Things you hate or love about your country/the city where you live!

[mitsurughi]

So, me first.
Romania,generally Bucharest.

HATE:
-street ads (everywhere)
-cars everywhere, parked on sidewalks because of the big lack of real parking spaces.
-very small amount of pedestrian zones
-cables hanged on every god damn lighting pole there is
-degraded and "kitsch-y" urban furniture (examples: very bright yellow benches, blue/green/yellow trash bins made out of plastic, really ugly trafic stopping poles made out of plastic)
-mentality of people
-the stupid gypsies
-too many great and outstanding buildings that are left in a state of depravation, no real plan for their revitalization.
-the infrastructure works being done in such a way, that when their finished, the final result leaves you feeling sick.
-the 500 or so senators of the Romanian parliament. (IMO, TOO MANY! 95% of them are stupid scammers anyway, so why the big number?)
-the old commie building residents that extended their homes into the balcony to gain some space
-people that hang their laundry out on the balconies to dry (leaving underwear, pijamas etc. for everyone to see)
-the pavement used on some streets (streets out of which some are in the city center, for God's sake)
-the educational system (really too much bullshit in it, teachers don't know how to teach, you learn too much stuff mechanically, very small ammount of projects, very small ammount of live examples and experiments, everything you learn is generally learned by binding it into your memory forcedly.)
-about schools :The furniture inside classroms lacks (not talking about benches and seats). In my oppinion a classroom should be very welcoming, with lots of stuff in it, to spare the words, I'm gonna show you two examples.
Most of romanian school classrooms look like this: http://www.liceulcavnic.home.ro/imagini/Galerie%20Photo/clasa.jpg
While most of the classrooms from more civilised countries look like this:
http://www.frenchcentre.ubc.ca/images/ubc/jen-students.jpg
See the difference?

Love:
-the potential that the city and country have


to be continued with more things that I love. I love as many as I hate, but I have to run so I'll post it now and edit it later.

[nebunul]

You’re one pissed off citizen, no doubt :lol::lol::lol: :cheers:

[Cosmin]

I'll soon join him, don't worry.:bash: Just don't have time or patience to write all the negative stuff.:lol: But when I will have... oh boy!:lol:

[radi6404]

[quote]-the old commie building residents that extended their homes into the balcony to gain some space[/qutoe]

Ohhhhhh, I hate such dumb people so much, too, they are really stupid, I can´t say in words how stupid they are.

[nebunul]

Inequality pisses me off big time … In fact, when I was living in Romania, this is what I used to actually kinda' like (get used to) – the fact that if you knew someone, you’d had the money, the connections, the right telephone number … every thing was (still is) possible :bash:

[Europa.]

basically i hate the nationalism in my country.. nationalism towards other countries that is :D and i hate the political corruption..

[Pavlo]

Hate

-Extreme corruption
-Political Instability
-Low social development
-Old-Soviet mentality
-Lack of funds for infrastructure projects
-Inflation
-Lack of natural resources ( oil, gas )
-Bad international relations
-Demographical situation

Love

-Historical preservation of cities like Lviv
-Fast developing economy
-Scenery
-Spending time with friends during the summer
-Pretty much everything else not listed in "hate"

[cezarsab]

man every where if you have connections and money you will do any think!!!
i know somebody that offerd my friend a oxford schooler ship if he will pay him 20.000$ our somethin around this:bash:

LOVE:
-the land
-the flowers
-the (tei) trees
-being romanian
-our great history+future
-Dacia:nuts:
-My GRANDMOM
-Clatite!
-boulevards
...etc

HATE:
-commie blocs
-balconies Extented
-we only think about money
-no motor ways+sky scrapers
-cables everywere
-our politiciens
-our universities
...etc i will try to think more...

[zzibit]

I suppose it would be more productive if all of you can offer practical suggestions to remedy the given negatives of your city :cheers:

[Corneliu]

man every where if you have connections and money you will do any think!!!
i know somebody that offerd my friend a oxford schooler ship if he will pay him 20.000$ our somethin around this:bash:

LOVE:
-the land
-the flowers
-the (tei) trees
-being romanian
-our great history+future
-Dacia:nuts:
-My GRANDMOM
-Clatite!
-boulevards
...etc

HATE:
-commie blocs
-balconies Extented
-we only think about money
-no motor ways+sky scrapers
-cables everywere
-our politiciens
-our universities
...etc i will try to think more...


no offense man but you have to sharpen up your English..:)
The correct way:
anything
offered
scholarship
everywhere

and I will stop here because otherwise I will send my bank account to you:)
p.s. that oxford cute story = BS

[DetroitBosnian]

Ill do Bosnia first
Hate:
two republics in one country
over nationalistic fervor
the slow pace of rebuilding in some areas, especially in some of Sarajevo's districts
the ugly commie blocks
new mosques, very tacky looking
Likes:
the great wilderness
the old beautiful buildings

and now....
USA
Hate:
the structure of the cities/ urban area with regards to poverty, whole areas are made into ghettos that the government ignores exist, or care about;
the huge deluge of knowledge of most people with regards to geography or modern world politics; the use of race as an excuse for so many problems that need to be addressed, illegal immigration/ poverty/ social order; the republican party, and its stance on many issues; the lack of a well funded education, or universal health care; the war.

Like
the large amount of different groups of people; the suburban houses (i may hate that its so spread out, but boy i love having my own house)
I'm sure there is more, i just cant think of it yet

[cezarsab]

no offense man but you have to sharpen up your English..:)
The correct way:
anything
offered
scholarship
everywhere

and I will stop here because otherwise I will send my bank account to you:)
p.s. that oxford cute story = BS

Believe it or not!!Thanks for the advise but I was really tired yesterday…I realized my mistakes today...Thanks any way:cheers:

[Bytson]

It is hard to add new statements on this thread as it grows, but il will give my contribution to it.

For Romania:
Hate
-the huge majority of people with potential but without an open mind
-the excessive bureaucracy and the high taxes
-ugly gypsies which now poses some f*****g capital ($) which act and think like they are above everyone in this country
-stupid regional mentality for every corner and place of Romania, available for the capital also. We all are citizens of this world ! :)
-the fact that this nation does not have an attitude or ambition like some Asian countries and their phylosophy to fulfill a common objective.
-hate and disgrace the fact that current city halls in Romania does not have or use a good urbanism plan. And because of this there are signs of chaos in the achitecture of the major cities.
-polution and other negative environment aspects
-the complicated way we have here for doing simple things
-the huge distance of development, life stile and mentality in proportion to Western Europe or U.S.A

Love
-the women :cheers:
-some of the tradional cuisine
-being somewhere "latin"
-traveling inside the country
-few optimist romanians

For the moment this is all. Actually, I am suprised how the things we hate always comes first :crazy: . Probably this should make us lift an eyebrow :lol: .

[bgrs]

What I hate in Bulgaria the most are those two hardcoded ways of thinking in most people here:

1) The most important thing is to live better even if this means that I should fuck someone up. I don't care about anyone but me.

2) What is private is private. What is public belongs to everyone thus I feel free to fuck it up cause it's mine too.

[cezarsab]

good theory man:nuts::bash:
respect!:):cheers:

[Делян]

I don't like the foreign temple in the middle of Sofia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cezarsab]

^^ pics?

[bgrs]

It's an old mosque. Delyan does not like muslims very much :) And many people here actually don't either...

[cezarsab]

mmm....every one has his opinion mosque gives a very beautiful architectic effect on the surrounding area....what ever the country or city was...

[Turnovec]

^^ I like the mosque in Sofia :) It's after all the only muslim temple in the capital. I ilke the fact that in a distance of 200-300 metres between each other right in the very center of Sofia there are a muslim Mosque , a Catholic Cathedral , a Jewesh Sinagogue and an Orthodoxal Church ... It's like you've got the major religions in the world living peacefully in Bulgaria.

The romanian church is very close to those 4 too :cheers:

[bgrs]

We miss a hinduist temple...but I don't think the concrete jungle will be a good environment for it :) Perhaps in Boyana or somewhere else in Vitosha mountain? :)

[cezarsab]

cool, in Aleppo(a Muslim city) there is a mosque surrounded by 3 churches...its cool and very beautiful,the diversity is very good

[mode55]

man every where if you have connections and money you will do any think!!!
i know somebody that offerd my friend a oxford schooler ship if he will pay him 20.000$ our somethin around this:bash:

LOVE:
-the land
-the flowers
-the (tei) trees
-being romanian
-our great history+future
-Dacia:nuts:
-My GRANDMOM
-Clatite!
-boulevards
...etc

HATE:
-commie blocs
-balconies Extented
-we only think about money
-no motor ways+sky scrapers
-cables everywere
-our politiciens
-our universities
...etc i will try to think more...

About the money it's a capitalist thing.It's the same everywhere.I don't like it either.

[Cracovia]

For me
I will do Poland
Loves

The Baltic coast
Raves in Krakow
Good quality cheap weed (5g 25 Euro/10g 40euro)
The Women
The tatra mountains/Zakopane
Our sad but proud and long history
Our beautifull cities and towns Wroclaw, Krakow, Gdansk ect
The economic prospects prospects
Euro 2012
Leo Beenhakker
White christmas/winter
The people
good standard of living (for me at least)
beautiful countryside

Hate
Lack of Infastructure
PKP
Our incompetent goverments (hopefully changing)
buerocracy
Police
Queues for ski lifts
Many unkind people
the many old age people who think just coz they lived through the war they are better than us and are spitefull.
Emigration
Rascists (really pisses me of/ Fuckin skinheads)
Lack of tactfullness and sutilty
The if you got it flaunt it attitude.

[bgrs]

Good quality cheap weed (5g 25 Euro/10g 40euro)

That's not cheap at all :)

[Cracovia]

its cheap compared to WE.... in the UK i paid £20 (30 euros) for 3.7 grams coz the basterds still work in ounces in Paris 5 grams 35 euro how much do you pay in bulgaria

[bgrs]

It's about two times cheper. At least it was before. Frankly said, I've got no idea what's the price now, but I doubt it went up significantly :) I stopped it a while ago so dunno.

[Ivailo]

I`m not going to list the things I like because everyone loves his motherland and I`ll just repeat what was said by the people before me.

So, what I dislike/hate about Bulgaria and Macedonia is:

Bulgaria
1)communists, socialists, social-democrats, panslavists etc
2)the lack of respect towards the institutions
3)the laziness and those what we call "Balkan mentality"
4)the nihilism among the young generations
5)the corruption which even reaches the highest levels of the government
6)better than MKD 6) due to the better integration of the minorities but still there are some serious problems which sometimes drive me crazy
7)the lack of desire for dialogue and open discussion with Macedonia about the historical controversies.

Macedonia
1)the same as BG 1) plus the jugo-nostalgia which is very wide-spread, especially among the older generations
2)similar to BG 2) but in Macedonia the situation is better in that aspect
3)the same as BG 3)
4)the same as BG 4)
5)similar to BG 5) but again Macedonia is at least a bit better
6)extremely big rights for the minorities, especially for the Albanians who are ******* ** the country and prevent it from faster development.This is definitely the thing I hate most.
7)the same as BG 7) but here I`ll add 3 names
-Dragan Latas(The people who accuse him for being serbophile are wrong.He isn`t and can`t be serbophile because actually he is ethnic Serb...)
-Alexander (Make)Donski(A person who doesn`t have even elemenary academic historical education but writes books about history...)
-Branko Crvenkovski(Ethnic Serb, born in Sarajevo, who somehow decided to become Macedonian and took the surname of his wife Jasmina Crvenkovska in order to legitimize his new Macedonian identity...Exactly the same person who ordered the Albanian flags to be removed from Western Macedonia and later officially allowed them to get support by the Albanians)

[bgrs]

oOoOOO...you have any MK origins?

[Ivailo]

Depends on what is your definition for MK origin.
If you understand under Macedonian a geographical concept, then, yes, I`ve Macedonian origin but if you refer to the Macedonians as a separate "non-Bulgarian" ethnic group, then I don`t have any Macedonian origin.

[bgrs]

OK, so you're the benevolent dictator and you decide :)

Don't get ignited now :) I can completely understand you being a Bulgarian :) On the other hand, there's something you should know which is tightly connected with about 1.3 million people you are refering to. And that one is the reality and why the reality is not what you expected to be is a matter of....errr...many factors.

Anyway, yours is not a very mature position...it's kind of super-nationalistic one. Do you really think that Macedonia is the biggest problem to us Bulgarians or what? Don't you think that some guys are trying to move the focus from some important internal issues to that overrated Macedonian (say it FYROM, geographical term or whatever) ones? It's not that Macedonia is not perhaps the most important foreign country for Bulgarians for a number of reasons including the most important one: we are very closely related with them, like no other country around. It's the fact that many people (including you) are just following some trend you don't quite much consider carefully.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. But I don't think our relations with Macedonia will get any better with all those things. I just prefer to leave those guys alone...for a good period of time. Future will show us who is right and who isn't, don't you think so?

[bgrs]

OK...to make it clearer, you know, thousands Bulgarians died there...I don't think they died just because they wanted this what we observe now, to be separated and constantly bitching about all kinds of stuff, historic, political, etc. They should have died for something more valuable than that. Just like all the Russians, Romanians, Serbs, Armenians and Greeks that died for our own liberation. These simple things should be respected and we should leave all those bullshits to stupid historians and politicians and their stupid disputes. We must not be anything like them after all..

[Ivailo]

It`s realism, not nationalism:)
Hearing that Goce Delchev, Dame Gruev, Jane Sandanski, Todor Alexandrov, Tsar Samuil, Petar-Delyan are Bulgarians definitely make some people feel offended but the same is in force for me when I listen how the Bulgarian language is dialect of ancient Macedonian...
The truth sometimes really hurts but the history can`t or at least shouldn`t be manipulated.

[bgrs]

^^ OTOH, if you just believe that Macedonians=Bulgarians...that shouldn't bother you, isn't it? So what's the problem? :)

Truth hurts...hm..IMO truth doesn't matter very much here. See what's going on and tell me how do you define that "truth"...everyone likes to speak about his truth. It's not at all a constructive thing I think.

[Ivailo]

I claim that the modern days Macedonians are Bulgarians because they recognise ethnic Bulgarians for their national heroes.If ethnic Bulgarians are their national heroes, consequently they themselves are Bulgarians too but after they deny their Bulgarian origin, then they don`t have the moral right to be descendants of those Macedonians for whom the term Macedonian was only geogrpahical concept.
For one reason or another Greece and Cyprus are seperate countires just like Romania and Moldova, Serbia and Republica Srpska, Bulgaria and Macedonia but I`ve never heard Cypriot, Moldovan or citizen of Republica Srpska to manipulate and falsify the history.
When Macedonia conducted a referendum for leaving Jugoslavia, Bulgaria was the first country that recognise it and when Mitsotakis and Misoshevich offered Zhelev division of todays Macedonia, he rejected the proposal, no matter that we would get 50% of the territory whereas Greece and Serbia would share the other 50%.Furthermore most of the countries that recognised Macedonia in the first months did it mainly due to their relations with Bulgaira.Russia was the first country with the status of world factor which recognised Macedonia and it happened during the visit of Boris Eltsin in Bulgaria due to insistence of Bulgaria.
The first question is why Bulgaria helped Macedonia and what was the Macedonian gratitude?The first answer is that we recognised them immediately because everyone in Bulgaria thought that they will join us as Eastern Rumelia did in 1885.The second answer.....:lol:
Concerning what is "The Truth" and how many truths are there, ofcourse there is only one truth.The one which is "The Truth" for all historians over the world except of the historians from two Balkan countries seeking world conspiration against them:)

[Dani_Albo]

:lol:i will do albania

love...

The beach
benz mercedes everywhere
the way girls dress -high heels + short skirt even if they are just taking out the garbage
albanian weddings...there are at least 3 drunk speaches!
Great + cheap food :cheers:
Everyone has a number of a hooker in their cell, although the quality is no good the price is:cheers:
meeting with various people in the administration and listening to what they have to say:lol:

hate...

Very ignorant population.
Pathetic, corrupt and outdated education system.
Incompetent leadership.
Politics in albania is slightly above Palestinan levels.
Very dusty, especially in tirana...construction almost everywhere.
Terrible infrastructure and the fact that it doesn't seem to bother people as much as you would think:nuts:
Leaving albania seems to be the preffered solution by the majority of the youth.
Corruption has not only infiltrated all form of government but has also managed to be part of day to day life regardless of what you do for a living.
Lack of well established escort services. :ohno: (this is the one that really hurt me the most)

[zzibit]

^^ ahahaha. good ones

[mic of Orion]

For me
I will do Poland
Loves

The Baltic coast
Raves in Krakow
Good quality cheap weed (5g 25 Euro/10g 40euro)
The Women
The tatra mountains/Zakopane
Our sad but proud and long history
Our beautifull cities and towns Wroclaw, Krakow, Gdansk ect
The economic prospects prospects
Euro 2012
Leo Beenhakker
White christmas/winter
The people
good standard of living (for me at least)
beautiful countryside

Hate
Lack of Infastructure
PKP
Our incompetent goverments (hopefully changing)
buerocracy
Police
Queues for ski lifts
Many unkind people
the many old age people who think just coz they lived through the war they are better than us and are spitefull.
Emigration
Rascists (really pisses me of/ Fuckin skinheads)
Lack of tactfullness and sutilty
The if you got it flaunt it attitude.


What I can't understand is how polish skinheads fatarse lazy dushbags can complain about anything, I mean Poland has no immigration to speak off, (who in there mind would want to live in Poland comes to mind) and these skinhead pricks and low life scumbags go around attacking hard working Poles, to make it worse they are all drug dealers, or involved in some form of organized crime.
I think you should kill them all, honestly, they are all Nazi pigs, in WW2 they'd be ones supporting Nazi Germany, considering Polish past, I'd really think eliminating every single skinhead would be right things to do, If I was a Pole.
I mean in one move you;d eliminate undesirable elements of your society, reduce crime rate, tax burden (most skinheads are unemployed and cost and are burden for honest tax payers) and improve average IQ rate.

Most decent and educated Poles are leaving Poland bc you have idiots in charge, i hope you ppl elect someone decent next time. :cheers:
:cheers:

[wyqtor]

Republica Srpska, Bulgaria and Macedonia but I`ve never heard Cypriot, Moldovan or citizen of Republica Srpska to manipulate and falsify the history.

The official language of Moldova is called Moldovan in their Constitution. :nuts:

[RawLee]

I think you should kill them all, honestly, they are all Nazi pigs, in WW2 they'd be ones supporting Nazi Germany, considering Polish past, I'd really think eliminating every single skinhead would be right things to do, If I was a Pole.
I mean in one move you;d eliminate undesirable elements of your society, reduce crime rate, tax burden (most skinheads are unemployed and cost and are burden for honest tax payers) and improve average IQ rate.


You are a strange person...once you threatened me to report me because of gypsy jokes,but on the other hand,you say worse things. Whats the difference between me saying a gypsy joke and your "die all Nazi skinheads"?

[mic of Orion]

You are a strange person...once you threatened me to report me because of gypsy jokes,but on the other hand,you say worse things. Whats the difference between me saying a gypsy joke and your "die all Nazi skinheads"?

Raw if you don't see the difference you are really sick person.
Skinheads support Nazi ideology, and Nazi ideology is what any sensible, intelligent person should hate.

BTW, Nazis killed 12 million ppl in concentration camps, 6 million Jews, 2 million Roma, and 4 million others, Nazi ideology is something I hate deep down of my being, I can't stand them.

As to your jokes, they were racist, ignorant and for that you were given a warning.

Put it this way, would you say such jokes to a gypsy, not if you value your life. And you should think along these lines. BTW you do have racist views, I've read few of you comments before, do not like you at all.

[RawLee]

Skinheads support Nazi ideology, and Nazi ideology is what any sensible, intelligent person should hate.

BTW, Nazis killed 12 million ppl in concentration camps, 6 million Jews, 2 million Roma, and 4 million others, Nazi ideology is something I hate deep down of my being, I can't stand them.

You just suggested killing people...you are the same. You have ideological basis,just as they did (jews destroy the 3rd reich through economy...)...

As to your jokes, they were racist, ignorant and for that you were given a warning.

Lets see...why is it more racist saying "all gypsies steal" than saying "all muslims are terrorists"? Maybe because it depends on the POV? You spend too much time in a fairy tale. Come to EE, and see for yourself,our POV is not racist. Its a fact.

Put it this way, would you say such jokes to a gypsy, not if you value your life. And you should think along these lines. BTW you do have racist views, I've read few of you comments before, do not like you at all.

But I have never suggested killing people;) You did. This is why you cant despise me morally, but I can you.

[mic of Orion]

You just suggested killing people...you are the same. You have ideological basis,just as they did (jews destroy the 3rd reich through economy...)...



Lets see...why is it more racist saying "all gypsies steal" than saying "all muslims are terrorists"? Maybe because it depends on the POV? You spend too much time in a fairy tale. Come to EE, and see for yourself,our POV is not racist. Its a fact.



But I have never suggested killing people;) You did. This is why you cant despise me morally, but I can you.

Of course I can, I can despise you bc I know what kind of ignorant person you are. POV, wtf is a POV?

"all gypsies steal" than saying "all muslims are terrorists"? - you said either of these in UK, you'd end up in prison and after that deported, suffice to say you'd never be able to travel to Australia, US and Canada or New Zealand, You see All UK's colonies and US prohibit convicted person an entry.

And you educate gypsies you'd eliminate most problems, but you Hungarians just hate them, no wonder they hate you back and steal.

And no, not all Muslims are terrorist, very small, tiny minority of radicals are.

(jews destroy the 3rd reich through economy...)... - WTF ???
I am a Jew and I do not remember me destroying Germany or Austria, I remember Yanks, Brits, Canadians, Russians and allies did.

[RawLee]

Of course I can, I can despise you bc I know what kind of ignorant person you are. POV, wtf is a POV?

Point of view.

"all gypsies steal" than saying "all muslims are terrorists"? - you said either of these in UK, you'd end up in prison and after that deported, suffice to say you'd never be able to travel to Australia, US and Canada or New Zealand, You see All UK's colonies and US prohibit convicted person an entry.

Wow. Staying alone in major parts of town would mean being beaten up by gypsies. No kidding.

And you educate gypsies you'd eliminate most problems, but you Hungarians just hate them, no wonder they hate you back and steal.

Ignorant. You are one too. We send parents to prison if they dont force their children to attend school. Then build houses free for them. Most hungarians working an entire life,and still have less then what they are given for free. who do you think you are to tell us what to do? Or what we are?
Gypsies steal..lets see where...recently Spain and France. Then there is Slovakia,CZ,Romania,Ukraine,Bulgaria,Poland,etc,etc. Its not us. Its them. In this case, its not racism. Its the lesson life taught these EE nations. Take them,if you wish. Still,I dont wish them death. You do. So stop the nonsense of "I hate nazis so I have the right to cast death upon them".
And no, not all Muslims are terrorist, very small, tiny minority of radicals are.

Good. Neither believe I.

(jews destroy the 3rd reich through economy...)... - WTF ???
I am a Jew and I do not remember me destroying Germany or Austria, I remember Yanks, Brits, Canadians, Russians and allies did.

Why was the quota system,later the ghetto-thing introduced? Because of that (totally fictitious) reason,because jews were the holders of not "industrial wealth" but "bank wealth",which was deemed "not ayran".
BTW,I do not agree with such views,whatever your impression is, and I'm not a racist. You are full of hatred.
And again,you wished death upon other people,I never did,and never will. This makes all your points invalid regarding me and "racism".;)

[wyqtor]

Of course I can, I can despise you bc I know what kind of ignorant person you are. POV, wtf is a POV?

Point Of View.


"all gypsies steal" than saying "all muslims are terrorists"? - you said either of these in UK, you'd end up in prison and after that deported, suffice to say you'd never be able to travel to Australia, US and Canada or New Zealand, You see All UK's colonies and US prohibit convicted person an entry.

That just proves that the countries mentioned above are undemocratic and supress freedom of speech. They are SO politically correct, it sickens me. They promote immigration and the building of mosques, even after more than one terrorist attack perpetrated by people that shout "Allahu Akbar" when they blow themselves up. Now that is stupid, creating safe havens for the enemy on your own territory. Not that I have anything against REAL moderates, but the priority should be protecting ourselves from potential danger, I'm sure they can understand that.


And you educate gypsies you'd eliminate most problems, but you Hungarians just hate them, no wonder they hate you back and steal.

I hate them too, as do almost all educated Romanians. They tarnish our country's image with their behavior. They are lazy, they don't go to school and educate themselves, they steal instead of working. Though I really don't think they should be killed or anything, just forced to change their primitive culture and manners that don't suit the 21st century.


And no, not all Muslims are terrorist, very small, tiny minority of radicals are.

Maybe, but why haven't I seen any mass-protests by moderate Muslims denouncing Al-Qaida, Bin Laden and their ilk? Why does no one react to this corruption of Islam's allegedly "peaceful" message by terrorists?

[Cosmin]

Fantastic discussions here.:lol: Death to every single human being (except me and a bunch of hand picked hot girls)! There it is, I've said it and feel better now that I've unleashed my dark part! Puny mortals!:D Now back on topic...

As perverted as it sounds... I'll do Romania.:nuts:

I LOVE
-the landscape of the country
-the language (though I'd prefer English to be my first language to be honest)
-the girls
-the flag & the national anthem
-Peleş castle
-some ski resorts and the mountains around them
-Cişmigiu park in Bucharest
-observing the city waking up at 6 in the morning
-Danube delta
-that we are finally in NATO & EU
-the potential of this country

I HATE
-stupid and/or ignorant people (a very good part of the population if you ask me)
-the villages (it's like stepping back in time)
-dirty cities, dirty streets, dirty people
-beggars on the street, and in the public transport
-politicians
-pollution
-racism and retarded mentalities
-that many people think they're so much better than others just because they're Romanians
-commie apartment blocks in Bucharest and other cities
-that we don't have a real river flowing through Bucharest
-the inefficient education system
-corruption at all levels
-unexploited potential of this country
-our general hate towards Hungarians (but not only)
-the idiots that steal and kill in other countries, making us look like a bunch of savages
-poor infrastructure
-that Romania's flag carrier has stopped flying to New York, Toronto and Beijing
-people that constantly complain about... ANYTHING
-that too many people believe there's a God and are somewhat fanatic over it
... and many more things.:bash:

[wyqtor]

Fantastic discussions here.:lol:

Gotta love the Eastern Europe/Balkans subforum, eh Cosmin :D ? The best part of Skyscrapercity, with the liveliest, most intelligent debates! :D

I just hope that it won't be seriously moderated anytime soon, it would be SO much more boring that way!

Anyway, I definitely agree with most pro's and con's you posted about Romania. One more pro: the anthem is one of the better ones you can find in the world!

[Cracovia]

What I can't understand is how polish skinheads fatarse lazy dushbags can complain about anything, I mean Poland has no immigration to speak off, (who in there mind would want to live in Poland comes to mind) and these skinhead pricks and low life scumbags go around attacking hard working Poles, to make it worse they are all drug dealers, or involved in some form of organized crime.
I think you should kill them all, honestly, they are all Nazi pigs, in WW2 they'd be ones supporting Nazi Germany, considering Polish past, I'd really think eliminating every single skinhead would be right things to do, If I was a Pole.
I mean in one move you;d eliminate undesirable elements of your society, reduce crime rate, tax burden (most skinheads are unemployed and cost and are burden for honest tax payers) and improve average IQ rate.

Most decent and educated Poles are leaving Poland bc you have idiots in charge, i hope you ppl elect someone decent next time. :cheers:
:cheers:

Erm in relation to that fact above we do have some immigration although most are Ukrainians, Russians and Moldovans. Oh and Poland is a beautifull prospering nation, i dont see why people would not want to live there.
look we got our first BLack bus driver in Warsaw
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/4730/z4730306Z.jpg

And Just to let you know most decent educated Poles actually stay in Poland because you can make a good living for yourself and its better to be part of an economy on the UP and close to your family. ALot has changed since 2004
Oh we had our elections in October btw and we elected alot more competent government than in 2005 thats for sure.

BTW Poland is a liberal democracy and we dont supress freedom of expression, so people can be bald as long as they dont discriminate. The death penalty is also abolished so killing Skinheads is out of the question. Though making them go to Saudi Arabia would seem a lovely punishment

[Cosmin]

One more pro: the anthem is one of the better ones you can find in the world!
Right! Forgot this one! I've updated my post.:D

[Corneliu]

Right! Forgot this one! I've updated my post.:D

Oh' comm'on...the best anthem is La Marseillaise...

Romanian anthem is too said and sounds like we are all a bunch of sleeping loosers:lol:

[nebunul]

-our general hate towards Hungarians (but not only)
-that too many people believe there's a God and are somewhat fanatic over it ... and many more things.:bash:

I think this is a common/general thing throughout the region(s) were empires once existed: we hate Hungarians as much as they hate us .. NOT MUCH if you ask me :cheers:

And ... "fanatic over it" ... please please please ... just because people go to church, believe in god and occasionally push against each other to see some dead "saint" or get some holly water ... these are more to do with peoples character/education

[bgrs]

I hate my neighbour from the appartment on the left!

[nebunul]

look we got our first BLack bus driver in Warsaw

We've got two black TV presenters (a she and a he) for the last few years now ...

[lkm370]

bosnia

hates:
corruption
RS and Fbih
shitty economy
shitty social services
no roads, no infansutructure
lack of progress in smaller cities
rising food prices
all the politicians
balkan menatality
huge ignorance of all 3 sides about history and the war

likes:
nature
sarajevo
culture
history(excluding the war)
the fact that we have gone 12 years without starting another war is unbelivable
music
hot chicks
many opportunities to be a drug dealer

USA

hate:
bush and conservatives
the bible belt
evangelical christian nutballs
lack of social services
poverty in some areas
shitty transportation and outdated infastrucutre
no free healthcare
all of south USA sucks balls and i would never recommend living there
african americans are really racist

likes:
easy to make money
easy to bang an american chick b/c they are sluts
easy to get a job
easty to buy a car or house
north pacific and northwest
diversity and overall most people get along
NYC, seattle,boston

[bgrs]

many opportunities to be a drug dealer

Don't they usually end bad in Bosnia? At least here many do...no, I'm not talking about getting jailed, that's usually the better end.

[lkm370]

Don't they usually end bad in Bosnia? At least here many do...no, I'm not talking about getting jailed, that's usually the better end.


idk, but i read many stories that bosnia is pretty much the number one drug trafficking spot in europe and alot of drugs are grown and made here because are police are too lazy and corrupt to do anything

[Zmey]

Bosnia:

Sarajevo

Hate:

- commie blocks (damaged facades, closed balconies and turned into rooms)
- neighborhoods with junkies
- people who feel superior for being born here (though they parents came from near by mountains)
- favela looking neighborhoods on the hills surrounding the city (and love them at the same time)
- new tasteless mosques (too high or too short minarets, strange architectural style)
- flea markets in city's hearth
- beggers
- smelly trolley buses
- city buss station
- smelly river (during summer)
- some faculties are hideous
- students are worse
- low salaries

Love:

- my neighbors :)
- fashionable girls and guys
- coffee culture
- Vilsonovo (esplanade)
- people who always have time for nice talk over coffee (lazy bastards :D)
- cashier lady giving you a chewing gum instead of coins
- Bosnian language (rough and soft at the same time, elegant, expressive)
- cevapi, pita and other Bosnian wonders at Bascarsija
- tahan halva at sweets boutique "Badem"
- Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian architecture
- Sarajevo covered with snow
- cheep food, drinks, taxis
- old neighborhoods
- more gays than in my hometown and thus more sex for me :lol:
- bice bolje (it will be better) mentality

Zenica
(my hometown)

Hate:

- Iron factory
- heavy smell of burned coal
- sea of commie blocks
- depressed people
- my high school and teachers
- soc-realistic flavor of the city (it's charming sometimes)
- KPD (biggest prison in the country)

Love:

- huge, but I mean huge parks
- new major, Mr. Husein
- booming economy
- cheap apartments
- I would like to write some more positive stuff, but there aren't any :D

[Majevčan]

(jews destroy the 3rd reich through economy...)... - WTF ???
I am a Jew and I do not remember me destroying Germany or Austria, I remember Yanks, Brits, Canadians, Russians and allies did.

Didn't you claim you were a croat from London or so?

[pt82]

http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/6431925.jpg

[ProMKD]

Macedonia

Likes:
-Natural beauty
-The hospitality of the people!
-Night Life
-Beautiful women
-Monasteries/Churches
-Archaeological Sites / Fortresses
-Excellent food
-National Unity
-People's Pride

Dislikes:
-Corruption (there is dramatic improvement)
-How albanians isolate themselves..
-Takes too long to get things done (laws/investments)
-People generally think imports are better (this is also changing)
-People think "this only happens here" when it happens EVERYWHERE..
-Leftover government employees from the communist regime (slowly retiring :D )

[Dwartbg]

1.That Bulgaria is the oldest country in Europe.
2.That Bulgaria is the birthplace of the Cyrillic Alphabet
3.That the nature is extremely beautiful
4.That a Bulgarian has invented the Computer
5.That Bulgaria had a Space Program
6.That Bulgarian singers/groups have Grammy Awards
7.That Bulgaria is visited yearly by about 7 million tourists
8.That Bulgaria has the largest IMAX3D Cinema in the world
9.That Bulgaria has the largest Sports Complex in Europe
10.That Bulgaria had a big automobile industry in the past
11.That Bulgaria is in the European Union and NATO.
12.That Bulgaria fostered the world's oldest known writing system (Gradezhnitsa tablets)
13.That Bulgaria's civilized history dates back more than six millennia
14.That Bulgaria ranks third in the world according to the number of cultural and historical sites, after Greece and Italy.
15.Bulgaria is the birthplace of Orpheus and Spartacus.
16.Bulgaria is one of the oldest members of the Antarctic Treaty System and has scientific bases on Antarctica.
17.That Bulgaria has reached the semi-finals in the FIFA World Cup 1994
18.That a Bulgarian animator has created episodes for many Cartoon Network shows
19. That the most popular Russian Singer - Filip Kirkorov was born in Bulgaria and his father is a Bulgarian.
20.That the yoghurt was invented in Bulgaria and it is the only country in the world that has the bactery needed for making yogurth.
21.That Bulgaria hosts the biggest observatories in Eastern Europe
22.That Bulgaria has the most developed winter resort in Eastern Europe
23.That Bulgaria has one of the strongest volleyball teams in Europe
24.That one of the top chess-masters in the world is a Bulgarian
25.That in the olympic games in 1980 , Bulgaria was on third place by won medals.
26.That the National Palace of Culture was proclaimed the best congress centre in the world.
27.That Bulgaria has the 22nd most Expensive street in the world
28.That The American College of Sofia is the oldest American institution outside the United States
29.That Bulgaria had a major role in the Harry Potter universe.
30.That Rita Wilson , who is Tom Hanks wife , was born in Bulgaria and her father is a Bulgarian.
31.That The central park of Sofia - ''Borisova Gradina'' is actually larger than ''Central Park'' in New York.
32.That Bulgaria has one of the best sumo-wrestlers in the world
33.That Bulgaria is the largest producer of AK-47 , after Russia .
34.That Bulgarian-made hanguns ''Makarov'' were used by the main characters in some episodes of the world famous TV Serial - ''LOST''.
35.That the Balkan Peninsula derives its name from a mountain in Bulgaria
36.That Bulgaria was holding the title - ''Unofficial FIFA World Champion'' on August 1985.
37.That Bulgaria is the country that has most appereances on FIFA World Cups and European Championships in Eastern Europe
38.That Bulgaria is the only country that saved its entire jewish population during World War II
39.Hewlett-Packard,built its Global Service Centre for Europe, the Middle East and Africa in Bulgaria.
40.That Microsoft Bulgaria , is the largest Microsoft producer in Eastern Europe.
41.That Bulgaria is the country with most tourist summer and spa resorts on the Black Sea coast
42.Bulgaria is the only country in Eastern Europe , that has a replica of the "Eiffel Tower".
43.That ''News Corporation'' owned by Ruppert Murdock , made its central for Eastern Europe called ''Balkan News Corporation'' in Bulgaria.
44.That Bulgaria is one of the first countries in Europe to have a Tramway public transit.
45.That A Bulgarian doctor made possible the Full Knowledge of the Human Heart.
46.That A Bulgarian folklore song is provided on The Voyager Golden Record which is a phonograph record included in the two Voyager spacecraft launched in 1977.
47.One of the creators of the virtual cinematography , used in ''The Matrix'' is a Bulgarian.
48.That A Bulgarian found the most far known planet for astronomers in the world.
49.The first woman pilot in the world is a Bulgarian
50.The Statue of Leonardo Da Vinci, which stands in the Rome Airport in Italy , was made by a Bulgarian Sculptor.
51.The Germany's EU Coins were invented by a Bulgarian woman.
52.The World's First Digital Wristwatch was developed by a Bulgarian inventor.
53.The First Air-dropped Bomb in Military History , was developed by the Bulgarian Air-Force during the First Balkan War in 1912.
54.The Photocopy technique and the Photocopy machine , were invented by a Bulgarian Scientist.
55.Bulgaria has most wins and medals for rhytmic gymnastics in the world.
56.One of the first inventors of ''Boeing'' airplanes is a Bulgarian.
57.In it's military history , Bulgaria never lost a flag captured by a enemy army.
58.A Bulgarian book was used for making of the famous ''14 points for a peaceful world'' and establishing the United Nations.
60.The developer of the combined oral contraceptive pill is a Bulgarian scientist.
61.Bulgaria produces half of the Rose oil in the world.
62.The Ferris wheel was invented in Bulgaria.
63.The oldest golden treasure in the world was found in Bulgaria.
64.Varna is on 2nd place in the ''Cities with most beautiful women in the world '' chart.
65.That a Bulgarian scientist has lead the engineering team who made 'Apollo 11'.

[bgrs]

1,2,7,8,9,13,21,26,28,31,33,40,42,45,48,54,55,57,62,64 can't be true :)

[Cosmin]

Even I can spot the ton of crap in the above list.:lol: Btw, we have a replica of the Eiffel Tower in Slobozia.:lol:
29.That Bulgaria had a major role in the Harry Potter universe.
:doh:

[Le Clerk]

Even I can spot the ton of crap in the above list.:lol: Btw, we have a replica of the Eiffel Tower in Slobozia.:lol:

:doh:

And of the Dallas "Crawford" ranch, belonging to the same owner as Le Tour d'Effel. :bash::lol:

[COTNARI]

Even I can spot the ton of crap in the above list.:lol: Btw, we have a replica of the Eiffel Tower in Slobozia.:lol:

:doh:

sad but true :bash:

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2420326.jpg

[Turnovec]

Even I can spot the ton of crap in the above list.:lol: Btw, we have a replica of the Eiffel Tower in Slobozia.:lol:

:doh:

^^ Half of that list is redicolous, no doubt :)

About Harry Potter - the author was inspired by the football team of Bulgaria from 1994 and is writting about the NT of Bulgaria on the Final of the Kwidich World Cup or sort of fantasy game . :nuts:

Viktor Krum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Krum#Viktor_Krum) was a Seeker for the Bulgarian Quidditch team. In the 1994 Quidditch World Cup title game between Bulgaria and Ireland, he suffered a severe bloody nose during the match and caught the Snitch as quickly as he could to end the match, which handed victory to Ireland because Bulgaria was trailing by 160 points at the time.

Victor Krum played by the bulgarian actor Stanislav Ianevski (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1648506/)

http://kenny17.free.fr/galleriehp/albums/userpics/10001/viktor_krum.jpg

OKeE1dTibx0

[dewrob]

66. That Bulgarians are the most modest nation in the world... at least according to the list above :lol:

:jk:

[Cosmin]

Turnovec, I don't doubt it, but it seems a bit...:doh:
:lol:
66. That Bulgarians are the most modest nation in the world... at least according to the list above :lol:

:jk:
Wait till you see us Romanians.:rofl:

[Turnovec]

^^ Well from what i read more than half of that list is actually true ;) We defenetely have a lot to be proud of.

But to be proud of Harry Potter is ... :nuts: I agree Cosmin.

[dewrob]

^^

so are you proud for let's say No 4?

[Cosmin]

I regard Charles Babbage to be responsible of no. 4.:crazy:

[Turnovec]

^^

so are you proud for let's say No 4?

^^ I would just change it to american scientist with bulgarian origins which John Atanasov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Vincent_Atanasoff) actually was. :cheers:

[Cosmin]

Babbage died in 1871, long before Atanasoff was even born, in 1903. Also I was talking about the first computer concept, not the first electronic digital computer. Also, the first digital computer was invented by Konrad Zuse, a German.:)

[Turnovec]

Babbage died in 1871, long before Atanasoff was even born, in 1903. Also I was talking about the first computer concept, not the first electronic digital computer.:)

^^ So are you considering Leonardo Da Vinci as the inventor of the helicopter too instead of Sikorsky ?

[dewrob]

^^ I would just change it to american scientist with bulgarian origins which John Atanasov actually was. :cheers:

true that's correct. But I don't get this proud thing (I'm not criticizing you for this we all do the very same thing).

He was not a great scientist because of his origins, but because he was smart and equality important because he lived in a country/society which provided the circumstances and the motive to achieve such great goals. Had he stayed in Bulgaria he probably wouldn't have done anything close to that similarly as Tesla probably wouldn't have developed wireless transfer of electricity.

[Cosmin]

Very true, dewrob!:) The same goes for many other scientists from our countries... it's rather the Americans, French, British or Germans who have more reasons to be proud.

[Turnovec]

true that's correct. But I don't get this proud thing (I'm not criticizing you for this we all do the very same thing).

He was not a great scientist because of his origins, but because he was smart and equality important because he lived in a country/society which provided the circumstances and the motive to achieve such great goals. Had he stayed in Bulgaria he probably wouldn't have done anything close to that similarly as Tesla probably wouldn't have developed wireless transfer of electricity.

^^ That is also true ... same is with our world famous opera singers like Ghena Dimitrova (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghena_Dimitrova), Boris Christoff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Christoff), Nikolai Giaurov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolai_Ghiaurov) ... or Raina Kabaivanska (http://www.ucis.pitt.edu/opera/OFB/stars/kab01.htm) that was one of the closest friends of Pavaroti and sang first on his funeral .... and the dozens others ...

If they didn't go to New York , Milano etc. etc. they were probably never gonna be famous or so good singers , but that doesn't change the fact that they are of bulgarian origin.

Or was Stoichkov gonna win the Golden Ball for best footballer in Europe in 1994 if he didn't play for Barcelona but for CSKA? I doubt....

[Olympios]

Nice idea guys. Let's start saying now the urban myths of our countries.
I'll continue the list for Gr:
It's true that
1) Sarkozy is Greek.
2) Computers are based on the Greek alphabet.

You may proceed now!

[RawLee]

Sarkozy is half-hungarian...

[Cosmin]

^^ So are you considering Leonardo Da Vinci as the inventor of the helicopter too instead of Sikorsky ?
In a sense... yes. He invented the concept, just like Babbage invented the concept of the computer. But I don't really think too much about who first came up with x thing... cause it's very hard to point to that moment in time when something as complex as a computer or helicopter was invented. They were many people that contributed to what we now know as computers for example...

[dewrob]

Very true, dewrob!:) The same goes for many other scientists from our countries... it's rather the Americans, French, British or Germans who have more reasons to be proud.

yes that's much more accurate Cosmin, but even than its not so simple. America is such a great country, among many other things because there are poor nations in the world who do much of the dirty work which makes easier for them to concentrate their resources on R&D for example. Or the British empire was so strong again among many other reasons because it sucked shitloads of resources from its colonies.

Therefore we are all creators (maybe equally important) in the developments and advances of human kind regardless if some of us have an insignificant role in the process at first glance. In a way this is symbiosis.

Hence assigning a national tag to some human advance, achievement or whatever is utterly wrong. It's all world heritage.

:cheers:

[Olympios]

Sarkozy is half-hungarian...
I was ironic :crazy:
OT, Sarkozy has also a jew ancestry from Thessaloniki.

[Cosmin]

Nicolas Sarkozy is the son of a Hungarian immigrant father, Pál Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa (Hungarian: nagybócsai Sárközy Pál; some sources spell it Nagy-Bócsay Sárközy Pál; Hungarian pronunciation ) and a mother of French Catholic and Greek Jewish descent, Andrée Mallah. His Greek-born grandfather, Benico Mallah (former Aaron Mallah), was a physician from Thessaloniki. Benico, who left for France to become a doctor, was the son of Mordechai Mallah, one of the eight sons of Aaron Mallah, founder of the Rabbinical School of Thessaloniki.
Seems you are both right.:cheers: However, I say he's French.:rofl:

[dewrob]

In a sense... yes. He invented the concept, just like Babbage invented the concept of the computer. But I don't really think too much about who first came up with x thing... cause it's very hard to point to that moment in time when something as complex as a computer or helicopter was invented. They were many people that contributed to what we now know as computers for example...

excately... it's a process it can't be pointed to one person or time frame. Da Vinci didn't take the concept out of the blue, he embedded all his knowledge that some other people before that developed and documented.

[RawLee]

I was ironic :crazy:
OT, Sarkozy has also a jew ancestry from Thessaloniki.

You can have him...he doesnt help us much...although when he visited the construction site of metro 4,he told the french company building it to work faster..and they do.

[Olympios]

You can have him...he doesnt help us much...although when he visited the construction site of metro 4,he told the french company building it to work faster..and they do.
meh, I would prefer Carla...

[Cosmin]

meh, I would prefer Carla...
Wtf are you talking about?! He's sexy as hell! This is his Tom Cruise in Top Gun look.:crazy:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3018/150pxsarkozyqb1.jpg

[Dwartbg]

Cosmin , I would just say that you are jealous. ALL THE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT JOHN ATANASOV.

And everything what I've written is 100% true, except the Eiffel Tower. Trust me I've been collecting this information from more than a year.

[Turnovec]

So dewrob , Cosmin what is the problem ?

I can't see here someone assigning the invention of the computer to Bulgaria.But should we neglect the fact that John Atanasoff , the man who designed and built the first electronic, digital computer (non-programmable) was of Bulgarian origin , especially when the guy was not ashamed of the fact and was even carying and curious to know more about the country of his father when he was still alive ?

Of course USA, Germany , France, UK, Italy etc. take the credit for the technical progress of the humanity , but does that change the fact that one man who made one of those small steps in the making of that progress was of our blood ?

[Cosmin]

Cosmin , I would just say that you are jealous. ALL THE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT JOHN ATANASOV.
Yeah, I guess I had this coming. I'm jelous on Bulgaria and Atanasov.:nuts: Why not being jelous on UK and Babbage? Wtf, man? Do you read what you post? I was just expressing my idea.:lol:

So dewrob , Cosmin what is the problem ?
Didn't realise there was a problem. I thought we are just discussing... and I never doubted the guy's Bulgarian heritage.

[dewrob]

So dewrob , Cosmin what is the problem ?

I can't see here someone assigning the invention of the computer to Bulgaria.But should we neglect the fact that John Atanasoff , the man who designed and built the first electronic, digital computer (non-programmable) was of Bulgarian origin , especially when the guy was not ashamed of the fact and was even carying and curious to know more about the country of his father when he was still alive ?

there is no problem, we are discussing in general if you haven't noticed, Atanasoff's case is just taken as an example. We all have our own "Atanasoff's".

Of course USA, Germany , France, UK, Italy etc. take the credit for the technical progress of the humanity , but does that change the fact that one man who made one of those small steps in the making of that progress was of our blood ?

of course it doesn't change the fact but.... why does it matter?

[bgrs]

And everything what I've written is 100% true, except the Eiffel Tower. Trust me I've been collecting this information from more than a year.

It is not.

[Dwartbg]

I won't write here again ever ... All I see is some stupid 'EXTREMELY PROUD' idiots , who never will accept the fact that Bulgaria has given much to the world, and is much more important that other Balkan countries.

And 'dewrob' , just don't forget that Macedonia is BULGARIA. So you should just shut-up in posts like that, and try to pretend that you're from another country.

[Dwartbg]

It is not.

Tell me , which is not you fat sucker ???

[bgrs]

^^ I already pointed them out.

Please, behave.

[Cosmin]

Let's take Henri Coandă for example, considered to be the inventor of the first jet powered aircraft. The guy was born and raised in Romania. He's father was Romanian, he's mother Romanian of French descent. At 18 he went to Berlin, then to Belgium, where he met Caproni, then to France (Paris). It's true he's Romanian and he returned to Romania several times, but can his scientific ascent be regarded as Romania's merit? I doubt. So I'm a bit wary of this overrated pride we all have (more or less) about these scientists and inventors.

I won't write here again ever ... All I see is some stupid 'EXTREMELY PROUD' idiots , who never will accept the fact that Bulgaria has given much to the world, and is much more important that other Balkan countries.
Can you see the irony?:rofl:

[Dwartbg]

No , they are correct .... Why do you think that they are not correct ??

[Turnovec]

It is not.

^^ Be carefull what you write bgrs, i received a very spicy p.m. from the guy ...


of course it doesn't change the fact but.... why does it matter?

If it was a bulgarian who plays for the volleyball NT of Italy like Hristo Zlatanov for example it doesn't matter.... but if Atanasoff himself before and his grand sons now wanted Bulgaria to be proud of that fact and are still coming to Bulgaria and carying about the country it does matter. :cheers:

[dewrob]

I won't write here again ever ...


hopefully, that would be nice of you :yes:

All I see is some stupid 'EXTREMELY PROUD' idiots , who never will accept the fact that Bulgaria has given much to the world, and is much more important that other Balkan countries.

you see right through us mate :lol::lol::lol:


And 'dewrob' , just don't forget that Macedonia is BULGARIA. So you should just shut-up in posts like that, and try to pretend that you're from another country.

I already knew you were an idiot, you didn't have to put the effort to prove that further :)

[dia]

true that's correct. But I don't get this proud thing (I'm not criticizing you for this we all do the very same thing).

He was not a great scientist because of his origins, but because he was smart and equality important because he lived in a country/society which provided the circumstances and the motive to achieve such great goals. Had he stayed in Bulgaria he probably wouldn't have done anything close to that similarly as Tesla probably wouldn't have developed wireless transfer of electricity.

We are two in this.

I can't say I am proud. I have an immense respect for people like him and many others. The fact that Atanassoff for instance, has Bulgarian origins, and it seems his descendants are proud of it, makes it just easier for me to understand where he came from, what he managed to achieve and respects him more than I would do if he didn't have those origins. But it's a question of understanding. If he wasn't "Bulgarian" I just wouldn't know that much about him- it's simple.

Now I have myself some other things I am proud of, which may seem rather strange to the majority of people. Everyone can chose. But I would so much prefer if people are not proud with celebrities but rather take them as role-models. If all the Bulgarians take the reasoning of Levski concerning the ideal for Bulgaria, the sensibility of Botev, the political wisdom of.. let's say Boris-Michail, I would jump from joy :)

And if someone is interested what I am prod of, take a look at this:

VUacgOhFERA

I am not only proud of this because I made a tiny, tiny participation in all this. I am proud because tons of people like me managed to prove themselves another tons of things and all this without victims.

[Cosmin]

I've said it before... Balkans/EE... the dumpster of SSC (together with DLM of course)!:D We so easily get into mini flame wars from nothing.:)

[Turnovec]

^^ Dia :) You know what to be proud of :okay:

And if in such times some other peoples prefer to burn foreign embassies , we on the other hand jump on the sickheads in our own parliament or on the party house of the sickest party in the world ... Can you see the irony ? ;)

[RawLee]

I've said it before... Balkans/EE... the dumpster of SSC (together with DLM of course)!:D We so easily get into mini flame wars from nothing.:)

What are you talking about? This is the best place on the entire SSC...like a pub,full of drunkards...unique atmosphere,where you can expect a new flame-war every day! I just love it...we lack such things in CE...

[Turnovec]

I've said it before... Balkans/EE... the dumpster of SSC (together with DLM of course)!:D We so easily get into mini flame wars from nothing.:)

^^ Well at least finally some Deki or tzobee look-alike from Bulgaria appeared on the scene :lol:

[Cosmin]

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I see that DLM is only the mental institution of SSC. EE/Balkans is indeed more like some pub... though I prefer the word "dumpster".:D

RawLee, we want Fradista to be a citizen of EE!:lol:

[dia]

^^ Dia :) You know what to be proud of :okay:

And if in such times some other peoples prefer to burn foreign embassies , we on the other hand jump on the sickheads in our own parliament or on the party house of the sickest party in the world ... Can you see the irony ? ;)

Turnovec btw, take a look at the other videos of the guy that uploaded this material. Almost all of them make me cry even if the reasons are not the same.

RawLee, yesh, yesh! :D

[RawLee]

RawLee, we want Fradista to be a citizen of EE!:lol:

Ask the mods...he was banned for being too "emotional"...:nuts:

[Cosmin]

God damn!:rant: Bad things happen to good people, eh?:(

[RawLee]

God damn!:rant: Bad things happen to good people, eh?:(

:lol: Without him,even this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=585306) thread stood clean,although it was a very good topic for a nice flame...

[Turnovec]

Turnovec btw, take a look at the other videos of the guy that uploaded this material. Almost all of them make me cry even if the reasons are not the same.


^^ I think i know what you mean :okay: Btw, did you really take part in the January demonstrations ? I was just watching on the TV as i was last class in the highschool back then.

Cherveni Bokluci ! :D

[Cosmin]

:lol: Without him,even this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=585306) thread stood clean,although it was a very good topic for a nice flame...
That topic was GOLD, but without a real talent like Fradista all was lost...:(

[Le Clerk]

This is so serious, though I wish it was not. I hate those HHungarian parties in Romania who stir things up between Romanians and Hungarians like they shouldn't or needn't, and behave like full fledged communists, which start to bug me more than the Romanian extremist parties.

Just a small recent example, following a referendum on local territorail autonomy in 2 regions in Romania dominated by Hungarian minority, the police discovered hundreds of voting bulletins burned in a garbage bin which were marked with the NO stamp (as in, the voters disagreed with the autonomy, many of them Hungarians)...and such parties seem to have burned and thrown them to the garbage bin....:bash:

I hate when politicians play with peoples' lives in the most perfect communist and non-democratic way just to get more votes and to get some goals in a totally unfair way. :bash:

[bgrs]

OK.

That Bulgaria is the oldest country in Europe.

No, Byzantia for example is older. Today, there is no more Byzantia, yet at the same time where was that Bulgarian country 2 centuries ago?

That Bulgaria is the birthplace of the Cyrillic Alphabet
The birthplace was Solun/Thessaloniki which is not Bulgarian, but Byzantine.

That Bulgaria is visited yearly by about 7 million tourists

It is about 5 million, not 7, official data.

That Bulgaria has the largest IMAX3D Cinema in the world
The biggest one is in Sydney, Australia

That Bulgaria has the largest Sports Complex in Europe
And which is that?


.That Bulgaria's civilized history dates back more than six millennia
Sadly, "Bulgaria" was unknown word back then for sure.

That Bulgaria hosts the biggest observatories in Eastern Europe
Rozhen observatory is the biggest one in SE, not EE. And if you replace "observatories" with "observatory" you'll be more correct.

That the National Palace of Culture was proclaimed the best congress centre in the world.
By who?

That The American College of Sofia is the oldest American institution outside the United States

You see, there were American embassies long before we got our Independance in 1878.

That The central park of Sofia - ''Borisova Gradina'' is actually larger than ''Central Park'' in New York.

From the Sofia Municipality site:
Описание: Парк "Борисова градина"
Граници: югозапад - подстанция "Юнак"; югоизток - алея; североизток - игрища и спортни площадки; северозапад - алея посока стадион "ЦСКА";
Паспортизация: 1986 г.
Обща площ: 14981 кв.м;


From Wikipedia:
Central Park is a large public, urban park (843 acres, 3.41 km², 1.32 mi²; a rectangle 2.5 statute miles by 0.5 statute mile, or 4 km × 800 m) in the borough of Manhattan in New York City

That Bulgaria is the largest producer of AK-47 , after Russia .
It WAS.

That Microsoft Bulgaria , is the largest Microsoft producer in Eastern Europe.
Microsoft does not have a R&D center in Bulgaria and Microsoft Bulgaria does not produce anything. It HAS the biggest call-centre in SE though.

The Photocopy technique and the Photocopy machine , were invented by a Bulgarian Scientist.

A Bulgarian discovered the photoelectric polarization effect. But the inventors of the first photocopy machines were actually Americans.

In it's military history , Bulgaria never lost a flag captured by a enemy army.
It is true but after 1878.

The Ferris wheel was invented in Bulgaria.
I'd like to see some proof to that claim

Varna is on 2nd place in the ''Cities with most beautiful women in the world '' chart.
Who made that chart? The 24 chasa newspaper?

[Cosmin]

start to bug me more than the Romanian extremist parties.
Neah, they're all the same. Dumb twats.:)

I don't give a shit about their so called referendum... there are many Hungarians from that region that don't want to hear about autonomy. They say they've grown with Romanians around them, they're together both in bad and good and that this autonomy thing is just political bullshit. But this is off-topic here. We can move this discussion on the appropriate DLM thread if you want. Maybe we can have a sort of flame war barbeque or something... who's inviting Van&Dyk? I'll bring the pork chops!:cheers:

bgrs, I wouldn't waste my time with that guy.;) And btw, that bs about Sofia's central park being larger than NY's Central Park seems to be some regional bs story. I've heard a few people in Bucharest claiming Herăstrău park in Bucharest is larger than Central Park, so...:lol:

[RawLee]

dominated by (...) minority

How can a minority dominate?

[Le Clerk]

How can a minority dominate?

^^ 2 regions in Romania dominated by Hungarian minority

RawLee, I hope you understand I do not want to create a flame war here (I think we miss the good old days :lol: ) but I am annoyed of some of the political parties' attempt to brake the genuine harmony among people of different nationalities in Romania. And such parties belong to both Romanian and Hungarian nationalities...however, using such outright undemocratic means to prove one's point is something that annoys people because it demonstrates the ill-will that such parties dismiss as being only a feature of the extremist parties. :bash:

[Cosmin]

RawLee, I hope you understand I do not want to create a flame war here
Pff!:( Noob!

[Le Clerk]

Pff!:( Noob!

Yeah, I know I dissapoint people...I am not anymore in the mood of starting or maintaing flame wars..:lol:

[Cosmin]

It's called a mid-life crisis...:lol:

[RawLee]

^^

RawLee, I hope you understand I do not want to create a flame war here (I think we miss the good old days :lol: ) but I am annoyed of some of the political parties' attempt to brake the genuine harmony among people of different nationalities in Romania. And such parties belong to both Romanian and Hungarian nationalities...however, using such outright undemocratic means to prove one's point is something that annoys people because it demonstrates the ill-will that such parties dismiss as being only a feature of the extremist parties. :bash:

Neither do I,especially since that event didnt make it to the news here...flame-wars based on ideology is always a lose-lose,since its based on ideologies and POVs,not on facts...and the entire question of HU&RO is based on ideologies...

[Le Clerk]

Neither do I,especially since that event didnt make it to the news here...flame-wars based on ideology is always a lose-lose,since its based on ideologies and POVs,not on facts...and the entire question of HU&RO is based on ideologies...

Yeah...I also agree...let's leave it like that. :cheers:

[dewrob]

^^ Be carefull what you write bgrs, i received a very spicy p.m. from the guy ...

:lol: please share, although it wouldn't be ethical. But the guy is really making his way through the forum.

If it was a bulgarian who plays for the volleyball NT of Italy like Hristo Zlatanov for example it doesn't matter.... but if Atanasoff himself before and his grand sons now wanted Bulgaria to be proud of that fact and are still coming to Bulgaria and carying about the country it does matter. :cheers:

whatever, you are missing my point as usually we just have different mindsets. I can be proud of what I do in life I can't be proud because some Macedonian kicks ass just as I can't be ashamed that some Macedonian is an idiot.

[Cosmin]

I can be proud of what I do in life I can't be proud because some Macedonian kicks ass just as I can't be ashamed that some Macedonian is an idiot.
:cheers:

[Turnovec]

whatever, you are missing my point as usually we just have different mindsets. I can be proud of what I do in life I can't be proud because some Macedonian kicks ass just as I can't be ashamed that some Macedonian is an idiot.

^^ I agree , but that won't stop me from celebrating or feeling happy if some Bulgarian kicks ass somewhere in the world , or to feel grief if let's say some talanted singer of Bulgarian origin dies in a car accident somewhere in europe.

We not only have different mindsets, we are also of a different stock, ethnicity, nationality and speak different languages as well :cheers:

[dewrob]

^^ I agree , but that won't stop me from celebrating or feeling happy if some Bulgarian kicks ass somewhere in the world , or to feel greef if let's say some talanted singer of Bulgarian origin dies in a car accident somewhere in europe.

We not only have different mindsets, we are also of a different stock, ethnicity, nationality and speak different languages as well :cheers:

:crazy:

what is this, an innate reflex?

[Turnovec]

:crazy:

what is this, an innate reflex?

^^ I guess that's what each macedonian wants to hear from the mouth of a bulgarian :) Aren't you happy to hear that from me ?

[dewrob]

^^ I guess that's what each macedonian wants to hear from the mouth of a bulgarian :) Aren't you happy to hear that from me ?

:lol: you are a pro man... seriously... U make KM look like a kitten :)

take this as a compliment

[Turnovec]

:lol: you are a pro man... seriously... U make KM look like a kitten :)

take this as a compliment

^^ I have nothing in common with KM, sorry :) Comparing me with him is rather an insult , than a compliment. :)

And by the way that last sentence ...

we are also of a different stock, ethnicity, nationality and speak different languages as well :cheers:

You could take it as something that we both could finally agree on :)

[dewrob]

^^ I have nothing in common with KM, sorry :) Comparing me with him is rather an insult , than a compliment. :)

I respectfully disagree... U both have very similar subtle methods :)

[Turnovec]

I respectfully disagree... U both have very similar subtle methods :)

^^ Well it seems that we'll never reach an agreement on something with you. :)

[dewrob]

^^ Well it seems that we'll never reach an agreement on something with you. :)

it's gonna be a boring world if we agree on everything... Plus they will rename us to Nordic & Baltic or something.... We gotta live up to our Balkan name :horse:

[Turnovec]

it's gonna be a boring world if we agree on everything... Plus they will rename us to Nordic & Baltic or something.... We gotta live up to our Balkan name :horse:

^^ Well let's hope they won't rename us on some other parts of the europe/asia while we live up on that name :)

[dewrob]

:badnews:

Dwartbg is already banned :(. I had great expectations from that guy

[blue79]

OK.

That Bulgaria is the oldest country in Europe.

No, Byzantia for example is older. Today, there is no more Byzantia, yet at the same time where was that Bulgarian country 2 centuries ago?

I guess he means that Bg is the only country in Europe that carries the same name from it's foundation to present day.

That Bulgaria is the birthplace of the Cyrillic Alphabet
The birthplace was Solun/Thessaloniki which is not Bulgarian, but Byzantine.

Hehe,koi e hodil po kafeta vmesto v chas po istorija;).Barkash gi s Glagolicata

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet

:cheers:

[3tmk]

That sure was a load of garbage

[Turnovec]

I guess he means that Bg is the only country in Europe that carries the same name from it's foundation to present day.


Hehe,koi e hodil po kafeta vmesto v chas po istorija;).Barkash gi s Glagolicata

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet

:cheers:

^^ Macedonians might disagree with you on that wikipedia article ;)

[dewrob]

^^

do we really have to agree or disagree? They were 2 smart guys living in our turbulent region long time ago. To the least their work is regional heritage although it really is world heritage as we spoke already in this thread.

[blue79]

^^ Macedonians might disagree with you on that wikipedia article ;)

Ooo ze Macedonians,hehe.

I'm Macedonian myself,well kind of:),so don't you worry it'll be just a minor scandal in the familly:D


Hehe just kidding,about the scandal i mean:D
:cheers:

[Turnovec]

Ooo ze Macedonians,hehe.

I'm Macedonian myself,well kind of:),so don't you worry it'll be just a minor scandal in the familly:D


Hehe just kidding,about the scandal i mean:D
:cheers:

^^ ;)

So cheers for the world heritage ! :cheers:
... And for the good health of your family :D

[dewrob]

and the myths go on... :banana:

so long, my working hours are over :)

[Cosmin]

we are also of a different stock
What are you, sheep?:bash:

[Turnovec]

What are you, sheep?:bash:

^^ Do you know what the word stock means in english (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=78305&dict=CALD) ?

[Cosmin]

I have no fuckin' idea (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42879&dict=CALD).:cheers:

[dewrob]

I have no fuckin' idea (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42879&dict=CALD).:cheers:

:lol:

[pt82]

Sarkozy is half-hungarian...

nobody is perfect:cheers:

[ProMKD]

wow... one guy was able to turn a perfectly good thread into five pages of off topic garbage! Congratulations!! :D

[mitsurughi]

wow... one guy was able to turn a perfectly good thread into five pages of off topic garbage! Congratulations!! :D

my baby! they ruined it! it has a beard now :(

[new bulgaria]

Ay, yi, yi!!! I missed all the action!

[Turnovec]

Ay, yi, yi!!! I missed all the action!

^^ Well i missed all the action from friday in the macedonian thread , had to fetch up today a little bit :lol:

[Cosmin]

We should make a thread listing all the current flame wars on EE/Balkans section!:D That way we can have easy access to those threads and we'll never miss an interesting flame!:cheers:

...SMS alerts would also be nice.:crazy:

[dewrob]

We should make a thread listing all the current flame wars on EE/Balkans section!:D That way we can have easy access to those threads and we'll never miss an interesting flame!:cheers:

...SMS alerts would also be nice.:crazy:

Maybe we can add best EE flamewar in those Best of EE series :lol:

[SkaNdErBeG]

We should make a thread listing all the current flame wars on EE/Balkans section!:D That way we can have easy access to those threads and we'll never miss an interesting flame!:cheers:

...SMS alerts would also be nice.:crazy:

great idea :okay: :lol:

[Dulgeroff]

We should make a thread listing all the current flame wars on EE/Balkans section!:D That way we can have easy access to those threads and we'll never miss an interesting flame!:cheers:

...SMS alerts would also be nice.:crazy:

Done and done! :cheers::lol:

[Cosmin]

Thanks, Dulgeroff!:cheers: I wonder if 3tmk knows about this...:shifty: If trouble arises I'll plead insanity...:crazy:

[Dulgeroff]

Thanks, Dulgeroff!:cheers: I wonder is 3tmk knows about this...:shifty: If trouble arises I'll plead insanity...:crazy:

Don't worry, your Kramer avatar allows you to be different.:lol:

[Tego]

1.That Bulgaria is the oldest country in Europe.
2.That Bulgaria is the birthplace of the Cyrillic Alphabet
3.That the nature is extremely beautiful
4.That a Bulgarian has invented the Computer
5.That Bulgaria had a Space Program
6.That Bulgarian singers/groups have...

Dude, who let Volen Siderov register in this forum???!!!

[Cosmin]

Volen Siderov (Bulgarian: Волен Сидеров) (born 19 April 1956) is a controversial Bulgarian politician and chairman of the far right nationalist party Attack. He is famous for his hard-line attitude towards minorities in Bulgaria, especially Roma and Turks.
[...]
Siderov has been stigmatized and rejected as a populist and a xenophobe by virtually the entire Bulgarian establishment, including the mainstream media and political parties. He has been in the centre of a number of scandals, notably a notorious car accident on the Trakia highway. Siderov claimed that the incident had been an "assassination attempt", whereas the other driver asserted that Siderov's collaborator Pavel Chernev had broken his car window, punctured his tyres, hit him and threatened to kill him. Chernev at first confirmed Siderov's version, but later stated that Siderov had ordered him to give false testimony; he has since left the parliamentary group to create a rival nationalist organization. Siderov had allegedly been trying to conceal the fact that his driver had been Lyubomir Bakardzhiev, a man with criminal record — according to testimony by Chernev and Bakardzhiev himself.
WHAT?! He seems like a lovely guy!:D
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7977/170pxvolensiderovflickrqm6.jpg
Reminds me of Corneliu Vadim Tudor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corneliu_Vadim_Tudor).:crazy:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9563/200119616850654103hs9.jpg

[dewrob]

Dude, who let Volen Siderov register in this forum???!!!

:lol:

[bgrs]

hQp_ziToagg

Sieg Heil!

[insertnickhere]

no longer available.. ok who censored volen... lol


its a conspiracy! even utube is out to get him

[Cosmin]

What?:? I can see the vid. It's a cyber assassination attempt.:shifty:

[bgrs]

You must shout "14/88" trice at the microphone, otherwise it will not play! :)

[Ivanski]

Btw Dewrob I'm a little bit disappointed from you. I see that this is mainly off-topic thread but when someone writes something historical or any stuff of that kind that you don't like you post some very strong and critical position. But now I see you actually enjoy makin' fun especially about BGR discussions. And comparing all Bulgarians who you disagree to Volen is kinda dull.
Well I think that this is very hypocritical from your side.
I think your grand-grand-grandpa Alexander the Great wouldn't be glad. :lol:
Btw if you only knew what some very high Russian figure said about this "great" state of yours :banana: during Moscow delegation visit in Sofia. But i prefer to keep it for myself :)
Actually did the Americans come with an appropriate name for it yet:lol: I guess they're running some sms game or something. I prefer something more modern and futuristic like Republic of Skopie-Macedonia-Mars sounds very grooovy :cheers: :lol:

[radi6404]

Things I love in Bulgaria

The mountains, especially the Rila mountain which has no propblem to be compared with alpine mountains around the world.
The Struma motorway ofcourse

Things I hate in bulgaria
The fact that there are almost no good looking girls here and compared to other countries and that almost all of them are way too fat and there are virtually no skinny ones here at all.

Too many dirty and bumpy roads in the towns.

Too slow progress

[dewrob]

Btw Dewrob I'm a little bit disappointed from you.

hmmm... how will I sleep tonight...

I see that this is mainly off-topic thread but when someone writes something historical or any stuff of that kind that you don't like you post some very strong and critical position.

yeah I'm a lunatic cause I'd like to enjoy my time on a skyscraper, architecture and construction forum without being followed around by frustrated maniacs who get a hard on on people and events 100s of years old and try to stuff their erection in other peoples face :nuts: Don't you have many other forums on the net to do such things BTW?

But now I see you actually enjoy makin' fun especially iabout BGR discussions.

oh yeah that's why I registered, you blew my cover now :lol:

And comparing all Bulgarians who you disagree to Volen is kinda dull.

so where did I do this genius :)

Well I think that this is very hypocritical from your side.

:sleepy::sleepy::sleepy:

I think your grand-grand-grandpa Alexander the Great wouldn't be glad. :lol:

What the hell do I have to do with Alexander the Great :dunno:

Btw if you only knew what some very high Russian figure said about this "great" state of yours :banana: during Moscow delegation visit in Sofia. But i prefer to kept it for myself :)

do I really care what some politician somewhere says? I'm glad you are enjoying it though.

Actually did the Americans came with an appropriate name for it yet:lol: I guess they're running some sms game or something. I prefer something more moder and futuristic like Republic of Skopie-Macedonia-Mars sounds very grooovy :cheers: :lol:

let's see, trying to be funny I guess.... :hahano::hahano::hahano::hahano::hahano::hahano::hahano::hahano:

oh wait that wasn't funny you were just being a rude jerk

Relax Ivanski the world doesn't revolve around Bulgaria nor its history... There are far more important and interesting things out there.

Take it easy buddy :cheers:

[Ivanski]

Well I'm takin' it easy dude. I'm just not OK with the way you are trying to be ironic with most of the Bulgarian users. I think its quite a big challenge for a citizen from a country that hasn't even got an official name and waits for some politicians to come with one. Oh I forgot you don't care about them :)

And talking about me being a rude jerk :

frustrated maniacs;try to stuff their erection Thanks man you're obviously a very gentle person indeed.

[Cosmin]

Pissing myself laughing reading radi's and dewrob's posts.:rofl:

But hey, dewrob...
the world doesn't revolve around Bulgaria nor its history... There are far more important and interesting things out there.
this is where you're wrong.:ohno:
People should know that Bulgaria is the main power source for all other (poor) Balkan countries.

:cheers:

[Turnovec]

hey Ivanski :) Don't waste your time buddy. I really find you as a very fresh newcommer to the forum in the last couple of days. Don't wanna loose you for some stupid reason. Especially Macedonia related. :okay: stay cool , brother ! :cheers:

[Ivanski]

Well i see bein' sarcastic about Bulgaria is the top-fun around here.
I don't see any subforum for Bulgaria, or as many Bulgarian threads as the other EE states do have. But someone's got the impressions that for Bulgarians the world is turning around Bulgaria and its history - haha very funny.:ohno:
Well at least we have one.
Turnovec you're right dude. it's a waste of time to even try to make a normal point.

[Turnovec]

Relax Ivanski the world doesn't revolve around Bulgaria nor its history...

^^ Of course it doesn't ... but the flame wars in SSC seem to be revolvong mainly around Macedonia or Kosovo ... what an exsiting places those must be

[dewrob]

Well I'm takein it easy dude. I'm just not OK with the way you are trying to be ironic with most of the Bulgarian users.

you are on the forum for two days and you've figured it all out eh :). That's quite a big challenge even for someone from Bulgaria.

I think its quite a big challenge for a citizen from a country who hasn't even got an official name and waits for some politicians to come with one.

The name thing again? Come on think of something new, shuffle it up...


Oh I forgot you don't care about them :)

no I don't :)

Thanks man you're obviously a very gentle person indeed.

actually I'm... unless I'm dealing with frustrated maniacs :)

:cheers:

[Cosmin]

but the flame wars in SSC seem to be revolvong mainly around Macedonia or Kosovo
...or Poland, or Romania, or Turkey, or Russia, or Hungary, or Greece... and the list can go on. C'mon...:cheers:

[dewrob]

^^ Of course it doesn't ... but the flame wars in SSC seem to be revolvong mainly around Macedonia or Kosovo ... what an exsiting places those must be

well let's see our case... There is a never a flame war in a Bulgarian thread caused by us... but there is a regular flame war caused by some Bulgarians in Macedonian threads... quite indicative I'd say.

[dewrob]

it's a waste of time to even try to make a normal point.

you were trying to make a point??? :? :dunno:

[Ivanski]

So I guess you get a hard time dealing with yourself :lol:
Actually I'm reading the forum way back before my registration. It's not so hard to figure it out. Although I see it's not that easy for you. A matter of potential may be :lol:

[dewrob]

...or Poland, or Romania, or Turkey, or Russia, or Hungary, or Greece... and the list can go on. C'mon...:cheers:

don't bother Cosmin... Turnovec has a weak spot for Macedonia and Serbia :). He completely looses it in those cases. Otherwise he's a nice guy :)

[dewrob]

...

[dewrob]

So I guess you get a hard time dealing with yourself :lol:
Actually I'm reading the forum way back before my registration. It's not so hard to figure it out. Although I see it's not that easy for you. A matter of potential may be :lol:

:blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:

[Ivanski]

don't bother Cosmin... Turnovec has a weak spot for Macedonia and Serbia :). He completely looses it in those cases. Otherwise he's a nice guy :)

Well Dewrob he hasn't got the privilege to live in an artificial country. So he can't be that normal and sane as the Serbs and "Macednoians" are.
But the good thing is that now I can watch how those made-up product states are getting erased by their own creators. Isn't it ironic? So I'm not gonna waste my time in these thread I'm just going to get some popcorn lay back and enjoy the Mythbusters show in the upcoming years.
:cheers:

[Cosmin]

don't bother Cosmin... Turnovec has a weak spot for Macedonia and Serbia :)
Oh yeah... completely forgot about Serbia. Add it to the never ending list.;)
Otherwise he's a nice guy :)
True!:cheers:

[Turnovec]

^^ 3 blah-blah-blah posts in a row... thanks a lot dewrob :okay: now can we get back on topic ?

Did you guys knew the name of the guy (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/maney/2003-03-18-maney_x.htm) who made the first digital watch called Pulsar ? ;)

http://images.usatoday.com/money/_photos/2003/03-19-inventor.jpg

^^ He has an amazing biography.

[dewrob]

So I'm not gonna waste my time in these thread

that's good news :cheers:

[dewrob]

^^ 3 blah-blah-blah posts in a row... thanks a lot dewrob :okay:

yeah, I'm such a troll :nuts:

[Turnovec]

yeah, I'm such a troll :nuts:

^^ What's the problem ? Had a bad day today ? :dunno:

The wise man knows when to stop ...

[dewrob]

^^ What's the problem ? Had a bad day today ? :dunno:


come on don't get worked up now, we are just having a nice EE flame aren't we? :)

OK I'm wise now

P.S. Is SSC slow tonite for anyone else besides me?

[Cosmin]

Did you guys knew the name of the guy (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/maney/2003-03-18-maney_x.htm) who made the first digital watch called Pulsar ? ;)
He worked with Wernher von Braun in the 1960s to send astronauts into orbit, and in the 1990s helped build a start-up, Time Domain, that could be important to the next 20 years of wireless communications.
WOW!:eek: I guess this is one of those genius guys you rarely hear about till the day they die and then never again.:(

[Ivanski]

Btw Turnovec, Carl Djerassi (the guy who created first oral contraceptive pil) is half Bulgarian - his father was a Bulgarian Jew. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Miramontes_patent.jpg

[Ivanski]

oops-delete-

[Ivanski]

-double post- f#ck*d up connection

[Turnovec]

Btw Turnovec, Carl Djerassi (the guy who created first oral contraceptive pil) is half Bulgarian - his father was a Bulgarian Jew. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Miramontes_patent.jpg

^^ Ivanski i just heard about Petar Petroff , found his biography extra-ordinary and quite entertaining and wanted to share it with the rest of you ... He found it boring to learn to be a priest in Seminariata, Sofia, ande escaped and joined the French Foreign Legion :nuts: later the Germans captured him while invading France but released him for being Bulgarian ... he ended up in King Boris' palace guard ... and when the russians and commies came in power he faced a death penalty :nuts: Later escaped to USA and worked with Verner fon Braun , in the Gemini and Appolo programs , made the first digital watch ... etc. ... What a life this guy led , a ?

[Ivanski]

Well so read about Assen Yordanov - Jerry. Neil Armstrong said that he was actually learning by that guy books and methods. One of the brightest persons in aviation development and history;)

[RawLee]

P.S. Is SSC slow tonite for anyone else besides me?

It took me a minute to load this "post" window...and takes about the same to actually post this message...

[Cosmin]

Same here, for the last 2 days.:bash:

[COTNARI]

Same here, for the last 2 days.:bash:

true! here also!

e.g. the Brasov page killed my PC :bash:

BTW nice flame! sometimes I really miss FRADy :(

[bgrs]

I missed the fun :(

Let's restart the flame war, can we? :)

[dewrob]

I missed the fun :(

Let's restart the flame war, can we? :)

too early in the morning :). Plus you are 1 hour ahead it wouldn't be fair catching us still grumpy off guard :)

[bgrs]

OK, to be fair, I'll let you drink your cup of coffee then :)

[Ilsa_1]

[QUOTE=mic of Orion;16895859]
BTW, Nazis killed 12 million ppl in concentration camps, 6 million Jews, 2 million Roma, and 4 million others, Nazi ideology is something I hate deep down of my being, I can't stand them.

Where did you get those numbers? OR are you willing to spreading lies about others.
Simply have an decent look at the constantly changing numbers, issued by official media, politcians etc.:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/03de/zeitgeschichte/awitz_zahlen.htm

And think first, before you open your mouth!

[insertnickhere]

What?:? I can see the vid. It's a cyber assassination attempt.:shifty:


oh yeah you have to open it in a new window.. when i try to play it within the forum it gives me the error.. i feel stupid

volen will go away next elections, no worries about him.

[erbse]

-- dp --

[erbse]

I love everything 'bout Deutschland.

[AUTO]

In Poland

I hate:
- All the people are fuc***g egoists!

I love:
- Me! :)