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Dareus
July 27th, 2009, 11:30 AM
This project could be worthwhile if it is planned properly - see analysis in http://www.2daydubai.com/jumeriah-gardens-dubai.html - but Dubai needs to adopt better consultation with residents affected by renewal programs before rushing in announcing that the district is about to be demolished

SA BOY
July 27th, 2009, 12:10 PM
no Dubai needs to do it sytematically ie start at one end and work towards the other , not like its current hodge podge process of starting (and not finnishing ) everywhere at once

Face81
August 2nd, 2009, 11:22 AM
I happen to know that the wheels on this project may be slowly starting to turn once more.... VERY VERY slowly, but things are happening..... :D

docc
August 2nd, 2009, 12:54 PM
^^ Care to elaborate?

Imre
August 2nd, 2009, 12:56 PM
behind the Mazaya Centre has a huge site already fenced but they removed the fence
and the site is empty now, would be a good for a camel or horse farm :)

http://i32.tinypic.com/mkgjkm.jpg

Face81
August 2nd, 2009, 03:17 PM
^^ Care to elaborate?

:colgate:

malec
August 3rd, 2009, 03:25 PM
behind the Mazaya Centre has a huge site already fenced but they removed the fence
and the site is empty now, would be a good for a camel or horse farm :)

http://i32.tinypic.com/mkgjkm.jpg

Is that taken from where the one dubai tower was supposed to go?

Imre
August 3rd, 2009, 03:44 PM
no , this one is different site, there were old villas and small buildings but removed only a medium supermarket left.

gevorika78
August 3rd, 2009, 05:09 PM
:colgate:

i love the smile, it says it all:lol:

InDesign
August 21st, 2009, 04:11 PM
At least, I'm happy they didn't destroy the building I lived in, so I can still come and visit my friends.:)

Dark Matter
September 8th, 2009, 10:17 PM
I know this is a bump, but I am oddly optimistic about this years Cityscape. I have a feeling some good news might come out of it for Jumeirah Gardens. Though I do feel they might scrap something from it.

*crosses fingers*

Please don't let it be One Dubai.

Adam2707
September 8th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Hard to believe its nearly been a year already.

I have to say it thought, I'm not as optimistic as you Dark Matter.
Practically zero progress all year... I don't think a simple exhibition is going to change that in a hurry.

Dark Matter
September 8th, 2009, 10:42 PM
Shush. I'm trying to fool myself.

european
September 9th, 2009, 04:00 AM
:omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg:


Sorry i had to do that, this project is awesome probably the best project in dubai i've seen till date. if they say finish building this by 2020 dubai will by far have the world greatest skyline not only that this project would completely transform dubai.

docc
September 9th, 2009, 09:12 AM
It's not a matter of if, but a matter of when. Personally, i believe it will happen sooner or later.

Dark Matter
September 10th, 2009, 04:42 AM
I agree, lets not forget that Samsung did get signed for 95 billion.

Face81
September 10th, 2009, 08:37 AM
I agree, lets not forget that Samsung did get signed for 95 billion.


^^What are you talking about?

Stephan23
September 10th, 2009, 08:47 AM
I also hope for Cityscape this year ! Some projects are near finishing ! Maybe they need new stuff :D

docc
September 10th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Also, JG is being developed by Meraas, which is owned by Sheikh Mohammed himself if i'm not mistaken.

Face81
September 10th, 2009, 10:14 AM
Also, JG is being developed by Meraas, which is owned by Sheikh Mohammed himself if i'm not mistaken.

It's unclear as to who actually owns it, but it is owned by a member of the Dubai royal family, yes.

Number 49
September 10th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Shush. I'm trying to fool myself.

Dark Matter, I'm with you on this one.
We are now starting to see distress investment funds trying to buy into certain developments in Dubai which means they think the prices will fall no further and that those developments will be profitable in future.
The opening of the Metro and the Burj are further signs of Dubai's resilience and hopefully the first steps to a restoration of confidence in the market.
Cityscape will certainly be different this year and I bet it will be positive.

Dark Matter
September 10th, 2009, 06:31 PM
Last years Cityscape was very good. What followed was terrible.

So hopefully the key difference is what happens after this years Cityscape. It's already being said that this years Cityscape wont be as "Big" as last years. But that is expected to be honest. But of course that doesn't mean no announcements will be made. It'd be quite the opposite of what the event is for. lol

Dark Matter
September 10th, 2009, 06:39 PM
^^What are you talking about?

http://www.meed.com/sectors/construction/samsung-wins-95bn-jumeira-gardens-tower-deal/1894101.article

This.

But I do apologize. If I do remember, think the deal was scrapped. And my memory proves it's not great as the deal is only for building One Dubai.

And sorry for double posting.

Blue Flame
September 23rd, 2009, 11:42 PM
^^
Does this mean they are actually going to build one dubai!?!!:eek2:

Dark Matter
September 24th, 2009, 11:17 AM
No clue honestly. Just because money was handled doesn't mean it can't be given back.

Imre
October 4th, 2009, 05:49 AM
Green shoots for Jumeira Gardens

October 3. 2009

Cityscape Dubai may be more exciting this week than people have been predicting, as Meraas Development emerges from a hiatus brought on by the property slump to announce a plan to move ahead with its Dh350 billion (US$95.3bn) Jumeira Gardens project.

The development, planned for the Satwa and Al Wasl areas of Dubai, will probably take longer to develop than originally planned, but it will “move forward”, said Sina al Kazim, a senior executive at Meraas Development.

“The markets are changing, but there is still a demand in the market for certain types of products,” he said. “We are concentrating on those areas, like residential villas … We are looking to the times when the recession will be over.”

The first part of Jumeira Gardens that could start construction next year would be an island off the coast of Dubai called East Bay Island, which would include high-end villas designed by Tony Owen Partners, an Australian firm.

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091003/BUSINESS/710039940/1042

Iceviper123
October 4th, 2009, 07:49 AM
Green shoots for Jumeira Gardens

October 3. 2009

Cityscape Dubai may be more exciting this week than people have been predicting, as Meraas Development emerges from a hiatus brought on by the property slump to announce a plan to move ahead with its Dh350 billion (US$95.3bn) Jumeira Gardens project.

The development, planned for the Satwa and Al Wasl areas of Dubai, will probably take longer to develop than originally planned, but it will “move forward”, said Sina al Kazim, a senior executive at Meraas Development.

“The markets are changing, but there is still a demand in the market for certain types of products,” he said. “We are concentrating on those areas, like residential villas … We are looking to the times when the recession will be over.”

The first part of Jumeira Gardens that could start construction next year would be an island off the coast of Dubai called East Bay Island, which would include high-end villas designed by Tony Owen Partners, an Australian firm.

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091003/BUSINESS/710039940/1042

:cheers:

DXBQuantum
October 4th, 2009, 07:51 AM
has anyone noticed the lack of advertising for Cityscape? - i completely forgot its tomorrow!

are you all going?

malec
October 4th, 2009, 10:31 AM
So this project has gone from 900m towers to one small island with a few villas then. :lol:

docc
October 4th, 2009, 10:46 AM
^^ To start with.

malec
October 4th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Some pictures of those villas.

http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/villa1_day.jpg

http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/Dubai-villa3_night.jpg

http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/townhouse_view1.jpg


And the source:
http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/2009/10/meraas-coming-back-to-life.html#more

Guest89
October 4th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Wait, I don't get it.

They will be in the sea close to the shore as the original master plan called for? OR Are they going to be on land?

I hope they build the skyscrapers soon (Original masterplan)

malec
October 4th, 2009, 01:57 PM
^^ If they build at all then they'll probably use that island that they already reclaimed.

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:08 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,One Dubai, Meraas stand

http://i38.tinypic.com/2zqcsj8.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2r5x3bb.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/34te35s.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/wme1wp.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/28rxo8.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:12 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,One Dubai, Meraas stand

http://i35.tinypic.com/2ldjcpk.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/ehkltf.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/minfk3.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/besx74.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/j6hn9t.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/iyin7n.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:19 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,One Park Avenue, Meraas stand

http://i37.tinypic.com/jfge84.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/24ybhvt.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/30tjwpy.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/15ohs03.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2lu41hv.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:28 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,Meraas Tower-Park Gate, Meraas stand

http://i34.tinypic.com/2irwxsl.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/n5ipex.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/1zytzkx.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/ev7rzl.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:33 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,Jumeirah Gardens, Meraas stand

http://i38.tinypic.com/10i776g.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/1zqg7pt.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2iq2it.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/5bsk2a.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/be7pmh.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/10wvcky.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:36 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,Jumeirah Gardens, Nikken Sekkei stand

http://i33.tinypic.com/ipse2x.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/b8sa9s.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2v14ufn.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2u6pttl.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:40 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,Jumeirah Gardens

http://i35.tinypic.com/2gw9vo2.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/23mof4n.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/28tf1uu.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/f9mh77.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/11sdsao.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:44 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,Jumeirah Gardens

http://i38.tinypic.com/2943s3k.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/awpzmh.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/akfr5g.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/mcvjm9.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/24desma.jpg

Imre
October 5th, 2009, 04:47 PM
05/October/2009

Cityscape 2009 ,Jumeirah Gardens

http://i36.tinypic.com/25txhef.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2qdy4yb.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/352f76f.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/241l2qe.jpg

Stephan23
October 5th, 2009, 08:19 PM
We could only look forward to the next year ! Maybe it happens... :hm:

Hope so...

Blizzy
October 5th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Talk about attention to detail.

jorge antar
October 9th, 2009, 09:21 PM
Jumeirah Gardens on track

http://www.gulfnews.com/images/09/10/08/09_bs_jumeirahgardens_4.jpg

By Suzanne Fenton, Staff Reporter
Published: October 08, 2009, 23:25

Dubai: The first residents of the phenomenal Dh350 billion Jumeirah Gardens project could potentially move in within the next two and a half years.

Jumeirah Gardens was launched at last year's Cityscape event and was amazing both in terms of ambitious design and outrageous cost.

While Meraas has seemingly kept a low profile this year, in fact a lot of work has gone on behind the scenes, reassessing the masterplan and talking to investors.

In hindsight, October 2008 wasn't the best time to launch a new project, especially one of this scale, however Sina Al Kazim, chief business development officer of Meraas, said that he had no regrets.

"Not at all. The launch gave us a good name and since then, we've gone to banks and re-strategised and we've spoken to our investors to try and meet their requirements," Al Kazim said.

The masterplan of the project is now being revisited."It's about quality not quantity. Of the visitors to the stand, around 70 per cent are serious investors and are looking for a good opportunity in the right location. It's in line with investor demand, it's what the market is looking for," Al Kazim told Gulf News.

The masterplan is also now flexible enough to withstand more changes depending on how the market performs going forward.

Attention is first being focused on one of the islands of the projects, the 7.5 million square foot East Bay which is being redesigned "for today's market".

The island will comprise freehold residential units, including townhouses and villas, retail space and will also feature a 200-room, five star hotel. The hotel has been bought by an investor and the operator will be announced in November.

About 55 per cent of East Bay has been sold and funds will be received in line with construction milestones. Original plans for towers and a hospitality are no longer the focus.

"Infrastructure is a priority. [With] the Metro launch, our landbank is within close proximity to Metro stations. As long as the infrastructure is sound, real estate will also be sound," said Al Kazim.

Meraas has started reclamation of the East Bay island and hope to complete it by the end of 2010.




"The island will be completed within a year and within to two and a half years residents will be living on the island," said Al Kazim.

While housing on the island is aimed towards the higher end of the market, Al Kazim said that his company will look at buildings based on gaps in the market, such as affordable housing.

Townhouses on East Bay start at a surprisingly reasonable Dh650 per square foot. There were set to be six islands in total when complete, including the commercial island, a 'mini-Manhattan'.

However, development on these will start once demand is proven to be there. When East Bay exceeds around 75 per cent and demand is still there, construction will go ahead with the rest of the islands and also the towers on the mainland.

Stephan23
October 9th, 2009, 09:27 PM
:omg: It looks like it really happens !!

malec
October 9th, 2009, 11:19 PM
^^ Let's save those smileys for when construction actually starts.

Imre
October 10th, 2009, 05:10 PM
47 pics

Jumeirah Gardens,One Dubai,One Park Avenue,Park Gate,Meraas Tower photos,Cityscape Dubai 2009

http://picasaweb.google.com/imresolt/JumeirahGardensOneDubaiOneParkAvenueParkGateMeraasTowerPhotosCityscapeDubai2009#

xingu
October 11th, 2009, 02:47 PM
Had an amusing conversation with one of the PR girls on the Meraas stand during the exhibition who insisted that this model was to scale :D

DXBQuantum
October 12th, 2009, 06:52 AM
^^^ LOL

Stephan23
October 18th, 2009, 12:52 AM
Good progress at the offshore development !!! :eek: :omg:



http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/37000/37632/dubaiworld_ast_2009036_lrg.jpg

The-King
October 18th, 2009, 11:14 AM
that picture is old. They haven't made any progress for months now, everything on hold.

Julito-dubai
October 18th, 2009, 06:01 PM
I flew over it. Absolutely zero progress

Imre
November 3rd, 2009, 05:10 PM
03/November/2009

Jumeirah Gardens , demolution in full progress

http://i35.tinypic.com/3498588.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2zg6fzm.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/15nruwp.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2czrgw5.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/noyf4z.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/xm3diu.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/1434aww.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2vkcbuu.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2wlrd4w.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/iclnv9.jpg

Chakazoolu
November 5th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Satwa is disapearing... seems kind of weird seeing this as desert again.

Imre
November 5th, 2009, 06:36 PM
05/November/2009

Jumeirah Gardens site

http://i38.tinypic.com/1zqfryq.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/2e1vxi9.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2m3mrt2.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/t8l0f4.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2wnz9yb.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/ossc5y.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/w97g93.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/16kxaqe.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/555s8l.jpg

Richard Head
November 5th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Aerial shot. No idea what's happening in this plot. Anyone?


http://i35.tinypic.com/1058llt.jpg

Imre
November 5th, 2009, 07:26 PM
ON HOLD , nothing there, same plot:

03/November/2009

http://i34.tinypic.com/2zg6fzm.jpg

malec
November 6th, 2009, 12:52 AM
That was supposed to be the site for the hanging gardens type buildings.

malec
November 6th, 2009, 12:55 AM
This one was for One Park Avenue

http://i34.tinypic.com/1434aww.jpg

Stephan23
November 6th, 2009, 08:24 PM
Great, start the progress... !! Hurry up !! :D

DennisS
November 7th, 2009, 10:34 AM
In a newspaper in the Netherlands called 'the technical newspaper' an article is written about a new order for 'Van Oord' to create an island 'Pearl Jumeirah' for Meraas. Is this the island part of this development?

The order is €130.000.000,- and (it was asked but) they didn't confirm it as a part of Jumeirah Gardens.

Btw, later on in the article they say that in Jumeirah Gardens the so called 2.4km Dubai City Tower will be build...

:cheers:

Dark Matter
November 7th, 2009, 11:20 AM
The island is plausible as it just might be a name for one of the islands for the Garden project.

I really doubt the 2.4km Dubai City Tower will be built though...

The Engineer
November 9th, 2009, 07:05 PM
In a newspaper in the Netherlands called 'the technical newspaper' an article is written about a new order for 'Van Oord' to create an island 'Pearl Jumeirah' for Meraas. Is this the island part of this development?

The order is €130.000.000,- and (it was asked but) they didn't confirm it as a part of Jumeirah Gardens.

Btw, later on in the article they say that in Jumeirah Gardens the so called 2.4km Dubai City Tower will be build...

:cheers:

Hope the story is true. But about the City Tower i doubt it. What is the real dutch name of the paper? Then i can read it to! (wat is de nederlandse benaming van het tijdschrift? Lijkt me een interessant artikel)

Imre
November 9th, 2009, 10:08 PM
09/November/2009

Jumeirah Gardens site

http://i38.tinypic.com/302p7ie.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/29p9miw.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/206c13r.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/122itmt.jpg

Dark Matter
November 9th, 2009, 10:54 PM
Having a hard time seeing any progress from this view.

Thanks for the pictures though.

Old Town Resident
November 10th, 2009, 09:29 AM
You cant see progress if it doesnt exist. no matter what the view.

Very clear on all threads that this is all on hold.

Dark Matter
November 10th, 2009, 12:53 PM
I was only looking since apparently they were destroying some houses.

smussuw
November 13th, 2009, 10:08 AM
do anyone know about the project of Meraas opposite to union cooperative in Safa 1? It is being built on the demolished houses area ....

Chakazoolu
November 13th, 2009, 10:55 AM
Yep, here is the link, its called Al Wasl Square

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=984152

The-King
November 16th, 2009, 10:02 PM
14/11/09
Reclamation is going on at the island next to the Dubai Drydocks, some kind of 'road' seems to be built towards the existing breakwaters.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2722/4105670409_e3b1b22333_o.jpg
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hang-out/4105670409/

Hollie Maea
November 16th, 2009, 11:09 PM
View of reclaimation from space, courtesy Geoeye
November 16 2009

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6812/reclaimation.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/reclaimation.jpg/)

:cheers:

Stephan23
November 17th, 2009, 08:31 AM
^^ :master: :cheers2:

Old Town Resident
November 17th, 2009, 09:37 AM
View of reclaimation from space, courtesy Geoeye
November 16 2009

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6812/reclaimation.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/reclaimation.jpg/)

:cheers:

Hollie, what planet did they base the "World" project on?

Julito-dubai
November 17th, 2009, 12:01 PM
They started again next to Mina Rashid!!!! Is this part of JGC?

Imre
November 29th, 2009, 08:13 PM
29/November/2009

Jumeirah Gardens , land reclamation

http://i48.tinypic.com/2luzx2w.jpg

Imre
November 29th, 2009, 08:16 PM
next to Port Rashid, this is part of the JG project or the Nakheel Port Rashid project?

http://i50.tinypic.com/4vibgy.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2hoixb8.jpg

Imre
November 29th, 2009, 08:44 PM
29/November/2009

Jumeirah Gardens site

http://i48.tinypic.com/2zt8xmt.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/30b02m1.jpg

Imre
December 3rd, 2009, 03:59 PM
03/December/2009

The World and Jumeirah Gardens site

http://i48.tinypic.com/b4sqvp.jpg

Dark Matter
December 3rd, 2009, 05:18 PM
It seems that some areas are getting a bit more open/slowly deconstructed but it's still not too clear.

Any clear progress Imre?

Imre
December 3rd, 2009, 05:26 PM
Wasl Square has good progress, many workers there from the ASGC.

Dar Wasl demolution works done , fencing in progress , 2 boards there but still U/C.

I saw a 3rd one , still no name .

I think the villas , commercial and retail projects still ok but the tall towers just dream now.

Dark Matter
December 3rd, 2009, 06:02 PM
At least it's something.

Thanks for the update.

Old Town Resident
December 6th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Thet still continue to demolish villsa in the area.

One more huge villa being flattened right now.

Flo Flo
December 7th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Hello

It's nice to see that this project hasn't been cancelled. :cheers:

But I'm a little bit surprised because I didn't know that Wasl Square was part of JG. It's really far away...

Imre, I have an enormous service to ask to you. If you can't or if it's quite long or boring for you to do that, it will definitely not be a problem for me.
Last year, in CityScape 2008, you posted quite large pictures of the project. To be honest, I saved them in my personal computer because for me, JG is the very best project ever presented in Dubai.

Would it be possible for you to upload pictures you made this year in Cityscape in the original size (I mean without resizing them)? It would be a wonderful Christmas gift :).

But, one more time, if there is a problem, if you don't have time etc.... Please, don't do it

docc
December 7th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Thet still continue to demolish villsa in the area.

One more huge villa being flattened right now.

I guess they are preparing the area for when this project can actually take off (couple of years down the line?!).

Julito-dubai
December 7th, 2009, 04:35 PM
http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/2009/10/meraas-coming-back-to-life.html

a bit older, but interesting villas

Julito-dubai
December 7th, 2009, 04:36 PM
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091003/BUSINESS/710039940/1042
full story here

MarkusB
December 18th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Check out the link below for a bunch of shots made for the Jumeirah Garden visualization. The video is aprox. 2:30 minutes.

Link: http://www.mba-studios.net/?p=305

malec
December 18th, 2009, 11:40 PM
^^ Thanks for posting this. It looks very impressive. :)

Dark Matter
December 19th, 2009, 04:11 AM
I love the attention to detail in the video.

Chakazoolu
December 19th, 2009, 05:02 AM
Top right corner (green area) is where they have started land reclamation now, (next to port rashid).
http://i46.tinypic.com/6r5v89.jpg

Skyscraper on east bay island? Smaller version of Dubai City Tower maybe?
http://i45.tinypic.com/nwae0o.jpg

Dark Matter
December 19th, 2009, 05:58 AM
By the simple design and nothing announced for it yet, it seems to be in the design/proposal stage still (for the lone skyscraper on the island).

By the looks of it, it looks to be over 600 meters though, maybe even close to 700.

It will be curious to see what's planned for it. But if that is the final design, I don't like it. Doesn't look right at all. Looks like a Skyscraper you'd put in a cluster, not just one you'd put on an island.

docc
December 19th, 2009, 08:01 AM
Finally, some much needed density!

MarkusB
December 19th, 2009, 02:28 PM
By the simple design and nothing announced for it yet, it seems to be in the design/proposal stage still (for the lone skyscraper on the island).

By the looks of it, it looks to be over 600 meters though, maybe even close to 700.

It will be curious to see what's planned for it. But if that is the final design, I don't like it. Doesn't look right at all. Looks like a Skyscraper you'd put in a cluster, not just one you'd put on an island.


Yeah it is always interesting what finally will be build. The video is an edit for all shots we worked on for several design versions. As you see when comparing the two images Chakazoolu posted, the tower on the island is only in one version. But please dont ask me details, as I am not related to the construction team. we where "only" hired for visualization :)

Dark Matter
January 5th, 2010, 05:56 AM
I hope nobody forgot about this. lol

Guest89
January 12th, 2010, 04:30 PM
I wonder when they will increase the pace of construction. The recession should be almost over by the end of this year (Excluding United States unemployment). So I hope we can build this!

Chakazoolu
January 15th, 2010, 06:56 AM
Are we back to the good old days :)
http://i49.tinypic.com/b7glsz.jpg

docc
January 15th, 2010, 07:31 AM
^^ As in?

Dubaiiscool:)
January 15th, 2010, 07:39 AM
^^
He's probably referring the area on the one island where it looks as if they have started construction.

Dark Matter
January 15th, 2010, 07:42 AM
It does seem some changes have been made. Little, but something.

docc
January 15th, 2010, 08:05 AM
Hardly any difference from the previous photo's. Could be wrong though.

Dark Matter
January 15th, 2010, 08:21 AM
Thats the thing. I did say little. : P

Julito-dubai
January 15th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Are we back to the good old days :)
http://i49.tinypic.com/b7glsz.jpg

Not too sure. Seen something like this from the plane in October and it looked exactly the same...

234sale
January 18th, 2010, 01:53 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/2weiblx.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/2uq1uvt.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/11v5zmg.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/a5dzb6.jpg

bizzybonita
January 18th, 2010, 06:12 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/2weiblx.jpg

Good area for X sports . :)

bizzybonita
April 16th, 2010, 06:19 PM
Meraas coming back to life

on October 4, 2009 11:21 AM

Tags: jumeira gardens, meraas deveopment, tony owen partners

The National reports that Meraas Development is "moving ahead" with its signature project in Dubai. You may recall the name Meraas from Cityscape Dubai last year, where they announced the Dh350bn (US$95.2b) Jumeira Gardens project. It turned out to be the last hurrah of the five-year property boom and the company disappeared as quickly as it had arrived.

Now, a year later, Meraas is planning to change the order of development and focus on select areas that could still sell in a slower market. And - surprise - that includes a manmade island off the shore of Dubai called East Bay Island where Meraas would build high end villas.

Tony Owen Partners in Australia won a bid last year to design the villas. Here are three of the renderings for your viewing pleasure.

http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/assets_c/2009/10/Dubai-villa3_night-thumb-550x214.jpg

http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/assets_c/2009/10/townhouse_view1-thumb-550x272.jpg

http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/assets_c/2009/10/villa1_day-thumb-550x296.jpg

http://blogs.thenational.ae/crane_country/2009/10/meraas-coming-back-to-life.html

http://www.tonyowen.com.au/

bizzybonita
April 16th, 2010, 06:28 PM
Crystal Tower - Dubai ( commercial )


http://i41.tinypic.com/28btyyq.jpg


http://www.tonyowen.com.au/

Dark Matter
April 16th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Wow.

I know it's unlikely to be built, but I hope so.

malec
April 16th, 2010, 06:43 PM
^^ That is in DIFC, must be very very old

AltinD
April 18th, 2010, 01:55 PM
^^ Yeah, one of the many proposals for that particular site.

Adam2707
May 13th, 2010, 08:46 PM
Stunning animations....They've left me speechless.

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lUT4HUGv8io

The-King
May 13th, 2010, 08:59 PM
the marketing for this project is A+. The videos are simply stunning anf very well done in details.

docc
May 14th, 2010, 07:25 AM
Maybe in 50 years from now?

bizzybonita
May 14th, 2010, 07:36 AM
i guess , by that time china will introduce to world some V.good luxurious finishing material so yes this animations could be a reality by 2050 .However, we could also see a local workers in construction site looking for a couple of papers too !

Chakazoolu
May 14th, 2010, 05:53 PM
When can I move in :) amazing videos!

Adam2707
May 20th, 2010, 08:34 PM
For anyone that's interested, this looks to be the first design for JG.

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sbksbksbk
June 1st, 2010, 07:26 AM
the videos are great but think there is very little chance to such city appears on ground.
as there another crisis in euro zone no

sbksbksbk
June 1st, 2010, 07:28 AM
the videos are great but think there is very little chance to such city appears on ground.
as there another crisis in euro zone

Dubaiiscool:)
July 15th, 2010, 12:30 AM
Awad Mustafa

July 14. 2010

A man who formerly worked as an auditor for Meeras Holdings was charged in absentia yesterday with helping to steal Dh3.3 million intended to compensate individuals who lost money when the developer scrapped its flagship Jumeirah Gardens project.

Prosecutors told the Dubai Criminal Court of First Instance that RN, who is from Lebanon, transferred Dh3m from his Dubai bank account to Jordan, where it was retrieved by Eyad Hussam Eldin, who also worked for Meeras.

Eldin was convicted in January of embezzling Dh3.3m from the company – money that had been set aside to compensate clients affected by the cancellation of the project.

He was sentenced to three years in jail on January 31 and ordered to repay the money. However, prosecutors yesterday told the court that the Dubai Court of Appeals later reduced the sentence to one year and ruled that Eldin did not have to repay the money.

RN’s whereabouts are unknown.

Prosecutors say RN forged the signatures of a former director of the Dubai Land Department and a deputy at the department.

A director with the land department’s financial affairs division told prosecutors that 18 Meeras compensation cheques were found to be missing in May of last year.

“When we discovered the cheques missing we found out that one of them was actually withdrawn by someone who was not on the compensation receivers’ list,” said the director, who was not identified.

Investigators discovered that RN withdrew the money in his name, placed it in his HSBC account, and then transferred Dh3m of the money via wire transfer to Jordan, according to court documents.

It is the third case brought by the property developer against former employees who either embezzled funds or revealed sensitive information relating to the Jumeirah Gardens project.

An American lawyer woking for Meeras Holdings, J C, was sentenced to three years in jail last month after being convicted of disclosing company secrets to a competitor.

The court adjourned the case to September 26.

amustafa@thenational.ae

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100715/NATIONAL/707149857/1010

jonny.rotten13
July 15th, 2010, 04:41 AM
Yes I have in mind developing a Dh700bn project twice as big and three times better than above. Looking for investors to pay based on renders and brochures. Send money first, THANK YOU. I CAN'T LOSE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU.

Imre
July 16th, 2010, 02:24 PM
16/July/2010

Meraas Office

http://i28.tinypic.com/2m464nt.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/201dl5.jpg

Julito-dubai
July 16th, 2010, 04:19 PM
http://www.cowi-gulf.com/menu/news/Pages/LastconstructionphaseofthePearlJumeiraIslandtotakeoffwithCOWIcontinuouslyinvolved.aspx

more info about the pearl jumeirah project which is part of jumeira gardens

Dubaiiscool:)
August 25th, 2010, 11:11 AM
^^
April 26, 2010.
http://i34.tinypic.com/2w73lo2.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9152730@N08/4925862258/

SA BOY
August 26th, 2010, 05:34 AM
Crystal Tower - Dubai ( commercial )


http://i41.tinypic.com/28btyyq.jpg


http://www.tonyowen.com.au/

this is very old and was one of the competition entries from PTW for the DIFC building, Id say its 8-9 years old

bizzybonita
August 27th, 2010, 11:18 AM
^^ Thanks alot for you're valuable input .

Parisian Girl
September 14th, 2010, 11:50 PM
Lively Satwa stands

Extravagant redevelopment plans almost did away with a part of Dubai's old-world charm. But as things stand now, its residents are enjoying a reprieve.

# By Liam Nelson, Features writer | Published: 00:00 September 15, 2010

http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/satwa-alive-and-well-1.681995!image/1618003921.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/1618003921.jpg http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/vendors-in-satwa-1.681997!image/4143711024.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/4143711024.jpg
As time passes a community that was destined for demolition thrives. Satwa enjoys a high level of loyalty among its inhabitants.

Image Credit: Silvia Baron/ANM

The concept model for Jumeirah Garden City is enormous in its own right. About the size of a large boardroom table, the model depicts an assortment of gleaming towers looming over a swath of lushly landscaped and highly geometric urban planning. One's eye is drawn immediately to three glass-clad edifices that rise more than 600 metres from a shared base, interconnected by a network of suspension style sky-bridges. In detailed drawings, the bridges are open to the heavens, revealing park-like public spaces among the clouds; a fitting ode to the singular ambition and optimism that marked Dubai's property market circa 2008.

Today, these futuristic towers, which were supposed to stride over Satwa, one of the oldest neighbourhoods in Dubai, remain consigned to the realm of the possible. The redevelopment of Satwa as a freehold zone, however, continues to hold great potential, partly because of the existing neighbourhood. "If this location is offered as a freehold option, no doubt it will have [an] edge over other locations as the infrastructure is well developed. The bigger question will be where in Satwa this option will be offered... we're sure that when this offering is made in the marketplace it will be well received," says Vineet Kumar, head of leasing and sales at Asteco Property Management Dubai.

But the fact remains that as the property market contracted in 2009, Jumeirah Garden City developer Meraas altered its course, adopting a wait and watch approach with the following statement: "Shifting away from the fast track development of its Jumeirah Gardens project, and in light of the rapid change in the real estate market and global economic conditions, Meraas Development is now focusing on adapting its master plan, designs and product mix to suit market conditions... Meraas is well poised to accelerate its development upon stabilisation of the real estate market."

The contrast

And so Satwa still stands, teeming with life and activity; part of the Dubai that you almost never see in the international press.

Stabilisation may not come for some time, as the latest Landmark Advisory report predicts that new inventory is expected to drive vacancy rates up to a potential high of 28 per cent by 2012. In the shadow of Jumeirah Garden's uncertain fate, the neighbourhood it was once set to replace remains a living testament to a more time-worn, yet frenetic and bustling version of Dubai. Satwa even merited a visit from the influential US travel show, No Reservations with Anthony Bourdain, in which Bourdain, a former chef and author of the best-selling book Kitchen Confidential visited one of Satwa's most visible culinary treasures: Ravi's Restaurant. In the same episode Bourdain also visited the Burj Al Arab, Dubai's super luxurious hotel, signalling that old Dubai and new Dubai could both invite tourism, as both elements combine to create the contrast that makes Dubai so interesting.

Not all of Satwa was spared from the bulldozer's blade though; many villas were knocked down before the project went on hold, with residents often learning of their home's demise when they returned one day to find an ‘X- spray-painted across their front door. And yet others, who had dutifully moved out of condemned structures, were later allowed to move back into their homes. Amid all this confusion, with its commingling sense of loss and reprieve, Satwa endures.

Callan Emery and his family have lived in Satwa for years, and they won't be leaving if they can avoid it. In 2009, the house they were leasing in Delta Village, near Ravi's Restaurant was marked for demolition. The family gave up their place in the heart of things, ‘the real Satwa experience,' as they call it, moving to a villa on the Al Bada'a side, which the Emery's semi-jokingly refer to as the ‘posh end.' They're paying a lot more now, and while their old home was ultimately spared from destruction, they weren't able to move back in. And yet they're still living in their favourite part of Dubai: "I like the hustle and bustle," explains Callan, "I can find pretty much anything I'm looking for and can get it at really reasonable and negotiable prices."

With midday temperatures in the 40s, Satwa, like many other Dubai neighbourhoods, seems to come alive on summer nights. As the hot drowsy day fades into darkness, Satwa's colourful and eclectic store fronts glow with various shades of fluorescent and neon, as people in sundry international garb make their way through the evening air. In one block you might pass a plumbing supply store, a barber's shop, a pet store, or a venue whose inventory defies description. With Dubai's surfeit of gleaming retail options, it's places like Satwa that fill in the cracks in an otherwise overwhelming barrage of consumer goods. At odd intervals, Satwa's retail chaos assembles into order, where several building supply shops line up in a row, competing for your dirhams in close proximity. Here even order can seem something of an accident, and Satwa is all the more alive and exciting for it.

Cultural flavour

Jason Rezaian, a Tehran-based journalist and entrepreneur, always seeks out Satwa on his frequent visits to Dubai: "Satwa for me defines all that is right about Dubai," explains Rezaian. "All those who would have you believe that nothing existed here before the malls and towers need only to stroll down the avenues in Satwa and breathe in all the cultures that have been commingling there now for decades." As a visitor, Rezaian takes full advantage of the neighbourhood's culinary and grooming bargains... his three favourite Dubai businesses are all based in Satwa: "Ravi's, Al Mallah, and the Diva Gents Salon. I can get a great curry, wash it down with fantastic fresh-squeezed juice and then have my nostrils waxed all in one affordable trip." While a redeveloped Satwa might offer these same services, it's fair to say that the prices, products and atmosphere would be hugely different.

Merly, a 20-year resident of Satwa, can't imagine Dubai without her adopted home: "I don't think so, its jut too difficult to imagine" she says cheerily. Merly works at Book World, one of Satwa's many scruffy, downmarket treasures. With just a handful of used bookshops in the entire emirate, Book World's assortment of dog-eared offerings testifies to the enduring value of things potentially cast aside. Speaking to Merly on the phone, I picture her behind the counter at the shop, walled in by books on either side: "Satwa can sometimes feel like a small city in the Philippines," she says. "Walk down my street and you'll hear a mixture of Tagalog and English among other languages. But it wasn't always like that. When I came to Satwa in 1986, there were fewer people here in general, and we'd get so excited whenever we saw a fellow Filipino that we would wave excitedly; it was such a rare occasion." As Satwa grew, sections of the neighbourhood took on a large Filipino population, formulating what Merly refers to as "Little Manila", a place that has become a sort of proxy for her own country: "Dubai feels like home now, and this neighbourhood is the next best thing to actually moving home, which I won't do until I'm older." Merly's two boys were born here, and for her the neighbourhood is full of memories and promise. "I used to get up early to walk to the beach each day. The great thing about Satwa is that it's one of the few places where you can stroll around without one penny in your pocket and still have a nice time."

Low vacancy

Rents in Satwa run the gamut from Dh35,000 for a small studio, to three-bedroom luxury apartments priced at Dh170,000, to large four-bedroom villas commanding Dh240,000. Prices vary by location and quality, but one constant encountered in researching this article is that there's actually very low vacancy in Satwa as measured by listings; none of the agencies we spoke to had anything to show. In part, this may because those units that were demolished have effectively increased demand. But in that story is a message of resilience; Satwa enjoys a high level of loyalty amongst its inhabitants, who told me over and over again that they have a hard time imagining life outside their chosen neighbourhood.

"Satwa is part of Dubai's heritage, Emery told me: "If it were to be knocked down it would be a sad loss as there is really very little of the old Dubai remaining." Which is why Emery and countless others like him are staying put; those who love Satwa want to enjoy it as long as it lasts, however long that may be.

35k

Rentals (in dirhams) for a studio in Satwa. Gulf News (http://gulfnews.com/about-gulf-news/al-nisr-portfolio/freehold-monthly/articles/lively-satwa-stands-1.678814)

http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/satwa-1.681999!image/1708638156.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/1708638156.jpg
Painting representing Satwa's Life

*Image Credit: Guillermo Munro/Gulf News

LoverOfDubai
September 15th, 2010, 09:17 AM
This article demonstrates what a true treasure Satwa is for Dubai. It would be a shame and disaster to lose it.

Thanks so much for sharing the article with us, Parisian Girl.

Parisian Girl
September 15th, 2010, 08:33 PM
You're welcome:cheers:

I totally agree with you here, LoverOfDubai, I mean, I'm all for progress and new things, but I'm also a great believer in retaining as much of the past as possible. There is so much old-world charm in these neighbourhoods/communities and it would indeed be really sad to see them go. The new can be incorporated and exist beside the old. Of course, if the willingness and desire is there in the first place then anything is possible.

Chakazoolu
September 16th, 2010, 03:41 AM
I say knock it all down, and build JGC

city of the future
September 16th, 2010, 04:16 AM
thats not a good idea I think because where are al those people gonna move to? Dubai needs its affordable housing, not some useless overpriced luxury, which is why i think the property market went down

LoverOfDubai
September 16th, 2010, 08:09 AM
I say knock it all down, and build JGC

I agree with City of the Future on this, Chakazoolu. The area is home to many residents already. Where will they all go? Also, why should a thriving community that has a well-known identity and brand be destroyed? It would be a waste of money and time.

I understand that the area is considered to be old and maybe even run-down in comparison with some of the newer parts of Dubai. But this is why it should be kept. Any city needs to have a mix of old and new to prosper and thrive (not to mention preserving the historical aspect of Dubai that many people do not realize even exists). The area should be renovated and fixed-up, but not eliminated.

There is something people like and value in older neighborhoods. I think it has something to do with the idea that if it still exists today and is in good condition, you know it was built for you and the future. It adds value to the properties and makes the occupants/owners/users feel as if the buildings were built for them and not just a quick profit.

Cities are not about how tall a building is, how flashy an area looks, or how expensive the condos are. It is about people and the lives they lead. I hope the developers recognize this and work to preserve what exists, and add value instead of trying to create it from scratch.

The-King
September 25th, 2010, 01:25 PM
20/09/10
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ruba_m/5009790266/sizes/l/in/photostream/

^^ no progress on the first island.

bizzybonita
November 18th, 2010, 07:04 AM
The Jumeirah Garden’s project development sequence is as follows:

October 2008: Jumeirah Gardens City project launched:
Q4 2008: Project was placed “on hold” owing to the international credit crisis:
Q2 2009: The project theoretically resumed to the extent that the reclamation of one of the seven proposed islands - the East Bay Island [now Pearl Jumeriah Island] – commenced:
August 2010: Land reclamation works on the island were proceeding:
Q4 2010: Land reclamation of the East Bay Island now Pearl Jumeriah Island is due to be completed – and infrastructure works commenced:
2012: The first part of the Pearl Jumeriah Island project including infrastructure is expected to be completed.
Q4 2013: Pearl Jumeriah Island project is expected to be fully completed.
The construction of the man-made 75 hectare Pearl Jumeriah Island – has been undertaken by real-estate developer Meraas Development, a member of the Dubai government-owned Meraas Holding.

COWI - the main reclamation contractor on the Pearl Jumeriah Island project – has been working on the design and the site work since August 2009 – and are due to complete the reclamation works by the end of 2010.

Source

http://www.2daydubai.com/pages/pearl-jumeirah-island.php

The-King
December 12th, 2010, 11:30 PM
01/12/10
it seems like no progress on Pearl Jumeirah, project totally dead again?
Unfinished islands lying in the waters of the gulf...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5007/5237178846_1733d6d4a3_b.jpg
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/in-to/5237178846/
High-Res: http://www.flickr.com/photos/in-to/5237178846/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Old Town Resident
January 17th, 2011, 08:28 PM
The Pearl aint in the above image?????

Anyway, full scale backfilling of the foundations now going on throughout this area.

Face81
January 17th, 2011, 09:09 PM
The Pearl aint in the above image?????

Anyway, full scale backfilling of the foundations now going on throughout this area.

Yeah, it is! :)

Q4 will see construction start on the Pearl.....

http://i52.tinypic.com/2mqs40x.jpg

germantower
January 17th, 2011, 09:17 PM
damn, honestly, they should STOP construction on this one until the real estate market stabilise again. They will only throw more villas, n units on the market. damn

DXBQuantum
January 18th, 2011, 06:15 AM
I have never heard of "The Pearl Jumeirah"? - Is it a development in "Maritime City"?

There is The Pearl in Qatar and the Dubai Pearl in Media City, opposite The Palm Jumeirah?

What was this development supposed to be..

234sale
January 18th, 2011, 07:01 AM
^^ It has it's on thread.

Plots of land at 400 to 650AED sqft, FYI

Available for all

Face81
January 18th, 2011, 10:47 AM
^^ Correct.

The Pearl Jumeirah has land plots for sale, zoned for B+G+1 villas, available as freehold, with no service charges. The island will also have two 5* hotel resorts, one small shopping centre, 3 mosques and two schools :)

DXBQuantum
January 18th, 2011, 11:00 AM
Thanks for the info!

:cheers:

bizzybonita
June 15th, 2011, 05:33 PM
4.05.2011

by Andreas Nödler


http://img.******************/images/United-Arab-Emirates/Dubai/Blick-vom-Burj-Khalifa-auf-die-Sheikh-Zayed-Road-a24581669.jpg

The-King
December 25th, 2011, 05:25 PM
03/12/2011
absolutely no progress, did anybody hear news regarding JGC?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tagois/6446545483/sizes/l/in/photostream/
same here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/freekjo/6479065437/sizes/l/in/set-72157628338371221/

The-King
January 10th, 2012, 11:31 PM
02/01/2012
seems like I've got to correct my last post, in High-Res you can clearly see some machines on site and lights that are turned on, can we hope for a soft restart on pearl jumeirah?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6654073579_b346c52354_b.jpg
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arminrodler/6654073579/in/set-72157628731865279
High-Res: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arminrodler/6654073579/sizes/o/in/set-72157628731865279/

The-King
April 13th, 2012, 07:26 PM
09/04/2012
machinery on site but still no roads or infrastructure works...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7064/7063630089_b6f2916f35_b.jpg
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/d5e/7063630089/
High-Res: http://www.flickr.com/photos/d5e/7063630089/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Chakazoolu
April 25th, 2012, 06:55 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/wv723q.jpg

Chakazoolu
April 25th, 2012, 07:13 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2gt4z8l.jpg

Chakazoolu
April 25th, 2012, 07:19 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/244dz02.jpg

Chakazoolu
April 25th, 2012, 07:24 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/25pipte.jpg

Chakazoolu
April 25th, 2012, 07:32 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2latsw5.jpg

Chakazoolu
April 25th, 2012, 07:38 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/2q9joee.jpg

Chakazoolu
April 25th, 2012, 08:20 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/amryon.jpg

getroy
April 25th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Thanks for the pics

Face81
April 27th, 2012, 10:42 AM
^^^^ Thanks for the pictures, although they belong in the Pearl Jumeirah thread :)

Chakazoolu
May 5th, 2012, 05:59 AM
http://i49.tinypic.com/jrxixw.jpg

Chakazoolu
May 5th, 2012, 06:01 AM
^^^^ Thanks for the pictures, although they belong in the Pearl Jumeirah thread :)

Yes, and is apart of the JGC project :) Same like Atlantis is apart of PJ project. :)

Chakazoolu
May 5th, 2012, 06:01 AM
http://i47.tinypic.com/mi2po6.jpg

A Almarzooqi
May 5th, 2012, 08:37 AM
so the project is back for building ??

Chakazoolu
May 6th, 2012, 07:39 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/b8mqeb.jpg

Chakazoolu
May 6th, 2012, 07:42 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/auifrm.jpg

Chakazoolu
May 6th, 2012, 07:54 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/5wxk68.jpg

Old Town Resident
May 8th, 2012, 01:25 PM
Change title to breakwater thread.

eric9090
May 8th, 2012, 01:29 PM
This is an state of art piece of architecture

Old Town Resident
May 10th, 2012, 08:24 AM
This is an state of art piece of architecture


Not from my office window it aint.