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cntower January 28th, 2005, 03:12 PM George Ka Pakistan
Recently Geo TV has started a new program called GEORGE ka Pakistan. George is English and a news reporter. Geo has given him the challenge to live in Pakistan for three months and do what ever he wants to do, meet with anyone and try to be a Pakistan and after three months Geo and the people of Pakistan will decide whether he is given the nationality or not. Today, I saw its first program in which George talked about himself and about the peoples of Pakistan.
Also he attended a party on the behalf of his friend. He went out to buy Shalwar Kamez and Shappel. The best part was that he could not find the size 13 chappel in all of Cliffton.
Overall it’s a superb program. It will show us how we treat with the foreigners and foreigner can live in our society. Still there are whole three months and he’s goings to have lots of fun and hardships I achieving his goal. If you guys have seen it, do say something about it.
HasanB January 28th, 2005, 04:57 PM no i have not seen this show .. .but heck i really want to now !! Dayam that sounds good !!
FK January 29th, 2005, 02:35 PM Well thank god someone explained what the "George" thing is all about! At first I thought it was a joke!
Anyways, awesome news .. I cant wait to see "George" on the streets of Karachi!
cntower January 29th, 2005, 11:28 PM This is something to watch...I always laugh at how OUR people react to them. It's very funny infact...
UnitedPakistan January 30th, 2005, 01:08 AM can someone record it or summarize what happens each day sounds retarded but what the hell
cntower January 30th, 2005, 03:54 PM "George Ka Pakistan " on Geo TV
Tuesday: 7:05 PM (Pakistan Time)
Wednesday: 2:05 PM (Pakistan Time)(Repeat Telecast)
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UnitedPakistan January 31st, 2005, 04:59 AM Is he planning to live in Pakistan?
or is this another fake gay show?
cntower January 31st, 2005, 05:36 AM No it's to see how long he can survive by himself without the aid of a translator...should be fun!
cntower February 2nd, 2005, 12:33 PM ABOUT THE SHOW
George Ka Pakistan is the brash, funny, hip, new show from GEO. Part reality show, part social experiment, and part documentary, Geo follows George, a British man, as he tries to settle down in Pakistan – and become a Pakistani! And to top it all off, he only has three months to become one.
George will be exploring his adopted country and its people, trying to understand the complexities of Pakistani society and to discover what it means to be a Pakistani.
And George has to do this all on his own. GEO will give him a strict budget and very little assistance. George has to try and become a Pakistani by himself. He may ask GEO for help, and GEO may provide some aid, but it will ultimately count against him. The more he can survive on his own, the better he is doing at becoming a Pakistani.
GKP also aims to explore Pakistan and its people from a westerner’s perspective as George tries to make a life for himself in Pakistan. The show will be an exploration of Pakistan’s society, culture, and religion from an outsider’s point of view. Hopefully, this will be especially important in highlighting some basic and fundamental issues that too often escape us everyday Pakistanis.
So tune in every week to see how George copes. Will he become a Pakistani? Will he settle down and live in Pakistani? Will Pakistanis accept him as one of them? Will he ever find a bus stop?
George Ka Pakistan: Every Tuesday 7:05 pm
GEORGE’S BIOGRAPHY
George Fulton was born on 10th November 1977 at 8:30pm – and immediately upset his two elder sisters “if he had been born during the day they would have been allowed to miss school”. His sisters have spent the past 27 years exacting revenge on George for his tardiness.
Despite a world economic recession, the popularity of Abba, and his sisters’ wrath, George managed to survive the tail end of the seventies and early eighties, growing up in a tiny village on the Wirral peninsular. The Wirral “http://www.thisiswirral.co.uk/” is the part of the North West of England that sticks out, dividing North Wales from Liverpool.
At the age of eight, George’s parents decided to send him away to boarding school. The entire Fulton family let out a collected sigh of relief when this was announced. George packed his trunk and went off to spend the next five years at Bilton Grange Preparatory School. http://www.biltongrange.co.uk/
After Bilton Grange, George was sent even further away from his family for his secondary education - Uppingham School, Rutland http://www.uppingham.co.uk/. George thrived at Uppingham and it was here that his passion for travel, rugby and theatre awakened.
During his time at Uppingham, he took part in several school trips. He went to Uganda, where he built wells; Bolivia where he worked for CARE International and, er, to Scotland, where he acquired frost bite in his feet. A year after the collapses of the Berlin Wall, his father also managed to pack him of to Eastern Europe in the summer of 1990 to experience this part of the world before a McDonalds appeared on every street. Sadly, he was too late, and George enjoyed a Big Mac, large fries, and coke in Budapest. By the age of 16, George was traveling alone in East Africa. He had well and truly caught the travel bug!
George’s other passions at school were theatre and rugby. Being very big, George took to rugby like a duck to water –well, except less gracefully of course – ending up playing for the school 1st XV team. Whilst scrumagging and ripping people’s ears off gave George a certain physical satisfaction, it was walking the boards in the theatre that was George’s first love at school. George acted, produced and directed several plays at Uppingham, including Noises Off, Royal Hunt of the Sun and Tom Kempinski’s Duet for One. George took Duet for One up to the Edinburgh Festival where it obtained five star reviews in both The Guardian and Scotsman newspapers, and was nominated for a Fringe First award.
Having finished his A-levels, and disinclined as ever to go straight into more studying, George decided in 1997 to travel throughout Asia for a year. It was during this period that he was first mesmerized by Pakistan, traveling to Karachi, Islamabad and Lahore. Leaving Lahore, on a plane bound for Delhi, George vowed to return one day to the ‘land of the pure.’
The next few years were spent toiling over books and bars at Bristol University were George read History…and drank Guinness. http://www.bris.ac.uk/. Bristol was even further away from home. George graduated with a degree in History “BA Honours”.
With his whole life and career ahead of him, George was ready to grab the world with both hands and give it a big kiss. However, there was a slight problem; he didn’t have a clue as to what he wanted to do with his life. Accountancy? Too boring. The Law? Didn’t look good in wigs. Banking? Unable to handle his own finances let alone others. BCCI perhaps? Enough!
Fortunately, George was asked to become the Campaign Manager for a candidate who was standing as an MP “Member of Parliament” in the 2001 British General Election. For a year, George spent his time devising election strategies, handling the media, and canvassing on behalf of his candidate. There was only one slight problem – his candidate was a Conservative. The Labour Party won by a “second” landslide. With his candidate losing by just 668 votes – the smallest margin in the country, George just couldn’t face another four year’s of Tony Blair’s smug grin. He decided to leave the U.K.
He went to Dubai. It was here that he found his calling – journalism. He had turned from gamekeeper to poacher. The next couple of years saw George producing current affairs programming in Dubai, Pakistan and London. He produced the first series of Question Time Pakistan and HARDtalk Pakistan both for BBC World. In addition, he worked for a year in London with the BBC on the Politics Show.
George Ka Pakistan is his first appearance in front of the camera. It may also be his last. His sisters think he has a face for radio.
George is, as far as he can remember, unmarried.
Behind the camera in GKP: WHO’s WHO By George Fulton
Name:Aliya Salahuddin
Role: Producer
Quite simply, without Aliya there would be no George Ka Pakistan. She is the driving force behind the programme, constantly having to juggle so many balls to ensure a smooth transition to screen. I’m not quite sure how she does it, well, actually I am – she cajoles, fights, and encourages everyone to do their best work; and when Aliya cajoles, fights and encourages, everyone listens. Her vision and hard work created George Ka Pakistan.
Name:Ismail Jalani
Role: Director
What can I say about Ismail? Repeatedly he pushes everyone to do his or her best work. Ever the perfectionist, he never settles for second best. The result of which is the visual feast you see on screen. The look and feel of George Ka Pakistan is all down to Ismail’s vision. We are very lucky to have such a great director on board.
Name:Tasawar-ul-Karim Baig
Role: Associate Producer
Tasawar is the hardest working member of the team. Despite being the first to rise and the last to bed, Tasawar always brings lots of energy and a smile to the job. The unsung hero of the team, he makes everyone’s life a lot easier. During the shoots, he often acts as the assistant director, runner, wardrobe assistant, in addition to fulfilling his duties as associate producer. He is one of a kind, and considering his sense of humour, we are very fortunate that he is.
Name:Arfeen Mehdi
Role: Associate Producer
Arfeen is the quietest member of the team, and the scariest. He just gets on with the job in hand. On shoots, he is a very useful person to have around, except when he antagonises passers by with his menacing looks and verbal abuse.
Name:Akhter
Role: Director of Photography
Akhter is a fantastic DOP. He cranes his body into all manner of positions to get the necessary angle for the shot, often at the risk of his own safety. As a rule cameramen tend to be grumpy, and whilst Akhter has a healthy disrespect towards any ideas Ismail suggests, he still manages to always be smiling. A true gentleman.
Names: Javaid and Rahim
Role: Sound operator/Technician
Javaid and Rahim have the two most unpleasant jobs to perform – they have to carry around all the camera equipment, and one of them will always have to stick his hand into my trousers when changing my mike. Despite this hardship, they are very professional and polite and hardworking. The best thing about Javaid and Rahim is that they never complain and never get tired or hungry on shoots.
cntower February 10th, 2005, 01:07 PM More Reality Reaches Pakistan
The appetite for reality TV in Pakistan is growing with networks like Geo TV and PTV both joining the party in recent weeks, the latter with a format acquired from UK indie Zeal Television.
Zeal's Dubai office is in production on the advertiser-sponsored talent show Sunsilk 21st Century Woman (13x60'), a primetime series being coproduced with Karachi-based Nucleus Entertainment for pubcaster PTV.
The SMS-based elimination show, which airs from the 28th of this month, follows 12 women undertaking various physical and lifestyle challenges in order to test whether they can live up to the title of 21st Century Woman. A car and $25k are up for grabs.
Zeal's recently-acquired creative division, The Chatterbox Partnership, devised the format, which Zeal is now looking to roll out into at least three Asian and Lat-Am territories this year.
The deal comes hot on the heels for cable channel Geo TV's series George ka Pakistan, said to be the Asian territory's first ever reality format. The show follows the progress of a British male ex-pat who tries to assimilate into the local culture in Pakistan within three months and on a tight budget.
http://www.c21media.net/resources/detail.asp?area=74&article=23472
cntower February 11th, 2005, 01:06 PM If a newtork were to make something like a Survivor be a hit? I think so...looks like people in Pakistan are hooked on reality TV!
cntower February 11th, 2005, 05:34 PM Geo TV launching in UK
Pakistan's hugely popular news and entertainment service Geo TV could finally be launching next month.
According to insiders at the channel, officials at Geo TV and Sky have been meeting regularly for the imminent launch of the channel on Sky Digital.
The latest we have been told is that Geo TV could be launching as soon as Monday 28th March 2005. However, this tentative date is still be finalised by Geo TV and Sky and once confirmed, we shall notify you.
Rumours of the channel launching on Sky started last year when visual and audio tests of the channel were seen off the Sky EPG for several days. However, since then the channel has been awaited eagerly by followers of Urdu news and information.
http://www.media247.co.uk/bizasia/newsarchive/2005/02/could_geo_tv_fi.php
pakboy February 12th, 2005, 02:19 AM well when ever the date comes near they delay it, it was suppose to lauch in september 2004. delays every month.
FK February 12th, 2005, 05:15 PM Can anybody post updates about this programme?
Im sorry but I work 6-3 so I always miss it ... :s
cntower February 13th, 2005, 03:39 PM Zeal Launches Reality Series in Pakistan
LONDON, February 11: Pakistani terrestrial PTV is set to begin airing 21st Century Woman, a creation of Zeal's The Chatterbox Partnership that was produced for Unilever’s SUNSILK hair-care brand.
The series, produced by the Karachi-based Nucleus Entertainment, is due to commence airing in a primetime slot on PTV this month. According to Zeal Television, it follows a group of 12 girls on an adventure to become modern women.
The format was created by The Chatterbox Partnership, based on a competitive pitch tendered by Broadmind–Mindshare's advertiser-funded programming unit–and Unilever. "21st Century Woman represents a new way of delivering media to global clients," said Dominique Ullmann, the content director for the Asia Pacific at Broadmind. "By creating a show which portrays the brand attributes in an integrated and sophisticated fashion we can deliver both an improved media proposition and further enhance the brand perception and message."
Zeal Television's CEO, Peter Christiansen, added, "Advertiser-funded programming has for a while been hailed as the bright future of television funding. Only recently have we seen such major brands as Unilever step up to the plate to make commitments in this fashion. In emerging markets, ‘proprietary content marketing’ is increasingly becoming a buzz word and an effective mechanism for independent producers to secure funding and commissions."
Zeal is now in format discussions to take the format to other markets in the region.
http://www.worldscreen.com/newscurrent.php?filename=zeal211.htm
cntower February 13th, 2005, 07:15 PM It's not showing on GEO USA yet; once the show is finsihed in Pakistan they will broadcast it in UK and USA.
zees February 15th, 2005, 07:53 AM Pakistan needs more entertainment and reality shows, not to mention greater cross-border alliances, leading private network Geo TV tells Ritesh Gupta
Buoyed by a growing television advertising pie and the leadership status of its first satellite channel, Pakistan’s Jang newspaper group is set to launch two more channels targeting the country’s estimated 25 million pay-television households. The new channels – Geo Music and Geo Entertainment – join the two-year-old Geo TV soon. Although no final date has been announced, both new channels will have about 20% English-language programming, with the remainder of the schedule in Urdu. Geo TV airs predominantly Urdu programming, with a few news bulletins in English.
The Jang group’s plans are designed to capitalise on its first-mover advantage and to keep its leadership position among Pakistan’s growing number of mostly advertising-supported multichannel programmers.
Pakistan’s television advertising revenues, which started growing only with media liberalisation in 2002, are projected to increase by 8%-10% this year to touch the US$62 million-US$66 million mark. Media analysts say family entertainment and drama take about 60% of the advertising pie. News and current affairs and sports account for 25%.
Geo TV launched in August 2002 as a 24-hour Urdu news channel with “live, fast, factual news coverage” in a market that was previously monopolised by state-owned and run media. Infotainment, kids programming and entertainment were added later, but news remains the group’s speciality, says Muhammad Ali, Geo TV’s product development head. “Geo TV launched Pakistan’s first truly interactive programmes based on issues that are dearest to the nation. It did away with taboos, and stretched boundaries,” Ali adds.
Industry estimates put Geo TV’s advertising share at US$13 million-US$14 million – the highest of all local satellite channels. Insiders say this is the reward for spending on quality content and people. Geo is known to have paid 100% more than prevailing market rates in
Pakistan for top-quality content.
The stakes now are higher than they have been since Pakistan’s TV industry was liberalised. Rival Indus TV Network is launching Channel G. Indus chief executive, Ghazzanfar Ali, says Channel G will feature “music with regional values and international outlook”. The broadcaster currently airs infotainment channel I-Plus, drama channel Indus Vision and Indus Music. “Seven to nine channels are to be launched within next two years. Five to six of these will start by the end of 2004,” says Ghazzanfar.
Jaan Hay to
Johaan, Geo TV
In addition, Momal Production is gearing up to launch drama channel Eye TV, and newspaper company, the Century Publications Group, is planning to introduce a news channel called Express TV.
Regional channels such as Star Plus Pakistan, Sony Entertainment Television Asia also claim their share of Pakistan’s multichannel audiences.
“We consider ourselves to be competing mainly with international competitors, with the likes Star Plus as an aspirational set, whereas local channels that could be comparable include ARY and Indus,” says Geo TV’s Ali.
Geo TV’s Ali says the industry needs more entertainment and reality-based shows with improved production standards, an increased talent pool and cross-border alliances. Currently, Geo TV has a production team of 625 members, who handle news content and the majority of other shows. Some entertainment content is commissioned from independent producers such as A. Bajwa and Humanyun Saeed. As Geo uplinks out of Dubai, it is able to source production from Indian studios; at the same time, the location means the company has to seek special permission to air live shows out of Pakistan.
Geo TV has launched its own slate of serials. These include daily serial Jo Baat Ghar Mein Hai and one from Humanyun Saeed Productions. Ali says The production budgets vary from US$6,000-US$10,000 per half-hour episode.
Since the advent of satellite channels, primetime has stretched from 90 minutes to almost four and a half hours. “We air entertainment shows from 8pm to 9pm and then switch over to news and current affairs,” says Ali.
The free-to-air satellite channels in Pakistan such as Geo TV, Indus and ARY Digital, depend solely upon advertising revenues. Ali says revenue expansion depends upon “increased presence, enhanced product line-up, segment development, content synergy, customised concepts, along with improved new look on-screen.”
Ali feels the launch of private channels has opened options for advertisers in terms of better use of their funds, segmentation and genres. “For advertisers, private channels help in offering rather precise strategies for reaching out to audiences in cities like Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad. While state-run PTV charges US$2,630 per 60-seconds, Geo TV charges US$1,000,” says Ali.
Among Geo TV’s top advertisers are financial services companies, the photography industry, and automobiles, as well as corporate image enhancement campaigns. The broadcaster feels a new set of advertisers, such as local supermarkets and clients from the telecommunication industry, have aggressively taken to advertising on private channels.
Ali isn’t counting on Pakistan-based distribution revenue so far. Instead, he says, the next potential growth opportunity is international distribution. At the moment, Geo has distribution in the UK ,US,UAE,KSA. “We are planning to expand to other countries as well,” Ali says. Among his target markets is neighbouring India, China, Malaysia although Ali offers no timetable beyond “ultimately”.
cntower February 15th, 2005, 03:57 PM Good news; GEO has become very popular now. GEO Music is actually AAG TV; what will they call GEO Entertainment?
cntower February 15th, 2005, 03:58 PM http://www.aajtv.com/
FK February 15th, 2005, 09:18 PM AAJ and AAG?
Jesus!
pakboy February 15th, 2005, 10:49 PM im not sure if aaj tv is geos,
are these also gona come to uk.
UnitedPakistan February 15th, 2005, 11:27 PM geo bastards come to the US now lol
zees February 17th, 2005, 04:23 AM www.aag.tv
UnitedPakistan February 18th, 2005, 03:07 AM well it says that he wants to live in Pakistan!
so i hope he wins
FK February 18th, 2005, 10:03 PM I actually caught an episode a few days back where he was in Lahore asking people about living in Pakistan and the stupidest part was that the "crowd" chanted "Pakistan zindabad" and then when he said if anyone would like to go to England with him they all said "Yes!"
And upon asking them they started with all the usual stuff about the problems they face and shit ..
Jesus man your on TV have some respect for your country!
gurujay March 7th, 2005, 09:53 PM TV and online rights for India-Pakistan series announced
Cricinfo staff
March 7, 2005
Doordarshan have the rights to broadcast Pakistan's tour of India to Indian audiences, while Ten Sports will show the series in Pakistan. Coverage in the UK and Europe will be provided by Sony Entertainment Television Asia (SET Asia). Willow TV have the rights to stream the series live on the internet to all regions except the USA, Canada and the Caribbean.
Doordarshan were successful with their bid after the Madras High Court permitted Prasar Bharti, the national broadcaster, to engage any producer except Zee Telefilms and ESPN-Star. Ten Sports and Sony, two rival channels, had expressed their interest to produce the series, but Doordarshan won the contract. Doordarshan had also telecast the home series against Australia and South Africa earlier in the season on the advice of the Supreme Court.
Pakistan will play three Tests and six one-day internationals on their first full tour of India since 1999, and will be keen to avenge their series defeat when India visited last year. "The rivalry between India and Pakistan is without doubt the most intense in the history of sport and will attract over a billion passionate fans around the world," said Raval Singh, an executive vice-president of SET Asia.
The first Test begins at Mohali on Tuesday (March 8).
pakboy March 8th, 2005, 12:59 AM its coming on sony tv.
zees March 30th, 2005, 02:02 PM ISLAMABAD: PM Aziz said Islamabad Media City to be set up in Blue Area, having facilities for production and uplinking through satellites.
He said the concept of the city was part of government’s policy to further strengthen the media which already was playing a key role in country’s socio-economic uplift.
He said the success stories in different fields need to be projected through international media.
Pakistan, he said, has a rich heritage and custodian of oldest civilization.
“We have the highest mountain peaks, longest glaciers outside the polar region and heritage of Indus valley and Buddhist civilizations.”
This provides us great potential for attracting tourists from abroad. There was a need to project this heritage and civilization proactively to promote tourism.
He said a number of development activities in the federal capital were on the anvil including construction of two new hotels. He said the Civil Aviation Authority has been given directions for immediate implementation on the project of new Islamabad International airport.
The Aims & Objectives
The Prime Minister said the new construction would boost economic activity, create new jobs and help ancillary industry.
He said the government was removing bottlenecks to speed up the process of industrialisation and privatisation in the country.
He said under the government-private partnership, Textile Cities, Garment Cities and Industrial Estates would be set up across the country. These he said would cater to specific industries which would deal with export goods.
FK March 31st, 2005, 05:11 AM KARACHI, March 30: Federal Minister for Ports and Shipping Babar Khan Ghauri has said that the government will develop a modern "media city" in Port Qasim area to cater to the growing demand of newspapers and television channels.
He was addressing a press conference at Karachi Press Club along with the Secretary and Director General Ports and Shipping.
The minister said that 100acre land at Port Qasim had been allocated for this purpose and expressions of interest (EOIs) would be invited next week from interested parties. He said that this city would have most modern telecommunication and IT facilities for setting up newspaper offices and modern studios for television channels.
He pointed out that the ministry of information technology would be requested to provide the latest and high-tech services like DSL line facility to speedy transfer of news.
Mr Ghauri said that this idea had been developed on instructions of the president to provide most modern facilities and better working environment to media. He said that the prime minister would be requested to perform the ground breaking ceremony of this prestigious project.
The minister said that the land would be provided on official rates to media people. A plot of one acre for setting up a press club would also be provided there, he said. However, he made it clear that the building of Karachi Press Club would remain at its existing place as it had its own history and importance for journalists.
About the allotments in the residential scheme for overseas Pakistanis "Al-Watan", Mr Ghauri said that 1,023 plots had been allotted while 357 applications were pending. He further said that US$7 million had been earned from these allotments. Private sector would also be involved in developing industrial park at Port Qasim land, he disclosed.
zees April 8th, 2005, 05:33 AM KARACHI: The Department of Marine Sciences, Karachi University, is being contacted by Geo TV for research into its exclusive documentary "Jo Gehrai Main Gaye".
This is the first documentary of its kind produced by any Pakistan TV channel. In this documentary viewers will see marine life forms never seen before on any South Asian TV Channel.
Footage of "Jo Gehari Main Gaye" includes some creatures that will be witnessed for the first time like the highly poisonous scorpion fish, barracudas, captain fish, colourful parrot fish, and other creatures that are not easily identified. The Department of Marine Sciences of the Karachi University will carry out research on those unidentified creatures.
Abdul Aziz Khan, co-producer of the documentary said, "This is the first Pakistani programme of its kind. So we do not have previous research material and in our country the art of diving is very rare. These were the real hurdles. We go through the research reports by Pakistan Navy divers.
This documentary is exclusive, unique, and important in that it attracts the attention of our people to our marine resources and informs them that we are also very lucky like other nations to have a beautiful sea.
UnitedPakistan April 8th, 2005, 01:22 PM good to see us developing!
nice find zees
zees April 21st, 2005, 06:15 AM Geo now available in UK on SKY digital channel 838 and in Europe on E-Pehla
Aryan April 21st, 2005, 08:22 PM Guys...I wanna subscribe to Sky, but have got no clue how to get the Pakistani channels, anyone got any ideas on what to do, and how much it would cost?
zees April 22nd, 2005, 07:44 AM Flagship channel from the Pakistan-based Jang group of media companies, has now decided to spread it wings and is eyeing the UK market, while firm in the belief that India is not yet ready for it.
As part of the expansion plans, Geo TV is also mulling having an additional channel, Geo TV-Entertainment, in Pakistan. The existing channel, Geo TV, transforms into a news channel there. The Jang group has also applied for a DTH licence in Pakistan.
Geo TV for the UK debut, it is part of a game plan to have a footprint in markets where there is sizeable South Asian population.
In the US, the infotainment channel, which made its debut there last year on the EchoStar platform, beams into approximately 35,0000 homes there targeting primarily South Asian viewers. Future target is to reach 50,0000 homes.
Asked about Geo TV’s Indian plans, the company executive said that though an entertainment channel is being planned for the South Asian region, where the aim would be to exploit the Indian market more, the present regulatory regime in India would not make it commercially viable.
“A major part of our revenue comes from subscription and in the absence of any firm regulatory mechanism to this effect (read conditional access system), the Indian market looks a bit nebulous to enter into at present,” the executive said.
However, Geo TV is available in quite a few Indian cable homes and, at one time, the channel was looking at having distribution tie-ups with cable ops and MSOs here.
Explaining the difficulties in making an Indian foray, the Geo TV executive said that the channel has been on air without advertisements since inception, depending on subscription revenue. “In India, the mechanism for accounting the subscription revenue is still hazy and, hence, we would not like to make an Indian debut so soon,” the executive said.
Having an Indian presence would make eminent sense for the channel as several Indian television actors are increasingly being employed by Geo for their soaps and serials. Artistes like Sangeeta Ghosh, Aamna Shariff and Vikas Bhalla have been signed for serials on Geo.
As a stand alone channel in the US, it is priced at $ 15 per subscriber per month, while the target is to price the channel at Ł 15 in the UK when it makes an entry there.
For UK the programming would be on the lines of the US feed and the effort will be to have localised content to cater to the South Asian viewers. The channel would also beam dramas, among other entertainment fare.
Geo TV airs programmes partly in Urdu and in English in the USA and has sizeable portion of local content The channel forayed into the Middle-East last year and airs there as a free-to-air channel on the Phela bouquet.
UnitedPakistan April 22nd, 2005, 04:09 PM Man 15 dollars isnt bad!
do they cater to Time Warner customers?
Nomi September 21st, 2005, 10:36 PM Indus Media Group (IMG) of Pakistan is launching a new premium channel by December 2005 for North America and Europe. INDUS will be a premium service that offers a combination of the best programming from IMG's popular channels: INDUS VISION and INDUS PLUS|NEWS. INDUS, a 24 hour general entertainment channel, will comprise of a strong lineup of the best in Urdu programming that includes: dramas, soaps, sitcoms, thrillers, talk shows, infotainment, game shows, cooking shows, lifestyle & leisure, news, cartoons, current affairs, documentaries, films, and more. In addition, INDUS MUSIC will also be launched in North America and Europe.
IMG is also in talks with major web based distributors for launching it's channels to a global audience via high quality broadband streaming.
www.indus.tv
Nomi September 21st, 2005, 10:40 PM http://www.indus.tv/urdumusicvideos.php
INDUS TV AND INDUS MUSIC TO LAUNCH IN USA, CANADA, AND UK.
SuperMan44 September 21st, 2005, 11:07 PM Who will broadcast this channel (DISHnetwork, BellExpressVu..etc)?
cntower September 21st, 2005, 11:13 PM All we want in Indus Music...bus yaar that channel beyond great!
pakboy September 21st, 2005, 11:15 PM youve allready posted this topic 3 times,
are you there advertising head.
Nomi September 22nd, 2005, 12:06 AM DISH NETWORK in the USA
ROGERS CABLE in CANADA
sher-e-lahore September 22nd, 2005, 02:00 AM good news man I waz thinking they should brodcast this Channel after Geo TV .... I have watched INdus channel while I visted Pakistan many times good channel .. guy's can anyone tell me is Dec2005 is for UK too ? please let me know again good news ..
sher-e-lahore September 22nd, 2005, 02:03 AM when't on the webside got this info but no dates ??? ? ? ??
United Kingdom
Distributor E-mail Address / Website Channels Carried
Satellite info@indus.tv www.indus.tv INDUS TV and INDUS MUSIC. Coming Soon! INDUS will be available soon through Direct-To-Home using a satellite dish and decoder.
Nomi September 22nd, 2005, 02:25 AM Indus is in talks for Eurobird (SKY) for the United Kingdom. The launch will occur by year-end.
zees September 22nd, 2005, 01:07 PM Indus Music is my favourite
Sultan September 23rd, 2005, 01:51 AM Urdu Channel TV One hops aboard Asiasat
(22 September 2005 2:00 pm)
Satellite operator Asiasat and Pakistan's Airwaves Media have announced the signing of a lease agreement.
The deal is for C-band capacity on Asiasat 3S for digital free to air distribution of a new Urdu television channel, TV One, to Pakistan and over 50 countries and regions in the Asia Pacific.
TV One has commenced broadcasting on Asiasat 3S. It offers a mix of programming content including news and current affairs, entertainment, drama and music. Airwaves Media chairman Taher A. Khan said, "We are very excited about the launch of our new channel TV One on Asiasat 3S marking a new era of our media services in Asia. By broadcasting on Asia's most popular satellite platform and in free to air format, we are able to rapidly grow our television viewership across our country and beyond."
Asiasat CEO Peter Jackson said, "We are very pleased to have TV One on Asiasat 3S, catering for the Urdu speaking community in Asia. This new addition further strengthens our television neighbourhood for the South Asian market, affirming Asiasat's leading position in regional and local language programming here in Asia".
TV One is available on Asiasat 3S in C-band with the following reception parameters:
Transponder: 3V
Frequency: 3739 MHz
Polarisation: Vertical
Modulation: QPSK
Symbol Rate: 2.8936 Msym/sec
FEC: 3/4
** Airwaves Media is a subsidiary of the largest advertising group in Pakistan, the Interflow Group of Companies. It cliams to be is the largest cinema ad sales company in Pakistan. Besides TV One, Airwaves Media runs a FM Station.
Dallas1 September 23rd, 2005, 06:15 AM Unfortunately most of our local cable operators don’t even bother to show all these new Pakistani TV channels, our cable operators (jahil public) are busy promoting Indian channels
dost_4u September 23rd, 2005, 10:02 AM jahil jo ho-vay
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
cntower September 26th, 2005, 05:26 AM Yaar one of us should go for auditions on the IM VJ Hunt...
cntower September 26th, 2005, 06:14 AM Don't worry it's these uneducated people who watch that trash; why? Simple; Pakistani stuff is way to complex for them. Seriously, I love watching Pakistani Dramas and listening to Pakistani Music because it's modern and have issues which we can relate too instead of the typical love triangle bullshit. Take a look at the high/modern class teens and the low class teens. BIG DIFFERENCE in choice of entertainment...it all comes down to education...
kronik September 26th, 2005, 06:28 AM Its a matter of choice, fellas.
Dont look down upon your own people because their tastes are different.
cntower September 26th, 2005, 06:33 AM Oh please Kronik...go look at the rich class in india and what they listen and watch compared to the low class...you'll find the answer...
kronik September 26th, 2005, 06:41 AM Oh please Kronik...go look at the rich class in india and what they listen and watch compared to the low class...you'll find the answer...
I am pretty sure money must make a difference on ones entertainment preferences. :)
The difference between you and me is that i will not hate anyone from my country if they like Pakistani entertainment.
As for the higher income versus lower class, all i can say is, a poor student in a village will listen to song on his/her radio, while the, 'rich' urban counterpart will be at a club dancing to that song's remix.
Alright, my times up, y'all been great. Enjoy your thread.
cntower September 26th, 2005, 06:50 AM Ok ya well here it's a different story; fact is if your a paindoo if you watch indian stuff sorry but it's a fact. Go see what the teens of Defence, Lahore are listening and watching compared to Mugalpura, Lahore.
But who exactly said I hated that? I enjoy calling some "paindoos"...hehe...
cntower September 26th, 2005, 07:00 AM http://www.cnbcpakistan.com/logo.jpg
http://www.cnbcpakistan.com
CNBC Pakistan Installs Pebble Beach Automation
May 12, 2005 2:36 PM
NAB Update e-newsletter
Pebble Beach Systems installed its multichannel Neptune system at the new CNBC facility in Karachi, Pakistan. This system will provide the playout capabilities for two new news studios, which are due on air later this year.
Pakistani company VNTV, which is supported by NBC-Universal-owned CNBC, and will have full access to the CNBC global program network, owns CNBC Pakistan. When it goes to air later this year, the channel will broadcast a 24-hour mixture of locally sourced and international business television programs in both Urdu and English.
At CNBC Pakistan, the Pebble Beach Neptune automation system will control a seven-port Omneon video server, five VTRs and an NVision master control switcher. The system also interfaces to ENPS using the MOS protocol. This MOS interface supports rundown imports from ENPS and dynamic updates. They are also user-definable fields enabling important information to be transferred from the newsroom system to the automation system. The CNBC Pakistan system will start as a two-channel unit but has been designed to expand to control other channels if the need arises.
Link (http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/nab_update/20050512/Cnbc-pakistan-pebble-20050512/index.html)
Has it already started or what?
zees September 26th, 2005, 07:07 AM Geo is also launching business channel +10 new channels
All channels will be available on Direct to Home, mayb this 1 also
Dallas1 September 26th, 2005, 07:21 AM can some one please explain what is Direct to Home? is it HDTV?
cntower September 26th, 2005, 07:47 AM Yes Zees I saw it in a news clipping in Dawn and The News. Wonder what GEO is up too...
zees September 26th, 2005, 08:01 AM can some one please explain what is Direct to Home? is it HDTV?
it's just like SKY in UK, internet facility will be also available
Recently, Pemra gave licence to Cross Current and ARY
go to: www.crosscurrent.com.pk
UnitedPakistan September 26th, 2005, 01:24 PM Geo has got www.aag.tv
Intoxication September 26th, 2005, 03:43 PM Thank god I miss INDUS so much. I remember when it was first launched in pakistan there was so much buzz about it. Finally i'll be able to see indus after a along while.
Intoxication September 26th, 2005, 03:49 PM There's no need to call poor ppl paindoo. The reason y they behave the way they do is coz the gov (especially previous one's) don't want to educate them coz they know if everyone is educated then no one will take crap from the government.
Intoxication September 26th, 2005, 05:12 PM PTV to launch 4 channels: minister
PESHAWAR: Minister of State for Information and Broadcasting Anisa Zeb Tahirkheli has said that the government is planning to launch four separate channels of Pakistan Television to facilitate promotion of regional languages and cultures.
Talking to newsmen at a luncheon, which she hosted in their honour at a hotel on Saturday, the minister said the proposed channels — Abaseen, Panjnad, Mehran and Bolan — would be a part of the PTV, but they would have more time for the coverage of socio-political and cultural activities in their regional languages. She said promotion of regional languages would strengthen the cause of rural development and good governance in the provinces.
She said the government wanted to decentralise the PTV so that its four wings (provincial stations) could explore more venues of development and progress.
Referring to the demand made by the people of remote areas, she said the government had so far installed six boosters across the NWFP to extend the telecast service of the PTV to remote and hilly areas of the province. She said the PTV had a wider and effective range of telecast and it was trying to reach the hidden and far flung areas of the country. Ms Tahirkheli said that it was an age of media that had opened up the societies and bridged the gap between them.
Replying to another question, she said the cabinet division was dealing with the Pemra affairs and it was no more a wing of the ministry of information and broadcasting. She dispelled the impression that the Pemra had evolved a set of draconian regulations, which were opposed to the freedom of press and a violation of privacy.
She reiterated that the government was trying to implement the 7th Wage Award in the newspaper establishments, but, there were some hurdles which hampered its early implementation. She denied that the government was backing the newspaper owners against the demands of working journalists and newspaper employees. She said high-power parliamentary committee had been deputed with the task of the wage award’s implementation.
She agreed that the establishment of an independent television commission being a watchdog was necessary to regulate the affairs of electronic media.
She said that genuine working journalists would be enlisted into the allotments of plots in housing schemes being developed in Islamabad.
The minister agreed that journalists from all the four provinces should be accommodated, in accordance with their population quota, into the new housing schemes.
Tagga September 26th, 2005, 10:28 PM ^Actually Cn is right but its not because of money its because of education, most people here dont know how to raise a family, they dont know what standard of life is, the Govt. isnt the only one to blame, most of the people are responsible for their own poor state, some Govt. officials have no problem in saying that they take bribe and that they dont pay any taxes, and when you ask them why they say that the Govt. pays us nothing and we will die if we stop taking bribe and start paying taxes and when you ask them how many children you have they will feel proud when saying that they have 5 children.
Govt. schools are of extremely low standards Govt. colleges are even worse, students learn nothing but phudi and lora in Govt. institutions, teachers are ill mannered and they talk in dirty language, and when the Govt. privatises an institution the standards get much better but most of the illiterate people say "Yahoodi ko baich dia, Pervaiz Musharaff kafir hay".
In Pakistan there is no such thing as a crime, you can do any thing, not paying taxes is a normal thing, you can take bribe, and when someone asks you why do you do it you can use poverty as a sheild.
Dallas1 September 27th, 2005, 08:40 AM That will be the wastage of resources. They (Gov) can’t even manage the current channel I wonder what would they doing with additional ones. The whole ministry of information needs to be privatized and its minister needs to be kicked out of the ministry
zees September 27th, 2005, 11:18 AM well, it's a nice move
swerveut March 3rd, 2006, 06:38 AM German envoy says media maligning Pakistan
By Our Reporter
RAWALPINDI, March 2: German Ambassador Dr Gunter Mulack has criticized the international media for portraying a grim and violent picture of Pakistan. “World media is maligning Pakistan’s position internationally that is having negative impacts on trade and economic structure of the country”, the ambassador said while speaking to the members of Rawalpindi Chamber of Commerce and Industry (RCCI) during his visit to the chamber offices on Wednesday.
He said owing to the negative picture being highlighted by the international media the country’s reputation was not good for investment.
“People are unaware of the true picture of Pakistan and for investment businessmen look at the security and stability in the country.”
Dr Mulack said Pakistan had a right to protest against publication of sacrilegious caricatures but not in a violent manner.
He said the violence which erupted in Pakistan after cartoons issue had passed wrong signals to outer world. These violent demonstrations forced the cancellation of two trade delegations from Germany, he added.
The ambassador said Pakistan and Germany enjoyed longstanding and congenial economic relations especially in textile industry. The hub of business activities between the two countries is Karachi but now we are moving towards other cities like Lahore and Islamabad-Rawalpindi as well.
He said the two countries were also enjoying excellent political relations and a trade delegation from Pakistan including two ministers would visit Germany next month to take part in an international trade fair.
“Trade developments between Germany and Pakistan are good and we have 25 per cent increase in trade during last year, which is 25 per cent higher than the year 2004, whereas the trade development between Germany and India is 15 per cent.”
The German envoy told the RCCI members that we were trying to make trade delegations to come here and look at the possibilities of investment in Pakistan.
Dr Mulack said German chain of supermarkets — Metro — is planning to start its business in Rawalpindi/Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi. The investment of Metro will be about 170 million euros.
http://www.dawn.com/2006/03/03/nat19.htm
swerveut March 3rd, 2006, 06:41 AM I think the moderate and progressive Pakistanis need to step up our efforts to promote Pakistan on the world scene and tell about the other side of the story that the retarded extremists dont tell about.
We should promote Pakistan so well that when you search google for Pakistan images or any of its major cities, you should not get any negative images on the first ten pages.
UnitedPakistan March 3rd, 2006, 01:35 PM Thank YOU! Thank You!
Pak-German ties warming up!
siali March 3rd, 2006, 02:57 PM We also need some face lift or make over. Walk the talk should be evident when it comes to represent Pakistan
Sikandar August 22nd, 2006, 04:03 AM Bergen, Norway, August 21, 2006. Vizrt Ltd. (Frankfurt Prime Standard, Oslo Main List: VIZ), announces today that it has expanded its market share in Pakistan with sales of USD 1.1 million so far this quarter.
The sale in Pakistan this time is both to Geo TV, once Vizrt’s first customer in Pakistan, who now has decided to expand their Vizrt core technology – and through new sales to Television Media Network (TMN), which is Vizrt’s latest Pakistani customer. TMN is to launch seven 24/7 news channels, one for each of Pakistan’s 7 official languages. The initial order of TMN is for their Urdu channel.
As has been the case for other territories staging general elections, the Pakistani election in 2007 is perceived by Vizrt as having large revenue potential for broadcast graphics, particularly for the start-up channels. These initial sales to Pakistan do not include asset management or archiving products, but are based on broadcast graphics alone.
About Vizrt:
Vizrt offers a new vision for content creation and delivery with an end-to-end solution from ingest to visualization. Our solution combines Vizrt’s true 2D/3D graphics tools with Curious Software’s World Maps and Ardendo’s Asset Management. Running on non pro-prietary software, the combination of these unique cutting edge products ensures a seamless workflow from conception to multi-format distribution. The latest addition to the Vizrt product suite is Viz|3G for hand held devices.
Vizrt’s product suite is used by the world’s leading broadcasters including: CNN, CBS, Fox, BBC, Sky, ITN, ZDF, Star TV, TV Today, CCTV and NHK. Also, many world-class production houses and corporate institutions, including both the New York and London Stock Exchanges, utilize Vizrt solutions.
Sikandar August 22nd, 2006, 04:04 AM Sweet.. can't wait to see GEO's new look.
Unregistered August 22nd, 2006, 08:05 PM Whats Television Media Network? Never heard of them. Also, I think Geo has already launched its new look this August 14th. They have a new set but the reporting standards, and the graphics are the same. I am so confused.....
Sikandar August 22nd, 2006, 10:08 PM It's not that confusing.. TMN is a new 24/7 news channel, as stated in the article. Geo is giving itself a facelift, which includes a new set (which has been completed) and the new graphics will follow shortly.
Unregistered August 22nd, 2006, 10:19 PM hey thanx. Any ideas when this new channel will start? English or Urdu? I really hope it sets a new benchmark in reporting cuz until now all we've had is Geo converting all the news from Jang to electronic form.
FK August 23rd, 2006, 12:55 AM The male reporters of GEO are quite dumb, they lack good english skills and lack confidence.
I would love to see GEO hire some new, experienced talent since they are in the phase of giving themselves a "face lift"
Dallas1 August 23rd, 2006, 08:01 AM I think what Geo needs right now especially after this monsoon season is a good metrologist along with good metrology dept.
FK August 23rd, 2006, 12:18 PM And if they want to be real professional they should drop using GEO in everything that they have .. GEO Sports, GEO Weather, GEO Aurat, GEO Education .. WTF
It just seems like a funny channel due to that.
PakiDoperz August 23rd, 2006, 05:08 PM every channel do this ^^^ like One world Sports (ARY) One World Buisness...AAJ sports ...AAJ buisness
PakiDoperz August 23rd, 2006, 05:10 PM sorry wrong page...msg deleted
Unregistered August 23rd, 2006, 07:30 PM And if they want to be real professional they should drop using GEO in everything that they have .. GEO Sports, GEO Weather, GEO Aurat, GEO Education .. WTF
It just seems like a funny channel due to that.
I agree..It's just too annoying. Plus they also need to give proper credit to PTV or other channels they take their footage from. Blurring PTV's logo doesn't look too professional.
And if someone from Geo is reading this, for the love of god start using an original picture of Islamabad instead of using one taken from Internet with Islamabad.net written all over it. Its not like Geo doesn't have a single digi cam. Is it? :bash:
haawas: i am afraid the channels u mentioned r no benchmarks when it comes to news reporting. They all take cues from Geo, which doesn't help.
shueyb August 30th, 2006, 11:37 AM Television Media Network (TMN) is the electronic media venture of the Daily Express / Lakson group. TMN is making its presence felt in the media sector, as they were the first newspaper to start their operations simultaneously from 7 cities. And now they plan to do the same thing with their TV channels - dedicated TV channels for different regions.
GEO needs a lot of improvement. Their color look too gaudy. The news ticker and subtitles for programs have some grave English mistakes. Seems like not very competent people are at the helm at GEO.
Unregistered August 30th, 2006, 12:07 PM Is Daily Express a good newspaper? Are its reporting standards better than Jang? Lets hope these guys pull it off better than Geo.
FK September 1st, 2006, 03:45 AM And GEO, at some times acts too childish .. like the NY Independence day celebrations a few days back, the title on the top left read "Live from New Yuork"
And I agree that they have quite alot of mistakes on their tickers, and I still say they should get new news casters.
I am yet to see a news caster really stand out in Pakistani Media, maybe we need someone like a Ron Burgundy (Movie Anchorman) of Pakistan?
Dallas1 September 1st, 2006, 10:12 AM ^ If you think Geo acts childish try ARY when u get chance. Most of ARY’s newscasters seems malnourish, poor pronunciation they can’t differentiate between AIDS and ADS. Poor back ground bad choice of color schemes. I thinks its only Dr. Shaid Masood who is keeping it alive
FK September 1st, 2006, 11:17 PM ^ I've seen that aswell, one newscaster on ARY pronounced Boston as Boostun!
FK November 16th, 2007, 06:31 AM The Electronic & Print Media (Part I) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=131367)
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 08:45 AM PESHAWAR/ISLAMABAD: The government allowed Aaj TV and Dawn News to go on air on Thursday, with certain conditions. However, sources said Aaj TV was allowed back on the condition that two of its talk shows - “Live With Talat” and “Bolta Pakistan” - would not be run. Aaj TV Director News Talat Hussain confirmed that the channel was back on air. “Any understanding between the employer and the government that will infringe on our editorial independence is unacceptable,” he said. “We will either resist or resign from our jobs,” he said.
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007/11/16/story_16-11-2007_pg1_11
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 08:48 AM Actually, there are three parties:
1. Government
2. Media company owners
3. Journalists
Till now, the government has been dealing with media company owners only. Now, they should deal with journalists too or hold direct meetings with them, instead of pressurizing them indirectly through the media company owners.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 08:49 AM The owner of Business Plus and Daily Times is now a minister. Let's see how unbiased they will be now (especially Daily Times).
safe_blood November 16th, 2007, 04:24 PM The owner of Business Plus and Daily Times is now a minister. Let's see how unbiased they will be now (especially Daily Times).
what do you mean hes now a minister,
they are owned by salman taseer, who was a big minister in the early 90s and was in PPP.
but now he has retired yearsss ago, when bb was thrown out second time.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 04:33 PM what do you mean hes now a minister,
they are owned by salman taseer, who was a big minister in the early 90s and was in PPP.
but now he has retired yearsss ago, when bb was thrown out second time.
Isn't he the same Salman Taseer, who has been appointed Commerce Minister of the caretaker government?
A surprise inclusion in the caretaker cabinet is that of Salman Taseer, a businessman and former PPP stalwart. He has been asked to take charge of the commerce ministry.
http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/16/top1.htm
safe_blood November 16th, 2007, 05:48 PM looks like it, but im pretty sure he was retired before
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM Many people in the cabinet are not politicians. For example, Dr. Ishrat Hussain (former governor of State Bank), Lt Gen (R) Hamid Nawaz (former Chairman PIA). Salman Taseer is inducted as a businessman, not as politician.
safe_blood November 16th, 2007, 07:39 PM BREAKING NEWS.
GEO IS BEING CLOSED DOWN
Geo TV being closed
Updated at 2320 PST
KARACHI: There are reports that the government of Pakistan is using its influence with a foreign country to get the Geo TV network closed down.
More to come..
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=32381
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 08:16 PM Yes it's true. Right now, all Geo channels are showing Dr. Shahid Masood only. All news tickers gone. Lower 25% of the screen is covered in red with announcement that Geo is being shut down.
Sikandar November 16th, 2007, 09:12 PM Good riddance.. replace it with DawnNews.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 09:16 PM The given deadline was 1:00 am and now, Geo News gone. According to Dr. Shahid Masood:
- No Geo channel will be shown by any cable operator of Pakistan
- Geo Entertainment, Aag TV and Geo Super will continue on the satellite and if anyone is interested to watch them (in Pakistan or abroad), they must use a satellite dish.
- Geo News will no more be there on satellite too. That is, Geo News will be history.
Media Master November 16th, 2007, 09:21 PM BREAKING NEWS.
GEO IS BEING CLOSED DOWN
Geo TV being closed
Updated at 2320 PST
KARACHI: There are reports that the government of Pakistan is using its influence with a foreign country to get the Geo TV network closed down.
More to come..
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=32381
Its really a bad news for the pakistani all across the globe that the first independent News source of Pakistan is being forced to close its operations from Dubai Media City.Thats a shameful event which has shocked all Pakistani ppl living anywhere in the world.
oogabooga November 16th, 2007, 09:24 PM Its really a bad news for the pakistani all across the globe that the first independent News source of Pakistan is being forced to close its operations from Dubai Media City.Thats a shameful event which has shocked all Pakistani ppl living anywhere in the world.
So let me get this straight.... Any channel of the GEO network will not be aired in Pakistan anymore and the cable operators will not show GEO either?
GEO news will be completely shutdown
In order to view any GEO channel, one would have to get a Satellite Dish
GEO has been forced to shutdown its operations at Dubai Media City.
How can the Government force GEO to shutdown its operation in Media City? Isnt Media City in Dubai?
Sikandar November 16th, 2007, 09:27 PM Its really a bad news for the pakistani all across the globe that the first independent News source of Pakistan is being forced to close its operations from Dubai Media City.Thats a shameful event which has shocked all Pakistani ppl living anywhere in the world.
In GEO's case, "independent" does not mean unbiased, it just means independent, which is useless on it's own. GEO News, being the most popular news channel in Pakistan, was not only unable to provide unbiased news coverage during some of Pakistan's most important moments recently, but actually became worse during these moments.
What did they object to in the Code of Conduct? Did they even read it I wonder?
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 09:36 PM Geo News closed down
Updated at 2505 PST
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates_pics/11-16-2007_32384_l.gif
KARACHI: Under extreme pressure from Musharraf government, Geo News has been shut down late Friday night. This is the latest move by the government to slap the curbs on media especially Geo TV Network, which has been off air with all its entertainment channels since the imposition of emergency.
Earlier, Geo TV network has been ordered to shut down by authorities of the country from where it is being aired. Now, the telecast of Geo News would not be viewed even through dish antenna.
It was told from the authorities of the country where the Geo News is being aired that the news channel would be off air across the globe.
It should be noted that Geo news and its entire sister channels had been closed down across Pakistan after the imposition of emergency.
Earlier, the cable operators in Pakistan were forced to close all channels being operated by Geo Network and the Pakistani viewers were deprived of the great source of information. However, the Geo TV was on air from its Dubai office.
According to Geo News, it was told to the network by the authorities of the concerned country that viewers across the globe would be able to watch the other channels of Geo Network including Geo Entertainment, Aag TV and Geo Super over Dish antenna.
Geo News analyst Dr Shahid Masud said that it is appreciable that Geo administration did not surrender from its viewpoint.
According to Geo TV network, it did not surrender to the will of the government and did not sign any paper of compliance with the government, for which it has been punished that its worldwide telecast is being gagged.
According to Geo News analysts, while nearly all other entertainment channels were allowed to operate freely; however, most discriminately, its entertainment channels were also made off air.
On this occasion, Senior Geo News analyst Kamran Khan, Host of Capital Talk Hamid Mir, Dr Amir Liaquat Hussein, Geo News Senior analyst Nasir Beig Chughtai, Justice (rtd) Saeeduz Zaman Siddiqui, Senior defence analyst (Rtd) Talat Masud and British member of Parliament Mohammed Sarwar expressed their grief over this government step regarding closing down the Geo News network and condemned this fresh government attack on the media.
It should be noted that nearly all the news channels of the country were taken off air, as soon as the emergency was announced in the country. PEMRA hammered out code of conduct for the media to follow and it was said only those channels would be allowed to operate if they fall in line with the government wishes.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 09:37 PM Lo ji now dictatorship has risen again. Another proof of free media and judiciary by Military regime.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM Its really a bad news for the pakistani all across the globe that the first independent News source of Pakistan is being forced to close its operations from Dubai Media City.Thats a shameful event which has shocked all Pakistani ppl living anywhere in the world.
Indeed it’s shameful for the freedom of the countries media.
Thanks arsalanj for the updates.
FK November 16th, 2007, 09:48 PM Lo ji now dictatorship has risen again. Another proof of free media and judiciary by Military regime.
Yeah good one, GEO (as I previously said) had ego issues, everyother channel, even Aaj accepted the new Code of Conduct and their back on the air.
So if Aaj accepted the CoC, it clearly proves that GEO just had shown itself as such a saint that accepting the CoC would harm their reputation (as if the CoC is against them).
And I cant see how the Govt. would force the UAE to close down GEO from Media City, most likely its their own sad excuse and another emotional drama (such as the Lab pay aati hai dua).
And I just fail to understand how people are eyewashed about the way these channels were exploiting their freedom, its like for people that it "never happened".
Lets not be biased and just criticize the Govt./"Military Regime".
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 09:49 PM How can the Government force GEO to shutdown its operation in Media City? Isnt Media City in Dubai?
The government has used its influence on UAE. As you know, there are very good relations between these two countries. UAE's prince regularly visits Rahimyar Khan for hunting and he has palaces there too. He might have been blackmailed "Ban Geo News or don't ever come to Pakistan" :D
Secondly, how much "freedom of expression" is respected in Middle East countries?
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 09:55 PM It seems that Fahad knew that Geo would be closed today. That's why he created a new thread today because long discussions were expected :D
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:02 PM The government has used its influence on UAE. As you know, there are very good relations between these two countries. UAE's prince regularly visits Rahimyar Khan for hunting and he has palaces there too. He might have been blackmailed "Ban Geo News or don't ever come to Pakistan" :D
Secondly, how much "freedom of expression" is respected in Middle East countries?
Yeah Government might have blackmailed the UAE’s prince.
It seems that Fahad knew that Geo would be closed today. That's why he created a new thread today because long discussions were expected :D
Lol
Red aRRow November 16th, 2007, 10:05 PM :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
Traitors finally getting what they deserve.:cheers:
Media Master November 16th, 2007, 10:10 PM So let me get this straight.... Any channel of the GEO network will not be aired in Pakistan anymore and the cable operators will not show GEO either?
GEO news will be completely shutdown
In order to view any GEO channel, one would have to get a Satellite Dish
GEO has been forced to shutdown its operations at Dubai Media City.
How can the Government force GEO to shutdown its operation in Media City? Isnt Media City in Dubai?
My dear oogabooga, Where i have wrote that Dubai Media city is in Pakistan?remember it that Musharraf is the supplier of Shaikhs thats why he infeunced the government of dubai to shut down Geo Tv from there. Its the second time that our friends from Middle East have acted against the will of Pakistani Public. firstly Saudi Govt. interfered at Nawaz Sharif's return and now dubai/UAE Ruler have shut down Geo.
Whats Next? ARY ONE WORLD?????
THIS IS MODERN PAKISTAN WHICH MUSHARRAF WANTS.
WITHOUT JUSTICE & WITHOUT FREE MEDIA
WHERE ARE YOU MR. BUSH SLEEPING.
Remember in Venezuala a TV Station was shut down by the govt. and US Govt. strongly criticized Hugo Shavez govt.
Now let us see what US do in the case of Geo TV.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 10:10 PM CNN says that ARY is also gone. Can anyone confirm it if ARY Digital and ARY One World are still there?
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/16/pakistan.tv/index.html?section=cnn_latest
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:13 PM :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
Traitors finally getting what they deserve.:cheers:
There is only one Traitor. You know what i mean.
My favourite quote
"Nation has become hostage to one man's ambition"
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 10:14 PM By the way, Geo can opt for shifting its setup to UK. ARY Digital was incepted there and that time, they had no studios in UAE or Pakistan, but their channel was beamed in Middle East as well as in Pakistan. It would be expensive but not possible.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:15 PM CNN says that ARY is also gone. Can anyone confirm it if ARY Digital and ARY One World are still there?
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/16/pakistan.tv/index.html?section=cnn_latest
Let me check it.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:17 PM Yes ARY One transmission has been put off air. They are showing it live on ARY One headline news.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 10:17 PM Just confirmed from a few people that ARY One is also gone and the channel is showing this message:
ARY ONE WORLD TRANMISSION HAS BEEN PUT OFF AIR
My favorite leader is becoming the worst leader for me. Why the government has become so intolerant?
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:19 PM So Arsalan ARY one is based in UK. How they can shut down that channel.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 10:19 PM Thanks thePakMan for confirming.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:19 PM Just confirmed from a few people that ARY One is also gone and the channel is showing this message:
ARY ONE WORLD TRANMISSION HAS BEEN PUT OFF AIR
My favorite leader is becoming the worst leader for me. Why the government has become so intolerant?
I am getting the same thing on the TV.
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:20 PM :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
Traitors finally getting what they deserve.:cheers:
:wave:
:hug:
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 10:21 PM So Arsalan ARY one is based in UK. How they can shut down that channel.
No, ARY One is based in UAE and uplinks from Dubai Media City. They do have studios in UK and only some of the programs are broadcasted from there.
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:21 PM Musharraf is the supplier of Shaikhs
:)
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:24 PM Thanks thePakMan for confirming.
No problem. Now on ARY Digital they are showing that around 8 channels are put off air.
Media Master November 16th, 2007, 10:28 PM By the way, Geo can opt for shifting its setup to UK. ARY Digital was incepted there and that time, they had no studios in UAE or Pakistan, but their channel was beamed in Middle East as well as in Pakistan. It would be expensive but not possible.
Now ppl of Pakistan should boycott PTV completely and stop paying their PTV Licence fees as a protest. we are now forced to watch one man.
Did anybody noticed that from some days all returned-to-cable channels are airing only one ad in their transmission i.e. KHUSHAAL PUNJAAB & Mr. Pervaiz Elahi. I am fed up to watch all channels showing this ad during each & every break.I think that's the reward of them signing the CODE OF CONDUCT from PEMRA.
Geo was telecasting their transmission till 2.11 AM PST.after Shahid Masood's live telecast they showed HAMID MIR's Capital Talk & Headline News and now i think that it is stopped forcily by the authorities in the Dubai Media City.
Now it is an eye opener to the world that how much freedom of speech is there in the so called third world i.e. Pakistan & Middle Eastern region specially U.A.E(Supposed to be the free port & centre of world trade) Saudi Arabia etc.
Its too much now & public should be on the street now for their rights otherwise 'dastan bhi naa ho gee hamari dastaano main'
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:29 PM I am watching satellite here. GEO News, ARY One and ARY digital are all showing the same message on TV screens.
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:29 PM Now ppl of Pakistan should boycott PTV completely and stop paying their PTV Licence fees as a protest. we are now forced to watch one man.
AAJ TV is on the air :)
Did anybody noticed that from some days all returned-to-cable channels are airing only one ad in their transmission i.e. KHUSHAAL PUNJAAB & Mr. Pervaiz Elahi.
Although I havent seen it yet, but its better then Time Checks after every 15 minutes :)
I must say, a Bio Amla Time Check seems quite professional and acceptable during an interview with the Prime Minister :)
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:31 PM Now ppl of Pakistan should boycott PTV completely and stop paying their PTV Licence fees as a protest. we are now forced to watch one man.
Did anybody noticed that from some days all returned-to-cable channels are airing only one ad in their transmission i.e. KHUSHAAL PUNJAAB & Mr. Pervaiz Elahi. I am fed up to watch all channels showing this ad during each & every break.I think that's the reward of them signing the CODE OF CONDUCT from PEMRA.
Geo was telecasting their transmission till 2.11 AM PST.after Shahid Masood's live telecast they showed HAMID MIR's Capital Talk & Headline News and now i think that it is stopped forcily by the authorities in the Dubai Media City.
Now it is an eye opener to the world that how much freedom of speech is there in the so called third world i.e. Pakistan & Middle Eastern region specially U.A.E(Supposed to be the free port & centre of world trade) Saudi Arabia etc.
Its too much now & public should be on the street now for their rights otherwise 'dastan bhi naa ho gee hamari dastaano main'
Yep I agree with you. I mean it doesn't make sense to pay for cable if GEO and ARY channels are off air.
Red aRRow November 16th, 2007, 10:32 PM When the current government gave all the freedom in the world to the media, they started biting the hand that fed them. Always ranting about 'dictatorship', 'army rule' and how everything wrong in the country was some sort of government conspiracy and didn't at all indulge in educating the masses or work toward the collective interest of Pakistan.
This channel has worked to undermine the interest of our country and failed to abide by the rules like other channels and did not sign the new code of conduct drafted by elected members of the country's population.
So now they will get the taste of the real thing and will miss the freedom that they abused for such a long time. I say good riddance.
:nocrook::nocrook::nocrook:
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:33 PM I am watching satellite here. GEO News, ARY One and ARY digital are all showing the same message on TV screens.
I'm watching this drama on GEO :dunno:
I must say Iman Ali looks quite nice even in dramas :cheers:
spyk November 16th, 2007, 10:34 PM ^^ they should have showed some flexibility in these rough times for the country
they were asked to stop capital talk with hamid mir, meray mutabiq with shahid masood and fire ansar abbasi from jang group. but they weren't willing
now no more propoganda which makes it seem like there is a war-like situation going on in pakistan :banana:
but i do hope AAG and Geo super are allowed back on the cables in pakistan :) they are good channels contributing POSITIVELY and not just creating a mass depression syndrome among the public like GEO news
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:35 PM When the current government gave all the freedom in the world to the media, they started biting the hand that fed them. Always ranting about 'dictatorship', 'army rule' and how everything wrong in the country was some sort of government conspiracy and didn't at all indulge in educating the masses or work toward the collective interest of Pakistan.
This channel has worked to undermine the interest of our country and failed to abide by the rules like other channels and did not sign the new code of conduct drafted by elected members of the country's population.
So now they will get the taste of the real thing and will miss the freedom that they abused for such a long time. I say good riddance.
:nocrook::nocrook::nocrook:
Shahid Masood was saying we appreciate GEO for not surrendering to the will of the Govt.
:nuts::weird:
spyk November 16th, 2007, 10:38 PM aww. he looked so upset. i felt bad :(
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:38 PM Freedom doesn't mean that all the channels should be pro Musharaf. They should be independent and show the reality.
It’s wrong to assume that these channels showed stuff which undermined the interest of country. They were all independent channels. Yes they did undermine the interest of dictator but not the country.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:41 PM aww. he looked so upset. i felt bad :(
I felt bad for him, but I am happy some one stood up. We can only bow to GOD.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 10:41 PM Although Dawn and Aaj have accepted the new Code of Conduct, but still they are criticizing the government, showing live press conferences of opposition leaders, visuals of police brutally beating lawyers/students etc. It means the new Code of Conduct is not as harsh as it has been hyped by Geo. Geo should not have any issue in agreeing to it.
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:42 PM Freedom doesn't mean that all the channels should be pro Musharaf. They should be independent and show the reality.
It’s wrong to assume that these channels showed stuff which undermined the interest of country. They were all independent channels. Yes they did undermine the interest of dictator but not the country.
Yeah, negociating with that terrorist Rashid Ghazi and displaying his last message to wage holy war on the Government was real professional :happy:
I seriously would like to see someone from CNN negociate with terrorists over the phone and CALL THEM as GEO/ARY/OTHERS were doing.
And whats with time checks?
But nonetheless, hats off to what they did as some people would never be able to look at the bad things the media did :applause:
spyk November 16th, 2007, 10:43 PM Now it is an eye opener to the world that how much freedom of speech is there in the so called third world i.e. Pakistan & Middle Eastern region specially U.A.E(Supposed to be the free port & centre of world trade) Saudi Arabia etc.
freedom in saudi arabia? :weird: they censored forbes magazine cuz it showed the kings wealth and banned "the kingdom"
and also in the gulf, there is little freedom of speech when it comes to talking about the govt. or royal families etc
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:43 PM Although Dawn and Aaj have accepted the new Code of Conduct, but still they are criticizing the government, showing live press conferences of opposition leaders, visuals of police brutally beating lawyers/students etc. It means the new Code of Conduct is not as harsh as it has been hyped by Geo. Geo should not have any issue in agreeing to it.
I posted the new CoC in the last thread :)
Media Master November 16th, 2007, 10:44 PM Pakman What is that message saying?
Media Master November 16th, 2007, 10:46 PM AAJ TV is on the air :)
Although I havent seen it yet, but its better then Time Checks after every 15 minutes :)
I must say, a Bio Amla Time Check seems quite professional and acceptable during an interview with the Prime Minister :)
But without TALAT HUSSAIN & BOLTA PAKISTAN programmes it lacks the current Affairs thing in a News & Current affairs channel.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:46 PM I'm watching this drama on GEO :dunno:
I must say Iman Ali looks quite nice even in dramas :cheers:
Iman Ali is hot man.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:48 PM Pakman What is that message saying?
ARY ONE WORLD TRANMISSION HAS BEEN PUT OFF AIR
But without TALAT HUSSAIN & BOLTA PAKISTAN programmes it lacks the current Affairs thing in a News & Current affairs channel.
I am a big fan of Bolta Pakistan and Talat Hussain. That would be sad news.
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:50 PM Yeah, negociating with that terrorist Rashid Ghazi and displaying his last message to wage holy war on the Government was real professional :happy:
I seriously would like to see someone from CNN negociate with terrorists over the phone and CALL THEM as GEO/ARY/OTHERS were doing.
And whats with time checks?
But nonetheless, hats off to what they did as some people would never be able to look at the bad things the media did :applause:
That was wrong I agree with you. It was not professional at all.
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:51 PM Print, electronic media laws amended: two ordinances promulgated
ISLAMABAD (updated on: November 04, 2007, 04:55 PST): President General Pervez Musharraf on Saturday promulgated two Ordinances amending laws related to the print and the electronic media, prohibiting them to publish or broadcast statements that abet terrorist activities or terrorism.
The ordinances to amend the Press, Newspapers, News Agencies and Books Registration Ordinance 2002 and the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority Ordinance 2002 will be effective with immediate effect.
In the Ordinance dealing with press a new section 5A has been inserted which prohibits publication of certain material; photographs of suicide bombers, terrorists, bodies of victims, statements of militants and extremist and any other thing which promotes or abets terrorist activities or terrorism.
The section also prohibits projection of any thing that is based on sectarianism, ethnicism or racialism, that defames, and brings into ridicule or disrepute the head of state, or members of the armed forces or executive, judicial or legislative organs of the state.
It also prohibits any material that is likely to jeopardise or be prejudicial to the ideology of Pakistan or the sovereignty, integrity or security of Pakistan, besides any material, that is likely to incite violence or hatred or create interfaith disorder.
Under the ordinance, in a situation of emergency, the district co-ordination officer, or the deputy commissioner may suspend the declaration for a period not exceeding 30 days.
The ordinance dealing with the electronic media similarly prohibits broadcast video footage of suicide bombers, terrorists, victims, statements of militants or anything that abets terrorism.
It also directs the channels to ensure that no anchor, moderator or host propagates any opinion that is prejudicial to the ideology of Pakistan or integrity of Pakistan.
The amendment prohibits broadcast of any material that defames or brings into ridicule head of state, members of armed forces, executive or legislative or judicial organs and any programme on a matter this is subjudice. A new insertion also prohibits foreign broadcasts.
The authority or the chairman under a new sub-section may seize broadcast or distribution equipment and seal the premises and in an emergency may direct closure for a period as it may determine.
It also prohibits live coverage of incidents of violence and directs installation of time-delay equipment to prevent any such violation. The violators shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term that may extend to three years or with a fine, which may extend to ten million rupees, or with both. The distributors who violate may face imprisonment of up to one year or fine which may extend to five million rupees, or both.
Copyright APP (Associated Press of Pakistan), 2007
Defame: de·fame
1. to attack the good name or reputation of, as by uttering or publishing maliciously or falsely anything injurious; slander or libel; calumniate: The newspaper editorial defamed the politician.
2. Archaic. to disgrace; bring dishonor upon.
3. Archaic. to accuse.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defame
I guess they want to:
1. Display terrorism, dead bodies, blood, gore.
2. Defame (Read meaning) the Armed Forces, executive, judicial & legislative.
You are free to criticize, but there should be responsibility - President Musharraf.
:)
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:52 PM Although Dawn and Aaj have accepted the new Code of Conduct, but still they are criticizing the government, showing live press conferences of opposition leaders, visuals of police brutally beating lawyers/students etc. It means the new Code of Conduct is not as harsh as it has been hyped by Geo. Geo should not have any issue in agreeing to it.
Read my above post :)
spyk November 16th, 2007, 10:53 PM Freedom doesn't mean that all the channels should be pro Musharaf. They should be independent and show the reality.
It’s wrong to assume that these channels showed stuff which undermined the interest of country. They were all independent channels. Yes they did undermine the interest of dictator but not the country.
yea. creating so much political uncertainty defi. serves the interest of the country. and behaving like pakistan may aag lag gaye hai.
and urging a revolt agaisnt the govt.
continously urging the govt. to "negiotate" with terrorists, and, to stop killing "our own people"
taking sides, glorifying that useless chief justice and the crazy lawyers, while defaming the govt.
if u watched GEO, u would think, omg what's happening in pakistan, and, if you actually live there right now, you would know, NOTHINGS HAPPENING!!! LIFES NORMAL!!!
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:53 PM Thanks Fahad for sharing the Code of Conduct.
FK November 16th, 2007, 10:56 PM if u watched GEO, u would think, omg what's happening in pakistan, and, if you actually live there right now, you would know, NOTHINGS HAPPENING!!! LIFES NORMAL!!!
I called up my travel agent to cancel my ticket due to stupid propaganda's being issued, I was talking to the PIA rep. and he was like "What?" "Your cancelling because of this?" "Nothing is happening, everything is as usual as it was" "Its just because your watching it on TV, otherwise everything is peaceful"
Ofcourse I wanted to go, my parents have gotten worried because of our professional coverage.
:)
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 10:59 PM I called up my travel agent to cancel my ticket due to stupid propaganda's being issued, I was talking to the PIA rep. and he was like "What?" "Your cancelling because of this?" "Nothing is happening, everything is as usual as it was" "Its just because your watching it on TV, otherwise everything is peaceful"
Ofcourse I wanted to go, my parents have gotten worried because of our professional coverage.
:)
I thought you are already in Pakistan taking photos of different projects. Lol
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:00 PM I thought you are already in Pakistan taking photos of different projects. Lol
Unfortunately no.
Postponed to March/April 08.
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:01 PM Just to bring the new CoC on this page:
Print, electronic media laws amended: two ordinances promulgated
ISLAMABAD (updated on: November 04, 2007, 04:55 PST): President General Pervez Musharraf on Saturday promulgated two Ordinances amending laws related to the print and the electronic media, prohibiting them to publish or broadcast statements that abet terrorist activities or terrorism.
The ordinances to amend the Press, Newspapers, News Agencies and Books Registration Ordinance 2002 and the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority Ordinance 2002 will be effective with immediate effect.
In the Ordinance dealing with press a new section 5A has been inserted which prohibits publication of certain material; photographs of suicide bombers, terrorists, bodies of victims, statements of militants and extremist and any other thing which promotes or abets terrorist activities or terrorism.
The section also prohibits projection of any thing that is based on sectarianism, ethnicism or racialism, that defames, and brings into ridicule or disrepute the head of state, or members of the armed forces or executive, judicial or legislative organs of the state.
It also prohibits any material that is likely to jeopardise or be prejudicial to the ideology of Pakistan or the sovereignty, integrity or security of Pakistan, besides any material, that is likely to incite violence or hatred or create interfaith disorder.
Under the ordinance, in a situation of emergency, the district co-ordination officer, or the deputy commissioner may suspend the declaration for a period not exceeding 30 days.
The ordinance dealing with the electronic media similarly prohibits broadcast video footage of suicide bombers, terrorists, victims, statements of militants or anything that abets terrorism.
It also directs the channels to ensure that no anchor, moderator or host propagates any opinion that is prejudicial to the ideology of Pakistan or integrity of Pakistan.
The amendment prohibits broadcast of any material that defames or brings into ridicule head of state, members of armed forces, executive or legislative or judicial organs and any programme on a matter this is subjudice. A new insertion also prohibits foreign broadcasts.
The authority or the chairman under a new sub-section may seize broadcast or distribution equipment and seal the premises and in an emergency may direct closure for a period as it may determine.
It also prohibits live coverage of incidents of violence and directs installation of time-delay equipment to prevent any such violation. The violators shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term that may extend to three years or with a fine, which may extend to ten million rupees, or with both. The distributors who violate may face imprisonment of up to one year or fine which may extend to five million rupees, or both.
Copyright APP (Associated Press of Pakistan), 2007
Defame: de·fame
1. to attack the good name or reputation of, as by uttering or publishing maliciously or falsely anything injurious; slander or libel; calumniate: The newspaper editorial defamed the politician.
2. Archaic. to disgrace; bring dishonor upon.
3. Archaic. to accuse.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defame
I guess they want to:
1. Display terrorism, dead bodies, blood, gore.
2. Defame (Read meaning) the Armed Forces, executive, judicial & legislative.
You are free to criticize, but there should be responsibility - President Musharraf.
:)
spyk November 16th, 2007, 11:04 PM :banana:
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 11:05 PM Read my above post :)
Thanks. In the Code of Conduct, the only point that may stop channels to show anti-government stuff is this one:
The section also prohibits projection of any thing that is based on sectarianism, ethnicism or racialism, that defames, and brings into ridicule or disrepute the head of state, or members of the armed forces or executive, judicial or legislative organs of the state.
If a person says on TV that "whatever Musharraf is doing is not right", then I don't think it will be treated as ridiculous for the head of state. The law supposes the extreme cases (like what happened during a SC bar conference). So, criticism of government can be done even under this law.
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:05 PM :banana:
Am I not right then to say it was an ego issue?
Any educated person would understand that new CoC.
And why did AAJ then sign it? Are they traitors now?
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:08 PM Thanks. In the Code of Conduct, the only point that may stop channels to show anti-government stuff is this one:
If a person says on TV that "whatever Musharraf is doing is not right", then I don't think it will be treated as ridiculous for the head of state. The law supposes the extreme cases (like what happened during a SC bar conference). So, criticism of government can be done even under this law.
I wonder where that responsibility is when Hamid Khan says and is showed on TV, "If his Army uniform is his skin*, then we will tear his skin apart" and that lawyer on viagara, Ahmed Ali Kurd saying all of what he says in his speeches.
* He said in urdu "Agar wardi usski chumri hai, to hum usski chumri utar daingay"
Wow, thank you for showing that, we had such a free and responsible media :)
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 11:11 PM that lawyer on viagara, Ahmed Ali Kurd
:D LOL
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM :D LOL
:cool:
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 11:16 PM That's not all. There were really cheap & sick slogans, that were raised by "educated" lawyers, and all that was shown live on Geo, ARY One and Aaj TV. Here, I saw one positive thing about Aaj TV. Whenever the lawyers used to start their slogans (that were as cheap as "Musharraf Kutta"), Aaj TV's anchors used to cover up immediately with their own commentary and muting the sound. So, I have to hear those abuses, I had to switch to Geo because they were showing it uninterrupted.
Although Aaj TV tried to do its responsibility but unfortunately, it also became victim with others.
Arsalan November 16th, 2007, 11:18 PM Last ten minutes of Geo, before it was closed:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9fq14QkwFak
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:18 PM Hamid Khan's speech:
All GEO cared was the top left portion which said "GEO News Exclusive"
Il7DOzhdkkk
I would request you to please view the whole video :)
KB November 16th, 2007, 11:21 PM Unfortunately no.
Postponed to March/April 08.
Damn you Fahad..you gave in.
:ohno:
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 11:21 PM ARY ONE world is repeating the same message again and again. No live news at all.
All it says is "Raina do bakhabar"
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:22 PM Damn you Fahad..you gave in.
:ohno:
My parents werent too happy, and my girlfriend was actually asking me what newspaper she can find my dead photo in incase I dont call :(
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 11:24 PM There are some rumors that GEO will now be broadcasting under different name.
Can some one confirm that?
Red aRRow November 16th, 2007, 11:24 PM that lawyer on viagara, Ahmed Ali Kurd
He even looks like a douchebag.:lol:
thePakMan November 16th, 2007, 11:24 PM My parents werent too happy, and my girlfriend was actually asking me what newspaper she can find my dead photo in incase I dont call :(
Lol
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:25 PM [QUOTE=FahadKhan;16528160]that lawyer on viagara, Ahmed Ali Kurd /QUOTE]
He even looks like a douchebag.:lol:
a1IVqnlITTE
I think he actually knocked out a mic and hit the person's head who was fixing the mic :lol:
KB November 16th, 2007, 11:31 PM Btw, does anyone here has any proof that the Dubai govt told Geo to stop broadcasting from there or is it just a conspiracy being cooked up from someone's ***?
I don't think dubai govt would do that if they want to promote their media city...It could as well be that If they aren't on cable and AAJ is there, nobody would bother buying a dish and they(Geo) wont get any ads.
If they really want to continue, they could do so by shifting to say london/HK,etc and broadcast their stuff on dish..remove the decoding and voilŕ. They might just be cashing on their dying channel.
Media Master November 16th, 2007, 11:46 PM Btw, does anyone here has any proof that the Dubai govt told Geo to stop broadcasting from there or is it just a conspiracy being cooked up from someone's ***?
I don't think dubai govt would do that if they want to promote their media city...It could as well be that If they aren't on cable and AAJ is there, nobody would bother buying a dish and they(Geo) wont get any ads.
If they really want to continue, they could do so by shifting to say london/HK,etc and broadcast their stuff on dish..remove the decoding and voilŕ. They might just be cashing on their dying channel.
kbboy,
Exactly they will go to either Lodon or Singapore. B coz China would not allow them in Hong Kong. What about their landing rights and mind it that they are paying the fees and share from their profits to PEMRA. Now what is the future of their GEO ENGLISH, GEO BACHEY,ISLAMIC CHANNEL which were planned to be launch on BAKRA EID(December end).
They have removed the decoding and GEO ENTERTAINMENT, GEO SUPER & AAG TV are free to air from last week.
But what to do of the dish antenna,the china made receiver of Rs.1700 is selling at 5000 and complete system price is up from actual price of 5000 to Rs. 12000 now.
Import is also restricted by imposing ban.So now what to do in this regard?
It is my question to all of you and specially Mr. Fahad Khan. can u carry a digital receiver for me from toronto?
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:50 PM It is my question to all of you and specially Mr. Fahad Khan. can u carry a digital receiver for me from toronto?
I'm not even coming :dunno:
Red aRRow November 16th, 2007, 11:51 PM [QUOTE=Red aRRow;16528477]
I think he actually knocked out a mic and hit the person's head who was fixing the mic :lol:
Man I can't believe GEO used to show these rejects of society on TV like that. The language this illiterate piece of garbage was using against a sitting head of state is most disturbing. I personally would have shot his ass if I was there. :bash:
FK November 16th, 2007, 11:57 PM Man I can't believe GEO used to show these rejects of society on TV like that. The language this illiterate piece of garbage was using against a sitting head of state is most disturbing. I personally would have shot his ass if I was there. :bash:
Exactly my point, btw I can still see GEO & ARY.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/DSC00060.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/DSC00061-1.jpg
safe_blood November 17th, 2007, 12:30 AM good news, biased channel.
ary is down too but i heard it will be back up after a clean up which ary has told gov.
KB November 17th, 2007, 01:01 AM kbboy,
Exactly they will go to either Lodon or Singapore. B coz China would not allow them in Hong Kong. What about their landing rights and mind it that they are paying the fees and share from their profits to PEMRA. Now what is the future of their GEO ENGLISH, GEO BACHEY,ISLAMIC CHANNEL which were planned to be launch on BAKRA EID(December end).
They have removed the decoding and GEO ENTERTAINMENT, GEO SUPER & AAG TV are free to air from last week.
...
still doesnt answer my question...Is Geo saying Dubai govt asked them to shut down and leave?
thePakMan November 17th, 2007, 01:29 AM MUSHARRAF SHUTS DOWN GEO TV
Updated at 0350 PST
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates_pics/11-16-2007_32385_l.gif
ISLAMABAD (By Muhammad Saleh Zaafir): GEO TV, Pakistan's premier Urdu news channel, also seen round the world as the main source of news and current affairs, was shut down at 1 a.m. Pakistan time (12 midnight Dubai time) after President Pervez Musharraf put tremendous pressure to silence a media outlet which had refused to bow down to his dictates.
Informed sources said President Pervez Musharraf himself intervened to stop all GEO news transmissions from Dubai, after a two-week standoff in Pakistan during which all major news channels were shut down by cable operators, who are directly controlled by the Pakistani authorities.
The shutting down of the Geo News was universally condemned by almost every political party and member of the civil society minutes before the anchors, almost in tears, signed off.
PML-N leader Mian Nawaz Sharif told Dr. Shahid Masood on telephone from London it was a tragic moment in Pakistan's history as the Musharraf regime was bent upon destroying every symbol of free speech and democracy in the country.
Makhdoon Amin Faheem, the PPP Vice Chairman told Geo News, in its dying moments, that it would be a tragedy for the country and democracy if Geo went off the air, which it did minutes later.
Lt. General Talat Masood, Retired Chief Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqi and many others representing the civil society, who used to appear regular in Geo talk shows, expressed shock and disgust at the decision to shut of Geo TV.
Popular news anchors came on Geo News around midnight Pakistan time to announce that their channel had been ordered to go off the air as result of the continued deadlock between the Pakistani authorities and the media channels, following the imposition of the emergency in the country.
In Pakistan all GEO channels were blocked by the military regime after the imposition of the emergency but on Friday two main channels, DAWN News and AAJ were back on air, with AAJ announcing that two its most popular talks shows, hosted by Talat Hussain, Nusrat Javeed and Mushtaq Mihas, were suspended temporarily.
Geo News was shut down because it had refused to budge. After six years of objective and highly professional telecasts, which earned the channel the honour of being the most popular TV channel, the Government of Pakistan put it off the air on Nov 4 after emergency was imposed.
Geo News was under pressure from day one. The government tried to bring it down but the channel became a household name in Pakistan and abroad and was declared by the international observers as the most watched and popular TV channel.
Its role in the judicial crisis, which started on March 9, when the President filed a reference against the Chief Justice, was highly applauded, domestically and internationally.
Geo kept the whole world informed about the developments regarding the events unfolding during the struggle of people of Pakistan for restoration of dignity of the judiciary through its objective reporting by giving all points of view. The programmes, talks shows and commentaries produced by Geo created an impact and awareness among the people.
Sources said the government first asked the Geo administration to stop the most popular programmes of popular TV hosts Dr. Shahid Masood, Hamid Mir and Kamran Khan without offering any tangible reason why they should be stopped.
After the success of the Chief Justice campaign all private news channels were banned from telecasting live programmes and filming outside the studios.
The media workers protested against the move and the government had to accept the demands of the media workers. The shows were allowed to continue but live coverage was banned.
In the meanwhile General Pervez Musharraf kept on resorting to pressure tactics and the Geo channels revenue sources were targeted.
Under his orders all government advertisements were not only stopped but other commercial advertisers were also pressurized not to give business to Geo. The channel withstood all the pressures and suffered huge losses. A statement submitted in the Sindh High Court on Friday said almost Rs1 billion was lost by the channel.
After the emergency General Musharraf banned Geo and other channels inside Pakistan. Geo stood the pressure and refused to sign on the dotted line.
The sources pointed out that the government under General Pervez Musharraf enhanced its pressure on the media to regulate itself under the command of the administration after the clamping of emergency.
The media was strangulated through an ordinance that placed restrictions on its freedom that had no precedent. It was virtually made impossible to carry on free journalism in the country in the presence of the said ordinance.
A so-called code of conduct was thrust upon the media to follow without any consultations with the journalist community. Private channels were asked to sign an undertaking that would have made the channels subservient to the authorities.
This was done after suspending all private channels of the country and the channel administrations were asked to accept the conditions and sign the document of undertaking.
They were told to accept provisional licences instead of the permanent ones they had. The earlier licences were cancelled through the same order.
The sources said that General Pervez Musharraf asked the channels to stop their current affairs programmes, which were not acceptable to him and demanded that anchorpersons should be fired.
The channels who signed the document were restored on the cable. Some channels accepted the official advice while others refused to follow.
Geo declined to oblige General Pervez Musharraf as the demands included cooperation on all points which the new caretaker government would bring up.
It was demanded that Geo should stop the objectionable current affairs programmes and toe the official line.
The authorities wanted that the channel should cooperate with President General Pervez Musharraf.
The channel was further asked to submit all its programmes for monitoring by government officials, as no programme without clearance would be aired.
The sources said that Geo was first forbidden in Pakistan through cable not brought under pressure through the authorities concerned of the country from where it was being aired.
The channel was being seen at some places in the country through dish antennas and Internet but the government's technical experts first tried to stop it on the Internet and then a ban was placed on the import of dish antenna and relevant equipment used for receiving direct satellite signals.
The authorities in the host country had to ask the Geo News to stop its telecast from their up-linking station under excruciating pressure coming from the Government of Pakistan without considering its long-term adverse impact on the image of the host country.
The authorities concerned while conveying the message of the Pakistan Government to close down the channel, ridiculed the decision as they had no experience of facing such a demand which was contrary to all norms of decency and business in the modern time business culture, the sources revealed.
Geo's voice was silenced by General Pervez Musharraf as its anchors, almost in tears, bid farewell to its viewers and listeners.
thePakMan November 17th, 2007, 01:32 AM still doesnt answer my question...Is Geo saying Dubai govt asked them to shut down and leave?
Yes according to Jang news Musharaf himself intervened to stop all news transmissions from Dubai.
safe_blood November 17th, 2007, 02:52 AM ^^
who ever did it, did a great job.
transistorized November 17th, 2007, 03:00 AM This doesnt make any sense. There is no way that UAE will jeopardize its media city just to please Musharraf. Something else is going on here.
oogabooga November 17th, 2007, 04:44 AM This doesnt make any sense. There is no way that UAE will jeopardize its media city just to please Musharraf. Something else is going on here.
Tranny has spoken!
All hale tranny!
FK November 17th, 2007, 05:19 AM Tranny has spoken!
All hale tranny!
Hale?
PurePaki November 17th, 2007, 05:37 AM come on people Mush is raping our constitution
freedom of speech is in our constitution
is he above the law?
no matter how bias or anti government they are government doesn't have the right to shut them down
and one more thing don't you people understand now there will be more corruption and there are more chances of Pakistan see another dictator
spyk November 17th, 2007, 05:51 AM come on people Mush is raping our constitution
freedom of speech is in our constitution
is he above the law?
no matter how bias or anti government they are government doesn't have the right to shut them down
and one more thing don't you people understand now there will be more corruption and there are more chances of Pakistan see another dictator
yea? the constituition has been there since 1973. who gave them this right? musharraf gave them. and look what they did. they went way overboard
this is a good news for the nation, as there won't be a mass GEO propoganda depression syndrome anymore
thePakMan November 17th, 2007, 05:53 AM Thanks PurePaki for your concern.
No one is above law. How can some one break the constitution?
What we have learn in last sixty years.
Those nations which don’t learn lesson from past will cease to exist.
transistorized November 17th, 2007, 06:02 AM come on people Mush is raping our constitution
freedom of speech is in our constitution
is he above the law?
no matter how bias or anti government they are government doesn't have the right to shut them down
and one more thing don't you people understand now there will be more corruption and there are more chances of Pakistan see another dictator
Refresher:
Article 19 of Pakistan's Constitution entitled: Freedom of speech etc ( yes it actually says freedom of speech etc)
""""Every citizen shall have the right to freedom of speech and expression, and there shall be freedom of the press, subject to any reasonable restrictions imposed by law in the interest of the glory of Islam or the integrity, security or defence of Pakistan or any part thereof, friendly relations with foreign States, public order, decency or morality, or in relation to contempt of court,[15][commission of] or incitement to an offence."""""
Edit: btw I dont support shutting down a complete tv network, but those people who were actually portraying taleban fanatics on TV in postive light should be dragged out of their offices and shot. They deserve no less. (I dont follow pakistani media so dont know if Geo anchors are guilty or not).
Sania November 17th, 2007, 06:09 AM come on people Mush is raping our constitution
freedom of speech is in our constitution
is he above the law?
no matter how bias or anti government they are government doesn't have the right to shut them down
and one more thing don't you people understand now there will be more corruption and there are more chances of Pakistan see another dictator
I 100% agree with u.Today i am very sad.I am in shocked when i heard this news.I strongly condemns this step of mushraff.Geo was a symbol of truth.
Long live GEO.................God bless you.....................
FK November 17th, 2007, 06:12 AM :hahano:
transistorized November 17th, 2007, 06:17 AM Tranny has spoken!
All hale tranny!
seriously though, there is no way UAE would do that for Mushi without some serious arm-twisting. Saudi Arabia or China maybe, but definitely not UAE. My guess is Americans are involved in all of this. They are the only ones with sufficient clout to force UAE into taking such a drastic step.
spyk November 17th, 2007, 06:35 AM I 100% agree with u.Today i am very sad.I am in shocked when i heard this news.I strongly condemns this step of mushraff.Geo was a symbol of truth.
Long live GEO.................God bless you.....................
more like a symbol of depression, darkness and biased anti-mush propaganda
spyk November 17th, 2007, 06:48 AM seriously though, there is no way UAE would do that for Mushi without some serious arm-twisting. Saudi Arabia or China maybe, but definitely not UAE. My guess is Americans are involved in all of this. They are the only ones with sufficient clout to force UAE into taking such a drastic step.
mubarak to all my dear countrymen :tyty:
now we will live in peace without the most viewed channel spreading doomsday theories, in a STABLE pakistan that is progressing without such cynical and negative so called "journalism" :nocrook:
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 07:30 AM Just three days before, Pakistan has given approval to set a $5 billion oil refinery. Some 2000 acres of the land is given to the UAE for this purpose and the name of that place will be Khalifa City (on the name of UAE king). There is also 20 years of tax holiday for that.
Can we relate shutting down of Geo through UAE government and these news?
FK November 17th, 2007, 07:56 AM so what if he gave them the right now every thing is fucked up in the country
wat do you want me call musharraf a saint:bash:
even if he was following the constitution (for some time( that doesn't mean now he has a right to rape it
how old are you buddy
Yeah good one, did you happen to put a foul language tape on at night? If you cant be civilized then dont even bother posting.
Which reminds me, you've been infractioned.
FK November 17th, 2007, 07:59 AM And back to the topic, forget the Balochistan issue and keep it out of this thread please.
oogabooga November 17th, 2007, 09:35 AM Thenews.com.pk has this little snippet about GEO's closure and they are asking for feedback. My cousin designed the page and he told me to leave some feedback. So i was the first to leave feedback. Much to his surprise, my stance on the situation turned out to be quite the contrary to his, considering the fact that he is an employee of Jang and is naturally, pro-Jang/GEO.
Following is the feedback I left on the website
Irresponsible journalism, sensationalism and partisanship, these were the reasons for GEO's meteoric rise and these have became the reasons for its catastrophic demise.
In a country like Pakistan where illiteracy and extremism are rampant, the media can work for the betterment of society by removing misconceptions and eradicating the culture of rumours and misinformation. Quite the travesty then, that high-profile and much revered figures who were in a position of great responsibility and power used it to their personal agendas of partisanship and politics.
Hamid Mir, Shahid Masood and Ansar Abbasi now have to live with the guilt of rendering thousands of innocent employees, jobless. What lies ahead in the future for thousands of families associated to this, now defunct channel, is anyones guess.
My prayers and heartfelt sorrow go out for the employees of GEO.
God bless........
Ofcourse it is pending the Moderators approval, who my cousin tells me is a 70 yearold man in the winter of his life with little purpose left! :gaah:
KB November 17th, 2007, 11:28 AM Yes according to Jang news Musharaf himself intervened to stop all news transmissions from Dubai.
That's as vague as it gets and doesn't answer my question.... Are they saying the Dubai govt has told them to to pack up? and any proof of that?
Dallas1 November 17th, 2007, 01:19 PM Dubai agrees to pull plug on Pakistani TV networks
Story Highlights
NEW: GEO-TV president: "It seemed very that obvious they were going to do this"
Order comes on the request of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf
GEO-TV and ARY Digital offer varied programming, including news
Both networks transmit from the United Arab Emirates
LAHORE, Pakistan (CNN) -- Two Pakistani television networks that transmit from Dubai in United Arab Emirates were ordered off the air Friday at the request of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, officials from the networks said.
GEO-TV and ARY Digital offer a variety of programming, including news, entertainment, sports and music.
Both networks had been banned from Pakistan's cable television system -- along with other networks, including CNN and BBC -- since Musharraf declared a state of emergency on November 3.
This latest action prevents the two Pakistani networks from broadcasting worldwide via satellite.
"This was basically our window to the world, GEO President Imran Aslan said. "In Pakistan, we've been shut down since the 3rd."
The action was not wholly unexpected, but surprising nevertheless, Aslan said.
"We uplink from Dubai, never having had a license to uplink from Pakistan," he said. "Dubai is a media city which seemed to be a haven and a sanctuary."
Aslan said network officials have been in discussions with Pakistani government officials and "it seemed very obvious that they were going to do this. We were ready for it to a certain extent."
"Eventually they decided to put their feet on the pipe, as it were."
The government has made numerous demands of the network, although none of them official, Aslan said.
"It's done through intermediaries," he said. "[Dulling] down the content, not having certain anchors, some of the hosts of our programs and talk shows."
Musharraf's emergency order put several restrictions on the media, preventing journalists from expressing opinions prejudicial to "the ideology ... or integrity of Pakistan."
Journalists are also restricted from covering suicide bombings and militant activity and could face three-year jail terms if they "ridicule" members of the government or armed forces.
Almost a dozen journalists have been arrested.
Musharraf has denied that his restrictions bar criticism, saying they only ask for responsibility in reporting.
But last week, Pakistan expelled three print journalists for using language in an editorial that a Pakistani official called offensive to Musharraf.
The editorial criticized Musharraf, and the United States and Britain for continuing to support him.
While many Pakistani journalists have protested the restrictions, some smaller television channels have complied with the government's restrictions.
GEO and ARY have refused.
"It seems most of the other channels have kowtowed in order to survive," Aslan said.
Musharraf has said the emergency order improves stability and will foster peaceful parliamentary elections, which he has said he would like to see take place before January 9.
The exact date will be set by Pakistan's Election Commission.
Opposition leaders have accused Musharraf of declaring emergency rule to keep his hold on power and avoid an expected court ruling that would have nullified his election victory in October.
All AboutPervez Musharraf
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/16/pakistan.tv/index.html
Sikandar November 17th, 2007, 02:40 PM DawnNews didn't sign the Code of Conduct, yet they were allowed to resume broadcasting. Why? Because they are a responsible and professional news channel, unlike GEO or ARY. If this lawyer on Viagara, Ahmed Ali Kurd, was even allowed to be shown on Dawn, it would have been during a talk show and it would have been made fun of.
safe_blood November 17th, 2007, 03:13 PM is there any link to watch aaj tv, the bollywood link is not working
safe_blood November 17th, 2007, 03:13 PM DawnNews didn't sign the Code of Conduct, yet they were allowed to resume broadcasting. Why? Because they are a responsible and professional news channel, unlike GEO or ARY. If this lawyer on Viagara, Ahmed Ali Kurd, was even allowed to be shown on Dawn, it would have been during a talk show and it would have been made fun of.
all channels back on air have signed the CoC
Sikandar November 17th, 2007, 03:15 PM all channels back on air have signed the CoC
"A top executive at Dawn News denied his channel had signed a new code of conduct handed down by the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (PEMRA) following the imposition of Emergency, but said it had given an assurance to abide by a previous Pakistan Broadcasters’ Association.
He said the government had accepted the Dawn position because of its “balanced” coverage."
http://www.hindu.com/2007/11/16/stories/2007111655861800.htm
Sikandar November 17th, 2007, 03:21 PM Actually Dawn is reporting right now on GEO and ARY being shut down, and showing public reaction AGAINST shutting these channels down. They interviewed one woman who said "I only watched GEO, and now I don't watch TV anymore."
Dawn > *
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 03:22 PM Geo News is back on this frequency of Panamsat.
Frequency: 4154 Mhz
Symbol Rate: 4400
Polarity: Horizontal
Currently showing last night's transmission
FK November 17th, 2007, 03:32 PM Actually Dawn is reporting right now on GEO and ARY being shut down, and showing public reaction AGAINST shutting these channels down. They interviewed one woman who said "I only watched GEO, and now I don't watch TV anymore."
Dawn > *
So that woman doesnt watch those soaps on the other channels?
What a load of bull! Emotional blackmail at its best.
FK November 17th, 2007, 03:33 PM Thenews.com.pk has this little snippet about GEO's closure and they are asking for feedback. My cousin designed the page and he told me to leave some feedback. So i was the first to leave feedback. Much to his surprise, my stance on the situation turned out to be quite the contrary to his, considering the fact that he is an employee of Jang and is naturally, pro-Jang/GEO.
Following is the feedback I left on the website
Ofcourse it is pending the Moderators approval, who my cousin tells me is a 70 yearold man in the winter of his life with little purpose left! :gaah:
I dont see it come up on the first page :tongue3:
KB November 17th, 2007, 03:42 PM I hope they(Geo) act more responsibly and stop doing biased propaganda.
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 04:14 PM The news ticker on that frequency reads that if you are interested in Geo News, you can tune to this frequency for latest news. The ticker is showing today's news now.
spyk November 17th, 2007, 04:17 PM please go to www.thenews.com.pk
and leave a msg for GEO
they must be getting so many love mails, someone needs to them where they went wrong
and tell them they were were sensationalist, causing severe depression to naive pakistans, and were not just "showing the truth"
far from it, so much political uncertainty was being created by them in a very sensitive time for the country, that they were very anti-musharraf and were not at all "all sides of the arguments" and were misusing freedom of speech and behaving very irresponsibly
moved_on November 17th, 2007, 04:17 PM Geo sensational or not, mushy now has gone too far, so much of banging Free Media slogan all the time.
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 04:28 PM What's the future of Pakistan's only satellite Paksat now? When the government can ask another country to ban a channel, it can easily do the same with its own Paksat. Apart from many new entrants, big names like ARY, Geo, Indus and Aaj TV have their channels and news feeds on Paksat. I'm sure that all of them must be thinking of shifting from there.
Dallas1 November 17th, 2007, 04:40 PM I hope they(Geo) act more responsibly and stop doing biased propaganda.
If Geo is biased don’t tell me PTV is balanced, Gov can use PTV and compete with Geo/ARY, they (PTV) have all the funds available infact they collect their funds forcefully (on power bill)
adzees November 17th, 2007, 05:17 PM watch live
geo tv
http://www.idesitv.com/geotv.php
geo
http://www.idesitv.com/aaj.php
thePakMan November 17th, 2007, 06:16 PM Thanks for the link
FK November 17th, 2007, 06:23 PM If Geo is biased don’t tell me PTV is balanced, Gov can use PTV and compete with Geo/ARY, they (PTV) have all the funds available infact they collect their funds forcefully (on power bill)
PTV is State owned, GEO was private.
pakboy November 17th, 2007, 06:33 PM PTV does not realy defame the oppersition either.
Dallas1 November 17th, 2007, 06:34 PM ^ So……. they (PTV) are entitled to be biased? we as tax payers can hold Ptv responsible, not GEO/ARY
KB November 17th, 2007, 06:43 PM If Geo is biased don’t tell me PTV is balanced, Gov can use PTV and compete with Geo/ARY, they (PTV) have all the funds available infact they collect their funds forcefully (on power bill)
I am hoping for the channels to work together for a better future not a govt vs geo contest.
I like geo (and other channels) because PTV is too puppet but being anti govt. doesnt mean being anti Pakistan as well. What Geo was doing was adding fuel to start a chaotic fire and thats what I am against. I don't mind them criticizing govt policies but i do mind them spreading hatred.
They were sensationalizing news and creating hatred between people and army and indirectly promoting an environment where militants starts looking good and the army bad...and that's not an offense to be tolerated.
The way they were reporting sounded that the militants were innocent people and the army was carrying out some brutal agenda of killing Pakistanis. If you're siding with an enemy, you are also considered an enemy and hence the decision to ban them. Its not like AAJ and Dawn news have converted to PTV after signing the CoC. Geo had an irresponsible ego problem.
If not for that, i would equally be on Geo's side.
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 06:43 PM That is what I'm getting now at that Geo News frequency:
http://i3.tinypic.com/85ery0z.jpg
I means, Geo News is now being broadcasted from UK. They may resume soon after their anchors shift to UK.
dopekhor November 17th, 2007, 06:48 PM looks like also the same in pak, the media goes over board with their new found slogan freedom of speech, over here in bd a few months back this news channel highlighted a small incident to such a point that an curfew had to be declared and that had been shut down,
i have seen geo news their interpretation of facts seemed like pak was in a warzone and it's all the governments fault every word they uttered was anti govt
which will give the hint of serving a vested quarters interest to any audience who is watching the channel for the first time or is unaware of the pakistan situation
pakboy November 17th, 2007, 06:49 PM whats the point geo is just asking for more trouble and then they ask why their banned, if they move to uk then im sure we will never see them ever again in pakistan.
thePakMan November 17th, 2007, 07:14 PM Dubai considering resuming telecast of recently shut channels
Updated at 1905 PST
DUBAI: Media authorities in Dubai said Saturday they were considering whether to allow two leading private Pakistani news channels to resume broadcasting after shutting them down the day before.
"We are in contact with them to see if there is a possibility to (allow them to) resume" broadcasting, Amina Rustamani, head of Dubai's media watchdog was quoted as saying.
The two networks, Geo and ARYOne, said on Saturday that they were shut down the night before amid pressure from Pakistan military ruler Pervez Musharraf.
Geo and ARYOne had been blacked out on cable in Pakistan since November 3, when Musharraf imposed a state of emergency, but had still been available on satellite and the Internet until Friday night when they were fully closed.
Both channels said the Islamabad government had been pushing them to stop showing their political talkshows.
Rustamani said the channels had long been operating out of Dubai Media City, a free zone where scores of regional and international news organizations are based.
She said it was necessary to explain to the two channels the policy of the United Arab Emirates, of which Dubai is part, and guidelines applying to media operating out of the free zone, but she declined to go into details of the criteria they would have to abide by in order to resume broadcasting.
She said it was necessary to explain to the two channels the policy of the United Arab Emirates, of which Dubai is part, and guidelines applying to media operating out of the free zone.
But Rustamani, executive director of media at Dubai Media City, declined to go into details of the criteria they would have to abide by in order to resume broadcasting.
The director of the National Media Council which overseas all media in the UAE, Ibrahim al-Abed, said the oil-rich Gulf country pursues a policy of "moderation, neutrality and non-interference in others' affairs."
In keeping with these principles, the UAE is "keen on maintaining total and objective neutrality toward the political events unfolding in Pakistan," Abed was quoted as saying by a local news agency.
"The closure of the two television channels is compatible with the UAE's foreign policy," he added.
Rustamani was quoted by the news agency as also saying that Dubai Media City cannot allow media it hosts to put out material that flouts UAE policies.
Dubai Media City is "keen on safeguarding cooperation with the two channels, and its administration is currently discussing with those in charge of the channels the content of their news programmes," she said, expressing confidence that a settlement can be reached.
Asked if the shutdown might scare off other foreign news organisations whose presence in Dubai has turned the emirate into a regional media hub, Rustamani was quoted as saying: "There are (press) laws in any country."
thePakMan November 17th, 2007, 07:15 PM Protest demo against closure of Geo and other channels in Karachi
Updated at 2125 PST
KARACHI: Workers of GEO TV channels and other local journalists organized a protest demo in front of the GEO TV office here on Saturday and demanded to restore all banned TV news channels.
They strongly protested closure of GEO TV and termed it a black chapter of history of media freedom.
On this occasion, the journalist organizations tried to take out the rally to Karachi Press Club; however, the police and Rangers barricaded the roads and large number of policemen was deployed there. Police hindered the demonstrators to proceed to KPC.
So, the people dispersed on the bidding of journalist organizations and started to gather in front of Geo News office at II Chundrigar Road.
The people gathered there and expressed solidarity with Geo News employees. On this occasion, they raised slogans against the TV channels closure and demanded the government to lift ban from these channels.
Former Minister of State for Religious Affairs Dr. Amir Liaquat Hussain on the occasion offered a Dua (prayer). He prayed Allah, the Almighty, to save the country from all dangers. He regretted the curbs on media and demanded restoration of all TV news channels.
President Karachi Press Club Sabihuddin Ghousi, senior journalist Azhar Abbass and others were also present.
A 'solidarity camp' was also set-up outside the GEO-TV office, where journalists placed hundreds of bouquets and wrote their sentiments on the two big boards against the curbs on media.
A heavy deployment of police was ensured there; however, no untoward incident took place.
Meanwhile, Pakistan Federal Union of Journalists held a protest demonstration in front of the Karachi Press Club (KPC) against closure of TV news channels. The demo was participated by a large number of working journalists of Karachi.
Javed Saba President Association of TV Journalists (ATJ) criticized the recent curbs on media and demanded of the government to restore all news TV channels, immediately.
thePakMan November 17th, 2007, 07:15 PM Pak news channels respected business partners: DMC
Updated at 2200 PST
ISLAMABAD: Dubai Media City has said that Pakistani news channels are respected business partners in Dubai Media City for several years and relationship with them has been strong and friendly.
''We are in discussion with them with regards to the broadcast of their news components and we are confident we will resolve this matter in the best way possible to protect their interests and those of the UAE,” Dubai Media City said here Saturday in a statement issued by the UAE embassy in Islamabad.
It said, “As an entity within the UAE, Dubai Media City would also observe the broad principles of the country's foreign policy and prevent the broadcast of news and material that would undermine those principles.”
Meanwhile, the United Arab Emirates Government in a statement said that it always played a positive and constructive role in international affairs, and neutrality has been a key principle of its foreign policy.
It said, ''As such the UAE has always been an advocate of international law and an active contributor to peace and stability in the region. In light of the current sensitive state of affairs in Pakistan, the UAE can only assume its responsibility and maintain its neutrality''.
KB November 17th, 2007, 07:35 PM WTF??
Talk of sensationalization, Geo news is showing little kids saying " Uncle Musharraf, Geo channel khol dain", and parents saying that now that Geo channel is off, they have a difficult time controlling their kids. Children would refuse to eat food because they can't watch Geo News.
Seriously, WTF???
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 07:59 PM ^^
Yesterday during the last moments of Geo News, several politicians & analysts were asked for comments. From common people, only one female viewer from Lahore was given chance. Why? Because Geo knew she would cry on phone and saying "Aaj mujhe aisa lagraha hai kay mere baazo cut gaye hain, meri taangein kat gayi hain aur mein andhi hogayi hoon. My children are so used-to to your jingle. What will they do now?"
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 08:01 PM Dubai: GEO TV, Pakistan's top news channel operating from here and which was shut down early today due to "pressure" from the military regime, is holding talks with authorities to restart its broadcasting.
"The channel is talking to the Dubai authorities as well as back in Pakistan for restarting the programmes," said Shahid Masood, Group Executive Director of Dubai-based GEO TV told PTI. Earlier the channel refused to sign a government code of conduct under the emergency rule.
Hoping that the channel will be back in operation soon, Masood said: "our other entertainment and sports channels have been allowed to operate but on the condition that we do not show any news or current affairs programmes on these channels."
When asked whether they were looking at alternative avenues for broadcasting its news programmes, Masood said "all options are available".
The channel, along with ARY channel, was told by the local authorities that they will not be able to beam programmes from midnight UAE time (Friday). Officials of both the channels said the Pakistan government had influenced authorities in the UAE to shut down their broadcasts from the Dubai Media City.
Masood said apart from the news channel, GEO Super which had won the India-Pakistan cricket series broadcasting rights is also not seen. "People in Pakistan are unable to watch the matches because of this action."
There are 200 people working for the channel in Dubai and it was work as usual for them, said Masood, adding that all of them were dejected after the channel stopped working.
FK November 17th, 2007, 08:12 PM ^ So……. they (PTV) are entitled to be biased? we as tax payers can hold Ptv responsible, not GEO/ARY
You as Pakistanis should and can hold any private channel responsible, thats a really weak comment that you laid out.
So its only state that you should hold responsible?
Grow up.
FK November 17th, 2007, 08:15 PM Dubai: GEO TV, Pakistan's top news channel operating from here and which was shut down early today due to "pressure" from the military regime, is holding talks with authorities to restart its broadcasting.
"The channel is talking to the Dubai authorities as well as back in Pakistan for restarting the programmes," said Shahid Masood, Group Executive Director of Dubai-based GEO TV told PTI. Earlier the channel refused to sign a government code of conduct under the emergency rule.
Hoping that the channel will be back in operation soon, Masood said: "our other entertainment and sports channels have been allowed to operate but on the condition that we do not show any news or current affairs programmes on these channels."
When asked whether they were looking at alternative avenues for broadcasting its news programmes, Masood said "all options are available".
The channel, along with ARY channel, was told by the local authorities that they will not be able to beam programmes from midnight UAE time (Friday). Officials of both the channels said the Pakistan government had influenced authorities in the UAE to shut down their broadcasts from the Dubai Media City.
Masood said apart from the news channel, GEO Super which had won the India-Pakistan cricket series broadcasting rights is also not seen. "People in Pakistan are unable to watch the matches because of this action."
There are 200 people working for the channel in Dubai and it was work as usual for them, said Masood, adding that all of them were dejected after the channel stopped working.
To be honest, fire Shahid Masood and Geo might be allowed back on air.
I dont even know what that MBBS Doctor is doing working as a "Group Executive Director".
pakboy November 17th, 2007, 08:28 PM the dawn website telecast is a piece of .....................
it works for 10 secs and then takes a 1 minute break.
Arsalan November 17th, 2007, 08:35 PM You as Pakistanis should and can hold any private channel responsible, thats a really weak comment that you laid out.
So its only state that you should hold responsible?
Grow up.
But we are not paying anything to watch these private channels. On the other hands, PTV is forcefully minting from us. So, PTV deserves our criticism more because we are paying to watch that channel :)
FK November 17th, 2007, 09:02 PM But we are not paying anything to watch these private channels. On the other hands, PTV is forcefully minting from us. So, PTV deserves our criticism more because we are paying to watch that channel :)
Whether your paying or not, private channels are Pakistani-owned and cannot be deprived of criticism.
Although yes, I don't support the TV license way myself.
KB November 17th, 2007, 09:12 PM TV licenses are all over the world.
transistorized November 17th, 2007, 09:13 PM I know Shahd Masood is a douchebag, but what about Hamid Mir? I have read some of his interviews and even saw him on CNN a couple of times, in all of them he defended military action in FATA and spoke out very strongly against al-Qaeeda and taleban? But what about his own program? How is he there usually?
I actually once read his inteview about how he got to interview Bin laden right in the middle of American invasion, and it was one hell of a read. I really developed a lot of respect for him from that. The man has balls the size of coconut. here is that interview http://web.archive.org/web/20030211004706/http://www.maldivesculture.com/maldives_osama_bin_laden.html)
Sikandar November 17th, 2007, 09:48 PM GEO wouldn't know professionalism if it slapped them in the face. They were disliked by the government and some of the educated/elite of Pakistan for being sensationalist, and what are they doing now? What they're good at, of course.. being sensationalist. Showing little kids and old women crying for GEO, or an animation of their GEO logo being tossed around in a sea, with "please inform them" written on the screen. Not to mention taking up 25% of the screen with a constant reminder of something everyone knows. If they just acted professionally they would've still been on air, and can still come back on soon if they get themselves together.
FK November 17th, 2007, 10:08 PM GEO wouldn't know professionalism if it slapped them in the face. They were disliked by the government and some of the educated/elite of Pakistan for being sensationalist, and what are they doing now? What they're good at, of course.. being sensationalist. Showing little kids and old women crying for GEO, or an animation of their GEO logo being tossed around in a sea, with "please inform them" written on the screen. Not to mention taking up 25% of the screen with a constant reminder of something everyone knows. If they just acted professionally they would've still been on air, and can still come back on soon if they get themselves together.
I guess this is the right time to play their "Lab pay aati hai dua" that they've been playing since the 3rd of Nov. :lol:
FK November 17th, 2007, 10:52 PM The new slogan on the streets are "Geo aab bait kar Sio"
Hope you understand what it means.
oogabooga November 17th, 2007, 11:02 PM The new slogan on the streets are "Geo aab bait kar Sio"
Hope you understand what it means.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
kyunke geo ke phat gayee!
KB November 17th, 2007, 11:10 PM LMAO
Red aRRow November 17th, 2007, 11:30 PM :lol: :lol: :lol:
* Ooga baby you never replied to my PM. .....bitch.
pakboy November 18th, 2007, 12:23 AM geo was not bad, they set standards for pakistani television.
it was only shahid masood, the day he joined there news became one sided,
hamid mir and kamran khan are quite balanced on their views.
doenumberpakistani November 18th, 2007, 12:57 AM Its more like they follow whatever is the trend, and not invent something of their own.
Btw have you guys wondered how our media can really play a positive role in curbing corruption?
Our media is very strong, remember that "Tehelka" series that emerged years back, hidden cameras and corrupt leaders!
alas it did not last long
oogabooga November 18th, 2007, 04:35 AM :lol: :lol: :lol:
* Ooga baby you never replied to my PM. .....bitch.
I didnt? Coulda swore I did! :?
pakboy November 18th, 2007, 05:01 AM interesting article
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Where's the news?
Nadeem F Paracha October 16, 2007
Tags: media , TV , news , lawyer movement , protests , Chief Justice , Musharraf , Pakistan
Saturday, October 7, 2007: I am watching Imran Khan in a talk show on TV. He is looking sullen, tired and not quite in his element in spite of the fact that he is on a channel that has given him the most exposure in the last couple of years. He looks disappointed and perhaps, even betrayed. He indirectlybemoans the way most of his new-found comrades in the All Parties Democratic Movement (APDM) have been lethargic and untrustworthy, especially in the face of General Musharraf's two judicial "victories" and then, of course, the way he swept the presidential elections.
What's more, Imran sat there slipping into further brooding, as the news of the fizzling out of APDM's strike call that day started making its way through the equally disappointed-looking talk-show host's lips. The most interesting thing in this respect is the way Imran behaves. Not as a hardened politician, but as an easily excitable modern Pakistani anchorman. In other words, a man (or a woman) of limited knowledge and experience in realpolitik, but one who gets carried away by his own hype. After all, Imran remains the electronic media's most obvious construct.
The same Saturday, I also watched a group of lawyers informally chat with a couple of TV talk-show hosts from various news channels at the Karachi Press Club. Interestingly though, both the parties looked bemused and somewhat surprised as they saw in front of them (on a TV set), Musharraf gliding towards victory and no sign of "the hundreds and thousands of lawyers, traders and common people" that were being predicted to come pouring out into the streets in protest.
I found all the bemusement rather strange. Because isn't it obvious that this "lawyers movement" is turning out to be an illusionary (and at times somewhat deluded), construct? Let me put it this way: What would be the result if one were to minus the role of the electronic media and the way it has covered this "movement"? It would surely have been an event, but the sort that is in the news one day, and out the next.
Thus, it seems even more far-fetched on the part of the many TV anchormen and the lawyers when they actually start equating this "movement" with the one led by left-wing student groups and the Pakistan People's Party (PPP) in the late 1960s against the Ayub dictatorship, or with the 1976 Pakistan National Alliance (PNA) movement led by Asghar Khan and the Jamaat-i-Islami against the Z A Bhutto regime.
Those were genuine movements participated wholeheartedly by large sections of the civil society. But where exactly are these important sections in this "movement" I ask, even though the bulk of TV anchormen and talk-show hosts across the many channels will have you believe that some sort of a democratic revolution is afoot in this Land of the Pure.
Of course, cynically speaking, airing such sentiments by the channels and their analytical commentaries are good for ratings, but something a lot more striking can also happen. And it has. As is apparent with the apathetically and lukewarm manner the majority of Pakistanis have responded to the strike calls given by the opposition parties and the lawyers, it seems the so-called democratic revolution is unfolding only on our TV screens!
Isn't it now evident that the general political and civil support that the Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) got was like a one-off outpouring, and of whose victorious judicial conclusion was satisfying enough for most participants to return to their more mundane, day-to-day activities? But one should also remember, for the news channels it made great television, and good television means more viewer ship which in turn guarantees bigger advertising revenues.
Again, on a cynical level, this makes obvious business sense. However, what all the obsessive, no-holds-barred and somewhat wild 24/7 coverage of matters like the CJP's ouster and comeback, the so-called "lawyers movement" and the Lal Masjid disaster also did was to surrealistically turn news channels into new entertainment avenues!
In other words, at the moment it is the local news channels which are posing the purely entertainment channels the biggest challenge. So much so that some "mixed channels" which deal in both entertainment and news programs are now investing and allocating more money, resources and time to news shows rather than on entertainment programming.
This not only suggests that news shows and coverage are bagging the biggest audiences, but also that this is exactly why many of these news shows and wall-to-wall coverage of political events are being liberally punctuated with highly animated and exaggerated theatrics and language fit for an over-the-top soap opera. And this is how they are being seen by the larger sections of the audience as well; as a soap opera – a fascinating, loud drama of sorts whose script is being written by anchormen, hosts and their favourite political guests.
But what happens when the soap opera starts to lose steam? What happens to all the "stars" it had shaped and created, as in this case the lawyers, the anchormen, the talk-show hosts and a few repetitive opposition politicians? The answer to this can be found in the news channels' latest coverage of the "ongoing lawyers' movement". It was rather odd watching journalists and the lawyers battling it out with raving and drooling cops outside the Supreme Court in Islamabad. I mean, where were the masses?
Thus, was it a case of desperation, to make dramatic news when none was available in the shape of action and participation of the common people?
Of course, millions across the country saw the bloody drama unfold outside the Supreme Court and on Constitution Avenue, but only a handful were ready to come out in the street to protest this "state brutality" against the media and the lawyers.
If logic be allowed to prevail instead of desperate game play, the conclusion to this is simple: The so-called masses have started treating news channels and their stars like they would any entertainer. It is also apparent that many feel that the lawyers and the electronic media have started to seem rather irrational and dangerously desperate.
As the so-called "movement against Musharraf" and the unfolding "democratic revolution" start seeming like a shrinking reality no bigger than a 26-inch TV screen, the soap opera that it has become across various news channels now seems to be devolving into a vigilante thriller, such is its tone. It seems it has now all come down to the volatile sentiment of pure and simple revenge. This is what happens when a revolution is televised live. It first makes marketable caricatures out of the revolutionaries and then eventually turns them into Sultan Rahees!
Very entertaining, indeed, but where's the news?
This article was first published in Dawn Images on 13 Oct. 2007
Intoxication November 18th, 2007, 08:29 AM WTF??
Talk of sensationalization, Geo news is showing little kids saying " Uncle Musharraf, Geo channel khol dain", and parents saying that now that Geo channel is off, they have a difficult time controlling their kids. Children would refuse to eat food because they can't watch Geo News.
Seriously, WTF???
^^
Yesterday during the last moments of Geo News, several politicians & analysts were asked for comments. From common people, only one female viewer from Lahore was given chance. Why? Because Geo knew she would cry on phone and saying "Aaj mujhe aisa lagraha hai kay mere baazo cut gaye hain, meri taangein kat gayi hain aur mein andhi hogayi hoon. My children are so used-to to your jingle. What will they do now?"
These people should be told that there is more to life than watching a TV channel. Anyways I have never seen kids take interest in news channels.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
* Ooga baby you never replied to my PM. .....bitch.
Ummm....
Arsalan November 18th, 2007, 12:02 PM Dubai, Nov 18 - The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has stated that the country's neutral foreign policy and its 'positive and constructive role' in international affairs were the reasons for taking off the air the two Dubai-based Pakistani news channels, Geo News and ARY TV.
'The UAE has been an advocate of international law and an active contributor to peace and stability in the region,' Ibrahim Al-Abed, director general of UAE's National Media Council, said in a statement while commenting on the decision taken by the Dubai Media City to close down the two channels. 'In the light of the current sensitive state of affairs in Pakistan, the UAE can only assume its responsibility and maintain its neutrality,' Al-Abed stated, according to the Emirates News Agency (WAM).
pakboy November 18th, 2007, 06:26 PM Cholesterol Say Paak
Nadeem F Paracha November 8, 2007
Tags: emergency , protest , resistance , Karachi , people , civil society
An old friend of mine, once watching one of those cooking oil TV commercials claiming the oil was " cholesterol say paak," asked, "kya matlab, kya cholesterol napaak hota hai?"
Well, such are the ways of language used without much thought. Language learned and spoken without meaning,becoming jargon and rhetoric lapped up and spouted out to trigger off responses that are more instinctive than thoughtful.
So, this reminded me of the way the press these days is out and about using the word "civil society." When they say something like, "the lawyers were joined by members of the civil society in their protest against the Emergency," are they suggesting that those who preferred to stay at home, or rather, had to put in their daily eight hours of work at the office, are uncivil?
Because if there is a civil society, then there must be an uncivil society as well, right? Now what can that be? Maybe it is a society of people who actually go out and vote during a general elections, but prefer watching a cricket match on the tele when members of the "civil society" give a call to come out on the streets "to defend democracy."
Of course, it does not matter that most fine, well-bred members of the "civil society," these days seen in newspaper photos jumping up and down and decrying the "murder of democracy," hardly ever venture out to vote. This stark irony is not lost on the uncouth members of the uncivil society, though. Those barbarians.
Mind my barbaric, uncivil sense of comedy, but I just couldn't help stumble into a short, sharp burst of manic laughter after watching a photo in an English daily of a decked up lady standing outside the posh Agha's Supermarket in Karachi, carrying a placard denouncing Musharraf's Emergency.
Of course, the dreadful, dreadful Emergency did not stop the famous supermarket to stack up its usual stock of imported goodies though; a tragic, catastrophic, awful happening that only used to plague the uncivil people of former Communist countries.
But had this been the case here, the lady would have flown out to Dubai by now. To hell with democracy. After all, as most uncivil beings will tell you, it's easy to defend democracy on a full stomach. If so, then does this mean that the civil society's recent revolutionary antics and chants are nothing more than a loud burp?
However, even more intriguing is the desperation being exhibited by most English dailies in trying their utmost to bang on our uncivil heads that "members of the civil society" are now very much part of the lawyers' movement against Musharraf. Right.
I mean, actually putting a photo of a "demonstration" held by one woman (one civil woman, mind you), is rather stunning an act. How about putting a picture of a busy shopping area in Lahore, or busier business district in Karachi. That's a demonstration as well, isn't it? A demonstration of life as usual. And it certainly has a lot more people than the one standing outside the supermarket and the fourteen outside the Karachi Press Club.
The leading heroes of the wonderful "civil society" these days are the protesting lawyers. Gets me all excited and teary eyed. Yeh tho khusi kay ansoon hain, paglay. But expect a barbaric member of the uncivil society to spoil my joy. His name is Yasir and he sells paan and cigarettes on Karachi's Zainab Market.
About a month ago, while talking to his assistant, Anwar, I heard him saying something about a lawyer's rally in Karachi that was covered by a famous TV news channel. " Abay, kal Waheed Bhai koh TV pay dekha tha? Kya chilaangain maar raha tha!"
I barged into the conversation and asked who this Wahid Bhai was. As it turned out, Wahid Bhai was the ex-lawyer of one of Yasir's maternal uncles who was (according to Yasir) "wrongfully" arrested for some petty crime. Yasir said that the crime was so flimsy that a junior lawyer could have gotten him off easily. He said they went through three inexpensive lawyers (one of which was Wahid Bhai), but all of them gave Yasir's family and uncle such a run around that the uncle actually decided to go to jail and complete the two years sentence the judge eventually handed him.
"And now look at him (Wahid Bhai)," said Yasir (in Urdu). "He's on TV waving his fists and swearing to bring down Musharraf's dictatorship." Hearing this, I let out a cynical burst of laughter. But Yasir remained serious. How uncivil of him.
I've angered a lot of friends recently with my stand on the current situation in the country. I am no lover of dictatorship nor was I so hunky-dory when the Emergency was imposed. But I am not the one to miss out on the ironies and the contradictions in the ways of the people decrying the Emergency. As I have mentioned here, the "civil society" reeks of hypocrisy and pretension in this respect, and I raised an eyebrow when the former CJP ordered to put yet another fanatic in charge of the Lal Masjid. And don't even get me started on the TV news channels. From news relaters they became news creators. "Democracy" and "Jihad" became brands targeted at a market of bored audience who now looked to these channels as new entertainment avenues. Speaking live to terrorists and extremists and talk programs mutating into political versions of the Jerry Springer show certainly beat the mundane ways of a soap opera or a music video. No wonder these channels started getting more advertising than the entertainment channels.
So, on Wednesday last some channels did manage to return. One of them talked about the economy in a show which was otherwise known to tackle political events, while the other channel managed to run at least one of its fiery political talk shows, Luqman.Com.
Of course, Bhai Luqman would seem rather out of it while talking economics, so he decided to still give the viewers another brimstone and fire performance by bashing the civil society's most popular target: Benazir Bhutto.
However, last month, it was quite a sight observing the faces of the members of the "civil society" as they shockingly watched millions from the uncivil society turn up to greet Benazir Bhutto. They hated it. Her arrogance and charges of corruption on her withstanding, I have noticed that the thing that bothers the "civil society" about Ms. Bhutto the most is the way she and her party reminds them of the dreaded " awami raaj." Rule of the great unwashed.
Yes, in spite of all the ideological and political changes it has gone through, the Pakistan Peoples Party still remains to be the only party in Pakistan capable of at least giving the common people (the uncivil lot), an illusion of peoples power. Also, unlike the "civil society," most of the uncivil people who turned up to greet Ms. Bhutto on that fateful day in Karachi, actually go out and vote. And she knows this and thus doesn't seem to be disturbed by the tyranny of confused middle-class morality that looks to be ruling the agendas of our news channels and the "civil society."
And here lies my problem with this "civil society." This protest movement being splashed so dramatically across newspapers and websites these days is now deeply rooted and emerging from this twisted moral mentality. That's why you can now actually hear fanatics like Hamid Gul, conservatives like Nawaz Sharif, the so-called "objective" anchormen and the likes of that decked up supermarket aunty singing along to the same tune.
The aunty also makes me understand why one can now also see some editors of frivolous fashion pages suddenly delivering passionate tirades against the powers that be and why all of a sudden we see the unleashing of similar tirades by the overrated young daughter of late Murtaza Bhutto (no saint, he) and, lo and behold! Jamaima baby!
A couple of days ago, a group of students from a prestigious university in Lahore arrived at my office to meet me. They said they were angered by the fact that a progressive man like me who stood up against the Zia-ul-Haq dictatorship as a student, has decided not to join the "movement against the Emergency."
"What movement, where?" I asked?
"Don't you read the papers?" One of them asked.
"I do," I said, "but I usually get my news by driving around the city. I see a look of uncertainty on the faces of the people, but no great movement," I said.
"Go on the BBC website and you'll know," said one of the girls.
"I did," I said. "But it seems the BBC or CNN or whatever is talking to the civil society rather than the uncivil one. And it is the throngs of uncivil men and women who really matter," said I.
They looked puzzled. Disappointed. Until one of them, a young intelligent looking lad who also claimed to be a Socialist, started to quote from an Imran Khan speech that he gave on their campus the day the Emergency was imposed.
"Wait a minute," I said. "What is a Socialist and a group of progressive young people doing listening and nodding to a reactionary?"
He had absolutely no idea about the contradiction I was trying to point out. But then, failing to avoid contradictions is an endearing feature of the "civil society."
The truth is, had the "civil society" reacted the same way against all the Fazaluulahs and Abdul Rashids, the Hamid Guls and the Shahid Masoods as it is does against Benazir Bhutto or Musharraf, I would have been more than glad to join their great crusade.
But it can't. Because to me, this crusade, in which I see the lawyers, the democrats, the extremists and the liberals hurled desperately together on the same boat, is a boat being captained by a skewed bourgeois mentality concocted from pieces of religious confusion, splinters of paranoia, chunks of hypocrisy, twists of naivety and most of all, a happily full stomach.
Media Master November 18th, 2007, 10:59 PM Geo News is available on the net live with Video & Audio seprately.
logon to
www.geo.tv
and watch live news.
pakboy November 19th, 2007, 08:47 AM geo news has come back.
they show news every hour on geo uk.
Red aRRow November 19th, 2007, 10:51 AM ^^ Nobody cares. :)
Arsalan November 19th, 2007, 12:23 PM The following ad has been printed in today's The News and Jang. I couldn't find the English language ad of The News on the web. So, posting the Jang version:
http://i3.tinypic.com/6t4oq3p.gif
FK November 19th, 2007, 07:02 PM "Afghanistan" :?
Media Master November 19th, 2007, 07:03 PM The following ad has been printed in today's The News and Jang. I couldn't find the English language ad of The News on the web. So, posting the Jang version:
http://i3.tinypic.com/6t4oq3p.gif
Will geo give Dishes to ppl?
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