First Hotel Jessheim
Jessheim (Oslo Metro) - Norway

The Danish architect firm Bjarke Ingels Group (BIG) (http://www.big.dk/) togather with First Hotels (http://www.firsthotels.no/) is proposing a new hotel in the small town
of Jessheim, just north of Oslo close to the Oslo Airport, Gardermoen. The 18 000 sqm hotel building will have 400 rooms
and will become one of the biggest hotels in Norway if built. The hotel will be situated on Romsaasjordet, a field just
outside the city of Jessheim near E6 highway. If approved and built this hotel is expected to be completed by spring
2009.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/FirstHotel4.jpg

It looks like a project from Holland:
http://images.google.nl/images?hl=nl&resnum=0&q=belle%20van%20zuylen&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Ugly

a bit sad they so badly want to see their concept, albeit a very cool one, get built, but it degrades it anyway.

Looks like this one is going to be approved afterall acording to this two week old article! Some last approvals still reminds, but this is some good signals from the politicians. Developer sais they aim for construction start in the end of 2008.

Får bygge høyt hotell
Ullensaker kommune, går inn for å tillate at Host Hoteleiendom får bygge et hotell på 70 meter tett opp til stedets boligbebyggelse. Dette melder Eidsvoll Ullensaker Blad.

- Dette hadde nok vanskelig latt seg gjennomføre i mange andre kommuner, sa Asmund Haare i First Hotels, som mener den politiske ledelsen i Ullensaker er framtidsrettede og "spenstige".

Host Hotelleiendom ønsker at deres planlagte storhotell på Jessheim skal rage hele 70 meter over bakken. Det krever et unntak fra både byplanen og bebyggelsesplanen for området, samt omregulering av tomta.

- Vi er helt imot høyhus på Jessheim - særlig av slike dimensjoner. Signalbygg ja, men det er ikke synonymt med stor høyde. Dette passer ikke inn i omgivelsene, verken eksisterende bebyggelse eller landskapet rundt. Dessuten avgir den vedtatte reguleringsplanen et løfte til alle beboerne i området; om at så høye bygg ikke skal bygges. Det gir et veldig feil signal om vi plutselig skulle godta et bygg som dette, uttalte Ola Nafstad (Ap) under den politiske behandlingen av saken.

- Ja, dette er naturligvis veldig positivt for oss. Men jeg vil også få gratulere beboerne på Jessheim med et bygg som for alvor vil bidra til å sette tettstedet på kartet. Dette blir et fantastisk hotell. En arkitektonisk perle, som vil fungere som et landemerke også fra lufta. Det fortjener en slik beliggenhet som dette, ved Jessheims inngangsport fra sør, sa Asmund Haare, administrerende direktør for First.

- Bare de resterende godkjenninger blir gitt skal vi starte byggingen så snart som mulig. Dette kan nok ta litt tid, men om alt går etter planen kan det bli byggestart innen et år, fortalte en begeistret junior vice president for Host Hotelleiendom; Sara Bjarnason til Eidsvoll Ullensaker Blad.

In todays DN, Haare says that this Hotel probably will be finished in 30 months, 2010/2011. There will be 600 rooms according to Haare and DN

A fresher rendering of the hotel:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/FirstHotel4.jpg

:cheers:

Spectacular design! Let's hope it get built!

According to this article from november, it is more or less approved.
http://www.eub.no/artikkel.asp?Artid=168605 Jessheim is on a plaine, and has no tall buildings, not even a church tower, and about 15 000 inhabitants.

Wow, that is very different from what First Hotels normally has. Very cool!

NCC wants to claim reemboursement, since they payed for a road. They feel their neighbouring plot is worthless if the hotel gets built:
http://www.rb.no/lokale_nyheter/article3702757.ece
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.rb.no/m/02067/1217969405131_20080805-224712-pi_2067221m.jpg
The light-green area is where NCC had planned appartments.

What?! The hotel is going to be THIS close to it's neighbors?! Half of the concept of a signal-building like this is that it has some space around it. Too me, this ruins most of my previous likings about this project.

oh look at that NCC planning, sons of bitches, really, i hate them to the bone.

Have to agree on the location, it really do suck, though the hotel design is fantastic. Keep the design, but move it.

What?! The hotel is going to be THIS close to it's neighbors?! Half of the concept of a signal-building like this is that it has some space around it. Too me, this ruins most of my previous likings about this project.

Admit it, you are a nimby and feel threatened by the highrise ;-)

A fresher rendering of the hotel:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/FirstHotel4.jpg

:cheers:

What is the structure? Is it glass? Or plastic even? The structure reminds a bit of how they've done the olympic swimming arena in Beijing.

This is the primary location of the hotell and you can see the plot owned by First hotels. As one can see, the move of this hotel isn't very significant. The area was to dense from the start. It seems as they've also turned the hotel 90 degrees so it won't face the E6, which I find a bit wierd.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Untitled-2.jpg

"Hello there, neighbor!"
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Untitled-1-7.jpg

Can we expect construction start sometime during 2009? Landet bygges thinks so:
http://www.bygg.no/id/35252?pid=5

I don't know how the handling of the protests is going, but I will keep my fingers crossed. I still liked the old location/orientation better, but I guess the square-heads of Statens Vegvesen never will let that get built...

Ikke hotellskremt

JESSHEIM:

Hotellkjeden Host er ikke skremt av labert hotellmarked og bygging av mange nye rom rundt Gardermoen, men står fast på planene om å bygge hotell i skyskraperhøyde på Jessheim.
Av Nina Skyrud
Publisert 04.03.2009 - 23:00 Oppdatert 05.03.2009 - 20:26


Den Flyvende Elefant AS – hotellselskapet som eies av familien Haare – frykter ikke overetablering.

– Vi har et spektakulært bygg, som ligger i Jessheim sentrum og kan tilby våre gjester det Jessheim har å tilby. Det blir hotellets fortrinn for folk som ikke har høydeskrekk og som liker å se ut over det vakre landskapet, sier Gisle Tangenes, teknisk direktør i Host Hotelleiendom AS.

Justerte planer

For et par uker siden ble justerte planer sendt Ullensaker kommune. Justeringene består i at hotellet er trukket ut av miljøsonen som veivesenet krever langs E6, for å sikre utvidelsesmuligheter for motorveien en gang i framtida.

– Bortsett fra det, er høyden og de foreløpige planene de samme, sier Tangenes.

Forslaget til reguleringsplan ligger nå i kommunen og venter på endelig behandling. Tangenes håper det kan skje før sommerferien.

– I så fall går vi i gang med detaljprosjektering. Men det blir nok 2010 før spaden kan settes i jorda, sier han.

Inntil klarsignal fra myndighetene er gitt, er det ikke brukt tid på detaljerte tegninger eller på å skaffe finansiering. Det meste av hotellet må finansieres med lån.

Tangenes vil ikke anslå hvor mye det spektakulære bygget vil koste, men Romerikes Blad skrev i 2006 at det dreier seg om en investering på 400-500 millioner kroner.

Hotellet er planlagt å bli på 25.000 kvadratmeter. Dette er like mye som gjeldende reguleringsplan tillater.

– Ved å bygge de samme kvadratmeterne i høyden, blir det større parkområder rundt hotellet, men trafikkbelastningen blir for eksempel den samme, sier Tangenes.
Mange protester

Beboerne på Romsaas har protestert mot høyden på hotellet. Det samme har NCC som eier nabotomta hvor det etter deres planer skal bygges flere boligblokker.

NCC har utbyggingsavtale med kommunen. Sier politikerne ja til skyskraperhotellet, må avtalen reforhandles, mener NCCs advokat.

Boligutbyggeren har betalt for veier, fortau, gangeveier, gatelys, beplantning, hellelegging, vann og avløp for rundt 50 millioner kroner. Forutsetningen for dette var at utbyggingsselskapet fikk bygge ut slik de hadde tenkt i tråd med gjeldende reguleringsplan. Dialog mellom NCC og Host med tanke på makeskifte har ikke ført fram, ifølge Tangenes.


http://www.rb.no/lokale_nyheter/article4172861.ece

Basicly the case is still being worked on, they are hoping for an approval before the summer and construction start in 2010. And NCC is still pist off - so i wouldn't get my hopes up too high for this one. Jessheim could do better and on a more central location anyway imo. I'm glad finally some hotel-builders see Jessheim and not just Gardermoen Park (It's just as far from the airport - so what's the difference). At the rate Jessheim is growing it's time they start thinking about expanding the "inner-city" east of the Thons centre a bit.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/SSC%20tegninger/HyhusJessheim.jpg

A map where Jessheim sentrum is green and new dense but suburban quarters in yellow and red is the area with the most potential.

They should have built almost all the Gardermoen hotels in Jessheim, would make the city look great and with lots of activity all year around.

Hopefully they are getting this one built, if not, move it to Forus in Stavanger and add 30m!

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/SSC%20tegninger/gardermoenhoteller.jpg

And most of the hotels are eitherway just a bit to far away from Gardermoen, so they could easily be placed in Jessheim without inconvenience for the guests.

3. A few upscale hotels. Walking distance.
2,4. Many hotels. 5-10 minutes shuttle-bus distance.
5. First hotel, 10 mintes shuttle-bus distance.
6. Also 10 minutes shuttle-bus distance. No hotels in Jessheim proper.

Jessheim has 14 000 inhabitants, and is a commercial and cultural centre for the region and has much more to offer for eventual hotel-guests than the fields at Gardermoen Park.

^^ putting the hotels west of Gardermoen is kinds ridicilous, have been a night at one of the hotels, driving there is a bit of a detour really. Too bad its a bit late now though.

Lets hope for some nice developments next to First Hotel, and they hopefully suit the hotel good! Blue plots are where future development are most imminent.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Untitled-2copy3copysmall.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/Untitled-2copy3copysmall.jpg

That's the old location, isn't it? Before they turned it and withdrew it a bit more from the E6.

They had to move it because Statens vegvesen wanted the oppurtunity the make an extra lane on E6, that's much more longterm thinking than i expected from them! When would that happend? 2100?

With the current traffic growth in Gardermoen and population growth in Ullensaker, I wouldn't believe it's that far ahead... I also find the 100 m safety-zones around our highways to be generous, to say the least.

Jessheim actually has long jams during the worst hours to the east on Rv178 - the endless sprawl road, but no problem on this piece of E6, Rv35 to the airport seems to hardly have any cars at all!

One would think 5 meters for an extra lane + 20 meters for dirtwall would be maximum needed. 100 meters seems a bit odd!

If i where in the council i wouldn't dare to approve this tower with a following law-suite from NCC....

100 meters seems a bit odd!

Sorry, my bad! It's actually 150 m. I remembered wrong. This was what SV wrote in the municipal plan process in Ås.
Statens vegvesen fremmer innsigelse på følgende arealer:
• Boligområde B3, Brønnerudteigen, dersom den delen av byggeområdet som ligger nærmere E6 enn 150 m og/eller innenfor rød støysone ikke tas ut av arealdelen.

Of course this 150 m zone doesn't apply backwards. I'm also a bit unsure of how dirt walls work, and if there are different classes of high-ways.

Aha! So it is because of the sound from the motorway, perhaps!

huh, what? So they have moved the hotel from the location in my map? Why is there brand new buildings closer E6 300m north of the hotel?

http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.rb.no/m/02067/1217969405131_20080805-224712-pi_2067221m.jpg

Check out this render, and you see the new location. I don't know if it is because of places where people sleep, like houses and hotels, they have the law.

It really looks like a crossing of a brown-cheese and a squid, not a huge loss if we don't see this one built...

Here's one of many examples of homes closer to E6 - same road standard 100km/h, this is Skedsmokorset, who would actually need an extra lane during rush-hour. The homes are atleast not older than mid 90s.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/SSC%20tegninger/e6hus.jpg

@ Icecheese: The model image there is the exact same location as in my map. ;)

It really looks like a crossing of a brown-cheese and a squid, not a huge loss if we don't see this one built...

The design looks really good in the renderings, models ain't the thing to look at really. The only thing i don't like here is that is situated right smack in the middel of a townish residential-area. It doesn't fit there at all.

As I've been trying to say multiple times, this time YOU'RE the one who's wrong! I have now taken the liberation to update your map with my suckish PhotoShop-skills. This will be the location/orientation of First Hotel Jessheim:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/untitled.jpg


And to Ingenioren, as I've said I'm a bit unsure if there are different classes of highways, as the one in your example clearly is narrower than a full-scale highway, though it has the same speed-limit. There may also be something about walls/dirtwalls. And you also have to remember that a regulation plan is made far earlier than the houses get built.

^^ i surrender, i was wrong! :P Thought you claimed they have moved it much further, but they have really just turned the building around a bit, guess i have to update it, but with a bit better photoshop than yours! :tongue:

I guess they have cut the low-rise part on the E6 side a bit too. But lets hope it isn't completely dead just yet.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/untitled.jpg

Plans have been released for the most northern plot:

http://www.eub.no/nyheter/article4200231.ece

http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.eub.no/m/02484/1237286911000_romsaas_inni_2484031m.jpg

A new shoppingcenter? :ohno:

2 more recent articles where Eub questions the chances of this proposal:

http://www.eub.no/nyheter/article4236172.ece
http://www.eub.no/nyheter/article4236182.ece

It seems like a "council of architecture" is not being fooled by the promises of a spectacular building, they see a classic brown cheese with a fancy podium, totally agree;D
Interesting that Frp is against building, probably afraid of the Ncc treats;P

This can't be right tough, can it? Who made this mock-up? Jessheim byes vel?
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.eub.no/m/02511/1238578009000_H_yhotell_4_2511649m.jpg

What? I thought Frp was all about letting the market rule etc., not about letting some "Arkitekturråd" deciding all important stuff... But if they're so against the design, just make a new taller and much more spectatcular one!:D

But NCC loosing 50-90 mio?! That's crazy talk. Someone in the municipal board that got some friendships they need to be nursing?

This was voted down! So if a hotel is to be built, it will have to keep the 5-floor height limit...
http://www.eub.no/nyheter/article4386324.ece

Not very surpricing, never loved the design nor location anyway so i won't be to sad for this one :P

Mhm, me neither. Was never a fan of this one.

:badnews:

The politicians in Akershus soon need to learn that land is scarce, and that we have to get used to a denser way of living. This building wasn't to anyones harm. 5 floors is a tragedy. The developer should sue the municipal (as I suspect them to do).

i thought the design was badass!

id love to see it as a highrise in either Bergen or Oslo.. with 30+ floors!!

The developer should sue the municipal (as I suspect them to do).

On what grounds? I can't see any legal mistakes here, they file for a disp. from regulations, then it's up to Ullensaker to say yes or no...

What i REALLY can't understand here is the argumentation in the Editors Article at RB:
http://www.rb.no/meninger/ledere/article4388251.ece
WTF? I hope this incompetent guy/chick gets fired asap.
Why do they want all of Romerike to be ultra-boring and nothing to stick out, i have lived in Jessheim and i know very well that there is NO churchspire there or any other building remotly close to competing with the massive mall:P Maybe in this particular case you wouldn't want any building to be taller than the allmighty mall that is gradualy become Jessheims only identity aswell as endless sprawl alongside Rv178? The landscape is completly flat and uneventfull, Jessheim has nothing working for it that would attract anyone but shopping and suburban living (definatly the least cozy town sentrum in Norway of it's size), might aswell turn it into a mini-manhattan i say to attract some highrise spotters too? =)

Somehow he/she also believe in a domino-effect, where it's impossible to turn down other proposals if one highrise would be built in Romerike - what? More trafic if highrise is built? Well, in this case it would be the same density, ergo NO MORE TRAFIC :bash::bash: Read the goddamn plan before you start getting opinions... Anyway these are argumentations to why build dense in sentrum areas, like around Jessheim station, certainly no reason why there should not be built tall in near-sentrum locations. More a push towards developing the station- area before E6, wich i think they should (With some real density). Btw. anyone been to Jessheim in rushhour can definatly say that the politics there now doesn't work, lanes are kilometers long on Rv178 (The road with all the sprawl).

I wonder why there is no "comment this" under there....

That was one incoherent and poorly argumented editorial. This person doesn't know shit.

"(...)Kritikerne mener slike himmelstormere vil bli et fremmedelement på flatbygdene hvor vi tradisjonelt har hatt god plass."

"(...)Det ligger rotfestet at ingen bygg skal overstige kirkespiret. Rent symbolsk er det en god tanke at Guds hus forbeholder seg retten til å være nærmest himmelen. I vårt distrikt er det vel bare Lørenskog som har gitt blaffen i dette prinsippet."

These two quotes sums it all up for me. What a retard.

^ Especially considering the lack of Church-spires in Jessheim :) I could disagree, but still respect the point of view if there was one. If something good can come out of the newspaper crisis, it would be the immediate ending of this persons career.

"Rent symbolsk er det en god tanke at Guds hus forbeholder seg retten til å være nærmest himmelen. "

Fuuuuck, fuck, fuck! I would not be standing face to face with him when he said that, i would end up in jail! :P

Too bad it was rejected, since the building looks nice! Hope they move the design to Forus!

Too bad it was rejected, since the building looks nice! Hope they move the design to Forus!

Yeah.. but to bold for a dimwitted town such as Jessheim apparently:bash:

I didn't know it was supposed to change colours from where you were standing, i may have rushed my judgement of how boring this buildings concept was...