At least, I'm not the only one that is getting banned......;)

Is there a bashing orgy going on here or you are all on pills ?

HAH-HAH, they have democracy! There is no democracy in Middle East or Asia Minor! There is no democracy in a place where a woman gets raped and goes to jail because of it!


Your general knowledge amazes me :lol: Dude you're a joke :lol: :lol:

Hey, "argentine" Turk, did you forget that the Ottoman Empire was the most backward empire in the world? Did you forget this important fact? Not only that, but you are proud of it! Hah-hah, you are so desperate. Look who's talking about complexes!
And who is talking about superiority? Turkey is not compatible to Bulgaria because Turkey is a Middle Eastern country. I am sure that you can compare Turkey to Israel, UAE and etc. Bulgaria is comparable to European countries!

You are such a poor guy :/ I feel pitty for you! You must be so proud to have lands on europe because you mention this so often! I am a Turk, I don't need any continent or region to be proud of.

The game became very rude...attacks and following counter-attacks. Players are getting rude. No yellow cards/red cards till that moment! Where is the referee. Besides, some situations were crying for penalty kick!

Ahh!

that's because Delyan entered the game.

So Turkey and Bulgaria are also joining Schengen in two weeks?

So Turkey and Bulgaria are also joining Schengen in two weeks?

:lol:

^ I forgot to add "congratulations", damn. :laugh:

I can't wait to see the list of banned people as a result of this thread. :D Everyone still surviving?

RIP No border control in 9 more EU states-Schengen.http://forum.softpedia.com/uploads/post-35292-1149105447.gif
November 12th, 2007 - December 6th, 2007 (?)

Hey, "argentine" Turk, did you forget that the Ottoman Empire was the most backward empire in the world? Did you forget this important fact? Not only that, but you are proud of it! Hah-hah, you are so desperate. Look who's talking about complexes!
And who is talking about superiority? Turkey is not compatible to Bulgaria because Turkey is a Middle Eastern country. I am sure that you can compare Turkey to Israel, UAE and etc. Bulgaria is comparable to European countries!

you really have some serious issues.. so much hatred.. pfff...

Well at least I had an empire and don't call other's empires as backward because I had never one ;)

^^You had your own personal empire? Man, you're so cool! Can I be your friend?:lol:

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Leave Turkey alone here:bash:

The Ottoman Empire was technologically behind in the last 100 years of its existence...for the rest of the time it was thriving...

If it was'nt for the Vienna defeat in 1529...Europe would have looked diferent now.

You know what they say in Turkey, right? Turkey may not be Europe, but some time ago, a big chunk of Europe was Turkey:lol::cheers:

Leave Turkey alone here:bash:

The Ottoman Empire was technologically behind in the last 100 years of its existence...for the rest of the time it was thriving...

If it was'nt for the Vienna defeat in 1529...Europe would have looked diferent now.

Or another battle in Vienna in 1683 when Polish king Jan III Sobieski stopped the Turkish advancing in Europe and when he sacked their camp he found a lot of coffee beans and supposedly the aftermath of it were the first Viennese coffee houses. But the Austrians were not very thankful to us as they incorporated a large part of southern Poland merely 100 years after this event. But still despite many wars Poles and Turks fought in XVII century, the Ottoman Empire was the only country that didn't recognize the partition of Poland and when the sultan was receiving foreign ambassadors, when they mentioned Poland it was always said "he hasn't arrived yet".

^^ There is some myth about the croissants, according to it, they are not a French invention but a Viennese one. After the Ottoman defeat at Vienna, the locals invented it. It had the shape of the Ottoman crescent, hence the word "croissant" is very close to "crescent".

^^ It's not a myth, it's a fact. Some people or many people might think and say that Turkey doesn't belong to Euope but historicaly, economicaly a politicaly seen Turkey is part of it. Turkey contributed in all these aspects more than many existing EU members. So these people who say that Turkey doesn't belong Europe should be honest and say the real reason why they don't want Turkey inside Europe, namely because of its religion!

^^ It's not a myth, it's a fact. Some people or many people might think and say that Turkey doesn't belong to Euope but historicaly, economicaly a politicaly seen Turkey is part of it. Turkey contributed in all these aspects more than many existing EU members. So these people who say that Turkey doesn't belong Europe should be honest and say the real reason why they don't want Turkey inside Europe, namely because of its religion!

I call these people Orthodox Talibans, that's what they are!

namely because of its religion!

Yes, that's the truth. Like a lot of people, I don't like the islam too. IMO Turkey will never become an EU member because of this reason.

because Turkey will force everyone in the EU to convert, right?! At least there are some honest people.

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It's a pain to see what people (or Arabs) made of Islam nowadays. Even 20 years ago it was not as dark and brutal it is today but judging Turkey by this is backward behaviour too!

Probably because there are problems with Muslim communities all over Europe, dunno.

Anyway, Europe is just a continent, a geographical term. You can't belong to Europe economically or politically...cause it's neither a political, nor an economic term.

Yes, that's the truth. Like a lot of people, I don't like the islam too. IMO Turkey will never become an EU member because of this reason.

What's the difference btw Islam or Christianism anyway? It's the same religious brainwash If you ask me....

If you don't like Turkey and Islam why the hack for the last 17 years the Turks are part of your government and run the country? I never heard of Bulgarian ministries in the Ankara government!

Why don't you all just forget about religion and God (any god!) and hug each other?:lol:

Seriously now, why is Christianity better than Islam?! Or rather, why do some of you think that way, and why do you discriminate people based on their religious beliefs?

What's the difference btw Islam or Christianism anyway? It's the same religious brainwash If you ask me....

If you don't like Turkey and Islam why the hack for the last 17 years the Turks are part of your government and run the country? I never heard of Bulgarian ministries in the Ankara government!

The more interesting question for you: why there aren't Hungarian people in your Governments since you are teaching the others in tolerance?

Don't take it as an offence though :) I don't like radicalism in all of its form, so the radical atheism is just as bad as religious fundamentalism :)

What's the difference btw Islam or Christianism anyway? It's the same religious brainwash If you ask me....

If you don't like Turkey and Islam why the hack for the last 17 years the Turks are part of your government and run the country? I never heard of Bulgarian ministries in the Ankara government!

I've always hate Ahmed Dogan(the leader of the turkish party)..Also he was always elected with the votes of the Bulgarian turks who live in Turkey, but when the elections come they're more Bulgarians than me. :bash:

I've always hate Ahmed Dogan(the leader of the turkish party)..Also he was always elected with the votes of the Bulgarian turks who live in Turkey, but when the elections come they're more Bulgarians than me. :bash:

as a Turk whose family immigrated from Bulgaria, i have never interested in Bulgarian politics... I dont know who is leader of the country, who is pm, who is president, which kind of political parties do you have...

You are our neighbour but I know nothing about your country even it's my familiy's mother land... and be sure %98 of our population do not know anything about you and not interested in there!

The more interesting question for you: why there aren't Hungarian people in your Governments since you are teaching the others in tolerance?
But there are! Not Hungarians, but ethnic Hungarians (Romanian citizens).

What's the difference btw Islam or Christianism anyway? It's the same religious brainwash If you ask me....

If you don't like Turkey and Islam why the hack for the last 17 years the Turks are part of your government and run the country? I never heard of Bulgarian ministries in the Ankara government!

For the same reasons that you have Hungarians in your government and parliament. It's democracy after all. :)

The more interesting question for you: why there aren't Hungarian people in your Governments since you are teaching the others in tolerance?

Don't take it as an offence though :) I don't like radicalism in all of its form, so the radical atheism is just as bad as religious fundamentalism :)

There are, and have been in Governemnt for the last 8 years....and got 3 seats for the Europeapean Parliament.

And I love Hungary and Budapest, no matter how much they hate us...

^^ Ahmed Dogan is an ex-commie secret service agent, he took place in the commies' Revival process which lead to expulsing several thousands of Turks in Turkey. Interestingly, he has a party that pretends to be defending the rights of minorities (especially Turkish). This may sound funny if you don't know what the communists really are. And since many of the politicians are former communists (especially in our current Government) and share their old little secrets, he is an important figure in the political life in Bulgaria. Shameful and disgusting, but...that's the reality :(

For the same reasons that you have Hungarians in your government and parliament. It's democracy after all. :)

So accept it. He hates the idea of Turkey being in Europe but in these moments you have Turkish ministers runing Bulgaria..

So accept and live with the idea to have a Turkish commissioner running the Comptetition policy of the EU...sometime in the future

And I love Hungary and Budapest, no matter how much they hate us...
A love them too! And I really like Hungarians, but sane Hungarians don't hate us, just as sane Romanians don't hate Hungarians. It's these sane people I give a damn about.:)

A little cute story....

I got a fellwoship 4 years ago at the METU University in Ankara...So I got to know a Turkish girl there....and was walking her home very late into the night...Somehow, I managed to get lost in those suburbs....and found myself in the middle of nowhere after midnight....was really nothing arround...no houses, no lights...no road...and suddenly 4 guys got into my way...

Everywhere else...chances to get rubbed and stubbed would be 60 to 70 percent, but what those guys did was to show me where to find a taxi and lead me to a main road...!

And all my experiences were like that. I expected the worse, but the reality was so much different. Everywhere I would go to people would invite me for a tea.....etc

There is smth about Turkey that I find very appealing...its naivity, and decency of the people that I think is nowhere to be found in Romania at least these days...

So accept it. He hates the idea of Turkey being in Europe but in these moments you have Turkish ministers runing Bulgaria..

So accept and live with the idea to have a Turkish commissioner running the Comptetition policy of the EU...sometime in the future

I think he hates Muslims, not Turks. BTW there are Muslim Bulgarians too..

the reason why there are ethnic Turks in the Bulgarian Parliament is because they have constitutionally illegal party. Turks are about 8% of the overall population but our government was stupid enough to those who live in Turkey (previously BG) Bulgarian passports. So now when there are elections, the border is filled with buses of voters going to SE Bulgaria to vote. I don't even know where to begin....... the whole situation is so fucked up that it disgusts me to no end. Imagine people who don't give a shit about your country voting on its future :bash::ohno:

^^ Ahmed Dogan is an ex-commie secret service agent, he took place in the commies' Revival process which lead to expulsing several thousands of Turks in Turkey. Interestingly, he has a party that pretends to be defending the rights of minorities (especially Turkish). This may sound funny if you don't know what the communists really are. And since many of the politicians are former communists (especially in our current Government) and share their old little secrets, he is an important figure in the political life in Bulgaria. Shameful and disgusting, but...that's the reality :(


But your president (a Bulgarian) is an informer of the old secret police!!!:bash::bash:

I think he hates Muslims, not Turks. BTW there are Muslim Bulgarians too..

That's right....the Pomaks in the South...but there are like 20 per cent of Muslims in Bulgaria...it's like hating your own country!!

But your president (a Bulgarian) is an informer of the old secret police!!!:bash::bash:

Yes, he's from the Socialist party after all. They are the best friends with the so-called "Turkish" party which claims to be liberal party or something like that. Anyway, they have only 2 years left...anyone hates them now.

That's right....the Pomaks in the South...but there are like 20 per cent of Muslims in Bulgaria...it's like hating your own country!!

Man, you don't like Orthodox "brainwashed" people. What percentage of the Romanians are Orthodox?

Btw, they are 11-12% (the Muslims).

Dogan and his punks are trying very hard to brainwash Pomaks into making them Turks. That is they are using religion as their tool and unfortunately they have some success. The Rodope region where Pomaks live is so heavily influenced by the turks that it's almost impossible to escape the propaganda. the turks control the local govt., businesses, mosques, women are covered, you would think you were in central Turkey or something. As a result a lot of Pomaks give in to these bastards and turn against local Christians even though they are their own blood, both are Bulgarians. The only solution is the elimination of DPS but knowing how corrupt the govt. is, might as well forget it.

Corneliu, if you are really interested about Turkish movement in BG I recommend you watch the documentary "Novoto Robstvo" = "The New Yoke". In Bulgarian only. You can find it on Google video.

Yes, he's from the Socialist party after all. They are the best friends with the so-called "Turkish" party which claims to be liberal party or something like that. Anyway, they have only 2 years left...anyone hates them now.

Did'nt Parvanov win the presidency after accepting being an informer???

Man, you don't like Orthodox "brainwashed" people. What percentage of the Romanians are Orthodox?

Btw, they are 11-12% (the Muslims).



Maybe because many Bulgarian Turks left for Turkey in search for a better life....

P.S. All Romanian are baptised (brainwashed) Orthodox since they're born. But not me...

^^ No, it was made known later, after they made some kind of secret services files commission.

@zzbit, that movie is a propaganda made by Ataka (TV SKAT). Some of that is indeed true, but some is pure crap and exageration.

Yes I know, but it is worth watching regardless. there is some truth to it.

Corneliu, if you are really interested about Turkish movement in BG I recommend you watch the documentary "Novoto Robstvo" = "The New Yoke". In Bulgarian only. You can find it on Google video.


Are you a Patriots fan too? You know...I hate them:bash:

don't be a hater, I am Pats superfan. It's not my fault the rest of the NFL can't keep up with NE and later teams cry because they get spanked. Put up or shut up, they get paid millions to PLAY. I know u got some big QB issues in Chitown?

Have you been watching the Celtics? Now that's some story right there.

don't be a hater, I am Pats superfan. It's not my fault the rest of the NFL can't keep up with NE and later teams cry because they get spanked. Put up or shut up, they get paid millions to PLAY. I know u got some big QB issues in Chitown?

Have you been watching the Celtics? Now that's some story right there.

Damn, bro, you sound so American.:nuts: Do you tailgate before the games?

don't be a hater, I am Pats superfan. It's not my fault the rest of the NFL can't keep up with NE and later teams cry because they get spanked. Put up or shut up, they get paid millions to PLAY. I know u got some big QB issues in Chitown?

Have you been watching the Celtics? Now that's some story right there.

That's the thread I want..:cheers:

Religous hatred = BAD:bash:

Sports hatred = Good:cheers:

I only watch NFL...Your game with the Ravens was a disaster...keep up the good work:cheers:

Hope the Steelers will get you...:lol:

Yup it's a great time to be a Boston sports fan. Now only if I could get some tickets...it's almost impossible unless you are a CEO or up there:ohno:

ps. I haven't tailgated. I hate NE weather, brrrr. It's snowing again.

I only watch NFL...Your game with the Ravens was a disaster...keep up the good work:cheers:

Hope the Steelers will get you...:lol:

yea, last 2 games sucked but it shows resilience. Steelers game should be good. Make sure to watch the Patriots-Jets game. Belichik is gonna light them up after they called us cheaters in Sept. My prediction 50-7. Let me guess, you are betting on us losing at least 1 game? :)

Yup it's a great time to be a Boston sports fan. Now only if I could get some tickets...it's almost impossible unless you are a CEO or up there:ohno:

ps. I haven't tailgated. I hate NE weather, brrrr. It's snowing again.

The Red Sox rock this year. They have been on a spree ever since the overturn of the curse. :ohno:

Tailgaiting is the fun part! I do it when I watch college football (Univ. of Florida) in Florida. You are tight that the weather sucks for this type of "activity" right now. In summer, though, it's perfect!!!

How are the Green Bay Packers doing this year? Bred Farv still plays?

yea, last 2 games sucked but it shows resilience. Steelers game should be good. Make sure to watch the Patriots-Jets game. Belichik is gonna light them up after they called us cheaters in Sept. My prediction 50-7. Let me guess, you are betting on us losing at least 1 game? :)

No! I bet on the Dolphins winning 1 game:lol:

How are the Green Bay Packers doing this year? Bred Farv still plays?

They're 10-2 I think...they're good but Dallas looks better..

Brett Favre is in good shape..still has it:cheers:

^^ they are a disgrace to Florida football lol. probably spend all their time snorting coke in Miami Beach and fall flat on their faces on game day.

^^ they are a disgrace to Florida football lol. probably spend all their time snorting coke in Miami Beach and fall flat on their faces on game day.

Aren't Tampa bay from Florida too?:) I like the Bucs coach Gruden, the guy that sleeps 5 hours a day and drives to work at 4 a.m.:cheers:

NB, speaking of tailgating u should have seen what the area next to my school's stadium looked like after homecoming. thousands of empty beer cans, vodka bottles, beer boxes. place was a complete mess and no one gave a shit :lol:

Aren't Tampa bay from Florida too?:) I like the Bucs coach Gruden, the guy that sleeps 5 hours a day and drives to work at 4 a.m.:cheers:

might as well sleep on cause they still suck. his loss if u ask me.

NB, speaking of tailgating u should have seen what the area next to my school's stadium looked like after homecoming. thousands of empty beer cans, vodka bottles, beer boxes. place was a complete mess and no one gave a shit :lol:

I like that! Sounds balkanic:cheers:

^^ 15000 college students. btw my school (UMass) nickname is ZooMass. it absolutely lives up to the name too:lol::cheers:

Do you know guys that Turkey is the only European country to have a NFL-style competition??

www.nfltr.com

I know u got some big QB issues in Chitown?

Our season turned from bad to worse...Grossman is out and Griese...let's say he is just not up to the job...

I don't get it, you are a Chicago fan who lives in Paris/Bucharest?

I don't get it, you are a Chicago fan who lives in Paris/Bucharest?

it's a long story....but smth like that....

cool. I am off to watch my Celtics play Toronto. It's funny how sports ended up cleaning all the political bs above. good change of direction.

cool. I am off to watch my Celtics play Toronto. It's funny how sports ended up cleaning all the political bs above. good change of direction.

That was my strategy right from beginning:cheers:
Instead of closing down threads, I hijack them:lol:

Not a chance for a 500 team like Toronto....

You all f**ed this great thread with this off topic sport discussion:bash:






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^^ You're f***ing it up with your ugly avatar! :bash:

You all f**ed this great thread with this off topic sport discussion:bash:
:D

You should rather thank me for saving your country's ass...There was a lot of bashing on Turkey in this thread and I took the hits for you...

A little cute story....

I got a fellwoship 4 years ago at the METU University in Ankara...So I got to know a Turkish girl there....and was walking her home very late into the night...Somehow, I managed to get lost in those suburbs....and found myself in the middle of nowhere after midnight....was really nothing arround...no houses, no lights...no road...and suddenly 4 guys got into my way...

Everywhere else...chances to get rubbed and stubbed would be 60 to 70 percent, but what those guys did was to show me where to find a taxi and lead me to a main road...!

And all my experiences were like that. I expected the worse, but the reality was so much different. Everywhere I would go to people would invite me for a tea.....etc

There is smth about Turkey that I find very appealing...its naivity, and decency of the people that I think is nowhere to be found in Romania at least these days...


That's it! That's what hurts me most! In general we are such a warm people, there is absolutly no reason to hate us. You can ask for an address and people will invite you to drink a tea, that's so simple! But many have some kind of image which is given them probably by their grandparents which doesn't reflect the reality and so there exist people like Delyan that hate Turkey/Turks without knowing the reason actually. The more backward a country the more you'll find of these people. But this problem will be solved with social and economical development. Nowadays a French does not hate a German or a Brit although they were the biggest enemies.