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edsg25 November 11th, 2007, 01:11 PM LA neighborhoods are so much about the immigrant groups that live there. Much of the immigration to LA, of course, has been from Latin America and Asia. And LA was, due to its location and realtively small size in the 19th century, never the center for European immigrants that the eastern and middlewestern cities were (and even San Francisco).
Still, LA has had ethnic neighborhoods from the original wave of massive European immigration from the late 19th to early 20th century (although admittedly coming from ethnic Europeans moving from the east and middle west...like the Jewish community on Fairfax).
Are there any neighborhoods in LA today that reflect the European immigration of that era some 100 and more years back (as opposed to,let's say, more recent Russian immigrants)? Are there parts of LA that still come across with strong Italian, Irish, German, etc. roots (I realize that Jewish areas still exist)?
klamedia November 11th, 2007, 06:30 PM I think they all moved out to San Bernadino and Riverside a while ago.
Kingofthehill November 11th, 2007, 06:51 PM Hollywood (all parts) have a sizable Russian/Ukrainian population.
Here's a picture I took of a Russian lady inside a bakery
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/PictureorVideo470.jpg
edsg25 November 11th, 2007, 07:23 PM ^^definitely bagels back there. is it a Russian Jewish neighborhood?
VZN November 11th, 2007, 10:16 PM The closest thing you're gonna see as far an a European-styled neighborhood are the Jewish neighborhoods in the Valley (I know Tarzana has a Jewish community around) and the Russian neighborhoods out in Hollywood... (I think I'm forgetting a few things here, as I'm getting over a bit of a hangover...) but for the most part though a lot of them either assimilated or moved out into the rest of California.
As far as the descendants of those who came to L.A. though, they're still around. Even met some Italians at a party I went to last night... born and raised out here in L.A.
solongfullerton November 11th, 2007, 10:49 PM Although I wouldn't consider it a "community," there is a sizable population of British ex-pats in and around Santa Monica.
svs November 12th, 2007, 12:51 AM The European immigrants in LA have tended to spread out all over the city rather than congregate ina few Neighborhoods. Even the Jewish neighborhood around Fairfax is dissolving. The recent Russian immigrants and the Armenian immigrants are exceptions although I guess Armenia is technically Asian. We do have wonderful ethnic Deli's but you have to know where to go such as Poppa Christo's (Greek), Bay Cities (Italian), Marmiton (French); Tudor House and King's Head (British); and Alpine Village (German). Just Noth of Santa Barbara sits Solvang which is a Scandinavian, mostly Danish village, but it is kind of touristy. Brentwood for some reason has a huge concentration of Italian restaurants, generally high end, not pizzarias, mixed with a lot of Japanese restaurants.
The most concentrated ethnic enclaves in LA are really not European, we have at least three Japan towns, a huge Koreatown, 6-7 Chinese neighborhoods, a huge Vietnamese neighborhood, little Cambodia, several Armenian Towns, and of course Little Ethiopia which has arisen in the southern end of the old Fairfax neighborhood. If you are ever out here, maybe I'll give you a tour.
edsg25 November 12th, 2007, 03:28 AM The European immigrants in LA have tended to spread out all over the city rather than congregate ina few Neighborhoods. Even the Jewish neighborhood around Fairfax is dissolving. The recent Russian immigrants and the Armenian immigrants are exceptions although I guess Armenia is technically Asian. We do have wonderful ethnic Deli's but you have to know where to go such as Poppa Christo's (Greek), Bay Cities (Italian), Marmiton (French); Tudor House and King's Head (British); and Alpine Village (German). Just Noth of Santa Barbara sits Solvang which is a Scandinavian, mostly Danish village, but it is kind of touristy. Brentwood for some reason has a huge concentration of Italian restaurants, generally high end, not pizzarias, mixed with a lot of Japanese restaurants.
The most concentrated ethnic enclaves in LA are really not European, we have at least three Japan towns, a huge Koreatown, 6-7 Chinese neighborhoods, a huge Vietnamese neighborhood, little Cambodia, several Armenian Towns, and of course Little Ethiopia which has arisen in the southern end of the old Fairfax neighborhood. If you are ever out here, maybe I'll give you a tour.
thanks, svs. been to LA many times but never really all that far off the beaten track.
jessemh431 November 12th, 2007, 03:37 AM The Jewish areas are usually mixed with the European areas. I don't think we have Italian areas though.
svs November 12th, 2007, 05:37 AM The Jewish areas are usually mixed with the European areas. I don't think we have Italian areas though.
That's because the whole city is studded with Italian places. You might want to explore this site.
http://www.italianlosangeles.org/
jessemh431 November 12th, 2007, 05:54 AM Wow. I didn't know that. Now that I think about you're right. At my school, off the top of my head, I can think of 17 people with some Italian descent. My best friend actually has an uncle in Mafia who is currently in jail.
neorion November 12th, 2007, 06:19 AM The Greek community is scattered throughout the Los Angeles area, however historically they settled in the downtown area.
Saint Sophia (in Greek Hagia Sophia, meaning Church of Holy Wisdom), was built by Charles Skouras in 1952, in what was then the Greek section of Los Angeles, California. This Greek Orthodox church is the result of a Hollywood success story. When Charles and his brothers, Spyros Skouras and George Skouras were still trying to get ahead in Hollywood, Charles made a vow to God that he would build the most majestic cathedral if God would grant him success in show biz. He got his wish, becoming head of Fox Coast West. A man of his word, Charles built the Saint Sophia in Los Angeles. -wikipedia
St Sophia LA (St Sophia LA)
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2641/zzzlosangelesstsophiaxu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4251/zzstsophia5lm6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
More info (info) about the church and area today.
One of LA's most famous theatres, the Pantages, was built by Greek movie producer, Alexander Pantages. It hosted the Academy Awards for many years and is listed as an historical landmark.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4356/losangelespantages7qj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5504/losangelespantages4yl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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globetrek November 12th, 2007, 09:27 AM I used to live near the Byzantine-Latino quarter near DTLA. There's actually some signs off of Pico and olympic (i think) that say Byzantine-Latino Quarter and there is actually a Greek restaurant/bakery that still is in business there.
edsg25 November 12th, 2007, 12:41 PM Wow. I didn't know that. Now that I think about you're right. At my school, off the top of my head, I can think of 17 people with some Italian descent. My best friend actually has an uncle in Mafia who is currently in jail.
not that there is anything wrong with that.:)
jessemh431 November 12th, 2007, 07:40 PM not that there is anything wrong with that.:)
what do you mean
jessemh431 November 12th, 2007, 07:47 PM EDIT
edsg25 November 13th, 2007, 12:00 AM what do you mean
just an old seinfeld line
svs November 13th, 2007, 12:45 AM I used to live near the Byzantine-Latino quarter near DTLA. There's actually some signs off of Pico and olympic (i think) that say Byzantine-Latino Quarter and there is actually a Greek restaurant/bakery that still is in business there.
Papa Christo's. It's a classic. Also the best place I know to get Greek imports. It's on Pico near Normandie right across from Saint Sophia.
Elsongs November 15th, 2007, 11:12 PM San Pedro - Serbian and Croatian community.
svs November 16th, 2007, 12:34 AM San Pedro - Serbian and Croatian community.
Actually there is a lot of the old Italian community down there as well, but San Pedro is kind of a mish-mosh today with all sorts of communities represented, like most of non Hispanic, non Asian, LA. (Good to hear from you again BTW.)
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