How many Saudis live in diaspora ? Im asking myself which countries u can find saudis immigrants .

it is very rear for Saudis
anyway, I've heard about 3 Saudis immigrated to the US

Almost none existing!

There are 30 to 50 thousands students though in the US, UK, Australia, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, UAE and many other countries!

so there are only 50 000 saudis students

There are 30 to 50 thousands students though in the US, UK, Australia, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, UAE and many other countries!

Also South Korea , Japan, Holland, Poland, China and Canada. :D


moroccanboy Where is your thread about What saudi think about Morocco?

i dont think there are saudi immigrants. probably students or diplomats

A friend of mine, Aziz, is a Saudi from Al Khobar. I asked him after reading this thread how come there are few Saudis in the diaspora and he says that there is more opportunity financially for Saudis at home than overseas and the rules for emigration are tough for Saudi citizens. Not sure if it is the real reason though but he arrived here in 1995 because his father got a job offer here in Sydney. He also said that he is part of only a handful of Saudi families in Australia that have actually immigrated rather than on student or work visa.

in the usa there is a large saudi community

I heard that Saudi Arabia doesn't allow its citizens to have a double nationality

^^ niether does Qatar why would a nation allow double nationality the last time there was a person with a Qatari nationality and saudi nationality living in Qatar his Qatari nationality was cancelled and then he was kicked out of Qatar !

Tell me why not... Its only gulf countries in the world that have this backward mentality... I think they're insecure or something... They don't want their citizens to have a 2nd European or American nationality, cuz that might make them somehow superior to the rest with only 1 passport/nationality...

It's the person's right, if he is entitled, why not...

^^ niether does Qatar why would a nation allow double nationality the last time there was a person with a Qatari nationality and saudi nationality living in Qatar his Qatari nationality was cancelled and then he was kicked out of Qatar !

You are talking about Al-Ghifram of the Marri tribe which was a political issue and has really nothing to do with dual citizinsip.

Yes, even in Saudi dual citizenship is illegal but I know many with American citizenships and they were not bothered by anyone. And I guarantee you that there are Qataris with American citizenship and the authorties knows about them but does nothing.

some of them also have Qatar and UAE passports and nationalities :(

as i know dual citizenship was legal before ~8 years!

Tell me why not... Its only gulf countries in the world that have this backward mentality... I think they're insecure or something... They don't want their citizens to have a 2nd European or American nationality, cuz that might make them somehow superior to the rest with only 1 passport/nationality...

It's the person's right, if he is entitled, why not...

really? is that really the case...... last i heard the USA did not allow dual nationality not only that but they claimed it was for security purposes they said that if you had dual nationalities you would regard your american as infieror.....
i think this BACKWARD preception is shared in the gulf as well B-Patriot

I'm pretty sure that most of the world allows dual-nationality. Canada does (where I currently reside).

we have many Saudis got UAE citizenship in the past years.

really? is that really the case...... last i heard the USA did not allow dual nationality not only that but they claimed it was for security purposes they said that if you had dual nationalities you would regard your american as infieror.....
i think this BACKWARD preception is shared in the gulf as well B-Patriot


Wrong! America does in fact allow for most dual citizenships. In fact, my own mother is both a UK and US citizen. You may have heard of Saudis being forced to choose between the US and KSA, but that most likely is a result of Saudi policy, not American policy - and even if it is American policy, it probably is restricted to Saudi Arabia in particular.



"# Is it possible to be a dual citizen of the United States of America and another country?

YES -- in many cases.

If you have been a dual citizen from birth or childhood, or else became a citizen of another country after already having US citizenship, and the other country in question does not have any laws or regulations requiring you to formally renounce your US citizenship before US consular officials, then current US law unambiguously assures your right to keep both citizenships for life.

The US State Department -- traditionally quite combative in its handling of dual-citizenship claims -- has changed the way it handles these cases in recent years, and it is now much easier to retain such a status without a fight than it used to be.

The situation is slightly less clear for someone who becomes a US citizen via naturalization and still wishes to take advantage of his old citizenship. People who go through US naturalization are required to state under oath that they are renouncing their old citizenship, and conduct inconsistent with this pledge could theoretically lead to loss of one's US status.

However, the State Department is no longer actively pursuing cases of this nature in most situations. In particular, when a new American's "old country" refuses to recognize the US naturalization oath (with its renunciatory clause) as having any effect on its own citizenship laws -- and insists that the person in question must continue to deal with his old country as a citizen thereof (e.g., by using that country's passport when travelling there to visit) -- the US State Department generally no longer minds.

Similarly, the State Department doesn't seem to be doing anything any more to people who renounce their US citizenship as part of a foreign country's "routine" naturalization procedure (in a manner similar to what the US makes its new citizens do). However, if the other country in question requires its newly naturalized citizens to approach officials of their old countries to revoke their previous status, one will generally not be able to remain a citizen both of that country and the US."

2. But I thought US law didn't permit one to be a dual citizen -- that if you were (by birth or otherwise), you either had to give up the other citizenship when you came of age, or else you'd lose your US status. And that if you became a citizen of another country, you'd automatically lose your US citizenship. So what's all this talk about dual citizenship?

It indeed used to be the case in the US that you couldn't hold dual citizenship (except in certain cases if you had dual citizenship from birth or childhood, in which case some Supreme Court rulings -- Perkins v. Elg (1939), Mandoli v. Acheson (1952), and Kawakita v. U.S. (1952) -- permitted you to keep both). However, most of the laws forbidding dual citizenship were struck down by the US Supreme Court in two cases: a 1967 decision, Afroyim v. Rusk, as well as a second ruling in 1980, Vance v. Terrazas.

Rules against dual citizenship still apply to some extent -- at least in theory -- to people who wish to become US citizens via naturalization. The Supreme Court chose to leave in place the requirement that new citizens must renounce their old citizenship during US naturalization. However, in practice, the State Department is no longer doing anything in the vast majority of situations where a new citizen's "old country" refuses to recognize the US renunciation and continues to consider the person's original citizenship to be in effect.

The official US State Department policy on dual citizenship today is that the United States does not favor it as a matter of policy because of various problems they feel it may cause, but the existence of dual citizenship is recognized (i.e., accepted) as a fact of life. That is, if you ask them if you ought to become a dual citizen, they will recommend against doing it; but if you tell them you are a dual citizen, they'll almost always say it's OK."

Many have dual citizenship, but few have actually immigrated, the connection to family and land is extremely strong, and so far the political, social, and religious "oppression" has been rather tolerable to some degree by the masses, but things can change -for better or worse- very rapidly.

in the usa there is a large saudi community

Mostly students.

^^ niether does Qatar why would a nation allow double nationality the last time there was a person with a Qatari nationality and saudi nationality living in Qatar his Qatari nationality was cancelled and then he was kicked out of Qatar !


Children that have parents from diferent countries for once...
to share the nationality of your husband/wife

personal reasons etc...