i counldnt find original thread? may have been deleted ?
Anyway
BIG NEWS!! The comp was held last week and Project Architecture won!!
There proposal had more features then the others and complied to sun access plane ect..
The 112m/35storey bldg rises 18 storeys on George st and the tower component rises a further 17 at rear.
the great feature otop the roof is a 30m wind turbine!! which brings official height to 142m-same as nearby Aspect!
The wind turbine rises from west cnr and will reduce bldg costs by 20%.
Ive only got George st elevation diagram which ill post tonight!
Maroun developements-a parramatta company want to lodge DA asap and start this year!!! there very keen!

heres aa old pic of bldg envelope. the new proposal is same height and similar shape but all glass with "orange" coloured panels up facades. the wind turbine crowns the most western cnr of tower.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/11/169662.jpg

cheers

I don't think there was an official thread on it but anyway it's good news to see this mixed use development getting the go ahead.

I like the incorporation of office into this development, the southern CBD will benefit from it.

And is the wind turbine actually going to generate electricity. It would be very innovative if it were the case?

Originally posted by Fabian
I don't think there was an official thread on it but anyway it's good news to see this mixed use development getting the go ahead.

I like the incorporation of office into this development, the southern CBD will benefit from it.

And is the wind turbine actually going to generate electricity. It would be very innovative if it were the case?
Its actually 100% residential now! also yes the wind turbine generates electricity. The company want to erect these devices in other CBD towers.lol

Any explaination for ditching the office component???

WOW! about time as this is such a prominent location upon entering the CBD from the south on George St. Looks as thou I will get to wet my pants in utter delight over this one. I will have to put this one down as my most anticipated CBD project about to commence.

Altius will no doubt be very happy as this site in the CBD is his number 1 pet hate. ;)

I am highly curious about this "wind turbine". I just seem to have this problem at the moment where I picture a wind mill atop of a 100m+ tower ......... :D

The wind turbine is actually quite a curious looking structure! It really just looks like a spire. the 4 sided steel framed structure has 3 circular turning elements at lower part of tower . the top 3rd of tower then reduces to a fine spire. its not really imposing and goes about its job even at night!
Apparently the Environment people who spoke at competition say how solar is out and wind is in. Sydney is very windy apparently!!lol
fab- no idea why offices were left out? maybe maroun want all units, greed?

Erecting this tower is the best thing to happen in Sydney after the Harbour Bridge and Opera House! :D

It is not so much about the tower and what it is gonna look like, but about flattening that ugly site and even uglier shops and diggin' really deep to create foundations for a new gateway building!

Hope those developers have some money to make this happen!

:guns1:

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Erecting this tower is the best thing to happen in Sydney after the Harbour Bridge and Opera House! :D

It is not so much about the tower and what it is gonna look like, but about flattening that ugly site and even uglier shops and diggin' really deep to create foundations for a new gateway building!

Hope those developers have some money to make this happen!

:guns1:
alt- this WILL happen and soon! the developer are hasseling planners already for a rush DA approval!! it will start this year!
Just imagine this and ASPECT and also EAST starting up along with cassia, latitude, World tower, Masonic!! maybe even 114 liverpool (Opp wt) and 30storey meriton on campbell st also 16storey park central overlooking belmore park!!
talk about a boom!!!

Can't wait to see George Street in 2 years!! :)

It's gonna be the best place to stroll in town!

Southern CBD was neglected for too long and now this is really something we can look forward to!

Hope Meritons builds a better Regis Tower No4 to compensate for the lack of imagination on the first three buildings!

Hope Aspect will finally happen after the dispute and design change!

Hope World Square shopping will be world-class and more than just a foodcourt!

:guns1:

Originally posted by CULWULLA
The wind turbine is actually quite a curious looking structure! It really just looks like a spire. the 4 sided steel framed structure has 3 circular turning elements at lower part of tower . the top 3rd of tower then reduces to a fine spire. its not really imposing and goes about its job even at night!
Apparently the Environment people who spoke at competition say how solar is out and wind is in. Sydney is very windy apparently!!lol
fab- no idea why offices were left out? maybe maroun want all units, greed?

offices=rent=profits in the long term$$$$

alt- look on aspect thread for its start time which is in 4 weeks!
fab-units=$ more $ evry year on.

When it comes to selling units, the developer makes money in the short term with office, there is a tendiency to lease them out. Also Strata suites also generate a fair amount of revenue and make an excellent investment

This is bloody fantastic news! Thanks as always for keeping us informed Cul! And it's even better news to find out that the developers are VERY KEEN!

I'm standing with Altius about this development. It's a huuge boost for the area given what's there presently... some pokey trinket shops and a couple of milkbar + LAN gaming shops.

I'm sure the renders will be coming soon. Let's hope it's nice... orange.... something different!

Who is Project Architecture? They are new to me. Anyone know of their work elsewhere?

Originally posted by brizer
Who is Project Architecture? They are new to me. Anyone know of their work elsewhere?
there a few ex city planners who have got together and become the firm. There pretty good. there also designing a new beaut 15level office tower for Milsons point over looking Luna park. it also has a wind turbine, but its part of the top 3 storeys(cut into side of bldg). they have also designed Mid City centre and some others.

Originally posted by CULWULLA
alt- this WILL happen and soon! the developer are hasseling planners already for a rush DA approval!! it will start this year!
Just imagine this and ASPECT and also EAST starting up along with cassia, latitude, World tower, Masonic!! maybe even 114 liverpool (Opp wt) and 30storey meriton on campbell st also 16storey park central overlooking belmore park!!
talk about a boom!!!

......not to mention 101 Bathurst and Meriton Tower. It's all looking very promising however I still wonder how many of these projects will actually get off the ground. Marketing hasn't even started for Meriton, 101, 720, 114, or East, and there's a shitload of apartments that have to be sold before any of these progress. So my concern is whether there is enough (time) left in this cycle for these projects to get up. Aspect is taking an ETERNITY to happen too.....JUST BUILD THE F*****G THING!!!!

Originally posted by MrTall
......not to mention 101 Bathurst and Meriton Tower. It's all looking very promising however I still wonder how many of these projects will actually get off the ground. Marketing hasn't even started for Meriton, 101, 720, 114, or East, and there's a shitload of apartments that have to be sold before any of these progress. So my concern is whether there is enough (time) left in this cycle for these projects to get up. Aspect is taking an ETERNITY to happen too.....JUST BUILD THE F*****G THING!!!!

Meriton is a rental apartment tower, so they won't be selling any of that - they'll just advertise for tenants through their website and real estate agencies when the tower is getting close to completion.

With rental yields so low, I wonder why they'd want to be landlording at this point in time. Maybe they're chasing capital gains?? Who knows.

mr tall, believe me all these projects will go ahead! Sydney has a strong pull and residential is going well! Sydney is so big it tends to slow down but never lull!

anywahow heres the pic i promised!
as you can see its from george street. It doesnt show colours and materials just simple form. but gives idea of tower and spire!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/210434.jpg

Look great and adds to my fav new cluster (see other post) looking forward to the model

Gee, I'm just getting (fabulously) used to Latitude munchcing up W.T., after getting (fabulously) used to W.T. having topped out - once you turn into George from Central.

Now we have to (fabulously) get used to a mid-riser from this vantage point arising in the foreground of Latitude, if all goes well.

Just thinking about it makes me tired (from excitement)!!

Still maintains the Rialto Tower look, with a spire (turbine) much better than what big Rialto will be getting.

The previous diagram shows heights in RLs.

On comparison the new tower @ 112m to roof (142 to spire/wind turbine) over 35 levels, so it will be slightly taller to roof than nearby Roden Cutler & noticeably taller to roof than Sydney Plaza.

According to ss.com:
Roden Cutler = 108m @ 30 levels
Sydney Plaza = 100m @ 25 levels

Originally posted by museumb
The previous diagram shows heights in RLs.

On comparison the new tower @ 112m to roof (142 to spire/wind turbine) over 35 levels, so it will be slightly taller to roof than nearby Roden Cutler & noticeably taller to roof than Sydney Plaza.

According to ss.com:
Roden Cutler = 108m @ 30 levels
Sydney Plaza = 100m @ 25 levels
720 george st will be RL118m to roof or Rl148m to spire.
Aspect will be Rl150m to spire (the digram is earlier scheme)

Originally posted by museumb
The previous diagram shows heights in RLs.

On comparison the new tower @ 112m to roof (142 to spire/wind turbine) over 35 levels, so it will be slightly taller to roof than nearby Roden Cutler & noticeably taller to roof than Sydney Plaza.

According to ss.com:
Roden Cutler = 108m @ 30 levels
Sydney Plaza = 100m @ 25 levels

I really hate both of these 2 towers, esp Sydney Plaza. Such an insult to the name of our great city. They could have done a better job with the renovation a couple of years ago! Anyway be happy, it will soon be well hidden with the current wave of new towers.

Sydney Plaza looks quite good following the renovation. It looks as if it were built not so long ago. The building before that was filth.

Roden Cutler building desperately needs an uplift! :rant:

Hope someone will realise that further down the track - I would pull it down and build something decent (why not another residential!!) within the height limit.....

:guns1:

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Roden Cutler building desperately needs an uplift! :rant:

Hope someone will realise that further down the track - I would pull it down and build something decent (why not another residential!!) within the height limit.....

:guns1:
Roden Cutler actually protudes thru height plane due to being built (1973) before sun planes introduced! So if it was to be converted it would just stay same height but obviuosly full of balconies ect.RCH is 30 years old this year! it needs a refurb!

view south along pitt st. Aspect will hid some of RCH from this view!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/11/170673.jpg

Originally posted by Fabian
Sydney Plaza looks quite good following the renovation. It looks as if it were built not so long ago. The building before that was filth.

heres a pic of Sydney Plaza with site of ASPECT to the left and site of 720 george st behind Sydney pl.

i was only saying last week to Tonyp that the bottom 3 floors of Sydney plaza look fab! (steel panelling) they should of kept it going right up full height of bldg!! instead of cheap paint job.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/201357.jpg

The panelling would make it look brutalist like that of UTS.

And Culwulla, do you have a pic of the building before it got recladded just to prove my point how ugly it was before.

Originally posted by Fabian
The panelling would make it look brutalist like that of UTS.

And Culwulla, do you have a pic of the building before it got recladded just to prove my point how ugly it was before.
i have one somewhere. ill post when i find.

Originally posted by Fabian
And Culwulla, do you have a pic of the building before it got recladded just to prove my point how ugly it was before. Just a reminder, Sydney Plaza wasn't recladded - it was a paint job as mentioned by CULWULLA, by his 2 posts ago.

Always some thing new to look at ! Gotta go see Sydney Plaza.

Originally posted by museumb
Just a reminder, Sydney Plaza wasn't recladded - it was a paint job as mentioned by CULWULLA, by his 2 posts ago.

It looks like it was.:) Very clever

Ive got an exclusive! ill post some renders of tower tonight!

Looking forward to it Cul! :)

RE: Sydney Plaza, the refurbishment really did improve it dramatically - now it looks like a standard, bland, generic box, as opposed to a foul, brown generic box! ;)

When Aspect and 720 George are built, Sydney Plaza will seem much more bearable, because it will just be one tower of many, and won't stand out so much!

well heres the scans i promised!

view from darling harbour. (Aspect isnt shown)

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/214188.jpg

from Goulburn st (love the palm trees)

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/214190.jpg

top section. its very rialto. with a spire. the spire doesnt look too bad with the wind turbines.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/214191.jpg


The lower section with wavy balcs.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/214192.jpg the guy down the bottom is about to jump.
well waht do you think guys?
i like it.

Looks unreal! :)

One of the most intriguing residential towers to date! I like the facade, spire and yeah, palm trees! Very groovy! :D

I say the guy should jump.

Nice scraper also.

Looks great! The undulating balconies on the shorter tower look brilliant! :D

I like the effect of the somewhat random orange panels but...what are they? They look like they may be external blinds or something, which would be very very cool, but a bit of a maintenance hassle you'd think.

Actually, if they are external sun shades which can be operated from the inside, that would mean this tower has two amazing groundbreaking skyscraper features that I've never seen before!!! The other one is of course the rooftop wind turbines.

Definitely not your ordinary run-of-the-mill apartment tower!! :)

That is the best design of any apartment tower in the Sydney CBD. Very world class. I love the wavy balconies and the red sunshades??? The use of glass adds to this.

It will improve the appeal of the skyline in that of part of town and despite it's design, it blends in with the no-so impressive Roden Cutler House and Sydney Plaza

Originally posted by Fabian
That is the best design of any apartment tower in the Sydney CBD. Very world class. I love the wavy balconies and the red sunshades??? The use of glass adds to this.

It will improve the appeal of the skyline in that of part of town and despite it's design, it blends in with the no-so impressive Roden Cutler House and Sydney Plaza

I agree. Kind of reminds me a bit of Siedler's North only a few meters away...
If it's built the EXACT same way the renders suggest then it'll be one of the nicest towers in Sydney. I wish there was a render showing the view from George St looking north. That's the "money shot" in my books.

Top stuff!

Originally posted by fro
I agree. Kind of reminds me a bit of Siedler's North only a few meters away...
If it's built the EXACT same way the renders suggest then it'll be one of the nicest towers in Sydney. I wish there was a render showing the view from George St looking north. That's the "money shot" in my books.

Top stuff!

Yeah, the view north up George Street will be particularly amazing with the three giant wind turbines spinning on the spire!

Seems a little stark on the sky line from that angle
I know it a rare thing to say but I belive to much is going on to evaualte future impacts of all these events.
While I get caught up in the rapid change, No longer sure i feel all this going on in a city that has been my home for so long.

Originally posted by Trances
Seems a little stark on the sky line from that angle
I know it a rare thing to say but I belive to much is going on to evaualte future impacts of all these events.
While I get caught up in the rapid change, No longer sure i feel all this going on in a city that has been my home for so long.

LOL! Trances were you drunk when you typed this? :cheers: :D

was doing a few others things at the time LOL
despite mixed words and spelling
still stands true

well the latest is that the councillors arent happy with the "gold coast type" design even though it won the design comp. They have been told to 'refine' the design before sublitting the official DA before Xmas!! Developer maroun are want things to happen quickly and are eager to acquire the construction certificate!

"Gold Coast Type Design?" Seidler and Meriton have been getting away with wavy balconies jutting out for a couple of years now. What gives? Do they want to bland-it-down again?

Just build it. Anything's gotta be better that the row of shops (not even stores) and sleazy parking lot at the back that's there now! BLAH!

Originally posted by Muse
"Gold Coast Type Design?" Seidler and Meriton have been getting away with wavy balconies jutting out for a couple of years now. What gives? Do they want to bland-it-down again?

Just build it. Anything's gotta be better that the row of shops (not even stores) and sleazy parking lot at the back that's there now! BLAH!

exactly. Do these councilors even get out and about to see what this building will be replacing? Do they even wander around the city to see some of tripe that's been erected.

This design is perfect. Build it already.

No wait. It's too tall. Let's make it 2 storeys... no wait. Let's make it a subteranian bunker 20m below the earth's surface so as to not impinge upon the precious sun access plane.

Originally posted by CULWULLA
well the latest is that the councillors arent happy with the "gold coast type" design even though it won the design comp. They have been told to 'refine' the design before sublitting the official DA before Xmas!! Developer maroun are want things to happen quickly and are eager to acquire the construction certificate!

It doesn't look anything like a Gold Coast Tower at all. I have not seen one Gold Coast tower designed like that.

Sadly such comments demonstrate the bureaucratic fear of anything that is a little different, the council's collective ignorance of contemporary architectural design - after all, there are few (only 1?) professional architects/planners on the council - and the councillors' lack of knowledge of what has and is occurring on the Gold Coast in recent decades.
This, unfortunately, does not prevent them from having strong opinions on things architectural and predisposes them to the safe rather than the innovative, the bland rather than the adventurous, and the city loses again.
Makes you wonder what miracle gave us the Opera House, though the successive governments did their level best to f*** it up along the way, but all were quick to claim credit when it was hailed a success.
Cynical? Nah, I've just been around too long.

Originally posted by CULWULLA
well the latest is that the councillors arent happy with the "gold coast type" design even though it won the design comp. They have been told to 'refine' the design before sublitting the official DA before Xmas!! Developer maroun are want things to happen quickly and are eager to acquire the construction certificate!

Come on guys! You've got to agree! Colour and an innovative form slightly outside of the envelope can be awfully scary at times! ;) Especially when you're pandering to conservative voters! :|

Bloody hell! That part of town looks terrible and we need a fancy design like that! Maybe some councillors will be missing those sleazy shops that currently occupy the site....

Why didn't they block the development of Meriton's Miramar? Or Regis Towers.... Nothing can be worse than those ones...

Can't wait for a day when 720 George is built and Roden Cutler building is pulled down! :rant: :bleep: :mad:

council are quite happy with bldg form and shape BUT not the floor to floor glass which will make it look cheap and tacky once people have moved in and place old wardrobes upagainst the exposed glazing ect.The site is one of the most "exposed" in Sydney's CBD with a great vista looking along George st. We do realy need to get this one right or it will look shit house. Im sure the architects-Project Architecture will think of something.

How about tinting the glass? Could that work?

Just glass it all in. Mmmm, classy.

That way no towel-hangin' balcones to be seen.

Yeah, tint the glass and get rid of balconies! :D

It's about time Sydney embraced glassy apartment buildings like in Europe and the US.

Sure, Chicago style scraper like 'Lake Point' tower! (Not Marina City...) ;)

What's the latest status on this one CULWULLA?

Originally posted by Muse
What's the latest status on this one CULWULLA?
this one is currenty going through a design amendment with the competition winner! The new DA should be officially lodged either before Xmas or in January! Construction set to start soon after! The Parramatta devloper-Maroun are eager to commence!

So we aren't going to get that Furking ugly orange peice of crap?

Fingers crossed! :) Hope we can trust 'Maroun'. This is such a vital development...Future George St would be shit without this tower....

Agreed a x 3. It will eventually provide a nice enough backdrop for looking down George Street form Central Square towards the then completed Latitude. :okay:

Yes, today I went for an early Sunday morning walk around the southern C.B.D. and low and behold.....

....the row of stores on the site are starting to have closing down sales!

Signs reading "All Store Must Go" without the 's' on the word store. 3 windows had it, so I'm not sure if they mean all the store's stock must go or all the stores are going. Either way, they are gearing up to close forever.

Deja vu with the temporary stores on Latitude's site and Regent Place @ 101 Bathurst.

This slooooooowwwwww Chinese Water-type torture begins.....

.....NOW!! :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:

Yeaaaah, these words are music for my ears! :)

Those freakin's stores will disappear forever!! :cool:


:guns1:

LOL... good spotting there MUSE! Well done! I hope they move quickly, and as Cul informs us, they are keen to start. I like the orange design, and hope they don't change too much of it.

I hope they put up some hoardings/boardings with copius amounts of renders! :D :D :D

Originally posted by fro
LOL... good spotting there MUSE! Well done! I hope they move quickly, and as Cul informs us, they are keen to start. I like the orange design, and hope they don't change too much of it.

I hope they put up some hoardings/boardings with copius amounts of renders! :D :D :D
ill let everyone know when latest design is in. hopefully before xmas, but not holding breath!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
I'll let everyone know when latest design is in. Hopefully before xmas, but not holding breath! Oh indeed, most of us undoubtably hold with baited breath, unashamedly so :D

DA lodged today!
just got in before xmas!
should get approval ealry in 2004 for a prompt start!
Looks like WTC copied the idea of windmills on top of roof!lol

pix of model, (sorry for blurry pix)

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/235904.jpg

the wind turbine has come dwon in height from 142m to 127m.(not sure why?

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/235907.jpg

Looks really great!! :D

But what's with the south-east facing wall? Is that a big blank wall?

Originally posted by finn
Looks really great!! :D

But what's with the south-east facing wall? Is that a big blank wall?
i think theres some small windows? which arent shown on model.

Very beautiful indeed, I guess the south east wall won't have too much to it due to the somewhat decrepit site next door, ripe for the next development boom.

Hope this one gets approved ASAP! :D Given the current residential property market oversupply I'm still very worried about the fate of 720 George and Lumiere as well. Hope these two will be built over the next 2 years or so... And after that wouldn't mind if the market crashes again! :D

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Hope this one gets approved ASAP! :D Given the current residential property market oversupply I'm still very worried about the fate of 720 George and Lumiere as well. Hope these two will be built over the next 2 years or so... And after that wouldn't mind if the market crashes again! :D ]
Maroun developments WANT TO PROCEED ASAP! They have been patiently waiting for the comp process and now approval process. i can see things heating up around march next year!
as with Lumiere, its not IF it will go ahead, its WHEN! Greenfields know they have probably the ultimate loaction for a highrise apartment block in the CBD! a gold mine! This one will defiantely proceed within 2-3 years! cant loose!
2004 for Sydney is going to be even bigger than 2003!

Excellent, thanks Cul.
I showed the model to my missus and she said "Cool. Is it gonna be glassy because we need more glassy towers there to cover up those other buildings? Oh quick, Extreme Makeover's back on....turn it up".
I said " Hey baby, the southern CBD is getting an Extreme Makeover ! Now shut up and get me a beer" ;)

This is shaping up to be one helluva funky mid-riser! :)

A Top class design. This part of the CBD has been crying out for one for sometime. :) I hope it's the start of a revival of the southern end of George St from Goulburn St.

Are 'Maroun' still keen to commence construction asap?:? :?

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Are 'Maroun' still keen to commence construction asap?:? :?
yeah still very keen but the DA has had some design issues (nothing to worry about) and its the normal slow coach tactics by council with the approval process.
This should commence within a few months.

720 george street was APPROVED last night at council! Developers Maroun from Parramatta will start its construction before year is out! :cucumber:

How grand is that!

Just getting used to the view of Latitude from Central Sq. but now it will make a nice dark backdrop for this one.

...and good riddance to those slimey, sleazoid, tacky, damn hideous bloody shops!!!

C'mon Cupie.....faster! :cucumber:

Cool, what was the final design outcome???

heres some pix> the wind tower on top will be an Aussie first!
the height to wind turbine is 127m

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgesttop.jpg

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgestele.jpg

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgefacade.jpg

Thanks Cul, looks like the original design with the specs of orange on the facade has succeded. Its the design I was hoping to win. Hopefully they dont cheapen the final look to some degree ........

This is great news. Hopefully we'll have a new wave of construction early next year with Aspect, East, and this one all going up at the same time.

Cul, what's the status on the proposal for the corner of Goulburn/Pitt Streets?

Man other than Regent Place this one is the worst hole in the city. This part of town honestly is going to be as dense as the North- who would have thought!!!
Sydney = big, bad, booty daddy.. Yeah baby Yeah!!!

This is a small step for mankind but a GIANT one for southern George Street!
Hope that demolition work will start soon!!

:cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2: :banana2:

This is great news. Hopefully we'll have a new wave of construction early next year with Aspect, East, and this one all going up at the same time.

Cul, what's the status on the proposal for the corner of Goulburn/Pitt Streets?
not sure. in think the problem is its relationship with aspect, and heritage iissues with CB hotel.i actually hope it doesnt go ahead at 130m. bit silly right up againts Aspect. i reckon half the height (70m) and just a simple rectangular box like EASt would look better.

Thanks Cul, looks like the original design with the specs of orange on the facade has succeded. Its the design I was hoping to win. Hopefully they dont cheapen the final look to some degree ........Yes, nice surprise that. Let's hope "it ain't cheapened".

Nice big turbine spire too. Makes a statement.

LOL Where are the plams' huge roots being trained? Certainly not into one rooftop floor slab....concccccceptual.

muse- maybe "plastic" palms might be the order of the day? lol.
actually i think the orange or mutli colours will be toned down, but hopefully not too much or it will then just look like another GC 1970's highrise.
i just think a 35storey building is great to finally hide the blank walls of Roden cutler and Sydney plaza while looking up the George ts vista!

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgefacade.jpg

Why are there people scaling the balconies? Is it because the rendering is so ugly, they would prefer to jump than live there?

it has been noticed before vits. I like the guy who looks drunk and about to keel over.

They can tone the orange down a bit but not obliterate it. We also don't want it to end up as a lolly pop of a joke either. As long as they keep the amount of glass or thereabouts is kept, give or take a little.

A tower full of "suits" ATM.

...and I dare anyone to go down behind the shops. You will be stunned, you will be amazed!! :eek: I couldn't believe that places as such existed downtown. Once was enough for me!! :eek:

it has been noticed before vits. I like the guy who looks drunk and about to keel over.

They can tone the orange down a bit but not obliterate it. We also don't want it to end up as a lolly pop of a joke either. As long as they keep the amount of glass or thereabouts is kept, give or take a little.

A tower full of "suits" ATM.

...and I dare anyone to go down behind the shops. You will be stunned, you will be amazed!! :eek: I couldn't believe that places as such existed downtown. Once was enough for me!! :eek:

Never fear about that. It will be gone soon to your relief.

Here is a shot I took of the site sometime back

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/ped73ea09d9b2b4f20c30cd7e25a36d0c/f9399592.jpg

just to let everyone know which site fabian means, its the 1storey green bldg to left of the glass HSBC bldg.
check out the horror that was there in 1986

http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/gpo4/44/d4_44072.jpg

Just spoke to an agent about this site, and apparantly the tenants in the retail outlets are on week by week leases as the owner says the site is due to be demolished in the next 9-12 months! :)

Can someone repost the pix of the 720 george design winner? The existing ones no longer show up on my browser (or on other browsers or ISPs that I've tried)

cheers all

me too cant see it
i dont mind the old one Cul
Yep that little one story builing would trouble me in the past when I used to wait for my bus there.

Here are the renderings. SS.com is up again!!!

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/214190.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/214191.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/214192.jpg

fab, ss.com is back but pix from ss.com dont show anymore.
the ones i posted were deleted by the photobucket asshole!
here they are again!
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgefacade.jpg

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgestele.jpg

http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgesttop.jpg

Alot of suicidals in that first render pic ;)

demanjo lol you're about the 5th person who as stated that since we have started to see that render.

finn 9-12 months before that hideous row of stores are to be demolished? Was the agent the developer Maroun?

Let's all hope it is closer to 9 months which will easily bring us into 2005!!! :(

Regardless if it is 9, 10, 11 or 12 months it will be going well into 2005. There may even be an archaelogical dig on the site which will add approx. another 3 months before construction proper begins. Oh well :dunno:

Hahah Lol
Didn't realise...

Just re-iterating ;)

supposed to start before 2005.

supposed to start before 2005.

So they got final approval?

yep!

yep!

This will make a good addition down town. :)

cool seems to be action on the forum today CUL

I certainly hope so! :)

The wait has been too long for this one!

The wait has been too long for this one!Still seems to be a wait despite the positive signs in the thread..

I noticed the other day that Devine has a rep office in one of the stores on George. lol

maybe action in newyear?

I don't trust Maroun. This site should have been sold to someone else! :bash:

sketchin bro

has this one started?

nah. soon

I have this gut feeling this one isn't going to happen for a while or not at all. There are still "For Lease" signs on the stores there. OK, they might be 6 month leases however.....

Also, I've tried calling Maroun a few times and nobody answers and the phone just rings out (not even an answering service!!).

:cry: NOOOOOOOOO

I knew this one would end up like that...Who the hell has chosen that bloody westie company to develop the George St gateway site? :bash:

Any chance to get rid of them and hold a decent design comp?

Westie!!!! who the hell you calling a westie!

Pity, that site is so damn ugly with those low rise buildings and bargin shops ..... :(

Pity, that site is so damn ugly with those low rise buildings and bargin shops ..... :(

Very true. Definitely the ugliest site in Sydney. And they want to extend the lease for existing shops!? :bash: :bash:

This site should be sold to Meriton! (they also originated in the 'Westieland' lol) It's a shame our friend Harry is kinda pulling out of the CBD market...

Give it to DeMeriton!!?? Are you insane?? Almost everything they touch turns to sh-t even when they are policed rigorously. World Tower and Meriton Tower (I hope) are better than average only because Harry the Uglifier was literally forced to employ a decent architect -who he subsequently undermined at every opportunity - and to lift his game; he would not do it voluntarily! He seems to revel in his reputation for building crap which is not a good sign.

This site should be sold to Meriton! (they also originated in the 'Westieland' lol) It's a shame our friend Harry is kinda pulling out of the CBD market...

I think Meriton's first ever development was in Roseville or Lindfield...read that somewhere once.

I think Meriton's first ever development was in Roseville or Lindfield...read that somewhere once.

It's in Ryde and the 3 storey walkup is still there nearly 40 years after Harry begun his ascension to the top.

It's in Ryde and the 3 storey walkup is still there nearly 40 years after Harry begun his ascension to the top.

Yes, that's true! The only great company that actually started in the West were Westfield! Hence the name :)

As you know, their most interesting centres include: Westfield Horton Plaza, Westfield Century City, Westfield San Francisco and of course, Westiefield Parramatta! (the last three undergoing major expansion atm) :)

Give it to DeMeriton!!?? Are you insane?? Almost everything they touch turns to sh-t even when they are policed rigorously. World Tower and Meriton Tower (I hope) are better than average only because Harry the Uglifier was literally forced to employ a decent architect -who he subsequently undermined at every opportunity - and to lift his game; he would not do it voluntarily! He seems to revel in his reputation for building crap which is not a good sign.

Meriton always deliver! Had the World Square been left with the God damned Malaysian developers it would have still been the giant hole in the ground lol

Edit

Yes, that's true! The only great company that actually started in the West were Westfield! Hence the name :)

As you know, their most interesting centres include: Westfield Horton Plaza, Westfield Century City, Westfield San Francisco and of course, Westiefield Parramatta! (the last three undergoing major expansion atm) :)

*cougth* BONDI JUNCTION *cougth*

I don't like Westfield Bondi Junction. I expected much more from that one (more designer stores, more luxurious fittings etc.) Chatswood Chase is much better!

ignorant

:bash:

Have you ever been out of Penrith? Some of the new Meriton towers actually look quite good (examples: Waitara, Chatswood, Parramatta, Ashfield, Strathfield and of course World Tower, Meriton Tower u/c and so forth)

what the hell!, i was trying to say the same thing altius. oh and if you open your eyes you would have noticed i work next to starcity and i spend most of my weekends in the city taking pictures of the city, Parramtta, Chatwood, liverpool, pretty much every where public transport takes you. So does that answer your question?

what the hell!, i was trying to say the same thing altius. oh and if you open your eyes you would have noticed i work next to starcity and i spend most of my weekends in the city taking pictures of the city, Parramtta, Chatwood, liverpool, pretty much every where public transport takes you. So does that answer your question?

Glad you respect Meriton too! It should have been directed @ "testuser" lol

Gee, what did I start here.

peter, you have to express yourself a bit better. I thought you were calling members ignorant. It comes directly after altius X 3 post, so naturally we think you are calling him ignorant.

Try to keep to at least half sentences so we can understand.

^lol sorry guys i was running late so i just thought id keep it "short" lol .

Is this project dead? :deadthrea

who knows? no applications in yet.its a shame

What can you expect from a Parramatta listed developer trying to hit the big end of town???

well finally got some info.
Chatted to a Maroun skokesman today about the project.
he said they have been a bit hesitant about commencing the project due to falling property markets. He said they will proceed shortly with office /retail component and set up a sales /display suite to see how the interest goes for units.

I told him how Lumiere were also going to leave the large tower as a 2nd stage and commence in a couple of years BUT due to good sales they have changed there minds and proceeding with Lumiere. He said they cant believe people are still buying units. He said alot are from overseas. I told him he is on a good thing with the location of 720 george st and now would be a good time to start.
He actually has to do something soon as the DA is about to lapse.
He asked me what are resi towers have commeneced and i told him Aspect, Stamford marque + some smaller ones. He said Aspect & Stamford M went ahead because they had pre-sales., 720 George hasnt had that. I also said meriton Tower is serviced & Fraser suites are aswell.But 420 Pitt st will be resi. he said meriton have got balls.
anyway hopefully sales will come in once display suite is up. I reckon it will go good. the "gateway" location and D harbour views are exceptional!

reminder>
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/720georgesttop.jpg

i really like this building heres hoping

Doesn't sound like they are very cashed up for this project. They aren't thorough with their homework either. You should know exactly what everyone else is doing......if you're serious.

We may just end up with the office/retail component for quite a few years....what is that exactly?

Thanks CULWULLA. :)

the office/retail component is a couple of floors high.

Here we go again with this one ..... :ohno:

Here we go again with this one ..... :ohno:Yeah, just sell the DA and design to Meriton.

At least Meriton's city towers have gotten better (i know debatable, esp. in the cost-cutting areas), they're cashed-up a~a~a~a~and they know their market.

So want this one to happen. That part of George St really needs some umpff! This would be the perfect tower to deliver that.

Yeah, just sell the DA and design to Meriton.

At least Meriton's city towers have gotten better (i know debatable, esp. in the cost-cutting areas), they're cashed-up a~a~a~a~and they know their market.

So want this one to happen. That part of George St really needs some umpff! This would be the perfect tower to deliver that.

Agree. It needs a serious developer ..... not a wanna-be developer. :(

Maroun Morons... :blahblah:

Maroun Morons... :blahblah:LOL, but so true...Maroun is proving to be big talkers as the above smiley indicates....Blah Blah!!

After chatting to the guy from Maroun, i totally understand there hesitation in building this one. Developers want to make $$money$$ right? Well atm they said they wont make premium dollar if they build it.If they wait for time is right (when property market recovers) then they will make it worth there while.But as i said, they will start on the office/retail part firstly and see if people will be interested in purchasing apartments. I told them they will sell since 720 george is located in Sydney's 'residential" sector which is proving popular with investors.

....i totally understand there hesitation in building this one....We don't (understand) LOL ;)

Just sell it to Meriton.... :)

^ lol, yeah Meriton buy approved DA's and then build them! not a problem!
just think if harryT didnt exist we wouldnt have>>
Summit-2000
360 kent st-2001
Maestri towers x2-2001
Wolrd Tower-2004
Rialto-2004
meriton Tower-2006UC
Mosaic-2006UC
Park central-2006?

just think if harryT didnt exist we wouldnt have>>
Summit-2000
360 kent st-2001
Maestri towers x2-2001
Rialto-2004

Oh man... if only Harry T didn't exist!

^ agree with you but Rialto isnt too bad. the rest are crapo

I like Maestri Towers. :)

^ yeah then again they are ok also. maybe just the summit sucks?

rialto is good

Sorry, but if you're all going to like those horrible buildings I'm going to have to add Mosaic and World Tower to my list as well. I'm sure they'll find a way to cheapen Park Central, too.

Rialto is so cheap looking - the podium especially. Summit is definitely the absolute worst, though; it's so bad it makes Sun Tower look good!

Actually, Maestri is OK... I had it confused with Regis Towers. Why'd you leave Regis off your list, Cul? That's a choice collection of buildings right there.

^it wasnt build by meriton?

Yeah 3 Regis towers and 'Mosaic' as No4.

I was just poking around the Turner + Associates site (http://www.turnerassociates.com.au/) and found a couple of pictures of what I assume to be their entry in the design comp for this site.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/720.jpg

I like the design that won, but really dig this one. Maybe the yellow was too much for the council? Turner have some interesting ideas - I hope they get a chance to get something like this built in the CBD sooner or later.

I dont mind the design. Looks great. :)

Thank you for the site: it has a lot of interesting info, including the designs for the site at Bourke Rd-O'Riordan St, Alexandria, the site at Phillip/Bourke sts at Waterloo and buildings at Victoria Park.

this is back on!!
a section96 has been lodged which means a slight change in design. ive viewed plans and its pretty much same height shape bulk etc. just a floor deleted on lower tower and carparking refige and other small stuff. Hopefully it will start up soon.

this is back on!!
a section96 has been lodged which means a slight change in design. ive viewed plans and its pretty much same height shape bulk etc. just a floor deleted on lower tower and carparking refige and other small stuff. Hopefully it will start up soon.

WOW, can't believe it! Is it for real this time? If Maroun are still developers I'm very sceptical! lol

Can't wait to see those shops demolished and site cleared

The stretch of George St from the Broadway intersection through to Goulburn St is F*CKING HIDEOUS so this will be a welcome development.

i remember talking to maroun a few months back. they said they will start on 10storey office component which fronts george st and build display suite for rear 35storey resi tower and see how it goes.

heres a recent render
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7906/720georgeabm4.jpg

the wind turbines on roof will generate electricity for ground levl areas,

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9227/georgestpodiumcompetitionsubmission031103pa1.jpg

I've seen the guy wearing a skirt in the last render at the right-bottom corner before!! I think he was in one of the Green Square renders.

Very good James. Yes I remember those 2 were in the Green Sq renders (which have since disappeared :redx: . Drat, should've saved 'em on HDD for archival use. The site now takes you to a latin based European language for the project sans the previous renders :dunno: )

Great CUL! I love the sandstone tiling of the base and the high-tech canopy....old-ish meets new. A Starfucks already! :sleepy:

Would be great if someone could PhotoShop a completed E&Y at WS on the first render. Archibald perhaps? http://209.85.12.227/8659/124/emo/scratchchinqg5%5B1%5D.gif Will have to find an appropriate pic of E&Y though. :okay: Possibly in Archives.

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So is this going ahead? I thought it was on hold until the resi market picked up?

At first I was attracted to the blonde with the somewhat 60's fashion catalogue look about her near the starbucks sign and then I saw the carefree sassy swing of the girl walking into Homebar and was drawn to her. But then, in the middle of the two, slightly obscured by a white pilon - black jacket, white skirt, hand on hip, legs to heaven... that's the fem-bot for me.

Hope this gets built soon. renders of the base look quite good.

lol Tony P. Still with the fem-bots, eh? :naughty:

So is this going ahead? I thought it was on hold until the resi market picked up?CUL mentions in post #167 what Maroun's twist on that might be.

Would be great if someone could PhotoShop a completed E&Y at WS on the first render. Archibald perhaps? http://209.85.12.227/8659/124/emo/scratchchinqg5%5B1%5D.gif Will have to find an appropriate pic of E&Y though. :okay: Possibly in Archives.

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Provide the pic of E&Y and it shall be done. EDIT: Don't worry too much about the perspective just need a shot from that end.

This is theee closest I could find. Pic by CULWULLA taken much further up George though. Anyone know of a more suitable pic?

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8120/00000280qs.jpg

So is this going ahead? I thought it was on hold until the resi market picked up?
maybe office component? which are first few floors. i dont think resi tower will start yet. maybe a couple of years.

Tada!

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5797/720georgeabm4ez5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Fantastico! You're theee best in the business Archibald, that's for sure!! :cheer:

ex cellent archi. perfect.
i was talking to planner and she mentioned the 4 storey office section (you can see as dif colour) may start this year due to DA 2yr time limit.when office section built a sales office will be put in there to see the interest in units. obviously when enough sales are purchased in 1 or 2 or 3years time, then resi section will commence.
I have a feeling sales will go ok.
its a great spot (not many George street sites come along often) and Haymarket location is popular!

Yeah it is AN AWESOME location.
Apartment sales will be huge with asians given it's proximity to Chinatown.

Will this 127m thing be visible at all in the syline panorama from the east ( Bellevue Hill, Wastons bay) and the west ( Leichhardt, Concord ) ?????

Also is the 127 height to roof or top of that thing ?? :)

^ its 112m to roof and 127m to wind turbine.nearby Roden cutler is 108m, to give you idea.also 150m Aspect will start to rise in 2007.

I was just poking around the Turner + Associates site (http://www.turnerassociates.com.au/) and found a couple of pictures of what I assume to be their entry in the design comp for this site.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/720.jpg

I like the design that won, but really dig this one. Maybe the yellow was too much for the council? Turner have some interesting ideas - I hope they get a chance to get something like this built in the CBD sooner or later.

FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean we could have gotten this over that shit they chose?

GOD I HATE OUR CITY! EVERYONE ALWAYS PLAYS IT SO SAFE AND BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've seen the guy wearing a skirt in the last render at the right-bottom corner before!! I think he was in one of the Green Square renders.

I think you will find he is holding his jacket! LOL

i was talking to planner and she mentioned the 4 storey office section (you can see as dif colour) may start this year due to DA 2yr time limit.when It will be great to have any movement on the site, even if starting out relatively "small".

It *is* a great location and that part of George St really needs a scraper, albeit not so tall. The design of the set-backs somehow make it seem taller than only 112m and @ first, I thought it could be the render elongation and/or exaggeration, but perhaps just a smidge. Roden Cutler is right there @ said 108m to roof.

So using Roden Cutler House as a yardstick, basically anywhere that is visible from, I imagine this tower would be. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending how you think on heights etc are) though, RC is totally lost on the skyline from afar. The wind-turbined spire of this one may get a shoe-in. lol

*carries over Archibomber's work*

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5797/720georgeabm4ez5.jpg

I found him!!!

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5089/greensquare04hj4.jpg

LOL. Yes, you did indeed, same renderers. James, do you have the early GS renders? Please PM me if you do or not, either way. Thanks in advance.

For comparitive reasons only:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9227/georgestpodiumcompetitionsubmission031103pa1.jpg

OK so it's better than nothing but it could have been more interesting. At least its glass!

BTW why have they placed HOMEBAR in the window ... are they intimating that Home nightclub is considering a move (I assume its artistic licence ... I very much doubt Home will be leaving Cockle Bay!

OK so it's better than nothing but it could have been more interesting. At least its glass!

BTW why have they placed HOMEBAR in the window ... are they intimating that Home nightclub is considering a move (I assume its artistic licence ... I very much doubt Home will be leaving Cockle Bay!

No I have actually heard that HOME might be moving. I heard this when Slide was opening on Oxford Street, as Bigbeat (owners of HOME) either own or part own Slide and I have friends that are connected with the venues. Apparently HOME no longer fits in with the atmosphere of Cockle Bay being a restaurant and family venue and the City of Sydney are keen to have them move elsewhere. I was let quite puzzled by this as when the nightclub opens I would be hoping that most families and children would have long been in bed and if not then families need to deal with the fact that nightclubs will be opening at 11pm or so.
Plus what else would you use the venue for, another restaurant, yeah just what the areas needs *sigh*

wow that render is great !

In today's Daily Telegraph it says that Justin Hemmes, the guy who owns every wank bar in Sydney, is planning to open "yet another multi million dollar pub on George Street". Could this be the site?

In today's Daily Telegraph it says that Justin Hemmes, the guy who owns every wank bar in Sydney, is planning to open "yet another multi million dollar pub on George Street". Could this be the site?

No I think they are talking about the IVY on George Sreet, where Lowes used to be, they are renovating the site and preserving the heritage listed NAB building.

They are talking about the Ivy on George Street.

Meriton have just bought -between HSBC bank and small bldgs adjacent to Roden cutler house which extends back to Cunningham lane which will fill in the gap in below pic
max height is 108m (same height as Roden Cutler) potential 30storeys.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5797/720georgeabm4ez5.jpg

So the site next to or run by The Salvation Army ATM. No wonder Roden Cutler House has blank walls flanking both its western and easter facades. A bit of foresight there by The CSPC...a scraper was always going to go up next to it, and this will be "it".

So @ least 1 scraper, if not 2, near that corner which really needs some umpfff!

i was talking to planner and she mentioned the 4 storey office section (you can see as dif colour) may start this year due to DA 2yr time limit.Well, I guess not this year, as that time has come & gone. So gotta be in the New Year.

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no its not up against rodens blank wall. i said its between HSBC bank and the small bldgs adjacent to roden cutler house.
heres a quick graphic showing sites.
green= 720 george st
red=6-14 campbell st (new meriton project)
blue= roden cutler
orange= aspect


http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4260/graphic3iu8.jpg

Yeah, we're not disagreeing here.

Salvos are where the red area is, and I guess I didn't mean sittting right up flush to Roden Cutler, just beside it. Meriton wouldn't build the tower fronting Campbell - it's a bit too narrow. If anything, the new Meriton job would sit between the south-eastern face of the 720 George St tower and RCH @ the back of the site.

A podium fronting Campbell near or exactly to the height of HSBC and the first major set-back of the 720 George St tower would ideally continue the street-scape.

It's such an odd-shaped site anyway, that anything is possible.

the tower form is identical to 720 george st. 60m at front and 100m+ at rear.
ill let youse know when da comes in.

I noticed the other day that all the shops on the site they want to build this thing on are having closing down sales.

Is this a sign. ?

who knows. i was told a year ago the developer was going to build the 8storey office component and start selling the units for the tower with a display in foyer.
maybe this will happen early 2007.

This reminds me of the Regent Place saga with the stores that seemed to be "closing" for month upon month where lumiere now rises.

Meriton wouldn't build the tower fronting Campbell - it's a bit too narrow.


The probelm is - if they don't, then the entire facade will be lost. You try to go into Mission now, it's like that bit in Lord Of The Rings where they disappear into the crack in the mountain :lol:

the tower form is identical to 720 george st. 60m at front and 100m+ at rear.
ill let youse know when da comes in.^^ As in CUL's quote, 60m max to Campbell.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/MeritonCampbellStSiteA23Dec2006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/MeritonCampbellStSiteB23Dec2006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/MeritonCampbellStSiteC23Dec2006.jpg

a section 96 is in for 720 george st. its now moslty residential.just 2000sqm of office first 2 floors. should start soon. good news

Well now, I did suspect something!

(from my post in the 2007 thread)

"Something is afoot on the site corner of Campbell and George Streets.

On a bus ride down George St yesterday, I noticed that the Sunlord (?) tower across the road from Latitude has a sign declaring that HSBC has leased the ground-floor.

Now HSBC has a branch on the corner of Campbell and George Streets. When the bus passed there, all the cheapo shops were have closing down sales....

If I put two and two together, I'd guess all the tenants are clearing out so the site can be demolished...."

^yes,good spotting. i find it strange they removed the office component from the lower 10 levels and now its basically all-residential. they must realise they will eventually sell. its a top location afterall.

meriton will lodge stage 1 DA anyday now for the 30storey tower between hsbc and roden cutler hs (Mission Aust site).

Well now, I did suspect something!

(from my post in the 2007 thread)

"Something is afoot on the site corner of Campbell and George Streets.

On a bus ride down George St yesterday, I noticed that the Sunlord (?) tower across the road from Latitude has a sign declaring that HSBC has leased the ground-floor.

Now HSBC has a branch on the corner of Campbell and George Streets. When the bus passed there, all the cheapo shops were have closing down sales....

If I put two and two together, I'd guess all the tenants are clearing out so the site can be demolished...."

All shops seem to be open. No sign of demolition...:bash:

LATEST
site has been bought by new developer who is keen on getting this sucker underway.
good news.

Not Meriton. Thats a scoop. With the market showing signs of recovery this one should be ready to go soon :)

Pity they don't join up with the Mission Australia development next door for an even bigger development.

I like the idea of 2 differing designs side-by-side, instead of one fatty of similar height.

lol It had become obvious Maroun didn't have the capital to develop this one. It didn't even spend a cent on trying to raise more capital by advertising apartment sales or opening up a showroom on site as it said it would. At least they made a few bucks by selling the DA.

I wasn't actually thinking of a fatty but rather something more ambitious and soaring b/c of greater fsr from the larger site.
The winning design for 720 is still a good one: I assume - hope - it will survive the wheelin' & dealin'.

LATEST
site has been bought by new developer who is keen on getting this sucker underway.
good news.

Who's the new developer?

ill find out this week.

a Korean company have bought this site and are going to run with it.should start this year.

same desgin that has been kicking around from 2003 ?

^^ oh god I hope not. that thing is hideous.

everything the same. have to or lodge a new DA which takes more time and $$. i dont mind it. i like the wavy balcs and australias first wind turbine on roof!!

everything the same. have to or lodge a new DA which takes more time and $$. i dont mind it. i like the wavy balcs and australias first wind turbine on roof!!

I'm with you. I think it's a cool design and I'm totally down with wind turbines.

yes I am happy with it remaining the same
just thinking as it had been so long thats all

a Korean company have bought this site and are going to run with it.should start this year.:)

That site is kinda doomed (especially when 'Maroun' people keep it for years and then sell to some obscure Korean folks...)

Why not offer the whole block to Meriton and finally see some action? :bash:

This part of George St ( around Capitol Theatre and south of it) needs an urgent overhaul. Bland boxy low to mid rise towers with terrible retail outlets at ground level. It's almost embarrassing.
There is a TERRIBLE beige boxy tower which sits very awkwardly right at the south eastern end of George St, just before the lovely old backpackers building on the Pitt St corner intersection which is simply HIDEOUS.
Great spot for a tall modern glassy tower. :)

the koreans were in last week. they are "defining" the DA. it wont be far away now. Meritons project is being redesigned and will come in also a better more appropriate development. its all good guys. no doom and gloom. these two sites will be up and running come 2008. ;-)

the koreans were in last week. they are "defining" the DA. it wont be far away now. Meritons project is being redesigned and will come in also a better more appropriate development. its all good guys. no doom and gloom. these two sites will be up and running come 2008. ;-)

Hopefully if they're South Koreans they'll bring in a couple of missiles to get the land clearing done quick time. :)

It's only 2-to 3 storey jobs on this site anyhow.

Hard to believe we still have any left in the CBD, but there ya go.

Hopefully if they're South Koreans they'll bring in a couple of missiles to get the land clearing done quick time. :)

That's more likely to be North Koreans

Daeju Housing Pty Ltd have lodged a s96 DA for this site:

Section 96(2) modification to previous development consent for a 36 storey mixed use building seeking changes to the external appearance of the building including the enclosure of balconies, extension of the western podium level to the street edge, modification to the internal apartment layouts, changes to the structural grid, such as the configuration of lifts, stairs and supporting columns, alterations to the ground level retail tenancies and a reduction in the number of car parking spaces from 158 to 123. The changes will result in the FSR increasing from 12.81:1 to 13.40:1.

The DA includes some updated renders (see below). It looks very colourful, so the council are sure to reject it on the basis that the colours detract from the heritage value of the neighbouring footpath and traffic lights.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/720-George-1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/720-George-2.jpg

The architects are Project Architecture and PTW.

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Development/DAsOnExhibition/details.asp?tpk=846362

It doesn't detract anything. A bit of colour wont hurt particularly with the dark, drab office towers located nearby i.e. Roden Cutler House.

the planners love this bldg.especially the colours.the wind turbine looks to have a spire addition. just think, this will be going up same time as meritons next door. lots of construction.

Isn't the colour in the renders from the blinds in each apartment?

no there not blinds, but movable shutters/shade slides.

Looks great! Hope it stays true to render - if it does, then it has been well worth the wait for this one.

Beautiful renders for a beautiful proposal. Thanks vag. Nice to see some clear 'n clean renders on this. This is how resi should be done, with nice lines and colour. Bit of a shame the south-eastern facade/s facing Roden Cutler will be hemmed in by a Meriton on Campbell. Don't let it get blanded down colour-wise, which Council wanted to do with the very first proposal. :nono:

i can't believe that the council is so opposed to colour, they are making the city so bland with their approval of dullness! this will be an eye catching addition for sure. thankgod it's not meriton!!!

Keep the colour: it's terrific. A little bit of 'adventurousness' is needed from time to time and this one looks as though it will work.

just scaled off new DA plans. height to roof is 113m. (was 112m) and wind turbine /spire is now 140m (was 127m). Also it did have 27 floors (now 36).wow/

OK, doesn't take a rocket scientist. Height to roof increases only 1m, but 9 additional floors. No fun in guessing the new developers have lowered the f-c heights to squish 'em in.

i think because last time the lower 15 levels were office floors and top were resi, NOW the whole tower is resi. all floors are now 3m each.
makes sense

Are they keeping the colour?

Does SCC prefer beige Meriton nothing crap for apartment buildings?

looks fantastic!

maybe i'm the only one but i don't like it. not sure why... just looks a little community housing for me and will date really badly.
hope the building proves me wrong when it gets started.

It's a tiny shame that those dirt cheap shops on the site are going. They're handy for buying cheap props for projects.

I love the design and it'll be great at blocking out some of the bulk of Latitude @ World Square.

I am with rob, I don't like it at all. Remove the colours and the design is dull. Add the colours, and the design is cheap and dated. I keep thinking this looks like it belongs on a coastal development by the beach back in the late-1960s early-70s. Still with all the other fugly buildings around that area, I guess it won't look bad in comparison.

I like retro 60 & 70s designs updated with newer materials & technologies, not dull 70s originals though.

they are really restricted on this site. the height and shape envelope is IT! it was always going to be resi and balconies are what makes up resi.
what else can you do with this site? nothing! thats it. be happy.

I think everyone's being a bit hard on this one. It's really not that bad and the little piazza/retail area at the base looks like it could be cool.

Yuck. This building is honestly going to look really, really bad when built. They should keep the shape but make the facade the same as Trump Tower in Chicago. Because multi-coloured on a building is SOOOO 80s..

Because multi-coloured on a building is SOOOO 80s..

I'd prefer a multi-coloured 80s look over the boring white/cream/beige look that's been forced upon Sydney by apartment developers ever since...