (i možda još samo albanske) planine unique ;)
koliko je dobro toliko i ne! bar neke da su nam posjecen zbog novca.

koliko je dobro toliko i ne! bar neke da su nam posjecen zbog novca.

ma da, ove ski centre treba promovisati, oni su svakako već uništeni u smislu prirodnih ljepota i bogatstava... mada je kod nas sreća u nesreći da nas mine čuvaju od masovne komercijalizacije

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7324/godisnji082309200735612an1.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7571/godisnji082309200733512xb6.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2379/godisnji082309200733812st0.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9296/godisnji082309200733412zw8.jpg

pored Visokih Tatri, tu su još Zapadne, Niske i Belianske Tatre...
pogled na Belianske Tatre (kojima je zabranjen pristup):
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1904/godisnji082309200736012vw1.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5462/godisnji082309200736112po1.jpg

inače, i na Visokim Tatrama je mnogo toga zabranjeno - kretanje noću, kretanje van markiranih staza (to ti dođe gore neg' minirano ;)), spavanje u šatorima, penjanje na vrhove zimi itd. itd.)

Visoke Tatre su zapravo mala planina... ali samo kada ih gledaš na mapi, kada se krećeš po njima, imaš osjećaj beskonačnosti... Zato ih lokalci zovu "najveće male planine" :) svo vrijeme na Tatrama, s gotovo bilo koje pozicije, pogled puca na veeeeeliku dolinu koja je apsolutno ravna i koja razdvaja Niske od Visokih Tatra:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2293/godisnji082309200736512fe8.jpg

do nekih vrhova se može i žičarom, ali je cijena užasno visoka:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8130/godisnji082309200737012gg3.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4954/godisnji082309200736912xw6.jpg


vrsta kamena koja prevladava na Tatrama je drugačija nego na velikoj većini balkanskih planina, pa i Alpa... oni je zovu Žuja, a ja nemam pojma koji bi naziv bio u našem jeziku... Himalaji su od istog kamena, malo je tamniji i po sebi ima srasle lišajeve - kad je suh jako je grub, a kad je mokar užasno je klizav:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9893/godisnji082309200738512nv2.jpg

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3553/godisnji082309200745212fv2.jpg

a zasto je zabranjen pristup tim drugim tatrama?

a zasto je zabranjen pristup tim drugim tatrama?

u Slovačkoj su strogi zakoni u prirodi, možda i najstrožiji u Evropi (pored Mađarske, ali oni toga imaju tako malo da moraju da vode računa) a razlog svemu je "očuvanje prirode", pa posvuda vidiš tzv. "čuvare prirode" koji kao policajci stražare da se ne bi desilo da malo "skreneš s puta"... mada ja smatram da se oni mogu nekako "zaobići"

meni to "čuvanje prirode" ranije bilo jasno, al' kad sam vidjela na kojem enormnom nivou je zainteresovanost Čeha i Slovaka za planine, svi zakoni su mi savršeno logični

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5008/godisnji082309200738812za4.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2985/godisnji082309200739812zh4.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7918/godisnji082309200741712wc4.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1372/godisnji082309200742012bz2.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/947/godisnji082309200744212om9.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9813/godisnji082309200744512qt8.jpg

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http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5825/godisnji082309200750512wj0.jpg

^^mocno

Beca, svaka cast na ovoj reportazi. Bas sam uzivao i citajuci i gledajuci.

Beca, how many peaks did you climb in High Tatras?
(I did only one - Slavkovský štít. :sleepy:)

prekrasno beca:applause:, stvarno je zanimljiv kamen:yes:.. btw mislim da sam te več pitao al jesi bila ti u himalaji?

hvala svima na komentarima

Beca, how many peaks did you climb in High Tatras?
(I did only one - Slavkovský štít. :sleepy:)

we started from Tatranska Javorina, then chata pri Zelenom plese, through Velka Svištovka we came to Skalnate Pleso-Mala Studena Dolina-Teryho chata-Zbojnička chata-Stari Smokovec


prekrasno beca:applause:, stvarno je zanimljiv kamen:yes:.. btw mislim da sam te več pitao al jesi bila ti u himalaji?
ma ne, Himalaji su još uvijek samo misaona imenica ;)

ma Tatrama je Bog dao sve - šume, potoke, rijeke, vodopade, livade, prekrasne vrhove, stijene, zidove, životinje, biljke.... ali ih ljudi toliko posjećuju da uopšte nemaš osjećaj da si na planini... vazda si u nekim redovima, ni jedne sekunde nemaš mir... ja sam imala osjećaj da sam u nekom velikom prometnom gradu, a upravo ta gradska vreva i frka su i bile razlog početku mog planinarenja... vidjeću u januaru da li je isti slučaj i zimi...

da ne bude zabune, takve su sve popularne planine - Alpe, Rila, Himalaji... zato su naše - bosanske (i možda još samo albanske) planine unique ;)

Yes you have right Beca.. Tatras and the nearby Slovak Paradise, Low Tatras and Mala Fatra National Parks are highly overcrowded by the tourists..On some popular trails it´s so serious, that you feel like to be in Prague not in nature :ohno:...
Same it is with many historical sights (Spis, Bojnice, Trencin, Krasna Horka) etc. etc.
Everyear your are waiting longer and longer on every ladder in Slovak Paradise (my record is for now about 15 minutes). And this situation is unfortunately without any possible solution, for example payments to the Slovak Paradise didn´t help or almost the whole area of White Tatras (Belianske Tatry) is prohibited to enter but hundreds of tourists don´t care about the restriction and I could name other examples like banned gorges in SP etc.
If Slovakia would propagate itself (because now the country is almost without any propagation) the situation could be uncontrollable..

Btw: Very nice photos, Did you also visited Levoca, Kezmarok and Stara Lubovna Castle when being in the Spis region?

PS: I´d really like to visit someday Bosnian Ranges, I hope that they aren´t so crowded..

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6290/godisnji082309200731012vn7.jpg

Wow what a picture :).



About the environment and tourism issue, I think local environmental care and self-determination could solve a lot of those issues. If its that popular, you can even change the eco-tourism and raise prices, might sound rought but well well... the bottom line is that I think that the localities in question are best suited to take care of the environment in their own vicinity.


And, for Bosnia its a matter of long term planning, information and communal efforts I think. And technology/infrastructure. But there is no lack of inspiration.


Slovakia is beautiful, that fortress on the first page is very imposing, huge. When was it built?

Very nice photoreport from my homeland.Thanks a lot.Pictures are amazig.:)

Slovakia is beautiful, that fortress on the first page is very imposing, huge. When was it built?

it's Spiš Castle, built in the 12th century

lol spiš :D

lol spiš :D

:dunno: :)

in the Slovak language it's Spišský hrad :)

^^ hehe sorry in Bosnian languages in a weird way it would mean a city that someone has pissed on lol :D

Ovo je moja treća posjeta Bratislavi, putevi me nekako sami od sebe tamo vode... Pa reko' da ozivim ovaj thread. Motivi Bratislave su ovaj put drugačiji nego u mojim ranijim postovima.

katedrala Sv.Martina:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6972/img00141280yh2.jpg

Primaciálny palác:
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9017/img00191280qx1.jpg

Dunav i dvorac:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3977/img00321280yl9.jpg

jedan od trgova:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3927/img00421280xf2.jpg

random ulice:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1178/img00501280oe5.jpg

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8334/img00511280ip0.jpg

turistički voz Prešporáčik:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9199/img00531280by3.jpg

Novi most:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2580/img00571280pc8.jpg

prema dvorcu:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4423/img00591280kj0.jpg

dvorac:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9312/img00601280vz0.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/750/img00631280nx9.jpg

pogled odozgo:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7853/img00641280mp8.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6089/img00681280bi1.jpg

moćno:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2084/img00701280dw1.jpg

dvorac je i ovaj put bio u fazi renoviranja, samim tim zatvoren :(
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9190/img00721280dy0.jpg

mislim da im je ovo Parlament:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/5319/img00731280pk5.jpg

od dvorca prema centru:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1351/img00741280jz1.jpg

slika je malo nakrivo, ali je crkva interesantna:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/122/img00791280sm6.jpg

i ova crkva je lijepa, zanima me koja od njih je, ako je ijedna, protestantska:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4089/img00781280cy8.jpg

najuža kuća u Bratislavi:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7356/img00841280mq7.jpg

ovim putem se uđe u skup uličica koje su meni najdraže u Bratislavi, mada je tamo mala šansa ikoga sresti:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7119/img00911280xb7.jpg

random ulica:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5291/img00921280ie7.jpg

Michalska vrata:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3779/img00931280wm5.jpg

iako relativno nova stvar u Bratislavi, ove čike su postale prepoznatljiv simbol grada:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/994/img00951280qq5.jpg

detalj na fasadi:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4292/img00961280iz7.jpg

nešto kao "zemaljski muzej" koji smo posjetili:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/594/img00991280lp0.jpg

u muzeju:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4609/img01031280yy8.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4099/img01131280nq0.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4294/img01211280hx7.jpg

originalna mumija iz Egipta:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5350/img01221280uy2.jpg

mamut:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9098/img01291280eg9.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8098/img01321280cn5.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1970/img01331280qg4.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7848/img01351280mh8.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9961/img01381280wz0.jpg

Slovačko narodno pozorište:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/479/img01421280iw7.jpg

Vrabac kradljivac:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/148/img01481280fj1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5313/img01471280re1.jpg

Devin (na ušću Morave u Dunav):
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4248/img01641280zi4.jpg

ušće:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8223/img01661280qd2.jpg

Svidja mi se dvorac I parlament :yes:

Još malo slika iz meni tako drage Slovačke :)

partizanski bunker na putu ka Krivanu:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3196/047partizanskibunkernavzz1.jpg

Krivan gore:
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8516/048premavrhukrivan2494mjs1.jpg

Tatranski mak:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5398/049tatranskimakna5.jpg

Krivansko zeleno pleso:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5602/050krivanskozelenoplesoch1.jpg

uspon:
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9743/051br3.jpg

neko drugo jezero (ako je planinsko, oni ga zovu "pleso"):
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1695/052nekodrugojezerolq3.jpg

na Krivanu - pogled ka Zapadnim Tatrama:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3535/053zapadnetatregledanosmj6.jpg

pogled prema Visokim Tatrama:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/7994/056qo4.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1540/057xo2.jpg

nazad:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/571/058ey3.jpg

Jamske pleso:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5855/060jamskeplesomm6.jpg

neki potočić:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6343/061nu5.jpg

Štrbske pleso:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3707/062trbskeplesorg2.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6604/063dugaal7.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7945/064trbskeplesovt5.jpg

:applause:
velmo dobro fotke.

^^ dakujem / diki ;)

ovaj dio Visokih Tatri je u Poljskoj, mi smo preko jednog planinskog vrha (najvišeg u Poljskoj, a najvišeg dozvoljenog za planinarenje u Slovačkoj) prešli iz Poljske u Slovačku:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6008/065poljskastranatatrikn8.jpg

jezero koje je famozno i zove se Morsko oko:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6326/066jezeromorskieokowv1.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/475/067jj9.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6332/068ai7.jpg

gornje jezero se putem ovih vodopada prelijeva u donje:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5274/069gornjejezeroprelaziusw1.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/993/070yy3.jpg

na gornjem jezeru (ima komplikovano ime):
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3656/072czamystawpodrysamijeze2.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8046/073xm4.jpg

krivi vodopad:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9176/075bk4.jpg

divokoza (kamzik) u trku:
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3051/076kamzikdivokozawg3.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8153/079me9.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7939/080cw5.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9044/082ku6.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9380/083rv9.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3678/084xf6.jpg

Zmrzle pleso (pogledi već pucaju ka Slovačkoj):
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5100/088zmrzleplesoqu4.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4626/089rn1.jpg

Žablja jezera:
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5316/093abljajezeracs1.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3820/095poglednazadupoljskumz0.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7364/097ht8.jpg

granični prelaz:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/686/098graniniprijelazna249zq4.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2227/100vj8.jpg

Chata (dom) pod Risijem:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1412/101chatapodrysmiwv2.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3678/103abljajezerady2.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3163/105mnogivodopadisastranwb5.jpg

sherpa (nosač):
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8552/106sherpaol9.jpg

Prelijepo Beca :applause:

ja odavno hoću da me vode putevi u Bratislavu, pa nikad lol :D mislim da ću sad u Januaru ići u Bratislavu.. Lijep je grad, liči na Zagreb na slikama :)

i imaju cool jazyk :D

aha, jezik im je strava... naše 'g' je često njihovo 'h', to 'y' ni oni ne znaju gdje ide gdje ne ide, nema neke logike

ja idem gore opet za 6-7 dana, pa onda dalje na sjever (Norveška, Švedska...)

Većina slovačkih planina je od kamena koji oni zovu "žuja" (ja ne znam kako se zove kod nas), u kojemu nema pećina niti podzemnih voda... Poneka mjesta kao što je podnožje Niskih Tatri su od vapnenca ili krečnjaka (od kojeg su većina balkanskih planina), koji uglavnom propušta vodu, pa se u njemu mogu naći mnoge pećine i podzemne vode. Mi smo posjetili dvije pećine pod Niskim Tatrama, evo i slika.

Demanovska pećina slobode:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3883/110demanovskapeinaslobodq2.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/429/111zh3.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4255/114dj6.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1213/117ia0.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4958/118kp1.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3114/120lj2.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7259/122pq5.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9089/124uh4.jpg

Demanovska ledena pećina (u kojoj je bilo užasno hladno, ali gotovo bez leda):
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8558/125nisketatrenn9.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5302/126kosturmedvjedaudemanbz4.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1507/127demanovskaledenapeincc6.jpg

prekrasne slike Beco :okay: :applause:

hvala, payo

Liptovsky Hradok:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6716/128liptovskyhradoknr4.jpg

Spišska Sobota:
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3279/129spiskasobotaae8.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1659/130aq8.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7756/131ln7.jpg

Poprad:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1999/132popradcu1.jpg