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Team: Polish National Team of football (u.s. soccer)

Location: Warsaw (Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=pl&geocode=&q=Warszawa+Polska,+stadion+narodowy&sll=52.237209,21.050749&sspn=0.03774,0.111494&ie=UTF8&ei=6fxYSs_GNqPNjAey9_DWAQ&cd=1&cid=1994536001830195245&li=lmd&ll=52.241598,21.045728&spn=0.009762,0.027874&z=16))
Capacity: 55 920
Use: Football & rugby
Architects JSK & GMP

1st part of construction: Constructor: Pol-Aqua
Timeline: 29.09.2008 - 20.03.2009
Cost: 125 416 000 PLN (28 699 313 €)

2nd part of contruction:
General constructor: ALPINE BAU DEUTSCHLAND, ALPINE BAU GmbH, ALPINE Construction, Hydrobudowa i PBG
Cost: 1 252 755 008,64 PLN (286 671 626 €)
Timeline: May 2009 - May 2011
Stadiums Special Features: Retractable roof
2 level car park under pitch (about 1770 cars)
Restaurant with the view on Wisła
National Museum of Sport

Visualisations:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4774/stadionnarodowy14.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6448/stadionnarodowy15.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5276/stadionnarodowy16.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6209/stadionnarodowy17.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/255/stadionnarodowy18.jpg
source: http://stadiony.net/project.php?p=155

Section/plan of stadium:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5894/rzutk.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rzutk.jpg) http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1849/snprzekrj.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snprzekrj.jpg)

Models of seats ALL/VIP:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/990/pc200296dx1.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc200296dx1.jpg) http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9646/pc200291uq3.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc200291uq3.jpg)

Model of roof:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3936/pc200308az8.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc200308az8.jpg) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3267/pc200309ug4.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc200309ug4.jpg)

Webcam 1: http://www.2012.org.pl/images/warszawa_aktualny_1024.jpg
Webcam 2: http://www.2012.org.pl/images/warszawa2_aktualny_1024.jpg

Official website: http://stadioncity.pl

Matches of EURO 2012 Opening match
Group matches
Quarter-final
Semi-final
Final

I like it! So they have finally decided on the design? ;)

http://stadiony.net/projects/stadion_narodowy_3/stadion_narodowy_302.jpg

http://stadiony.net/projects/stadion_dziesieciolecia_1/stadion_dziesieciolecia_107.jpg

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http://stadiony.net/projects/stadion_narodowy/stadion_narodowy03.jpg

http://stadiony.net/projects/narodowe_centrum_sportu/narodowe_centrum_sportu02.jpg

The design will probably look like the "basket" stadium above, it will be improved.

I think capacity is quite good.
But i am not sure, does a club will use it?

no club will use it, Legja and Polonia are building there own stadiums.

hope it will be still profitable.
Maybe Cup Final and National team maches will not be enough.
Concerts? But that i would prefer a stadium with a retraceable roof

They will be organizing concerts.


About the retractable roof, well it was planned but im not sure if it still is.

Nice, guys do you have any renders of the interior?

Is't just a concept tho. Now JSK have 6 moths to make construction design. Costruction start at the beginning of 2009. First match will probably played in autumn 2011.

Looks quite impressive.

Not bad one.

del

?

I don't think that Bydgoszcz deserves such stadium.

and Warsaw also doesn't?

no club will use it, Legja and Polonia are building there own stadiums.

both Legia and Polonia will use it for biggest matches.

del

Maybe a bit. Being a capitol of Poland shouldn't automatically mean that Warsaw deserves getting everything. There were lots of problems with the stadium, there was a natoinal discussion where to locate it - inside the old stadium or near it. Irritaiting.

That's just my point of view. Don't try to persuade me that I'm wrong because you won't manage to do so :)

please guys move this discussion to the polish forum, I don't think anyone outside Poland cares about how much you like/dislike your capital.

del

Lepiej?

Jakby teraz, k***a, Narodowy był w Warszawie :ohno:

Dear Mod, please erase posts no. 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17 and mine. Thanks

I quite like it, reminds me of the new Camp Nou.
Will a Euro 2012 SF be played here? And where will be the other?

well, one of the S-Fs but more importantly, the starting game. Dunno where the other is planned.

http://img.iht.com/images/v3/logo_all.gif

Poland picks designer for Euro 2012 stadium

The Associated Press
Published: November 29, 2007

WARSAW, Poland: Poland has chosen a German-Polish consortium to design its new national stadium, which will host the opening match of the 2012 European Championship.

Sports Minister Miroslaw Drzewiecki said Thursday that JSK Architects will design the new arena in Warsaw because of its experience in "more than 20 stadium projects" worldwide.

The stadium is to seat 55,000, and is scheduled to open in 2011.

Poland is co-hosting Euro 2012 with neighboring Ukraine and both countries face the challenge of building stadiums and upgrading dilapidated infrastructure.

Drzewiecki said he expected the stadium design to be ready in six months, and the ministry estimates the cost of the entire project to be 1 billion zlotys (US$408 million; €273 million).

A contractor still has to be selected to build the stadium, which will be located on the eastern bank of the Vistula River in the Polish capital.

The Euro 2012 final will be held at Kiev's redeveloped Olympic Stadium.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/29/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-Euro-2012-Warsaw-Stadium.php

I think the new Warsaw National Stadium will suck ass. The original capacity was to be 70,000, but now it will be 55,000. Seeing that the National Stadium will not have an athletics track, I may build another new stadium containing 70,000 seats and an athletics track for Warsaw.

What are the attendances to it's league matches? There is probably no point in building a 70k seater.

It is better economics to build smaller venues in this day and age.

What are the attendances to it's league matches? There is probably no point in building a 70k seater.

It is better economics to build smaller venues in this day and age.
The stadium will have no tenant on regular basis, at least no football club.
That's one more reason for not building a 70k stadium, unless Poland is looking forward to hosting the Olympics. But still, 55k may be expandable to 60 and that's enough. So- no reason really.

According to the designers (whish is JSK + GMP + SBP), the stadium will have a retractable roof, construction just like their previous design- Waldstadion, Frankfurt.

cool..very typical GMP design but with some creativity too

Nice, guys do you have any renders of the interior?

http://www.sbp.de/en/html/photo/phpfiwarschaua.jpg

3333333333333333333333333333333333333 tierrrsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :cheers:

amazing stadium, a few improvements to the roof and we are there!!!

The capacity is not final yet, till they show the construction design
im still secretly hoping for 60 000 at least

The conceptual project of the football national stadium (in Warsaw)is already ready
anounced the vice-chairman of the firm has informed TARPAPERS (MUZZLES) - architect co. ltd. mariush JSK Rutz. Project will be transferred to the national organization of sports.

We had to prepare a conceptual project according to agreement for 31 january and we have kept this deadline . Everything it is already ready. We will transfer the venue project this thursday to the national center of sport".


"we will show modal of thye stadium in scale 1:500.simultaneously , This is a good representation of how the stadum will look like when it is complete. There was a 40 + group of architects who worked for this, one and a half months". He added :

"A race track was not taken in consideration. They have ordered a a project for a football only venue and we have succesfully completed there order. It is too late now, to consider an athletic race track,".

"HOWEVER IF the city decides to use this venue for Athletics, they would have to modernize and adapt the stadium for athletics needs " says Skry.

In Rutz oppinion: "The project of national stadium is jaw dropping , spectacular , and amazing . I think. We are very pleased with it. We have put tons of work in to it and we are satisfied from the final results."

When conceptual project will be approved, we will proceed to more detailed work. We will move in even more architects/workers from Berlin and other places. The architects/workers will be temporarly located in Warsaw and they will deal with technical details and will make proper building project/plan. This group is already expanding over 100 architects.

The National football stadium will be built in warsaw in an existing "crater" stadium. It will accommodate 55 000 spectators (doesnt say if counting the vips or not).

Work on the building site will be started in this september of this year. First they will harden the building site. In march 2009, construction will begin. The venue will be completed by fall 2011.

On this stadium the opening match of Euro 2012 will be played.

The German company JSK has many projects such as in berlin, in china and republic of south africa.
It has also designed the soccer stadium of Legia in warsaw and it also design the Soccer Sadium, In wroclaw Poland.

The Summery:

:: The final design of the stadium is complete

:: The stadium will make u go wow!

:: The stadium is a pure Soccer Stadium.

The playing field can be raised to host athletics events. Thats awesome

The playing field can be raised to host athletics events. Thats awesome

No, the translation was poor. decided to translate it on my own. Now it makes sense.

No, the translation was poor. decided to translate it on my own. Now it makes sense.

Thats what the architects say at the JSK website..but I guess that option costs too much now.

UPDATE: The final design will be reavealed this Friday

it's good that all the process is going well! Plus, they will make a competition for the National Stadium surroundings in the next days, they plan to include some exposition areas, a conference center, some commercial buildings such as a hotel(120m height plan), a shopping center, sport arenas etc. If the chosen project is good it is going to be awesome!

THIS IS THE STADIUM:

How the stadium will look like, computer renders:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2599us9.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/2nlwfgy.jpg

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From tv:

http://i32.tinypic.com/303cr5g.jpg




The mock modal, seems not to have the right facade, printed. Maybe its just a bad model (due to deadlines):

http://i27.tinypic.com/1qibfp.jpg

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http://www.msport.gov.pl/gfx_news/665/752JSK_Nationalstadion_001.jpg

http://www.msport.gov.pl/gfx_news/665/753JSK_Nationalstadion_006.jpg

^^ It's official project, and looks amazing.

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a very, very nice stadium. Nice one Poland!

2 tiers :(
But interior looks a bit like new GS stadium :D

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Oh, i thought the 2nd tier is lil bit curved.
Sorry, than it doesn't look like new GS stadium

The onyl think i do not like is that the stands aren't parallel to the pitch

So which facade will it be?
this one:
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/4/4891/z4891514X.jpg

or this one:
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4891/z4891512X.jpg

I like the first one much better; it gives the stadium a lighter look and makes it look less like a basket.

In MY OPPINION, Its the secound one, the first one is a mock-model, which facade might had not printed out too well.

and...

The architect did say before he unvieled the stadium. That the facade will ressemble, the polish flag which is wavy and bla bla bla.

oh well, it still looks great.

I think the first facade is much better, but we really don't know which one is finally approved

Very London Olympic Stadium 2012 to me.

Very London Olympic Stadium 2012 to me.

in what way?
The roof construction is completely different, the facade is different, the stands are completely different...
could you please say a bit more?

aside from the curves along the top and the fact its smaller and has some pointless suspended needle thinga ma bober and the external art...looks about the same to me.

aside from the curves along the top and the fact its smaller and has some pointless suspended needle thinga ma bober and the external art...looks about the same to me.

Yeah, all the same. Seems only size matters for you after all. Hopefully you'll notice some more difference when London Stadium will be remodeled after the Olympics.
London roof construction is totally different;
bowl shape and stand division completely different;
facade different (ours is supposed to imitate a traditional Polish wattle basket lit in National colors, while in London there will be one piece of fabric- biggest in the World, just wrapped around for the Olympics)
That's why I asked if you could say something more about it.

Anyway- that "suspended pointless needle" happens to be the place, where the fabric that covers the pitch is kept. It will open similarly to an umbrella and spread over the pitch making the stadium a domed one, just like in Frankfurt...
maybe try and find some information first?

the only problem is wheather it;s gonna be ever completed and even if after fev years it will change into its ancestor the old X-lecia stadium because ther is no chance of making it profitable...

He has the polish stadium on its head !

http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/images/dress-up/acc/hats/international/mandarin.jpg

although the facade is completely different, the shape reminds the one in Cape Town:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4891/z4891512X.jpg

http://www.greenpointcommon.co.za/_imgs/gpca_stadium_4.jpg

although the facade is completely different, the shape reminds the one in Cape Town:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4891/z4891512X.jpg

http://www.greenpointcommon.co.za/_imgs/gpca_stadium_4.jpg

same architect :)

Cape town ok, but London Olympic stadium?

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4905/z4905102X.jpg

luckily the same roof was used in frankfurt for the world cup, so you have an idea of what it will look like.

Frankfurt+cape town!! true!!!! :bash:
but great design! :)

Certainly an improvement. Looks good...

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4905/z4905102X.jpg

:drool:

The city of Warsaw announced a huge international competition for an urban and architectual design for the 40 hectare area around the Stadium,They put a height limit of 160m in the area so we may see some new skyscrapers around the area.

The Project has to have:
A conference and exposition centre, with a main conference hall for 8000
A sports Arena for 20 000
A 5 star hotel
A minimum of 40 000msq of Office space
An entertainment center
A new metro and regional train station
An olympic quality swimming pool with 4000 seats*
lots of pedestrain friendly areas

Right next to that is another 36 hecters in the form of the former Warsaw Docks which will also see redevelopement. So a completly new part of Warsaw is going to Spring up around the Stadium :cheers:

*Not confirmed

its going to be amazing and ive heard theyre having a vote for the capacity anywhere between 52.000 - 77.000 to be decided i think when they decide the number of host cities

its going to be amazing and ive heard theyre having a vote for the capacity anywhere between 52.000 - 77.000 to be decided i think when they decide the number of host cities
Who's having a vote?

I heard that the committee thats in charge of Poland's bid will vote...not sure if its true i think i saw it on www.stadiony.net

I heard that the committee thats in charge of Poland's bid will vote...not sure if its true i think i saw it on www.stadiony.net
but the design is ready and from what I know after an interwview with one of the architects of JSK- this stadium is impossible to expand over the 55k without seriously changing the whole construction. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just very strange to have a vote like this after already paying for a concept of a 55k stadium.

yea fair enough i didnt even know it was true and it doesnt matter because the stadium looks awesome anyway!

if they select this venue for the final uefa will push for 65000 minimum

but the design is ready and from what I know after an interwview with one of the architects of JSK- this stadium is impossible to expand over the 55k without seriously changing the whole construction. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just very strange to have a vote like this after already paying for a concept of a 55k stadium.

give us some informations :D

I'm for all +60000 seats
But UEFA just want to sell more tickets each time! Their new 5 star stadiums rating is so stupid!!

only +70k can be 5 stars now!!

i think this star thing is over

IMO this will be the stadium for the opening match and the Kiev one the final stadium

its going to be amazing and ive heard theyre having a vote for the capacity anywhere between 52.000 - 77.000 to be decided i think when they decide the number of host cities

no, it's been already decided, 55.000

Construction start in October 2008!

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awesome!!
our sister stadium is going to be a beauty

Warsaw stadium is nice but overall the best in Poland will probably be Gdansk.

Yep, Gdansk and Wroclaw Stadium is very nice too. National Stadium is on the "3rd" place on my personal list ;)

great pics
capacity was 55k?
and do you know the number suits?

The facade is constantly changing... now it kinda looks like an evil empire. But it is really nice and cool

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/19774/stadion_narodowy_jsk512_1.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/19774/stadion_narodowy_jsk512_2.jpeg

The facade is constantly changing... now it kinda looks like an evil empire. But it is really nice and cool

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/19774/stadion_narodowy_jsk512_1.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/19774/stadion_narodowy_jsk512_2.jpeg

thats was a budget does to a stadium. design changes and value engineering are all a part of the process, to find a balance between aesthetics, design, functionality and cost.

old
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/4891/z4891513X.jpg

new
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/19774/stadion_narodowy_jsk512_2.jpeg

old
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new
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looks smaller now

new concept looks better

Mo- it also might have been because of the criticism that arised after finding similarities between facades of Warsaw and Cape Town.
I think it looks a lot more distinctive the new way.

Sercan, 60 boxes, 900 total capacity of these.

Thanks a lot.
Like Fener stadium
1 Estadio Santiago Bernabéu 253 or 207
2 Stade de France 168
3 Wembley 166
4 Estádio da Luz 156
5 Twickenham Stadium 150
6 Emirates Stadium 150
7 Aslantepe Stadi 149
8 OL Stadium 130
9 Millenium Stadium 124
10 Estádio José Alvalade XXI 120
11 White Hart Lane 120
12 New Juventus Arena 120
13 Landsdowne Road Stadium 110
14 Allianz Arena 106
15 Villa Park 104
16 New Bilbao Stadium 100
17 Estádio do Dragão 96
18 Amsterdam ArenA 83
19 Veltins Arena 81
20 Olympiastadion Berlin 76
21 Commerzbank-Arena 76
22 Estadio Vicente Calderón 74
23 Nou Estadio Valencia 72
24 Weser Stadion 70
25 Boleyn Ground 70
26 City of Manchester Stadium 68
27 Stadion Lokomotiv 60
28 Stadion Narodowy 60
29 Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi 60
30 Kadir Has Sehir Stadi 52
31 AOL Arena 50
32 RheinEnergie Stadion 48
33 Ricoh Arena 46
34 Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion 44
35 Borussia-Park 42
36 MSV-Arena 41
37 De Kuip 40
38 Néo Stádio Karaïskáki 40
39 Constant Vanden Stock Stadion 37
40 Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi 34
41 Volkswagen-Arena 32
42 Darlington Arena 30
43 Stade de Geneve 29
44 AWD Arena 29
45 The Hawthorns 29
46 LTU Arena 27
47 Estadi Camp Nou 23
48 Schluefweg 22
49 Stade de Suisse 18
50 Olympiakó Stádio Spýros Loúis 16
51 Zentralstadion 16
52 east-Credit Stadion 14
53 Fritz-Walter-Stadion 12
54 Signal Iduna Park 11
55 St. Jakobs Park 11
56 BayArena 10

Mo- it also might have been because of the criticism that arised after finding similarities between facades of Warsaw and Cape Town.
I think it looks a lot more distinctive the new way.

Sercan, 60 boxes, 900 total capacity of these.

i dont think so.
membrane above the height of the roof level is unnecessary and costs money.

i dont think so.
membrane above the height of the roof level is unnecessary and costs money.

that's why I wrote "might" and "also" ;)

Gdańsk stadium most probably will not be built at all..I hope so because it would be a big waste of money building it there...

^^ Envy leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

that's why I wrote "might" and "also" ;)

thats why i wrote "think" :)

CONSTRUCTION HAS STARTED



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:: 1st Phase: Inserting 100 poles different size and material, and then pressuring them untill, they get distroyed. In order to see which solution is the best.

:: 2nd Phase: Inserting about 2000 poles in the ground, or more

:: 3rd phase: Building the stadium bowl, with all the facilities inside.

:: 4th phase: Building/adding the facade and the roof to the stadium bowl


Correct me if Im worng

The old stadium looks like an old one in Leipzig, which was rebuilt for World Cup 2006, doesn't it?

The old stadium looks like an old one in Leipzig, which was rebuilt for World Cup 2006, doesn't it?

After all, it was the same side of the iron curtain :) Most stadiums on this side looked like that to be honest. But this one afterwards won't look that much like Leipzig- Zentralstadion was built "inside", Warsaw will be built "on top of".

After all, it was the same side of the iron curtain :) Most stadiums on this side looked like that to be honest. But this one afterwards won't look that much like Leipzig- Zentralstadion was built "inside", Warsaw will be built "on top of".

Yeah, i saw renders and i like your stadium. Stadiums in my country really suck, except one or maby two of them, that's why i'm happy with everithing new :)

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/5459/z5459733X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/5459/z5459728X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/5459/z5459723X.jpg

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Mmmm... :drool::drool::drool:

^^
It is only a small part of the visualisation, this year a virtual project will still be ready, any transferring will reportedly be possible oneself after the object in the Internet.

Sketch-up Power!!!!

more visualisation:
http://www.polskatimes.pl/fakty24/kraj/21832,wizualizacje-stadionu-narodowego,g,id,t,z.html#material

German football federation denies contact with UEFA over Euro 2012

The German Football Federation (DFB) on Tuesday denied British media reports that the ruling body UEFA has been in contact over Germany possibly replacing Ukraine as a Poland`s co-host for Euro 2012, according to dpa.

"There has been absolutely no contact with UEFA in relation to this question and also no official query. UEFA`s executive committee will discuss Euro 2012 at the end of September in Bordeaux," DFB general secretary Wolfgang Niersbach said.

The Daily Telegraph newspaper reported Monday that Germany was being lined up to replace Ukraine as co-host for Euro 2012 amid fears inside football`s ruling body that the East European country would not be ready to stage the event.

UEFA`s main concerns centre around the political situation in Ukraine, delays to stadium construction and worries over transport infrastructure, the paper said.

Under the contingency plan reported by the Telegraph, Poland would host most of the games along with the eastern German cities of Berlin and Leipzig.

dpa, Sports Plus


http://www.unian.net/eng/news/news-262937.html

Good news - http://sport.wp.pl/kat,37154,title,Wojewoda-podpisal-pozwolenie-na-budowe,wid,10180238,wiadomosc.html
Today Jacek Kozłowski signed a licence to build the National Stadium in Warsaw :cheers:

If Ukraine does end up pulling out hope they host matches in Dresden as well as Leipzig and Berlin.

No they just host them all in Poland, we will have enough stadiums. Gornik zabrze will build a 32 000 seater and it is right next to chorzow (a reserve venue), they could the same hotels and airport.

Legja's stadium (35 000) wold be a second venue in warsaw.

And then the reserve venues wold be hosts venues.

Thats 8 stadiums, thats how much u need to host euro.

Also we might have lodz/szczeczin and other citys building a 30 000 + stadium.

If Ukraine does end up pulling out hope they host matches in Dresden as well as Leipzig and Berlin.
:wallbash:
These are nonsenses thought up by journalists, there is never no option of organising the Euro with Germans - the German Football Federation alone denied that he was feeling like organising this Euro with Poland.
Euro 2012 will take place on Poland and Ukraine, it stayed a bit longer 4 years but Ukraine should make it with the structure of objects.

If this stadium is supposed to have a sports arena and a Olympic swimming Pool nearby, a complex like that would have required the main stadium to have an athletics track. I have never heard of a rectangular football stadium that has an indoor arena and an aquatics center closer to it.

I tried making my own similar version.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Sketchup/20080804164015_4m46s-1.png
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Sketchup/20080804170325_11m51s-1.png
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Sketchup/20080804164623_3m42s.png
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Sketchup/20080804184657_10m54s-2.png

New visualization ;)



http://images33.fotosik.pl/346/ad6c69d02e90604fm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=ad6c69d02e90604f)


http://images31.fotosik.pl/345/61ac170ee4ed9ceam.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=61ac170ee4ed9cea)
http://images34.fotosik.pl/338/e0c31cd18421915em.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=e0c31cd18421915e)
http://images34.fotosik.pl/338/ed4a67e6cae08192m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=ed4a67e6cae08192)
http://images24.fotosik.pl/262/48c451e016e1156em.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=48c451e016e1156e)
http://images28.fotosik.pl/262/1d4bffc1dc606160m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=1d4bffc1dc606160)
http://images32.fotosik.pl/338/7249bba3fc3ea16dm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=7249bba3fc3ea16d)
http://images23.fotosik.pl/261/ba012ae1202758a4m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=ba012ae1202758a4)


http://images34.fotosik.pl/338/1c5c69a9c59957bcm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=1c5c69a9c59957bc)
http://images32.fotosik.pl/338/f0e4fb797423a160m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=f0e4fb797423a160)
http://images24.fotosik.pl/262/6240c0e4eb92fd7cm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=6240c0e4eb92fd7c)
http://images33.fotosik.pl/346/567df20128a3c6c8m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=567df20128a3c6c8)

Wow this stadium is going to look great :)

when does construction start

^^
September 20th

when does construction start
They're already demolishing an old stadium which hollow will be used as a foundation of the new one:

http://wkwast.webd.pl/displayimage.php?album=21&pos=4
http://wkwast.webd.pl/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_4133.jpg

These are preparations for Redbull X-Fighters. Construction of the stadium will start 20 September.

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur-3yJ2vYVg

photos from redbull x-fighers:
http://x-fighters.narodowy.tv/foto/zawody_oficjalne/13.jpg
http://x-fighters.narodowy.tv/foto/zawody_oficjalne/21.jpg
more: http://x-fighters.narodowy.tv/foto/zawody_oficjalne/

and good news:
Wybrano wykonawcę pierwszego etapu budowy Stadionu Narodowego
PAP /16:41

Komisja przetargowa w Narodowym Centrum Sportu podjęła w poniedziałek decyzję, że wykonawcą pierwszego etapu budowy Stadionu Narodowego w Warszawie będzie Przedsiębiorstwo Robót Inżynieryjnych Pol-Aqua S.A. z Piaseczna.
Kontrakt będzie opiewał na kwotę 125,4 mln złotych. Umowa ma zostać podpisana do końca września, prace rozpoczną się - zgodnie z harmonogramem przekazanym do UEFA - 7 października.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=25079322&postcount=2197

You have chosen the contractor building the first phase of the National Stadium.
Contractor - Pol-Aqua S.A
Building start: 7th Oktober
The amount - ~35mln €

So construction of the first lower part of the stadium is gonna start this monday (29.09.2008)

Costs: 125,4 mln ~ 37 mln €

All National Sport Center is gonna cost around 350 - 400 mln €

:banana:

29.IX.2008

Dzień 1.szy


Pierwsze wrażenie: tyle samochodów? Czyżby jakaś impreza? ;)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5237/img9277resizefv7.jpg

Patrzę w tunel...
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1690/img9241resizecq8.jpg

... a tam ochrona :(
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6166/img9242resizeci8.jpg

Wprawdzie widać, że coś się dzieje na koronie...
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3340/img9243resizelp3.jpg

... ale co w środku?
Ano w środku też praca wre!
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/967/img9259resizegx5.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1097/img9260resizehk4.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3452/img9262resizerw7.jpg

A tu chyba prace ręczne i rozbiórka z pietyzmem - przecież ducha pierwszych sekretarzy trzeba uszanować! ;)
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7613/img9265resizemy7.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8913/img9266resizemu5.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5556/img9267resizert6.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1016/img9268resizerw3.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5402/img9276resizeem3.jpg

A wszystko to pod czujnym okiem obiektywów :cheers:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3240/img9264resizefd2.jpg

Jeszcze jedno spojrzenie na naszą przyszłą chlubę ;)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8623/pano1aym4.jpg

Niech pracują, pracują, pracują...
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3524/animation3yw2.gif

:banana::cheers:

Yea. It's a first day of constructing :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

First photos from the construction of national stadium, great, great, great:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Construction of Baltic Arena and stadium in Wroclaw is gonna start in december 2008 btw... :cheers:

Dont you think that 55.000k for the National Stadium is too small?Portugal, Scotland, and Grecce are a few times smaller than Poland but they have altleast one 60.000+ stadium.

Dont you think that 55.000k for the National Stadium is too small?.
No, it isn't too small. Completely it will be enough for Poland. Works started, construction of foundations will last on 14 April for 2009r, when it a performer of the construction of the stadium will be chosen and the other stage of the structure will begin. :cheers:

Also couple meters from this stadium, construction of Legia Stadium is gonna start this or next week (33 k) so that's enough.

They begun:banana:

Dont you think that 55.000k for the National Stadium is too small?Portugal, Scotland, and Grecce are a few times smaller than Poland but they have altleast one 60.000+ stadium.

It is too small, you are completely right, it should be 70.000, that would be perfect, but we have it keep as it is, it's not big, but at least it's gonna be beautiful.

Krzysiu, where do you get all this info about construction dates??? A couple of meters from one stadium to the other?? Are you crazy?? There is a river and a few km in between...

you can add a 3rd tier later :D
55,000 -> ~ 75,000

Krzysiu, where do you get all this info about construction dates??? A couple of meters from one stadium to the other?? Are you crazy?? There is a river and a few km in between...What infos? And 'couple meters' I meant close :)

you can add a 3rd tier later :D
55,000 -> ~ 75,000
Well, not according to the architects :P
This would mean a complete refurbishment of the whole stadium construction. Possible, but not realistic.

maybe the new 3rd tier will need an own / seperate Foundation and of course new roof etc- But to me it looks like it is possible to add a 3rd tier

maybe the new 3rd tier will need an own / seperate Foundation and of course new roof etc- But to me it looks like it is possible to add a 3rd tier
Of course it's posiible. Following years will show if it's needed but I think 55k is going to be a bit too low and 60 would be great.

today photos:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3458/dsc7227ki9.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2510/dsc7233kq5.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7051/dsc7235nh6.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6676/dsc7252rw9.jpg
more: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26005218&postcount=2561

Any webcams?

Todays photos


http://images23.fotosik.pl/280/1ca2782933a8af5e.jpg

http://images26.fotosik.pl/281/6d2d5d221471f370.jpg

http://images24.fotosik.pl/281/f8d8408d53ad30ff.jpg

more: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26097598&postcount=2671

today inside photos:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9696/dsc00015wm3.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2198/dsc00014ap5.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1515/dsc00013sw0.jpg
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http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/512/dsc00006vb7.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6172/dsc00005db6.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26101238&postcount=2678
:cheers:

Very bad news!

Mafia I mean UEFA want to move Euro2012 from Poland to another place.Not because of bad situation with stadiums, they want to do it because the sport judgement (part of Polish Olympic Committee) suspended all Polish Football Federation members because of irregularities in Polish Federation.

It's not like that, Poland just won't play next 2 matches, that means no WC 2010 for Poland, Euro 2012 is safe imo...But still, this situatin in PZPN and whole this s..t is sick!

today photos (04.10.2008)
http://images32.fotosik.pl/374/05fd0ee7a4dca163.jpg
http://images41.fotosik.pl/17/ffd68466859f25e1.jpg
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http://images43.fotosik.pl/16/5d1fdfc0b2e6d6ea.jpg
http://images38.fotosik.pl/17/9cfe1242205cd72d.jpg
sorce/more: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26150512&postcount=2757
:cheers:

Today's photos from stadium. On the photos are drilling rigs (drilling machines).

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3969/sscimg9373va4.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6468/panorsscqj6.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5544/pano1sscuo6.jpg

source/more: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26182872&postcount=2775

Po co przeklejać dzień w dzień fotki z polskiego wątku? :nuts:

9th day
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2338/dsc7615fv3.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9262/dsc7619wa8.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1421/dsc7621cb8.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/259/dsc7624hp8.jpg
more:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26277068&postcount=2829

great :cheers:

Po co przeklejać dzień w dzień fotki z polskiego wątku? :nuts:

W końcu to forum międzynarodowe i jest skierowane do społeczności międzynarodowej.

English please

Po co przeklejać dzień w dzień fotki z polskiego wątku? :nuts:
Po co zadawać głupie pytania?
EOT

Don't write in Polish! :D

I like this stadium more and more. It's like a fine work of basketweaving - very appropriate culturally.

www.sercan.de in this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=651017
"WARSAW - Stadion Narodowy (55,000) - EURO 2012" url is bad, it is leading to the topic about " GDANSK - Arena Bałtycka (44,000)". I ask for the betterment. ;)

2nd day
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1250/panprama1hz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
9th day
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8761/panoramapf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26293174&postcount=2844

wow they're doing their job quite fast

fantastic design and visible progress. Demolition of the grandstand is going very nicely. Now just wait for the first foundations and cranes. I can not wait that real construction. So somewhere in mid-2009

This is the real construction tho, it's just first part of the construction, jeeeez...

Maybe I wrote poorly. It was me about building a more advanced. I was thinking of something like this:

http://stadiony.net/buildings/rsa/green_point_stadium/green_point_stadium151.jpg

Today photos :cheers:

12th day
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5552/panor101008xz8jr4.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1277/panor101008xz8.jpg)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6332/dsc7659aq8.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2194/dsc7664dx2.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/151/dsc7665kt5.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9201/dsc7667js6.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8784/dsc7658vv8.jpg

source/more: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26420738&postcount=2887

http://miasta.gazeta.pl/warszawa/1,34862,5797395,Stadion_Dziesieciolecia_juz_zupelnie_goly.html

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/5797/z5797288X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/5797/z5797290X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/5797/z5797289X.jpg

When are they going to do something with the area around the stadium??

When are they going to do something with the area around the stadium??Till 2012, that's for sure...And that's how it's gonna look like...

http://www.architektura.info/index.php/artykuly/architektura_w_polsce/zagospodarowanie_przestrzenne_terenu_wokol_stadionu_narodowego_w_warszawie

Till 2012 only the 5* hotel, conference centre, train and metro station and Arena will be finished...The rest is supposed to be complete by 2015.

Any webcams??

^^
No, now not. Maybe later...

Till 2012 only the 5* hotel, conference centre, train and metro station and Arena will be finished...The rest is supposed to be complete by 2015.
No metro station until 2014. :ohno:

16th day
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4585/dsc7688nd0.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7712/dsc7687ta9.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2733/dsc7685xc8.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5611/dsc7683sf1.jpg
more/source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26577606&postcount=2930

pretty similar to the birdnest in beijing just with straight lines and from the top it looks like the allianz arena lol.
nah its pretty kool though.

16.X.2008

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26678834&postcount=3002

25th Day:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/38/dsc7697fm2.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4838/dsc7698eh7.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6779/dsc7701so0.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7870/dsc7709sm6.jpg
more/source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26861596&postcount=3113

22.X.2008:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8080/dsc01399dq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/dsc01399dq8.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img161/dsc01399dq8.jpg/1/)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4938/dsc01425bb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/dsc01425bb3.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img233/dsc01425bb3.jpg/1/)

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3478/dsc01403jl8.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6334/dsc01422nc4.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1530/dsc01432sd9.jpg

Today photos :banana: 27th day

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4133/p1yz7.jpg (http://lorenc.home.pl/stadion/p1.jpg)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9794/867174321qw9.jpg (http://lorenc.home.pl/stadion/p2.jpg)
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2310/821517150xg1.jpg (http://lorenc.home.pl/stadion/p3.jpg)

http://lorenc.home.pl/stadion/16.jpghttp://lorenc.home.pl/stadion/7.jpg
http://lorenc.home.pl/stadion/9.jpg
http://lorenc.home.pl/stadion/22.jpg

author: Sławek
more/source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27119606&postcount=3220

Great's photos from 24.10.08. Source: here (http://fotoguma.blox.pl/2008/10/Stadion-X-cio-lecia-PRL.html).

http://fotoguma.blox.pl/resource/JG081024_048.JPG

http://fotoguma.blox.pl/resource/JG081024_068.JPG

http://fotoguma.blox.pl/resource/JG081024_052.JPG|

http://fotoguma.blox.pl/resource/JG081024_060.JPG

http://fotoguma.blox.pl/resource/JG081024_059.JPG

today photos (35th day of consctruction)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7374/dsc7734uw1.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5169/dsc7739jk4.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7476/dsc7742sk5.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9094/dsc7746lj8.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3860/dsc7748ea6.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9130/dsc7751qe6.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27360880&postcount=3373

What has happened to the market that was there?:?

Died! :cheers:

Nooooooooooooo.....
Those bastards:bash:

Is it possible to build undergroun parking under the pitch?

Russophobes :ohno:

Is it possible to build undergroun parking under the pitch?

There will be underground parking under the pitch :)

Cool stadium

What has happened to the market that was there?:?

Market is still active, but next to stadium:

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8940/123ob5.jpg

But now this market, it's nothing special. Only asians and blacks with panties, socks and other chinese clothes.

The old market in stadium was the best. You can bought russian military equipment (AK-47, ammunitions :D ), games and movies before official release (often with russian homemade dubbing; all was only for 5 €), and other extra stuff :D

webcam! :cheers:
here http://www.2012.org.pl/cities/warsaw/camcorder?r,main,afterRedirect=true

ehh, next troll...

soon 4 Internet cams should appear still, from what two will be within construction of the stadium (on the crown) :cheers:
1st day & 35th day
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3297/newpr5.gif

not to you it was, some guest he glued removing from the cam in, he wrote his name on them as the webcam and in the next fast he thanked himself :lol:

I know, Sercan told me it wasn't to me:D

BTW I don't know what's going on, but this webcam doesn't work:ohno:

Final rendering (video):

http://sport.onet.pl/74318,1248685,4139320,1,relacje.html

Construction, 6.11.2008:

najnowsze zdjęcia:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2531/20081163ud7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/20081163ud7.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img217/20081163ud7.jpg/1/)

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7230/20081168ez4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/20081168ez4.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img217/20081168ez4.jpg/1/)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7648/20081169rg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/20081169rg9.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img239/20081169rg9.jpg/1/)

New view from web-camera.

http://kamera.2012.org.pl/00501B0171E9.jpg?random=0.9246516781704892

adress: http://www.2012.org.pl/cities/warsaw/camcorder

today photos:
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7661/panoramkasnsmallmb2.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9492/panoramkasnvl2.jpg)
(click to resize)

more here: http://picasaweb.google.com/Pablo525i/Stadion#

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27762870&postcount=3575

^^
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7049/panoramnl1.jpg

Todays photos by SiteMan:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Pablo525i/Stadion14112008#

I wish we had stadiums this cool here in the UAE.

18.11.2008:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28195698&postcount=3699

one nice photo :)

http://fotoguma.blox.pl/resource/JG081024_331.JPG

Wow riverside stadium!

I love the location near the river and s'pers in the background.

(22.11.2008)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2773/panofg3.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/4474/panoramsejix9.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8826/panorama1zi3.jpg
more:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28394352&postcount=3791
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28394012&postcount=3790
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28389218&postcount=3778
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28392484&postcount=3782
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28400958&postcount=3823
:cheers:

Amazing!

once and now
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2205/export15ps8.gif

never mind..

^^ haha

Construction works...

mam ponad 7000 fotek z kamerki od 14.11 wiec zmontowalem cos :P
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chcialem wstawic w lepszej rozdzielczosci ale nie wyszlo :ohno:

Fantastic, it's always the same!

http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00144/FR_20081210_009__jp_144808a.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/6046/z6046935X.jpg
http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00144/FR_20081210_005__jp_144805a.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/6047/z6047318X.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/6047/z6047317X.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6046/z6046932X.jpg
final project

Really this new stadium will have a very good location!

I'm afraid distance between pitch and stands will be around 15 meters if this picture is beliveable.
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/6046/z6046935X.jpg

^^^
Typical GMP stadium
oval instead of paralel to the pitch

I'm afraid distance between pitch and stands will be around 15 meters if this picture is beliveable.
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/6046/z6046935X.jpg

thats weird. the additional space is there for the rugby field which is larger. they dont play rugby in poland? do they?

thats weird. the additional space is there for the rugby field which is larger. they dont play rugby in poland? do they?
National stadium for polish national rugby team will have capacity of around 5-10k :lol: and will be built in Gdynia probably.

i hope it will be completed by 2012...:)
that will be beautiful stadium, reminds me on stadium in frankfurt
:cheers:

It will be completed in 2011.

As for the distance from the pitch it won't be that far as sponsor wrote.

12.12.2008
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7719/panovq8.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9240/pano1de6.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7151/pano2qd6.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ImhiaBPTFDE/SUIs8SqhjlI/AAAAAAAAB30/HDbnxUFcuYM/s912/DSC06755.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ImhiaBPTFDE/SUItBH14fjI/AAAAAAAAB5I/wY8S24BwqSI/s912/DSC06765.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ImhiaBPTFDE/SUItQmb0LfI/AAAAAAAAB8s/w4txHRGOvQ0/s912/DSC06795.JPG
more: http://picasaweb.google.com/Pablo525i/12122008#

i hope it will be completed by 2012...:)
that will be beautiful stadium, reminds me on stadium in frankfurt
:cheers:
Cool it, the stadium will be built in time. It will be a wonderful stadium, in the excellent place. Architects took care so that the stadium didn't repeat errors from other stadiums with the similar roof. :cheers:

Pol-Aqua is doing great job, they suppose to finish 1 phase of the construction in april (1 month before deadline), and right after that without losing time, also in april, 2nd phase of the construction is gonna begin. Tender for the constructor of the 2nd phase is in the progress atm. We suppose to know the winner in january/february.

thats weird. the additional space is there for the rugby field which is larger. they dont play rugby in poland? do they?

The stadium can be used to play rugby.... This was possible, just by luck and geometry.

the national stadium can be used by the rugby team, but i dont expect it to ever exceed 5 000.

The rugby federation in poland even got informed about this by the architects.

final cap: 55920
Many new, accurate visualisations will turn up after opening offers at the tender, that is in March 2009

The stadium will be able to have games of rugby staying.

At construction of the stadium a BubbleDeck method will be used.

yesterday photos:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Pablo525i/NoweKamerkiStadion#

today photo:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1135/stadionkamerkaud1.jpg

Are they going to keep all those trees there?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29668448&postcount=4506

Are they going to keep all those trees there?

most of them, or part of them will be moved... just look at the renders.

guys i can not find the pics with the proposed red allianz seats :(

Unfortunately there are also only grey seats in the NCS registered office, probably to red we will wait all the way to the time of their assembly at the stadium. Only red seats were shown for VIP. There is an exhibition of elements who will be installed at the stadium in the NCS registered office (railing, seats, wood, granite, part of the elevation). New visualisations will be made available in the immediate future, probably as soon as protests are investigated in the tender for the general contractor as well as consortiums submit an offer (February-March) ;)
VIP seats:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9646/pc200291uq3.jpg
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17.01.2009 (photos from trip to the construction place):
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/432/img49229duzevk6ar1.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/199/img49229duzevk6.jpg)
(click to full size)
more: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30898252&postcount=4783
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30877452&postcount=4768
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30880886&postcount=4771
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30882446&postcount=4773

I hope they won't use the grey one

Ok the original Allianz has got grey
But Zahreb Arena, Mardan stadi or Astana stadium have also the grey

^^
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/6046/z6046935X.jpg
colour arranging seats

Winter evening picture. 1st stage of stadium construction is about to be finished. At the moment we are waiting for the contractor of the 2nd (last one & actual stadium construction) to be chosen. Soon we will see stadium raising :cheers:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8374/warszawaaktualny1024hz5.jpg

Greetings from Warsaw!

http://www.zbinek.olecko.info/stadion/stadion1.jpg


Ground works complete now its only up up up :cheers::cheers::cheers:

^^
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/6046/z6046935X.jpg
colour arranging seats

so it's basically the same than in the Bird's Nest

~1 252 000 000 PLN (~282mln €)
general contractor: Alpine Bau / Hydrobudowa / PBG

the best offer in the tender

~1 252 000 000 PLN (~282mln €)
general contractor: Alpine Bau / Hydrobudowa / PBG

the best offer in the tender

That price is just about right.

all offers:

1. niemiecko-austriacko-polskie konsorcjum firm - ALPINE BAU DEUTSCHLAND AG, ALPINE BAU GmbH, ALPINE Construction Polska sp. z o.o., Hydrobudowa Polska SA i PBG SA
1 252 755 008,64 PLN netto
2. polsko greckie konsorcjum firm - Przedsiębiorstwo Robót Inżynieryjnych POL-AQUA S.A., J&P AVAX i Mostostal Warszawa S.A.
1 290 000 000 PLN netto
3. irlandzko –polskie konsorcjum – John Sisk&Son Ltd. i Henpol Sp. z o.o. 1 447 500 000 PLN netto
4. niemiecko polskie konsorcjum firm - Eiffage Budownictwo MITEX SA, Strabag Sp. z o.o. i Bauglsellschaft Walter Hellmich GmbH
1 459 200 000 PLN netto
5. konsorcjum portugalskich firm i ich polskich spółek – MSF Moniz da Maia, Serra & Fortunato Empreiteiros S.A., MSF-Polska Sp. z o.o., Sociedade de Construcao Soares da Costa S.A., FDO Construcoes, Alexandre Barbosa Borges S.A., ABB-FDO Polska Sp. z o.o., MARTIFER
2 225 000 084 PLN netto
6. niemiecko-polskie konsorcjum firm - MAX BOEGL Polska Sp. z o.o., MAX BOEGL BUUNTERNEHMUNG GmbH&Co.KG i BUDIMEX DROMEX S.A.
1 452 000 000 PLN netto
1 252 755 008,64 PLN - 282 152 028,97€ (1€~4,44PLN)

all offers:

1 252 755 008,64 PLN - 282 152 028,97€ (1€~4,44PLN)

EUR/PLN has fallen today afternoon to 1EUR=4,33PLN,
so the stadium is more expensive ;-)

1 252 755 008,64 PLN ~ 290 mln EUR

290 mln EUR

:nuts: what is euro ? why not give the price in australian dollar or korean won :lol:
it's international forum so we use here D O L L A R S not some regional currencies ( however if you use € in european section everything's fine).

the stadiums will cost 381.7 millions $

That is the net price, full price is 1,528 mld PLN ~ 351 mln EUR ~ 464 mln US$
I was expecting much less of a price with the crisis and so on. More close to 250mln Eur or 1mld PLN not 1.5

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9960/frluftbildso251774g.jpg
^^mniam mniam

:nuts: what is euro ? why not give the price in australian dollar or korean won :lol:
it's international forum so we use here D O L L A R S not some regional currencies ( however if you use € in european section everything's fine).

the stadiums will cost 381.7 millions $ There is no international currency. The USD is the most widely used reserve and trading currency in the world, however its not a standard. The EUR is the major currency of the European continent (where this stadium will be built), so I see no problem in reffering to it.

That is the net price, full price is 1,528 mld PLN ~ 351 mln EUR ~ 464 mln US$
I was expecting much less of a price with the crisis and so on. More close to 250mln Eur or 1mld PLN not 1.5

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9960/frluftbildso251774g.jpg
^^mniam mniam
this is very old visualisation from 2007
the newest visualisation:
http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00144/FR_20081210_009__jp_144808a.jpg

As for the price - the value added tax is coming back to country, so a net price is a cost it is necessary to give which for building the stadium.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI6YRyFz5C0 (click here, wide + HQ ;) )

If there are no protests in 10 days, it will be possible to sign an agreement with the general contractor and the structure will start up. (26 may?)

// sorry, corrected

^^ What do you mean by "in 10 days"? After or until this period of time? ;)

^^ What do you mean by "in 10 days"? After or until this period of time? ;)

the other companies in the tender have 10 days to protest the outcome, if after this period there are no protests then the contract must be signed with the winner.

It's going to be very nice :-)

and this, and this !
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Nice view ;)

the other companies in the tender have 10 days to protest the outcome, if after this period there are no protests then the contract must be signed with the winner.

There was no protest - the construction will start very soon :cheers:

There was no protest - the construction will start very soon :cheers:

The final contract with polish-austrian consortium Hydrobudowa Polska SA, PBG, Alpine Bau Deutschland AG, Alpine Bau GmbH i Alpine Construction Polska will be signed today at 2 PM :cheers:
They will have 24 months to finish the stadium.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/292/anaerialviewoft194655g.jpg

Is there any webcam yet?

Actually, there was one, but not operational;] Don't know how it is now, but I haven't seen any. Surely not on the main website.

I'd really like to see how are the going to build that footbridge:) Nevertheless that would be nice

24 months? That will be a close call. But Polish workers will work 24 hours a day I presume?

Warsaw National Stadium

http://www.pzpn.pl/a/stadion_narodowy1.jpg

http://www.pzpn.pl/a/stadion_narodowy2.jpg

http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00051/Projekt_koncepcyjny__51476g.jpg

http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00051/Projekt_koncepcyjny__51477g.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/1/5132/m5132101.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/5132/m5132096.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4905/z4905102X.jpg

is it a retractable roof structure?

Yes, it is.Similar to the roof over Commerzbank Arena in Frankfurt.

DocentX don't paste here this very old visualisations..

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7392/cessna02copy.jpg

Wow location is fantastic! We have to nickname it Riverside national stadium??? LOL

this stadium is beautiful! so the roof can be retracted? How?

^^
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5766/snmakieta.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3267/pc200309ug4.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3936/pc200308az8.jpg

visualisations pasted by DocentX are very very old and out of date

quite an impressive section:


section: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1849/snprzekrj.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snprzekrj.jpg)

plan: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5894/rzutk.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rzutk.jpg)

Warsaw's national stadium 3D:

Link to Download (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=6dd66bafbf924fd520d6e10c82e3db00&prevstart=0)

yeeah, but u should mention that this model is based on my model :/ someone without my permission used it and changed a little bit. It's not nice when somebody steals somebodys' work and time I've spend to create that model...:nono: u can compare - the link is below at my signature.

yeeah, but u should mention that this model is based on my model :/ someone without my permission used it and changed a little bit. It's not nice when somebody steals somebodys' work and time I've spend to create that model...:nono: u can compare - the link is below at my signature.

wish people would stop using textures.

Any updates or photos?

Warsaw's national stadium 3D:

Link to Download (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=6dd66bafbf924fd520d6e10c82e3db00&prevstart=0)

Some average renders.

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/11/31/4048593_500x500.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/11/31/4048596_500x500.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/11/31/4048600_500x500.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/11/32/4048603_500x500.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/11/52/4048743_500x500.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/11/55/4048766_500x500.jpg

^^
Elevation was copied well but the rest unfortunately much differs from the project.
Any updates or photos?
webcam: http://www.2012.org.pl/images/warszawa_aktualny_1024.jpg

In July advanced construction will begin (at the moment last works at hacking piles off and heads that is laborious and "dull" work; after the appearance of the first cranes (will be 14 cranes) Alpine will start the productivity with the full structure), in July an additional party of the stadium on which photo reports will be also appear.

Tried some night renders.

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/03/30/4050618_500x500.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/03/30/4050623_500x500.jpghttp://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/19/03/30/4050626_500x500.jpg

This is awesome! What do u use to render it in that way?