View Full Version : DZ Bank l FRANKFURT l 208m l 53fl


Patrick
October 6th, 2002, 08:41 PM
DZ Bank
Frankfurt, Germany

HEIGHT: 208m
FLOORS: 53 floors
COMPLETION: 1993
ARCHITECT: ?

http://hometown.aol.de/Tower401/goldseriedgbank.JPG

http://www.kpf.com/images/Projects/dg_bank/579_5005az.jpg

SteelCity32
October 6th, 2002, 08:46 PM
Looks very interesting. But I like it. 8.5/10 :)

Sunflower
October 7th, 2002, 12:11 AM
Nice but the crown makes it look top-heavy.

7/10

Bob di Gills
October 7th, 2002, 12:26 AM
erm....it's ooook, I guess

7.5/10 :)

RafflesCity
October 7th, 2002, 12:47 AM
6.5/10

It is OK.

DrumCorpsAlum
October 7th, 2002, 06:50 AM
The crown turns this 7 into a 9.

Patrick
October 7th, 2002, 11:42 PM
i gave 9.0

man med
October 13th, 2002, 08:52 PM
Like it allot, 8/10 from me.

Fallout
October 14th, 2002, 01:50 PM
Among the best in Europe!
9.0

BMXican
October 28th, 2002, 07:34 PM
I agree
9/10

SUNNI
October 29th, 2002, 02:29 PM
10/10!
without the crown, itll be a 5, :D

TYW
January 1st, 2003, 05:54 AM
it needs a smaller crown
8/10

SeeMacau
January 4th, 2003, 02:00 AM
It's OK
8/10

medevil_kenivel
January 16th, 2003, 10:37 AM
8/10 it looks like a tool or weapon.

Wu-Gambino
January 17th, 2003, 01:34 AM
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7/10</td></tr>
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Exactly.

Evergrey
April 10th, 2003, 12:29 AM
4 Would be just a bland skyscraper without the hat... but with it... it's not bland, it's ugly.

The Messiah
June 27th, 2003, 11:30 PM
The crown does good on this tower.8.5/10

Falcaonet
June 30th, 2003, 08:21 PM
9/10.Love it.

renell
July 1st, 2003, 08:37 PM
6.5/10 a building is more than the crown. too bad it's only semi-cylindrical

goschio
July 2nd, 2003, 01:20 AM
When I moved to Frankfurt I used to live in that tower for about 2 weeks in the appartment of a friend.
( in Frankfurt every new tower has to provide a certain grade of residential area)
So 10/10

Patrick
August 18th, 2003, 12:45 PM
DZ Bank
Frankfurt, Germany

HEIGHT: 208m/682 feet
FLOORS: 53 floors
COMPLETION: 1993
ARCHITECT: Kohn Pederson Fox Associates


Located along the famous Mainzer Landstrasse in Frankfurt, the site faces south to a commercial/retail sector and north to an adjacent residential community. Our building strives to acknowledge and represent this duality.

The urban juxtaposition of this site inspired a new composition for the tall building; a composition of three parts. Of these, the two external parts respond to the commercial-residential dialogue. These parts are intended to oppose each other. The third part represents the internal core biology of the building; like a skewer, it joins together the other two.

The tension inherent in this opposition is heightened by rendering one part in stone and the other in glass. The rectangular stone volume faces the residential neighbourhood and rises to a height of 150 meters (492 feet). This was the limiting height for tall buildings until 1989 and is clearly marked as an urban datum on Frankfurt’s skyline. The second volume is curved and rendered in glass. It addresses the commercial context and the Main River and gestures to the center of the old city of Frankfurt. It is terminated by a projecting cornice-fan which is intended to magnify the spatial quality of this gesture and also to convey a sense of “roof” to the plaza below.

This building is the first of three tall structures KPF has designed which employ a three-part composition as a method of establishing urban connections for a tall building.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/frankfurt02.jpeg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/frankfurt04.jpeg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/frankfurt05.jpeg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/frankfurt03.jpeg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/frankfurt01.jpeg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics02/frankfurt06.jpeg

AtlanticaC5
August 18th, 2003, 01:29 PM
It looks very good from one angle (the one with the round side), but it's only OK on the other side. Overall = 8/10

RafflesCity
August 18th, 2003, 02:11 PM
Not bad at all! 7.5/10

De Snor
August 18th, 2003, 10:11 PM
i like the top alot

The Messiah
August 18th, 2003, 10:43 PM
I fucking love it!:gunz:
8.5/10

Wu-Gambino
August 19th, 2003, 01:25 AM
7.5/10

I like the color, but the it looks dull from the back. The rim looks decent, but it might look better if it were to go around the whole building. That way, the building wouldn't look so plain from the back.

BGT
August 19th, 2003, 02:00 AM
8/10

Patrick
August 19th, 2003, 04:31 PM
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4887

this is an older thread about this tower



i gave it a 10, just love this tower there!

james2390
August 20th, 2003, 04:14 AM
one of my favorites in europe, 10

Roch5220
August 21st, 2003, 12:27 AM
Pretty decent. 8/10

tayser
August 22nd, 2003, 11:41 AM
one of Euro-land's best

8

SUNNI
August 22nd, 2003, 02:03 PM
sweet;) 10/10

Galactica
August 23rd, 2003, 06:34 PM
This building is No.245 ???????


There is something wrong on this thread.

Patrick
August 24th, 2003, 03:33 PM
I just did it #245 cos

#244 was also 208m tall
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36954&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

and #247 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49748), too and I did not find #245 and #246 in this subforum so I took #245

SeeMacau
August 26th, 2003, 12:57 PM
9/10
I like it !!

SeeMacau
August 26th, 2003, 12:58 PM
This building looks very similar to the one in Shanghai (I can't remember the name of the building)

ekstaza
August 26th, 2003, 04:19 PM
Nice skyscraper - 9.

il fenomeno
August 27th, 2003, 09:26 PM
best scraper in whole fucken yurop. 10/10. would like to give it 11/10

SteelCity32
August 29th, 2003, 03:38 AM
Nice. The color is bland, but nice!

9/10

renell
August 29th, 2003, 10:42 PM
looks like Robinsons Equitable Tower meets City Gate. it's ok 7/10. and it's tall;)

airsickpenthousedweller
August 29th, 2003, 10:46 PM
The structure on top is oversized. The rest is dull.

4/10

Winus
September 3rd, 2003, 05:27 PM
Beautiful! 8.5

New Jack City
September 4th, 2003, 01:47 AM
4/10...I don't like it. The shape is awful, parts of the building are attached all over the place, too different facades, and what's with that useless circular piece of steel at the top? The only thing I like about it is the shiny glass facade on the front of the circular portion.

Winus
September 4th, 2003, 03:33 PM
http://www.student.tue.nl/n/e.m.scholten/dz1.jpg
http://www.student.tue.nl/n/e.m.scholten/dz2.jpghttp://www.student.tue.nl/n/e.m.scholten/dz3.jpg
http://www.student.tue.nl/n/e.m.scholten/dz4.jpg

Kaneda
September 4th, 2003, 07:29 PM
Love it ! :) The top is soo cool. And its also pretty slim. 8.5/10

Eastender
September 14th, 2003, 05:56 AM
love it because it always looks different, depends how you look at it 10

Fabio
November 9th, 2003, 02:51 AM
9/10


Another one with great front, but bad back.

Fabio
November 18th, 2003, 01:41 AM
10/10

no words

Sniper
November 19th, 2003, 12:01 AM
Nice!!!!
8/10

MCC
December 31st, 2003, 08:03 PM
8.5/10

james2390
January 24th, 2004, 05:51 PM
10/10

R@ptor
January 25th, 2004, 03:44 PM
One of my favorite buildings. 9.5/10

wolkenkrabber
January 26th, 2004, 02:49 AM
4,5 the crown makes me wann jump

Imperfect Ending
January 26th, 2004, 05:59 AM
10

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Volker
January 26th, 2004, 07:34 AM
10 Punkte, schönes Hochhaus!

DamienK
February 13th, 2004, 10:21 PM
Interesting crown, reminds me of the Statue of Liberty. 8/10

ryanr
April 3rd, 2004, 02:58 PM
Looks similar to a building in Ortigas, Philippines called Robinsons Equitable Tower. I love it...9/10

BrainWashington
July 6th, 2004, 09:22 PM
nice tower 8/10

Sitol447
November 3rd, 2004, 05:50 PM
9,5/10 - I like it!!

empersouf
November 3rd, 2004, 09:05 PM
8.5

Monkey
November 13th, 2004, 10:36 PM
As with most of Frankfurt's towers, this is overrated. Apart from that curved roof feature, it's actually fairly dull imho.

6/10

andysimo123
December 4th, 2004, 11:47 PM
7/10

Caiman
December 5th, 2004, 12:59 AM
9/10 I love it!

David3820
December 5th, 2004, 05:43 AM
Although it's tall, has an interesting shape and isn't too fat. I don't think it's that great. It's just too wierd to look at for me. 5.5/10

Chibcha2k
December 6th, 2004, 06:47 AM
its lovely...i don't like much that "hat" but...its what gives the tower character...its an awesome design 9.5/10

andysimo123
December 15th, 2004, 03:49 PM
8/10

AtlanticaC5
December 15th, 2004, 09:35 PM
8/10 Tall, some sides looks good, some don't.

Monkey
December 23rd, 2004, 09:12 PM
It's quite good, but nothing spectacular. Without wishing to sound like a troll, I think the majority of Frankfurt's skyscrapers are overrated ... including this one. I do love Commerzbank though.

7.5

Mike
December 27th, 2004, 08:46 AM
I hate that building. No offense please but it looks "female". 5/10.

Raine
January 6th, 2005, 05:25 PM
not bad, but it could be better
8,5/10

therock
January 10th, 2005, 07:01 PM
8.5/10

TYW
February 4th, 2005, 06:52 AM
everything is very nice exept for it's huge crown

8/10

Þróndeimr
February 19th, 2005, 02:37 PM
7.5/10

Reflex
March 5th, 2005, 06:10 PM
Very nice! 9.5/10.

london-b
March 8th, 2005, 01:52 AM
It's ok, I like buildings with the crown like that, 7.5/10

MattSal
April 1st, 2005, 01:11 AM
After playing SimCity 4 for hours, you get to appreciate this building. I give it a 9/10. :okay:

SoboleuS
April 8th, 2005, 08:36 PM
Nice simple shape, and cool looking crown. One if my favourite European towers. 9/10

superskyline
April 9th, 2005, 03:30 AM
One of my favorite buildings! Great shape and the facade is wicked awesome. The "crown" thing is a great touch too!
9.5/10

Medo
April 9th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Superb tower, 3rd best in F. 9/10

Jasonhouse
April 12th, 2005, 02:33 AM
One of my absolute favorite European highrises, along with the nearby Messturm.

As I am a big fan of multiple masses and facades used to break up the bulk of highrises, and make them seem smaller and more human in scale, I of course like this building. Only the shorter, square mass could use a little something to punch it up. Perhaps a different shade of stone cladding, or perhaps vertical banding of two different complimentary shades? This building is an absolute beauty IMO.

9.0/10

DRAKKO
May 24th, 2005, 08:21 PM
9/10

Henk
May 24th, 2005, 11:21 PM
7/10.

beta29
May 25th, 2005, 11:10 PM
9/10 amazing!!!!!!

Latoso
June 2nd, 2005, 02:41 AM
8/10

Jules
June 11th, 2005, 04:02 AM
9.

jimm
June 15th, 2005, 10:51 PM
7/10

Chad
June 17th, 2005, 03:47 AM
Looks great from the front with an extraordinary decorative fins on the top and fabulous glass-curv corner. On the other Hand, form the back it looks nothing special at all. Half Concrete Half typical glass wall, I guess thats why most of it's photograph are taken from the front angle.
Non the less, It's still one of the must see skyscrapers in Frankfurt!

8/10

FJP
June 17th, 2005, 09:47 PM
Is not my favourite tower of Frankfurt, 8/10

CborG
June 23rd, 2005, 11:49 AM
That backpack ruins the building, 8.5/10

decapitated
June 23rd, 2005, 04:36 PM
Great one:) 9/10, and the crone is heated in the winter - we don't wanna somebody to get killed down there on the street;)

Accura4Matalan
June 24th, 2005, 01:55 PM
9/10. Beautiful.

DRAKKO
July 1st, 2005, 08:30 AM
8.5/10

DRAKKO
July 3rd, 2005, 12:45 AM
8/10

Zarkon
July 11th, 2005, 12:48 AM
7.5/10

ROYAL BLUE
July 13th, 2005, 12:10 AM
8/10

CborG
July 23rd, 2005, 03:28 PM
8/10

Medo
July 26th, 2005, 06:17 AM
nice, 8.5/10

El_Greco
August 10th, 2005, 03:16 AM
8.5/10

jesarm
August 18th, 2005, 10:15 PM
my favourtie german bding. excellent 10/10

El_Greco
August 19th, 2005, 10:45 PM
9/10

7 World Trade
August 26th, 2005, 07:19 AM
the fan-like structure on the top of the tower gives it class, and the glass looks superb and help to give this building prominence. the masonry-part of the building looks a bit on the whitewashed side though...

9

1984 D.F.
September 4th, 2005, 05:45 AM
8/10

marpa
September 7th, 2005, 11:41 PM
I like it !!!

9,5/10

Smileyface
September 11th, 2005, 12:50 PM
9/10

jesarm
September 14th, 2005, 03:09 AM
This tower is one of my favorites in Europe

SGoico
October 12th, 2005, 09:40 PM
7,5 Nice

sander
October 16th, 2005, 05:09 PM
I`m not sure if the strange top is good addition to this building.
7/10

Skylandman
November 1st, 2005, 02:39 PM
5.5/10

www.sercan.de
November 2nd, 2005, 05:02 PM
10/10

Sinjin P.
November 3rd, 2005, 07:50 AM
Impwesive! 8/10

Blue_Sky
November 3rd, 2005, 12:30 PM
Great 9/10

forvine
December 6th, 2005, 06:05 AM
8.5/10

Principes
December 6th, 2005, 06:07 AM
9/10 GREAT building

Henk
December 7th, 2005, 11:44 PM
7.5/10.

IshikawajimaHarima
December 8th, 2005, 06:25 AM
6.5

forvine
December 19th, 2005, 08:24 PM
Nice crown indeed 8.5/10

Sinjin P.
December 20th, 2005, 03:06 AM
9.5/10 beautiful

anakin
January 1st, 2006, 11:21 AM
6/10 strange top

Scruffy88
January 3rd, 2006, 03:36 AM
9.5/10 beautiful. The back isn't as exciting but its not ugly either. If only it were taller.

thiz_iz_disco
January 8th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Mamma mia....amazing....it is a little bit similar like Ramat Gan city tower (I don't remember this building and city name, but it is the talllest of Israel) for height ilusion...but it is more rxpresive...& the CROWN is cool decision...this building is worth from me 10/10 and crown is belonging for real Queen :)

Moren-o
January 14th, 2006, 04:19 PM
The top is OVER the top imo.
Still a nice building though.
8/10

mr_storms
January 21st, 2006, 07:57 PM
8/10

SactoSpam
January 26th, 2006, 03:56 AM
7.5/10 -- what's up with the crown thingy?

SkyLerm
February 13th, 2006, 06:37 PM
Not my favourite in Frankfurt but it's OK so I give it a 7/10 ;)

Skyman
May 7th, 2006, 07:05 PM
7/10

Skyman
May 7th, 2006, 07:11 PM
The top is great

LAYZIEDOGG
May 22nd, 2006, 06:04 PM
Nice 7.5/10

skipperBill
May 22nd, 2006, 07:20 PM
8.5/10.

anakin
June 15th, 2006, 12:07 PM
6/10

ZZ-II
June 15th, 2006, 04:42 PM
absolutley great tower, 9.5/10

clarky
June 24th, 2006, 07:15 PM
8/10

gutooo
July 17th, 2006, 01:23 AM
9/10

gutooo
August 21st, 2006, 01:50 AM
8.5/10

_zner_
August 21st, 2006, 12:47 PM
10.

ex.cffuny
August 22nd, 2006, 02:12 AM
8/10

Miguel_Prat
August 31st, 2006, 03:29 PM
8.5/10

ZZ-II
September 2nd, 2006, 01:34 AM
i love this tower 9/10

Mosaic
September 3rd, 2006, 11:25 AM
10/10

bjoerna
October 11th, 2006, 01:42 AM
with the commerzbank-tower my darling in germany
8,5/10

Dreamlıneя
October 14th, 2006, 03:09 AM
9/10

kirby21
October 22nd, 2006, 11:58 AM
7.5 / 10

Very Controversial
October 30th, 2006, 06:25 AM
9/10, sweet

BlocQuebec
November 3rd, 2006, 11:21 PM
7/10.

_zner_
November 7th, 2006, 12:49 PM
8.5 nice.

Chinky Orz
November 17th, 2006, 01:00 AM
7.5/10 It's pretty cool

Skyman
December 27th, 2006, 09:38 AM
7/10

vincent young
December 30th, 2006, 04:39 PM
6/10

Why didn't they just use one facade texture and stop building above the semi-circular crown. Poor combination of shapes and forms in my opinion.

erbse
January 2nd, 2007, 05:28 PM
One of my Top 10 in Germany, definetly :)
This one invented to build crowns on scrapers, only for that fact it deserves a really really well 10/10!! ;)

W!CKED
April 12th, 2007, 01:31 AM
7.5/10

MDguy
April 12th, 2007, 02:04 AM
i don't know, the crown seems a little too big, but the facade is very nice imo. overall, it gets an 8.5/10

Piotr-Stettin
April 15th, 2007, 01:23 AM
7,5/10

shctaw
April 17th, 2007, 02:48 AM
8.5/10 Look good

Kelsen
May 10th, 2007, 09:10 AM
7.5/10

Ralphkke
May 19th, 2007, 12:58 AM
Nice one! A 8 out of 10.

Aleho
May 25th, 2007, 02:12 AM
9/10

Luxis
May 28th, 2007, 04:03 PM
great 8.5

Aliya
June 11th, 2007, 11:51 AM
8.5/10

marpa
June 22nd, 2007, 01:37 PM
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=kr1hochhaus-frankfurt-germany

9,5/10

Posener
June 30th, 2007, 12:05 PM
7/10 This thing on top doesn't look too nice IMO

Crizzy
June 30th, 2007, 09:06 PM
9/10

Skyman
July 3rd, 2007, 02:58 PM
8/10

Melinda
July 27th, 2007, 11:19 AM
9.

Crtza
July 31st, 2007, 12:17 PM
The crown is very nice

9.5/10

Skyline.Fan
August 3rd, 2007, 12:15 AM
just wonderful! :yes: 10/10!

patre
August 5th, 2007, 11:59 PM
i were in Frankfurt to take some pictures 1993
i love this building http://smiliestation.de/smileys/Liebe/116.gif (http://smiliestation.de/)

Racingfreak
August 6th, 2007, 08:28 PM
Very nice, 9/10

Moren-o
August 14th, 2007, 12:19 AM
Cool building, very slender.
8/10

MasonicStage™
August 18th, 2007, 12:40 PM
9,5/10 :cheers:

meus
September 1st, 2007, 02:57 PM
ok, but ugly top

7/10

Avalanix
September 2nd, 2007, 01:34 AM
Just awesome !
10.

LMCA1990
September 2nd, 2007, 06:19 AM
8/10

Astralis
September 27th, 2007, 01:14 PM
10/10 :bow:

MasonicStage™
September 29th, 2007, 04:31 PM
10/10

RON-E
September 29th, 2007, 07:34 PM
3/10

Astralis
December 27th, 2007, 07:32 PM
10/10 :okay: :master:.

IMPRESARIO
January 21st, 2008, 04:08 AM
has its moments, 8!

Sound.
January 26th, 2008, 01:26 AM
7/10

Halabalooza
February 24th, 2008, 11:55 AM
6 its meh

Prince Victor
February 28th, 2008, 05:35 AM
10/10 I like it very pretty. :nuts:

GOR@N
April 13th, 2008, 03:56 PM
8/10

Fundador
April 19th, 2008, 07:51 AM
8/10

matejkos
June 12th, 2008, 10:40 AM
top is weird to me
6/10

meds
June 21st, 2008, 07:56 PM
8/10

Kachle
July 11th, 2008, 10:31 AM
Iconic crown, good shape, nice color: 9.5
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/2655754818_3401c129a4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23835393@N04/2655754818)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2654924329_38bb919a48_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23835393@N04/2654924329)By Kachle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23835393@N04) on flickr

Mateus_
July 23rd, 2008, 12:30 PM
8/10

W!CKED
August 2nd, 2008, 11:58 PM
8/10

Rutger1991
August 23rd, 2008, 02:30 PM
8/10 ^^
Nice crown!!!

meds
August 25th, 2008, 03:31 AM
cool

8.5/10

Miguel_Prat
August 25th, 2008, 03:31 PM
10/10

Rutger1991
August 25th, 2008, 11:51 PM
8/10 :)

Malbo
October 27th, 2008, 04:05 AM
6/10

Patrick
October 31st, 2008, 03:14 PM
edit out :)

Patrick
October 31st, 2008, 03:14 PM
oops now I see this thread is doubled :D

can a mod merge these? is it possible to merge polls?

here is the other (newer) thread.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=55242


edit: thx, it's done :)

System_Halted
November 2nd, 2008, 04:26 PM
I love this tower. 10/10

Ni3lS
November 2nd, 2008, 11:18 PM
8/10

briker
November 9th, 2008, 10:27 AM
8/

Eric Offereins
November 11th, 2008, 03:08 PM
8/10

Bas B
November 15th, 2008, 09:45 AM
9/10 beautiful tower!

gradski
November 20th, 2008, 11:46 PM
8,5

tonyssa
May 3rd, 2009, 06:07 PM
7/10

henry hill
May 5th, 2009, 01:01 AM
9/10

xavarreiro
September 2nd, 2009, 12:59 AM
8/10

Nando_ros
September 22nd, 2009, 10:50 AM
8/10

PortoNuts
October 5th, 2009, 07:27 PM
Good crown. 8/10

sieradzanin1
April 6th, 2010, 05:57 PM
10/10

romanito
August 28th, 2010, 05:17 PM
8/10

Skyline.Fan
February 21st, 2011, 01:57 PM
:)

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yudibali2008
May 23rd, 2011, 06:25 PM
8.5/10

lulek89
May 23rd, 2011, 09:32 PM
Great! :) 9/10

v-sun
August 4th, 2011, 11:33 AM
7/10

OldBoy137
August 6th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Awesome tower! 8.5/10

mossimoh
December 26th, 2011, 09:14 PM
8.5/10