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Þróndeimr December 1st, 2007, 12:56 PM Logo Tower
Logo Tower is a 3 900m2 large, 76m tall residential and commercial building at Gullhaug Torg, Nydalen. The tower is designed
as a slick and "monolithic" precise column, rising from a low pavilion and is conceived entirely in glass. Moveable panels and
coloured lighting are to give variation in the tower's appearance in the townscape and help establish it as a symbol of a new,
dynamic part of Oslo. Kristian Jarmund Architects (http://kristinjarmund.no/) is the architect of the project which is planned to start construction in
late 2011 with completion in early 2013.
2012: Developers cancel project simply because its not profitable to built the tower with such a few numbers of apartments.
http://kristinjarmund.no/img/bilde_03_web_4e11af46-ebe8-4c60-8d6e-435553a91f8d.jpg http://kristinjarmund.no/img/bilde_02_web_4e11af20-844c-4a6a-a080-42af53a91f8d.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4060/betweenbar20pixelsssc.jpghttp://kristinjarmund.no/img/bilde_01_web_4dfa85ae-9130-4546-b67e-55b453a91f8d.jpg
Insane alex December 1st, 2007, 02:41 PM looks way taller than 78m in these renderings! :P
LatvianGG December 1st, 2007, 03:50 PM looks way taller than 78m in these renderings! :P
It does, perhaps that is because the building is designed quite thin, with small floor space.
Ton-Tille December 1st, 2007, 05:34 PM looking great! It really does look taller than 78m
Jim856796 December 29th, 2007, 10:09 AM The Logo Tower is planned to have only one apartment per floor.
SimsPlanet2 December 30th, 2007, 12:25 AM Ugly colours!
.oreo. December 30th, 2007, 01:09 PM The Logo Tower is planned to have only one apartment per floor.
Hmm...interesting. How many sq metres?
Ingenioren February 6th, 2008, 02:45 PM 120m2, this might get build, at least it's not in conflict with the oslo high-rise plans and it would be a great landmark.
Jo February 6th, 2008, 03:38 PM Boligtårn i Nydalen (på planstadiet). Hver etasje utgjør en separat leilighet for den økonomiske eliten, antar vi. Slik lagdeles dem som ønsker å nå toppen av sin sosiale karrière, hvor den som inntar øverste leilighet kan skue ned på byen og oss andre som mener dette bør arkiveres i filen tragikomisk byutvikling.
Seems like some people are jealous :D
muster February 6th, 2008, 05:47 PM Seems like some people are jealous :D
Why do they care??? So what if some people are rich, its not like rest of the norwegians are poor!!!:bash: It seems they now have run out of nimby arguments, and they try to make it into a moral debate :nuts:
Håkønljzberg February 15th, 2008, 08:57 PM I love the Tower because it looks Strange and Unique.
Ingenioren March 26th, 2009, 02:51 PM From yesterdays Aften: Sagene og Nordre Aker:
Strid om høyhus: Skal Nydalen få et 24 etasjers høyt signalbygg? Nå sendes saken til politisk behandling. Ap og SV vil heller ha stort torg i Nydalen.
So we will finally get a verdict, i don't have the paper - but maybe it will be treated in Byutviklingskomiteen 1. April. And no one will believe it when it gets approved:D
mjoks007 March 26th, 2009, 03:08 PM I dont understand. Why not both O.o ? Square and building...
Ingenioren March 26th, 2009, 05:29 PM Well, they want a bigger square and no building, you see in the renders it's taking up 1/3 of the room there, but then again that space is only used for parking at the moment as most of Nydalens available space... (Looks like shit!) I think i heard someone had a plan of turning it all into parks tough... (Not this area, but other areas in Nydalen)
IceCheese March 26th, 2009, 08:28 PM I guess open areas give more votes?:dunno:
Spearman March 26th, 2009, 11:40 PM We all know that SV are notorious NIMBYs and Ap, well, who knows what they believe. They were all hard-core NIMBYs against Barcode, until they suddenly understood that one 42 story tower blocks much less than many middle size towers. And then they changed again.
So they will say something just to make people aware that they are there. Nothing else.
Ingenioren March 27th, 2009, 09:39 AM I guess so, but venstre is very nimby aswell... Remember it was SV who finally got Barcode approved....
Ingenioren April 3rd, 2009, 08:39 AM I was a bit fast in the trigger there when i said 1. april. Jokes on me! It turns out it will go down this way:
-First it has to be treated by the city-government who will make a statement.
-Then it will be turned over to the commite of development for a vote.
-Then the city council will vote. (They are the ones with the real power.) - Hopefully this will happend this year.
-Then nimbys will find all sorts of loopholes and complain, these will have to be treated aswell.
-Then they will have to file for a construction permit.
-Then nimbys will find loopholes and complain again...
-Then Avantor just have to sell the appartments with profit.
-And this will be U/C in a few years if we are lucky! Maybe spring 2011?
Nydalen made a paper distributed with Aften yesterday, it's also available online:
http://k.aftenposten.no/bilag/ap09/Avantor/uke14/02Apr
No mention of the light-installation, i hope they didn't drop it. But i'm afraid they did, or will do as buyers will probably be sceptical....
kjetilab April 3rd, 2009, 07:07 PM If the nimby's can complain about it, then we can give our praises. If there is a upcoming høringsrunde.
Ingenioren April 4th, 2009, 02:15 PM Høring is done a long time ago, no? But there are complaints-rights after it's approved?
mjoks007 April 4th, 2009, 02:22 PM Nydalen made a paper distributed with Aften yesterday, it's also available online:
http://k.aftenposten.no/bilag/ap09/Avantor/uke14/02Apr
No mention of the light-installation, i hope they didn't drop it. But i'm afraid they did, or will do as buyers will probably be sceptical....
Nice! Do you know/have any information about the new projects on page 11 (top corner)?
OT: Are there a defined date when "byblikk" get released?
Ingenioren April 4th, 2009, 02:27 PM I'm guessing it's this one?
http://www.avantor.no/artikkel.html?menu=1&submenu=5&endmenu=95&artid=274 Check PBE with the address if you want to know more... ;D
http://www.avantor.no/img/publish/2008/08/Nydalsveien_16-26.jpg
"Blandet bebyggelse" Sweet;D
IceCheese September 24th, 2009, 07:00 PM This building is now APPROVED by the city council!
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3286772.ece
Time to raise your flags, everyone!!!:banana::banana: :cheers:
:dance:
City of Rain September 24th, 2009, 07:03 PM cool tower, just too bad it wont have any impact on the waterfront skyline!
but like i said, its a great addition to oslo nonetheless :)
mjoks007 September 24th, 2009, 07:50 PM Great! A tower like this will make Nydalen much more exciting than it is today.
Þróndeimr September 24th, 2009, 08:16 PM Awesome, great news! :cheers:
marshol September 24th, 2009, 08:50 PM Yes, finally! I was thinking about the tower yesterday, and my thoughts were not positive i must say. So now: :banana: :cucumber: :carrot: :pepper:
SMCD September 24th, 2009, 10:09 PM Great news! Really like the design of this tower! Looking forward to see it in real life. I would be even happier if it was part of our little high rise cluster down by the fjord (or in a more central location), but hey, you cant complain when something as fun as this tower gets approved in Oslo.
Ingenioren September 25th, 2009, 02:54 PM ^ That's great, but it's not approved yet, it still has to pas trough the City parliament comitee of development and then plenum... (Where it has very small chances of getting declined.) *man these things takes freaking ages...*
Now let's hope this will make a precedens for more "Sculptural slim towers" troughout the city... (Together with Oxers tower, Alnabru tower and Tjuvholmens tower. (We really need more of them with all the brown-cheese fatties around.) Many locations are fitting for such towers, i would like to see one on top of Krystallen.. 150 meters tall.. :)
This is nice to know, i wish it was the other way around tough.. :
"Byantikvaren mener høyhus er mindre konfliktfylt i den ytre delen av byen, enn i indre by."
More extensive article:
http://nordreakerbudstikke.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090924/NYHETER/4058361
cool tower, just too bad it wont have any impact on the waterfront skyline!
No, but Oslo is more than just the waterfront, it's not like it will be invisible from the sea either... :
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/nydalenskyline.jpg
mjoks007 September 25th, 2009, 03:18 PM Which one of you payed byantikvaren? :D
Også Byantikvaren og Rådet for byarkitektur har vært positive til prosjektet.
Since there will be apartments, I doubt there only will be made of glas.
Ingenioren September 25th, 2009, 03:20 PM Who knows? I live in a glas-tower, and i think it's magnificent :) But it looks a bit boring from outside during daylight when the sun-shading is down.... They should use the same type of colourful facade as Torre Agbar.. =)
mjoks007 September 27th, 2009, 05:42 PM ^Nice picture above. Shows the ending of inner city, one day in the future at least:|
Spearman September 27th, 2009, 11:51 PM Woohoo!! When I saw the thread had a new post, I was sure it had been declined, and now suddenly, it looks as though reason will prevail?!?
A happy day for the Nydalen! (and the city)
:cheers:
GlennHGSD October 4th, 2009, 06:17 PM I hope it gets approved, it's a pretty funky building :D
IceCheese November 8th, 2009, 12:55 AM Just a short update: I've been follwing this case on the oslo.no site, and it seems it was up in Byutviklingskomiteen (representing Bystyret) 28th of October, but they delayed the final decission of it. Then probably it'll come up again at the next meating 18th of November. I don't know if the delay is bad news, but it may be that they will here out the local protesters before making a decission, which I don't like. The NIMBYs here, Solsiden, aka "The dark side", seems to be completely dellusional, as all of those living there has balconies facing west. Lying south of the tower, they won't lose sunlight either! Will any of them even see the tower?
Read about the postponement here. (http://www.sak.oslo.kommune.no/dok/Byutviklingskomiteen/2009_11/921092_2_1.PDF)
Read the comment from the crazy "neighbors". (http://www.sak.oslo.kommune.no/dok/Vedlegg/2009_10/919919_1_1.PDF)
mjoks007 November 8th, 2009, 01:32 AM ^^Lol, that was some really good arguments:lol:
I registrate that all the innvolved nimbys live at "solsiden". Are they losing any view at all:nuts:
Ingenioren November 8th, 2009, 09:22 PM It's not that uncommon to delay these votings, i'm not worried about this tower atm :)
ramblersen November 8th, 2009, 11:52 PM It may be in here already but can anyone tell me the size of the footprint of this beauty?:)
IceCheese November 9th, 2009, 02:47 AM ^^Only 120 sqm for the tower. There will be a larger lowrise part (a pavilion) though, but I'm not sure of it's footprint.
muster November 18th, 2009, 07:58 PM Looks like Logo will get it's approval this evening.
(http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.6870004)
Funny to read some of the comments from the protesters, and this one just saved my day:
- Jeg tror det vil virke som et litt truende bygg. Det er smalt, men veldig høyt. Det skal lyse om natten og tildels om dagen. For de som går og stirrer ned i bakken er det ikke så farlig. Men for de som bor på Kjelsås eller Grefsen, og titter ut av vinduet, vil det jo se ut som Jedi-ridderens lysende sverd. Det er ikke veldig tiltrekkende,
:rofl:
marshol November 18th, 2009, 09:14 PM ^^ Lol, some people are chronic nimbys with no good arguments at all. Like they have to be negativ no matter what.
And it will be 25-27 floors now. That's cool.
24 etasjer høyt tårn på en én til tre etasjer høy sokkel
GlennHGSD November 18th, 2009, 11:29 PM i do kinda think that one apartment per floor is rather silly though...:lol:
Ingenioren November 19th, 2009, 09:37 AM "261/09 09/01908 Gullhaug torg i Nydalen - Reguleringsplan - Bolig, hotell, kontor, forretning, bevertning og torg - Bydel Nordre Aker - Byrådssak 191 av 01.10.2009 (http://www.bystyret.oslo.kommune.no/byutvikling/article144308-5135.html). Saken ble enstemmig utsatt."
Again.... :P What are they waiting for? It's still 24 floors tough, it's just a bad sentence. It is silly, but it's apparantly the only way to get highrises approved in this town... (After 3-4 years of waiting ofcourse.)
IceCheese November 20th, 2009, 01:03 AM ^^According to Aftenposten, SV is very critical against the surroundings (the highrise part is ok, though). Something about cars. So what happens is that they want a new høringsrunde (again, according to Aftenposten). But then Aftenposten says they probably will approve the building in the start of December, with possible bystyre-vedtak before christmas. But as far as I know, they can't have a hearing so short:dunno: Aftenposten didn't make anything clear:ohno:
Ingenioren November 23rd, 2009, 10:02 AM http://nordreakerbudstikke.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091119/NYHETER/723743625 and here we have it. Sv wants to close the square completly from cars, not a bad idea, imo :)
muster November 23rd, 2009, 06:30 PM And one of the comments calls it a Monster building, lol..
SMCD November 24th, 2009, 05:20 PM And one of the comments calls it a Monster building, lol..
It's amazing what qualifies as a Monster building for some Norwegians.
And the Jedi Sword-guy ... :nuts:
Ingenioren November 24th, 2009, 05:34 PM If i were a Nydalen resident i would stop complaining, it's hardly a lively place, so this is very much needed!
Ingenioren February 11th, 2010, 04:26 PM Once again SV proves to be the saving party for highrises, in exchange for closing down Gullhaugs main square for car-trafic, they voted yes to FRP+H suggesting this tower in its full height :) :banana: :banana:
Only city halls final yes, and this is a GO!
http://nordreakerbudstikke.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100210/NYHETER/702109997
IceCheese February 12th, 2010, 12:06 AM ^^Up with the flag again? It's celebrations for Nydalen! Heard they were racking up a party around Hausmannsgate tonight also. Must be some other YIMBYists in this city after all!:)
Ingenioren February 18th, 2010, 04:56 PM The tower passed right trough city hall :) Oslos 3rd tallest building!
Þróndeimr February 18th, 2010, 04:58 PM ^^ :dance:
IceCheese February 18th, 2010, 05:01 PM Looks as I will take the subway up to Nydalen more often from now on!
muster February 18th, 2010, 06:30 PM Great news for Nydalen and Oslo! Do we know when the construction start?
IceCheese February 18th, 2010, 06:35 PM ^^Well, people have 30 days to "påklage et vedtak", don't they?
muster February 18th, 2010, 06:48 PM ^^Well, people have 30 days to "påklage et vedtak", don't they?
How could I forget that? No decision is final in Norway...:ohno: Maybe after 2-3 years with appeals and delays we can start hoping for this one to rise :nuts:
Ingenioren February 18th, 2010, 06:53 PM Still has to send "rammesøknad" aswell :)
marshol February 18th, 2010, 07:32 PM Oh yes! I'm optimistic about this one. Think we will see construction in not too long.
Ingenioren February 24th, 2010, 03:09 PM Appears you are right:)
http://nordreakerbudstikke.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100224/NYHETER/702239993
bygget skiller seg klart fra andre høyhus, og at vedtaket ikke gjør det lettere å bygge høyt i Oslo.
– Vi har en veldig streng høyhusplan, som sier at det ikke skal bygges over 42 meter. Men i enkelte områder er det åpnet for noe høyere bygninger, som for eksempel rundt Oslo S og i Bjørvika. Dette bygget er spesielt, og skiller seg ut ved at det er slankt og skulpturelt. Dette er på ingen måte et nytt Oslo Plaza, sier Hagen.
.....
utbygger Avantor er meget godt fornøyd med at reguleringsplanen er vedtatt, etter å ha jobbet med prosjektet i ni år. I følge direktør Christian Joys vil arbeidet med rammesøknaden igangsettes umiddelbart, og den forventes innsendt til Plan- og bygningsetaten sensommer 2010.
So far there are 3 exceptions from høyhusplanen maximum height approved: Tjuvholmen, Nydalen and Alnabru. And Økern will flow trough the system eventually, since there are no objections. So it's aubviously not that strict considering it's only 5 years old! Lucky the developpers are patient, atleast 11 years will have passed since Avantor started working on this untill first resident moves in :nuts:
muster August 15th, 2010, 09:33 PM Sensommer 2010. Any news on this one? I'm to lazy to browse myself..
Ingenioren August 16th, 2010, 10:56 AM As soon as there is news. This is where you will find it!
Galro January 5th, 2011, 04:06 PM Any news on this one?
muster January 10th, 2011, 12:36 AM Any news on this one?
Don't think so, but it sure is about time.. :gaah:
espenhs January 11th, 2011, 06:41 PM Would love to see this every time I'm on my way to my lectures. :nuts:
Ingenioren January 11th, 2011, 07:57 PM You have the responsibility to report any sign of prep-works on Gullhaug Torg here! :)
espenhs January 14th, 2011, 04:29 PM You have the responsibility to report any sign of prep-works on Gullhaug Torg here! :)Yup I'll check that out now and then :)
marshol February 1st, 2011, 07:38 PM Went by this plot today. No sign of any work here. Still only parked cars on the plot. :(
muster February 1st, 2011, 07:40 PM Went by this plot today. No sign of any work here. Still only parked cars on the plot. :(
Thanks for the news...
Ingenioren February 23rd, 2011, 09:04 PM Signalbygget
Prosjektnr: 23085
Rubrikk: NYBYGG AV HOTELL, KONTOR, BOLIGER MM I OSLO
Prosjektadresse: Gullhaug torg 2B
Byggestart: Aug. 2011
Byggekostnad: Ikke offisiell
Kristin Jarmund Arkitekter AS Arkitektskisse, Arkitekt
Avantor AS Tiltakshaver
muster February 23rd, 2011, 09:20 PM :colgate:Signalbygget
Prosjektnr: 23085
Rubrikk: NYBYGG AV HOTELL, KONTOR, BOLIGER MM I OSLO
Prosjektadresse: Gullhaug torg 2B
Byggestart: Aug. 2011
Byggekostnad: Ikke offisiell
Kristin Jarmund Arkitekter AS Arkitektskisse, Arkitekt
Avantor AS Tiltakshaver
:D
Can we hope for better renders soon?
Spearman February 24th, 2011, 01:21 AM That's really good news!! :carrot:
Nothing to add, really, just wanted to get that off my chest.
Ingenioren March 24th, 2011, 09:42 PM http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0272.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0271.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0270.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0269.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0268-1.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0265-1.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0264-1.jpg
City of Rain March 24th, 2011, 09:49 PM That looks fantastic, and taller than 78m :)
Ingenioren March 24th, 2011, 10:04 PM It's really 76m, but the optical effect is brilliant... :) And before anyone complains, the lighting is still in place in the denser glass fields on the render - just somehow none of the renders were night-renders :nuts:
Þróndeimr March 24th, 2011, 10:14 PM Looks really nice actually, lets hope no complains go through.
Galro March 24th, 2011, 10:15 PM I think it looks better now!
Ingenioren March 24th, 2011, 10:31 PM Unfortunatly (according to developper Avantor) it's not very profitable, so there isn't much chance we will see such slim highrises spread around town anytime soon....
IceCheese March 24th, 2011, 11:16 PM Not very weird. Base tower is about one third of the total tower mass!:lol:
Hopefully, if we get a new "sculptural tower" it wont be so boxy though. A circular tower, maybe spiral shape as the new tower in Chicago was supposed to be, would be great!
Galro March 25th, 2011, 12:09 AM The building is approved and it will definitely be built, right?
Olabil March 25th, 2011, 12:14 AM Something to look forward to here!
muster March 25th, 2011, 12:23 AM I wonder how the impact will be on the skyline from different parts of the city?
Galro March 25th, 2011, 12:25 AM ... And in case anyone is wondering, here is how the plot looks today:
http://maps.google.no/?ie=UTF8&ll=59.950124,10.76558&spn=0.001923,0.006968&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=59.950124,10.76558&panoid=L7zIKLjrhxQoV48bPz-1_Q&cbp=12,335.03,,0,-0.47
The buildings front entrance will be more or less exactly where the view is placed.
Ingenioren March 25th, 2011, 02:05 PM The building is approved and it will definitely be built, right?
Absolutely :)
Galro March 25th, 2011, 02:09 PM That's good to hear. I was unsure when Þróndeimr stated that he "hoped no complains go through".
Ingenioren March 25th, 2011, 02:16 PM About the lighting. I am afraid it will scare of residents and be cut out of the project... (Just a sense i have...)
Galro March 25th, 2011, 03:19 PM I've made a international tread about the tower. Is not often you can do that with a highrise project in Oslo.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=74903697#post74903697
... And I hope Þróndeimr won't be mad after I more or less copied his OP from here.:angel:
IceCheese March 25th, 2011, 03:47 PM Facade lights aren't exactly new in this city. Why reserve them to shades of white? Nydalen should have lights in all colors!
Tin_Can March 25th, 2011, 06:32 PM So which design will they use? The original design (tbh,looks lot better than second design) or the one Ingenioren posted?
Anyway,I like it because it's slim & minimalistic building.
Ingenioren March 25th, 2011, 06:50 PM The one i posted is the current design.
Tin_Can March 25th, 2011, 06:56 PM Damn! :(
Galro March 26th, 2011, 12:51 AM I actually prefer the second version. Each to their own I guess.
:)
IceCheese March 26th, 2011, 02:36 AM ^^Please keep in mind that the renders posted by Ingenioren doesn't represent colors and facade materials very well. These are technical renders, not realistic ones.
This is what the architect writes about the facade:
Fasaden er komponert av tette, halvtransparente og gjennomsiktige glassflater satt som gjennomgående, vertikale felt mellom eksponerte dekkeforkanter.
Deler av de tette feltene vil ha belysning bak utlektet glass for å gi fasaden liv og for å uttrykke transparens, også på kveldstid.
Google translate, with my best effort to make intelligable: "The facade is composed of dense, semi-transparent and translucent glass set as consistent, vertical fields between exposed slab edges.
Parts of the dense fields will have lighting behind out-lathed(?) glass facade to express life and transparency, also at night."
Tin_Can March 26th, 2011, 02:46 AM That sound promising. From renders it looked like highrise had concrete walls,but if entire facade is made out of glass panels with various transparency,then it might look really cool.
IceCheese April 14th, 2011, 07:39 PM Hm... I'm thinking that the facades on Logo Tower will be somewhat like the upper floors of Bella Center Hotel at Copenhagen when it's not lighted.
Here we have the combination of transparent and semi-transparent glass walls (Logo tower will have squared glass, not triangular though:D).
from the outside:
http://i54.tinypic.com/28s0r6e.jpg
from the inside:
http://i56.tinypic.com/300786r.jpg
(pictures by forumer Kapo311)
Ingenioren April 19th, 2011, 10:57 AM First ground-breaking :lol:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0330.jpg
marshol April 19th, 2011, 04:24 PM Oh yeah, it looks better than the renders already :banana:
muster April 19th, 2011, 08:27 PM Very promising.
IceCheese August 2nd, 2011, 10:09 PM Went by today (since it's August and all) and it's still a parking lot:(
Galro August 2nd, 2011, 10:12 PM Not fenced of or anything?
Btw: You really disappointed me here. I was hoping you either had a construction update or new renders when I saw you had bumped the tread!
IceCheese August 2nd, 2011, 10:23 PM ^^Victory!!!
No, nothing...
Btw, as far as I can read, 76,0 meters seems to be the right height. 78 m must be including the parking level.
Galro August 2nd, 2011, 10:43 PM That's crap. I'm really looking forward to this!
Galro August 6th, 2011, 06:43 PM Renders that haven't been photographed from a pc screen (clearer but smaller):
http://kristinjarmund.no/img/bilde_01_web_4dfa85ae-9130-4546-b67e-55b453a91f8d.jpg
http://kristinjarmund.no/img/bilde_03_web_4e11af46-ebe8-4c60-8d6e-435553a91f8d.jpg
http://kristinjarmund.no/img/bilde_02_web_4e11af20-844c-4a6a-a080-42af53a91f8d.jpg
Þróndeimr August 6th, 2011, 07:11 PM ^^ i updated the first post of this thread. You should also update the thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=74903697#post74903697) in the international section. :)
Galro August 6th, 2011, 07:14 PM ^^ Done. I just copied you post. ;)
GlennHGSD August 7th, 2011, 10:48 AM you know.. in a way i'd like this in bjørvika instead.. because most likely this thing will be all on it's own when it comes to highrises for eons in the nydalen area XD
Ingenioren August 7th, 2011, 11:45 AM Not really. This kind of thin tower looks better when it's not surrounded by fat towers - also makes the city appear larger if we manage to get a few of these around, first Tjuvholmen, Nydalen then hopefully Risløkka and Alnabru in the future.
GlennHGSD August 7th, 2011, 02:05 PM Well i don't know, i just think it would be neat with a really slim, so called pencil tower like this in Bjørvika too, because it really is all fat boxes there. Plaza is fat, Postgirobygget is fat, the entire barcode row, apart from 1 or 2 are fat.
While we're on to thin towers though, what's the news on whatsitname.. uh, Alcarel tower or something?
muster August 7th, 2011, 02:11 PM The problem with this tower is that it will hardly show in the skyline. Maybe we can see the top of it from Ekeberg, but that is pretty much it.
A question, if the construction starts this autumn, shouldn't the apartments be at sale now?
Galro August 7th, 2011, 02:40 PM Well i don't know, i just think it would be neat with a really slim, so called pencil tower like this in Bjørvika too, because it really is all fat boxes there. Plaza is fat, Postgirobygget is fat, the entire barcode row, apart from 1 or 2 are fat.
While we're on to thin towers though, what's the news on whatsitname.. uh, Alcarel tower or something?
I don't think any of the highrise around Oslo S are too fat. Most however are too low to make a skyline. This highrise wouldn't change that.
dj4life August 7th, 2011, 03:06 PM This looks nice. Great to know that there are some many qualitive projects done in Norway.
IceCheese August 7th, 2011, 03:36 PM The problem with this tower is that it will hardly show in the skyline. Maybe we can see the top of it from Ekeberg, but that is pretty much it.
A question, if the construction starts this autumn, shouldn't the apartments be at sale now?
No, that's not what they do for these small-scale high-end projects. If it were a 200 apartment block at Ensjø. yes, they won't risk that standing empty. But this is more like that infill in Parkveien, where they know it'll be sold eitherway, and that they'll get a higher price once people see it when it's finished. I guess sales start won't be until 2013.
Galro August 7th, 2011, 03:39 PM ^^ I also think the developmenter (Avantor) think this will be a landmark for Nydalen and therefore sees further value in the buildings than just the pure profit they get from the sales of the apartments.
Ingenioren August 11th, 2011, 10:37 PM what's the news on whatsitname.. uh, Alcarel tower or something?
Dead for now - but the tower still stands :)
Galro August 16th, 2011, 05:41 PM How Logo Towers plot looked like earlier today. Not fenced off, or anything else for that matters. Disappointing.
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/P1020599.jpg
marshol August 16th, 2011, 06:28 PM Thanks for checking out the plot. With completion in early 2013, they better start acting soon. There are some prep work to be done before the actual construction start.
Galro August 18th, 2011, 12:37 PM I sent a mail to ask when they would start building. This is the answer I got:
Hei
Vi fikk rammetillatelse på bygget i juni i år, og starter forberedelser til markedsføring, salg og bygging nå i høst. Når den faktiske byggingen starter er avhengig av flere forhold og vil tidligst bli våren 2012.
marshol August 18th, 2011, 03:01 PM doh. Another half year - atleast :nuts:
Galro January 5th, 2012, 04:57 PM Not the biggest news, I know, but here is another small render where you can see the building in relations to the other surrounding ones.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4818/signalbygget5.jpg
Source: http://avantor.no/artikkel.html?menu=1&submenu=&endmenu=&artid=297
Has anyone seen any ads for apartments in the buildings or is there any activity at the plot now?
IceCheese January 5th, 2012, 07:45 PM Still a parking lot. Checked this Monday. You should also be able to see when they apply for an "igangsettingstillatelse" on this site: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201103726
Galro January 6th, 2012, 11:29 AM ^^ Okay. Thanks for the information. I sent a mail to Avantor, and the building is apparently on hold.
Av diverse årsaker er prosjektet satt på vent inntil videre.
IceCheese January 6th, 2012, 01:10 PM ^^ Okay. Thanks for the information. I sent a mail to Avantor, and the building is apparently on hold.
I'm guessing they haven't got the price offerings they were hoping for for contracting. Or they're struggling to meet demands for building requirements (byggforskriften).
marshol January 6th, 2012, 06:58 PM Hmm, can't be the most profitable to keep it on hold too long. It's approved and the market is screaming for housings.
Ingenioren January 7th, 2012, 11:04 AM Avantors organization must be pretty tied up with the large projects going on elsewhere... It's not like this project will be tough to sell anyway - the big office projects on the other hand... Nydalen is so well-known it doesn't really need this to boost it's visibility - if it was Økern or Ulven it would be more important to finish the tower for commercial reasons...
marshol March 5th, 2012, 07:02 PM Does anyone know anything more about why this building is on hold? I think it's pretty strange.
Just for the record; I was there today, it's still a parking lot.
Galro March 5th, 2012, 07:39 PM Dunno, but you can contact them. I really want to see some activity here though!
Spearman March 5th, 2012, 11:22 PM Dead as a dodo. :(
Nine years of planning down the drain. Does anyone know when the "rammetillatelse" expires?
Edit: I know I've been going on and on about this before, but: this is exactly why housing is 3x the reasonable price today - there are so many vectors that need to come together for anything to happen, any one of which is enough to stop it. In many ways it's analogous to a parliament where every decision needs to be unanimous - nothing would ever get done.
IceCheese March 6th, 2012, 07:35 AM Dead as a dodo. :(
Nine years of planning down the drain. Does anyone know when the "rammetillatelse" expires?
3 years from June 14th 2011.
Galro March 6th, 2012, 06:25 PM I sent a mail to ask about it ...
Galro March 26th, 2012, 02:29 PM Som kjent fikk vi godkjent rammetillatelse for bygget i Gullhaug Torg 2A i juni 2011.
Etter dette har vi jobbet både med tekniske løsninger, design av eksteriør og interiør samt innhentet priser.
Dessverre har vi så langt ikke klart å komme opp med løsninger som er gjennomførbare innenfor realistiske økonomiske rammer.
Vi har derfor inntil videre lagt prosjektet på is samtidig som vi vil vurdere andre løsninger for den aktuelle eiendommen.
Fremdrift på dette arbeidet er ikke endelig avklart men vi håper å kunne gjøre noen konklusjoner i løpet av inneværende år.
:cry: Would be sad if it gets scrapped!
marshol March 26th, 2012, 06:01 PM ^^ Got the same mail today, after I asked them looong time ago.
"vil vurdere andre løsninger for den aktuelle eiendommen" is a worrying sentence.
Galro March 26th, 2012, 06:30 PM ^^ My thoughts too. Hope we don't end up with just another boring 5-6 storeys infill thing. :ohno:
Galro December 12th, 2012, 11:39 PM The project have now been removed from Avantor sites:
http://avantor.no/side/Eiendom%20&%20prosjekter/Prosjekter/Nybygg/i.html
I guess this is a sign that they have now completely given up on the building?
dexter26 December 13th, 2012, 12:25 AM Damn... ^^ If so, too bad, 76m, 76m, 76 METER! :D
IceCheese December 13th, 2012, 01:24 AM Probably as dead as a fly.
I don't get it. Apartment prices are on it's highest now. Probably could've gotten better profits now than ever.
marshol December 13th, 2012, 08:51 AM ...and this was approved and all. What a shame. Hoping for another developer here who will build a tower, now that 76m is acceptable for this plot.
Kyll.Ing. December 13th, 2012, 07:38 PM Don't know how credible this is, but this building was featured on a company presentation at NTNU a couple of months back. The presenter from Asplan Viak said it was all approved and ready to be built, but due to the large height compared to the small amount of apartments in this tower, it simply wouldn't be profitable to build and thus was cancelled.
IceCheese December 14th, 2012, 02:40 AM ^^ It makes total sense, I just don't get what changed after the approval. Didn't anyone calculate on this halfway through? There aren't that many buildings that are built of more than 70 meters of height.
Kyll.Ing. December 14th, 2012, 07:16 PM I'm not sure either. It sounds unlikely that they got all the way to the approval stage before somebody said "Wait, will we actually earn money if we build this?"
Either, material/labour costs rose drastically during the planning period, they had miscalculated somewhere, or something unforeseen and expensive got in the way. That's my theories, at least.
Galro April 14th, 2013, 07:01 PM The expected completion date have been removed from Kristin Jarmunds homepage. The project is now said to be a "Design Development" but it is still available at their page, so perhaps there will be some further developments of the concept?
Source: http://kristinjarmund.no/nydalen_logo_tower
Galro April 24th, 2013, 05:55 PM Some picture of a model of what we never got.
http://i.imgur.com/NJP5lvO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L0nhrGa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ddcDORE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CRMg4c1.jpg
Pictures source: http://www.oslomodellverksted.no/detail.php?id=159&kategori=1
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