^^Actually Grudziądz population is only 85 000 today.

Source??? I have seen many and everywhere was about 100 000 (+- 2 000)

I have miss something? few thousand left yesterday or what ? ;)

Any info on the Serbian cities?

There is some on Belgrade and Novi Sad
a few pages back but what about the other cities?

^^Banja Luka 85 million €

^^ What about Nis?

^^Banja Luka 85 million €

Banja Luka is a bosnian city :|

btw Sarajevo city budget is ~12 million € and Sarajevo canton budget is ~435 million €

^^Banja Luka 85 million €
What is the population of Banja Luka?

^^Banja Luka 85 million €


:lol::lol::lol: Maybe you didn't understand the question, he asked about Serbian cities.

I thought BL was Swedish :)

Banja Luka is a bosnian city :|

btw Sarajevo city budget is ~12 million € and Sarajevo canton budget is ~435 million €

I don't get it. Isn't Sarajevo city ~ 450,000?

I think that depends on laws and levels of centralization.

Yeap, the world is more and more slipping to the EURO.

Yet, we should agree here in which currency we post city budgets. If you do not like the EURO, fine, we can use USD, but we should stick to a single currency, cause it won't make sense otherwise. :cheers:

Ok, let's use USD :)

^^Actually Grudziądz population is only 85 000 today.
Grudziądz
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/timeline/cea422fac85bb9892e0c13ea5108dc9f.png

2007 Moscow Final Executed Budget
Incomes: 956 196,3 mln p. / ~$37,5bln (~10% increased to midyear reviewed budget)
Expenditures: 925 655,6 mln p. / ~$36,3bln

Warsaw, city budget 2008 = 4,5 bln $, 3.1 bln euro

Bucharest city budget for 2008: 1.4 billion EURO or 2 billion $ (PS: without taxes from real estate transactions, which have been taken to the central budget this year :bash:; this is valid for ALL cities)

Other cities:

Timisoara: 257 million EUR (300.000 people)
Iasi: 260 million EUR (320.000 people)
Cluj: 200 million EUR (310.000 people)
Sibiu: 110 million EUR (170.000 people)
Galati: 110 million EUR (300.000 people)
Ploiesti: 114 million EUR (230.000 people)
Brasov: 142 million EUR (280.000 people)
Pitesti: 83 million EUR (170.000 people)
Craiova: 126 million EUR (300.000 people)
Arad: 90 million EUR (170.000 people)
Bacau: 52 million EUR (170.000 people)

^^ This means that local budgets for this year are on average 30% lower than in 2007. This is a move of the government to fund the pension budget which will be heavily affected by the 45% hike in pension rights overall 2008. :bash:

What is the population of Banja Luka?
around 200.000

Bucharest city budget for 2008: 1.4 billion EURO or 2 billion $ (PS: without taxes from real estate transactions, which have been taken to the central budget this year :bash:; this is valid for ALL cities)

Other cities:

Timisoara: 257 million EUR (300.000 people)
Iasi: 260 million EUR (320.000 people)
Cluj: 200 million EUR (310.000 people)
Sibiu: 110 million EUR (170.000 people)
Galati: 110 million EUR (300.000 people)
Ploiesti: 114 million EUR (230.000 people)
Brasov: 142 million EUR (280.000 people)
Pitesti: 83 million EUR (170.000 people)
Craiova: 126 million EUR (300.000 people)
Arad: 90 million EUR (170.000 people)
Bacau: 52 million EUR (170.000 people)

Constanta is off the chart because I couldn't find its budget. Maybe someone else can help me out here. :cheers:

2008
Some Russian cities

Unlike Moscow and S-Petersburg figures, all others are the "pure municipal" budgets.
Even looking at the very undervalued rouble the figures are very small.

Moscow - 1.170 bln rub ($47.3 bln) $4530 per capita
Sankt Peterburg - 323,7 bln rub ($13.1 bln) $2866 per capita
Novosibirsk - 30 bln rub ($1.21 bln) $870 per capita
Ekaterinburg - 21,6 bln rub ($870 mln) $662 per capita
Krasnoyarsk - 20,4 bln rub ($830 mln) $895 per capita
Surgut - 17,0 bln rub ($688 mln) $2370 per capita -- "Oil"
Perm' - 16,1 bln rub ($652 mln) $658 per capita
Rostov-na-Donu - 15.4 bln rub ($623 mln) $593 per capita
Nizhnii Novgorod - 14,8 bln rub ($600 mln) $469 per capita
Tyumen' - 14,3 bln rub ($578 mln) $1050 per capita
Krasnodar - 13.2 bln rub ($534 mln) $753 per capita
Yaroslavl' - 12,9 bln rub ($522 mln) $864 per capita
Noril'sk - 12,0 bln rub ($485 mln) $2320 per capita -- "copper, gold, palladium etc"
Omsk - 11,8 bln rub ($477 mln) $420 per capita
Chelyabinsk - 11,6 bln rub ($469 mln) $430 per capita
Irkutsk - 11,5 bln rub ($465 mln) $809 per capita
Kazan' - 11 bln rub ($445 mln) $400 per capita
Kemerovo - 10,7 bln rub ($433 mln) $833 per capita
Samara - 10,6 bln rub ($429 mln) $376 per capita
Novokuznetsk - 10,0 bln rub ($404 mln) $721 per capita
Khabarovsk - 9,8 bln rub ($396 mln) $686 per capita
Ufa - 9,6 bln rub ($388 mln) $380 per capita
Voronezh - 9.1 bln rub ($368 mln) $438 per capita
Novyi Urengoi - 7,4 bln rub ($300 mln) $2750 per capita -- "Gas"
Tol'yatti - 6,8 bln rub ($275 mln) $390 per capita
Lipetsk - 6,6 bln rub ($267 mln) $531 per capita
Murmansk - 6,6 bln rub ($267 mln) $842 per capita
Saratov - 6.5 bln rub ($263 mln) $313 per capita
Tula - 6,4 bln rub ($259 mln) $514 per capita
Arkhangel'sk - 5,8 bln rub ($235 mln) $675 per capita
Vladivostok - 5,7 bln rub ($230 mln) $396 per capita
Orenburg - 5,7 bln rub ($230 mln) $434 per capita
Barnaul - 5,5 bln rub ($222 mln) $370 per capita
Tomsk - 5,1 bln rub ($206 mln) $418 per capita
Komsomol'sk-na-Amure - 4,9 bln rub ($198 mln) $731 per capita
Yakutsk - 4,5 bln rub ($182 mln) $743 per capita
Khanty-Mansiisk - 4,4 bln rub ($178 mln) $2815 per capita -- "Oil"
Syktyvkar - 3,0 bln rub ($121 mln) $528 per capita
Biysk - 2,3 bln rub ($93 mln) $417 per capita
Al'met'evsk - 2,0 bln rub ($81 mln) $570 per capita

Only Tri Cites over one billions $^^:ohno:

still pretty good comparing to other EE cities...

1 USD = 2,4580PLN
1 EUR = 3,5905
Warsaw City 1,703 ,000 11 ,3 bln PLN - 4, 600 bln $ 3150 bln Euro

Katowice Agglomeration,Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union,2.1 million (2007)1,304 km² 3-4 bln $
Katowice City 314 500 1, 3 bln PLN- 527 million USD

Wroclaw City 635 000 3,23 bln PLN- 1,314bln $ 900 million Euro
Krakow City 755 000 3,2bln bln PLN - 1,301 bln $ 892million Euro
Gdansk,Gdynia,Sopot- 751 000 (Tricity)- 3,1 bln PLN 1,26 bln$
863million Euro
Poznan City 570 000 - 2,47 bln PLN- 1,005 bln $688million Euro
Lodz City 755 000 2,4 bln PLN- 982 million USD
669million Euro
Szczecin City 410 000 1,422 blnPLN 578 million USD
396million Euro

Białystok City 300 000 1,3 blnPLN 529 million USD 362million Euro
Bydgoszcz City 364 000 1,277 bln PLN 519 million USD355million Euro
Lublin City 353 483 1,178 blnPLN 480 million USD328million Euro

Is it so necessary to start Russia vs Poland crap again? It was said - it's not very accurate to compare prosperity in a raw USD, instead of ID.

Before comparing any budgets, we must know exactly what it covers. The chart above shows the municipal budgets, meaning that money from the federal budget is not counted. Afaik this means that expenses on things like healthcare, many social expenditures, police, education and some others expenses that would in other countries be in their municipal budget, are not included.

Before comparing any budgets, we must know exactly what it covers. The chart above shows the municipal budgets, meaning that money from the federal budget is not counted. Afaik this means that expenses on things like healthcare, many social expenditures, police, education and some others expenses that would in other countries be in their municipal budget, are not included.

Is there any country in EE/Balkans where expenses on healthcare, police and education are included in municipal budgets ?

^^ I simply dont know enough about EE/Balkan budget processes, it would be nice to get some info on that

Erm..in Bulgaria, it's pretty much like in Russia, we don't have a well-developed municipal police and healthcare, but we're trying. We're still in the early stages of decentralization here.

The budget of my hometown of Ruse for 2008 is BGN 98.516.000. Which is equal to 50.521.025 EUR. The population is about 170.000.

from 78 to 98 ,very very good progress

Bucharest city budget for 2008: 1.4 billion EURO or 2 billion $ (PS: without taxes from real estate transactions, which have been taken to the central budget this year :bash:; this is valid for ALL cities)

Other cities:

Timisoara: 257 million EUR (300.000 people)
Iasi: 260 million EUR (320.000 people)
Cluj: 200 million EUR (310.000 people)
Sibiu: 110 million EUR (170.000 people)
Galati: 110 million EUR (300.000 people)
Ploiesti: 114 million EUR (230.000 people)
Brasov: 142 million EUR (280.000 people)
Pitesti: 83 million EUR (170.000 people)
Craiova: 126 million EUR (300.000 people)
Arad: 90 million EUR (170.000 people)
Bacau: 52 million EUR (170.000 people)

Well even in this romania is ahead of bulgaria
bulgaria second city plovdiv with official 380 thousand people and third Varna with 320.000 have about 110 mln euro budget each for 2008

Is there any country in EE/Balkans where expenses on healthcare, police and education are included in municipal budgets ?
Well Moscow gets almost nothing from Federal Budget. Moscow is considered "non-donated" region, so federals spends just few percents of Moscow budget, mainly to support road and metro construction, but in very small percentage to city spendings.

^^ I simply dont know enough about EE/Balkan budget processes, it would be nice to get some info on that

In Romania the central government pays for stuff like police, professors, healthcare employees...

Well, where is Constanta?


Bucharest city budget for 2008: 1.4 billion EURO or 2 billion $ (PS: without taxes from real estate transactions, which have been taken to the central budget this year :bash:; this is valid for ALL cities)

Other cities:

Timisoara: 257 million EUR (300.000 people)
Iasi: 260 million EUR (320.000 people)
Cluj: 200 million EUR (310.000 people)
Sibiu: 110 million EUR (170.000 people)
Galati: 110 million EUR (300.000 people)
Ploiesti: 114 million EUR (230.000 people)
Brasov: 142 million EUR (280.000 people)
Pitesti: 83 million EUR (170.000 people)
Craiova: 126 million EUR (300.000 people)
Arad: 90 million EUR (170.000 people)
Bacau: 52 million EUR (170.000 people)

Well, where is Constanta?

Couldn't find its budget. :bash:

^^Now I found it:

Constanta's 2008 budget is 125 million EUR (310 thousand people)

So, to recapitulate:

Bucharest city budget for 2008: 1.4 billion EURO or 2 billion $

Other cities:

Timisoara: 257 million EUR (300.000 people)
Iasi: 260 million EUR (320.000 people)
Cluj: 200 million EUR (310.000 people)
Constanta: 125 million EUR (310.000 people)
Brasov: 142 million EUR (280.000 people)
Craiova: 126 million EUR (300.000 people)
Ploiesti: 114 million EUR (230.000 people)
Sibiu: 110 million EUR (170.000 people)
Galati: 110 million EUR (300.000 people)
Arad: 90 million EUR (170.000 people)
Pitesti: 83 million EUR (170.000 people)
Bacau: 52 million EUR (170.000 people)


^^ I expected Constanta to be a lot higher. :ohno:

Strange!:nuts: Piatra-Neamt (120k people) has investments of over 110 mil Euro in 2008 - http://www.primariapn.ro/fisiere/buget/lista_investitii_2008.pdf

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18277401&postcount=695

Edit: ^^ they're RON not Euro :lol::nuts:

^^Now I found it:

Constanta's 2008 budget is 125 million EUR (310 thousand people)
...
^^ I expected Constanta to be a lot higher. :ohno:

Where did you find it ? Almost for sure your data is wrong (in 2007 the budget was 143m euro; I expect a bigger budget in 2008).

Where did you find it ? Almost for sure your data is wrong (in 2007 the budget was 143m euro; I expect a bigger budget in 2008).

Go to the link I posted above, go to 'search', insert keyword 'budget'. It'll bring you several docs. There you find it. It's something like 400 million ROL.

Bucharest is also down more than 200 million EURO from last year....I already mentioned the reason is the Gov took the taxes from real estate to the central budget. Maybe this is the reason Constanta's budget is lower this year, too.

Where did you find it ? Almost for sure your data is wrong (in 2007 the budget was 143m euro; I expect a bigger budget in 2008).

Count in also the RON has gone down compared to the EUR. :bash:

Go to the link I posted above, go to 'search', insert keyword 'budget'. It'll bring you several docs. There you find it. It's something like 400 million ROL.


Thanks ! I`ve tried several times without succes to find Constanta`s 2008 budget ! You`re a genius ! :) :cheers:

Thanks ! I`ve tried several times without succes to find Constanta`s 2008 budget ! You`re a genius ! :) :cheers:

:cheers: Mazare is a bastard.....it was sooo easy for me to find the other cities' budgets....they were obvious on the home page of the municipalities' webpages, but with Constanta it was quite an investigation. :bash:

2008
Some Russian cities

Unlike Moscow and S-Petersburg figures, all others are the "pure municipal" budgets.
Even looking at the very undervalued rouble the figures are very small.

Moscow - 1.170 bln rub ($47.3 bln) $4530 per capita
Sankt Peterburg - 323,7 bln rub ($13.1 bln) $2866 per capita
Novosibirsk - 30 bln rub ($1.21 bln) $870 per capita
Ekaterinburg - 21,6 bln rub ($870 mln) $662 per capita
Krasnoyarsk - 20,4 bln rub ($830 mln) $895 per capita
Surgut - 17,0 bln rub ($688 mln) $2370 per capita -- "Oil"
Perm' - 16,1 bln rub ($652 mln) $658 per capita
Rostov-na-Donu - 15.4 bln rub ($623 mln) $593 per capita
Nizhnii Novgorod - 14,8 bln rub ($600 mln) $469 per capita
Tyumen' - 14,3 bln rub ($578 mln) $1050 per capita
Krasnodar - 13.2 bln rub ($534 mln) $753 per capita
Yaroslavl' - 12,9 bln rub ($522 mln) $864 per capita
Noril'sk - 12,0 bln rub ($485 mln) $2320 per capita -- "copper, gold, palladium etc"
Omsk - 11,8 bln rub ($477 mln) $420 per capita
Chelyabinsk - 11,6 bln rub ($469 mln) $430 per capita
Irkutsk - 11,5 bln rub ($465 mln) $809 per capita
Kazan' - 11 bln rub ($445 mln) $400 per capita
Kemerovo - 10,7 bln rub ($433 mln) $833 per capita
Samara - 10,6 bln rub ($429 mln) $376 per capita
Novokuznetsk - 10,0 bln rub ($404 mln) $721 per capita
Khabarovsk - 9,8 bln rub ($396 mln) $686 per capita
Ufa - 9,6 bln rub ($388 mln) $380 per capita
Voronezh - 9.1 bln rub ($368 mln) $438 per capita
Novyi Urengoi - 7,4 bln rub ($300 mln) $2750 per capita -- "Gas"
Tol'yatti - 6,8 bln rub ($275 mln) $390 per capita
Lipetsk - 6,6 bln rub ($267 mln) $531 per capita
Murmansk - 6,6 bln rub ($267 mln) $842 per capita
Saratov - 6.5 bln rub ($263 mln) $313 per capita
Tula - 6,4 bln rub ($259 mln) $514 per capita
Arkhangel'sk - 5,8 bln rub ($235 mln) $675 per capita
Vladivostok - 5,7 bln rub ($230 mln) $396 per capita
Orenburg - 5,7 bln rub ($230 mln) $434 per capita
Barnaul - 5,5 bln rub ($222 mln) $370 per capita
Tomsk - 5,1 bln rub ($206 mln) $418 per capita
Komsomol'sk-na-Amure - 4,9 bln rub ($198 mln) $731 per capita
Yakutsk - 4,5 bln rub ($182 mln) $743 per capita
Khanty-Mansiisk - 4,4 bln rub ($178 mln) $2815 per capita -- "Oil"
Syktyvkar - 3,0 bln rub ($121 mln) $528 per capita
Biysk - 2,3 bln rub ($93 mln) $417 per capita
Al'met'evsk - 2,0 bln rub ($81 mln) $570 per capita

Please note that Moscow & St Pete are federal regions so comparisons should be made with other REGIONAL budgets, not municipal ones.
It's also worth mentioning that the purchasing power of a rouble is a lot higher in the provinces, i.e. $1000 in Novosibirsk or Krasnodar buys something like $2000 worth of goods and services in Moscow prices.
This is just a guess on my befalf, I based it on labour costs and real estate/land prices.
On the other hand if a city wants to buy 100 buses, for example, then the price is the same for any city or even less for Mos/StPete because of their bargaining power.
Of course Moscow is better off, but the difference is not as huge as your figures suggest.

The budget of Veliko Tarnovo (75 000) :

2008 - 26 mil EUR. :cheers:

Previous years :

2007 - 20 mil EUR.
2006 - 9 mil EUR.

.....

Bulgarian largest cities' budget, 2008:

(population data within city limits taken from NSI - http://www.nsi.bg/nrnm/index.php?ezik=bul&f=8&s=1&date=11.02.2008&e=1&s1=4&c1=1&a1=60000&c=0 )

(budget data from municipality sites / news sites)


Sofia - 1.150.000 - EUR 443.6M (EUR 385.7/capita)
Plovdiv - 343.662 - EUR 102.6M (EUR 298.6/capita)
Varna - 311.465 - EUR 112.8M (EUR 362.1/capita)
Burgas - 188.887 - EUR 61.5M (EUR 325.6/capita)
Ruse - 157.526 - EUR 51.5M (EUR 326.9/capita)
Stara Zagora - 141.597 - EUR 42.6M (EUR 300.9/capita)
Sliven - 95.400 - EUR 82М (EUR 859.5/capita !!!!!!!)
Pazarjik - 76.136 - EUR 24М (EUR 315/capita)
Veliko Tarnovo - 66.272 - EUR 26M (EUR 392/capita)

^^

There is no budget`s data on the link you`ve provided above.

The NSI`s population statistics are outdated as well.

Check the GRAO`s ones or the private researches.

It`s better opportunity! :)

P.S.

I`d better be a rabbit than believe this shit that Sofia is 1.154 k or Stara Zagora 141 k!

NSI needs at least a multiple 2.0 function in its statistics. :lol:

^^ It is the number of people that have a permament citizenship. It's written on your ID card. Should you believe or not believe is actually your own business. Anyway, there is no other more precise way of doing population census stats except those we make once in 10 years. If you have any notes or arguments against it, feel free to contact the NSI. I am not responsible for what they publish on their site :)

^^

Sorry, but I really didn`t understand what you`ve just mentioned as a written stuff on my ID card...

NSI uses the national counting as a method of doing statistics which is an old-fashioned and denied by the EU and US authorities method.

GRAO is better source as I already sad. They use the ID card`s permament address which I admit as a best method of doing population statistics.

If you wanna have the most proper statistics check GRAO or the private sources! :)

Both NSI and GRAO use data from the regional GRAO authorities. The only difference is that GRAO updates its data monthly with data it gets on deceased/newly born people.

I've never heard that this is an outdated or defied by USA, EU, whatever method. Could you provide some source for that claim?

BTW, since you mentioned "private research", it just occured to me that neither me, nor anyone I know was ever approached by some company doing its private research on population census. I highly doubt that any company ever did and/or needs to do something like that. And since I don't remember any company doing this, I can't say that (if) they do some research like that, it could be considered reliable at all.

And yes, I agree that official statistics based on permament citizenship are misleading due to the migration processes, etc, but there is no way to make reliable statistics on that. The only way is to enforce the old commie-way of registrations which is really undemocratic.

I`ve just found smth very interesting.

Center for Population Studies - Sofia, BULGARIA

http://cps.bas.bg/english/index-en.html

GLOBAL ASSESSMENT OF THE NATIONAL STATISTICS SYSTEM


In Bulgarian only

http://www.nsi.bg/AboutNSI/Summary-bg.htm

To add on to the list, Kazanlak's 2008 budget was released recently at 15.8m euro

Sofia - 1.150.000 - EUR 443.6M (EUR 385.7/capita)
Plovdiv - 343.662 - EUR 102.6M (EUR 298.6/capita)
Varna - 311.465 - EUR 112.8M (EUR 362.1/capita)
Burgas - 188.887 - EUR 61.5M (EUR 325.6/capita)
Ruse - 157.526 - EUR 51.5M (EUR 326.9/capita)
Stara Zagora - 141.597 - EUR 42.6M (EUR 300.9/capita)
Sliven - 95.400 - EUR 82М (EUR 859.5/capita !!!!!!!)
Pazarjik - 76.136 - EUR 24М (EUR 315/capita)
Veliko Tarnovo - 66.272 - EUR 26M (EUR 392/capita)
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Kazanlak - 57.000 - EUR 15.8M (EUR 282/capita)

One has to mention that size of municipal budgets differ in every country, depending on laws, administrative partition characteristics, amount of sphere's controled by municipality and by central government and various other stuff.

Anyway,

Vilnius's one is ~486mln euros

Could be up to ~2,63 bln euros, if Vilnius would've been a complete self governing entity and would'nt have to give a very large share to state budget

^^Now I found it:

Constanta's 2008 budget is 125 million EUR (310 thousand people)

So, to recapitulate:

Bucharest city budget for 2008: 1.4 billion EURO or 2 billion $

Other cities:

Timisoara: 257 million EUR (300.000 people)
Iasi: 260 million EUR (320.000 people)
Cluj: 200 million EUR (310.000 people)
Constanta: 125 million EUR (310.000 people)
Brasov: 142 million EUR (280.000 people)
Craiova: 126 million EUR (300.000 people)
Ploiesti: 114 million EUR (230.000 people)
Sibiu: 110 million EUR (170.000 people)
Galati: 110 million EUR (300.000 people)
Arad: 90 million EUR (170.000 people)
Pitesti: 83 million EUR (170.000 people)
Bacau: 52 million EUR (170.000 people)


^^ I expected Constanta to be a lot higher. :ohno:

Piatra-Neamt 2008 - 231.561.000 lei (63.8mil Euro) (~120.000 people)
source http://www.monitorulneamt.ro/stiri/?editia=20080215&pagina=1&articol=16209

The budget(income,not expenditure) of the biggest cities in Hungary(populations are 2004 data):
Budapest (http://www.klubradio.hu/cikk.php?id=16&cid=63135)(1 696 128):512 billion HUF(1,93 billion EUR)
Debrecen (http://portal.debrecen.hu/hirek/helyi/koltsegvetesisarokpontok_helyihirek.html)(205,100):45,8 billion HUF(173 million EUR)
Miskolc (http://www.miskolc.hu/pages/template1.aspx?id=1664472)(181,100):47,9 billion HUF(181 million EUR)
Szeged (http://www.delmagyar.hu/szeged_hirek/a_megyei_koltsegvetes__milliard_minusszal_szamol/2047735/)(162,500):16,2billion HUF(61 million EUR) -can anyone get a more realistic number?This is way too low...
Pécs (http://www.hirszerzo.hu/cikk.ekf_helyett_2010-re_osszeomolhat_pecs_koltsegvetese.57100.html)(158,700):39 billion HUF(147 million EUR) -confirmation needed
Győr (http://www.gyor.hu/index.php?hlid=4076)(128,400):41,2 billion HUF(155 million EUR)
Nyíregyháza (http://www.nyiregyhaza.hu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11380&Itemid=26)(116,200)39 billion HUF(147 million EUR)
Kecskemét (http://baon.hu/index.php?apps=cikk&cikk=125424)(106,500):32 billion HUF(120 million EUR)
Székesfehérvár (http://onkormanyzat.szekesfehervar.hu/index.php?pg=news_41428)(103,300):38,6 billion HUF(145 million EUR)
Szombathely(81,200):I cant get 2008 data
Szolnok (http://szolnok.mconet.biz/index.php?action=fullnews&id=373129&category=77&category_name=/index.php)(76,700):19,6 billion HUF(74 million EUR) -seems very low...
Tatabánya(71,800):I cant get 2008 data
Kaposvár (http://www.sonline.hu/index.php?apps=cikk&cikk=125619)(67,700):23,9 billion HUF(90 million EUR)
Békéscsaba(66,900):I cant get 2008 data
Zalaegerszeg (http://www.mno.hu/portal/541789)(61,600):24 billion HUF(90 million EUR)
Veszprém (http://veszprem.mconet.biz//?action=fullnews&id=375622&category=89)(61,000):21,3 billion HUF(80 million EUR)
Eger(56,900):I cant get 2008 data
Érd (http://www.erd.hu/kozzetetel/gazdalkodas/ktgv_08/ktgv_08.html)(56,800):15 billion HUF(56 million EUR) -need confirmation
Sopron (http://www.kisalfold.hu/soproni_hirek/koltsegvetesi_szigor_feszes_gazdalkodas/2047902/)(55,300):26,9 billion HUF(101 million EUR)

Bulgarian largest cities' budget, 2008:

Burgas - 188.887 - EUR 61.5M (EUR 325.6/capita)


Такъв бюджет не е бил предлаган за Бургас. Приетия бюджет е 130.103 млн.

Burgas - 188.887 - EUR 66.7M (EUR 353.2/capita)

2008
Some Russian cities

Unlike Moscow and S-Petersburg figures, all others are the "pure municipal" budgets.
Even looking at the very undervalued rouble the figures are very small.

Moscow - 1.170 bln rub ($47.3 bln) $4530 per capita
Sankt Peterburg - 323,7 bln rub ($13.1 bln) $2866 per capita
Novosibirsk - 30 bln rub ($1.21 bln) $870 per capita
Ekaterinburg - 21,6 bln rub ($870 mln) $662 per capita
Krasnoyarsk - 20,4 bln rub ($830 mln) $895 per capita
Surgut - 17,0 bln rub ($688 mln) $2370 per capita -- "Oil"
Perm' - 16,1 bln rub ($652 mln) $658 per capita
Rostov-na-Donu - 15.4 bln rub ($623 mln) $593 per capita
Nizhnii Novgorod - 14,8 bln rub ($600 mln) $469 per capita
Tyumen' - 14,3 bln rub ($578 mln) $1050 per capita
Krasnodar - 13.2 bln rub ($534 mln) $753 per capita
Yaroslavl' - 12,9 bln rub ($522 mln) $864 per capita
Noril'sk - 12,0 bln rub ($485 mln) $2320 per capita -- "copper, gold, palladium etc"
Omsk - 11,8 bln rub ($477 mln) $420 per capita
Chelyabinsk - 11,6 bln rub ($469 mln) $430 per capita
Irkutsk - 11,5 bln rub ($465 mln) $809 per capita
Kazan' - 11 bln rub ($445 mln) $400 per capita
Kemerovo - 10,7 bln rub ($433 mln) $833 per capita
Samara - 10,6 bln rub ($429 mln) $376 per capita
Novokuznetsk - 10,0 bln rub ($404 mln) $721 per capita
Khabarovsk - 9,8 bln rub ($396 mln) $686 per capita
Ufa - 9,6 bln rub ($388 mln) $380 per capita
Voronezh - 9.1 bln rub ($368 mln) $438 per capita
Novyi Urengoi - 7,4 bln rub ($300 mln) $2750 per capita -- "Gas"
Tol'yatti - 6,8 bln rub ($275 mln) $390 per capita
Lipetsk - 6,6 bln rub ($267 mln) $531 per capita
Murmansk - 6,6 bln rub ($267 mln) $842 per capita
Saratov - 6.5 bln rub ($263 mln) $313 per capita
Tula - 6,4 bln rub ($259 mln) $514 per capita
Arkhangel'sk - 5,8 bln rub ($235 mln) $675 per capita
Vladivostok - 5,7 bln rub ($230 mln) $396 per capita
Orenburg - 5,7 bln rub ($230 mln) $434 per capita
Barnaul - 5,5 bln rub ($222 mln) $370 per capita
Tomsk - 5,1 bln rub ($206 mln) $418 per capita
Komsomol'sk-na-Amure - 4,9 bln rub ($198 mln) $731 per capita
Yakutsk - 4,5 bln rub ($182 mln) $743 per capita
Khanty-Mansiisk - 4,4 bln rub ($178 mln) $2815 per capita -- "Oil"
Syktyvkar - 3,0 bln rub ($121 mln) $528 per capita
Biysk - 2,3 bln rub ($93 mln) $417 per capita
Al'met'evsk - 2,0 bln rub ($81 mln) $570 per capita



I guess Moscow the only city in Russia now where 40-50 % spends for renovation,gas ,septic, water sistems ,waste and ets covered by Moscow budgets still. In other cities citizens pay 100 % or best way 80-90%

Bulgarian financial centers` credit ratings

However, the city budgets depend on the credit ratings.

So, here are the few represented by the Standart & Poor`s credit ratings of a few Bulgarian financial centers.


Plovdiv (City of) BB+/Stable/--

Stara Zagora (City of) BB+/Stable/--

Sofia (City of) BB+/Positive/--

Varna (City of) BB+/Stable/--


Link to S&P (http://www2.standardandpoors.com/portal/site/sp/en/eu/page.topic/ratings_pf/2,1,7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,4,0,13,0,4,1.html)




:2cents:

The budget of Vratsa, Bulgaria (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=391310)

2008 - 20 560 000 EUR. (40 299 488 лв)

Previous years :

2007 - 18 197 000 EUR
2006 - 14 821 000 EUR
2005 - 12 350 000 EUR
2004 - 10 270 000 EUR

^^

Very impressive Seven 7!

Every year till 2006 the Vratsa budget has been poping up with about EUR 2 M step.

However, in 2007 with about EUR 4 M!

So, I can`t calculate the expected Vratsa budget for a future period very accurate any more. :)

Go Vratsa, go! :)

Constanta's 2008 budget is 125 million EUR (310 thousand people)

So, to recapitulate:

Bucharest city budget for 2008: 1.4 billion EURO or 2 billion $

Other cities:

Timisoara:
257 million EUR (300.000 people)
Iasi:
260 million EUR (320.000 people)
Cluj:
200 million EUR (310.000 people)
Constanta:
125 million EUR (310.000 people)
Brasov:
142 million EUR (280.000 people)
Craiova:
126 million EUR (300.000 people)
Ploiesti:
114 million EUR (230.000 people)
Sibiu:
110 million EUR (170.000 people)
Galati:
110 million EUR (300.000 people)
Arad:
90 million EUR (170.000 people)
Pitesti:
83 million EUR (170.000 people)
Bacau:
52 million EUR (170.000 people)


I expected Constanta to be a lot higher.
Iasi is not doing that badely after all,we have the biggest budget of all romanian cities after bucharest.I admit we have the second biggest population,but nevertheless a nice performance :banana:

Budget 2008 in other bulgarian cities

The budget of Dobrich, Bulgaria - 35 570 089 lv
The budget of Blagoevgrad, Bulgaria - 38 080 917 lv
The budget of Pleven, Bulgaria - 56 410 490 lv
The budget of Vidin, Bulgaria - 29 600 000 lv
The budget of Shumen, Bulgaria - 51 331 536 lv
The budget of Pernik, Bulgaria - 37 789 387 lv
The budget of Kustendil, Bulgaria - 24 490 000 lv

"Kosovo Albanians are proud muslims" - thunderman

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

What's with me? Am i not a Kosova Albanian, just because i'm catholic by religion?
My "muslim" albanian brothers in Kosova are able to drink more Birra Peja and Rahovec wine, than you ever will be.

:lol:

Zagreb city budget for 2008 is 7,45 billion kn, which is aproximetly 1,03 billion euro.

city budgets in Serbia (2008.)

Belgrade (1,800.000 inhabitants) - 66,3 bln RSD (828 mln EUR) = 460 per capita
Novi Sad (300.000 inhabitants)- 14,2 bln RSD (178 mln EUR) = 593 per capita
Kragujevac (180.000 inhabitants) - 5,5 bln RSD (68 mln EUR) = 380 per capita
Nis (250.000 inhabitants) - ~5,0 bln RSD (62 mln EUR) = ~250 per capita

Belgrade (1,800.000 inhabitants) is it estimates official or unofficial?
It Is important for "per capita".

Belgrade
Area
- City 3,222.68 km² (1,244.3 sq mi)
- Urban 359.96 km² (139 sq mi)
Elevation 117 m (384 ft)
Population (2002)[2]
- City 1 576 124
- Density 745/km² (1,929.5/sq mi)
- Urban 1 281 801
- Urban Density 5,001/km² (12,952.5/sq mi)
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4

http://webrzs.statserb.sr.gov.yu/axd/Zip/NEP1.pdf
http://webrzs.statserb.sr.gov.yu/axd/Zip/NEP1.pdf


Warsaw city official city 1 705 000 (2,2 mln urban )by officia estimates while some much higher unofficial estimates are often published is about 3 000 000 in City (information from Warsaw Transport Authority,Central Statistical Office).

Zagreb city budget for 2008 is 7,45 billion kn, which is aproximetly 1,03 billion euro.

1,312€ per capita

Moscow 2008 Budget has been reviewed a month ago.

Official document
http://www.mos.ru/?rubricId=2333&documentId=106907

Incomes - 998 701 mln p. / ~ $41,6 bln / ~$3962 per registered capita
Expenditures - 1 206 398 mln p. / ~ $50,3 bln / $4790 per registered capita

$1 ~ 24p.

Riga has 600mln lats expenditures, it is around 1,25$bln.

RBC, 26.03.2008, Moscow 13:37:22.Moscow's budget estimate for 2009 is $44bn, making the city's budget the third in the world after Tokio ($55bn) and New-York ($50bn), Moscow Mayor Yury Luzhkov said at the tenth annual meeting of the Moscow International Business Association today. He added that the city was expected to take the second place according to its budget size in two years. Luzhkov also said that Moscow's GDP was projected to double in 2009 or earlier, noting that the city attracted $70bn worth of investment in 2007, including $15bn of direct investment.

http://www.rbcnews.com/free/20080326133722.shtml

so already next year Moscow will have the largest budget in Europe?

Already largest for few years. Next year expect somewhere $55-58bln

lol those numbers are funny, seems like Russia is paradise on earth :lol:, so I wonder why most Russians live in poverty, the gap between oligarchs and avarage Russian is amazing.

it was said you to stop posting russophobic crap and original researches without providing numbers.

1. 16% is not most.
2. gini index is just about 40. above of HK and USA and near UK.
3. in terms of prosperity (HDI) Russia is catching up Poland very quickly

^^ Point 3 isn't really that comforting, since most Poles themselves live in poverty :lol:

it was said you to stop posting russophobic crap and original researches without providing numbers.

1. 16% is not most.
2. gini index is just about 40. above of HK and USA and near UK.
3. in terms of prosperity (HDI) Russia is catching up Poland very quickly

whats russophobic here? I have doubts about those numbers, because if it was so rich, why Russians are so poor except oligarchs, look at HDI, your roads, starving children, HiV, life expectancy etc. etc. These are pure facts why no to talk about it?

^^ Point 3 isn't really that comforting, since most Poles themselves live in poverty :lol:

right, poverty in Poland means wealth in Russia, average Pole earns 3 times as much as average Russian.

right, poverty in Poland means wealth in Russia, average Pole earns 3 times as much as average Russian.
Did you get stuck in time? around 1998?

right, poverty in Poland means wealth in Russia, average Pole earns 3 times as much as average Russian.

So a pole earns around $1500 a month in Poland ? :lol:

that's why you work at dutch and german factories or farms for $1000 a month right ?

$1000 is below polish average:)
Actually, there are only two cities in Russia: Moscow and Sankt Petersburg

Polish average salary is $1333 per month

don't argue guys, we just need to wait till April updated IMF report and then have a look at PPP GDP per capita figures. Everything should be clear then ;)

Wow. looks like another forum war :D I'll answer to this troll. While hitchiking through Poland we were robbed. Roads were awful, people were mostly unfriendly and didn't speak any language except polish. Most of citizens looked like they are bushmans. After that trip my latvian friendsnever went to Poland again :0 Actually we were going through that awful place. Polish countryside was piss poor compared to small latvian tidy towns. BTW Warsaw was good with fine skyline but it can't change image of a country. I I want to go to travel around WE than I take Ryanair and countinue my journey. And belrussian countryside looks twice better than polish. People are nicer and less agressive. And all that stupid faith. The poorer and underdeveloped country is the more religious.

Moscow doing really well ...such huge budget!

don't argue guys, we just need to wait till April updated IMF report and then have a look at PPP GDP per capita figures. Everything should be clear then ;)

I agree ... I believe that Russia GDP has great potential to increase...:)

The fact that those flame wars are not typical to the Balkan peninsula only makes me feel relaxed :) I thought we were cursed :)

Wow. looks like another forum war :D I'll answer to this troll. While hitchiking through Poland we were robbed. Roads were awful, people were mostly unfriendly and didn't speak any language except polish. Most of citizens looked like they are bushmans. After that trip my latvian friendsnever went to Poland again :0 Actually we were going through that awful place. Polish countryside was piss poor compared to small latvian tidy towns. BTW Warsaw was good with fine skyline but it can't change image of a country. I I want to go to travel around WE than I take Ryanair and countinue my journey. And belrussian countryside looks twice better than polish. People are nicer and less agressive. And all that stupid faith. The poorer and underdeveloped country is the more religious.
All baltic russians are such idiots like you?
No wonder you are so hated there:lol:

Question for Polish SSC forumers
Tell me what country around Poland YOU have good relationship here on SSC forum ?

It seems that Poles start the most flames per capita - that is a statistic to be proud of :)

Question for Polish SSC forumers
Tell me what country around Poland YOU have good relationship here on SSC forum ?

Ukraine :)

right, poverty in Poland means wealth in Russia, average Pole earns 3 times as much as average Russian.

Time to get banned Deb.. ah Delfin,its really enough.

a correction, Orange Ukraine :)

Time to get banned Deb.. ah Delfin,its really enough.
So what about the reaction of that troll alexriga?

So what about the reaction of that troll alexriga?
You are even worse, because you went straight to insults and stereotypes in you response. Do you need to get banned as well? :crazy:

I can't understand why polish trolls such as Delfin can't accept the truth and leave it alone. If Moscows city budget is the biggest in EE and one of the biggest of the world just accept it. It's good for the people of Moscow,fine for them but don't start this stories of homeless children and oliegarchie.

So what about the reaction of that troll alexriga?

What do you mean?He tells the truth i think.I heard even worser storys by people wich were in EE.

What do you mean?He tells the truth i think.I heard even worser storys by people wich were in EE.
Insulting someone by saying that citizens of his country look like bushmen is ok in your opinion?

:ohno:Insulting someone by saying that citizens of his country look like bushmen is ok in your opinion?

Ok,that was not right!But cmon,this way of conversation was and is being used until now (i hope not longer) by some 'special' user here...

I think Alexriga was being sarcastic but on the other side this reactions are being created by polish trolls who start about how poor Russia is while they are still poor too.

EJO-1_2QBSk

Wow. looks like another forum war :D I'll answer to this troll. While hitchiking through Poland we were robbed. Roads were awful, people were mostly unfriendly and didn't speak any language except polish. Most of citizens looked like they are bushmans. After that trip my latvian friendsnever went to Poland again :0 Actually we were going through that awful place. Polish countryside was piss poor compared to small latvian tidy towns. BTW Warsaw was good with fine skyline but it can't change image of a country. I I want to go to travel around WE than I take Ryanair and countinue my journey. And belrussian countryside looks twice better than polish. People are nicer and less agressive. And all that stupid faith. The poorer and underdeveloped country is the more religious.
You were robbed? C'mon, I'm sure they just took back what some looking like bushmans soviet soldiers stole in 1944/45. It's not robbery, it's justice. Btw my grandpa's golden watch is still missing. Haven't you seen it Alex?

@ Ruslan33
I'm just being sarcastic:)

EJO-1_2QBSk


:booze:

This girls are dancing in federation tower ?:cheers:

You were robbed? C'mon, I'm sure they just took back what some looking like bushmans soviet soldiers stole in 1944/45. It's not robbery, it's justice. Btw my grandpa's golden watch is still missing. Haven't you seen it Alex?

@ Ruslan33
I'm just being sarcastic:)

I know my friend.

EJO-1_2QBSk

wtf?!






























:D

The top skyline ever ^^ no match

Wow. looks like another forum war :D I'll answer to this troll. While hitchiking through Poland we were robbed. Roads were awful, people were mostly unfriendly and didn't speak any language except polish. Most of citizens looked like they are bushmans. After that trip my latvian friendsnever went to Poland again :0 Actually we were going through that awful place. Polish countryside was piss poor compared to small latvian tidy towns. BTW Warsaw was good with fine skyline but it can't change image of a country. I I want to go to travel around WE than I take Ryanair and countinue my journey. And belrussian countryside looks twice better than polish. People are nicer and less agressive. And all that stupid faith. The poorer and underdeveloped country is the more religious.
Vice versa for you.

Inferiority complex or jealousy?

Time to get banned Deb.. ah Delfin,its really enough.
and Alexriga

Some guys just talk to much :"My country is better than yours".
Is a ridiculous argument .
All countries in Eastern Europe / Balkans are nice, has pretty landscape or countryside and has fast economic development.
So i hope some guys -they will get banned.

a correction, Orange Ukraine :)
a correction 80% Ukraine ;)
Ukraine will decide to join Nato and UE.

@Darhet
C'mon, be polite with that troll.
This guy is a mongol living in civilised world (Latvia). Just imagine how his life hard must be.

I'm just being sarcastic, guys.:)

a correction 80% Ukraine ;)
Ukraine will decide to join Nato and UE.

80% of Ukraine is not Orange and most of Ukrainians are opposed to NATO membership ;)

Question for Polish SSC forumers
Tell me what country around Poland YOU have good relationship here on SSC forum ?

Question for Marek.kvackaj
Tell me do YOU know how many Polish forumers there are on SSC boards? Hint: way over thousand

That's propably more than all other European nationals put together on this forum.
So if there is someone you don't personally like, the likelyhood of him being a Pole is very high. So how about trying to judge people on personal level instead of their nationality, huh? Do you think it could work out for you or you don't feel up to it?

:ohno:

It seems that Poles start the most flames per capita - that is a statistic to be proud of :)

Think again (look one post above).

every discussion with delfin ends with a war, he lives in his small world (polish california:nuts:) and he uses this forum for insulting other people and countries
just ignore him, maybe he'll get bored

^^ What are mods for then if not for banning such kids?

yeah you're right
but if ban him, he'll create a new profile
this guy can not live without argument, when there is nothing special in this section he is on the flame war with somebody from polish subforum
we've got plenty of quarrelsome in poland :)

it's called energetic vampirism :lol:

Sosnowiec (Poland)
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6153/scpl7.jpg

Population:
222,829

Budget for 2008

Incomes:
545,908,119 PLN ~ 155 mln Euro or 244 mln USD... 696 Euro/1095 USD per capita

Expenditures:
650,740,849 PLN ~ 184,5 mln Euro or 291 mln USD... 828 Euro/1306 USD per capita

bump

Moscow 2009-2011 budget.

forecast, expenditures

2009: 1 523 bln р. / ~$64bln
2010: 1 732 bln p. / ~$73bln
2011: 2 032 bln p. / ~$85bln (tokyo is growing on its own, but moscow will possibly overtake it)
$1 ~ 23,8p.

wow Impressive budget. Could give us some more information on the structure of Moscow's budget? I mean types of expences, percentage, etc.

2008 SERBIA

Beograd 828 750 000 e-1 576 000(526 e/per capita)
Novi Sad 231 250 000 e- 299 000(773 e/per capita)
Kragujevac 83 700 000 e-175 000(478 e/per capita)
Nis 80 000 000-250 000(320 e/per capita)

bump

Moscow 2009-2011 budget.

forecast, expenditures

2009: 1 523 bln р. / ~$64bln
2010: 1 732 bln p. / ~$73bln
2011: 2 032 bln p. / ~$85bln (tokyo is growing on its own, but moscow will possibly overtake it)
$1 ~ 23,8p.

If you wouldnt mind I was wondering if you could also put down the sources of Income??
It seems amazing that Moscow churns up so much income for example london a similar sized city only has a budget of around $20 bln does Moscow get lots of Govt subsidies?

Many companies that operate in all of Russia are registered in Moscow, because it is the economical and bureaucratic center. Therefore Moscow gets more of the taxes from these companies. This flaw of our tax laws makes it unfair on the rest of Russia really. Imho, some tax reforms need to be done to address this issue and spread wealth more evenly

Katowice, Upper Silesia
Poland

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Katowice_-_Widok_z_niebieskich_blok%C3%B3w_01.jpg/800px-Katowice_-_Widok_z_niebieskich_blok%C3%B3w_01.jpg

Population:
312,203

Budget:

Income:

1,064 mld złotychs = 319,5 mln Euro = 468,7 mln $

per capita
3408 złotychs = 1023 Euro = 1501 $

Expenditures:
1,292 mld zł = 388 mln Euro = 569,1 mln $

per capita
4138 zł = 1243 Euro = 1822 $

Many companies that operate in all of Russia are registered in Moscow, because it is the economical and bureaucratic center. Therefore Moscow gets more of the taxes from these companies. This flaw of our tax laws makes it unfair on the rest of Russia really. Imho, some tax reforms need to be done to address this issue and spread wealth more evenly
Most of them was actually made in Moscow. Out of all federal companies there is only Gazprom. Rest are Moscow's communication, development and retail companies.

Current figures for Moscow 2009-2011 budget. Approved by the City Duma in first reading yesterday.

http://top.rbc.ru/moscow/08/10/2008/251358.shtml

2009
incomes: 1 trl 530 bln 458,3 mln rub. / $58,9bln
expenditures: 1 trl 663 bln 975,9 mln rub. / $64,0bln

2010
incomes: 1 trl 795 bln 592,9 mln rub. / $69,1bln
expenditures: 1 trl 882 bln 234 mln rub. / $72,4bln

2011
incomes: 2 trl 83 bln 928,4 mln rub. / $80,2bln
expenditures: 2 trl 223 bln 768,2 mln rub. / $85,5bln

it's hard to say what is going to be euro/usd rate, so 1 usd = 26 p.

2008 Serbia

City Beograd 828 750 000 e-1 576 000(526 e/per capita)
City Novi Sad 178 040 000 e- 299 000(595 e/per capita)
City Kragujevac 83 700 000 e-175 000(478 e/per capita)
City Nis 80 000 000 e-250 000(320 e/per capita)
Subotica 55 865 287 e-148 401(376 e/per capita)
Pancevo 52 500 000 e-127 162(413 e/per capita)
Zrenjanin 52 500 000 e-132 051(398 e/per capita)
Cacak 27 875 000 e-117 000(238 e/per capita)
Kraljevo 24 390 206 e-121 707(200 e/per capita)
Leskovac 23 215 375 e-156 252(149 e/per capita)
Uzice 19 935 000 e-83 022(240 e/per capita)
Vranje 17 750 000 e-87 288(203 e/per capita)
Sombor 17 493 788-97 263(180 e/per capita)
Kovin 8 262 500 e-36 802(225 e/per capita)
Dimitrovgrad 3 450 000-11 748(294 e/per capita)
Babusnica 2 308 750-15734(147 e/per capita)

1-4 City
others municipality

Czech cities' budgets for 2008 or 2009:

Praha (2009)
pop 1,188,100
outcomes: CZK 48.87 bil = EUR 1.916 bil
incomes: CZK 40.20 bil = EUR 1.576 bil

Brno (2009)
pop 366,700
outcomes: CZK 10.831 bil = EUR 425 mil
incomes: CZK 9.807 bil = EUR 385 mil

Ostrava (2008)
pop 309,100
outcomes: CZK 7.310 bil = EUR 287 mil
incomes: CZK 7.094 bil = EUR 278 mil

Plzeň (2009)
pop 164,600
outcomes: CZK 5.452 bil = EUR 214 mil
incomes: CZK 5.068 bil = EUR 199 mil

Olomouc (2008)
pop 100,200
outcomes: CZK 2.270 bil = EUR 89.1 mil
incomes: CZK 2.359 bil = EUR 92.5 mil

Liberec (2008)
pop 98,700
outcomes: CZK 2.531 bil = EUR 99.3 mil
incomes: CZK 2.275 bil = EUR 89.2 mil

Hradec Králové (2008)
pop 95,000
outcomes: CZK 2.373 bil = EUR 93.1 mil
incomes: CZK 2.284 bil = EUR 89.6 mil

České Budějovice (2008)
pop 94,700
outcomes: CZK 2.033 bil = EUR 79.7 mil
incomes: CZK 1.963 bil = EUR 77.0 mil

Ústí nad Labem (2008)
pop 94,400
outcomes: CZK 2.120 bil = EUR 83.2 mil
incomes: CZK 1.770 bil = EUR 69.4 mil

:cheers:

http://www.057info.hr/images/vijesti/orginal/Zadar_panorama_1165221899.jpg
Zadar, Croatia population= 72.717
http://www.zadarskilist.hr/media/base/zadar-cibona-030109-visnjik_dvorana.JPG
1 € = 7.3 HRK, 1 $ = 5.2 HRK
budget for
2009. = 455.793.700 HRK total = 62.437.493,20 € = 87.652.634,60 $
6268 kn per capita = 858.63 € per capita = 1 205.38 $ per capita
2008. = 430.239.785 HRK
2007. = 476.818.676 HRK