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Fabian
October 10th, 2002, 09:17 AM
I took these construction photos of Lobana's construction today. These are the first photos taken of it's construction. I can tell you that it's taking a long time to rise to ground level. Also it was very noisy.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid35/pa009a7e3066ed79a0538eb9c7e648582/fd2f0b59.jpg.orig.jpg

The core????

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid35/pc0a2b9d8e2834874b5763cafbffc6988/fd2f0b63.jpg.orig.jpg

Cement Trucks

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid35/p4d0e3b5674fa63f2e632f459f8cbd930/fd2f0b52.jpg

Across the road

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid35/pb67165ebcc05eeb0d94f5c2c2657b441/fd2f0b35.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid35/p9ecb1c84eaff378aba363c3002af68ea/fd2f0b48.jpg

spazpecker
October 10th, 2002, 09:23 AM
good stuff fabian !

Did you get down to check out North apartments on Goulburn ?

CULWULLA
October 10th, 2002, 09:35 AM
fABIAN, i took some pix last month from kent st carpark. ill repost it.

also STATS ON LOBANA TOWER-

no of floors-55 (45 above ground)
height--137m
height above sea level- 161m

cheers
;)

Fabian
October 10th, 2002, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by spazpecker
good stuff fabian !

Did you get down to check out North apartments on Goulburn ?

I forgot that one. Will check it out next time which won't be until Christmas

Also it might provide the answer to this crane I noticed from George St across the road from World Tower.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid35/p2e69f1228d089fa931f4a5fc583c3ba9/fd2f0b85.jpg

fro
October 10th, 2002, 03:09 PM
Yeah! Top pics Fabian! it's good to see these official threads getting the treatment they deserve. akes me want to go out into the city and start snapping away. :D

finn
October 11th, 2002, 03:31 AM
Excellent pic Fabian! Lobana has grown a lot since I last saw it, believe it or not!

It was sitting there fully excavated for so long, and I swear that the hole was about twice as deep, if not more than the picture you took of the core, so really, its about twice as far along as when I last looked down there in the early stages of ths year!

Here are a couple of pics I took of the crane and the site from street level in late January this year:

http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~afindlay/lobana01.jpg

http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~afindlay/lobana02.jpg

Fabian
October 11th, 2002, 08:21 AM
I was amazed when I went past that site in May and I think I went past it before that and I was amazed by the depth of the hole. I had never seen such a deep hole before. It looks as if it were deeper than 30 metres.

CULWULLA
October 11th, 2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Fabian
I was amazed when I went past that site in May and I think I went past it before that and I was amazed by the depth of the hole. I had never seen such a deep hole before. It looks as if it were deeper than 30 metres.

The hole is actually 28m deep! Coves and World towers was 30m at its deepest! all 3 towers have 10 levels below ground!

cheers

Fabian
October 12th, 2002, 10:42 AM
I took model pictures of Lobana recently so you can have an idea of what it will look like when completed

Click Here (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4340) to view the model pictures

Muse
October 17th, 2002, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by CULWULLA The hole is actually 28m deep! Coves and World towers was 30m at its deepest! all 3 towers have 10 levels below ground!cheers This one is rising very fast out of its pit!! Already only 2 levels below street level. Wow!! So quickly.

Also looks like new boards have been put up around the site (obviously with a render to come). I have a final render sent from Meriton a couple of weeks ago but unable to scan. :( Looks really great!! :)

Fabian
October 17th, 2002, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the update and for providing the floor level it was at. I couldn't tell from those pictures what level it was at. It looked as if there were more than two floors below the ground because the hole was so deep, but after checking it out, you'd have to be right. I will start taking off when it hits ground level which might not be until next month.

CULWULLA
October 21st, 2002, 06:28 AM
with thanks to Museumb, heres a render i scanned for him!
im using pbase.com for large pic and imagestation for small pic.

http://jjj.image.pbase.com/u10/digby/large/6130360.lobana.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p6932e478b6cfd7a30a8eecb2645a97cb/fd246e9e.jpg

tayser
October 21st, 2002, 06:32 AM
that's a sweet looking tower!

culwulla I tested pbase out a few days ago and yer they don't allow hotlinking....

anyhow taken the liberty of throwing it up on my webspace (the large version):

http://users.bigpond.net.au/tayser/lobanarender.jpg

cheers :banana:

jcocks
October 21st, 2002, 06:34 AM
From what I can see there, it looks as though it's going to be a blend of Modern and Art Deco architectural styles. I like!

:) :) :)

finn
October 21st, 2002, 06:49 AM
A great looking tower! That rendering is so much clearer than previous ones I've seen! :okay:

Originally posted by tayser
culwulla I tested pbase out a few days ago and yer they don't allow hotlinking....


And Culwulla's pbase links are working fine for me. I checked it on a hotlinking test (http://www.hotlinking.com), and it worked fine.

tayser
October 21st, 2002, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by finn

And Culwulla's pbase links are working fine for me. I checked it on a hotlinking test (http://www.hotlinking.com), and it worked fine.

sorry off topic convo here, finn: nup didnt work for me and it doesnt work in the testing forum on here either for me ??

tays

CULWULLA
October 21st, 2002, 07:29 AM
thanks tays, dont you hate it when you posted a grat pic and little red cross comes up instead!:rant:

cheers mate!

Fabian
October 21st, 2002, 09:13 AM
That rendering looks excellent. I like how they are using glass, something we don't usually see in residential developments here in Australia.

Can't wait until it's completed after seeing that and also worth watching when it eventually rises above the ground.

Muse
October 21st, 2002, 11:31 PM
Thanks for doing that CULWULLA (i couldn't just keep it at home all for myself :) )

It has enough glass to break it up and make the design look sheerer and more interesting. Slender too. Should make a welcome change to the Energy Oz/Water Board paternal twins that have dominated that section of Bathurst St for years (apart from the HSBC Tower).

Good to see also that as i've mentioned before, the granite is finally being replaced as in the "Across the road" pics, at the base of the HSBC Tower.

SinCity
October 21st, 2002, 11:48 PM
I wasn't so sure if this tower would be anything great, but now seeing the latest renders I am so impressed. It will look great in that part of town. I have to admit Meriton has improved so much with their designs, especially when you compare it to their 80s & 90s stuff which was so boring. Another beauty thanks to Harry!

Kay
October 22nd, 2002, 03:14 AM
Thank you Muse, and thank you Richard.
That is a very good rendering. I think I remember the old black and white ones... and this is certainly better.

The building doesn't looks too bad at all.
The only thing is the oversized plant room at top.
This must be a new thing in residential buildings, because a lot of new buildings have a really big one.

jcocks
October 22nd, 2002, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Kay
Thank you Muse, and thank you Richard.
That is a very good rendering. I think I remember the old black and white ones... and this is certainly better.

The building doesn't looks too bad at all.
The only thing is the oversized plant room at top.
This must be a new thing in residential buildings, because a lot of new buildings have a really big one.

Hmm... What sort of gear do they have in the plant room? I know there'd be stuff like lift hoists and controllers...

How do they do the aircon in residential apartments nowadays? A whole lot of split-system units in each apartment connected to one (or more) central heat pump(s) in the plant room(s)? That would make sense....

rondeez
October 22nd, 2002, 04:17 AM
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I THOUGHT PLANT ROOMS WERE FOR PLANTS .... u know the green things that grow? LMFAO!

hahahaha im being serious! :)

:stupid:

CULWULLA
October 22nd, 2002, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Kay
Thank you Muse, and thank you Richard.
That is a very good rendering. I think I remember the old black and white ones... and this is certainly better.

The building doesn't looks too bad at all.
The only thing is the oversized plant room at top.
This must be a new thing in residential buildings, because a lot of new buildings have a really big one.

Kay, the top 8 floors are actually residential with top 2 being for plant use.they have no balconies! just metal cladding!

Kay
October 22nd, 2002, 04:37 AM
Really? Wow... that's interesting... I wonder why they made them like that...

the top block section (as on the city model) certainly sticks out a lot.

It reminds of the first Yarra's Edge Tower. It has this box on top which is so different to the rest of the tower design and sticks out a lot.
I actually told Tayser than its colour and some features remind me of the top of Eureka.

LOL Rondeez... idiot! Haha! :) :D

Fabian
October 26th, 2002, 10:41 PM
I went past the site yesterday and took some new photos. It is now only one floor from ground level. Unlike last time, it was very quiet on the street with no sign of concrete trucks.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/pa2bf81d56974b95b28dc16ba76d48f83/fd1f705f.jpg

The Core

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p9ba0426a0c2fbfb094120d871eb2cffd/fd1f7060.jpg

Muse
October 26th, 2002, 11:01 PM
Already a core appearing. Cool!

finn
October 27th, 2002, 03:07 PM
It's great to know that they're well and truly back to work on Lobana now!

Can't wait till it gets above ground, and starts climbing into the skyline! :D

Fabian
October 27th, 2002, 08:48 PM
It's starting to move up faster now. It should start taking off when it is a few levels above the ground. We should start to see it taking off around January.

CULWULLA
October 27th, 2002, 11:43 PM
yeah, no doubt ill take pix of this one from my beloved spot on the 10storey carpark behind Hoyrs. You have a clear view across 101 bathurst st site and can see the whole site from street level up!!!
cheers:D

Fabian
October 28th, 2002, 06:53 AM
I took this picture of Lobana in the city model to show it's impact on the skyline. It won't have much of an impact from most angles but it's impact will be the greatest from the west as shown below and even then it will be minimal

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid29/pcc0f7e2ccf83fafa3c3e843289e67a17/fd595248.jpg

SydneyDude
October 28th, 2002, 07:03 AM
wow that render is amazing! Im excited about this tower now!

Muse
November 4th, 2002, 10:55 AM
Lobana's construction on Bathurst St. as of today is now up to the ground floor level. Sydney forumers rejoice in this construction update.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p6932e478b6cfd7a30a8eecb2645a97cb/fd246e9e.jpg

Fabian
November 4th, 2002, 08:47 PM
whooooooo

Thanks museumb for that news.

It rising quickly.

CULWULLA
November 4th, 2002, 11:27 PM
wow! level 10 already! only 45 to go!:D

spazpecker
November 5th, 2002, 01:38 AM
I like that rendering.

Noonos
November 5th, 2002, 07:10 AM
that'll rise pretty quickly, it sure looks nice too, a bit like Chifley.....

Muse
November 23rd, 2002, 09:19 AM
Stop the press!! It's a scoop.

Today on walking by the Lobana site, i realised that for the first time construction is now above street level. The workers are in the middle of building the ground floor. After all that time of looking down into a deep hole >( & :nuts: !!

This is surely an historical stage in the tower's construction.

Raise those champagne glasses :D !!

Fabian
November 23rd, 2002, 10:22 PM
Here's my toast:cheers:

It's pretty much been there all year. It's a milestone that they have reached ground level.

Museumb, have they moved up the crane as well?

finn
November 24th, 2002, 02:34 AM
Hopefully the recent speeding up of constructin - which has taken the tower up to ground level - will continue!

Now that its above ground, it would be great to see a rapid climb upwards, although even when it is topped out it will get kind of lost in the skyline!

Cheers anyway! :cheers:

AG
November 24th, 2002, 03:26 AM
Wow, if Lobana rises any faster, it'll be complete before World Tower! :D

Fabian
November 24th, 2002, 05:20 AM
Seeing it is a smaller tower, and the faster rate of progress it still won't top out before World Tower as well as being complete externally, but it could however beat World Tower to having it's apartments fully occupied.

finn
November 24th, 2002, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
Seeing it is a smaller tower, and the faster rate of progress it still won't top out before World Tower as well as being complete externally, but it could however beat World Tower to having it's apartments fully occupied.

Especially because Meriton apparently plans it for a rental property, with the apartments not for private sale.

When time is money, Meriton are probably counting the rental returns they are losing by having the building in-complete!

Fabian
November 24th, 2002, 08:58 PM
Thats very unusual that they won't be selling any of the apartments, just leasing them.

finn
November 25th, 2002, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
Thats very unusual that they won't be selling any of the apartments, just leasing them.

They did the same with "The Tiffany" twin towers at Bondi Junction.

Apparently Harry may decide that the last stage of World Tower - Skyrise - won't be released for sale either, but as rental properties instead. Except of course for the $10 million penthouse, which he is keeping for himself! ;)

Fabian
November 25th, 2002, 07:29 AM
I took these pictures of the Lobana model at the Sydney model room recently

North Side

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid34/p6d30544f90870e6740cd72b666433e60/fd354b7f.jpg

South side (Bathurst St)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid34/pfa5d683b06ebc68d2c10e28af410823f/fd354b8b.jpg

East Side (Pitt Street)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid34/pe59034a8baa6ab2a28c6edb09d040632/fd354b87.jpg

The western side is mostly walls with a one window on most floors.

Noonos
November 25th, 2002, 08:24 AM
fabian, how do you get the model out of there like that? just ask cul?

finn
November 25th, 2002, 09:34 AM
I saw the YMCA facade on my way down to the RNP the other day, and it looked pretty cool!

What is that other heritage building they've saved, along the Pitt St frontage?

Muse
November 28th, 2002, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by finn
Especially because Meriton apparently plans it for a rental property, with the apartments not for private sale.
As also mentioned, the same for Tiffany Towers in Bondi Junction:

http://www.meriton.com.au/tiffany/ltiffanylge1.jpg

Both Lobana Tower & Tiffany Towers, Bondi Junction are the personal holdings of the Managing Director of Meriton, Frank Mezzagosto.

Besides the apartments, the retail components are/will also be leased by Meriton.

For now, Meriton is planning to move its offices, currently housed in Museum Towers at 267 Castlereagh St, to Lobana Tower once completed.

Lobana's anticipated completion date at this stage is around the latter part of next year i.e 2003.

Fabian
November 28th, 2002, 08:46 PM
Noonos, yes you can ask him to take models out if you are taking photos of them.

finn
November 29th, 2002, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by museumb
For now, Meriton is planning to move its offices, currently housed in Museum Towers at 267 Castlereagh St, to Lobana Tower once completed.

Lobana's anticipated completion date at this stage is around the latter part of next year i.e 2003.

You're really in the know with this stuff museumb! Thanks for the info!

It's exciting to know - with the completion date of Lobana - that we'll be able to watch it rise over the city streets throughout next year! It will kinda be like Cove all over again! :D

Muse
November 29th, 2002, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by finn
I saw the YMCA facade on my way down to the RNP the other day, and it looked pretty cool! What is that other heritage building they've saved, along the Pitt St frontage?

The brick structure of the 1907 YMCA is to be incoroprated into the Lobaba Tower's project. In what capacity is yet to be seen. It is about 6 storeys with a tall gabled roof. It's address is 323 Pitt Street and has very beautiful decorative features on its facade.

The building to its right is just known as 321 Pitt St and its facade looks perhps 50s. The inside of it has been refurbished including all floors along with the top office floor at no. 7. Including gound floor and plant room on top, it would easily be 9 floors above ground. At this stage, 321 is not looking part of Lobana's development and looking at the renderings on previous pages in this thread, it won't be.

:okay:

Fabian
November 29th, 2002, 10:04 PM
Isn't the fascade going to the tramway museum down at Loftus?

Muse
November 29th, 2002, 10:56 PM
What facade do you mean Fabian? Even the YMCA is still standing in full on the Lobana site, and not with its facade just being held up.

In the rendering below you can even see that the 1907 YMCA building is still standing, along with its facade and gabled roof. (It's the short dark brown structure immediately to the right of the tower's base).

I'm sure the 1907 YMCA building in full, is going to be incoroprated into the Lobana project. Perhaps even housing the new Meriton offices once they move from their offices in Museum Towers.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p6932e478b6cfd7a30a8eecb2645a97cb/fd246e9e.jpg

Fabian
November 30th, 2002, 11:56 AM
Two new construction pictures taken today November 30

Still at ground level

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p036fdfa9b9e7040f4a78a7d94f4b358e/fcfdbc25.jpg

Corner George & Bathurst Streets

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p16540384977cf049d6397274e38ba2cb/fcfdbc05.jpg

Also, Maybe I was talking about another building in relation to the facade and got it mixed up.

finn
November 30th, 2002, 12:01 PM
Were there any workers on site today Fabian? I would assume probably not, because of the rain, and the fact that its a Saturday, but you never know - Meriton are usually go go go with their projects.

Fabian
December 1st, 2002, 08:31 AM
I didn't look out for any workers on site but I did get into a conservation with two men on the World Tower site having a break.

Noonos
December 3rd, 2002, 11:29 AM
went past this site on monday and they're around 2nd floor. Will this be a project here the core will go up ahead of the floor plates like WT? (just cos of the same builders I thought)

Fabian
December 3rd, 2002, 12:40 PM
I noticed that near the ground, the core rises with the floors but as it rises it starts to separate. Everyone agree?

Fabian
December 19th, 2002, 08:51 AM
Took a new picture today. It seems a bit of work has been done.

Notice the concrete columns?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid43/pde90ab2d477e3febd9d883d52ce0dc6d/fcea8e33.jpg

Steve World Tower
December 19th, 2002, 08:55 AM
Why isn't Lobana on Meritons web site ? I noticed Trafalgar has disappeared, what is the story with that ?

finn
December 19th, 2002, 09:59 AM
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Apparently Lobana will be a rental property, with Meriton as landlord, so they won't be on sale. The Tiffany in Bondi Junction was the same.

And Trafalgar is still on the site:

Trafalgar Sales Site (http://www.meriton.com.au/FMPro?-DB=meritonprojects.fp5&-Format=/meriton/sale.html&-lay=details&buildingid=trafalgar&-Find)

Noonos
December 19th, 2002, 12:22 PM
I was waiting for meriton to put up "meriton" signs, its so like them :ohno:

finn
December 19th, 2002, 12:28 PM
I really like your most recent picture Fabian - it kinda looks like a really dense city like New York in a way, with all the traffic and signs, and various layers of buildings of different ages.

And also, as you mentioned not only can we see some concrete columns, but the crane has raised! :)

Muse
December 19th, 2002, 02:06 PM
True finn, i can see that New York Cityish quality about Fabian's pic too.

Onya Fabian!

Fabian
December 19th, 2002, 09:27 PM
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The hasn't risen since my last visit. It is still the same height.

Muse
December 19th, 2002, 10:05 PM
Passing the site quickly yesterday, i noticed that they're already constructing the 2nd above ground level. Won't be long before it easily surpasses the height of the monorail's track. Yippee!

Once the wider lower 8 levels have been constructed, the rest of the tower will certainly rise quickly. Similar to how Cove had.

Noonos
December 20th, 2002, 12:27 AM
oh yeah I didn't notice that, good work fabian

Steve World Tower
December 20th, 2002, 02:51 AM
Yeah finn I just found Trafalgar again, must have been looking for it in thw rong place.


Have to also agree that that shot looks New Yorkish. I think that is why I will have to make Lobana my 2nd favourite building site after WT (only until Village starts). It will be just about as close to city living as you can get. Also I like the amount of glass on it.

Why do they have to pick dumb names like "lobana" though ???? What sort of a name is that for a majestic high rise in the heart of the city.

Fabian
December 31st, 2002, 02:14 PM
I went past the site today. The workers are on holidays. The bet is January 13 that work will resume on the site.

finn
January 1st, 2003, 12:35 AM
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It's highly possible that the tower will be named something other than "Lobana" - Lobana is the name given to the tower by the previous developers, before Meriton bought the site and the development rights/approval.

I definitely think the name will be changed when the project is more advanced and they start thinking about the marketing of it.

Fabian
January 1st, 2003, 02:07 AM
Lobana is a good name for the tower. Hope Merition keeps the name.

Steve World Tower
January 1st, 2003, 02:46 AM
I hope they do change it because "Lobana" sounds like a persons name, not the name of a high rise tower.

Why the 13th ? Why not the 6th ?

Noonos
January 1st, 2003, 01:38 PM
i dunno, but the 13th seems like the return date for buisness (not retail) as my dad is a lawyer and he goes back on the 13th

Fabian
January 2nd, 2003, 02:01 AM
Some good news

The photo I took just before Christmas now appears in photo documentary of Lobana which has started on SS.com.

Steve World Tower
January 2nd, 2003, 09:55 AM
They probably think it looks "New Yorkish" as well.


Safety in the wings

The Preston Group, the high-rise materials handling specialists who introduced the Superdeck retractable loading platform, has added a new product to its range that promises improved safety for crane crews.

Whereas in the past the crane crew had little room to guide the load or to secure or release lifting chains on narrower platforms, the patented Butterfly Platform has folding wings on both sides that provide a safety zone for the crew to operate in.

The wings are 3m long and 1m wide, but fold up so that the deck does not become a wide load for transportation purposes and the Butterfly Platform does not incur a transport penalty compared to a standard deck.

Each wing has a Safe Working Load (SWL) of 500kg: sufficient to support three workers in safety, without a need for them to wear a safety harness.

The platforms are not designed to support a load, but the main load area supports a SWL of 4000kg, and the wings provide a safe working area where use of narrower platforms is dictated by the working conditions such as where the platform needs be installed through a narrow window opening, between columns or conventionally through a smaller scaffold bay.

Meriton is using the Butterfly Platform on its Lobana Tower commercial/residential project at the corner of Bathurst and Pitt Streets in central Sydney. There are two adjoining sites: a basement excavation and a heritage building.

A tower is to be built above the heritage building, with columns for the tower passing through the heritage building. Preston modified a Butterfly Platform to fit through a basement doorway in the heritage building. A tower crane on site is using the platform to remove timber from the heritage building, and land formwork and steel for forming the columns.

Site manager Wally Lazovic intends to use butterfly platforms on the tower, and believes that the wings have application for wide platforms as well as narrow ones, in providing a safe working area for dogmen and crane chasers while providing a large deck to land loads on. He is sufficiently impressed with the platforms that he intends to use them regularly in the future.
http://www.infolink.com.au/articles/3c/0c011c3c.asp

Fabian
January 9th, 2003, 07:54 AM
I went past the site today and I think the crane has been raised slightly since last visit. I'll get a new image next week.

Also todays Herald has a picture of Harry Trigboff, Meriton chairman with the Lobana model. He was interviewed in regards to the fall in building approvals.

Muse
January 9th, 2003, 08:42 AM
Yeah, and under the pic of the "other" Harry with the model of Lobana, it said "on the cnr of Pitt & Market Sts" :ohno:.

...and thanks for the run-down Steve.

Noonos
January 9th, 2003, 11:54 AM
i saw that.... bloody huge model though, who designed lobana?

Fabian
January 9th, 2003, 09:20 PM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Yeah, and under the pic of the "other" Harry with the model of Lobana, it said "on the cnr of Pitt & Market Sts" :ohno:.

...and thanks for the run-down Steve.</td></tr>
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How stupid are they getting the address wrong.

Noonos
January 10th, 2003, 12:57 AM
isn't it pitt and bathurst? So does anyone know who designed lobana???

also anyone kow where i can get me hands on that moddel in the paper?

Fabian
January 10th, 2003, 01:42 AM
I don't think you'll be able to see it until they commence asking for tenants for their apartments. Lobana's apartments unlike other Meriton towers will be owned by the company and leased out.

Steve World Tower
January 10th, 2003, 03:00 AM
It would be good if someone could scan the newspaper clipping with it in. So far there is only just one rendering of it. There is no other pictures at all are there ?

Blabbyboy
January 10th, 2003, 03:04 AM
I must say that Lobana is a fine building indeed. Must stop neglecting interstate posts! hahahaha j/k!:angel1: :D :angel1:

Fabian
January 10th, 2003, 04:29 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Steve World Tower </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>It would be good if someone could scan the newspaper clipping with it in. So far there is only just one rendering of it. There is no other pictures at all are there ?</td></tr>
</table>

The best I can get is a photo with the digital.

Steve World Tower
January 10th, 2003, 04:54 AM
Anything would be cool, just to see any pics of it.

Muse
January 10th, 2003, 05:25 AM
Gee, i was very lucky to get the previous rendering from Meriton, which CULWULLA scanned, let alone more pics.

<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Noonos </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>isn't it pitt and bathurst? So does anyone know who designed lobana???

also anyone kow where i can get me hands on that moddel in the paper?</td></tr>
</table>
It was really only the base of the tower in the pic. but all of Harry T. i have left a message @ Meriton in regard to the architect. As soon as i find out......and yes, Pitt & Bathurst (silly Herald).

@ Blabbyboy. We welcome your input and hope you will continue to do so in some of the Sydney threads :okay:

Muse
January 14th, 2003, 04:40 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Noonos </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>So does anyone know who designed lobana???</td></tr>
</table>
Yes, an in-house Meriton architect named Alan Johnson. He is chief architect on the project.

CULWULLA
January 14th, 2003, 05:37 AM
wow 2 pages already and it hasnt started above ground yet??

Muse
January 14th, 2003, 05:47 AM
Yes it has CULWULLA. I walked by it about 2 hours ago and it is already reaching 2 levels above ground of its 8 storey base, before shooting up the rest of the tower! In fact, it is virtually the same height as the monorail line.

Fabian
January 14th, 2003, 06:03 AM
I like that news!

The first real movement upwards, and the first on a CBD site this year.

I must get a picture of that on Thursday on my way to the meet so everyone can see this.

Steve World Tower
January 14th, 2003, 06:37 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Fabian </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>I like that news!

The first real movement upwards, and the first on a CBD site this year.

I must get a picture of that on Thursday on my way to the meet so everyone can see this.</td></tr>
</table>

Don't forget. I can't wait to see this one, I have really been looking forward to it. Should it start to rise like a level every 8 days or so now ?

Noonos
January 14th, 2003, 01:47 PM
I reckon most of meritons in-house architects are pretty dodgy, i mean looks at the tiffany towers, they're gross.

Fabian
January 14th, 2003, 10:13 PM
The floorplates are more slender than World Tower's so it may rise quicker than that experienced there.

Muse
January 14th, 2003, 11:45 PM
If the tower rises as fast as the 10 basement levels did then we're looking at a Cove type of rising; zoom, zoom, zoom. But of course the tower will not be as the (basically simple) concrete-laden basement levels.

BTW The person i spoke with @ Meriton referred to it as Lobana House a few times. So it seems its actual name is Lobana House.

CULWULLA
January 15th, 2003, 12:01 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Noonos </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>I reckon most of meritons in-house architects are pretty dodgy, i mean looks at the tiffany towers, they're gross.</td></tr>
</table>
Noonas, that was nearly 20 years ago! they have great architects now, look at World Tower!!

Muse
January 15th, 2003, 12:09 AM
...and look at the design for Lobana House.

Noonos
January 15th, 2003, 01:03 AM
dont ya mean 2? tiffany tower at bondi jct i meant....

finn
January 15th, 2003, 01:58 AM
Meriton are out-sourcing architects for a lot of their projects now!

Projects like:

World Tower (CBD) - KPF
The Tiffany (Bondi Junction) - Marchese Partners
Maestri Towers (CBD) - Marchese Partners
Village Development (CBD) - Harry Seidler
Trevillion (Bondi Junction) - Graham Jahn
Crown Square Development (Moore Park) - Marchese Partners

These are the names that are attached to the projects at least, however the in-house team most probably does all the interior lay-outs and apartment plans.

I like The Tiffany! The base is cool when you come up from the Railway Station, and I think the residential towers are nice too!

Steve World Tower
January 15th, 2003, 02:32 AM
What will be in the bottom floors of Lobana ? Will it be shops or an arcade ?

Noonos
January 15th, 2003, 06:13 AM
I knew meriton were dodgy. Trevillion residences claim that there are cracks in the walls...

Fabian
January 16th, 2003, 06:48 AM
I took a new photo today. The site looks pretty much like how it ended 2002.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/p35b0352afb19a4a7b97e78d2e9751c50/fcc5d0a0.jpg

Steve World Tower
January 16th, 2003, 07:30 AM
Its good to see what is happening but it is a bit dissapointing because I thought we would be able to see a bit more progress. Well hopefully it will be noticeable soon.

Muse
January 27th, 2003, 06:48 AM
Steve, you might be happy about the fact that the exterior walls on the corner are starting to rise - in fact above the monorail track. Uncladded (or unpainted) shaped concrete exterior walls, giving an idea of what it will entail. I noticed this yesterday while in town with a friend.

BTW The Meriton office is refering to it as "Lobana House".

Fabian
January 27th, 2003, 07:02 AM
Does this mean that another floor has been added since I took that last photo?

Steve World Tower
January 27th, 2003, 08:34 AM
That is good to hear. Up until now it has been difficult to see what is going on but as soon as it gets above those signs we can watch it progress like all the others

CULWULLA
January 29th, 2003, 12:30 PM
took these today! concrete was getting poured and panels were being attached!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/180503.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/180499.jpg

Fabian
January 29th, 2003, 09:03 PM
Looks like the site offices are being built too. That will hinder our view for a while.

Good to see some progress!

Mar
January 30th, 2003, 12:09 AM
It's well underway in construction and yet no diagram on Skyscraperpage.com!

Steve World Tower
January 30th, 2003, 03:29 AM
Are those white square pillar things part of Lobana ??

Fabian
January 30th, 2003, 06:46 AM
I took a new photo today from usual spot in Bathurst St.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pa3843cad4f87178ea16bfd7b842eafca/fcb5aa1f.jpg

Steve World Tower
February 10th, 2003, 02:27 AM
Has Lobana progressed at all since the last update ?

Fabian
February 10th, 2003, 06:55 AM
I'll be in the city next week. I hopefully will have my camera with me. If not I'll go past the site and write down what I saw.

Steve World Tower
February 10th, 2003, 06:56 AM
Cool

CULWULLA
February 10th, 2003, 07:03 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Fabian </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>I'll be in the city next week. I hopefully will have my camera with me. If not I'll go past the site and write down what I saw.</td></tr>
</table>
ill save you a trip! i see the site nearly everyday! i tell if anything is happening!

Noonos
February 10th, 2003, 11:52 AM
im going into town on fri w/ cullus so ill go past the site.

CULWULLA
February 11th, 2003, 04:48 AM
Tuesday Feb-11,-
http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/02/182052.jpg

the safety protection platform has been put up over the monorail track.


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/02/182053.jpg

Steve World Tower
February 11th, 2003, 04:52 AM
That is weird. You can see the walls rise before the core.

Fabian
February 11th, 2003, 05:51 AM
Thanks for that Culwulla.

It has finally after so long moved up another floor!

Muse
February 12th, 2003, 06:57 AM
Dunno about the overhang :? Protecting the moNOrail from falling bits during construction. Better safe than......

Fabian
February 12th, 2003, 07:34 AM
They need the overhang for safety reasons. one falling peiece could maim or kill someone and disrupt the monorail system.

CULWULLA
February 18th, 2003, 04:24 AM
view from bathurst st today! the concrete panels are rising!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/02/182801.jpg

Fabian
February 18th, 2003, 06:59 AM
Starting to make quick progress.

Steve World Tower
February 18th, 2003, 09:21 AM
Does the fact that Lobana is on a really really small piece of land mean that the floors will be small so it will go up at high speed ????

CULWULLA
February 18th, 2003, 12:55 PM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Steve World Tower </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Does the fact that Lobana is on a really really small piece of land mean that the floors will be small so it will go up at high speed ????</td></tr>
</table>
Actually, Lobana's floor plate is quite intricate and changes regulary every few floors up the tower. It is only small in size to WT but i think it will still take a year to top out! this time next year it should be nearly done!;)

CULWULLA
February 18th, 2003, 12:57 PM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by museumb </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Dunno about the overhang :? Protecting the moNOrail from falling bits during construction. Better safe than......</td></tr>
</table>
Theres one of these now on the Hilton site!
:bash:

Fabian
February 18th, 2003, 08:44 PM
Here is a picture of the overhang on the Hilton Site

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/pff8d75fac14da567c24dc1dae3fcb4a6/fcdb6129.jpg

Steve World Tower
February 19th, 2003, 01:25 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by CULWULLA </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top><table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Steve World Tower </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Does the fact that Lobana is on a really really small piece of land mean that the floors will be small so it will go up at high speed ????</td></tr>
</table>
Actually, Lobana's floor plate is quite intricate and changes regulary every few floors up the tower. It is only small in size to WT but i think it will still take a year to top out! this time next year it should be nearly done!;)</td></tr>
</table>

Hmm. Well looks like next year is going to be a massive year for Sydney.

Noonos
February 19th, 2003, 07:52 AM
oh man could this thing take longer???hurry up!!:bleep:

CULWULLA
February 24th, 2003, 04:55 AM
pix from today!
the steel mesh is now rising along the facade!
this pic will look great in a few months!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/pe5d44232cae73c95f7f0fca2419f4d20/fc9802c0.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/p497d98912e4db9be26fb6893e2cfda51/fc980406.jpg

Fabian
February 24th, 2003, 05:23 AM
Thats great

It's also gone up another floor!

Muse
February 24th, 2003, 05:42 AM
I won't be excited until the 8 base floors are done, and then for the reaaaaaaaaaal tower to start!!

northern beaches
February 24th, 2003, 07:33 AM
Will this building be taller than the adjacent Energy Australia?

Muse
February 24th, 2003, 07:43 AM
Yes, Lobana = 137, Energy Oz = 99m.

See rendering on page 3 of this thread n.b..

Bulwara
February 25th, 2003, 11:15 AM
Here's how it's looking ... these pics taken today!
The base floors are progressing well

http://images2.fotki.com/v18/photos/2/22045/167517/0294-vi.jpg

http://images2.fotki.com/v18/photos/2/22045/167517/0297-vi.jpg

Fabian
February 25th, 2003, 09:01 PM
It looks like that they are cladding as they go along.

Muse
February 25th, 2003, 09:33 PM
Kinda like John Maddison Building type mouldings.

CULWULLA
March 13th, 2003, 12:34 PM
pic from today!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid54/pe09aecf13fec95c741178c150616b4cb/fc82f6a8.jpg

Fabian
March 13th, 2003, 09:01 PM
It's hardly made any progress. I'm very disappointed by the slowdown.

Muse
March 13th, 2003, 10:58 PM
Fabian,

Don't despair :ohno: .

I don't think there has been any slowdown as such....

Look @ the huge metalallic wire's that are still rising to support the future pre-feb concrete outer layers of Lobana's 8 levels of its base in CULWULLA'S last pic post of the 13/03.

Reiterarting, there is no slow down. It is all part of the construction process :okay:.

CULWULLA
March 14th, 2003, 12:57 AM
Im actually impressed by the speed of Lobanas construction! its going fine, it should be nearly full height by years end!

CULWULLA
March 18th, 2003, 01:57 PM
from today!
the core was showing alot of progress.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p22a718f7c84999a48a6e2d697b1085ce/fc7c744a.jpg

Fabian
March 18th, 2003, 08:57 PM
Here is one from yesterday morning. I can see a bit in progress in regards to the fascade. Good to see that the lift core is starting to move ahead of the floorplates which is not visibile in mine but in Culwulla's. It means I'll have to move spots.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p050729ee3f76978fe49fc0dbdee5070c/fc7cc7a1.jpg

Bulwara
March 20th, 2003, 03:27 AM
Excellent! I drove past the site last night & noticed it's progress, coming along nicely

CULWULLA
March 27th, 2003, 05:15 AM
the core has risen another floor.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/186143.jpg


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/186145.jpg

Fabian
March 27th, 2003, 05:51 AM
The core looks pretty big for such a small tower. Nice to see that it has started to separate away from the floorplates.

Blabbyboy
March 27th, 2003, 09:40 AM
The render actually makes it look like a huge tower....I'm confused...is this a Harry work?

CULWULLA
March 27th, 2003, 11:30 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Blabbyboy </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>The render actually makes it look like a huge tower....I'm confused...is this a Harry work?</td></tr>
</table>
harry as in Trigabof??lol its a Meriton design with its own architects.

Noonos
March 27th, 2003, 12:36 PM
i think he meant harry s ;)

also u can barly see the core!

why isnt there a corebox with "meriton" alover it?

Bulwara
March 27th, 2003, 01:13 PM
I'm guessing the core-box isn't complete yet. Perhaps soon we'll be seeing the trademark blue core-box with Meriton name

CULWULLA
March 27th, 2003, 02:35 PM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Noonos </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>i think he meant harry s ;)

also u can barly see the core!

why isnt there a corebox with "meriton" alover it?</td></tr>
</table>
i know he ment harry seidler! :ohno: thats why i said harry trigabof! the corebox looks like it will be assembled within 2 weeks and then the core will soar skywards to full height by xmas!!

Muse
March 29th, 2003, 12:54 AM
I did post this on page 5 of this thread, but just a reminder, Lobana was designed by an in-house Meriton architect, Alan Johnson. He is the chief architect on the project.

climbing_crane
March 29th, 2003, 05:17 AM
Once World Tower is done I'd say Lobana would be one of the next best to see under construction along with Latitude and BT Tower. I remember seeing the massive hole in the ground close on a year ago now so it's taken awhile to get to street level. I remember the same thing happened with Cove but once it starts to go above street level it will go up super fast. I'm gonna get many pics of this one in it's construction phase.

Muse
March 29th, 2003, 07:53 AM
This afternoon I went downtown to do a few things.

On walking by the Lobana site, I crossed the road and sat on the most western ledge @ street level of the Sydney Waterboard Building. The core was completely visible - so for anyone one who would like to take a pic of the rising core, that is my strong recommendation to do so.

Fabian
March 29th, 2003, 07:59 AM
I actually went by the site just before 12 and took these. This supports what museumb said about the visible core

Apologies for the quality of this pictures. Blame it on the cloudy weather! If someone knows how to deal with photo's in such conditions, please tell me, even if it means fixing them up on the computer. I used the flash for the photos.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/pa8b6425cc3ca775c58a1fb443b43e39f/fc6e0e06.jpg

This one came out better

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/pc42a688a9d41deafd040ad5141016086/fc6e0e05.jpg

CULWULLA
March 29th, 2003, 08:01 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Steve World Tower </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>What will be in the bottom floors of Lobana ? Will it be shops or an arcade ?</td></tr>
</table>
Only the bottom floor will be retail etc. every other floor will be residential

climbing_crane
March 29th, 2003, 11:57 AM
When this one gets to the same height as the Energy building then the workers will be able to have lunch on the roof of it!

CULWULLA
April 3rd, 2003, 01:05 PM
the core box is fully formed now, so only way now is up!!!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/187487.jpg

Noonos
April 3rd, 2003, 01:22 PM
thats great! but theres no "meriton" all over it? :?

climbing_crane
April 4th, 2003, 02:55 AM
The Meriton sign is on the crane shaft silly.:)

Fabian
April 4th, 2003, 09:54 AM
That corebox looks huge! It looked so small about a week ago.

climbing_crane
April 4th, 2003, 02:25 PM
I'm really excited about this one about to go up. Every time I come close to it I have to stop myself from panting. I reckon that crane will go higher pretty soon.

CULWULLA
April 8th, 2003, 03:22 PM
today!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/188154.jpg

Fabian
April 8th, 2003, 09:57 PM
Up another floor. Thats good!

Lets hope the next floor rise takes even quicker.

Muse
April 8th, 2003, 10:00 PM
Yes, now that the concentration is easing off on the construction of the core box, the floors are indeed starting to rise again!

Steve World Tower
April 9th, 2003, 12:27 AM
Yeah Baby......Yeah

Steve World Tower
April 9th, 2003, 01:33 AM
How more levels of the podium to go ? 2 or 3 ?

CULWULLA
April 9th, 2003, 01:55 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by CULWULLA </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>today!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/188154.jpg</td></tr>
</table>
just looking at my elevation plan of Lobana, the core is curently at level6 or 24m above street. this is the height the podium will reach.

Steve World Tower
April 9th, 2003, 08:10 AM
Excellent so only 2 more levels of cladding, which at this rate should only be about 2 more weeks.

Muse
April 9th, 2003, 02:43 PM
At this rate, kinda true Steve W.T. for the base levels of Lobana :okay:

Steve World Tower
April 10th, 2003, 04:40 AM
What architectural style is Lobana ?

CULWULLA
April 10th, 2003, 05:42 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Steve World Tower </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>What architectural style is Lobana ?</td></tr>
</table>
meritonism. lol. i think it will be basically post modern.

Steve World Tower
April 10th, 2003, 12:41 PM
Whatever it is it wouldn't look out of place as an American apartment building, I am guessing they chose that style partly based on the buildings around it.

Muse
April 11th, 2003, 05:32 PM
IMHO It looks more like the best of the best of a Gold Coast apartment tower.

In regard to giving it a style label, as finn pointed out in the other Meriton beauty thread, World Tower, something now known as neo-modernism - perhaps this its style.

climbing_crane
April 12th, 2003, 01:48 PM
Are they going to make a new monorail stop out the front? And how does a building have style. It either looks good or it doesn't, simple as that.

Noonos
April 12th, 2003, 02:15 PM
id say theyd intergrate a new monorail stop into the tower it self, just like WT i think

finn
April 12th, 2003, 04:59 PM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by climbing_crane </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Are they going to make a new monorail stop out the front? And how does a building have style. It either looks good or it doesn't, simple as that.</td></tr>
</table>

That is subjective. The architectural style of a particular building is a factual characteristic - it doesnt change, whether you think it looks good or not.

Fabian
April 12th, 2003, 11:54 PM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by climbing_crane </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Are they going to make a new monorail stop out the front? And how does a building have style. It either looks good or it doesn't, simple as that.</td></tr>
</table>

There won't be a monorail stop.

Muse
April 13th, 2003, 01:53 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by climbing_crane </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Are they going to make a new monorail stop out the front? And how does a building have style. It either looks good or it doesn't, simple as that.</td></tr>
</table>
We're not talking about style as in glamourous people in advertising. Like styles in music i.e. hip-hop, soul, the blues etc., well, so do buildings.

As finn said, whether you like it or not is up to you and only you. So when we talk about styles here, we mean architectural styles eg. art deco, modern, post modern etc etc etc..

So NOT quote "simple as that" for all of us.

CULWULLA
April 13th, 2003, 03:52 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Noonos </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>id say theyd intergrate a new monorail stop into the tower it self, just like WT i think</td></tr>
</table>
no way! the last thing residents will want is a monorail stopping outside there front door! there has been designated stops since the monorail commenced back in the 80's. The next stop is citigroup!
The world square stop was always there, but it stops east of the World tower just near hotel .

finn
April 13th, 2003, 07:17 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by CULWULLA </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top><table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Noonos </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>id say theyd intergrate a new monorail stop into the tower it self, just like WT i think</td></tr>
</table>
no way! the last thing residents will want is a monorail stopping outside there front door! there has been designated stops since the monorail commenced back in the 80's. The next stop is citigroup!
The world square stop was always there, but it stops east of the World tower just near hotel .</td></tr>
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Had they always planned the stop at Harbour Garden Towers? That one was a loooooooooong time coming! It was only opened around 2000 wasn't it? And the monorail was constructed in 1988!

CULWULLA
April 13th, 2003, 07:21 AM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>id say theyd intergrate a new monorail stop into the tower it self, just like WT i think</td></tr>
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no way! the last thing residents will want is a monorail stopping outside there front door! there has been designated stops since the monorail commenced back in the 80's. The next stop is citigroup!
The world square stop was always there, but it stops east of the World tower just near hotel .</td></tr>
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Had they always planned the stop at Harbour Garden Towers? That one was a loooooooooong time coming! It was only opened around 2000 wasn't it? And the monorail was constructed in 1988!</td></tr>
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yep! there was always a planned stop there too! there was a plan of the network showing all stops in 1988. All the "holes" should of been completed by then but we know what happened there!

climbing_crane
April 14th, 2003, 08:40 AM
The monorail is the train to nowhere. Kinda fun going around in circles eh. I'd much rather a tram. And when is the crane going to rise. It's been at this level since it was first assembled.:bleep:

CULWULLA
April 15th, 2003, 03:19 AM
saw the latest rendering/elevation of "Lobana House" -as its now called. the planner had it on desk to show latest amendments which inlcuded its colour scheme!!!
wow! it looks great! very stylish indeed!
the podium ias sanstony beiges and the tower is white to very light yellows with aluminium juliet balcs, some were even "red" in colour!
the top sections in light greys with the penthouse and plant room section as a very dark grey spandrals- almost black!! looked better than i imagined!! meriton have excelled with this design! 2 thumbs up!
ill have to wait to get elevation! ill post as soon as i can!

climbing_crane
April 17th, 2003, 11:35 AM
Well here is something very odd I noticed today. You may or may not know this already.

There seems to be a new crane being assembled right next to the one at current. Whatever you call those metal boxes welded together that the crane driver climbs through well there's a dark red one already there climbing through a couple of floors.

I figure that maybe they will dismantle the previous crane once the podium is done and put the new one in so it has more room. This is only a guess but there is certainly the bottom part of a crane there.

Someone might like to shed some information on this.

This might also explain why the current crane hasn't risen at all, even though the building has caught right up to it.

Fabian
April 17th, 2003, 12:12 PM
Lobana Today. The core is looking huge!!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pd6820c04e742d966eb9cc93ea71d4f25/fc530b9f.jpg

Noonos
April 17th, 2003, 02:20 PM
yeah that core is looking HUGE!

I dunno if the sites big enough but will there be a core crane for this one...because theres only gonna be one crane and a core crane might be easiest to operate.

climbing_crane
April 17th, 2003, 02:56 PM
I thought the crane already there would of been used. It's unusual to change. Actually I don't know what I'm talking about.

Muse
April 23rd, 2003, 10:09 PM
Yesterday when I made a slight detour to investigate the site, Lobana House has finally reached its 8 level base - from now, the only way is up! :)

Fabian
April 23rd, 2003, 10:17 PM
Do you mean the core is now eight levels above the ground?

Muse
April 23rd, 2003, 10:42 PM
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No Fabian, the core is a few levels above the the 8 storey Lobana base level of Lobana!

You should know this from the pics you have teken of the masive core!

Fabian
April 23rd, 2003, 11:11 PM
Wouldn't it mean that the floorplates have increased by at two or three levels? Thats pretty quick.

MrTall
April 23rd, 2003, 11:35 PM
Yeah, the photo suggests only 5 (maybe 6) levels above ground so I think Fabian's confusion is warranted.

Muse
April 23rd, 2003, 11:55 PM
Mr Tall-ster, the below pic was taken by Fabian on 17th April, so Fabian's confusion is not necessarily warrented!
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Lobana Today. The core is looking huge!!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pd6820c04e742d966eb9cc93ea71d4f25/fc530b9f.jpg</td></tr>
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Reiterating, my site visit was yesterday i.e. 23/4 - Labana's base is finally reaching the 8th level!

Fabian
April 24th, 2003, 11:20 PM
If it has gone up that quick, then that would have be a record for the fastest floor-rise in Australia.

climbing_crane
April 25th, 2003, 04:11 AM
More like the 5th or 6th level.

Muse
April 25th, 2003, 04:26 AM
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<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by climbing_crane </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>More like the 5th or 6th level.</td></tr>
</table>
No, we aren't talking about the pic taken by Fabian on 17th .... i only passed the site yesterday and the exterior pre-fab casing has just been started on the 8th base level.

finn
April 25th, 2003, 07:16 AM
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<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Fabian </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>If it has gone up that quick, then that would have be a record for the fastest floor-rise in Australia.</td></tr>
</table>

In that picture you took Fabian, it looks as though they were starting on the seventh level, so starting on the eighth level pre-fab wall a week or so later is no speed record!

climbing_crane
April 25th, 2003, 01:36 PM
I guess your right. It only looks like the 5th level because there are four squares there. I didn't take into account the other 3 behind all those signs so the 8th level would be spot on.

Fabian
April 25th, 2003, 01:47 PM
Did anyone see the news tonight on channels 7 and 10?

They were showing images of the march from Bathurst St and Lobana was in the background. I think I saw the new level.

finn
April 26th, 2003, 06:04 AM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>I guess your right. It only looks like the 5th level because there are four squares there. I didn't take into account the other 3 behind all those signs so the 8th level would be spot on.</td></tr>
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Yeah - actually, that picture is really good for showing how many levels are behind the hoardings, because of the people that are waiting at the crossing, at the base of the tower.

If you compare the height of the people to the height of the hoardings, you can see how many levels it would be.

Fabian
April 27th, 2003, 10:58 PM
Time for some comparison shots

October 26 2002

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/pa2bf81d56974b95b28dc16ba76d48f83/fd1f705f.jpg

The Core

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p9ba0426a0c2fbfb094120d871eb2cffd/fd1f7060.jpg

April 17 2003

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pd6820c04e742d966eb9cc93ea71d4f25/fc530b9f.jpg

It's progressed pretty well even though it might look like it has been going at a slow rate.

climbing_crane
April 28th, 2003, 01:37 AM
They have put up a new crane right next to the old one over the weekend. I saw it this morning. My prediction was spot on. I guess the podium levels are done and now the real tower begins. :dooby: :dooby: :dooby: :dooby: :dooby: :dooby:

Steve World Tower
April 28th, 2003, 03:18 AM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>They have put up a new crane right next to the old one over the weekend. I saw it this morning. My prediction was spot on. I guess the podium levels are done and now the real tower begins. :dooby: :dooby: :dooby: :dooby: :dooby: :dooby:</td></tr>
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Are you sure they have finished the podium levels ?I thought they had another 2 podium levels to go ?

climbing_crane
April 28th, 2003, 04:00 AM
I said that I guess the podium levels are done because of the nice looking new crane on site. Go back a few pages and you will see that I predicted this crane to pop up shortly.

CULWULLA
April 28th, 2003, 04:29 AM
i took some pix today of 2 cranes. ill post tonight. sites looking good!

Fabian
April 28th, 2003, 07:50 AM
Back at work already Culwulla?

tayser
April 28th, 2003, 09:28 AM
"Lo:banana:"

anyone else ever mistaken "Lobana" for "Lobanana" ?

must be me with that freaking smilie!

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carry on, looking good, get going! yee haw!

tays

Muse
April 28th, 2003, 10:49 AM
Aoolagies on my previuos posts saying the the base level was already reaching the 8th above ground - - it was actual fact the 7th level above ground

Spoke to an informative construction worker on the site this afternoon and he informed me that the above ground 8th level won't start to take shape for about the next 1 - 2 weeks.

Oh well - no harm done! http://dj.comtv.ru/smales/sad/nixweiss.gif

CULWULLA
April 28th, 2003, 02:31 PM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Back at work already Culwulla?</td></tr>
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yeah, back into it! already heaps of projects on. we have to amend Aspect top, build a new KENS, plus others.

Sydguy1
April 28th, 2003, 02:54 PM
Cul Is the redesign of Kens the Clock tower at the top of the tower or have other parts of the building been changed also or you don't know yet?:guns1:

CULWULLA
April 28th, 2003, 02:56 PM
heres a pic from today showing the twin cranes!!
the podium has reached full height of 6 storeys above ground with 1 more high parapet to be put up. this equals approx 1 floor high.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/191418.jpg

Heres a pic from george street which will be a great vantage point in couple of months when the core will riise above nearby bldgs.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/191419.jpg

Fabian
April 28th, 2003, 10:02 PM
Thats a massive crane! Is the shorter crane stayling?

climbing_crane
April 29th, 2003, 12:41 AM
Highly doubtful, I'd say impossible. The old crane didn't move at all yesterday and it has no room to move anyway so it's packing it's bags and shipping off elsewhere.

Steve World Tower
April 29th, 2003, 04:13 AM
WTF is a parapet ?

climbing_crane
April 29th, 2003, 05:58 AM
WTF are you going on about. :)

CULWULLA
April 29th, 2003, 06:27 AM
from today!


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p7cc290676ea67bc0c6f6158151bebf6e/fc401533.jpg



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p151849366f2adbd7fa5d4cfcfca18810/fc40152d.jpg

Steve World Tower
April 29th, 2003, 07:46 AM
Cool pics Culwulla.

What is a paraput ?

CULWULLA
April 29th, 2003, 07:52 AM
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<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Steve World Tower </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Cool pics Culwulla.

What is a paraput ?</td></tr>
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a parapet is just the wall at roof level. normally 1-2m high. Lobana will have a 3m one which will run along roof of podium so it will look like another storey.

Fabian
April 29th, 2003, 07:53 AM
It's becoming more visible by the week. Thats great.

I can see that glass has been placed on the first windows too.

CULWULLA
April 29th, 2003, 01:25 PM
enlarged pic from today.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/191522.jpg

tayser
April 30th, 2003, 04:26 PM
bumped so as thread wont get deleted

CULWULLA
May 1st, 2003, 08:33 AM
lots happening today on site.
this guy kept walking past>>http://www.widesmiles.org/blaise/worker4.gif

CULWULLA
May 2nd, 2003, 05:52 AM
view from town hall house today. core can be seen.


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/05/191777.jpg

Fabian
May 2nd, 2003, 07:14 AM
It looks like it is up to about the 12th level

CULWULLA
May 2nd, 2003, 08:08 AM
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the top of core is at level 8 above ground!

Fabian
May 2nd, 2003, 12:09 PM
What is the floor to ceiling height in Lobana. It looks big compared to Energy Australia. I'm sure Energy Australia has a higher one.

Muse
May 4th, 2003, 03:14 AM
It was good to see that the Lobana team was working on a Saturday (yesterday). The core was showing '21' including the 10 (?) floors underground. So that would mean the core is up to 11 (?) above. They continued to fit windows into the lower floors as I watched.

CULWULLA
May 4th, 2003, 03:32 AM
wow 11 already? doesnt look it.
@fabian, the floors on Lobana are only 3m per floor while Energy blg are 3.65m.

Muse
May 4th, 2003, 03:44 AM
The only reason I knew was via the lazy way - the number '21' was painted on the core on the underside of the corebox. ;)

No guesswork, I repeat, no guesswork was involved! :D

Fabian
May 4th, 2003, 04:21 AM
So you can now see the floor markings from Bathurst St?

This core is now taking off!!!

CULWULLA
May 5th, 2003, 07:32 AM
well today i contacted Meriton and talked to foreman about lobanas schedule and current height. he said the core box is at level 23 or (21 exposed -as Museumb indicated) . or 13 above grd!
i took pic today which ill add later!
The foreman said that in 10 days the core will start to rise and jump which will be every 10 days.
i checked my plans of lobana ,and level 23 ceiling (top of corebox) is 43m above grd.so it already nearly 150ft!!
pic i took last week.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/05/191777.jpg

Its hard to believe Lobana is going to be exact same height as Gold coasts Giant -the 137m/47 level Peninsula which is still the 2nd highest on the coast!


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/178421.jpg

CULWULLA
May 5th, 2003, 11:35 AM
todays pic showing level 21 under corebox!
http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/05/192352.jpg

Muse
May 9th, 2003, 07:09 PM
Passed the site yesterday @ about 2.00PM & the 8th base level is finally being constructed with the external moulds being apparent on the Pitt Street side. The core box is already rising and is it almost half the size of the Energy Oz Scraper dirrectly next door.

Fabian
May 9th, 2003, 11:30 PM
What level is the core up to?

Fabian
May 10th, 2003, 11:36 AM
lobana is now visible from Sydney Tower as shown in this picture by Gargenisis

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p1a7ce5c7aa96d53457b4e821917f9f0f/fc2e2b8a.jpg

Gargarensis
May 10th, 2003, 12:59 PM
In my pic looking south from Sydney Tower, how high up will the completed Lobana Tower go up the face of the brown building right behind it (Waterboard Bldg)?

Fabian
May 10th, 2003, 01:04 PM
Waterboard building is about 110 metres tall. It will go up another ten levels or 30 metres higher.

CULWULLA
May 19th, 2003, 05:19 AM
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<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Gargarensis </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>In my pic looking south from Sydney Tower, how high up will the completed Lobana Tower go up the face of the brown building right behind it (Waterboard Bldg)?</td></tr>
</table>
The Waterboard rises 103m, Lobana will be 137m. Energy Australia is 99m.

CULWULLA
May 19th, 2003, 05:28 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Fabian </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>What level is the core up to?</td></tr>
</table>
same as 2 weeks ago due to rain. should move this week.

climbing_crane
May 20th, 2003, 08:35 AM
Ha. I didn't miss anything at all. Beaut.

Fabian
May 23rd, 2003, 10:32 PM
Lobana yesterday

Core still at level 22 (level 12)

On the bottom left you can see the first balcony. Very tiny.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/pa5d4737a2a054d659b4339b685d102af/fc17f0fd.jpg

Fabian
May 23rd, 2003, 10:32 PM
.

CULWULLA
May 24th, 2003, 02:32 AM
i asked the site guys last week about next core rise and they said next week!

CULWULLA
May 28th, 2003, 06:08 AM
Core rise today! now lv 23 exposed (25 total) -or 15 lv above ground or 50m high.

up two levels from last rise!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126lobanacore.jpg

from kent st carpk.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126lobanafromkentcarpk.jpg

Fabian
May 28th, 2003, 09:51 AM
Great to see Lobana back on track. The weather has been rather kind to us.

And it's becoming more noticable that they are cladding as they go along, meaning the tower should be completed much sooner than we think.

climbing_crane
May 28th, 2003, 01:29 PM
I noticed Lobana went off the rocks a little there. It was a temporary cocaine addiction I believe. However I can report it's been rehabilitated and is now full steam ahead.

climbing_crane
May 30th, 2003, 12:34 PM
Noticed tonight that the core box has changed somewhat. Meritons name is all over it and it looks much better. Someone should post a new pic I think.

hk-star
May 30th, 2003, 02:05 PM
You can see the low-floor balconies .. they're tiny! are they going to get bigger up higher? ridiculously small.

Oh, and I received a mail from the council about a DA to place huge glowing Meriton signs + logos on all four sides of the completed tower. I think it would look very tacky, especially the blue+yellow "M plus crown" logo. If Meriton is going into the serviced apt branding business, they should come up with a better logo!

I wouldn't mind white, but the blue and yellow crown logo .. yuk

hk

Fabian
May 31st, 2003, 12:04 AM
The Meriton hoardings are now on the core as it becomes more visible by the day from George St

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p76567476616d5cc744c59bd351f7356f/fc0b0572.jpg