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KFHMB plans to build Malaysia’s tallest building
by Ellina Badri
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KUALA LUMPUR: Kuwait Finance House (Malaysia) Bhd (KFHMB) is teaming up with a local bank to jointly develop the country’s tallest building that will overtake the Petronas Twin Towers.

Its managing director, Datuk K Salman Younis said it would be “a high-end real estate project that will stand taller than the Petronas Twin Towers”.

Speaking to The Edge Financial Daily, he said the JV with the property arm of a local bank had just been approved yesterday, and work on the project would begin next year

Declining to elaborate further on the project, Salman could only say that further announcements on the project would be made soon.

On KFHMB, he said the Islamic banking group planned to open two or three new branches in the Iskandar Development Region (IDR) and Taman Molek in Johor early next year.

Speaking to reporters after hosting a media tutorial on Islamic banking and finance here yesterday, Salman said KFHMB also planned to open branches in Penang and Kuching within three months and to start its marketing efforts in Sabah early next year.

“KFH already has some customers in Sandakan. We plan to build our presence in Sabah,” he said. KFHMB, the first foreign Islamic bank to be licensed by the Ministry of Finance, currently operates two branches in Kuala Lumpur and one in Shah Alam.

In August, KFHMB announced it would jointly develop a 902.4ha land in the IDR with Mubadala Development Co and Millennium Development International Co for RM4.2 billion. This will involve the building of three clusters, namely a lifestyle and leisure cluster, a cultural cluster and a financial district in the IDR’s first integrated international city.

Last week KFHMB had said it would jointly team up with local real estate investor Prestige Scale Sdn Bhd to fund the RM577 million Glomac Tower project in Kuala Lumpur.

Salman had said both companies would be involved in the on-block purchase of the 36-storey class A commercial office block. The project is to start soon and is expected to be completed within two-and-a-half years.

Meanwhile, it was also reported that the Islamic bank was in discussions with investors from Australia, China, Indonesia, Singapore and the Middle East to jointly develop its 252.5ha land in Bandar Nusajaya, near the Johor State New Administrative Centre project in the IDR.

where? where? where??

n the height.. oh coz la between 452m and 818m :cheers: :cheers:

so KFH jv with our local bank.. bank ape ye ?

maybank...ha ha :D

maybank...ha ha :D

they have to demolish their current HQ dulu la :D

they have to demolish their current HQ dulu la :D

no need to demolish the current one lah ;)

izit posible ??

World renowned architect sasses out Malaysia for a major project
Saturday November 10, 2007
By TEE LIN SAY
TheStar (http://biz.thestar.com.my/bizweek/story.asp?file=/2007/11/10/bizweek/19340918&sec=bizweek)


OVER the week, some of Malaysia's most prominent corporate movers and shakers were treated to the magnificent view of the Burj in Dubai – a tower building, which at 2,313 ft over reaches any other tower in the world, with a stunning swirl silhouette and shape inspired by the desert flowers that often appear as patterns in Islamic structures.

The three-hour presentation and tour by the project's main developer of the “sky-breaking tower” must have been awe-inspiring. In fact, already, the Burj, as it stands today in its incomplete form (expected year of completion is 2009), is the tallest building in the planet and is said to be going for a whopping RM11,000 per sq feet onwards.

“I was highly impressed,” says one businessman, who was part of a delegation led by the Kuala Lumpur Business Club for a business mission to the United Arab Emirates. Puns aside, it's hard not to be impressed with one of the world's most magnificent structures born from the union of form and function – that which drives and inspires the world of architecture.

Mustafa Kemal Abadan, design partner in world-famous architect firm New York-based Skidmore, Owings and Merrill (SOM) which designed the Burj, bridged the gap between the stunning innovation and Malaysia recently with his visit to Kuala Lumpur.






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Mustafa: Malaysia is a vibrant city and I am delighted to be part of it






That he was here in KL is fodder for imagination and speculation; it is believed that he is undertaking to design a unique structure in one of the city's hotspots. In an interview with BizWeek however, Mustafa is careful not to divulge any details on the project but lends his views on Malaysia's landscape and structures from his observation following an intensive two day-visit.

Mustafa himself may need no introduction, for his is a name that has long found a star spot in the world's most established and well regarded architect circles, with a career spanning two decades and many continents. His signature projects include the Time Warner Centre in New York, the AIG Tower in Hong Kong, Lotte Super Tower in Seoul, South Korea and Bridging the Rift Centre in Jordan.

Mustafa joined SOM New York in 1983 and became a design partner in 1996. In terms of trade volume, SOM is one of the top three architectural firms in the world and has been involved with a “staggering number of important buildings” and has received over 800 design awards from its 10,000 jobs all over the world.

Its show stopping structures include Chicago's 110-story Sears tower (this building held the accolade as the world's tallest building until Malaysia's Petronas Twin Towers took the honour), China's Pearl River Tower (ongoing) which promises to be the world's greenest skyscraper and the 7 World Trade Centre in New York. Last year, the firm celebrated its 70th anniversary.

“Malaysia is a vibrant city and I am delighted to be part of it,” he says. Mustafa's work requires him to tap the sensitivities and cultural context of a country and location in making architecture to ensure that it possesses its own unique social and physical relevance. As such and understandably so, his short visit to KL was packed with visits to key spots such as museums and the Putrajaya administrative centre among many others.

Mustafa says he tries to avoid having preconceived notions when visiting a country for the first time. His recent trip, incidentally, happens to be his first to Malaysia.

“Malaysia is a mixture of many. It is vibrant. Probably the most interesting part is the active life. This is what differentiates it from Singapore which has a sort of uniformity.”

He is surprised to have discovered Malaysia's topography: “I didn't expect Malaysia to have mountains.”

“In Seoul for instance, there are strong mountains. This is an important aspect of a city, and I was enthused by this place. I was born in Turkey, so water, topography and history are major components of what constitutes a city,” he adds.

Mustafa points out that Malaysia's skyline is not dominated by a single force; in fact, it is “multi-centred”. For instance, there is one centre in KLCC, and another in KL Sentral.

“I would say Malaysia feels more real. There is a greater vibrancy that I can sense in the city. The context of the city is more differentiated. In Singapore, the concentration is going downtown. It is more controlled and planned,” he says.

He adds that his real-life view of the much talked about Kuala Lumpur twin towers was rather surprising as it veered somewhat from his impression of it prior to this visit: “I actually had a preconceived notion that the twin towers would be more free standing than it actually was. I thought it was standalone, and that I would only see it once I got into the park. But there were lots of built areas around it and the place was bustling.”

He adds that the twin towers was a bold and strong statement and an important point in history as it put Malaysia on the map.

“I think it would be good for Malaysia to add more towers. This could bring more positive development over time, gravitating living conditions to these centres,” he says.






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A project by SOM New York – the Time Warner Centre in New York






Scaling heights

Robust economic changes result in more widespread urbanisation as the city expands. In fact, towers are largely deemed as economic necessities that accompany growth where land is also scarce. Rapid development, more often than not, boosts the population on the back of rising migration into the city. This presents itself with a different set of infrastructure requirements, which need to be addressed as quickly and efficiently as possible, says Mustafa.

He adds that there is now a move to build homes where people can live and work in an integrated way. The reliance on cars is gradually becoming less sustainable. Nonetheless, he adds that this does not encourage architectural growth as the demand is for functional houses.

“The quest for better architecture comes when the economy settles down. It is happening in China. At the moment, the type of projects that can elevate architecture are still in the minority,” he says.

Mustafa says that urban issues are hard to solve. Almost all cities in emerging markets are struggling to reorder themselves in terms of traffic, safety and cost and environment.

Cities with stronger governmental structure have an advantage in planning, as it can override the city council's decision for the betterment of the economy.

“There are advantages and disadvantages of a city being controlled. In very highly developed countries, there is much more regulation. This confines the city within certain parameters. New York for example is a very regulated city hence there is a need to think about maximising space,” he says.

Mustafa feels that cities that try to create an identity for itself benefit in the long run as people may generally have similar needs but there are regional, cultural and social differences.

“In the late 80s and 90s, because of the post modernisation push, classical buildings sprung up all over the world, but these buildings had no roots. They had no links to history or culture. It was pure aesthetics! To me, this is useless.”

Mustafa says that there should be a perfect balance between form and function. An important element which needs to be paid due attention in the designing process is the location.

“I am interested in where the building is built. What can be around it, and what cannot. The orientation of the building, where and what it faces. We want to anchor the architecture to the sociology of the place. We want to create a context to where there is uniqueness to the place.”

“That is why two buildings in two countries will be designed in completely different ways. Rules change for each country. The form that makes the building will create the context of that area,” says Mustafa.

Towers as symbols

Post 9/11, it was generally perceived that the fascination over towers, given their security risk, would have fizzled somewhat.

Contrary to expectations however, Mustafa says there are in fact more skyscrapers on the drawing boards.

“9/11 was a blip in how people viewed towers. People need to separate the issue of 9/11, especially when looking at a tower in a dense city. Cities can't just expand horizontally. People who stay a far distance from the city have to drive to work. You need to address this need,” he says.

Mustafa adds that a city is better off when there is greater density. And contrary to popular belief, towers aren't just for abstract purposes.

It feeds the need for greater density. As the city expands, the only way for these buildings is to go up. “The taller the building, the higher the cost. Buildings that go beyond 20-30 storey have specific reasons. It is built because of symbolic reasons. For instance, the KLCC allows Malaysia to stand out and make its own statement,” says Mustafa.

In the US, the Freedom Tower, which is the replacement of the World Trade Centre following the terrorist attacks on Sept 11, 2001, is more of a symbol of inspiration and an enduring beacon of the New York City skyline rather than anything else.

The Freedom Tower will soar 1,776 ft into the sky and is designed with the classic touch of typical New York skyscrapers while also taking reference from the torch of the Statue of Liberty. The tower is designed by architect David Childs of SOM.

“Super tall towers are on the rise. I am surprised by how many tall buildings are being built. There's going to be a limit to it. One can even built up to 1,000m, which is going to be twice the height of KLCC, but this comes at a great cost,” he says.

For instance, the Burj Dubai, which is going to be the tallest tower in the world is a symbol of Dubai's central role in the global market. It is an icon of the new Middle East – successful, dynamic and prosperous.

“In Dubai, there is little land available. But wealth in the population needs to find an outlet.

“In the end, it always comes down to economics,” he says.

WONDERFUL, POSSIBLE

i'll do some research on this and hopefully can find more info somewhere...

my GUESS is in KL and Maybank or CIMB is the local bank

n the height.. oh coz la between 452m and 818m :cheers: :cheers:

so KFH jv with our local bank.. bank ape ye ?

maybank...ha ha :D

WONDERFUL, POSSIBLE

i'll do some research on this and hopefully can find more info somewhere...

my GUESS is in KL and Maybank or CIMB is the local bank



I would have guessed KL because foreign companies are more savvy than to build something this tall in the middle of nowhere.

However it did mentioned that it would be a JV with the 'property arm of a local bank'. The only bank that I could think of that have a strong 'property arm' is Hong Leong which property arm under the 'guoco' brand have presence in a lot of countries. And Hong Leong are also in business with KFH on the Oval Suites.

So yea....my take is Hong Leong :yes:

my research currently tells me that .. KFH is buying into MBSB, and ...
Still can't find any link between KFH and property except the one in IDR.

I can't believe that this project has been approved by the authorities because all of this time the Petronas tower has been popular as our significant landmark.

err.. is this for real!? :nuts:

I can't believe that this project has been approved by the authorities because all of this time the Petronas tower has been popular as our significant landmark.

Petronas tower was built during Dr Mahathir era. So now Pak Lah want something more popular and taller in his era :)

me prefer they build this tower in SJER or NCER to boast more standard there.plus,too many sentimental value lah our PTT.kinda sad to see other building taller than them in KL imo. :)

I would not mind at all since almost every decade there will be new tallest building in Malaysia just like Komtar in the 80's, then the Maybank, then now the PTT...

As long it could enhance the skyline (if it is built in KL) and iconic looking, it would just add into our country list of iconic skyscraper design, i think great for tourism ...so, the important thing of our skyscraper is that it should be distinctive regardless of height...

AMAZING NEWS!

Petronas tower was built during Dr Mahathir era. So now Pak Lah want something more popular and taller in his era :)

actually i'm beginning to doubt this project...

we just have to wait till the official annoucement...

Great news!! Why don't we get some ideas from those vision buildings from Japan like X seed 4000 or Aeropolis 2001? LOL. Any news? :)

This is my wild guess, they probably wanted to put Damansara or PJ in world map? PJ is booming. The contruction site will probably be located at current UM area with Damansaray City from P&T / GuocoLand? Read in Damansara City forum there that those projects could cost 10bils? Should start to invest in Damansara/PJ area now perhaps...

I can't believe that this project has been approved by the authorities because all of this time the Petronas tower has been popular as our significant landmark.

Petronas tower was built during Dr Mahathir era. So now Pak Lah want something more popular and taller in his era :)

me prefer they build this tower in SJER or NCER to boast more standard there.plus,too many sentimental value lah our PTT.kinda sad to see other building taller than them in KL imo. :)

I would not mind at all since almost every decade there will be new tallest building in Malaysia just like Komtar in the 80's, then the Maybank, then now the PTT...

As long it could enhance the skyline (if it is built in KL) and iconic looking, it would just add into our country list of iconic skyscraper design, i think great for tourism ...so, the important thing of our skyscraper is that it should be distinctive regardless of height...



Taller doesn't mean that it would be iconic. It would be hard to take away the limelight from PTT even if this tower is the world's tallest.

Look at Taipei 101. It is not as iconic as PTT and it does not symbolises Taipei as PTT does for KL. That goes for Sears.

Remember the NYC WTC? It is not as iconic as the Chrysler Building or the Empire State Building although it is taller than those 2 grand dames. In fact the WTC was once the tallest buildings in the world. ;)

Trust me, it is hard to overshadow the twins :yes:

Petronas tower was built during Dr Mahathir era. So now Pak Lah want something more popular and taller in his era :)you know what they say about the "edifice complex"....

In HK they are brutally honest about their buildings...so they have the "candle" (with a pool at the top for good fung shui), the "many- a**eholes-building" and most recently, "YK Pao's-Last Erection"

take a look at a photo of the HK skyline and figure out which buildings Im talking about...

Cheers, m

ps. I like his observations on KL and other cities...but I really hope he did not say "Malaysia is a vibrant city...." as the Star put in the caption under his photo....

Taller doesn't mean that it would be iconic. It would be hard to take away the limelight from PTT even if this tower is the world's tallest.

Look at Taipei 101. It is not as iconic as PTT and it does not symbolises Taipei as PTT does for KL. That goes for Sears.

Remember the NYC WTC? It is not as iconic as the Chrysler Building or the Empire State Building although it is taller than those 2 grand dames. In fact the WTC was once the tallest buildings in the world. ;)

Trust me, it is hard to overshadow the twins :yes:

You think why the Four Seasons tower has been scaled down from 70 to 60 storeys...?

PTT kan WTB so don't worry la about it.. even HK n Shanghai ade tower lg tinggi, tapi x dpt status masyur/Agung WTB :)

Why still think that it will shadow the PTT ...as it might not even build beside that building... or around KLCC...

NYC has WTC.. doesn't mean Miami or Las Vegas cannot have their taller building ...Get that?

Honestly, I do hope that this building would be built within Putrajaya Precinct 4 CBD.

Potential site in KL:
1) Former Bok house site
2) Plaza Rakyat - Rejuvenation effort.
3) Bukit Bintang City Centre - Pudu Jail site

And, it might be built in Nusajaya afterall as KFH has massive landbank over there...

ahha.. i think the Bok House site???

You think why the Four Seasons tower has been scaled down from 70 to 60 storeys...?

becoz it'll ruin the skyline of KLCC.. tall is never good if it looks crap.. we'll just hav to wait and see..

I found this.... hahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/2986/52994645iq7.jpg

Patchay...you are very funny....That picture has reminded me that Malaysia has actually sent someone to the space for no reason..

:lol::lol:

Just build more tallest building..commercial buildings..
kl skyline doesn't look good with many short buildings (below 50) especially the condo's. :ohno:

You think why the Four Seasons tower has been scaled down from 70 to 60 storeys...?


The 'reason' for the scaling down of the Four Seasons is just rumours if you remember it correctly. Until I actually heard anything direct from Petronas or the developer of the Four Seasons saying that they scaled it down because it might overshadow the twins, then I would believe that the rumours are indeed true :yes:

PTT kan WTB so don't worry la about it.. even HK n Shanghai ade tower lg tinggi, tapi x dpt status masyur/Agung WTB :)


What you talking? :?

In case you didn't already know, PTT ceased to be the world's tallest building since October 2003. :yes:

Honestly, I do hope that this building would be built within Putrajaya Precinct 4 CBD.

Potential site in KL:
1) Former Bok house site
2) Plaza Rakyat - Rejuvenation effort.
3) Bukit Bintang City Centre - Pudu Jail site

And, it might be built in Nusajaya afterall as KFH has massive landbank over there...



Aiyoh.......building something tall at Putrajaya or Nusajaya would totally be a white elephant not to mention it would stick out like a sore thumb. Look at KOMTAR.......do you think it looks good? Tall buildings generally looks better (functions better too) if they are clustered together.

In fact the reason for skyscrapers to exist in the first place is because there are no place for building except for upwards and such phenomenon only exist in dense cities. :yes:

let's just hope that they won't put a 200m spire on top of the building in order to make it taller than Petronas Twin Towers.

wow...is an amazing news. I wish to hv a building which is taller than PTT long time ago. Better to have it built in KL, and i think it will be built in KL too. I dont think they want it to be built in a not very develope city like penang or Jb. It is not making sense if u say it will helps to boom the economy of a city just by building a tallest malaysia building. i'm quite boring to c PTT dominate the Kl skyline, so lets buit it in KL so we can experience the changes of skyline. ;)

let's just hope that they won't put a 200m spire on top of the building in order to make it taller than Petronas Twin Towers.

I don't think there is 200m spire, apart from making a skyscraper look pretty unbalanced, most spires in skyscrapers (including the PTT), are much lower than 100 m....

I hope the tower will be the tallest in Asia, over 100 stories and with an observation deck and restaurants and bars on the top floor.

I hope the tower will be the tallest in Asia, over 100 stories and with an observation deck and restaurants and bars on the top floor.


If tallest in Asia of coursela tallest in the world.

Burj Dubai is in Asia what......:):):)

If tallest in Asia of coursela tallest in the world.

Burj Dubai is in Asia what......:):):)

Dubai is in middle east la. Is UAE in asia? Never knew that.

takde rendering lagi ke?

^^ middle east is part of Asia..

Geographically, it is in Asia...that part can be known as west Asia as well..

^^ So, should we scale down our wish to just 'East asia tallest'? To breakthru, we must aim higher than 650m by now.

If it is quite tall, could it be mixed-use (like the Burj Dubai with residential, commercial components)? I don't think it would be 100% office in my opinion...

Dubai is in middle east la. Is UAE in asia? Never knew that.

Yes, UAE in Asia.

Another news about Malaysia's future tallest building by Asia Property Report
http://www.property-report.com/aprarchives.php?id=927&date=191107

The report is almost quite the same as The Edge Daily

Malaysia to get new tallest building
by Robert Carry

Malaysia looks set to get a new tallest building after Kuwait Finance House Malaysia Bhd (KFHMB) revealed plans to construct a tower that will overshadow every other man-made structure in the Asian country.

KFHMB company director Datuk K Salman Younis told the Malaysian press that the project had been approved and that construction was scheduled to commence next year. He added that when completed the development would be “a high-end real estate project that will stand taller than the Petronas Twin Towers”.

The massive development will be constructed via joint venture between KFHMB and the property wing of a Malaysian banking company. KFHMB is also believed to be seeking to launch further developments in Bandar Nusajaya and is in discussions with a number of potential investors from Australia, China, Indonesia, Singapore and the Middle East. The fast-moving company also announced a joint project with Mubadala Development and Millennium Development International in August this year.

Can't wait to see the design and location.

Another news about Malaysia's future tallest building by Asia Property Report
http://www.property-report.com/aprarchives.php?id=927&date=191107

The report is almost quite the same as The Edge Daily

Malaysia to get new tallest building
by Robert Carry

Malaysia looks set to get a new tallest building after Kuwait Finance House Malaysia Bhd (KFHMB) revealed plans to construct a tower that will overshadow every other man-made structure in the Asian country.



that's a big dream!

moga bukan sandiwara :D

this will not be a dream since its under kfhmb.....if its under malaysian co...yeah....we will dream about it 4ever n ever...hehe

the question now...WHERE :)

^^ I pray that it's in KL!!!!!

I reckon it’s either Nusajaya or Penang… just my lil 2 cents~

Cheers,
adamcwy

hopefully it'll be in KL....!!

i hope the tower will be more than 500m tall

but i will be very happy if the tower stands 2020 feet tall=600m++ as a symbolic to the year 2020.

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Can this be the rumoured tallest building???

Klang Valley will unveil Setia City next year

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4493/setiacitykz3.jpg
The 2 "supertall" at the ambitious Setia City, Shah Alam

so... it will be in Shah ALam ?? :D :D

^^ x pikir langsung :D

but i think... it might be in KL or Nusajaya :D :D

wahhh....looks so weird lah but cepat2la buat...but both didnt look so talllah....hehe

It will be a dream come true for Malaysia.I really hope it will be in KL.Malaysia Boleh

It will be a dream come true for Malaysia.I really hope it will be in KL.Malaysia Boleh:banana:

I dont know why, but I get a strange feeling there will be a fate to petronas... :(

OMG! :)

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Can this be the rumoured tallest building???

Yikes! The Windcatcher one looks too organic to be built that tall!

very interesting news!! can't wait for the details!! but i guess this won't happen so soon...

The latest news is that KFH wants a stronger presence in NCER... could this building be in Penang?

^^ A great idea... I really wanna see penang to become like Abu Dhabi... if Abu dhabi has ETIHAD then Penang needs something "huuuuge " so that M'sia has a very strong 2nd city.

takde design yang lagi cantik ke??????

Can it be the Revival of this... ???

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http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1874/sgbesihub1ow7.jpg

^^unfortunately the design doesn't suit 'Arabian Taste'. it looks more Shanghainese doh...

and seems the architect is from SOM, it does not reflect SOM identity at all...

my 2 cents

http://212.12.183.189/MCC/ProjectImages/%d8%a7%d9%84%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b3%d9%87/perspective2.jpg


mite be dis one....huhu!!!!

bro rizal...

according to website the Diamond Tower is in Jeddah lol http://www.masarat.com.sa/mcce/Projects.aspx

Imagine having this building by the beachside let's say Melaka or Kota Bharu?? hahaha

jedah? ahh...too bad.....those arab ppl really creative....beyond our imagination.....thx pacthy

http://212.12.183.189/MCC/ProjectImages/%d8%a7%d9%84%d9%85%d8%a7%d8%b3%d9%87/perspective2.jpg


mite be dis one....huhu!!!!

what da hell is that? it looks like a screwed up intestine

^^spaceship lo!!!

Bad news guys :ohno::ohno:

http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=304212

Kuwait Finance Says It Has No Plans To Build Malaysia's Tallest Building

KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 24 (Bernama) -- Investment bank, Kuwait Finance House today denied reports that it is involved in the establishment of Malaysia's proposed tallest building.

In a statement here today, the investment bank said it was also not aware of the project.

It was responding to local media reports last month that it would jointly develop a building with a local bank, that would overtake the Petronas Twin Towers which is currently the tallest in the country.

The bank was earlier reported saying that the joint-venture with the property arm of the local bank had been approved and work would begin next year.

-- BERNAMA

Kesian!!!

No! i think KFH just want to cover up the story :yes:

in fact, in THE EDGE (printed edition) last week report was very detail and clear that KFH team up with Glomac to redevelop the Bangunan Angkasa Raya site as the tallest building....it was a 3 pages report!

^^
You could be right Osh, maybe just a smart tactic. At the same time Bangunan Angkasa should be demolished and replaced by something more modern. But I question that DBKL allow something really tall to be constructed right beside the twins. We remember that Four Seasons had to be shortened as well.

Then...juz hope the project still on...

Hope. It may take years. I dont mind if KFH fund Plaza Rakyat, maybe wit latest design and taller.

No! i think KFH just want to cover up the story :yes:

in fact, in THE EDGE (printed edition) last week report was very detail and clear that KFH team up with Glomac to redevelop the Bangunan Angkasa Raya site as the tallest building....it was a 3 pages report!

boleh percaya ke ? :nuts: :banana:

if i got time, tomorrow i'll quote/type some of the report...too long to type them all...

if i got time, tomorrow i'll quote/type some of the report...too long to type them all...

can scan lah?

unfortunately.....no scanner

scan pls :D

bangunan angkasaraya? ahhhh poor them....they shud built it at the golden triangle(bb/sultan ismail/raja chulan) or kl sentral/midvalley area....

http://phuah.blogspot.com/2007/12/kls-next-superstructure.html

KL's next SUPERSTRUCTURE????!!!!!!

According to the The Edge Malaysia, there is talk in the market that a new building that is several metres taller than the Petronas Twin Towers may soon appear on the KL skyline. The Parties involved in the proposed project ae said to include the high-flying Kuwait Finance House and well-known local developer Glomac. The targeted site is where Bangunan Angkasa Raya sits, across the road from the Twin Towers.
Based on the proposed plans, the superstrstructure could be built as stand-alone office tower. :shocked:

dalam kawasan KLCC :banana:

Angkasa Raya Tower

http://www.angkasaraya.com/graphics/g_bldg-main.jpg

Bangunan Angkasa Raya, a 24 storey office tower located at Jalan Ampang in Kuala Lumpur's Golden Triangle. It is Superbly and Strategically located opposite KLCC/Petronas Twin Tower with close proximity to financial, corporate and multi-national corporations, facilities and amenities.

Bangunan Angkasa Raya is owner occupied, it is managed and maintained to the highest standards of quality and excellence required by its resident owner. We provide personalised building management and rental services for all our tenants. As an owner/tenant, Rakyat Holdings Sdn Bhd experiences all aspects of the building on a daily basis. This assures our tenants that all features of the building are reviewed on a daily basis under the scrutiny of its owernership.



Rakyat Holdings Sdn Bhd is commited to providing the highest quality office environment in the Kuala Lumpur Business District.

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watch out for Angkasa Raya and the land next to it - Bok House site!


WOW imagine having 4 supertalls sooo close to one another when see from far....

angkasa raya is going to be demolished?

I thought that TA3 and TA4 would be 60 and 35 stories high : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=481740

it's just too near to PTT. not really excited about that. it would be more exciting if they could build it on the other side of town, perhaps taking over plaza rakyat. i dunno, just some random thoughts.

don't you all think that the angkasa raya site is a little bit small for malaysia's tallest building?

dulu golden triangle area r jln bukit bintang jln sultan ismail n jalan raja chulan....everybody wanna built tall tower thre........but now klcc is taking over da golden triangle title....jln ampang, jln pinang and jln tun razak..

very bad area for a tall structure.. unless its bout the height of 4 seasons then it'll be good but not somethin taller or same height as PTT.. it'll look dodgy..

there is one trick. build the office level just as high as 4 Seasons, but with spire to make it taller than petronas.

the burj dubai also do the same trick, its spire makes it officially tallest. but if you put side by side with other supertalls...they are not that tall...

^^ yalorrrrr....BD spire is around 150m tall!

my idea is..a 300+m solid tower with 150+m spire, definately it can surpass PTT official height of 452m..without scarring the granduer look of PTT

make it 500m!!!! make it 500m!!!!

osh>>> do u still that article?

osh>>> do u still that article?

damn! somebody took the THE EDGE, it's not mine actually..but i'll try to find out who took it. or else i'll buy my own copy..

Soil condition may play a crucial role on how tall the final thing might be....

make it 500m!!!! make it 500m!!!!

osh>>> do u still that article?

i hope more than 500m :D

at least 542m (1m lebih dari Freedom Tower) :)

that's impossible, no doubt. i'm sure DBKL would never allow any buildings look higher than PTT...

im prefer creativity rather than the heights itself...... i mean sumtin like dis will totally be cool in kl.....

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/1606_385%20Synergy.jpg
synergy Residence Tower, Dubai

or like this

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/748/1190924997spireparkxu1.jpg
Chicago Spire

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=434232


cool huh!!!!

^^UGLY! looks like living in an alien planet...

^^ yalorrrr, takde ciri-ciri malaysia langsung!

something like this with Malaysian feature ... will be the BEST!!!

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/building/building_06.jpg

ini pun ok, spire version

http://www.architectafrica.com/images1/bin1/wtc1.jpg

FT

http://www.aiany.org/eOCULUS/2006/images/0711/k_Awards_FreedomTower_0112.jpg

this is so COOOOL

Rotating Tower!!!
http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/rotating-tower-1.jpg

dats not cool but crazy idea.......we dont need a supertall tower.....but uniq classy n creative building......4 me 50 60 or 70storey is enuf but most important thing is da design itself......in da next 10 or 20 years ppl will not even care if the building is 150flr storey but da design will capture our hearts.....we do have sum cool towres in da future like in my top 7 list..... :p...... we dont want sum ugly n 80's type of building like da new ynh tower!!!

well.. personally.. i would like to see some nice tower instead of some supertall building.. when we already hav twins in KL! :lol: but still if it truns out 'k then.. yeh..

I like creative and tall building. PTT is a great example.Klu tinggi jer tpi x kratif bt ape, mcm Taipei 101.
The time is now,4 Malaysia 2 have another superstructure!:banana:

this is so COOOOL

Rotating Tower!!!
http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/rotating-tower-1.jpg

^^:lol::lol::lol:

What a funny tower....

HERE's THE ARTICLE guys... getting excited?


Breaking News: Taller than the Towers
Email us your feedback at fd@bizedge.com [Please feel free to email them after New Year]


Our national pride and icon, The Petronas Twin Towers, may soon be overtaken by a new superstructure, if plans by several parties come to fruition.

City & Country [TheEdge] understands that the new building, apparently to be built several metres taller than the Twin Towers, has been proposed to replace the 29-year-old Bangunan Angkasa Raya, which is located across the road from the latter in Malaysia's premier address of KLCC.

Bangunan Angkasa Raya, perched on the bustling intersection of Jalan Ampang and Jalan Pinang, is a 24-storey office tower block owned by Angkasa Raya Developments Sdn Bhd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Bank Rakyat.

Bank Rakyat is a cooperative bank under the purview of the Ministry of Entrepreneur Development and Cooperatives.

Sources say the parties involved in the proposal include Kuwait Finance House (KFH), Glomac Bhd and government-linked companies whose names are not immediately known.

KFH has, of late, been rapidly expanding its real-estate portfolio in Malaysia, pumping funds into en bloc purchases of high-profile buildings and big ticket items. Glomac, meanwhile, is an established integrated developer with a proven track record of building in the KLCC address. Its exclusive Suria Stoner comprises 138 units of triplex penthouses, duplexes and condominiums. Prices in this residential project range from RM2 million to RM8.8 million.

It is worth noting that KFH and Glomac are no strangers to each other. Recently, Glomac sold its Glomac Tower en bloc to KFH for a record-breaking RM1,120 psf. The 40-storey Grade A office tower is situated in Jalan Pinang and construction is scheduled to start early next year.

Talk in the industry has it that the government recently gave these parties the go-ahead to explore the proposed superstructure, which is seen as bringing pride to the nation. This, however, could not be immediately confirmed.

But lending credence to the rumours is that Mustafa Kemal Abadan, the famous Turkish architect with the prestigious New York-based firm Skidmore, Owings and Merrill (SOM), was in town recently and that he had, accompanied by several local architects, viewed Bangunan Angkasa Raya.

A KFH official confirmed that the proposed superstructure, which will outdo the Twin Towers and KL Tower, is indeed in the works. The same official claims to be a member of the planning team for the project.

KFH is expected to play the role of financier in a joint venture with the other parties involved. Its involvement is probably to provide funds under the Mudharabah Islamic financing concept but the official says it is too early to estimate the project's cost.

"We have to see the design first," he says.

Mudharabah is a common instrument in Islamic financing, where a partnership is formed with one party providing the capital and the other managing the project on a profit-sharing basis.

The KFH official says the project's details may be announced early next year but stresses that the building will not compete with the Twin Towers but complement it.

It is believed that Mustafa Kemal is working on a distinctive and creative design for the new superstructure that will go with the stainless steel-clad Twin Towers designed by American Cesar Pelli, which is a hybrid of Islamic and East Asian aesthetics.

Based on the proposed plans, the superstructure could be built as a stand-alone office tower.

"However, there are scores of issues to be mitigated, including logistics and construction factors. It's clearly not going to be a walk in the park, especially in the heart of the KLCC area," says the KFH official.

When contacted, Glomac Bhd's group managing director Datuk FD Iskandar FD Mansor says: "Well, we had some initial talks with KFH, but I can't confirm anything yet at the moment. We'll wait for it (the talks) to finalise and then perhaps, we might be prepared to make an announcement."

According to Angkasa Raya Developments' CEO Zul Hisham Mohd Yusoff, any details of the land deal to construct the superstructure can only be revealed by Bank Rakyat directors.

Meanwhile, Maybank's name has surfaced in the market talk, in that it could feature as the anchor occupier of the new building, turning it into the bank's new corporate headquarters. MAYBANK NEW HEADQUARTERS???

A spokesperson for Maybank dismisses such talk, saying: "The bank has not commissioned any group for such a project. We are not in discussion with any party and have no plans whatsoever for a new corporate headquarters."

Interestingly, from 1987 to 1995, the 50-storey Maybank headquarters on Jalan Tun Perak was KL's tallest building, at a height of 244m.



Why, when and how much

It is not immediately known how much the proposed superstructure will cost, how much floor space will be offered or when construction will kick off and be completed.

The rationale for the project is hotly debated, with the main question being: Why plan a building that will erase the iconic status of the Twin Towers but not compete for the world's tallest title? Come 2009, the Burj Dubai, at 818m, will be the world's tallest building. [yeah why not compete for WTB title? if not it doesnt serve much purpose as to outdo PTT]

Real estate consultants contacted by City and Country say such a project augurs well for the local property market. However, there is a caveat: The new icon must be superior to the Twin Towers and its design must complement the Twin Towers'.

Henry Butcher Malaysia Sdn Bhd's COO Tang Chee Meng says there are a few tracts in the KLCC area that are suitable for the construction of a stand-alone tower. He adds that from what he knows, there are restrictions on building anything that is taller than the Twin Towers.

"I'm surprised there can be a building taller than the Twin Towers. But it's certainly a good thing and I believe property prices in the KLCC area are going to move up to an unprecedented level. We look forward to an official announcement soon," he says.

Says Sarkunan Subramaniam, executive director of Knight Frank (Ooi & Zaharin Sdn Bhd): "The property market in KLCC couldn't look better with news of another superstructure. I think such a building will be the best piece of news for the property market as a whole, auguring well for KL and the country."

Demand for office units in KL is certainly on an upward trend and the superstructure will fill the need for a prestigious office address in years to come, he adds. "I sincerely hope this good news will stir the market and propel KLCC's property scene to greater heights."

"The Twin Towers are a symbolic icon of the country, so I think the superstructure will not take away its 'magic'," says Hall Chadwick Asia Sdn Bhd's chairman Kumar Tharmalingam, adding that it will definitely be well received by all quarters and fulfil the demand for Grade A offices in KL, which lags behind Singapore, Hong Kong and other countries in this aspect.

"The 'freeze' on premium, Grade A office space has gone on for too long in KL, following the 1997 economic crisis," says Kumar. "The new superstructure will be an exciting project, if it takes off as planned."

Previndran Singhe, the CEO of Zerin Properties, also gives the project the thumbs up. "I wish those involved in the project the best of luck as it will be another landmark that the country can be proud of," he says. "If the companies undertaking the project have deep pockets and the resources to pull it off, I think it will be an unprecedented success."

"The standard of real estate in KL will be raised and the spillover effect will be felt in other developments in the KLCC belt. Tourism may also receive a boost, which will be good for the property sector as well. So, a lot of good things can happen if this superstructure gets off to a good start.

"Strong economic fundamentals and market liberalisation are already driving growth and another icon in the KLCC area can only mean that good times are ahead," enthuses Previndran, who recently unveiled Zerin's website ( www.klcc-living.com ) for KLCC-based properties.



Taller and taller

While the Petronas Twin Towers, at 452m, remain the tallest twin buildings in the world, KL's next superstructure, if it materialises, will probably stand shorter than Taipei 101 and Dubai's Burj tower.

The reasons for this are not immediately known but it is said it could have something to do with soil conditions.

The Kuala Lumpur Tower, a telecommunications tower, stands at 421m. The Twin Towers, completed in 1998 at a cost of RM1.8 billion, held the title of the world's tallest building until 2004, when it was overtaken by the 509.2m Taipei 101, a unique structure designed by C Y Lee.

Recently, Taipei 101 was overtaken by Dubai's Burj, the tallest building on the planet in its uncompleted form. When completed in 2009, Burj Dubai will stand at a stunning 818m.


:)

My speculation is that it will have a spire and is a combination of PTT and Burj Dubai design :)

Aiyoh....why not at least overtake Taipei 101.....????

Yela, it should overtake Taipei 101.

HERE's THE ARTICLE guys... getting excited?


Breaking News: Taller than the Towers
Email us your feedback at fd@bizedge.com [Please feel free to email them after New Year]


Our national pride and icon, The Petronas Twin Towers, may soon be overtaken by a new superstructure, if plans by several parties come to fruition.

City & Country [TheEdge] understands that the new building, apparently to be built several metres taller than the Twin Towers, has been proposed to replace the 29-year-old Bangunan Angkasa Raya, which is located across the road from the latter in Malaysia's premier address of KLCC.

Bangunan Angkasa Raya, perched on the bustling intersection of Jalan Ampang and Jalan Pinang, is a 24-storey office tower block owned by Angkasa Raya Developments Sdn Bhd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Bank Rakyat.

Bank Rakyat is a cooperative bank under the purview of the Ministry of Entrepreneur Development and Cooperatives.

Sources say the parties involved in the proposal include Kuwait Finance House (KFH), Glomac Bhd and government-linked companies whose names are not immediately known.



It is believed that Mustafa Kemal is working on a distinctive and creative design for the new superstructure that will go with the stainless steel-clad Twin Towers designed by American Cesar Pelli, which is a hybrid of Islamic and East Asian aesthetics.

Based on the proposed plans, the superstructure could be built as a stand-alone office tower.

"However, there are scores of issues to be mitigated, including logistics and construction factors. It's clearly not going to be a walk in the park, especially in the heart of the KLCC area," says the KFH official.

When contacted, Glomac Bhd's group managing director Datuk FD Iskandar FD Mansor says: "Well, we had some initial talks with KFH, but I can't confirm anything yet at the moment. We'll wait for it (the talks) to finalise and then perhaps, we might be prepared to make an announcement."

According to Angkasa Raya Developments' CEO Zul Hisham Mohd Yusoff, any details of the land deal to construct the superstructure can only be revealed by Bank Rakyat directors.

Meanwhile, Maybank's name has surfaced in the market talk, in that it could feature as the anchor occupier of the new building, turning it into the bank's new corporate headquarters. MAYBANK NEW HEADQUARTERS???

A spokesperson for Maybank dismisses such talk, saying: "The bank has not commissioned any group for such a project. We are not in discussion with any party and have no plans whatsoever for a new corporate headquarters."

Interestingly, from 1987 to 1995, the 50-storey Maybank headquarters on Jalan Tun Perak was KL's tallest building, at a height of 244m.



Why, when and how much

It is not immediately known how much the proposed superstructure will cost, how much floor space will be offered or when construction will kick off and be completed.

The rationale for the project is hotly debated, with the main question being: Why plan a building that will erase the iconic status of the Twin Towers but not compete for the world's tallest title? Come 2009, the Burj Dubai, at 818m, will be the world's tallest building. [yeah why not compete for WTB title? if not it doesnt serve much purpose as to outdo PTT]

Real estate consultants contacted by City and Country say such a project augurs well for the local property market. However, there is a caveat: The new icon must be superior to the Twin Towers and its design must complement the Twin Towers'.

Henry Butcher Malaysia Sdn Bhd's COO Tang Chee Meng says there are a few tracts in the KLCC area that are suitable for the construction of a stand-alone tower. He adds that from what he knows, there are restrictions on building anything that is taller than the Twin Towers.

"I'm surprised there can be a building taller than the Twin Towers. But it's certainly a good thing and I believe property prices in the KLCC area are going to move up to an unprecedented level. We look forward to an official announcement soon," he says.

Says Sarkunan Subramaniam, executive director of Knight Frank (Ooi & Zaharin Sdn Bhd): "The property market in KLCC couldn't look better with news of another superstructure. I think such a building will be the best piece of news for the property market as a whole, auguring well for KL and the country."

Demand for office units in KL is certainly on an upward trend and the superstructure will fill the need for a prestigious office address in years to come, he adds. "I sincerely hope this good news will stir the market and propel KLCC's property scene to greater heights."

"The Twin Towers are a symbolic icon of the country, so I think the superstructure will not take away its 'magic'," says Hall Chadwick Asia Sdn Bhd's chairman Kumar Tharmalingam, adding that it will definitely be well received by all quarters and fulfil the demand for Grade A offices in KL, which lags behind Singapore, Hong Kong and other countries in this aspect.

"The 'freeze' on premium, Grade A office space has gone on for too long in KL, following the 1997 economic crisis," says Kumar. "The new superstructure will be an exciting project, if it takes off as planned."

Previndran Singhe, the CEO of Zerin Properties, also gives the project the thumbs up. "I wish those involved in the project the best of luck as it will be another landmark that the country can be proud of," he says. "If the companies undertaking the project have deep pockets and the resources to pull it off, I think it will be an unprecedented success."

"The standard of real estate in KL will be raised and the spillover effect will be felt in other developments in the KLCC belt. Tourism may also receive a boost, which will be good for the property sector as well. So, a lot of good things can happen if this superstructure gets off to a good start.

"Strong economic fundamentals and market liberalisation are already driving growth and another icon in the KLCC area can only mean that good times are ahead," enthuses Previndran, who recently unveiled Zerin's website ( www.klcc-living.com ) for KLCC-based properties.



Taller and taller

While the Petronas Twin Towers, at 452m, remain the tallest twin buildings in the world, KL's next superstructure, if it materialises, will probably stand shorter than Taipei 101 and Dubai's Burj tower.

The reasons for this are not immediately known but it is said it could have something to do with soil conditions.

The Kuala Lumpur Tower, a telecommunications tower, stands at 421m. The Twin Towers, completed in 1998 at a cost of RM1.8 billion, held the title of the world's tallest building until 2004, when it was overtaken by the 509.2m Taipei 101, a unique structure designed by C Y Lee.

Recently, Taipei 101 was overtaken by Dubai's Burj, the tallest building on the planet in its uncompleted form. When completed in 2009, Burj Dubai will stand at a stunning 818m.


:)

My speculation is that it will have a spire and is a combination of PTT and Burj Dubai design :)



setakat design 30-50 tingkat, Mustafa Kemal Abadan x kan datang sini! :banana:



World renowned architect sasses out Malaysia for a major project
Saturday November 10, 2007
By TEE LIN SAY
TheStar (http://biz.thestar.com.my/bizweek/story.asp?file=/2007/11/10/bizweek/19340918&sec=bizweek)


OVER the week, some of Malaysia's most prominent corporate movers and shakers were treated to the magnificent view of the Burj in Dubai – a tower building, which at 2,313 ft over reaches any other tower in the world, with a stunning swirl silhouette and shape inspired by the desert flowers that often appear as patterns in Islamic structures.

The three-hour presentation and tour by the project's main developer of the “sky-breaking tower” must have been awe-inspiring. In fact, already, the Burj, as it stands today in its incomplete form (expected year of completion is 2009), is the tallest building in the planet and is said to be going for a whopping RM11,000 per sq feet onwards.

“I was highly impressed,” says one businessman, who was part of a delegation led by the Kuala Lumpur Business Club for a business mission to the United Arab Emirates. Puns aside, it's hard not to be impressed with one of the world's most magnificent structures born from the union of form and function – that which drives and inspires the world of architecture.

Mustafa Kemal Abadan, design partner in world-famous architect firm New York-based Skidmore, Owings and Merrill (SOM) which designed the Burj, bridged the gap between the stunning innovation and Malaysia recently with his visit to Kuala Lumpur.






http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2007/11/10/bizweek/bw_p4Mustafa.jpg

Mustafa: Malaysia is a vibrant city and I am delighted to be part of it






That he was here in KL is fodder for imagination and speculation; it is believed that he is undertaking to design a unique structure in one of the city's hotspots. In an interview with BizWeek however, Mustafa is careful not to divulge any details on the project but lends his views on Malaysia's landscape and structures from his observation following an intensive two day-visit.

Mustafa himself may need no introduction, for his is a name that has long found a star spot in the world's most established and well regarded architect circles, with a career spanning two decades and many continents. His signature projects include the Time Warner Centre in New York, the AIG Tower in Hong Kong, Lotte Super Tower in Seoul, South Korea and Bridging the Rift Centre in Jordan.

Mustafa joined SOM New York in 1983 and became a design partner in 1996. In terms of trade volume, SOM is one of the top three architectural firms in the world and has been involved with a “staggering number of important buildings” and has received over 800 design awards from its 10,000 jobs all over the world.

Its show stopping structures include Chicago's 110-story Sears tower (this building held the accolade as the world's tallest building until Malaysia's Petronas Twin Towers took the honour), China's Pearl River Tower (ongoing) which promises to be the world's greenest skyscraper and the 7 World Trade Centre in New York. Last year, the firm celebrated its 70th anniversary.

“Malaysia is a vibrant city and I am delighted to be part of it,” he says. Mustafa's work requires him to tap the sensitivities and cultural context of a country and location in making architecture to ensure that it possesses its own unique social and physical relevance. As such and understandably so, his short visit to KL was packed with visits to key spots such as museums and the Putrajaya administrative centre among many others.

Mustafa says he tries to avoid having preconceived notions when visiting a country for the first time. His recent trip, incidentally, happens to be his first to Malaysia.

“Malaysia is a mixture of many. It is vibrant. Probably the most interesting part is the active life. This is what differentiates it from Singapore which has a sort of uniformity.”

He is surprised to have discovered Malaysia's topography: “I didn't expect Malaysia to have mountains.”

“In Seoul for instance, there are strong mountains. This is an important aspect of a city, and I was enthused by this place. I was born in Turkey, so water, topography and history are major components of what constitutes a city,” he adds.

Mustafa points out that Malaysia's skyline is not dominated by a single force; in fact, it is “multi-centred”. For instance, there is one centre in KLCC, and another in KL Sentral.

“I would say Malaysia feels more real. There is a greater vibrancy that I can sense in the city. The context of the city is more differentiated. In Singapore, the concentration is going downtown. It is more controlled and planned,” he says.

He adds that his real-life view of the much talked about Kuala Lumpur twin towers was rather surprising as it veered somewhat from his impression of it prior to this visit: “I actually had a preconceived notion that the twin towers would be more free standing than it actually was. I thought it was standalone, and that I would only see it once I got into the park. But there were lots of built areas around it and the place was bustling.”

He adds that the twin towers was a bold and strong statement and an important point in history as it put Malaysia on the map.

“I think it would be good for Malaysia to add more towers. This could bring more positive development over time, gravitating living conditions to these centres,” he says.






http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2007/11/10/bizweek/bw_p4SOMNewYork.jpg

A project by SOM New York – the Time Warner Centre in New York






Scaling heights

Robust economic changes result in more widespread urbanisation as the city expands. In fact, towers are largely deemed as economic necessities that accompany growth where land is also scarce. Rapid development, more often than not, boosts the population on the back of rising migration into the city. This presents itself with a different set of infrastructure requirements, which need to be addressed as quickly and efficiently as possible, says Mustafa.

He adds that there is now a move to build homes where people can live and work in an integrated way. The reliance on cars is gradually becoming less sustainable. Nonetheless, he adds that this does not encourage architectural growth as the demand is for functional houses.

“The quest for better architecture comes when the economy settles down. It is happening in China. At the moment, the type of projects that can elevate architecture are still in the minority,” he says.

Mustafa says that urban issues are hard to solve. Almost all cities in emerging markets are struggling to reorder themselves in terms of traffic, safety and cost and environment.

Cities with stronger governmental structure have an advantage in planning, as it can override the city council's decision for the betterment of the economy.

“There are advantages and disadvantages of a city being controlled. In very highly developed countries, there is much more regulation. This confines the city within certain parameters. New York for example is a very regulated city hence there is a need to think about maximising space,” he says.

Mustafa feels that cities that try to create an identity for itself benefit in the long run as people may generally have similar needs but there are regional, cultural and social differences.

“In the late 80s and 90s, because of the post modernisation push, classical buildings sprung up all over the world, but these buildings had no roots. They had no links to history or culture. It was pure aesthetics! To me, this is useless.”

Mustafa says that there should be a perfect balance between form and function. An important element which needs to be paid due attention in the designing process is the location.

“I am interested in where the building is built. What can be around it, and what cannot. The orientation of the building, where and what it faces. We want to anchor the architecture to the sociology of the place. We want to create a context to where there is uniqueness to the place.”

“That is why two buildings in two countries will be designed in completely different ways. Rules change for each country. The form that makes the building will create the context of that area,” says Mustafa.

Towers as symbols

Post 9/11, it was generally perceived that the fascination over towers, given their security risk, would have fizzled somewhat.

Contrary to expectations however, Mustafa says there are in fact more skyscrapers on the drawing boards.

“9/11 was a blip in how people viewed towers. People need to separate the issue of 9/11, especially when looking at a tower in a dense city. Cities can't just expand horizontally. People who stay a far distance from the city have to drive to work. You need to address this need,” he says.

Mustafa adds that a city is better off when there is greater density. And contrary to popular belief, towers aren't just for abstract purposes.

It feeds the need for greater density. As the city expands, the only way for these buildings is to go up. “The taller the building, the higher the cost. Buildings that go beyond 20-30 storey have specific reasons. It is built because of symbolic reasons. For instance, the KLCC allows Malaysia to stand out and make its own statement,” says Mustafa.

In the US, the Freedom Tower, which is the replacement of the World Trade Centre following the terrorist attacks on Sept 11, 2001, is more of a symbol of inspiration and an enduring beacon of the New York City skyline rather than anything else.

The Freedom Tower will soar 1,776 ft into the sky and is designed with the classic touch of typical New York skyscrapers while also taking reference from the torch of the Statue of Liberty. The tower is designed by architect David Childs of SOM.

“Super tall towers are on the rise. I am surprised by how many tall buildings are being built. There's going to be a limit to it. One can even built up to 1,000m, which is going to be twice the height of KLCC, but this comes at a great cost,” he says.

For instance, the Burj Dubai, which is going to be the tallest tower in the world is a symbol of Dubai's central role in the global market. It is an icon of the new Middle East – successful, dynamic and prosperous.

“In Dubai, there is little land available. But wealth in the population needs to find an outlet.

“In the end, it always comes down to economics,” he says.

Another joke... about how our new supertall may look like...



http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1592/tripletowervo1.jpg
Pic courtesy of my friend ...hahahaha


HAPPY NEW YEAR and may 2008 be another superb Year of Superstructure in Msia!

:)

^^ 3 cocks..? that's GAY :D

If that tower outdo the Burj Dubai, it will significantly overshadow the PTT too much...

the future tallest twin tower

BEIJING | Fanhai International Twin Towers | 505m | 1656ft

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/JiangbeiTwins.jpg

cool huh!!!

wah, we can't compete with China anymore. it will always be a losing game for us

the future tallest twin tower

BEIJING | Fanhai International Twin Towers | 505m | 1656ft

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r5/z0rgg/JiangbeiTwins.jpg

cool huh!!!

don't look like twins to me ;)

theirs look like siamese twins to me. ;p

Hello guys! I'm a new here... Harap beri tunjuk ajar :hi:
well, actually i visited this forum quitee frequently, but only now hav the feel to join in :)
BTW, im really exciting abt dis project. Only IMO, if its really gonna be taller than the towers, they shud build it quiet far from klcc, in bangsar area maybe, accompanying tm tower.

the future tallest twin tower

BEIJING | Fanhai International Twin Towers | 505m | 1656ft

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cool huh!!!

looks crap..

^^ im sure ull say wow superb cool n bla la la if its in malaysia....lol!!

Another joke... about how our new supertall may look like...



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Pic courtesy of my friend ...hahahaha


HAPPY NEW YEAR and may 2008 be another superb Year of Superstructure in Msia!

:)

I red about some idiot who thought there were supposed to be 5 petronas towers symbolizing the 5 pillars of Islam :nuts:

I red about some idiot who thought there were supposed to be 5 petronas towers symbolizing the 5 pillars of Islam :nuts:

that will be sooo coool... imagine 5 PTT standing in a circle, between them connected by skybridges... wow!

ugly...~~

the form of the individual towers doesn't not conform the multiplication of more than 2. :)
even triple towers (like the one shown) r not elegant at all.

looks crap..

hey, it looks nice lah!:banana:

aiseh...when will this chinese and arabs can give a break ah..?others also want an 'award' ...:bleep:

an Academy Award would be so damn lame if only one or two movies won all the categories, rite?

^^ besides arab n china......the russian n korean also doing so well.....check out their threads and skyscrapercity highrise and supertall column....ull be suprised with their crazy projects

mustafa kamal abadan CV

http://www.som.com/content.cfm/www_mustafa_k_abadan

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INDIA TOWER (60storey -301m)
wat do u guys think? cool, weird or ugly?

4 me its between cool n weird but also ugly....looks like 4 boxes!!!

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INDIA TOWER (60storey -301m)
wat do u guys think? cool, weird or ugly?

4 me its between cool n weird but also ugly....looks like 4 boxes!!!

where will it be?? India or KL?? just for Indians???

^^ INDIA

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/1829_India%20Tower%201.jpg

INDIA TOWER (60storey -301m)
wat do u guys think? cool, weird or ugly?

4 me its between cool n weird but also ugly....looks like 4 boxes!!!

its weird and ugly!:weird:

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/887AedasWinKarachiPakistanCompetition_pic1.jpg

KPT TOWER - PAKISTAN, cant imagine this in pakistan.....but this will be cool in kl

^^ HiP! :cool:

Just a question, how would you predict how their design will be like?
Currently, I'm clueless of their designs (Maybe their buildings from other cities?)

Sunrise to redevelop Wisma Angkasa Raya :banana:
By ANGIE NG


PETALING JAYA: Sunrise Bhd is believed to be acquiring Wisma Angkasa Raya, located opposite the Petronas Twin Towers in Kuala Lumpur City Centre (KLCC), for redevelopment into an upmarket commercial project.

In a filing with Bursa Malaysia on Monday, the property developer said it had entered into an agreement with Reliance Pillar Sdn Bhd and Lembaran Segimaju Sdn Bhd to acquire Tanah Tuah Development Sdn Bhd for RM57.4mil.

Sunrise will pay RM27mil in cash and make a RM30.4mil shareholders' advance to Tanah Tuah. It has paid a deposit of RM5mil.

According to the announcement, Tanah Tuah has registrable interest in a piece of freehold land within the KLCC.

“Tanah Tuah represents a good investment as the property that is being acquired by Tanah Tuah has potential to be redeveloped into an upmarket commercial development, which will further strengthen the group's presence in a prime location,” Sunrise said in the statement.

Tanah Tuah had in January agreed to buy the 1.6-acre land from the original owner for RM152mil but the agreement has yet to be concluded.

Sunrise said it had taken the necessary legal measures to safeguard its interest in the event the company's agreement with the vendors was completed before the completion of the accord between Tanah Tuah and the original owner.

Wisma Angkasa Raya, which is around 29 years old, is Kuala Lumpur’s first high-rise office building. The unencumbered property is a 24-storey commercial building comprising a 20-storey office tower and a four-storey podium with two basement carparks.

It has a total net lettable area of 167,728 sq ft and an occupancy rate of 96.4%.

Aseambankers research analyst Ong Chee Ting said that assuming Tanah Tuah had taken a 100% debt funding for the purchase, Sunrise’s RM27mil cash payment to the vendors would have raised its acquisition cost to RM179mil, or RM2,588 per sq ft.

“Even at RM2,588 per sq ft, it is considered a fair price. Assuming that KL City Hall grants Sunrise a 10 times plot ratio for redevelopment, similar to the upcoming Menara YNH in Jalan Sultan Ismail, the price per plot ratio works out to RM259 per sq ft.

“Adding RM500 per sq ft per plot ratio for the construction of an upmarket development and factoring in an efficiency ratio of 80%, the total construction cost comes to about RM1,000 per sq ft per net saleable area,” Ong said.

Given that KL City Hall has raised the plot ratio for commercial development to nine to 10 times now compared with Wisma Angkasa Raya's three times, Ong said the redevelopment could yield a gross development value of at least RM900mil.

“If Sunrise’s new property can be sold above RM1,300 per sq ft, there's still a 30% margin to be made. This translates to a development profit of RM208mil,” he said.

Ong said the risk for the redevelopment plan was a possible oversupply of new office space in Kuala Lumpur by 2010, although this risk is “mitigated by the property’s prime location''.

Sunrise to set KLCC land price record

By Presenna Nambiar Published: 2008/05/28

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The developer plans to pay RM179 million, or RM2,588 per sq ft, for the Kuala Lumpur City Centre land, higher than what YTL Corp paid for 0.4ha in Jalan Stonor

SUNRISE Bhd has proposed to buy a piece of prime land in the heart of Kuala Lumpur, a deal that will set a new record for land prices in the Kuala Lumpur City Centre (KLCC) area.

The freehold 69,171 sq ft land houses the 29-year old Wisma Angkasa Raya, and is a stone's throw from the Petronas Twin Towers.

Sunrise plans to buy the land for about RM179 million, or RM2,588 per sq ft (psf), higher than what YTL Corp Bhd paid for 0.4ha in Jalan Stonor earlier this year.

"The price is undoubtedly a new record for Kuala Lumpur," Aseambankers analyst Ong Chee Ting wrote in a report yesterday, adding that it is a fair price.

The deal reflects the bullishness of Malaysian developers as the capital grapples with a shortage of office space.

The land "has potential to be redeveloped into an upmarket commercial development", Sunrise said in a statement to Bursa Malaysia on Monday.

The main risk to the project is that Kuala Lumpur may have too much office space by 2010.

Nevertheless, that risk is offset by the fact that the site is a good location, Ong noted in his report.

Under the deal, Sunrise is buying all of Tanah Tuah Development Sdn Bhd for RM27 million cash from Reliance Pillar Sdn Bhd and Lembaran Segimaju Sdn Bhd.

Tanah Tuah has an interest in the land as it signed a deal on January 14 this year to buy the property for RM152 million.

However, that deal is not completed yet. Sunrise did not identify the original landowner.

In addition, Sunrise will settle a RM30.4 million loan given to Tanah Tuah by Reliance Pillar and Lembaran Segimaju.

Ong calculates that if Sunrise's new property can be sold at RM1,300 psf, there is still a hefty 30 per cent margin to be made.

"This translates into potential gross development value and development profit of RM900 million and RM208 million respectively," he said.

Reliance Pillar and Lembaran Segimaju bought into Tanah Tuah this month for about RM40 million.

Well according to the KL Draft Plan the tallest building will not be in KL city centre itself but rather the outskirt of it if this building is gonna build.

KL reaches for the skies, approval granted for several new superstructures
Stories by YIP YOKE TENG


The skyline of Kuala Lumpur is to set change dramatically and significantly in the near future.

Several superstructures of over 50-storeys high will soon join the Petronas Twin Towers and KL Tower to dwarf other high-rise buildings in the city centre.

Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) town planning director Mahadi Che Ngah has confirmed that the DBKL had approved several superstructures comprising office blocks, hotels and serviced apartments.

According to Mahadi, a skyscraper soaring to about 60 storeys has been approved as an extension to the Petronas Twin Towers. It will be located next to the Mandarin Oriental Hotel.

The pricey plot near Suria KLCC will also be the site for the Four Seasons Centre Kuala Lumpur, with its tallest building standing at 70 storeys.

It is touted to be a mixed development comprising a Four Seasons hotel, serviced apartments, luxury condominiums and retail outlets.

KL Sentral is also expected to have a structure towering at about 60 storeys.

Another skyscraper to loom over Stadium Merdeka at about 40-storeys tall has also been approved in principle. It is learnt that this will be part of a privatisation project by the government.

Mahadi said two other projects with 30-storey structures were waiting for their development orders.

On talks that a 100-storey skyscraper would be erected near the Matrade centre, bordering Jalan Kuching and Jalan Duta, Mahadi said it was merely an enquiry.

He said no plan or application had been submitted on the so-called project and it was too early to say that Kuala Lumpur would have another building taller than the Twin Towers.

“High-rise projects in Kuala Lumpur have to abide by height guidelines.

“They cannot just follow the fancy of the landowners. These developers have been well informed of the policies in the Kuala Lumpur Structure Plan 2020, draft Kuala Lumpur City Plan 2020 and other planning regulations,” he said.

“The height of the buildings is related to land value, the more expensive the land, the higher the buildings but we still need to look into other aspects like road systems and public transport,” Mahadi said.

According to Mahadi, commercial zones are categorised as city centre, district centre and neighbourhood centre, to control development intensity.

The city centre commercial zone has the highest range of permissible plot ratio of up to 1:10. Plot ratio refers to the ratio of land area and floor area.

Superstructures can only be allowed in the city centre commercial zone, which is largely around the KLCC area, as well as other areas designated for the purpose such as KL Sentral and Mid Valley.

“This means that if a developer wants to erect a very tall building in an area outside the city centre commercial zone, it has to make sure there is a large span of green in the surroundings,” Mahadi said.

He advised the public to study the draft KL City Plan 2020 carefully to check on the development intensity proposed for the different areas.

“Some plans have been committed decades ago and the DBKL will have to follow up on these commitments.

“If land owners and residents think that these plans are no longer feasible, or they will suffer losses if the plans proceed, now is the time for them to register their objections,” he said.

The Draft KL City Plan objective is to turn Kuala Lumpur into a world-class city by 2020.

The plan states that “to achieve the vision for a world-class city by 2020, Kuala Lumpur needs an optimum population that supports the city’s role as a leading centre of the new economy”.

Kuala Lumpur is positioned to have a population of 2.2 million, up from the 1.5 million now by 2020, with a population density of 13,805 people per sq km in the city centre, similar to the population density of the busiest areas in Tokyo.

According to town planners interviewed by StarMetro, this demography is inconsistent with the National Physical Plan that advocates sustainable living in the city.

In fact, the physical plan’s objective is to slightly decrease the gross urban density of 29 people per hectare (2,900 people per sq km) to 25 per hectare.

nutin 2 do with us but i think this will be one of the craziest project ever in dubai

Worlds first ‘building in motion’ ready in 2 years.

Rotating Tower design will begin construction in next few weeks
Press were today treated to an introduction to the world’s first ‘building in motion’. Rotating Tower, designed by Italian architect David Fisher, is expected to move from design to reality in less than two years.

The design, in collaboration with British firm Dynamic Architecture Group, will be premiered in two locations: Moscow and Dubai which were chosen for very different reasons. Dubai was Fisher’s first choice for the tower. He said: “Dubai is a city of the future and I think that the building of the future should be in the city of the future.” He took inspiration from UAE Vice President and Dubai ruler, Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, who told him: “Don’t wait for the future, face the future.” Moscow got involved by approaching Fisher who accepted the Russians proposal knowing that they would be 'fast at putting things together'.

Dubai’s building will reach 80 floors: The top 10 floors will be used for luxury ‘Villa’ style apartments, below which a further 35 floors of accommodation, then the 15 floors below will comprise an extravagant hotel and the lowest 20 floors used as retail space.

The segmented tower design will allow each floor to turn independently using voice recognition technology and giving those inside an ever-changing view over the space of 1 to 3 hours. In the Dubai building the voice recognition will be able to interpret such instructions as ‘left’ or ‘right’ in English, Arabic or Italian but any language could be programmed in for further buildings.

It was suggested by one journalist that there may be difficulties when one floor is occupied by more than one tenant. Fisher responded that the architects would be able to adapt a building in whichever way necessary to suit their needs and added: “It opens a way of thinking... people start to think in a different direction.”

Rotating Tower is the Italian architect’s first skyscraper design but he is confident that he will be able to pull off the concept, first listing his experience in the architecture world and then by stating: “I did not design skyscrapers but I feel completely ready to do so.”

The Rotating Tower design uses photovoltaic cells and wind turbine technology to collect enough energy to power itself and Fisher says they ‘will have some so we can sell to the neighbours’. The cells which will be placed on the top surface of each floor will be 15% open to the sun’s rays on all 80 floors for the full day helping to power the building.

It is hoped that the tower’s design could be adaptable worldwide with the same power generation capabilities. Fisher said: “Most cities in the world have enough wind to power these turbines – we have used German technology and are testing in Italy and it seems we have enough power” (for the current buildings).

The towers will also be the first skyscrapers to be entirely constructed from prefabricated parts put together in a factory in Southern Italy by a team of 600 in the facility and 80 on-site. Moscow and Dubai’s towers will begin construction in the next few weeks in Italy where the bathrooms, the most complicated part of the design according to Fisher, will be created and it is hoped they will be able to break ground in the next couple of months. While there has been interest from several countries throughout the world Fisher hopes that New York will be the next to pick up on the concept.


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thats weird

cool!!!!