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Kansas City Chiefs

1x Champion:
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Actually I should've named this thread 'Truman Sports Complex, Kansas City'. Both the Arrowhead stadium and the Kauffman Stadium can be seen on the photos. From Wikipedia:

The Truman Sports Complex was built by the government of Jackson County and managed by the Jackson County Sports Complex Authority.[2] The current complex design was arrived after other plans were discarded[3] and called for separate side-by-side stadiums[4] with a mutual rolling roof. However, the roof was never built due to cost.[3] The complex was revolutionary in an age when stadiums were built as big multiuse venues. The design established the reputation of architect Kivett & Myers. In 1975 the firm merged with Kansas City architect firm HNTB and went on to design stadiums including Giants Stadium, RCA Dome, INVESCO Field at Mile High, and Ralph Wilson Stadium.

It's even worse placement for Kauffman.

And they still have some parking shortage issues. Makes me glad I can catch the train to Vikings games

Arrowhead stadium to me is one of the best. Who cares about parking or any of the minor stuff. Like the design, and all around a great stadium!

Not a big fan of the massive parking lots around a lot of stadiums but I understand people have to drive to the game because of the lack of good public transit to a lot of areas.

Not a big fan of the massive parking lots around a lot of stadiums but I understand people have to drive to the game because of the lack of good public transit to a lot of areas.

Wouldn't it have been more sensible to build the stadium where there is good public transport in place then? People are practically forced to go to this stadium by car. Moreover, don't people want to enjoy themselves before and after a game in Kansas City? There seems to be absolutely nothing in place here for people to enjoy themselves.

I also don't understand why American stadiums seem to have a lack of roofs. It's not like Kansas City has such a nice climate or anything, so I don't get why they dont spend some bucks on putting a fancy roof overthose stands!

Oh dear, not this again...

Americans don't like fancy roofs and need big parking lots for tailgating.

Oh dear, not this again...

Americans don't like fancy roofs and need big parking lots for tailgating.

Your posts are always so constructive Quintana :lol:.

I know Americans don't like fancy roofs, but I wonder why they don't. I mean, what's so fun about sitting in the rain or in the wind.

And most stadiums in the USA don't seem to need such large parking lots to facilitate those tailgating parties, this one is really extreme. I also wonder whether tailgating parties are popular because there are no facilities around the stadiums, or whether there are no facilities around the stadiums because of those silly tailgaters.

Is it true that there are 2 Kansas City ( one in Kansas State and one in Missouri ) ?
The Kansas Wizards ( MLS ) is the soccer team of Kansas City of the Kansas State or fo Kansas City of Missouri State ?

Is it true that there are 2 Kansas City ( one in Kansas State and one in Missouri ) ?
The Kansas Wizards ( MLS ) is the soccer team of Kansas City of the Kansas State or fo Kansas City of Missouri State ?

Yep, that's true. If I'm not mistaken, the Wizards are from Kansas state. Arrowhead stadium on the other hand is located in Missouri state. Both cities form one urban area though.

Are you sure that Arrowhead is in Missouri State ? I think that it is in Kansas State .

The Wizards played in Arrowhead up to and including this year. Next season, they'll be in some bogus baseball stadium (yikes) in Kansas City, KS until their SSS is finished.

Isn't the parking lot for Dodger Stadium (Los Angeles) even bigger?

Are you sure that Arrowhead is in Missouri State ? I think that it is in Kansas State .

It's in Missouri, just off of Interstate 70.

Americans don't like roofs, because American football was meant to be played outdoors. The weather conditions are just part of the game, and part of the experience. And yes, most football stadiums the parking lots do need to be that big for tailgaiting. Go to most any college town or NFL stadium on gameday and you'll see why. Tailgaiting is HUGE. Again, part of the experience, and it's a great all-day one! It's ten times better than sitting in some bar. NFL tickets are hard to find in most places, and a lot of people go just to tailgate.

Tailgating is what we do, and we need space to do it. There is public transport to every stadium in the country if you want to use it, even ones out in the middle of nowhere.

Pretty every NFL stadium will have retractable roof. I understand if Detroit has one, but why Arizona and Houston need one? I guess some people in the US don´t think that the football was supposed to be played in rain and snow no matter what.

Pretty soon every NFL stadium will have retractable roof. I understand if Detroit has one, but why Arizona and Houston need one? I guess some people in the US don´t think that the football was supposed to be played in rain and snow no matter what.

I like the stadiums but the parking is too much. Couldn't they have made multi-level parking? :lol:

It's in Missouri, just off of Interstate 70.

Americans don't like roofs, because American football was meant to be played outdoors. The weather conditions are just part of the game, and part of the experience. And yes, most football stadiums the parking lots do need to be that big for tailgaiting. Go to most any college town or NFL stadium on gameday and you'll see why. Tailgaiting is HUGE. Again, part of the experience, and it's a great all-day one! It's ten times better than sitting in some bar. NFL tickets are hard to find in most places, and a lot of people go just to tailgate.

Beautifull answer, specialy the fat part.

Pretty soon every NFL stadium will have retractable roof. I understand if Detroit has one, but why Arizona and Houston need one? I guess some people in the US don´t think that the football was supposed to be played in rain and snow no matter what.

Phoenix U in Arizona has a retractable roof because of the heat (september and october games still have a lot of heat)., and in Houston the rain and moisture in the air make the roof a must.

Pretty soon every NFL stadium will have retractable roof. I understand if Detroit has one, but why Arizona and Houston need one? I guess some people in the US don´t think that the football was supposed to be played in rain and snow no matter what.

Detroit's roof is not retractable. As for every stadium soon having them, don't hold your breath.

An open roof is an advantage to many NFL teams in colder climates, such as the Chiefs.

Pretty soon every NFL stadium will have retractable roof. I understand if Detroit has one, but why Arizona and Houston need one? I guess some people in the US don´t think that the football was supposed to be played in rain and snow no matter what.

Yep, and real fans call those people pu**ies. :lol:

The day they put a roof over Soldier Field (Chicago) or Lambeau Field (Green Bay) is the same day hell will freeze over.

Yep, and real fans call those people pu**ies. :lol:

The day they put a roof over Soldier Field (Chicago) or Lambeau Field (Green Bay) is the same day hell will freeze over.

The Yuppie types here in Charlotte want a new stadium with a roof...In Charlotte.

I don't like where stadiums are going these days.

Yep, and real fans call those people pu**ies. :lol:

The day they put a roof over Soldier Field (Chicago) or Lambeau Field (Green Bay) is the same day hell will freeze over.

godforbid. Unfortunaley, there are already two "pu**ies" in the NFL North. Those Minnesota and Detroit fans should be ashamed of themselves.

yall are funny

i wanna see yall northerners play football and any other sport for that matter down here in Texas or out in Arizona when its 100 degrees not even including the humidity!

i understand that football was ment to play in the rain and snow, heck i luv playing when it is raining and freezing, it makes it more memorable and makes you wanna work harder for the win.

so dont say were p****ies down here

cuz were not !

yall are funny

i wanna see yall northerners play football and any other sport for that matter down here in Texas or out in Arizona when its 100 degrees not even including the humidity!

i understand that football was ment to play in the rain and snow, heck i luv playing when it is raining and freezing, it makes it more memorable and makes you wanna work harder for the win.

so dont say were p****ies down here

cuz were not !

I dont think you are p****ies, but Dallas isnt THAT hot during the NFL season. Those temperatures are pretty comfortable in my opinion. Phoenix is much hotter during the fall/winter months.

I just dont like the idea of an indoor football game. Of course, thats based on me watching games in places like the Metrodome, RCA, Superdome, Edward Jones, and RCA. The newer indoor fields are a bit nicer, such as Phoenix, Reliant, and most likely, the new Boys' stadium.

i understand wat your saying i dont like those stadiums either, i was commenting on Texas football in general, shouldnt have done that, lol, my apologies.

lol

I bet the roof will be open a lot of the time. It's only really hot the first month or two. The last couple of months are pretty nice.

i understand wat your saying i dont like those stadiums either, i was commenting on Texas football in general, shouldnt have done that, lol, my apologies.

lol

no problem!

I know that they would pack the house if there was no roof and it was freezing in Dallas!

If you've got room for it, why not make big parking lots? I see nothing wrong with it. Especially if it's in a place where it j ust isn't viable to have public transportation, and you've gotta factor in the tailgaiting thing like others have mentioned.

A: Dont be fooled into thinking that Arrowhead is a state of the art facility in the US. It was finished in 1972 when sprawl was at its worst in the US and the inner city was dieing. Stadiums built recently (i.e. Qwest Field in Seattle, Ford Field in Detroit, Heinz in Pittsburgh) are starting to trend more towards being incorporated into the urban setting of the cities they are in. Still not the rule, but a trend nonetheless:

My favorite pic of Qwest Field:
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B: As far as being considered a "pussy" for wanting a roof over at least the stands (like most euro football stadiums and the old Texas stadium) is like calling someone a pussy when he demands his luxury convertable have a top. Of course he could probably live with a car with no roof, but after shelling out the dough for something that nice.... you might want to keep yourself dry when you use it (same thing for the $500m-$750m stadiums taxpayers finance nowadays).

C: Tailgating is fun, but I think what most people want is the party before the game. With food and booze everywhere. Europeans do it too, just not out of the backs of cars. How bout setting up a food bazzare in the plaza in front of the stadium rather than everyone having to set up the barbecue out of their cars?

^the whole pussy issue is joking most of the time. Cold climate fans take pride in their ability to weather below freezing temperatures and blizzards. Probally the most you will hear about this issue is within the NFC North. Fans in Green Bay (who play in a stadium nicknamed the "Frozen Tundra") and Chicago use this issue to mock rivals Minnesota and Detroit.

And tailgating is a tradition. Its apart of the game and history in the NFL, NCAA, and MLB (in some cities). Hanging out on the plaza just isnt the same as outside your car. Im sure stadiums would have a problem with people using beer bongs outside the door. :)

The Yuppie types here in Charlotte want a new stadium with a roof...In Charlotte.

I don't like where stadiums are going these days.

There is nothing wrong with the current stadium...They must have a surplus of tax dollars many northern cities don't enjoy, we spend all our money plowing snow and fixing frost heaved roads :)

There is nothing wrong with the current stadium...They must have a surplus of tax dollars many northern cities don't enjoy, we spend all our money plowing snow and fixing frost heaved roads :)

BoA Stadium is privately financed. The Richardson family owns it. It's not going away anytime soon, most people in the area adore the place (other than the Panthers current record there) it's right uptown, and now people from the burbs can get their with the LYNX train.

I honestly have no idea where we keep getting tax money, the tax base is under 700,000 people and half the big companies don't have to pay city tax since they moved here. The roads need lights, there's a big fight brewing over state money, ect.

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they are currently remodeling both stadiums of Truman Sports Complex at a cost of $350 million for Arrowhead and $250 million for Kauffman and thank god the roof plan was rejected. And yes I was there at the final home game at Arrowhead last month when it was -12 F wind chill. And who are these people complaining about the parking lot size. Do you realize the region doesn't have mass transit besides a few city bus lines that people who can afford Chiefs tickets aren't going to ride anyways.

The original construction plan included a roof that would roll over to each stadium. The roof was again proposed for the current renovations but it didn't succed.

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And don't be to jelous of our most extreme, worlds largest HD video board.
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The most needed thing from the renovation of arrowhead is replacing the terrible video boards and scoreboards around the stadium. I love the shape of the stadium seating so I'm glad its staying the same but everything else is being gutted and replaced like the suites, bathrooms, concession stands, LED boards, ect.
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Pretty every NFL stadium will have retractable roof. I understand if Detroit has one, but why Arizona and Houston need one? I guess some people in the US don´t think that the football was supposed to be played in rain and snow no matter what.

Stadiums in Arizona and Houston have retractable roofs so they have be used for other events. Both stadiums will host games in the NCAA Tournament and Houston will host the Final Four in 2010. The stadium in Arizona has the field roll out so they can host conventions and other events on the floor there. The Alamodome in San Antonio was built partly to lure a NFL team, but also for the Spurs and conventions. The roof isn't for football as much as it is for the other events there.

Current configuration:

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Failed proposal to enclose Arrowhead stadium:

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Current renovation:

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Cost of renovations to be around $350 million US.

I'm not too impressed, although the original stadium design is excellent for American football.

I know that the Truman Sports Complex never gets outdated, but if they are building 2 floors of luxury suites on top of the 3rd tier on one side, I would have had a similar structure built on the other side.

I love the renovation. I do agree, the suite boxes should mirror on the other side of the stadium. I wish they would do something about those god awful score boards.

nice, but the score boards are pretty ugly
i like the proposal to enclose the ground

those roof proposals are hideous

yea the rennovations make sense to me.

The renovations for both Arrowhead and Kauffman are fantastic. For those complaining about the asymmetric nature of the "skyboxes," there's no reason to build another structure of that scope in this economy.

Given funds and demand for expansion, I'm quite certain that would be a logical next step.

Arrowhead is one of the top 5 stadiums in the NFL. Bar none.

Bar Paul Brown, Heinz Field, Soldier Field Lambeau, Invesco Field, Reliant Stadium, and maybe Cleveland but that is my take. It's cetainly a good one, but I really don't like suites and club up top. I don't mind asymmetry, but that tower really ruins the exterior.

When does construction start

Bar Paul Brown, Heinz Field, Soldier Field Lambeau, Invesco Field, Reliant Stadium, and maybe Cleveland but that is my take. It's cetainly a good one, but I really don't like suites and club up top. I don't mind asymmetry, but that tower really ruins the exterior.

Arrowhead never really had much of an exterior to begin with.

When does construction start

About a year and a half ago. :D

Arrowhead never really had much of an exterior to begin with.

No it hasn't, and I like the lower portion of the renovation, it's clean, doesn't disrupt the look and is going to provide all the amenities. It's just the upper portion and the piers that it's on is going to look terrible from the surrounding area.

we need photos of construction

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not a very good picture that i took with my phone but you can see the steel structure of the future suites on top of the opposite side of the stadium is already in place
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I just love the shape of the Arrowhead. Glad it isn't changing too much.

Stadium Webcam: http://www.kcchiefs.com/arrowheadcam/

New oval video boards and ribbon boards between the decks are up and running.

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I think seattle has something to say about that.

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I was going to say, how many NFL teams claim to have the loudest stadium? I think they need to do a study on this and claim a real winner. I would assume the title would go to a stadium with a roof, since it would trap and reflect alot of crowd noise? Anyway, i like most of the renovation, except the new video boards. They are an upgrade from the ugly old ones, but i still hate the oval shape. I am also glad they didnt go through with that horrible plan for the movable roof structure. This is a great outdoor stadium and should stay that way. It would be nice to see some more pictures of the exterior to see what the new facade is looking like.

I was going to say, how many NFL teams claim to have the loudest stadium? I think they need to do a study on this and claim a real winner. I would assume the title would go to a stadium with a roof, since it would trap and reflect alot of crowd noise? Anyway, i like most of the renovation, except the new video boards. They are an upgrade from the ugly old ones, but i still hate the oval shape. I am also glad they didnt go through with that horrible plan for the movable roof structure. This is a great outdoor stadium and should stay that way. It would be nice to see some more pictures of the exterior to see what the new facade is looking like.
The rolling roof would have only been used to prevent rainouts at Kauffman and enable Arrowhead to host the Super Bowl and Final Four. Otherwise it would've sat in between the two stadiums as a canopy.

The only thing cool about that roof proposal would be seeing a final four in Arrowhead.

Arrowhead is a good stadium to see a game in. I love how close the seats are to the playing field. I think the design looks cool too. Kauffman Stadium is one of my fav. AL parks too. I love the outfield fountain.

Finished?
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What's the big black box then? As it looks so silly plonked on top of the scoreboard.

What's the big black box then? As it looks so silly plonked on top of the scoreboard.

PA system, I guess. They're usually located in the endzone and with the videoboards.

I love the head.

Finished?

Not yet. The scoreboards and video boards were up last season, the new suite levels, new restrooms and concession stands, ect. are still being finished for next season. Should be complete by end of summer.
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^^

The first event at the "new" Arrowhead will be the Wizards against Manchester United on July 25.

That's gonna be like the T-Bones playing the Yankees.

This could get ugly...

Photos of the finished renovation to Arrowhead prior to the Kansas City Wizards v Manchester United game.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/23/2102814/kansas-city-chiefs-unveil-new.html

This is the "new" Arrowhead? if is this why its so poor the remodelation where´s the details, i see the same stadium only whit a new sector but i thing in another kind of remodelation

This is the "new" Arrowhead? if is this why its so poor the remodelation where´s the details, i see the same stadium only whit a new sector but i thing in another kind of remodelation
It's the stuff that you don't see in the exterior shots (except for the new club section).

The concourses, food stands, bathrooms, signage and VIP seating areas were all refurbished, the utilities (plumbing, HVAC, electrical) were all improved, plus the surrounding landscape was spruced-up, among other things.

Like Arrowhead. Always thought they should have added club areas above the endzone stand, creating and even bowl a the top. That would set them up for the eventually retractable roof they seem to want to add in the future.

This is the "new" Arrowhead? if is this why its so poor the remodelation where´s the details, i see the same stadium only whit a new sector but i thing in another kind of remodelation

pretty much everything is brand new except for the seating bowl. They spent $375 million on this remodel.

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The first event at the "new" Arrowhead will be the Wizards against Manchester United on July 25.

That's gonna be like the T-Bones playing the Yankees.

This could get ugly...

Oops. Good thing they play these games on the field, rather than on paper only.

I'm the enemy (Broncos fan) and even I can appreciate what a truly special place Arrowhead is. Excellent job renovating this classic; let's hope it lasts another 40 years and then some.

Kansas City Wizards 2-1 Manchester United

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pretty much everything is brand new except for the seating bowl. They spent $375 million on this remodel.

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Obviously I see the details of the remodelation but i expecting a change of the all structure of the stadium like the soldier field.
Even so I like the stadium and always is good one remodelation.

Obviously I see the details of the remodelation but i expecting a change of the all structure of the stadium like the soldier field.
Even so I like the stadium and always is good one remodelation.

There was nothing wrong with the seating bowl, so no need to fix what ain't broke, am I right? :cheers:

It's got a googi style to it. I like it. It matches the original parts of the stadium.

Did they put all new seats in the stadium with part of that $375 million. The pics above look alot reder' (not even a word) than the old ones?

I thought the Wizards MLS game vs Man U woudl have drawn more people. Aren't the Wizards doing very well in KC now ??

Is this completed?

Yes.

Arrowhead Stadium was built in 1972. It is home to the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs. In 2010 the 375 million dollar renovation was completed.

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My favorite NFL stadium, one of the most unique:
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Failed "Rolling Roof" proposal to be shared between the KC Chiefs at Arrowhead, and the Kansas City Royals at Kauffmann Stadium:
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Yea, I like the way the stadium is curved......like an upside down arch.

I love this stadium. It probably has the best tailgating scene in the NFL. Why didn't they go with the rolling roof? Either way there is something special about this place...

Why didn't they go with the rolling roof?

Money, taxpayers voted it down. The only reason they proposed the roof was to get a superbowl which we will be getting anyways without the roof from what I've heard.

Money, taxpayers voted it down. The only reason they proposed the roof was to get a superbowl which we will be getting anyways without the roof from what I've heard.

Where did you hear that?

There was already a thread

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=549293

Where did you hear that?
I was at a chiefs practice a few months ago and overheard a conversation from someone that works at the stadium talking about how they were hoping to build a horizon level above the northside of the stadium to match the new southside horizon level before they host the superbowl in 2015. (just what I overheard so there is no real credibility to the story but I did hear that straight from a stadium employees mouth)

Got a few pictures to add from this years Border Showdown between Kansas and Missouri. Announced attendance was only 55,788. That means 25,637 open seats.

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Yea, I like the way the stadium is curved......like an upside down arch.

And look how crowded the fans still are since Chiefs fans are so obese.

:lol:

Jenny Craig or Nurti-System for the fatties.

And look how crowded the fans still are since Chiefs fans are so obese.

:lol:

Jenny Craig or Nurti-System for the fatties.
Not cool, man.

how they do in winter conditions? it is horrible to watch a match freezing ourself? no?

how they do in winter conditions? it is horrible to watch a match freezing ourself? no?

Aren't matches in Europe played in the cold all the time?

how they do in winter conditions? it is horrible to watch a match freezing ourself? no?

Hell no!

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Great stadium and nice photos

how high is the last row?

Check out the size of that car park. :eek: Seat pattern always been that colour?

Check out the size of that car park. :eek:
and they still have the nerve to charge $30/car :ohno:

good thing my dad's job is about a 15-20 minute walk from the stadium so we just park there

Seat pattern always been that colour?
yup -- ever since 1973

Kauffman's seats used to be the roughly same color until 1999

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/KC_Royals_Stadium.JPG

(the middle tier was yellow)

and they still have the nerve to charge $30/car :ohno:

Jerry Jones charges $70 for parking at his castle. So you've got it nice.:tongue:

Jerry Jones charges $70 for parking at his castle. So you've got it nice.:tongue:

I just park in the Wal-Mart across the street.

Have the Chiefs and Royals ever had a game at the same time? I always wonder about that when there are stadiums close together, like KC or Philadelphia. I'm sure they go out of their way to ensure that they play on seperate days, but I can imagine there being some sort of quirk one time where both teams are playing at roughly the same time and day.

If not at the same time, how often would they both play on the same day? Like a day baseball game and a Sunday night football game.

^With Philly, theres a subway service to the stadiums.

Have the Chiefs and Royals ever had a game at the same time? I always wonder about that when there are stadiums close together, like KC or Philadelphia. I'm sure they go out of their way to ensure that they play on seperate days, but I can imagine there being some sort of quirk one time where both teams are playing at roughly the same time and day.

If not at the same time, how often would they both play on the same day? Like a day baseball game and a Sunday night football game.
Not at the same time, of course, but the two venues have hosted events on the same day a handful of times.

I attended a Royals game the afternoon before a college game at Arrowhead: the Eddie Robinson Classic, played between Iowa State and Florida State on August 24, 2002.

The Royals faced the Minnesota Twins earlier in the day, and I learned pretty quickly that ISU fans --at least the ones that came to KC -- also happen to be Twins fans; there had to have been close to 10,000 of them there, and they were considerably louder and more boisterous than our fans (as is often the case when a big-ticket opponent visits The K).

Chuck Knoblauch, that year a Royal outfielder and longtime Twin second baseman who bitterly divorced his former organization (demanded a trade) in 1997 and spent the prior four seasons as a New York Yankee, was showered with a torrent of boos in a pinch-hit plate appearance in the bottom of the 9th.

That night, ISU staged a furious 2nd-half comeback led by Seneca Wallace which fell just short at the FSU goal line:

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I was disappointed with myself afterward that I didn't stick around for the football game -- I thought it had sold out when, in actuality, only about 55,000 people showed up.

Jerry Jones charges $70 for parking at his castle. So you've got it nice.:tongue:

This is why I like having the Vikings in downtown, I spend $3.50 to get there and back on the train, which with gameday traffic isn't much slower. No tailgating but $70 for parking is robbery, hell $30 (which is about as bad as we see in the downtown lots) is obscene when you think about it.

Have the Chiefs and Royals ever had a game at the same time? I always wonder about that when there are stadiums close together, like KC or Philadelphia. I'm sure they go out of their way to ensure that they play on seperate days, but I can imagine there being some sort of quirk one time where both teams are playing at roughly the same time and day.

If not at the same time, how often would they both play on the same day? Like a day baseball game and a Sunday night football game.

Last season during week 1 of the NFL, the Chiefs had a monday night game at 9pm and the Royals played a day game at 2pm, they had a promotion where you could buy tickets to both games and park in one lot,after the baseball game they kicked everyone out of the other parking lots before the football crowds were able to park in them.
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/09/10/2214548/mondays-rare-double-stadium-events.html

This rolling roof idea, it looks like they would still have gaps that would allow the elements inside? If you have big gaps on the sides that allows in the cold air, what good would the roof be?

^^^^ Yeah I thought the same thing when I first heard about the rolling roof proposal. That's why it's good that they wont be doing the rolling roof proposal.

This rolling roof idea, it looks like they would still have gaps that would allow the elements inside? If you have big gaps on the sides that allows in the cold air, what good would the roof be?
I think there would've been heaters under the roof and panels that would open and close.