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1 in 5 people in Canada now foreign-born: census

04/12/2007 10:30:40 AM


The number of foreign-born people in Canada is now one-in-five, an increase of 13.6 per cent from 2001 with the vast majority of them settling in Ontario, according to new census data from Statistics Canada.

CTV.ca News Staff
1 in 5 people in Canada now foreign-born: census

The new data released Tuesday morning focuses on immigration, language and migration trends across Canada.

The director general of the StatsCan census program says "6.2 million people in Canada were born outside of Canada. And that foreign-born proportion of the population is at its highest in 75 years."
"We see their growth rate to be four times that of the Canadian-born population," Anil Arora told CTV's Canada AM.

In the past five years, 1.1 million immigrants have made Canada their home, with most of them settling in Ontario, Arora said.

According to the statistics:

* 52.3 per cent settled in Ontario
* 17 per cent in Quebec
* 16 per cent in B.C.

"Some 86 per cent of all recent immigrants -- these are the people who immigrated to Canada between 2001 and 2006 -- made either Ontario, Quebec, or British Columbia their home," Arora said.

"But we're also seeing some other provinces now certainly benefit from that immigration, so we're seeing some increases in provinces like obviously Alberta, Manitoba, and Atlantic provinces."

And perhaps not surprisingly, almost two-thirds of the nation's foreign-born population settled in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal.

The census data also shows a surge in foreign-born immigrants from Asian and Middle Eastern countries, with those countries striding ahead of immigration from European countries.

Most foreign-born immigrants to Canada in the past five years -- 14 per cent -- were from China. India followed at 11.6 per cent, then the Philippines at 7 per cent and Pakistan at 5.2 per cent.

Those numbers are reflected in language statistics also released by StatsCan on Tuesday. The number of allophones, that's people whose mother tongue is anything but English or French, hit 80 per cent.

But the number of Canadians who can speak both French and English also rose to 17.4 per cent across the country.

Here is a list of the top-five mother tongues in Canada:

* Chinese -- 16 per cent.
* Italian -- 7 per cent.
* German -- 7 per cent.
* Punjabi -- 6 per cent.
* Spanish -- 5 per cent.

Jack Jedwab, of the Association for Canadian Studies in Ottawa, said the numbers are good news for Canada.

"Immigration is crucial in terms of offsetting the demographic dependency that Canada risks facing in the future," Jedwab told Canada AM.

"As the percentage of people over the age of 65 who are not part of the working population grows substantially, we'll need an important critical mass of people working age."

From today's Globe and Mail online. link:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071204.wcensussidewhere1204/BNStory/census2006/home


Where they're from; where they're going

Globe and Mail Update

December 4, 2007 at 9:06 AM EST

The proportion of foreign-born people in Canada has hit the highest level in 75 years, accounting for one in five of the total population, new Statistics Canada census numbers show. The following is a list of where newcomers are from, and where they go once they get here:

Where they're from

58.3%: recent immigrants born in Asia, including the Middle East, making up the largest proportion of newcomers to Canada. This was little changed from the 2001 census. In 1971, by contrast, just 12.1 per cent of recent immigrants were born in Asia.

16.1%: Newcomers born in Europe make up the second-largest group of recent immigrants. Europe used to be the main source region of immigrants -- in 1971, they accounted for 61.6 per cent of newcomers to Canada.
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10.8%: Recent immigrants who were born in Central and South America and the Caribbean have risen from 8.9 per cent in 2001.

10.6%: Immigrants who were born in Africa, also up from 8.3 per cent in 2001.

Where they go

The Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver metropolitan areas were home to more than two-thirds – 68.9 per cent – of the recent immigrants in 2006. In contrast, slightly more than one-quarter of Canada's total population lived in these three areas.

Within the Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver, newcomers tended to live in the central municipalities, but an increasing share of newcomers chose surrounding regions.

A growing proportions are choosing to settle in smaller municipalities too.

Calgary, Ottawa-Gatineau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Hamilton and London are now home to 16.6 per cent of newcomers. That is a greater proportion than in 2001, when it was 14.3 per cent.

Some % from Montréals CMA:

Côte-Saint-Luc: 45.4%
Dollard-Des-Ormeaux: 37.1%
Brossard: 33.4%
Montréal: 30.8%
Westmount: 29.2%
Hampstead: 28.9%
Kirkland: 25.4%
Pointe-Claire: 22.9%
Montréal-Ouest: 22.5%
Hudson: 21.6%
Laval: 20.1%
Saint-Lambert: 13.9%
Senneville: 13.7%
Longueuil: 12.7%
Pincourt: 10.7%
Chateauguay: 10.0%
Vaudreuil-Dorion: 9.1%
Rosemère: 8.0%
La Prairie: 7.7%
Candiac: 7.5%
Montréal-Est: 7.0%
Lorraine: 7.0%
Léry: 6.4%
Deux-Montagnes: 6.4%
Boisbriand: 6.0%
Blainville: 5.4%
Delson: 4.9%
Boucherville: 4.8%
Sainte-Thérèse: 4.2%
Saint-Constant: 4.1%
Repentigny: 4.0%
Terrebonne: 4.0%
Mercier: 3.8%
Sainte-Catherine: 3.6%
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu: 3.4%
Saint-Eustache: 3.2%
Sainte-Julie: 3.0%
Saint-Jérome: 2.8%
Varennes: 2.6%
Mirabel: 2.2%

other Québec cities:

Québec : 4.6%
Trois-Rivières: 2.2%
Saguenay: 1.2%

2/3rds of new immigrants move to Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver.

include 2nd generations and you get a huge part of the population...

"Oh my gosh! It's a Canadian guy!"

"Excuse me sir, but can I have my picture taken with you?"

include 2nd generations and you get a huge part of the population...

In TO, 52% are foreign born while 22% are children of immigrants. So going by this pattern, 1st and 2nd gen immigrants would make up about 30% of the Canadian population.

interesting i guess it's highest in that part of the world although there are countries with far higher foreign population than canada.
it'd be interesting to note the %ge of foreigners in canada not just foreign-born population.

There are other countries with a high foreign born population, but I think these are Canadians who are foreign born. I read that Australia is the only country that has a higher immigrant ratio.

1 in 5 eh? Crazy.
I guess it's different 'up there' whenever I go out east, 1 in every 50 people are visible minorities... here in Windsor it's about 1 in 3.

A few times i've noticed that I was the only white person on a packed subway car. No doubt you can see is visually as well, not just in the stats.

compared to when i was young you are starting to see minorities in place I would not imagine they would be. You go up north and you see some. I remember I went to Newmarket when I was 7 or like 13 years ago (1994) 100% white people. Now you see a much different place.


I went to the Bruce this summer, and I thought it would be white people but it was mostly 90% white people but I saw many Chinese, Indian, Middle Eastern families and I was like damn this is like 300km away from Toronto...

Not saying it is bad, as i am a son of an Immigrant myself..

here's multicultural Vancouver for ya during the Santa Claus Parade last week:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8779/46244993ky9.jpg

I searched up our Australian census data from last year, and was surprised to find that over 22% of Australians are foreign born!

I think Canada takes in many more 'visible minorities' whereas large proportions of Australians immigrants come from countries such as the UK, New Zealand. Recently many more from Africa, the Middle East, and SE Asia though.

Can anyone tell me the proportion of foreign born in boom towns such as Calgary?

I went to the Bruce this summer, and I thought it would be white people but it was mostly 90% white people but I saw many Chinese, Indian, Middle Eastern families and I was like damn this is like 300km away from Toronto...


I'm a long-time "city" guy...Parkdale, so huge diversity and being a WASPY definite minority is just "normal" for me. But I spend a fair amount of time in "Cottage Country" Muskoka, Lake of Bays, etc, and I'm always taken back by just how exclusively "white" the place is. It seems that this is an old-school Toronto tradition thing that has just never caught on with immigrants for some reason. Perhaps it's just the ridiculous cost of it in the last few decades...."cottaging" used to be something the average family could afford in past generations.




KGB

I searched up our Australian census data from last year, and was surprised to find that over 22% of Australians are foreign born!

I think Canada takes in many more 'visible minorities' whereas large proportions of Australians immigrants come from countries such as the UK, New Zealand. Recently many more from Africa, the Middle East, and SE Asia though.

Can anyone tell me the proportion of foreign born in boom towns such as Calgary?
According to the census about 31.4% of Calgary's population is composed of immigrants.

According to the census about 31.4% of Calgary's population is composed of immigrants.
According to the Canadian census, Calgary's figures are:

Total pop.: 1,070,295
Immigrants: 252,770
Percentage: 23.6%

Which census are you referring to?

1 in 5 eh? Crazy.
I guess it's different 'up there' whenever I go out east, 1 in every 50 people are visible minorities... here in Windsor it's about 1 in 3.

I do not wanna sound like an asshole, but what attracts immigrants to Windsor? If I was coming to Ontario, Windsor would be at the bottom of my list considering fragile economy and the fact that the city does not provide the ethnic cultural links that larger communities like TO and Hamilton do.

2/3rds of new immigrants move to Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver.

GM reported that cities like London and Winnipeg are attracting immigrants, that is a very positive step and might dampen the ridiculous population surge in Toronto.

the numbers are still very very high....


it was 100k about 3-4 years ago, don't see it being less then 80-90k now...

I do not wanna sound like an asshole, but what attracts immigrants to Windsor? If I was coming to Ontario, Windsor would be at the bottom of my list considering fragile economy and the fact that the city does not provide the ethnic cultural links that larger communities like TO and Hamilton do.

No offense taken... Windsor is in the shits right now... granted it could be worse.
Maybe they are attracted to the close quarters to the United States?
Windsor has always been an attractive place to come, especially when the Big 3 used to boom over all things. The warmer climate? 45 minutes North you're in the snow belt, and it could blizzard there while we get relativly decent temperatures and rain.
Windsor's ethnic groups are large, and if you're comming from another country, why not move in with your countrymen and women? Toronto is a giant city, I'm sure most immigrants who don't like the big city thing, would choose Windsor for it's smaller city feel?
:cheers:

it matters when my dad came here in 1981 he choose Toronto because Montreal was in decline, Vancouver was no-name back then and he didn't even know what Calgary or Edmonton were.



however things are much different but really its the big 3-4 cities immigrants first come to. If they like it they stay or else they move to Windsor or Kitchener.

Also it depend if a city got an established community or not. For example, many Indian immigrants might choose Toronto because of all the Indian business and support.

yes that was another reason why he came here as well...

really an Indian can come to a place like Brampton and feel at home...

here's multicultural Vancouver for ya during the Santa Claus Parade last week:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8779/46244993ky9.jpg


no offence but lmao

^^ I don't get the joke... what is funny about that pic?

yes that was another reason why he came here as well...

really an Indian can come to a place like Brampton and feel at home...

of course, thats why the big three attract the bulk of first generation immigrants... you go where you can find of your kind so that you can get some help if needed, its basic human instinct.

london has had alot of immigrants for a while now. the students at my elementary and high school were from all over the world. UAE, afghanistan, pakistan, india, china, japan, kenya etc

^^ I don't get the joke... what is funny about that pic?

It's as multicultural as China!

It Beijing in 2008; that explains the little bit of Europeans in there. I would think if you posted a picture of Toronto at any random location, you will see European, Asian, India, Caribbean, and African, Middle Eastern…. etc etc.

It's as multicultural as China!

:hahaha::hilarious:hilarious:okay:

To many multicultural means anything non-white people hehehe...

It's as multicultural as China!How do you know they're from China?

They looked Canadian to me. Not my brand of humour, I suppose.

How do you know they're from China?

I don't, and a couple on the left looked Vietnamese to me? It was a joke. Stop being a hardass.

^^I was sorta joking too, but I hope you got my point.

They looked Canadian to me. Not my brand of humour, I suppose.

:lol:

None the less, it's a gigantic group of Asians, and it doesn't look very multi-cultural at all, it's very specific to Asian people, incase you didn't see clearly.
:cheers:

Is the government offering any incentives to draw immigrants to places that don't get any? Like Whitehorse or something?

Is the government offering any incentives to draw immigrants to places that don't get any? Like Whitehorse or something?

No, those are usually municipal initiatives.

A recent Statistics Canada report indicated fewer immigrants are choosing to come to Thunder Bay and area. Should the city be developing a comprehensive strategy to attract more foreign newcomers?
No (68.8%)
Yes (31.2%)
Total votes: 186

:lol:

None the less, it's a gigantic group of Asians, and it doesn't look very multi-cultural at all, it's very specific to Asian people, incase you didn't see clearly.
:cheers:
Indeed, Asia is such a homogenous place. :|

:lol:

None the less, it's a gigantic group of Asians, and it doesn't look very multi-cultural at all, it's very specific to Asian people, incase you didn't see clearly.
:cheers:So China, Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand, Japan, South Korea... you consider a mono culture? :nuts:

So China, Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand, Japan, South Korea... you consider a mono culture? :nuts:

of course they all speak chinese :lol::nuts:

of course they all speak chinese :lol::nuts::hahano:

Indeed, Asia is such a homogenous place. :|

Well, the differences between Chinese and Japanese or Koreans and Filipinos isn't as great as the differences between Chinese and Namibians or Koreans and Iranians.

Nice try Vid. :)

You guys dug yourselves a hole you can't get out of.

Well, the differences between Chinese and Japanese or Koreans and Filipinos isn't as great as the differences between Chinese and Namibians or Koreans and Iranians.
I'm sure they would beg to differ ;) , and anyways isn't Iran in Asia? :tongue4:

The differences between Poles and Ukrainians or Ojibwe and Choktaw isn't as great as the differences between Poles and Thais or Ojibwe and Tamil.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

Yes, but the difference between Japanese and Chinese is not like the difference between Ojibwe and Choktaw but rather the difference between England and France.

The hole deepens.

im lost

Yes, but the difference between Japanese and Chinese is not like the difference between Ojibwe and Choktaw but rather the difference between England and France.

You mean two distinct cultures with different languages, customs and histories, though linked by a common ancestor? Or, they fought each other and conquered one another frequently?

In the latter case, compare the Ojibwe to the Souix, and the comparison is much better. They even live next door to each other. (Anishnawbe Nation being in NWO and Northern MN, the Sioux being in the Dakotas and parts of southern MB.)

The hole deepens.

Yep.

:runaway:

A 'subtle' suggestion.

The hole deepens.

It's ironic how, especially on this forum, the distinctive identities of certain cultures can be trivialized, yet for others it is unacceptable.

Haven't got a clue what your veiled reference is to, Doc. Likely as not you missed
the drift of my comment entirely.

It's ironic how, especially on this forum, the distinctive identities of certain cultures can be trivialized, yet for others it is unacceptable.

Indeed. To suggest that Scots and Englishmen are the same is the epitome of ignorance. Almost as much a folly as suggesting that the Chinese and Japanese are the same people!!

Indeed. To suggest that Scots and Englishmen are the same is the epitome of ignorance. Almost as much a folly as suggesting that the Chinese and Japanese are the same people!!
Good point, the fact that 60 million people occupying an island less than 500kms across could be comparable to one and a half billion people in an area thousands of kilometres end to end, totally escaped me!

Well, the differences between Chinese and Japanese or Koreans and Filipinos isn't as great as the differences between Chinese and Namibians or Koreans and Iranians.

Thank you vid, for such a simple comment people make too big of deals.
When I look at a Korean, Chinese, Japanese, or Vietnamese person, I associate that person with ASIA. They ALL look simlar.

If that was a group of Europeans, everyone would have the exact same comment.

Does that mean I can get in a hot fuss too?
WELL GERMANS AND FRENCH AND DUTCH ARE ALLLLL DIFFERENT "waa waa" :ohno:

Now take a picture in Lhasa, Tibet of a large group of Kenyans and have a nice day.



End of story.

It's a funny picture, and the post was meant to be funny.

Good point, the fact that 60 million people occupying an island less than 500kms across could be comparable to one and a half billion people in an area thousands of kilometres end to end, totally escaped me!

English people speak English, Scottish people speak Scots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language). Chinese people speak Chinese, Japanese people speak Japanese. Their cuisine is different but shares similarities. Their histories are separate but intertwined.

Perhaps comparing them to the Japanese and Koreans would be better?

My point was, lots of people will admit that there are differences between Japanese people, Chinese people, Korean people, Thai people, Vietnamese people, etc., but no one seems to want to accept that there are differences between English people, French people, Spanish people, Polish people, Norwegian people, etc.

The latter is called "white". The former, when called "yellow", is racist.

It's a double standard.

The English and Scottish are different from each other. The Japanese and Chinese are different from each other. The Spanish and Portuguese are different from each other. And for that matter, the Ojibwe and Cree are different from each other. Grouping Europeans and Native Canadians and Africans is acceptable but grouping Asians isn't?

Haven't got a clue what your veiled reference is to, Doc. Likely as not you missed
the drift of my comment entirely.

Unless you were referring to a construction site, the simple 'hole' metaphor wasn't difficult to grasp.

Anyway, Vid has already sufficiently addressed the topic.

English people speak English, Scottish people speak Scots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language). Chinese people speak Chinese, Japanese people speak Japanese. Their cuisine is different but shares similarities. Their histories are separate but intertwined.

Perhaps comparing them to the Japanese and Koreans would be better?

My point was, lots of people will admit that there are differences between Japanese people, Chinese people, Korean people, Thai people, Vietnamese people, etc., but no one seems to want to accept that there are differences between English people, French people, Spanish people, Polish people, Norwegian people, etc.

The latter is called "white". The former, when called "yellow", is racist.

It's a double standard.

The English and Scottish are different from each other. The Japanese and Chinese are different from each other. The Spanish and Portuguese are different from each other. And for that matter, the Ojibwe and Cree are different from each other. Grouping Europeans and Native Canadians and Africans is acceptable but grouping Asians isn't?
Nobody ever claimed that all European ethnicities are the same and part of a single culture.

If you have a problem with how Statscan makes their pie graphs to show visible minorities, take it up with them. If you want to hyphenate all Canadians with whatever ethnicity they're made up of that's your prerogative, but I stand by the argument that Asia isn't monocultural. It's not even the "same colour" so you couldn't make Asian=Yellow if you wanted to.

Unless you were referring to a construction site, the simple 'hole' metaphor wasn't difficult to grasp.

Anyway, Vid has already sufficiently addressed the topic.

I have learned never to assume that people will grasp simple metaphors. It is surprising how weak people's grasps can sometimes be.

It's ironic how, especially on this forum, the distinctive identities of certain cultures can be trivialized, yet for others it is unacceptable.

Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves. - Carl Jung

The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers. - Carl Jung

Asia isn't monocultural. It's not even the "same colour" so you couldn't make Asian=Yellow if you wanted to.

Exactly the same for Europe. :) And Africa. And the Americas.

Indeed, Asia is such a homogenous place. :|

I'm sure a Chinese person looking at a photo of a Beijing street crowded by French, English, Dutch and Swedish people wouldn't notice a great difference between those people. They would all look like Westerners or Europeans to them, the same way as that photo is of a large group of Asians to us.

I'm sure a Chinese person looking at a photo of a Beijing street crowded by French, English, Dutch and Swedish people wouldn't notice a great difference between those people. They would all look like Westerners or Europeans to them, the same way as that photo is of a large group of Asians to us.

ZOMG You racist!! How dare you deny the Chinese superior race-identification abilities??

ZOMG You racist!! How dare you deny the Chinese superior race-identification abilities??

I too am shocked and appalled.

Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves. - Carl Jung

The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers. - Carl Jung


Can you read my horoscope for me next? Perhaps online palm readings?

I have learned never to assume that people will grasp simple metaphors. It is surprising how weak people's grasps can sometimes be.


So, over the course of your existence, this lesson learned, in addition to "don't stick your fingers in electrical sockets", and "Stephan Harper is responsible for all the world's ills", brings the grand total to three.

ZOMG You racist!! How dare you deny the Chinese superior race-identification abilities??

:lol:

there are at least three koreans in the picture. the small eye and cheek bone tell it away. actually I dont think there are many Chinese in that picture.


http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9143/46244993ky9fk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

why is it so crwoded? i didn't realize Vancouver street is that busy.

^ you're right. Besides Chinese, there are also a lot of Koreans and Japanese people in Vancouver.

Can you read my horoscope for me next? Perhaps online palm readings?

No I cant read your horoscope for you next week. But I predict you will be wrong again!

No I cant read your horoscope for you next week. But I predict you will be wrong again!

What a shame.

Well, I suppose the stars were simply misaligned.

What a shame.

Well, I suppose the stars were simply misaligned.

I certainly do enjoy the comedy you provied for me. I know you mean well! I also enjoy being your teacher! Really you are alot of fun!:cheers: