Visma Bygget
Visma Bygget is a part of the OperaKvarteret (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=774674) highrise clauster

Visma (http://visma.no/index.asp), a Norwegian founded consulting business, has acquired this second building in the Barcode development for relocation of their Oslo head-
quarters. The 67m tall building is structured as three ‘towers’, connected internally by large, three-story atriums. The towers vary in heights and
provide for a semi-sheltered roof terrace on top of the middle tower. The building is located in the center of this new development, along a new
major street and adjacent to a pedestrian route connecting the areas behind the train lines, by a bridge, with the waterfront and former harbor
area.

This unique location, in a new dense development, anchors the building at ground level with large public spaces and creates a landmark with its 17
stories. It will attract both future employees and clients, encouraging a dynamic working environment and culture, enabling Visma to deliver top
services to their clients. The building is designed by Dark Arkitekter AS (http://www.darkarkitekter.no/).

More on Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/798-visma-bygget)
High resolution renderings (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=73256229#post73256229)

http://i.imgur.com/QXTvg.jpg
Illustration by Placebo Effects (http://pfx.no/)

http://i.imgur.com/9gpG4.jpg
Illustration by Placebo Effects (http://pfx.no/)

http://i.imgur.com/J8bur.jpg
Illustration by Placebo Effects (http://pfx.no/)

http://i.imgur.com/hHswe.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Ukfd2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hHswe.jpgIllustration by Placebo Effects (http://pfx.no/)

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http://i.imgur.com/hHswe.jpgIllustration by Placebo Effects (http://pfx.no/)

I would like to take this opportunity as second poster to ask the court to please note that I hate nimbys.

I would like to take this opportunity as second poster to ask the court to please note that I hate nimbys.

I am with you on that one! :cheers:

This thread certainly needs a revival!!! It has been dead FAR to long!
Main news is that this building is up and coming (U/C!!!!)(as far as I know)

These are the freshest renders:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Visma.jpg

http://osu.no/fileadmin/templates/main/images/main_visma.jpg

^^
This building looks better now with the new renderings, didn't like it at all before but now I really like it! Isfjellet became worse but this one has improved due to the new renderings!

Finally some better renderings. Looks good though, nice and a different facade from the rest! :)

:omg:

Magnificent!

But isn't there a contradiciton between the two renderings. The facade looks a little different. I love them both anyway

:omg:

Magnificent!

But isn't there a contradiciton between the two renderings. The facade looks a little different. I love them both anyway

The first one is a much older rendering, so the second one is more correct. :)

So it's UC again?

Good news!

Not U/C quite yet, but approved and a lease for the office space found(even though Visma won't use it for themselves), so any day now. Hopefully...

So if this is not U/C, what is? I guess we either way will get an answer on Sunday...

Visma was never U/C. The process was stopped before any construction had begun. They have been working on that hole for quite some time. But that hole will be underground parking and technical space for alle the buildings around there as far as I understand.

Does a crane make this U/C? I don`t think so. The crane could be there for many reasons. The new render looks good though!

So if this is not U/C, what is? I guess we either way will get an answer on Sunday...

I hope they can publish a lot of renderings and information in big fat PDF's of everything on tomorrows meeting, since i would love to see everything they got, though not sure its worth the 16 hours of driving to be there!

I hope they can publish a lot of renderings and information in big fat PDF's of everything on tomorrows meeting, since i would love to see everything they got, though not sure its worth the 16 hours of driving to be there!

Sure it is:D

16 hours of driving is worth 16 hours of driving=)) If only i had some money for petrol... =D

Here are some blueprints of the building and surroundings. I'm sorry about the poor quality of the photos, but I had to photograph and then shrink printouts I took at the Oslo planning department.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Visma01liten.jpg
Ground floor. (from left to right: PWC, KLP, Isfjellet and Visma)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Visma02liten.jpg
Floor plans for all 17 floors

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Visma03liten.jpg
Elevation of the Dronning Eufemias gate facade

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Visma04liten.jpg
Railtrack side elevation

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Visma05liten.jpg
Facade

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Visma06liten.jpg
Side elevation

^^ nice work! They should have those blueprints avaliable on PDF and publish them on their homepage, since everybody is supose to have the right to study them! Old fashion to have everythig on paper.

They are electronically avaliable for everybody who's interested at the customer center at Plan- og Bygningsetaten. But you have to go there during opening hours:p

Architects and developers aren't too keen on publish drawing while they are under scrutiny from planning authorities it might seem...

:rofl:
That building is looking really good!

Is Visma going to be built soon? Anyone know when they will start on it?

very soon, I think. Pretty sure that 1st quarter of '09 has been mentioned.

Quite nice, but would be cooler with only one tower; BAM 201 m - the highest skysraper in Scandinavia.

New renders from Placebo effects, http://www.pfx.no/ Also shows the old Breadslice in the same shape as the Barcode model:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/visma.jpg

^^ Nice. Btw, construction start is as IceCheese said imminent. Construction will start in January 2009.

Wow, fabulous buildings!

The entire Barcode project is just spectacular, and I'm surprised that it's so ignored by everyone.. It might be envy and that it's norwegian. :/

^^ You should come see it when it's finished.

The third barcode is U/C!:banana: (I will take my reservations, though, as I haven't confirmed that this is Visma completely yet)

Concrete constructions in the underground floor:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/15012009724.jpg

Visma has got it's own crane, named in the same way as the other cranes in the area:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/15012009725.jpg

Great news! We should ask OSU which cranes are assigned to the Visma-building and which to the pedestrian bridge so we know for sure.

Yeah, they initially told us that crane no. 4 was for the bridge (and thereby also the latter no. 5), but I'm missing some pieces of the puzzle (why Visma then would be west of the bridge, for example:nuts:)

I hope this is correct. When Visma start to rise its almost like Barcode/Bjørvika takes off, and we can finally see in the horison the future blue sky that the Bjørvika skyline one day will be in our souls...:tongue2:

:lol::lol::lol:

There is no way Visma is U/C west of the bridge, they are maybe simply finishing the garage under Snøhetta building? Seems to make sense to build it continously even tough the building on top comes later...

Related: The archeologists will be finished with their excavations in february/march, and then the work on DnB-Nor plot can also resume. Osu is discussing with the excavators a possibility to add a permanent boat-exhibit in Barcode.

There is no way Visma is U/C west of the bridge, they are maybe simply finishing the garage under Snøhetta building? Seems to make sense to build it continously even tough the building on top comes later...

I see this argument, but it seems very weird that they would put up a crane tall enough for a high-rise, and then let it stand there unused for a whole year++. But I don't know. The distance to KLP also made it look like there was room for a bar between the debated plot and KLP. Maybe the people we talked to last fall were wrong?:dunno:

I think the space between the plot and KLP is where the Snøhetta building will come. And the construction you photographed and the tall cranes is for the bridge. I think Visma is just in the start phase - maybe east of your photoed plot?

I think the space between the plot and KLP is where the Snøhetta building will come. And the construction you photographed and the tall cranes is for the bridge. I think Visma is just in the start phase - maybe east of your photoed plot?

That's where the two other cranes are:) (I'm not saying that this is an easy one)

Jesus, how hard can this be. Do I have to go down there and ask the bloody workers what they`re building???

I think so. I tried to ask some polish workers on Tjuvholmen about that but they had no idea.

I think so. I tried to ask some polish workers on Tjuvholmen about that but they had no idea.

:lol:

OSU has probably forgot the original order too...

Well, i have one theory to answer that aswell, but really just speculation.

Maybe this crane has to be so high for when the work procedes they will start delivering materials from the other side of Opera-almenningen, and acces route to the right of your picture is closed

Anyhow this is in any case not Visma plot, they wouldn't swap the locations, the plot has different dimmensions. So one may say that Snøhetta is U/C, if anything. This is not Visma related...

I have also concluded that this is not Visma, though Visma probably is so close, that it well as might be uc anyways. Even though, I will not stop being puzzled by why they would need a crane of that magnitude already.

I originally posted the post before confirming with the renders, and I really didn't believe OSU had changed orders. Though it's clear that the barcodes will quite a wide room between them.

From today:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20mars%2009/DSC_1805.jpg

^^So it's official, as you stated in another thread, that this has been postponed? Do you have any links?

http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=200812135

No approval yet.

Hmmm... Seems as everything is as usual: Statens Vegvesen is interferring in stuff that is FAR out of their jurisdiction IMO. Is Dronning Eufemias gate a national road?

It's probably part of Rv4... Wich imo. should end at Sinsenkrysset temporarily anyway (It's planned to be moved from Trondheimsveien to Østre Aker vei in O3 and from Økern in a new tunnel to downtown) Temporarily Strømsveien(Rv190) could go as Rv4 imo. as this is a much better route for trafic Bjørvika - Nittedal. Now with Bjørvika and Carl - Berners plass being much less car friendly places... And Ring 1 is also a national road (Rv162)

Here's a map with national roads in red:

http://www.bjorvikautvikling.no/stream_file.asp?iEntityId=352
http://www.bjorvikautvikling.no/modules/module_123/proxy.asp?D=2&C=18&I=14&mids=a8a

I can't open the link from my mobile device, but eitherway I thought Østre tangent would serve as Rv4, thereby moving the road north of the tracks. The existing road will eitherway have to be teared down to make way for the future lowering of it. (which really would be the perfect occasion to build the new bus-terminal above the rail-tracks as planned)

Nah, they are not going to tear down the bridge over the tracks... And since it still serve as an acces to Oslo east from the underground intersection next to Børsen, Deg is national in its full length.

I can't see how they're not going to tear it down for it's lowering. Alternative: cut the columns bearing it, dropping it, and hope it doesn't crack up?:nuts: But you're the engineer...

The future of Rv4, which really should be a local road:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/BarcodeA1.jpg

You can imagine that if they wanted a new bridge, it would be a more creative one, than the plain in that render.

No problem to shrink it, you just put up temporary support. It will be a steep climb tough, not like the one in the drawing i guess, if they don't want to stop the trains to much.

2 lanes on the bridge will be buslanes, and finally someone might use the sidewalk that only takes you to a dead-end at bispelokket atm. ;D

Another update, activity level is rising:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/holmenkollentur/DSC_1654.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/visma.jpg
Oslo is progressing really fast with projects like these. If they had shops n resturaunts at the bottom they could probably make this part a reallt thriving area in Oslo. But i guess this will primarily be a office area right?

The whole area requires commericial activity on the bottom floors in the fjordbyplan as it's envisioned to be extend Oslo centre to the waterfront.

There will be around 10.000 sqm of retail space in Operakvarteret alone, and an interior passage through most of the buildings.

What are they doing down there...

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde112.jpg

Building the foundations... ;D Juhuu! Tread title -> U/C ! ASAP.

There will be around 10.000 sqm of retail space in Operakvarteret alone, and an interior passage through most of the buildings.

Not all of them?

Edit: I see now in the old OSU Newsletter it says half of the buildings will be connected by a 2 floor tall glass-passageway. To bad it's not included in the renders for us to see...

^^Aren't we still in the parking lot basement?

Yeah for now we are...

Wow. Visma finally u/c? This truly is a cause for celebration :cheers: Is this confirmed by the way? The not-so-updated pages of osu.no doesn`t really say anything.

Wow. Visma finally u/c? This truly is a cause for celebration :cheers: Is this confirmed by the way? The not-so-updated pages of osu.no doesn`t really say anything.

As the basement work is no indication on whether the building is U/C or not, I wouldn't raise my glass quite yet. But the lease agreement with Visma is still valid (as far as I know) so construction above ground shouldn't be to far away...

Osu is dealing with all smaller contracts, so it's not easy to know, i'm just glad to see it hitting the next level, and i believe it will be built continously like they did with Klp...

What about Isfjellet? Are they doing the same basement work there yet? Haven't been down there for a while...

^ They are smacking piles, just like last month... ;)

Visma:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0435.jpg

^^Still not done with the parking garage thingy...

My God, sooo slooow :rant:

I had another look down the hole today. I'm not an expert, but it looks very U/C too me.

Ofcourse it is ;) I'm guessing it will be rising a couple of floors by the end of the summer.

It will be kind of a weird hole in Barcode without Isfjellet. And then when the hole gets filled up, people will protest on it:ohno::)

And another hole between DnB and Visma...:ohno:

^^Well it's OSU's own fault for STILL not having started selling appartments in Operakvarteret. Why are they postponing it so much?

Maybe they are checking out the demand, if you all register here, it could speed up:
http://www.operakvarteret.no/

Yeah, but the site's been like that for almost a year now...

On the rise :banana:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Hole/DSC_0030.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Hole/DSC_0031.jpg

It just have to reach ground level first:lol:

Wonder what Visma will do to fill it up..

Rent it out for free to Yimby Norge?;)

On the rise :banana:

:applause: Sweet :)

Rent it out for free to Yimby Norge?;)

The top floor would be great for a start:lol:

Visma building today with our beloved working bees:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_0029.jpg

There is a damn tall tower crane there now (80 meters tall?) :D
http://osu.no/operakvarteret/now.jpg

There's also a large mobile-crane down by (Oslo S?) that i wonder if anyone knows what it is doing.

I wonder if it has the number "7" on it...

Here are the cranes viewed from Sinsen roof:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/kraner.jpg

I am very curious to what they would need such a monster crane for by Oslo S!

I am very curious to what they would need such a monster crane for by Oslo S!

Perhaps they are building a Oslo S skyscraper we have never heard about, 100m tall?! :eek:

I guess there are some safety-margin so the don't have the cranes crashing into eachother. There are quite a few cranes now...

Wierd. I was down there today, and can't remember seeing any crane there.

It just have to reach ground level first:lol:



Rising above ground level ;)

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde223.jpg

04.07.09

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde227.jpg

I checked out Visma today; and they are now done with level -2, -1 is coming along nicely so i dont think there will be very long before we see groundwork on floor numero uno.

Alongside Klp i'm afraid to say that Snøhettas project seems to be going quite slowly. They are still doing groundwork on level -2, and very little has happened there all in all. There are several weeks, maybe months before even ground level is up and running with the tempo thats going.

Dnb Nor seems to be starting up some serious work very soon though. A huge crane is in place and they have also starting deep groundwork on what seems to be the building farthest east. Will problably see a lot happening there quite soon im guessing.

Looking forward to it. Sorry i dont have camera. but descriptive story will have to do today.

I can imagine they only need Snøhettas below ground to be ready during the next year, so they are not in a hurry...

I can imagine they only need Snøhettas below ground to be ready during the next year, so they are not in a hurry...

Yeah. As long as they have yet to find tenants, there's no need to hurry the construction.

26.07


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde339.jpg



http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde341.jpg

thanx muster. great pictures..

Isn't it time to change the title from App to U/C?

thanx muster. great pictures..

Thanks ;)


01.08.09

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde348.jpg

This one is starting to rise pretty fast.

Holly crap that is good stuff!! :) ThaNks muster<3

07.08.09

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P8071296.jpg?t=1249679656

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P8071298.jpg?t=1249679713

16.08

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde366.jpg

19/08, No 9-5 job here, still many workers at 20:00:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/Etter%20sommeren/DSC_0262.jpg

Saw on saturday that the 4 pilars for the bridge is on place. (saw it from ekebergrestauranten). saw also that a long part of the planned bridge is lying down where they are building dnb and also the planned apartment complex right next to it. Looked also at Sørenga that two more parts for the bridge was lying there on the tip all way out front. Coming along greatly the bridge in other words.

Cant wait to see progress from Visma and DnB in the coming weeks, months and years to come.

30.08.09

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P8301322.jpg

10/9-09:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0467.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0469.jpg

23/09-09:)
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/22sept09/DSC_0537.jpg

26.09.09

No big changes:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P9261322.jpg?t=1253986685

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P9261324.jpg?t=1253986740

great project!! when is the whole barcode thingy supposed to be finished? 2012? and can anyone link me to anything that depicts and explains this hanging bridge thing? it seems quite intimidating but hopefully will look cool
thnx

great project!! when is the whole barcode thingy supposed to be finished? 2012? and can anyone link me to anything that depicts and explains this hanging bridge thing? it seems quite intimidating but hopefully will look cool
thnx

Hopefully all the buildings will be done by 2016.

Here are 2 presentations from the bridgeproject:
http://www.stalforbund.com/Staldag2008/RunarSorensen.pdf
http://www.stalforbund.com/Staldag2008/RunarSorensen_tekst.pdf

i thought the rails were going to be put underground, anyway?

what is the point of building this bridge, then?

i thought the rails were going to be put underground, anyway?


That depends... Not going to happen in many years anyway since they have to make a new railroadtunnel first after what Ive understand.

They have started mounting steel pillars on this building now :)

They have started mounting steel pillars on this building now :)

Best news in a long time (OK, Logo tower was also great news :)) :cheers:

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/visma.jpg

i thought the rails were going to be put underground, anyway?

what is the point of building this bridge, then?

Because this will in best case happen in 30-40 years - and then it's rather stupid waiting for this.. ;)

Some photos of the new situation, from today (04.10.09):

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/PA041344.jpg?t=1254692403

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/PA041345.jpg?t=1254692451

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/PA041353.jpg?t=1254692553

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/PA041349.jpg?t=1254692597

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/PA041356.jpg?t=1254692526

Go Barcode!!! Hope the selling of appartments in KLP is going well, so there won't be another blank spot between Visma and DnBNOR.

Sweet:) This thing is going to be huuge:

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/visma04.jpg?t=1254726382

Doh! Where did our view go? :nuts:

Doh! Where did our view go? :nuts:

It's just being upgraded;)

The barcode is just the definition of awesome, it just shoots forward!:banana:

Visma at 3 floors this morning, 27/10-09:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/2710/DSC_0705.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/2710/DSC_0711.jpg

With a little imagination one can visualize it in the skyline here:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/2710/DSC_0718.jpg

^^ awesome, its rising fast! :)

^ Indeed, and now they have raised the collumns for the next 3 floors :banana: Hope they Keep this pace up with 3 new floors every 4 weeks, we will have T/O in the beginning of spring!

Yeah, they really picked up the tempo. It was pretty slow progress there until the last months.

I had to go back to the fist page to see what Visma was and it is a stunner!

Hehe... Oslo Plaza is white... it actually looks sorta cool, wish it had that colour.:lol:

^ Indeed, and now they have raised the collumns for the next 3 floors :banana: Hope they Keep this pace up with 3 new floors every 4 weeks, we will have T/O in the beginning of spring!

4 floors now!

I hope/guess it will be T/O in January/February. :cheers:

17/11-09:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0731.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0737.jpg

Stasjonsalmenningen:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0743.jpg

Sørenga:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0745.jpg

Kongshavn:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0747.jpg

Operabridge:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0749.jpg

17/11-09:
Operabridge:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0749.jpg

those up-ramps do look horrific - just trying to imagine trees and new trams!

as of 21/11/09 - up to 6 floors!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/023.jpg

in this one you can see the starps that (i assume) they will be sending out the bridge deck on...

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/024.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/029.jpg

i was coming past on the ikea bus today and glimpsed that they have the next set of uprights in place now.... looked like two more floors coming this weekend

^^Actually has since Thursday, more or less. May we hope for it being topped out already in January?:)

^^ January are probably too soon, but maybe the second week in february? It seems they are adding one floor pr week, and with the last floors being smaller it should be in reach.

With Visma and DNB topped out in 2010 the Barcode will start to take shape. The other projects will be more like innfill in the coming years.

Yeah, it's anyones guess wich building will be the next one now :cheers:

DnB C? Mad? Or the wildcard Snøhetta? :)

^^I'm guessing MAD, if sales at KLP keeps up....


edit: A quick raincheck at operakvarteret.no shows that 25 out of 53 appartments has been sold.

4/12-09: Visma (9fl) & Dnb view from The Kings road.
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_0790.jpg

The angle is quite wrong, but it gives an idea how this might look:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/visma.jpg

Cool. I hope it will have this black and blue facade, not the brown one..

Brown?

Brown?

Looks brown to me..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/VismaBygget5small.jpg

^^No, that's actually that big bright circle-thingy in the sky. You may've noticed it in summer, but it's not as easy to spot these days...

oh, you mean the big yellow donut? I hope you are right!

If you look close though, you will see it is two different facades, and it looks awfully brown even with the effect from the round thingy..

oh, you mean the big yellow donut? I hope you are right!

If you look close though, you will see it is two different facades, and it looks awfully brown even with the effect from the round thingy..

:nuts: You're questioning the representation of the sun in the program used to create the model?

Eitherway... We all know it is black. Just a quick search around this thread gives answers, as usually:

Evidence no. 1:
New renders from Placebo effects, http://www.pfx.no/ Also shows the old Breadslice in the same shape as the Barcode model:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/visma.jpg

Evidence no. 2:

Hovedfasaden foreslås utført som prefabrikkerte elementer med aluminumsprofiler inndelt med mattlakkerte svarte tette aluminiumsplater sammen med vindusglass. Klemlister er splittet, kappet og gjæret slik at hvert enkelt vindusglass og tette felt blir innrammet og fremstår som et "piksel". Fasadeplater og glass ligger i samme liv med dekklister som bygger ca. 10mm ut fra fasadelivet.

Source: PBE (http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2270568)

:nuts: You're questioning the representation of the sun in the program used to create the model?


Eeh.. no, I was qustioning which colour they where working on when they did that old render. Its not like everything that is black turns brown if you add sun. But why make a big deal out of this, right?

If black is the final colour, I'm all happy ;)

^^I don't, I only thought that is was pretty clear that it will be black... Just like all the other bars. (seems they'll be black-white-black-white-black-white in their order...)

Some new images for the new year,

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3520.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3521.jpg

Looks a bit tight for the snøhetta building to squeeze in here

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3533.jpg

Another one who is not scared of the cold weather, here i was hoping to get the first updates of this decade :) -Warning overload of images :lol:

Here's a few more dating 7/1-10:

Kings road - there something very harmonic about this skyline with Visma at 12 floors, tough i will be glad to see it rise taller:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0796.jpg

Loenga:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0798.jpg


Sørenga:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0800.jpg

Trelast street east:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0807.jpg

East facade:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0809.jpg

Closeup on the diagonals:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0811.jpg

North facade is not perpendicular as plots are longer in the middle of the barcode area:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0813.jpg

West facade with Stasjonsalmenningen:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0814.jpg

Trelast street west:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0820.jpg

Opera bridge:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0821.jpg

Akerselva:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0824.jpg

Langkaia:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0826.jpg

Vippetangen:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0828.jpg

Thank you both for the great updates :). I was planning to snap a few photos down there myself these days.


Looks a bit tight for the snøhetta building to squeeze in here

No no, tight is good ;)

wow,Nice skyline :)

Update from 22.01.10

12 floors under roof now, 5 more to go.

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221364.jpg?t=1264173521

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221363.jpg?t=1264173572

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221361-1.jpg?t=1264173624

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221352.jpg?t=1264173649

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221350.jpg?t=1264173666

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221347.jpg?t=1264173692

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221346.jpg?t=1264173710

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P1221345.jpg?t=1264173727

The pillars for floors 13-15 are up. Sorry about the poor quality, snatched this from the osu website. Hopefully we'll see the cladding coming up soon! This thing will be sweet =)

http://www.amtyler.com/now.jpg

Lol, there was this article from the Aftens "Midt i byen" paper, where Niels Torp explained how sad he was when he saw these buildings rising taller :) I guess he's not a regular visitor to this tread :D

Niels Torp lost my respect with his lakkergata proposal, so stfu Niels >(

Lol, there was this article from the Aftens "Midt i byen" paper, where Niels Torp explained how sad he was when he saw these buildings rising taller :) I guess he's not a regular visitor to this tread :D

Why? Did he want his name on one of them?!?!

The pillars for floors 13-15 are up. Sorry about the poor quality, snatched this from the osu website. Hopefully we'll see the cladding coming up soon! This thing will be sweet =)



great picture, thanks for posting....

the more i see barcode, the more it feels like when you have one of those days on sim city, where you just bulldoze and rebuild half your city :lol:

6/2-10: This is a big one, again - hopefully no one is bother by that :)

From Sinsen Silo:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/CSC_0992.jpg

Kongsv:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_0999.jpg

Geita bru:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1001.jpg

Anne Thomessens plass:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1010.jpg

From Oslo Z:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1011.jpg

East view:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1018.jpg

North:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1025.jpg

Cladding!! m))
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1026.jpg

West, notice the bricks laid under the bridge:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1028.jpg

More cladding, looks like the S-shape will be well-marked in this building after all:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1030.jpg

Opera roof:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1040.jpg

Akerselvalmenningen:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1043.jpg

Closer one, here is the tunnel for Akerselva - doesn't look very appealing does it, i suppose Elveforum wants to build an entirely new one?
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1044.jpg

Stasjonsalmenningen:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1046.jpg

Further east:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1047.jpg

Sørengautstikker:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1050.jpg

Closer:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1052.jpg

^^ Wow! Looks just awesome against the water like that. Thanks for the updates, its really nice for those of us who don't live in the area. :)

I envy your view soo much!

A lot of great pictures of what will become a great highrise

Sørengautstikker:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1050.jpg


take that talin!!!!!

:nuts:

Sørengautstikker:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/6feb10/DSC_1050.jpg

God, can they tear down that hideous building in front of the opera already! There are so incredibly many of these dilapidating fuglies around the coast of Oslo, and no one does anything about them. Tear them down, once and for all, especially at such prime tourist locations!

Think it's still in use, or atleast it was. They used it as a storage for some equipment for the tunnel-making.

Visma has now reached full height :)
http://osu.no/operakvarteret/now.jpg

I know you all hate this webcam, so i will snap some photos l8r <3

In the meantime, this is from yesterday: 15/2-10... If you look closely you can see the collums for floors 16 and 17:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/16feb10/DSC_1001.jpg

It could be topped out before the weekend. The facade is coming with an amazing speed. One third of the western facade is already in place. Maybe the hole building will be completed on the outside before April!!! :cheers:

^^ Great stuff. Really like the cladding on this one - will look great when finished. :)

^^I like the parts where they're not using the cladding best. Finally a building in Barcode with some facade variations!:happy:

Well, time to get an even better impression of how the cladding is. I fought my way through the now closed pedestrian road along future DEg, to take these two pictures.

Sorry for the odd shape on the pictures. Seems I used the default resolution on my cellphone:)

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/20100218_002.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/20100218_003.jpg

Cladding running down all the way to the street? And here i was thinking Stasjonsalmenningen would be a commercial street .... :ohno:

Have the plans been changed then? The render obviously show an open first floor facade along stasjonsallmeningen. Why would they change that:dunno:

Yes, it is a bit strange. Was it part of the second round in the planing, where they decided to take some grips to make the "S"-shape more evident? I seem to remember they wanted to do some changes to the lower floors back then. This is the result?

If so, very strange/stupid. I thought the whole concept with Stasjonallmeningen was a living urban space...

That's odd. From the renders of stasjonsalmenningen it looks like there will be retail all the way up to the bridge.

http://www.bjorvikautvikling.no/stream_file.asp?iEntityId=349

Stasjonsallmenningen er det sentrale byrom i Bispevika. Stasjonsallmenningen og Stasjonsinngang øst er det fotgjengerdominerte bindeleddet over jernbanens sporområde og knytter eksisterende byområder sammen med Bjrørvika og sjøfronten. Her blir det byliv og aktivitet både over døgnet og gjennom året..

How this is going to happen without street level retail is beyond me. Hopefully we're wrong and the pictures of the construction site are misleading.

That's odd. From the renders of stasjonsalmenningen it looks like there will be retail all the way up to the bridge.

http://www.bjorvikautvikling.no/stream_file.asp?iEntityId=349



How this is going to happen without street level retail is beyond me. Hopefully we're wrong and the pictures of the construction site are misleading.

If you look at Ice Cheese's pictures, it seems like they have started the cladding 3 stories up the wall, which leads me to think that they will stick to the original plans, with glass fascades from the 3rd story and down to the first story, as shown on the official illustrations.

If you look at Ice Cheese's pictures, it seems like they have started the cladding 3 stories up the wall, which leads me to think that they will stick to the original plans, with glass fascades from the 3rd story and down to the first story, as shown on the official illustrations.

That's true, but I mean in the very back. In the renders on OSU's website it looks like there will be retail in the upper part of the building, close to the bridge, but in Ice Cheese's pictures it looks like they've been dropped.

Looking at the picture below, it seems that the rear part of this facade, towards the bridge/railway tracks, does not contain retail. The other rendered image in this thread shows and old version of the building.

http://osu.no/typo3temp/pics/cd4c2d65a0.jpg

Welcome to the forum Osloborger.

There are regulated 10.000 sqm of retail/shopping space in Operakvarteret:
Vi planlegger et spennende ”bygulv” hvor man kan ferdes gjennom området i gater, smug og pasasjer. På gateplan vil det komme ca 10 000 kvm lokaler jevnt fordelt i alle byggene hvor man vil finne et variert tilbud av forretninger, restauranter, kafeer, treningssentre, gallerier samt andre servicetilbud. Arealmessig kan dette sammenlignes med alle butikkene i Bogstadveien fra Valkyrie Plass til Hegdehaugsveien!

There are regulated 10.000 sqm of retail/shopping space in Operakvarteret:

Which buildings will have the most shopping? Will it only be towards DEG?

There will be an indoor passage through most of the buildings (the hole in PWC is the entrance to this), so shopping/retail will face DEG, Stasjonsallmenningen and this interior passage as far as I understand. OSU (the developer) states that the retail will be distributed equally throughout the Operakvareret

Cladding running down all the way to the street? And here i was thinking Stasjonsalmenningen would be a commercial street .... :ohno:

Looks like they're following this plan:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Visma34.jpg?t=1267033814

Looks like they're following this plan:


yes, indeed - the retail units in the render are set back, definitely can be seen behind the steps...only not very well stocked :D

but the exposed columns certainly correspond to the actual structure

Updates from 1/3-10:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1333.jpg

More cladding and glas is up, structure is topped out:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1334.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1338.jpg

Geita bru:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1349.jpg

Kongsveien:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1352.jpg

Kongshavn:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1369.jpg

Sørenga:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1380.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1382.jpg

E18:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1390.jpg

Rotterdam barge:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1392.jpg

Stasjonsalmenningen:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1393.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1394.jpg

Akerselvalmenningen:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1396.jpg

Opera roof:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1401.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1402.jpg

Operagata:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1408.jpg

Thanks for great photos!

Yeah nice update, great pictures, thanks for sharing!

can we confirm from these photos, great photos by the way, that the open glass is only at the very front? towards the back the closed cladding goes all the way to the ground? It seems clear that this is the case, Im just asking as it is not always that easy to tell.

Yes, however there is room for a door next to the bridge landingplace - other than that i can't see any entrances...

Doesn't look like that anymore - that's for sure:) What's with the extra box there? I'm glad they removed it!


http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/bruxbjor10/DSC_1334.jpg


(Reply to MrLove Architecture, on the next page)

Formerly unshown photo made by the architect - INDARC:

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/weidel23/Visma.jpg

The cladding in between the S-shape as shown by the architects;

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/weidel23/visma2.jpg

Well, I guess they are older, considering how they don't include the "random pixels" of the cladding they're working with now. Newer renders also shows small balconies in the the spaces between the "S-shape", so the solution in your renders probably is not how it will be.

Two bigger renderings of Visma, link to larger rendering can be found below the renderings.
The renderings are made by MIR (http://mir.no/) and must be properly credited if used.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/VismaBygget2x1000.jpg
COPYRIGHT MIR (http://mir.no/)
>> download/open rendering (2124x2828 pixels | 3.4Mb .jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/VismaBygget2x2124.jpg)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/VismaBygget3x800.jpg
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>> download/open rendering (1332x3800 pixels | 2.2Mb .jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/VismaBygget3x1332.jpg)

The cladding for bottom floors are now around most of the building, and those renders are WRONG, it runs with the same pattern all the way to the ground... The entrances are made, but there isn't the open glass that are depicted all around the building in the renders.

^^Cladding all the way down towards Trelastgata too?

Yes.

^^Cladding all the way down towards Trelastgata too?

They've done Trelastgata all the way to full height, almost. Haven't you been around?!:D

Not lately. May last year I think:nuts:Yes.
Great. Lets give the nimbys another argument against this.

That is very disappointing - there ought to be more restrictions against changing fundamental design aspects after getting approval.

Does anyone have pics of how it looks now?

updated images 10/3

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/004.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/014-1.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/013.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/011-1.jpg

this is as close as i could get to the front, i guess this is where the only bit of uncladded building will be...
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/018.jpg

22/3-10:

Schweigaardsgate is now being used as a bus-parking, while the drivers wait they have a good view of the growing Bjørvika:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1431.jpg

Northern facade:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1432.jpg

A bit further west:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1433.jpg

East:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1438.jpg

The enerhaugen view:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1425.jpg

From west of Vippetangen:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1479.jpg

And east of Vippetangen:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1484.jpg

What you're pictures doesn't show, is that the glass on the "open part" of the faced around the main entrance (to the south) is practicly done. I haven't been to DEg recently either, so no pictures.

^ Fixing the mistake now :)

8/4-10

A closer look at the building facing south:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_1546.jpg

The slimside, the crane infront is working on the new sewer-system named Midgardsormen:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_1547.jpg

Southeast view:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_1548.jpg

Nordea moving in to Visma building?

http://www.hegnar.no/eiendom/article418167.ece

NORDEA and DNB NOR almost side by side, thats kind of interesting... It would be cool if they would go for Isfjellet, but that one is probably to small?

Jan 2014 it says the old deal runs out. Then Isfjellet should be more fitting for them. At least that's my very not neutral opinion:D

It must be great fun to live in Oslo with all this going on everywhere! Darn!

NORDEA and DNB NOR almost side by side, thats kind of interesting...

Then we will get a real financial district in Bjørvika. That's nice. ;)

Maybe Fokus or Sparebank 1 could join in the building Nordea doesn't take.

12.04.10

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P4121376.jpg?t=1271107572

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P4121375.jpg?t=1271107613

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P4121388.jpg?t=1271107635

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/013.jpg

I can't figure out these towers. Are they a part of some of the other buildings? Then why do the look like airport towers right now, and which building is it?

I can't figure out these towers. Are they a part of some of the other buildings? Then why do the look like airport towers right now, and which building is it?

Its DnB NOR Building A, this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=11147496&postcount=4) is how the building will look like. Construction thread here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=641578).

Thanks, still don't see how it will become the building on the render, but I guess I soon will find out :p

they are elevator shafts, isn't it obvious... ?

they are elevator shafts, isn't it obvious... ?

This is how pwc looked like under construction:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/Bilde015.jpg

Turning into..:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6082/construction00qh6.jpg

It's quite common to make the concreteshafts ahead like this with a gliding formwork.

That's what i said, no need to tell me with pictures:lol:

It's the core, concrete shaft, elevator shaft, random concrete thing, call it whatever you want, the point is, that the way they are building these buildings, is to built around the central cores.

That's what i said, no need to tell me with pictures:lol:

Wasn't for you either ;)

the way they are building these buildings, is to built around the central cores.

If they didn't it would tumble over by the windload as quick as a house of cards :)

Yeah, i'm pretty sure i've heard of other ways of making skyscrapers though, it's too bad we can't find pics of Oslo Plaza under construction, complete with cores visible, why the hell aren't there pics? :bash:

^^ Like it doesn't excist for real http://www.sbelements.com/images/smilies/Scared.gif - just an illusion...

Yeah they can be made with a strong skeleton instead :)

21/4-10

From Ola Narr, as you can see the 13. floor is getting more open glass-pannels type cladding, the kind we would also want in the bottom floors:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/210410/DSC_1608.jpg

21/4-10

From Ola Narr, as you can see the 13. floor is getting more open glass-pannels type cladding, the kind we would also want in the bottom floors:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/210410/DSC_1608.jpg

kinda blocks the view tho, doesn't it :p

Blocks what? a few islands, wake up people, you can't have a view towards islands forever:p :lol:

I think the Barcode project is a fiasco. Look, you can still see Nesodden!:bash:

A main priority for the city should be to make Nesodden as distant as possible.

21/4-10

From Ola Narr, as you can see the 13. floor is getting more open glass-pannels type cladding, the kind we would also want in the bottom floors:

What I see in real life is that the floor with the open glass facade lacks roof. So what I guess, is that the open glass facade will be a wind screen for the roof garden, and that is the reason why it is so open. (the facade is taller than the building)

Blocks what? a few islands, wake up people, you can't have a view towards islands forever:p :lol:

i was being ironic, glenn.

i know that otherwise you would be on stoppblokk.no and not Skydcrapercity anyway. :lol: But it's sad some people think like this in real life too though....

Its not sad, people just have different opinions

Paid a visit to Oslo this weekend and had the pleasure of seeing Barcode first-hand :) Naturally I took a lot of pictures..

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9785/dsc0003ae.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6968/dsc0016pq.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7749/dsc0019eo.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7114/dsc0020om.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1429/dsc0025xz.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7141/dsc0041uc.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8297/dsc0043j.jpg

IMO Visma rocks :banana:

Sorry about the rather large size of these pictures..

Nice to see photos from a non-local!

I'm just looking at this project and thinking - there was used huge amount of aluminium for this project, because there is a LOT OF glass divisions (I mean horizontal profiles) and still there was used unitized system (from prefabricated elements), that means that there was all vertical and some of horizontal profiles made as double profiles to connect them on site..

I think the cost of 1m2 of materials was huge for this project..

Also - the U-value (heat transmission coefficient) of profiles is always worse than of glass or opaque (blind parts) parts, that means that they needed to have very high demands for these parts to reach normal insulation characteristics for whole facade.

Any way - the final result looks good to me!

19/5-10

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/190510/DSC_1860.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/190510/DSC_1864.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/190510/DSC_1873.jpg

Adding some of my newest pictures too.

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P5191414.jpg?t=1274373421

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P5191412.jpg?t=1274373478

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P5191410.jpg?t=1274373492

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Album%202/P5191406.jpg?t=1274373592

I really like OperaKvarteret and the whole/most of Bjørvika development, so it's not to sound complaining all the time. But to me Visma was a slight disappointment. It's not terrible, but could be better as well.

It is not terrible at all, the cladding looks very good, and the glass-fields in between the "towers" also manages to make it less massive.

What i however don't like about the design is the massive 4 floor section on top, that is just too wide for my taste, why haven't the architects made any attempt to smooth out this? Also the building does not meet the street in a good way, there should be a different type of design on 1st floor and parts of 2nd floor atleast.

31/5-10:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1862.jpg

A few different persectives from Ekeberg:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1887.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1878.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1873.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1872.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1895.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/CSC_1885.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/CSC_1871.jpg

Visma has become my favorite barcode building!

What i however don't like about the design is the massive 4 floor section on top, that is just too wide for my taste, why haven't the architects made any attempt to smooth out this? Also the building does not meet the street in a good way, there should be a different type of design on 1st floor and parts of 2nd floor atleast.

This section (the top 4 floors) has to have the same dimmensions as the rest of the building. Anything else would ruin the whole architectural concept. I think you will see that it looks right when it is finished.

31/5-10:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1862.jpg




ooh, looks lovely now the sun has come out - the colour of the sky goes beautifully with the non-reflective sections...


i love oslo... :)

Visma cladding pretty much finnished. 13.06.2010

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde418.jpg

Thanks for all the updates :)

18/6-10

Closer look at the western facade:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18jun10/DSC_1892.jpg

I get that flashback to early 2000's when everyone were playing "worms" on their Nokias, looking at this building. Wonder if this inspired the architects!

^^More Tetris, if you ask me!:D


Just looking forward to someone "flips" it!

3/7-10

Rooftop Sinsen view:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_1974.jpg

E18 bridge:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_1990.jpg

Sørenga:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_1991.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_1993.jpg

Sukkerbiten:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_2011.jpg

Opera roof:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_2015.jpg

Just a few pics from Friday last week.

http://i.imgur.com/2Ke96.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aVAFI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lxIAv.jpg

Visma cladding pretty much finnished. 13.06.2010

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde418.jpg

The facade elevator is now gone. :)

31/5-10:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/310510/DSC_1862.jpg

:)

Resized, screen from darkarkitekter.no/
http://i56.tinypic.com/5umr5x.jpg

^^:nuts:

Now, they both happened to both take the picture while the fat dude in the blue tshirt walked by?

All rights reserved, hmm.. I assume that Dark Arkitekter have asked Ingenioren in front to use his photo? Ingenioren is not a proffessional photographer, but still has the rights for the photo. Dark Arkitekter as the professional part have an obligation to do this in the correct way.

^^Eitherway if he's been asked or not, Dark should credit him.

For the record, no one has asked me. Kind of nice they pick my photo tough (Lol.) I don't care about being credited.

Once again, these architects could well join the discussion in here if they are browsing trough eitherway... (Are they subject to privacy of client, or could they discuss for example the small windows in first floor and other decissions made during design I/we wonder about..)

Østkantliv writes about the VISMA building. According to them and their sources, they still haven't signed any big contract for this building. Only Ving, the travel agency has agreed to take one floor. Will this building stay empty when done? Well, there's still some months till the building is finished, though...

Read the full article here: http://ostkantliv.blogspot.com/2010/11/bjrvika-visma-blokka-fortsatt-tom.html



And how nice that Ving will move. Now can they tear down Christian Frederiks plass 5, or what?!:bash:

This one?

Is it really that bad? :x

http://www.orangesmile.com/hotel-pictures/foto-hotel-thon-opera-oslo.jpg

The one behind. On the left side...

The lowrise part of postgiro?

Nvm:


i see what you mean, and by god is that an ugly building.

The one behind. On the left side...

I think the smaller side building is better looking than the hotel itself. I also think that the hotel has gotten more negative criticism than it deserves. The street level floor is quite good, but the top floors containing the rentable rooms seem quite cheap on the outside.

Ving is actually not such a bad building, it's just to small... On some of the renderings from Bjørvika there is a 3rd wave from Fjordporten located on top of it ;) The most annoying part of hotel Opera is the taxi and parking facing Oslo S, the piece of road there is even more annoying than Schweigaards. I like the way it's roof-covered sidewalk in Eufemias.