An article in news daily Koha Jonë mentions of a new project off the coast of Vlora - An Artificial Island that will be inhabited by approximately 100.000 people.
The new island in the shape of a double-headed eagle will be named Skenderbeu Island and is expected to become a major tourist and economic center.:cheers:

Ishulli Skenderbeu, mega-projekti turistik !

Burimi: Gazeta Koha Jone
Nje ishull i ri artificial pritet te ndertohet se shpejti ne zonen prane lagunes se Nartes, ne veri te qytetit te Vlores. Kompania “A.C.M.S” ka paraqitur mesditen e djeshme ne universitetin e Vlores nje mega-projekt per ndertimin e nje ishulli artificial i cili, per shkak te formes se tij, do te quhet “Ishulli i Skenderbeut”. Projekti, qe parashikon ndertimin e nje kompleksi te madh turistik ne det, ne formen e nje shqiponje dykrenore, parashikon celjen e 150 mije vendeve te reja te punes per banoret e qytetit te Vlores dhe rrethinave.
Projekti eshte paraqitur para biznesmeneve, studenteve dhe qytetareve te ndryshem nga presidenti i kompanise, Bajram Murati, me banim ne Australi, Sazan Arshia drejtor i pergjithshem dhe Zariv Dervishi, drejtor departamenti i kompanise. Sipas folesve, projekti i quajtur “Rehabilitimi ambiental, turistik i zones se Ultesires se Vlores dhe krijimi i qendres komplekse dhe ekonomike turistike”, me infrastrukturen dhe sherbimet elitare, ka si qellim ngritjen e nje qendre komplekse ekonomiko-turistike ne bregdetin e Adriatikut jugperendimor.
Sipas drejtuesve, ne fazen e pare projekti do te popullohet nga 100 mije persona, ndersa me pas do te perfshihen edhe 4000-5000 hektare te zones perreth. “E planifikuar te lidhet boten me nje aeroport ujor, projekti do te sherbeje si nje korridor i rendesishem per zhvillimin e turizmit shqiptar, i cili do te jete me vlera te medha ekonomike si per Vloren ashtu edhe per gjithe vendin”, u tha ne takimin e djeshem. Projekti qe propozohet, mbeshtetet ne nje platforme tekniko-shkencore te paraqitur nga studiuesi vlonjate, prof. Niko Pano, e cila trajton nje territor te virgjer te litoralit shqiptar qe shtrihet nga grykederdhja e lumit Vjosa deri ne kodrat e Zvernecit dhe perfshin gjithe pjesen perendimore te Myzeqese se Vlores.

Projekti
Per ndertimin e “Ishullit te Skenderbeut” mendohet se do te impenjohen me shume se 100 firma te njohura ne bote, te cilat do te mbulojne aspekte te ndryshme te struktures dhe infrastruktures. Projekti ende nuk ka nje fature financiare, pasi kostoja e tij mund te ndryshoje ne varesi te punimeve. Ai po behet gati per t’iu propozuar Kuvendit te Shqiperise, nga ku pritet miratimi dhe kalimi i projektit per zbatim, pasi te kaloje rruget institucionale. Sipas drejtuesve te projektit, ai i eshte prezantuar disa muaj me pare edhe Kryeministrit te vendit, Sali Berisha dhe drejtuesve te tjere te shtetit shqiptar, te cilet kane vleresuar nismen. Eneid Hamzai, perfaqesues i Aleances per Mbrojtjen e Gjirit te Vlores, eshte shprehur dje ne takim se ky projekt do te punesoje shume here me shume persona sesa TEC-i dhe Petrolifera, ndersa vazhdimi i ndertimit te tyre rrezikon deshtimin e projekteve te tilla madhore.

Great news!!! I am very excited about this, maybe in time Albania can become the Dubai of the Balkans.

Though I hope this project will not harm the beautiful environment of the Albanian coast.

Location of the new island will be north of the city of Vlora near the hills of Zvërnec. The project has already been presented to the Prime Minister's office and is expected soon to be ratified in the Parliament. It will employ approximately 150.000 people with nearly 100 companies worldwide being involved that will cover the technical aspects of the infrastructure.

Who is the investor?:)

We dont know for sure but i'd expect a large group of investors to finance such a project.
The company (A.C.M.S) that presented the project is a group of albanian businessmen based in Australia.

Interesting! Well, lets hope it gets realized:yes:

It'll take years and major funds to implement such a project but hopefully it can be achieved.:D

Ksamil is too small for tourists

http://www.bandbw.co.uk/Albania_Island260.jpg

And Sazan wouldnt be able to handle that many tourists due to its geological structure

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/88521594_17fd261306.jpg

Wow, that's gonna be cool!

wtf. who believes this crap, maybe my grandkids will see this.

Ambitions, ambitions, ambitions...but nothing else.

Hopefully, in a couple of years, I will be wrong.

Yeah it's a very ambitious plan... it could take decades to implement even if they gather sufficient financial support

from the article it sounds quite serious....hope this will get built!

who needs that?
i think Albania has enough uninhabited coast, so why artificial island?

Why would they inhabit 100000 people on a small island?! I dont get it?! Beside all undeveloped cost, they make a city in some crazy circumstances...

Why would they inhabit 100000 people on a small island?! I dont get it?! Beside all undeveloped cost, they make a city in some crazy circumstances...

Maybe this money will just be used for laundering.

who needs that?
i think Albania has enough uninhabited coast, so why artificial island?

although i dont see anything like this happening because it simply sounds too big - i can see the need for a project like this... "who needs that?" - I bet a project like this would be an interesting tourist magnet - an island shaped as a double headed eagle is pretty extra ordinary... it would for sure put Albania on the tourism map.. The media publicity and spotlight, together with attraction of foreign investors on this project - would make Albania more attractive in general...

Is Albania rich country? Or i missed something in my past life... :-)

Is Albania rich country? Or i missed something in my past life... :-)

You have missed alot... in fact too much.. you will never be able to recover from your retardness..

Is Albania rich country? Or i missed something in my past life... :-)

It doesn't really matter how much money Albania has, it matters how much money investors have.

Still, I think this project is pretty far-fetched. Good luck if it does really happen tho.

Really?! Maybe, if they find investor who will build power plants all over Albania, for 500000 people in new city (if there is 100000 inhabitants, than u have at least 4 times more tourists). Its a huge strategy, and its not very posible in case of Albania.

Really?! Maybe, if they find investor who will build power plants all over Albania, for 500000 people in new city (if there is 100000 inhabitants, than u have at least 4 times more tourists). Its a huge strategy, and its not very posible in case of Albania.

Don't worry about power plants :) When this project is ready we'll have the new Belene Nuke plant built so we will suply them enough electricity :D

Don't worry about power plants :) When this project is ready we'll have the new Belene Nuke plant built so we will suply them enough electricity :D

Hope ur not... As i know how unresponsible jokers Bulgarians are, i doubt this nuke can last long in normal condition... Just hope it wont blow in this direction :crazy2::D:hahaha::D

^^ Well we have been using the Kozlodui NP since 1975 ... and we've been a lot more carefull than many other countries so far :)

Hope ur not... As i know how unresponsible jokers Bulgarians are, i doubt this nuke can last long in normal condition... Just hope it wont blow in this direction :crazy2::D:hahaha::D


That's why it's not far away from Serbia, we just don't care about you :lol:

Really?! Maybe, if they find investor who will build power plants all over Albania, for 500000 people in new city (if there is 100000 inhabitants, than u have at least 4 times more tourists). Its a huge strategy, and its not very posible in case of Albania.

wether this project gets realized or not... however the funny part is you being so jealous and afraid that this project actually might get realized :lol:

WET DREAMS. :lol:

Is Albania rich country? Or i missed something in my past life... :-)

No...but you'r still an idiot. You can't escape that reality...

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This project is BS...

LOL

This is more ridiculous than Berisha's claim that albania will be a leading energy exporter:nuts:

Is Albania rich country? Or i missed something in my past life... :-)

shut up you idiot, it's private investments of course Albania can't afford it

Don't be jealous serbia will never have the possibility to do this...unless they want to build an artificial island on like...a river

Don't worry about power plants :) When this project is ready we'll have the new Belene Nuke plant built so we will suply them enough electricity :D

thank you, free house for you on the island! :cheers: lol

I just noticed that the island will be in the form of a double-headed eagle....neat:)

Why would they inhabit 100000 people on a small island?! I dont get it?! Beside all undeveloped cost, they make a city in some crazy circumstances...

So they have to destroy their coast and build concrete everywhere to have a "developed" coast, rather than make an interesting project that could attract tourists on IT and still preserve a bit more of the wild coast?

WOW, impressive logic :cheers:

Whoever takes this seriously is .... :nuts:

awesome idea, expensive idea as well, lol :D

Whoever takes this seriously is ....


http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1809/4218629409af6.jpg

Padyshiiiim...na kina me e ba ket ish'llin e demokraciiiiis!

So they have to destroy their coast and build concrete everywhere to have a "developed" coast, rather than make an interesting project that could attract tourists on IT and still preserve a bit more of the wild coast?

WOW, impressive logic :cheers:

that's what made me go :nuts:

Whoever takes this seriously is .... :nuts:

why? the same could have been said about the crap that's being built in dubai...but it's happening right?

i know what it is though...stay in dubai, and please, if they DO build this project...don't go there.

You won't like, dubai's leaves are better than Vlora's double headed eagle :ohno:

Whoever takes this seriously is .... :nuts:

It doesn't matter if it's serious or not. People need some dreamy projects, if they don't realise- it's ok it doesn't matter. But if they become reality, it would be great. :)

Whoever takes this seriously is .... :nuts:

Whoever thought a fake city like Dubai would one day built the world's lagest skyscraper was...:nuts:

You guys are so childish. Compared to Albania, Dubai has so many thing going for it, its not even funny.. Of course, we're all hoping these rich Australian-Albanians come and invest:)

You guys are so childish. Compared to Albania, Dubai has so many thing going for it, its not even funny..

of course... Dubai is dubai... but the point is: who would have thought that Dubai would become what it is today - at the time when it was a crappy village in the desert with people riding camels ?

You guys are so childish. Compared to Albania, Dubai has so many thing going for it, its not even funny.. Of course, we're all hoping these rich Australian-Albanians come and invest:)

We have just as much if not more of a potential... our diaspora is strong and the country is experiencing a steady economic growth... nobody here can predict how things will shape up 20 years from now so this pesimistic mentality some people have here is ridiculous.
If we thought and did things like that we'll never progress... of course the major obstacle here is the funding

You know what, I don't think it's for any of us to claim that this will never happen in Albania. No one here or anywhere else in this world knows what the future will bring. However if there is one thing that I do know, it's that those who dream big can achieve more in the long-term than those who just sit around telling others that something is impossible. History has shown this repeatedly.

And for those of you who call yourselves realists because of your inately negative opinions regarding the progress and potentality of this or that country, you are actually just pessimists. I think it's the optimists and dreamers who are more right about the future than the pessimists, simply because they have a vision that pushes the envelope, while the pessimists just base their opinions on what is and isn't within the boundaries today. Albania may be a small developing country, but in 10-20 years it may be a wealthy/advanced nation that's far more attractive to the global trotter and/or business-person than the current tourist/business heavyweights.

And yes, if you told someone 25 years ago that Dubai would become what it is today, they would have looked at you and might have said, "Yeah right, you have just as much of a chance to see the Soviet Union disintegrate and become capitalist within a decade." :tongue:

But what you can think, you can do! It's going to be tough to build this island and find the money, but I know it's possible and I hope Albania makes it happen. :)

doule post

Irrelevant... I would really like that u get such an island, if u like it. Let the kids play in the sand...

You know what, I don't think it's for any of us to claim that this will never happen in Albania. No one here or anywhere else in this world knows what the future will bring. However if there is one thing that I do know, it's that those who dream big can achieve more in the long-term than those who just sit around telling others that something is impossible. History has shown this repeatedly.

And for those of you who call yourselves realists because of your inately negative opinions regarding the progress and potentality of this or that country, you are actually just pessimists. I think it's the optimists and dreamers who are more right about the future than the pessimists, simply because they have a vision that pushes the envelope, while the pessimists just base their opinions on what is and isn't within the boundaries today. Albania may be a small developing country, but in 10-20 years it may be a wealthy/advanced nation that's far more attractive to the global trotter and/or business-person than the current tourist/business heavyweights.

And yes, if you told someone 25 years ago that Dubai would become what it is today, they would have looked at you and might have said, "Yeah right, you have just as much of a chance to see the Soviet Union disintegrate and become capitalist within a decade." :tongue:

But what you can think, you can do! It's going to be tough to build this island and find the money, but I know it's possible and I hope Albania makes it happen. :)

Couldnt have said it better:)

dulgeroff said it really well :)

I would really like that u get such an island

yeah right...:lol:

An article in news daily Koha Jonë mentions of a new project off the coast of Vlora - An Artificial Island that will be inhabited by approximately 100.000 people.
The new island in the shape of a double-headed eagle will be named Skenderbeu Island and is expected to become a major tourist and economic center.:cheers:

:|:sleepy:

Why are you guys hating? Hate the game, don't hate the player!

Why are you guys hating? Hate the game, don't hate the player!

Yeah, I always like it when countries think BIG! Those countries are almost always successful. Though I am reserved about the project, I hope it will be completed soon!

3 pages on a stupid news.

Guys...get real...how do you compare with Dubai?? You can compare with Mongolia maybe...not Dubai.

Get real...stop making fools of us. This is stupid news that only Sali Berisha might invent...

^^ true, cuz dubai has billions of $ to throw around

3 pages on a stupid news.

Guys...get real...how do you compare with Dubai?? You can compare with Mongolia maybe...not Dubai.

Get real...stop making fools of us. This is stupid news that only Sali Berisha might invent...


This is ur first post i agree. Congratulations! :cheers:

I change my mind then...I couldn't possibly agree with an idiot...so it must be the other way around.

why? the same could have been said about the crap that's being built in dubai...but it's happening right?

i know what it is though...stay in dubai, and please, if they DO build this project...don't go there.

You won't like, dubai's leaves are better than Vlora's double headed eagle :ohno:

Kid, grow up first, learn the world, the economics and politics and then give "lessons".

Building the project of this scale is very expensive and it will take long time. It has alot of implications for the country and it will eat a lot of resources (human, material, power). It simply can't be done in Albania


It doesn't matter if it's serious or not. People need some dreamy projects, if they don't realise- it's ok it doesn't matter. But if they become reality, it would be great. :)

Of course it will be GREAT if they can pull it off, the only problem is that chances are close to zero.

Whoever thought a fake city like Dubai would one day built the world's lagest skyscraper was...:nuts:

When Dubai decided to build world's tallest tower it was a very wealthy city, with great infrastructure and established tourism industry. It was already a big trade and commercial centre.

of course... Dubai is dubai... but the point is: who would have thought that Dubai would become what it is today - at the time when it was a crappy village in the desert with people riding camels ?

Of course, but Dubai didn't announced billions of dollars worth of tourism projects when it was a fishing village; it happenend way after that phase.

We have just as much if not more of a potential... our diaspora is strong and the country is experiencing a steady economic growth... nobody here can predict how things will shape up 20 years from now so this pesimistic mentality some people have here is ridiculous.
If we thought and did things like that we'll never progress... of course the major obstacle here is the funding

Excactly: The major obstacle here is the funding and NO private individue or corporation will ever be able to pull such project. Only a very wealthy Goverment with a carismatic and all-power-controlling strong leader can do it. Albania is neither now nor it will become in 20 years.

It's not a matter of pesimism, rather REALISM ... but no problem it will come ... with age.

AltinD

Building the project of this scale is very expensive and it will take long time. It has alot of implications for the country and it will eat a lot of resources (human, material, power). It simply can't be done in Albania

Of course it is expensive. It will have no implications for the country whats so ever, it is quiet the contrary. It will stimulate the tourism industry of the country, and it will eat no resources and again quiet the contrary, it will bring new jobs for the local people, and will bring the unemployment rate down. Who says it cant be done? Your opinion is minsicule and means nothing. What bothers me is that you present your opinion as if it was "the absolute truth"


Of course it will be GREAT if they can pull it off, the only problem is that chances are close to zero.

Again its your opinion....in my opinion i think the chances are much higher than that...where there is a will, there is a way.


When Dubai decided to build world's tallest tower it was a very wealthy city, with great infrastructure and established tourism industry. It was already a big trade and commercial centre.

No one was talking about the tallest center....we were talking about all of dubai in general. I still think that Dubai and Albania can not be compared, but the principle is the same.



Of course, but Dubai didn't announced billions of dollars worth of tourism projects when it was a fishing village; it happenend way after that phase.

again...


Excactly: The major obstacle here is the funding and NO private individue or corporation will ever be able to pull such project. Only a very wealthy Goverment with a carismatic and all-power-controlling strong leader can do it. Albania is neither now nor it will become in 20 years.

You obviously did not read the article....it did not say this was going to be carried out by a single corporation, or company....It stated that this was an initiative by 100 different companies who are willing to make this happen...this only increases the chances of this actually b eing realized

It's not a matter of pesimism, rather REALISM ... but no problem it will come ... with age.

Age has nothing to do with this...there is alot of idiots that never grow out of their problems...regardless of their age

It stated that this was an initiative by 100 different companies who are willing to make this happen

100 different...Albanian...companies.

Stupid projects like this have been announced many times before...from that sham "Illyria Holdings" or whatever it was called of Seidia...to a tunnel to Italy...to casinos on Sazan and whatever other BS.

They'll build this when they build that nuclear powerplant and he gives me my Pentium V...padyshiiiim!!!

^^ My friend READ the article again. those 100 companies were cited to be involved in the planning, design and implementing of the project not financing it.

Sorry, but having seen being build the impossible, knowing and having experienced how things works overhere and overthere, I might be in a better position to judge what might or might not be possible compared to people who see things through a computer screen.

EDIT: Referring to Liburni's post.

It's not a matter of pesimism, rather REALISM ... but no problem it will come ... with age.

There we go again, someone that thinks he can predict the future and therefore calls himself a realist. If you are as mature and educated as you feel, why are you here arguing with us little children? I'm five years old, poor and I know nothing of the world.

Oh Altin...you hit a nerve. Don't wate your energy...this is pointless. There's 1000 times better chance that nuclear powerplant gets build...before this thing.

Being a realist is understanding that while Albania is doing pretty well and doing some great things...that is only relative to what it previously was. Don't go comparing it with things like Dubai...we are that fishing village...and Dubai is NYC. No matter how "optimist" you may be...don't dream up stupid things.

This is about realism as Altin said...for fuc*ks sake this is Albania...you REALLY think something like this can happen...in the next 20-30 years even?? Maybe when the fix the running water to half the country and the electricity...they can think about stupid things like this.

There we go again, someone that thinks he can predict the future and therefore calls himself a realist. If you are as mature and educated as you feel, why are you here arguing with us little children? I'm five years old, poor and I know nothing of the world.

Technical aspects of the project aside, how much do you know about the Albanian politics?

Technical aspects of the project aside, how much do you know about the Albanian politics?

Although this project is as far fetched as they come, what do Albanian politics have to do with anything in this case. This was a stupid project that some company (or better some individuals) presented at a college and the media together with 7t (sorry man, but what were you thinking taking this shit seriously) ran with it.

Technical aspects of the project aside, how much do you know about the Albanian politics?

I likely know more about Albanian politics than you have given me credit for, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this question.

The whole point here is not whether this gets built or not. It's whether you have the ability to predict the potential future of Albania correctly. I don't care how corrupt its economic/political infrastructure may be, nor do I care how little or poor the country is as a whole today. That is of no consequence to me, because I can give you countless examples of things that were considered impossibilities in the past and yet became a reality soon after a smart-ass decided to shed his "realistic" opinion on the rest of the world. See that's the thing, the odds may be overwhelmingly against this project coming to fruition, though they are certainly not nil. You are not an all knowing creature that can say anything with 100% certainty... If you think you can, which seems to be the case, then go away and make a few billion dollars to prove your inate instinct in the realestate development market. When you do that, I'll be glad to discuss impossibilities once more.

I am actually very certain that I know more about business and economics than yourself, as I'm already relatively successful and traveling the world on the income earned from personal investments. I have my own company and I am now making a large investment in Bulgaria. I also have offices in China. That does not give me the ability to make predictions either, and unlike you I'm not doing that, but what it does allow me to do is go toe-to-toe with guys like yourself who think they've got some insight into the REAL world. And yes, I am an optimist and a dreamer who is doing better than all those in my social sphere who told me I couldn't do this or that!

As I said before, I hope this project gets realized... And if it's not this, then I hope some other one just as grand comes to life. Shoot for the starts and you'll hit the moon. That's my philosophy. :)

Ok...but my dic*k is still bigger...so I win.

Stupid discussion...

This was a stupid project that some company (or better some individuals) presented at a college and the media together with 7t (sorry man, but what were you thinking taking this shit seriously) ran with it.

How do you know this?
You're merely making presumptions... did you think two years ago they were planning on building a $2 billion gas plant in Albania?
Did you think 5 years ago Tirana would one day built ten towers in its central axis, a tram network... etc
Of course not. So why do you speak with such conviction then?

Ok...but my dic*k is still bigger...so I win.

Stupid discussion...

Yes, we all know you've got the biggest dick in the world. Afterall, you've told us countless times. But unfortunately for you it means that your dick-head is bigger than your actual head, which makes your comments next to irrelevant.

How do you know this?
You're merely making presumptions... did you think two years ago they were planning on building a $2 billion gas plant in Albania?
Did you think 5 years ago Tirana would one day built ten towers in its central axis, a tram network... etc
Of course not. So why do you speak with such conviction then?

Actually, I could see all those projects going through because they all made sense. This one doesn't. The five towers that you talk about in Tirana made perfect sense since the construction boom there had started since the late 90's. For example, Vodafone tower (although Vodafone is not there anymore) was finished in the late 90's or 2000, and at that time it was the highest building in Albania at 17 stories. The tram network also is not surprising considering the need for public transportation. And actually at this point, Tirana should start thinking of a full blown subway system. Obviously, it won't get built anytime soon, but it's something that will happen sooner or later. This island on the other hand, will never happen. Dhe s'po ta them ne anglisht ketu po dhe ai projekti i gazit dhe trami as qe kane filluar te ndertohen. Le te flasim kur te jene gati, se ajo kompania e gazit nuk ka as website, dhe duket si kompani fantazme.

Projects like this don't happen in democracies. There is a reason why some of the craziest projects right now are going on in China and Dubai. You need a authocratic govt for that. There has been more than one western official who has said that no matter how rich, a country could not do what China or Dubai are doing. There are a million, more important and more rewarding projects that a private company can take on. This project is so freaking expensive that it needs governmental funding.

Look at the plan and you'll understand how ridiculous it is. 100,000 people are supposed to live there, yet even the Palms in Dubai are not that big. And who the fuck would want to live there in the winter? Vlora doesn't have Summer year around, and no one would want to live in a pier in the winter.

Ok, you have some valid points.

Technical aspects of the project aside, how much do you know about the Albanian politics?

They know very little, i am still surprised at the ridiculous optimism of some Albanians. Not sure how often they visit albania, they may have been 3 times in their life and consider themselves experts:lol:
They don't have any clue as to how things get said and done in Albania. No real hands on experience with TENDERS!

Apparently our southern coast is filled with Resorts to the point that it can't handle any more tourists so we have to build a massive Artificial island in a ridiculous shape. This project makes no sense and the company doesn't sound serious. An island the shape of an Eagle?:lol: of the completely undeveloped southern coast.

^^ My friend READ the article again. those 100 companies were cited to be involved in the planning, design and implementing of the project not financing it.

Sorry, but having seen being build the impossible, knowing and having experienced how things works overhere and overthere, I might be in a better position to judge what might or might not be possible compared to people who see things through a computer screen.

EDIT: Referring to Liburni's post.

Of course...how did I not take your 'experience' and 'age' into consideration, you know it all. Your in a better position to make a judgment than i am. Sorry i ever expressed my opinion.....you already gave the absolute answer...therefore there is nothing left to debate.

Ok...but my dic*k is still bigger...so I win.

Stupid discussion...

stfu with ur stupid... trying to be funny posts already

edhe na thua neve qe mos te flasim shqip per gjera te kqia qe po ndodhin ne shqiperi, edhe tani e hap gojen e flet per drita edhe uje...hypocrit

I likely know more about Albanian politics than you have given me credit for, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this question.

The whole point here is not whether this gets built or not. It's whether you have the ability to predict the potential future of Albania correctly. I don't care how corrupt its economic/political infrastructure may be, nor do I care how little or poor the country is as a whole today. That is of no consequence to me, because I can give you countless examples of things that were considered impossibilities in the past and yet became a reality soon after a smart-ass decided to shed his "realistic" opinion on the rest of the world. See that's the thing, the odds may be overwhelmingly against this project coming to fruition, though they are certainly not nil. You are not an all knowing creature that can say anything with 100% certainty... If you think you can, which seems to be the case, then go away and make a few billion dollars to prove your inate instinct in the realestate development market. When you do that, I'll be glad to discuss impossibilities once more.

I am actually very certain that I know more about business and economics than yourself, as I'm already relatively successful and traveling the world on the income earned from personal investments. I have my own company and I am now making a large investment in Bulgaria. I also have offices in China. That does not give me the ability to make predictions either, and unlike you I'm not doing that, but what it does allow me to do is go toe-to-toe with guys like yourself who think they've got some insight into the REAL world. And yes, I am an optimist and a dreamer who is doing better than all those in my social sphere who told me I couldn't do this or that!

As I said before, I hope this project gets realized... And if it's not this, then I hope some other one just as grand comes to life. Shoot for the stars and you'll hit the moon. That's my philosophy. :)



Bravo!! :) Maybe in this case an island would not be built but a bigger project will succeed instead. The southern riveria has clean beaches and its a matter of time before its infrastructure become similar to the one in Greece. They have nowhere to copy anyway.

There are many example of countries who previously were poor and now are advancing such as Ireland. It's hard but not impossible!!

LOL...like a bunch of little kids arguing over nothing...

O kar (s'kam si te theras tjeter)...mos flisni budalleqe qe te mos flas dhe une. Shqiperia s'ka brek ne byth...e ju flisni me presh ne byth.

I don't know why the discussion was "changed" from this specific project proposed for NOW, to what the Albania may become in the future. LOL

LOL...like a bunch of little kids arguing over nothing...

O kar (s'kam si te theras tjeter)...mos flisni budalleqe qe te mos flas dhe une. Shqiperia s'ka brek ne byth...e ju flisni me presh ne byth.

dude arent u 16 yourself?

dude arent u 16 yourself?

16 inches??...yes. 16 years?? no...

Tani do benit mire ta linit kte muhabet...krenohuni kur te behet realitet...jo se leshoj nje pordhe njeri...

16 inches??...yes. 16 years?? no...

Tani do benit mire ta linit kte muhabet...krenohuni kur te behet realitet...jo se leshoj nje pordhe njeri...

Askush nuk ke duke u krenu per asgje...te gjith dham reagimet tona rreth kesaj iniciative. Nuk eshte keq te debatohet per nji projekt te tille, pa marr paraysh a do te realizohet a jo. Edhe ti nuk ke kurrfar te drejte ti thush dikuj tjeter te te mos flas per dicka.

Eshte ironike qe ti gjithmon i quan te tjeret te vegjel, kur n'fakt sjelljet e tua jan nga kjo grup moshe.

I don't know why the discussion was "changed" from this specific project proposed for NOW, to what the Albania may become in the future. LOL

cause this project is in the future...and it's in Albania...

link the two..

and you seem to have a soft spot for dubai...
http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2006/uae-dubai-1950-aerial-view.jpg
theres photo of it before...and look at it now...cities change quick...and dont start with with the same thing you said last time, cause dubai was a small piece of crap that nobody cared about as well, just like Vlore...only difference is Vlore is not a big dessert but mountains with trees and more beautiful nature right along the crystal clear beaches of the ionian sea :banana:

16 inches??...yes. 16 years?? no...

Tani do benit mire ta linit kte muhabet...krenohuni kur te behet realitet...jo se leshoj nje pordhe njeri...

boooo cdo gje qe thua eshte per karin edhe sa te madh qe e ke...sa insecure qe je per zotin. Mire ne do flasim per kte project, ty pos te pelque mos kliko ketu se na cave bolet

I could see this happening in Albania supported by the foreign investors. There is so much potential down there. ANything happenind in Kakome Bay??

I could see this happening in Albania supported by the foreign investors. There is so much potential down there. ANything happenind in Kakome Bay??

Of course it will be built, easy peasy,

Do you guys ever actually stop and THINK, you realise how ridiculous you sound? Is a conceptual project by some students all you need to get a hard on? I mean I have personally designed a bridge that could link Vlora to Bari - you think it's worth starting a new thread on this?

I mean listen to yourself declaring with full of confidence "I could see this happening in Albania" and in the same breath asking the question: Anything happening in Kakome Bay? The latter one is a perfectly decent and fully costed project, however, and in response to yuor question, fuck-all is happening.

It is one thing being proud and patriotic and another thing altogether being an imbecile.

no way! this is way too big for albania

Well this is one thread that we didnt need the usual serb/greek trolls to ruin. This is the albanian bashing on albanian thread.
Let's just say that this project sounded cool but will not happen in the foreseable future and leave it at that, shall we.

Of course it will be built, easy peasy,

Do you guys ever actually stop and THINK, you realise how ridiculous you sound? Is a conceptual project by some students all you need to get a hard on? I mean I have personally designed a bridge that could link Vlora to Bari - you think it's worth starting a new thread on this?

I mean listen to yourself declaring with full of confidence "I could see this happening in Albania" and in the same breath asking the question: Anything happening in Kakome Bay? The latter one is a perfectly decent and fully costed project, however, and in response to yuor question, fuck-all is happening.

It is one thing being proud and patriotic and another thing altogether being an imbecile.

If you took just a few extra seconds to read the article carefully you would come to realise that the bold sentence doesnt make much sense.
This project had already been presented to the Prime Minister's office months prior. Further more, the source of the article is a reputable newspaper in the country and this very same article has also been posted in the Ministry of Environment website.

Is Albania rich country? Or i missed something in my past life... :-)
A country doesn't need money to build an island :)
For instance, Russia plans to build a similar island in Black sea near Sochi.
So, a company from Dubai is going to pay for the construction. More over, after Russia will get 30% of the island free. :)

kur n'fakt sjelljet e tua jan nga kjo grup moshe

Sjelljen e adaptoj per ata me te cilet po diskutoj...po te behet diskutim normal per gjera normale...edhe sjellja ashtu do jet. Po te flitet per presh ne bythe...edhe une per kar do flas.

Prandaj...mos turperoni veten dhe vendin...me budalleqe. Mendoni pak para se te shkruani...

boooo cdo gje qe thua eshte per karin edhe sa te madh qe e ke...sa insecure qe je per zotin.

O kar...s'e kisha fjalen per ty o jo!! Mos ki merak...Po ti e kupton qe po flas me sarkazem?? Nejse e shpjegova me siper...ne kte forum...kur lexoj disa tema...vetem fjala "kar" me vjen ndermend...se per budalleqeq te tilla flitet...sikur ke te besh me kalamaj 14 vjec (dhe mbase ke...nuk e di)

Of course it will be built, easy peasy,

Do you guys ever actually stop and THINK, you realise how ridiculous you sound? Is a conceptual project by some students all you need to get a hard on? I mean I have personally designed a bridge that could link Vlora to Bari - you think it's worth starting a new thread on this?

I mean listen to yourself declaring with full of confidence "I could see this happening in Albania" and in the same breath asking the question: Anything happening in Kakome Bay? The latter one is a perfectly decent and fully costed project, however, and in response to yuor question, fuck-all is happening.

It is one thing being proud and patriotic and another thing altogether being an imbecile.

Kush mendonte qe do ndertonim teleferik nga Tirona ne Dajt?
Kush mendonte qe DO FILLONTE punimi per autostraden e Kukesit?

Kjo tema mbase nuk eshte e vertete, por edhe sikur te jete nuk eshte cudi e madhe. Nuk eshte se po e nderton qeveria.

...and you seem to have a soft spot for dubai...

I don't just have a soft spot for Dubai, I've been living here for the last 8 years.

Kush mendonte qe do ndertonim teleferik nga Tirona ne Dajt?
Kush mendonte qe DO FILLONTE punimi per autostraden e Kukesit?

Kjo tema mbase nuk eshte e vertete, por edhe sikur te jete nuk eshte cudi e madhe. Nuk eshte se po e nderton qeveria.

Jo vetem teleferiku por edhe Autostrada Durres - Morine jane therrime perpara ketij projekti si nga kostot ashtu dhe nga implikimet ne ekonomi, ambient dhe infrastrukture, plus keto projecte kaq madhore ASNJEHERE nuk behen nga privatet. Nuk ka asnje privat qe mund ta perballoje kete financiarisht pavarsisht sa mbeshtetje mund te siguroje nga instritucionet financiare. Implikimet jane aq madhore sa vetem per te marre lejet perkatese do duhen shume vite dhe shume para.

Keto projekte mund ti ndertojne vetem firma gjigande me pronesi shteterore nga nje vend tejet i pasur dhe me deshiren e mire dhe te pa kompromentueshme per progres dhe per te bere emer.

Asgje rreth atij projekti permbush keto kritere.

I don't just have a soft spot for Dubai, I've been living here for the last 8 years.

te lumt une kam jetu ne amerike per 9

^^ Mos kujton se ta kam zili? Aspak ... pastaj ti nuk ke qene as 10 vjec kur ke ikur. :tongue2: :D

Lol..une e kam me te madh...se kam jetuar ne UK rreth 11 vjet :D :tongue2:

Dubai sdo mend qe eshte mrekulli, por nuk jam i sigurte mbi jeten socilale qe behet andej!Mua me pelcen jeta e lire dhe pa ndikimin e normave/rregullave fetare.Gjithsesi, mjafton tu pelceje atyre e jetojne andej.

About this project is not much we can talk about, nor i see the need for such project! Let's take the steps one by one, shall we ;)

Lol..une e kam me te madh...se kam jetuar ne UK rreth 11 vjet :D :tongue2:

Dubai sdo mend qe eshte mrekulli, por nuk jam i sigurte mbi jeten socilale qe behet andej!Mua me pelcen jeta e lire dhe pa ndikimin e normave/rregullave fetare.Gjithsesi, mjafton tu pelceje atyre e jetojne andej.

About this project is not much we can talk about, nor i see the need for such project! Let's take the steps one by one, shall we ;)


well said!

^^ Mos kujton se ta kam zili? Aspak ... pastaj ti nuk ke qene as 10 vjec kur ke ikur. :tongue2: :D

sic tha veriori...une i kam qef te drejtat e mia, atje ne ate shtet mund te kesh pallate edhe ishuj, po te pakten ktu sta presin karin po te shofesh ca goca edhe sja presin goces po mos te vishet ne carcaf ne kok.

Gjithashtu me Shqiperine, te pakten jan shtet normale ne mentalitet

^^ If you two say so :hilarious :rofl:

wow....Its been quite a while since I last saw someone rolling on the floor laughing loudly :D

Look....i can start talking about Dubai and the "great" storyes i've heard from people i work with, who actually visited the city....but i do realise it's pointless and it's not even the right thread.I must admit though, i do like to visite it somtime, and trust me...i would be very lucky to come back without some body parts missing (eg: hand, arm, finger,leg) because i'ts guaranteed i will unintentionally break some of their golden rules :D :cheers:

^^ Seeing that you like it, here it goes again:

:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:

it is the least your post deserves. :yes:

it's what all of your posts deserve when you post in this part of the section

altin te pys dicka, e ke rrit mjekren si ato koqet andej edhe vishesh me pershqira gjith diten? apo vishesh si njeri normal..me rroba

^^ kids ... :rofl:

vdiqe duke qesh...te qeshesh ne shtetet arabe shume te fusin ne tok edhe te hedhin gura ne kok

it's what all of your posts deserve when you post in this part of the section

altin te pys dicka, e ke rrit mjekren si ato koqet andej edhe vishesh me pershqira gjith diten? apo vishesh si njeri normal..me rroba

I wouldnt actually mind to know the answer...sooo...?

Une se "kuptoj" nese thjesht po beni karagjozin e fshatit ne internet apo vertete i besoni xhevahireve qe po nxirrni nga goja?

karagjozi i fshatit? o vlla, jetoj ne ny, qyteti ku jeton ti eshte si fshat i qytetit ku jetoj une :nuts: :lol: une s'po bezoj karagjoz fshati

une nuk besoj qe kto gjera jan "xhevahire" besoj qe jan te verteta...ne cdo foto qe kam nga dubai te njerezve jan vesh me peshqira, edhe e kan mjekren der te gjujt...edhe kto jan fotot qe kan mar vet njerezit arab nga ky forumi

s'kam problem me asnje shtet, po ama kur vjen ketu edhe na can trapin per shqiperine qe ngele duke e shajt, thjesht dua advantazhet e jetes ne dubai, qe ti ngele duke e mbrojt sikur eshte ndonje parajs...ka ndertim...po ca tjeter? jan te zhvilluar ne tru ama njerezit atje apo ne shekullin e 12 po jetojn akoma

(a beson qe kur do vdesim do qim 72 te virgjera? sa nuse lejohesh te maresh atje nu dubai...nja 7 besoj te pakten?)

^^ Sikur te shqueshe per seriozitet ne kete furum, do e meritoje nje pergjigje serioze te atyre qe do te dsh, por meqenese nuk e permbush ate kriter, nuk ja vlen te humbas kohen e te c'rrenjos nga truri idiotesite e ngulitur thelle ne te.

^^ Sikur te shqueshe per seriozitet ne kete furum, do e meritoje nje pergjigje serioze te atyre qe do te dsh, por meqenese nuk e permbush ate kriter, nuk ja vlen te humbas kohen e te c'rrenjos nga truri idiotesite e ngulitur thelle ne te.
at kohe qe e humbe duke e shkru kete....ke pas mundsi te na japesh nje pergjigje te shkurte.....ne kontekstin "po" ose "jo"....nuk humb shum koh....seriozisht me intereson.

^^ Sikur te shqueshe per seriozitet ne kete furum, do e meritoje nje pergjigje serioze te atyre qe do te dsh, por meqenese nuk e permbush ate kriter, nuk ja vlen te humbas kohen e te c'rrenjos nga truri idiotesite e ngulitur thelle ne te.

gjithashtu edhe me pergjigjet e tua, nuk i mar serjozisht me se cdo gje qe thua per shqiperia eshte e keqe edhe cdo gje qe thua per arabt eshte e mire

at kohe qe e humbe duke e shkru kete....ke pas mundsi te na japesh nje pergjigje te shkurte.....ne kontekstin "po" ose "jo"....nuk humb shum koh....seriozisht me intereson.

s'po e pergjigj per nje arsye altini