Føniks
Sandnes - Norway

This 106m tall proposed building is situated in the new CBD (Central Busniess District) of the Stavanger/Sandnes
region, Forus. With 24 floors, or 27.000m2 of office space this will become the tallest high-rise building in Norway
outside Oslo if built. The project also includes a 14.000m2 large office building next to the tower. West-Norwegian
bank SR-bank is in charge of all steps in the prosess, and will also use the building as their headquarters when finished.
Construction will start in June 2010 with a complation in 2013.

The design itself is supposed to be like a screen fighting wind and sunshine. Architect Hans-Jørgen Moe in Brandsberg-
Dahls Arkitektkontor (http://www.bda.no/) claims that the structure is a sculpture, not a tall building.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks1smallb.jpg

More renderings, click to enlarge!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks1mini.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks1.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks3mini.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks3.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks5mini.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks5.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks4mini.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks4.jpg)

Damn I really like this one...Looks very good:yes:

Yep, very interesting! Love the lowrise part! :)

News from this high-rise:

Høyhus får dispensasjon fra Avinor
Det vakte forvirring og uro da det på forsommeren ble klart at SR-Banks planlagte kontortårn på Forus er i strid med luftfartsmyndighetenes høydebegrensninger.

Planleggingen av det 100 meter høye bygget var kommet langt. Planen var i tråd med gjeldende reguleringsplan, men reguleringsplanen hadde aldri vært på høring hos Avinor. Det hele løste seg med en dispensasjon så seint som 28. august.

- Vi måtte kjøre en grundig risikoanalyse. Bygget blir høyere enn høydebegrensningene, men det ligger på en linje mellom Skadbergåsen og Jåttånuten. Det vil derfor ikke skape et ekstra hinder og utgjør ikke noe problem for flytrafikken, sier eiendoms- og utbyggingssjef Morten Wathne ved Avinors kontor på Stavanger lufthavn. Luftfartstilsynet sluttet seg til vurderingen.

Bygget vil rage 106 meter over havet, mens Skadbergåsen er 102 og Jåttånuten 138 moh. Bygget må utstyres med hinderlys. Wathne sier at det bare er å beklage at problemstillingen ikke ble avklart da reguleringsplanen ble laget for noen år siden, men mener forklaringen kan ligge i at Avinor den gangen var under omorganisering.

English: Føniks gets approved by Avinor (Norwegian Aviation Administration).

Byplansjef roser banktårnet
- Kjempespennende. Jeg er forbundet med å være skeptisk til høyhus. Det stemmer. Men dette grepet med et signalbygg langs kollektivaksen på Forus er godt, sier byplansjef Jan A. Bekkeheien om SR-Banks 24 etasjer høye «Føniks». Han synes Brandsberg-Dahls tegninger er flotte og håper bygget lar seg realisere på tomta ved golfbanen.

English: Politicians praises Føniks, and is very positive to the design and height even though they have been very negative to high-rise proposals before.

An animation of Føniks by the architect, BDA (Brandsberg-Dahls Arkitektkontor):
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I like this one too. Looks very modern and inovative but still quite dignified. Great! :cheers:

The low-rise part is really great. :okay:

The high-rise itself isn't very exciting IMO. The design is good, but it's too wide. With that design it should be twice that tall.

Interesting thou.

This really looks promising. Not only is Avinor able to use common sense when required, but the politicians sound positive. And the building looks good! :)

I like Føniks. :)

The lowrise is great!

they should build more highrises in the same area thus this business area in the stavanger region is being overbuild by large area using lowrises.

A cluster of highrises will also help the metrotram line planned thrue forus to the airport building a stop in the middle of the highrise-cluster.

would look better aswell :-P

According to this article it's approved and building start as soon as 01.09.2008!
http://www.byggaktuelt.no/content.asp?ContentId=75600

According to this article it's approved and building start as soon as 01.09.2008!
http://www.byggaktuelt.no/content.asp?ContentId=75600

WOW, let`s hope they will! But seriously, I think they should move the airport so they can build more highrises :lol:

Ingenioren, thanks for posting!

Stavanger knows how to do it! We have to have a Stavanger meet-up some day in 5 years or so! Stavanger are a lot better than stupid Oslo. F*** Oslo for not approving the Logo Tower..:ohno:

Great news, and it will be really interesting to see what WTC comes up with! But did they forget to mention Bryggeriparken, or have they skipped the planns of that 110m tall tower, proposed a few hundred meters east of Føniks, which is further away from the Airport.

And yes, Oslo sucks!

IceCheese: Where have you read the Logotower is declined?

The building itself is beautiful, unlike its surroundings (now), when the new CBD gets built, I think it'll fit there perfectly :)

IceCheese: Where have you read the Logotower is declined?

I got to some archives of Oslo borough Nordre Aker. They already decided upon this September last year, just after the first articles were printed about it in Aftenposten... Read on page 11 and onwards: http://www.bydel-nordre-aker.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/bydel%20nordre%20aker%20%28BNA%29/Internett%20%28BNA%29/Dokumenter/BU-saker/protokoll%2006-09-07.doc (Bydelsutvalg 6. september)
But I have to admit I'm not a racer in knowing the power of Oslo's boroughs... Are/can they be the final deciders in matters like these? And if not, when is this case supposedly to be done?

I'm not sure. I tought it was the city council and that the neighbourhoods could make suggestions, but this got me insicure... Anyway the reasons for declining it is just stupid, Nydalen planning sucks, the area between the train station and Gullhaug torg is just a huge parking lot, but this collumn or monument (it's hardly a building) will destroy the area? It would be a great landmark;P And the most ridiculous they say it should have maximum 4 floors, all Nydalen buildings are higher than that;P Signalbuilding?

Anyway i guess it's weird we haven't heard anything if it is declined, strange that Nordre-Aker budstikke haven't futured an article with huging NIMBY's etc. as they usually do;P I was really hoping for this one, the Nydalen metro-station is an experience to pass trough and a tower with this lighting would definatly be something to show off to every visitor=)

Please, can we keep the Logo-news for the Logo- thread?

Sorry, it just never felt natural to answer in another thread;)

Latest news on this one is that SR Bank have taken over the site now (1.9.08), and construction is expected to start this month!

Hopefully this will be comfirmed very soon, but its for sure approved and not a proposal anymore! :)

But looking at the original plan they didn't expect a construction start before January 2009. Can they actually speed up developments like this that much on Forus?

What?! Construction already??? Imagine that happening anywhere else in this country!

For the third tallest building in this country!:cheers2::cheers2::cheers2:

We need some Stavanger forumers ASAP... =D

Ive seen many highrise plans for Forus. Hope they will more next to this. That will make a nice skyline..

Stavanger/Sandnes is the only exciting highrise city in Norway, except from Oslo. I have given up Bergen and Trondheim.

Ive seen many highrise plans for Forus. Hope they will more next to this. That will make a nice skyline..

With 110m tall Bryggeriparken (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=553275) and Forus Business Arena (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=553268) (Isfjellet and this one is the best proposals in Norway atm!) already proposed, and a World Trade Center (no rendreings yet) which will be the tallest of all, not to mention 3 other proposed highrises (no renderings yet, might see one of them announced before christmas) right next to Føniks its definitivly the most interesting highrise development area in Norway!

With 110m tall Bryggeriparken (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=553275) and Forus Business Arena (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=553268) (Isfjellet and this one is the best proposals in Norway atm!) already proposed, and a World Trade Center (no rendreings yet) which will be the tallest of all, not to mention 3 other proposed highrises (no renderings yet, might see one of them announced before christmas) right next to Føniks its definitivly the most interesting highrise development area in Norway!

How do you know WTC will be tallest? I thought I read somewhere it will just be 6 floors. And what are those other 3 you mention?

Good news that Føniks could be on its way though! :cheers:

How do you know WTC will be tallest? I thought I read somewhere it will just be 6 floors. And what are those other 3 you mention?

Good news that Føniks could be on its way though! :cheers:

Don't know it will be the tallest, but the developer said WTC would be taller than Føniks. He also said it would be the tallest in Norway. But thats almost a year ago now, still waiting for the real proposal.

The other three is just mentioned in a very recent article, don't know anything about them, exept that they are new proposals currently on the drawning boards. So i guess we just have to wait and see for the real deal. :)

I hope if they build a world trade center, that they try to build it real high, 200 meters would be nice :)! But the wtc in Stockholm is only 8 i think, and its not much higher in Barcelona....

Do you have any sources bròndeimr?

I hope if they build a world trade center, that they try to build it real high, 200 meters would be nice :)! But the wtc in Stockholm is only 8 i think, and its not much higher in Barcelona....

Do you have any sources bròndeimr?

Seabrokers (the developer) sais 25-26 floors tall, or "et World Trade Center på Forus som overgår SR-Banks 100 meter høye «Føniks»". This can be read in many different articles. But a 200m is out of the question sadly. Even Forus has restrictions due to the airport, so nothing above 120m will ever get approved there. :(

But we haven't really heard much more about it this year, so we have to wait some more i guess.

I think Føniks actually was given exemption from the height restriction by Avinor due to its proximity to a hill that anyway demands clearance or something like that.

^^ Yes, since the height restriction was originally just 8 floors. But i am pretty sure i've seen the "new" restriction which is like 26 floors or around 120m. So those hills should have been taller! ;)

Lets have a dugnad=) Raising those hills up a bit;D

^^That would be fun! All of N&B joining up in Stavanger to carry up rocks on that hill. It would be our first change to make a REAL difference here in Norway!:banana:

Btw, the original masterplanns from 2003 for Forus area suggests 45 floor tall buildings there. There was 83 buildings with more than 10 floors. That was a pretty big masterplan though, with a really large timespan as far as i can remember.

So who knows, if Stavanger does really good the next ten years and the whole of Norway of course, perhaps we'll see Norways first real skyscrapers at Forus?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Other/Forusskyskrapere1final.jpg

Wow, nice. That most be 150 meter or something...

Wow! That's wild, show us more please!

^^ uh, that was something i made my self just for the show! they never made any renderings exept some models of that old masterplan.

I am looking forward to when its completed.

New info!
New height: 115 meters. (Only taller building in Norway beats it with 2 meters!) Still 24 floors.
Completion june 2012.
Construction start February 2009
They are expecting one year of groundworks, since it's a marshland.
Underground parking, 13000 sqm.
Overground office space 25000 sqm.
It will not be open to the public. Café for employees and meetingrooms at the top floor and a rooftop terasse.
http://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/sandnes/930969/Bankbygg_klart_i_2012.html

http://mm.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/dynamic/00249/cci-Aft-20081017-1-_249399m.jpg

Why dont 120 metres :-/ or a long lance on the top :)

^^Norway's tallest building has to be in Oslo, of course!

^^ meh, Oslo don't deserve it! ;)

Great news about its increased height, and construction start hopefully! Was starting to get afraid for this one if the bank crisis goes worse!

^^ meh, Oslo don't deserve it! ;)

Great news about its increased height, and construction start hopefully! Was starting to get afraid for this one if the bank crisis goes worse!

You have to change some fatcs in the title now ;) 115m huh, thats what I call good news :cheers:

Well, there might have been a reason to be afraid....:ohno:

Stoppet høyhus

Brandsberg-Dahls Arkitektkontor måtte omdisponere ansatte da SR-Banks høybygg på Forus ble lagt på is

Quoted from this:
http://www.aftenbladet.no/innenriks/okonomi/948152/Arkitekter_merker_press.html

After doing some research i discovered this:
http://mm.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/pdf/pdf/STA081018_6.pdf?enkeltside

So forget about construction start in february....

Damn, that sucks! :gaah: I was really looking forward to this one. Let's hope it's not stopped for good.

Was afraid of something like this since its a bank, it sucks big time...

Hopefully times will get much better next year and they continue with this building before it gets too late and they trash the project.

I read somewhere that there are overall 27 bulding projects in Forus alone(!). And 19 of them are put on hold or they are waiting for permission to start. Stavanger Aftenbladet say that they are all going to be built(as long they politicians don`t stop them) but they will wait until the financial situation has calmed down.

^^ yeah, but if the financial crisis turnes out to last for a longer time they might change the design, location and size and so on.

financial crisis is sad...

It now has a starting date for oktober. We will see what happends... ;D
http://www.bygg.no/id/35252?pid=5

^^ Hopefully its true!

The latest activities with those construction finals from Oslo and Bryggeriparken and perhaps this one is very good news, seems like they are ignoring the financial crisis, which is great and the way to turn negative times to positive ones! Hope the world will follow!

According to the architects (http://www.bda.no/p_foniks.html) website:
Byggeår:Tidligst ferdigstillelse 2011

Seabrokers (the developer) sais 25-26 floors tall, or "et World Trade Center på Forus som overgår SR-Banks 100 meter høye «Føniks»".

I was very please to hear they came with a proposal been 34 floors tall!

But will Føniks really be 115m tall? It sais 115m on top of the construction, but in Norway we always use kote in byggesaker. So is 115m the height above sea level? The plot is 11.4m above sea level, if i am to believe that Føniks gets 103.6m tall.

In Føniks byggesak it sais they are allowed to build up to +3m taller with electrical/elevator/ventilation gear if nescessary making the building possibly 106.6m tall.

But all that might be wrong of course, and it said max. plot height +11.4 on the plan, so it might be something different at the highrise.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/FniksKart1small.jpg

According to the architects (http://www.bda.no/p_foniks.html) website:
Byggeår:Tidligst ferdigstillelse 2011

yeah, but thats been standing there for 2 years now. ;)

Kote can also mean above ground. When they use C +xx they mean sea level. I've seen both in use in Oslo...

In the Rosendal businessmagasine they said 116 ;D But then again journalists aren't that conserned about these mathers as we are... ;D

^^ Exactly, but it can be anything between 103.6m tall to 118m tall, most likely, and hopfully 115m.

And this thread need to contain the original design of Føniks, so that newbies don't have to ask so many questions all the time! :P
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Fniksgammeldesign.jpg
Original design (24fl) by Aros Arkitekter.

Wow, altough the newer design is much cooler they should have worked with the spire idea, the best looking skylines has many spires.... ;D (In La Defense they are now adding spires to existing scrapers;)

^^ lol, the design is horrible really, but spire would be nice, we don't have any highrises in Norway exept Rica Seilet and Rica Forum with real spires.

When that project came up the experts doubted that anyone could fill a building that huge, so they said most of the building would most likely stand with a big unoccpied area uppon completed. That was in 2005 which is a recent development really. Now with WTC, Forus Business Arena, Bryggeriparken etc. we see some big changes in time in just a few year!

So what we need is generally more Rica hotels;D (Narvik) I guess it's more like the old quarters in the area that sits empty while the scrapers get filled... It's great that all the Forusscrapers are along the bybaneproject, good argument for scrapers, good argument for bybane;D

If the heights are above sealevel, the podium is only allowed to 13 meters, since it's marked as 24,4 in the plan. If it's 3 floors, that sounds pretty reasonable and thus the tower is 103,6 ? Ore what?...

If the heights are above sealevel, the podium is only allowed to 13 meters, since it's marked as 24,4 in the plan. If it's 3 floors, that sounds pretty reasonable and thus the tower is 103,6 ? Ore what?...

looks more like 13m than 24.4m.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Fniks1.jpg

Norwegian Banking Giant Plans New Local HQ

Published on 04-05-2009 by Skyscrapernews.com
Approval has been given for a new high-tech tower in the oil-rich Norwegian city of Stavanger located in the new Central Business District that's planned.

Named the Foniks Tower, the scheme comes from the gooey grey matter of Brandsberg-Dahls Architects and when completed will stand at 115 metres, and increase on the 106 metres it was originally penned to be. Once completed it will be the new headquarters for SR Bank.

The tower stands on a four-pronged podium base that features roofs that slope downwards to the ground. Above this the tower which is fairly rectangular in shape, rises upwards to a slanting peak.

The tower is constructed from steel and has mostly glazed facades. The front of the tower and the roofs of the podium however are clad in what looks like aluminium wrapping up the side all the way to the peak where it features a large cut out to allow the light in. The sides of the tower feature an unusual design on the glazing that almost appear like large, asymmetrical cracks running through the glass.

The tower will house 25,000 square metres of office spaces the majority of which will be for SR-Bank with the rest being leased out to other interested parties, a formula that often works well.

It will also have 13,000 square metres of underground parking as well as a roof top terrace, café and meeting rooms, it will not be open to the general public however.

Construction on the tower was slated to begin in February 2009 but thanks to the global credit crisis that is affecting everything it has been pushed back to October 2009 with completion hopefully in 2012. This will be dependent on how quickly ground works can be completed as the tower is sited on marshland and so far ground works are estimated at taking at least 12 months.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=2102

The front of the tower and the roofs of the podium however are clad in what looks like aluminium wrapping

Yes, that's probably what it is...:nuts:


http://www.binders.no/images/5/338050_h1_5_e_01.jpg

LOTS OF IT!!:tyty:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gMA9cKynPP8/SZPpV1f_tnI/AAAAAAAADf4/EYlSpGmZRxM/s400/London+11.2.09+026.jpg


Great news, though! If only I'd heard it from SR-bank themselves...

:lol::lol::lol:

What a great idea! I`m gonne build my house with aluminium wrapping and bubblegum :cheers:

Bump!

:lol:

Regarding our last info this was to start construction this month, Landet bygges has however not surpricingly moved it's construction start to june.
http://www.bygg.no/id/35252?pid=1

I doubt June...

SR-bank to Sandnes Kommune.
utsettes på ubestemt tid
- 19.09.2009

SR-Bank is doing extremely well, record year in 2009 despite the downtimes.

Tidenes overskudd for SR-Bank
http://www.aftenbladet.no/innenriks/okonomi/1156014/Tidenes_overskudd_for_SR-Bank_.html

This project seem dead however, still hoping for better news.

Mentioned in a PDF released early february.

Noe mer spektakulære er planene til SpareBank 1 SR-Bank. Den ønsker å reise landets tredje største bygg på Forus. Som en fugl Føniks skal et 100 meter stort høyhus reise seg opp fra grunnen. Bygget skal sette et helt ny standard for kontorbygg i området. Det gjenstår å se om banken velger å gjennomføre prosjektet som planlagt eller endrer sine planer.

Today:

Føniks. SR-Bank lanserte i 2008 planer om å bygge et 24-etasjers høyhus på Stokka i Sandnes som skulle bli nytt hovedkontor. Bygget ville ha en kapasitet på 2000 ansatte, og være 115 meter høyt. Status: Disse planene er foreløpig lagt bort, mest grunnet finanskrisen.

http://www.aftenbladet.no/nytte/bo/1161481/Vis_meg_hoeyhuset_ditt_-_og_jeg_skal_si_hvor_urban_du_er.html

Bygg.no has it stipulated to start construction in june...

Yes, looks like they finally has found a construction date (http://web.tu.no/byggeprosjekter/prosjekt/23666).

Keeping my fingers crossed for Stavanger. Need some tallness competition in this country:)

It seems we are moving towards the ultimate death of this wonderful project... :cry:

The traffic-chaos of Forus makes the area less attractive, and SR-bank is considering other location near rail-infrastructure instead.

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/rogaland/nord-jaeren/1.7355070

Is this a response to APs latest 60s infrastructure policy? The whole region will suffer if light-rail isn't decided soon :bash:

One would believe our city planners one day would discover how public transport works. Public transport does not work as something you do afterwards, after an area is already fully developed, and people working there has gotten a habbit of commute. It's the same mistake they did at Fornebu, even though line 31 has helped them a bit.

PT-connection should be just as obvious when planning a new development area as connection to internet, water/sewage and road/pavement. It's common today that the municipal charge everyone developing a plot for these connections. Wouldn't it be just as logiacal to demand that the same people pay a fee to secure construction of a lightrail? Instead the county has to pay three times as much money from every tax payer to do this afterwards, making a lot of extra hassle for the people who still has to commute in the area while they're constructing, and get they're work disturbed by anleggsarbeider.

I think they should move it to Oslo :)