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safta20 December 6th, 2007, 09:46 AM 4 residential buildings are planned in Liljeholmen (South of Södermalm). The sales of the first flats will start 2009 and people can start moving in to the first tower during 2011 according to JM (the construction company of the project). A fifth tower of about the same length will be built in the wrong direction. That is horizontaly to stop the noise from the railway bridge.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/1335833408_35d3629a21_o.jpg
http://www.sightline.se/uploads/pics/_rstadal1.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1258/1334952237_b03e85411b_o.jpg
http://www.sightline.se/uploads/pics/_rstadal3.jpg
http://www.sightline.se/uploads/pics/_rstadal4.jpg
Links:
JM (http://bostad.jm.se/templates/Project/AboutBuildings.aspx?id=3251&portal=true)
Article SvD (http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/artikel_371496.svd)
Gestaltningsprogram (http://www.sbk.stockholm.se/DP-PLAN/Liljeholmskajen/G_prog_sid_10_19.pdf)
Parzival December 6th, 2007, 12:28 PM They are way to short. 80m would be a good.
Insane alex December 6th, 2007, 04:26 PM Yes and what's taking so long? They were first scheduled to start construction in 2006, if my memory serves me right...
MP December 6th, 2007, 04:50 PM Yes and what's taking so long? They were first scheduled to start construction in 2006, if my memory serves me right...
That's for the lowrise parts of the area. The highrises have always been planned for the 2010s.
But does anyone know the actual status of this project? Because both Wingårdhs and ÅWL Arkitekter have taken down the info on their websites about Kajen 4 and 5 respectively. And does anyone know if Kajen 6 and 7 have even been fully designed yet and by whom?
Swede December 6th, 2007, 05:38 PM I hate when they take down the info. Does it mean nothing, or that they're re-designing things, or that it died months ago??? Tired of the quiet deaths of projects.
Like I've said to a few forumers before the towers should IMO at least match the tallest highrises up on Nybohov (steep, tall hill with commieblock towers and lowrises on it) just across the highway. Not sure exactly how tall that would mean, but if someone uses a browser that isn't IE7 they could find out on the City's website what the height of Nybohov is...
Þróndeimr December 6th, 2007, 08:38 PM If they redesign the towers into a more positive one it will look good, if ever built.
Muthai December 6th, 2007, 09:56 PM The best thing with this project is that the buildings have different designs. Even if they reminds of each other in the volume and place. It'll ve very nice to arrive by train and see this. :okay:
Swede December 6th, 2007, 10:09 PM ^That, to me is a strongpoint of the whole area. More individuality in the buildings than usual in post-war Stockholm areas. I go to school within a 5min walk from there so was by after passing a test on wensday (yay me!). Nothing happening at the site of the towers, but plenty of other buildings going up (and several already done and move-in).
safta20 December 6th, 2007, 11:07 PM The best thing with this project is that the buildings have different designs. Even if they reminds of each other in the volume and place. It'll ve very nice to arrive by train and see this. :okay:
Yepp. But it annoys me that they all are of the same height and placed at the same distances from each other...
Muthai December 6th, 2007, 11:13 PM Yepp. But it annoys me that they all are of the same height and placed at the same distances from each other...
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. ;)
Parzival December 6th, 2007, 11:19 PM Yepp. But it annoys me that they all are of the same height and placed at the same distances from each other...I don't agree. They scince they are placed along the water and are all pretty short. ity would look strange though If they were taller.
Swede December 7th, 2007, 05:54 PM Quoting myself in a fit of narsicism
Like I've said to a few forumers before the towers should IMO at least match the tallest highrises up on Nybohov (steep, tall hill with commieblock towers and lowrises on it) just across the highway. Not sure exactly how tall that would mean, but if someone uses a browser that isn't IE7 they could find out on the City's website what the height of Nybohov is...
The map-thingy works with IE7 now! :D
Apparently the towers on top of Nybohov reach about 60m up too, so the new highrises by the water WILL about match them in total height.
safta20 December 7th, 2007, 09:34 PM ^^They are by the way building new highrises on the top of the nybohov hill right now.
Insane alex December 7th, 2007, 10:33 PM Highrises!? How come I've never heard about that!? :P Do u have a link or source? :)
safta20 December 7th, 2007, 10:35 PM No but I've seen them. They are black and has about the same height as the commies...
Swede December 7th, 2007, 11:54 PM Which means 10-12 floors. I've seen 'em too, nothing to get excited about IMO.
Jonte myra December 8th, 2007, 12:58 AM I saw one of them today, gave me the chills... I hope they put some nice cladding on them because in their present state they scream "I WAS BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES!" :puke:
khaan January 5th, 2008, 11:56 PM I saw one of them today, gave me the chills... I hope they put some nice cladding on them because in their present state they scream "I WAS BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES!" :puke:
Well. They "fit in". Isn't that the way we are supposed to build here? ;)
So tired of that bullcrap. Fit in. NO!
khaan July 24th, 2008, 11:01 PM Got some pics from the PDF:s at the Stockholm city site:
http://www.yimby.se/Publishing/FileStore/509fd158-53dc-47b7-b3bd-f158ccb088c0.jpg
http://www.yimby.se/Publishing/FileStore/83d24140-47d6-489d-9b73-2ff8b410dc0e.jpg
fröding July 24th, 2008, 11:46 PM A little about Liljeholmskajen on the radio:
http://www.sr.se/webbradio/?Type=db&Id=1260028
Boscorelli July 25th, 2008, 12:22 AM ^^
Thanks nice link! Great to hear that the first high rise will start to be built next year but sad to thear that the last one won't be finished untill 2015-16! :(
Found another image I at least hadn't seen before:
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/430/lokalfaktaberghusen2012ak6.jpg
GrammarGrub July 27th, 2008, 03:14 PM Beautiful buildings for a beautiful city, greetings from aussie!
SimsPlanet2 July 29th, 2008, 05:09 PM Looks nice! Nice area!
khaan August 8th, 2008, 05:42 PM I actually think the status for this project should be upated to "DEMO".
They are currently tearing down the old buildings on this site.
safta20 January 9th, 2009, 03:55 PM Here is a picture of the demolition site:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3181674463_969bde868b_o.jpg
K-J N. August 18th, 2009, 01:36 AM A pic taken from the bridge. That's a rather sad looking pile of rubble.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/neopokekun/photos/liljeholmskajen03.jpg
Hasse78 August 18th, 2009, 09:19 AM Looks like they could start construction soon.
Boscorelli August 18th, 2009, 10:55 AM A pic taken from the bridge. That's a rather sad looking pile of rubble.
Yes! :)
And one of the new house is really close to the mountain and it makes one wonder if their is a chance of unwelcome visitors on that roof?
Or perhaps is not as close as it looks on the picture?
safta20 August 18th, 2009, 01:09 PM Yes! :)
And one of the new house is really close to the mountain and it makes one wonder if their is a chance of unwelcome visitors on that roof?
Or perhaps is not as close as it looks on the picture?
Oh yes it's close. It's narrower than a meter between the house and the mountain. And they have windows towards the mountain too!
Hasse78 August 18th, 2009, 04:27 PM Oh yes it's close. It's narrower than a meter between the house and the mountain. And they have windows towards the mountain too!
Is it possible to walk there inbetween? I just got to thinking of gamla stans narrowest alley when I read that. :D
safta20 August 18th, 2009, 05:14 PM Is it possible to walk there inbetween? I just got to thinking of gamla stans narrowest alley when I read that. :D
It is possible to walk in between and it's narrower than Gamla Stan:lol:
Boscorelli November 27th, 2009, 11:31 PM Interesting to read on this politicians blog that JM seem to be responsible for the slow construction of Liljeholmskajen.
Men min förhoppning är att det blir färdigt någon gång. Det finns många som har bott länge i område. Jag får i egenskap av politiker ofta frågor av medborgarna om när området kommer att bli färdigt. Jag hoppas att JM tar sitt ansvar och genomför de planerade projekten i tid.
http://abitdundar.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/liljeholms-kajen-arstadal/
If I understood it correctly the first highrise to go up is this one by Wingårdh but it was such a long time now that it was drawn so perhaps one should hope for a redesign of the building? :dunno:
Kajhus 4
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3756/kajhus4.jpg
Some bad renderings I found:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/860/uju6qmvgq70mfilecmonlys.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2907/8dabsit8q70mfilecmonlys.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7905/6dabsckdq70mfilecmonlys.jpg
I suspect that these ones will be going up before the highrises since the sale of them will start earlier than for the highrises.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/282/2dabsis7q70mfilecmonlys.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7013/gju6qod2q70mfilecmonlys.jpg
And an oldie!
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7172/0a166e7126.jpg
Boscorelli October 29th, 2010, 07:31 AM It's going well for JM right now and I just read that they are about to start several projects and I so hope that this finally is one of them!
On their site it says that sale will start 2010/2011
http://www.byggvarlden.se/nyheter/naringsliv/article2498324.ece
http://www.jm.se/Templates/Projekt.aspx?id=2680
dj4life October 29th, 2010, 12:56 PM Kajhus 4 looks good, i think, however the rest is too omodernt. :)
Boscorelli October 29th, 2010, 01:14 PM ^^
One can indeed hope for some updated version! :)
dj4life October 29th, 2010, 01:22 PM Åh, i always have some possitive hope, anyway. :D
Broda November 17th, 2010, 11:19 AM What has happened? Is Liljeholmskajen still getting built?
Boscorelli November 17th, 2010, 11:21 AM What has happened? Is Liljeholmskajen still getting built?
Nothing new yet! The one who waits will see! ;)
Boscorelli November 20th, 2010, 03:06 PM A small update: Selling start of the first highrise, kajen 4 etapp 1, in januari next year, hopefully construction start too next year then?
The first highrise is the one furthest to the right on the render below.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7172/0a166e7126.jpg
Kajen 4 etapp 1 kommer att säljstartas till JMs VIP-kunder under januari. Passa på och bli VIP-kund redan nu! Som VIP-kund blir du inbjuden till en VIP-visning och får möjlighet att boka dig för en bostad innan de släpps till allmän försäljning
http://www.jm.se/Templates/Projekt.aspx?id=2680
Pierren November 20th, 2010, 08:38 PM A small update: Selling start of the first highrise, kajen 4 etapp 1, in januari next year, hopefully construction start too next year then?
The first highrise is the one furthest to the right on the render below.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7172/0a166e7126.jpg
http://www.jm.se/Templates/Projekt.aspx?id=2680
Great news! I think they won't start build until at least half of the apartments are sold ore booked. But hopefully it it will go fast! I can't wait to see som new renders on the project!
Swede November 20th, 2010, 08:54 PM Awesome news! :)
I actually think they'll start building before half are sold/booked. I'm guessing if the sales start strong enough (and the US economy doesn't crash again) construction will begin fairly quickly.
VECTROTALENZIS November 20th, 2010, 11:44 PM Great news! :)
11433 February 8th, 2011, 05:15 PM Constructionwork on the first highrise will start in september :banana:
khaan February 9th, 2011, 01:39 PM Constructionwork on the first highrise will start in september :banana:
Neat! :)
Boscorelli March 2nd, 2011, 10:18 PM Noticed that the latest renders hasn't been posted in this thread!
Wingårdh Arkitekter
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/9408/kaj1.png
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8495/kaj2.png
Italiano95 March 2nd, 2011, 11:42 PM Someone know when the other highrises will be presented/showed??
Boscorelli March 3rd, 2011, 12:08 AM Someone know when the other highrises will be presented/showed??
I think I read somewhere that the idea is to build one after each other, so when this one is fisished the next one will start.
When it comes to renders it is best to check out the JM site and a good bet is that they update with new ones as sales start for each highrise, but it will probably take a while for the others then.
Wingårdh made this one and they have a lousy site with hardly any updates, but are they behind the other highrises too? I don't know!
MP March 3rd, 2011, 01:26 AM Wingårdh made this one and they have a lousy site with hardly any updates, but are they behind the other highrises too? I don't know!
Kajen 5 used to be listed on ÅWL Arkitekter's website (Awlark) so that's where I'd look for updates.
Would be really lovely if construction could commence soon, and sort of sentimental too. This together with the late Hammarby Entré were the hottest projects to discuss back when I first started using this site, and people were so annoyed that we would have to wait as long as until 2006 before construction would begin! :lol:
Pierren March 3rd, 2011, 09:01 AM Sale of the apartments will start in March, according to JM's homepage
Boscorelli March 3rd, 2011, 10:19 AM Kajen 5 used to be listed on ÅWL Arkitekter's website (Awlark) so that's where I'd look for updates.
Would be really lovely if construction could commence soon, and sort of sentimental too. This together with the late Hammarby Entré were the hottest projects to discuss back when I first started using this site, and people were so annoyed that we would have to wait as long as until 2006 before construction would begin! :lol:
:lol: Long wait untilll 2006! That's funny!
Hopefully when september comes the wait will be over! :)
The economic downturn really did hurt this project, luckily it's going well for Sweden now and for the builder JM! :)
But one wonders if there won't be more uncertain times before all are built and then JM might get cold feet again and some highrises might get delayed yet again! It is really bad that JM are building them all!
And how long does their right to build there really last?
Italiano95 March 3rd, 2011, 07:28 PM This together with the late Hammarby Entré were the hottest projects to discuss back when I first started using this site, and people were so annoyed that we would have to wait as long as until 2006 before construction would begin! :lol:
That made me think of a thing i have wondered for along time, Is it going to be some highrise at Hamarby entré or was it cancelled??
Boscorelli March 4th, 2011, 10:18 AM ^^
Do you mean Mårtensdal 6?
http://www.bergark.se/bergark/images/projekt/storbilder/hame4.jpg
It hasn't been updated on the Sbk site since 2006.
http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/SBKPlanDocuments____3145.aspx#bookmarkE14
But if one reads about Fredriksdal on the Sbk site, then one can read this from december 2009 about Mårtensdal:
I kvarteret söder om kv Fredriksdal arbetar kontoret för att tillskapa en hög byggnad som utgör pendang till Folksamhuset på Södermalm och kommer då utgöra det överordnade gestaltningsmotivet vid entrén till Hammarby Sjöstad.
The office is working on Mårtensdal! :)
I read somewhere that the problem is finding a builder who want to build it, the down turn in the economy stoped this project and not decision making.
Hopefully they will find that builder now that times are much better! :)
http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/SBKPlanDocuments____2869.aspx#bookmarkB15
Italiano95 March 4th, 2011, 12:13 PM ^^ yes that was the one i meant, Nice to hear that it´s not fully canceled because I almost thougt that it would be.:)
Boscorelli March 4th, 2011, 12:41 PM ^^ yes that was the one i meant, Nice to hear that it´s not fully canceled becuase I almost thougt that it would be.:)
Yes it would be so nice if somethiong was to be built there!
But since it's been a while since 2006 I really hope they update the look of it, not that I dislike it or anything but why not update it if you got the chance! :)
Silver Creations March 7th, 2011, 09:28 PM Märkligt! Kv kaninen i Malmö ska bli 18 våningar och 67 m medan höghusen i Liljeholmskajen ska bli 21 våningar men bara 65 m??? Jag vet att kontorshus har högre i tak men kan det verkligen skilja så mycket? :nuts: OF
1708 March 7th, 2011, 09:52 PM ^^ Låter väldigt märkligt! Huset har högst upp dessutom en kant som motsvarar ungefär 2 våningar i höjd (enligt mitt ögonmått). Efter en snabb uträkning blir det (65/23) ungefär 2,8 meter per våning. Jag kan ingenting om byggnadskonst, men borde det inte vara ungefär 0,5m mellan våningarna? Sedan borde butiksvåningen vara något högre i tak än övriga våningar (eller?) och då blir det inte mycket takhöjd i lägenheterna på de där 65 metrarna.
Jag tror och hoppas att huset kommer bli något högre än 65 meter.
Valleman March 7th, 2011, 10:15 PM ^^ Låter väldigt märkligt! Huset har högst upp dessutom en kant som motsvarar ungefär 2 våningar i höjd (enligt mitt ögonmått). Efter en snabb uträkning blir det (65/23) ungefär 2,8 meter per våning. Jag kan ingenting om byggnadskonst, men borde det inte vara ungefär 0,5m mellan våningarna? Sedan borde butiksvåningen vara något högre i tak än övriga våningar (eller?) och då blir det inte mycket takhöjd i lägenheterna på de där 65 metrarna.
Jag tror och hoppas att huset kommer bli något högre än 65 meter.
Sist jag hörde var minsta kravet på taket 2,4m men runt 2,7-3 är rätt normalt. Mellan våningarna borde det vara runt 0,5m ofta lite mindre. Tänker mig 200-300mm btg och en lite isolering på kanske 50mm, någon stegljudsisolering på runt 20mm lite övergolv och sånt på kanske 40mm alltså mellan 290-340 där.
Boscorelli March 7th, 2011, 10:31 PM I know that swede sometimes writes another lower hight than the official height, some comparison method I'm not that familiar with, so perhaps that is what has been done here and perhaps not with the one in Malmö?
Edit:
This is not the case here because the official height is 65 meters.
Boscorelli March 7th, 2011, 10:37 PM Someone know when the other highrises will be presented/showed??
Jag fann det här från september förra året:
Kajen 4 är näst på tur och byggnationen beräknas starta under våren 2011. Det innebär att försäljningsstarten ligger ungefär runt årsskiftet 2010/2011, och att de första inflyttningarna kan ske någon gång under hösten 2012. Därefter är det Kajen 5 som står på tur, ca ett och ett halvt år efter Kajen 4, sen blir det Kajen 6. Brohuset kommer att byggas före Kajen 7 på grund av diverse tekniska skäl.
Nu börjar ju inte byggnationen under våren 2011 utan det blir i september, så lite fördröjning blir det väl, men alla hus ska vara klara 2018!
http://liljeholmskajen.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/liljeholmskajens-utveckling-alla-hus-ska-byggas-klart-2018/
Boscorelli March 7th, 2011, 11:11 PM On this render it looks like kajen 4 used to be kajen 5!
http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/stockholm/0205/06/NYHETER-06s19-liljeholmen-94_368.jpg
So they moved the the location of the building from what was first planned!
I never noticed that untill now!
Ingenioren March 8th, 2011, 12:07 AM Märkligt! Kv kaninen i Malmö ska bli 18 våningar och 67 m medan höghusen i Liljeholmskajen ska bli 21 våningar men bara 65 m??? Jag vet att kontorshus har högre i tak men kan det verkligen skilja så mycket? :nuts: OF
3m for appartmentfloors, but 3,5m for officefloors is the usual.
dj4life March 8th, 2011, 12:15 AM On this render it looks like kajen 4 used to be kajen 5!
http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/stockholm/0205/06/NYHETER-06s19-liljeholmen-94_368.jpg
So they moved the the location of the building from what was first planned!
I never noticed that untill now!
Is this a new render?
Boscorelli March 8th, 2011, 12:28 AM ^^
No the highrise to the closest right is Kajen 4, but on that render the nr 4 highrise which will be built on that spot is located as nr 5 and not 4, so it's an old render showing that they once ment to locate it differently!
The highrises are known as Kajen 4, 5, 6 and 7 and the last building to the far left as Brohuset.
Silver Creations March 8th, 2011, 09:45 PM 3m for appartmentfloors, but 3,5m for officefloors is the usual.
ok, enligt din "våningshöjdstandard" visar beräkningarna för kv kaninen och liljeholmskajen att de blir exakt lika höga (utan de extra metrarna för butiksdel på bottenplan) 63 m
vilket det inte stämmer med annonseringen alls! :ohno: OF
Galro March 8th, 2011, 09:58 PM They have just choosed to stick with higher floors on Kv kaninen that what is really necessary, while they have obviously tried to get floors as low as possible on this one.
Boscorelli March 10th, 2011, 10:34 AM Kajen 5 used to be listed on ÅWL Arkitekter's website (Awlark) so that's where I'd look for updates.
Would be really lovely if construction could commence soon, and sort of sentimental too. This together with the late Hammarby Entré were the hottest projects to discuss back when I first started using this site, and people were so annoyed that we would have to wait as long as until 2006 before construction would begin! :lol:
And now one can read this on the Rosenberg Architect site under news for march updated today or yesterday:
Rosenbergs påbörjar planarbete med bostäder i kvarteret Kajen 6 vid Liljeholmen Stockholm. Beställare JM.
Rosenberg's begin plan work on Kajen 6 at Liljeholmen Stockholm. Client JM.
Ekenstad March 12th, 2011, 07:25 PM Noticed that the latest renders hasn't been posted in this thread!
Wingårdh Arkitekter
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/9408/kaj1.png
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8495/kaj2.png
Very nice but out of the newly built areas in Stockholm this is the biggest failure, it's such a dead neighhbourhood I wouldn't want to live there even if someone paid me to do so. Can Some highrises change that? Hardly but it will look much nicer.
1708 March 12th, 2011, 08:18 PM Is that so? I have never been in that area but i could never think that Liljeholmkajen would be that dead as you described it. A highrise can absolutely change something like that. More people and more stores = More life in an area!
Boscorelli March 12th, 2011, 10:44 PM ^^
Absolutely! The more people that moves to the area the more lively it will get! :)
Pierren March 13th, 2011, 01:41 AM I like Liljeholmkajen and I don't feel it as a dead neighhbourhood. And I would pay a lot of money to live there :)
Boscorelli March 14th, 2011, 04:40 PM ^^
I could especially easy live in one the highrises! Anyday they are built! :)
VECTROTALENZIS March 15th, 2011, 08:28 PM I wouldn't want to live in that highrise because the area is to dense and urban for me to live in. Though I like dense urban areas to visit!
IceCheese March 16th, 2011, 01:06 AM ^^lol
Shifty2k5 March 16th, 2011, 04:00 PM I wouldn't want to live in that highrise because the area is to dense and urban for me to live in. Though I like dense urban areas to visit!
Yeah, I agree, I'm a suburban kind of guy
Boscorelli May 25th, 2011, 06:02 PM Decision taken to continue the planing for Sjövikskajen 5 and stadsbyggnadsnämnden want to look into making the highrises higher. :)
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3298/sjovik7.jpg
Del av kv. Sjövik 5, Sjövikskajen, Liljeholmen/Årstadal
Beslut
Stadsbyggnadsnämnden beslutar enligt ordföranden Regina Kevius m.fl. (M), Björn Ljungs (FP), Christer Mellstrands (C) och Erik Slottners (KD)
förslag:
1 Stadsbyggnadsnämnden beslutar att i huvudsak bifalla kontorets förslag till beslut, samt att därutöver anföra följande:
Det föreliggande förslaget rymmer många kvaliteter och är ett gott exempel på hur staden kan växa vidare. Då kvarteret kommer att få ett mycket attraktivt läge är det också en god idé att skapa så många bostäder som möjligt här. Under planprocessen bör därför möjligheten till att höja de föreslagna husen ytterligare prövas, men med hänsyn tagen till landskapets topografi.
Stadsbyggnadsnämnden finner också att kajstråket inte bara kan, utan skall förbindas med Årstaskogen och det befintliga gångstråket.
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2010-21700
Ingenioren May 25th, 2011, 09:41 PM Unbeliavable!
dj4life May 25th, 2011, 10:04 PM Unbeliavable!
Indeed. Especially after some sad news today. :)
Boscorelli May 25th, 2011, 10:10 PM But I really wonder what they mean exactly?
Do they mean the highrises only as my initial thought was, or do they mean the lowrises or even all of them?
And what about the first one to the right which is already legal and for which construction starts in september?
I don't mind this at all but it is a bit confusing. :)
Valleman May 25th, 2011, 10:10 PM Bra att det finns utrymme att öka våningarna! Måste erkänna att jag är otroligt sugen på att köpa en lägenhet där, synd att ekonomin förmodligen inte kommer tillåta!
Boscorelli May 25th, 2011, 10:19 PM If it isn't about the higher parts then I wouldn't mind having eight highrises there instead! :)
But I suppose it is the highrises too and different height would be nice on them too.
dj4life May 25th, 2011, 10:23 PM If it isn't about the higher parts then I wouldn't mind having eight highrises there instead! :)
Is there a plan to built 8 highrises in that area?
Boscorelli May 25th, 2011, 10:33 PM Is there a plan to built 8 highrises in that area?
No it was me thinking about what the increased height could mean?
Då kvarteret kommer att få ett mycket attraktivt läge är det också en god idé att skapa så många bostäder som möjligt här. Under planprocessen bör därför möjligheten till att höja de föreslagna husen ytterligare prövas, men med hänsyn tagen till landskapets topografi.
Look at the render below:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3298/sjovik7.jpg
Do they mean the highrises only or do they mean the buildings between them too, or only them? If the buildings between the highrises were to go up then there would be eight highrises there. Not very likely perhaps but still.
But what I was thinking was, what's better? 4 highrises that are higher then on the above render or eight about the same height as the highrises already proposed?
I know some would answer to that eight but higher then now! :lol:
I hope I explained what i was thinking better now! :)
dj4life May 25th, 2011, 10:48 PM No it was me thinking about what the increased height could mean?
Look at the render below:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3298/sjovik7.jpg
Do they mean the highrises only or do they mean the buildings between them too, or only them? If the buildings between the highrises were to go up then there would be eight highrises there. Not very likely perhaps but still.
But what I was thinking was, what's better? 4 highrises that are higher then on the above render or eight about the same height as the highrises already proposed?
I hope I explained what i was thinking better now! :)
It is a good question. Maybe a few well designed highrises would look better, yet eight mid-rises could give more urban feel to the place. At the moment the proposal looks good and maybe the place wouldn't look as cozy as it does in the render with a few high buildings. Thank you for explaining your idea. :)
Ingenioren May 26th, 2011, 12:13 AM I wish there would be more different heights and maybe some highrise in 2nd row aswell :)
Vormek May 26th, 2011, 07:22 PM I wish there would be more different heights and maybe some highrise in 2nd row aswell :)
Agreed! A little difference in height would be great! But hey... at least they look different which is perfect! Another "Arenastaden" would be a let down. By they way... these highrises have been approved for a long time. What is going on actually? What's the hold up? Are they scheduled for construction soon?
Boscorelli May 26th, 2011, 07:30 PM Agreed! A little difference in height would be great! But hey... at least they look different which is perfect! Another "Arenastaden" would be a let down. By they way... these highrises have been approved for a long time. What is going on actually? What's the hold up? Are they scheduled for construction soon?
No the coloured ones hasn't been approved.
You can find more below, the last coulered buildings above are only at the starting stage.
Earlier I thought that the first two ones had been aproved but I wonder if it is only the kajen 4 highrise and it's lowrises which has because I think Rosenbergs wrote on their site a month a few months ago that they were drawing on kajen 5 which should be highrise nr 2 from the right.
Edit: checked it up it is Kajen 6 that Rosenbergs are drawing on so the first two from the right are approved then!
Planområdets läge och avgränsning
Planområdet kommer att innefatta del av fastigheten Sjövik 5, kallad ’Kajen’ för att inte förväxlas med andra pågående ärenden inom samma fastighet. De kvarter som ingår är:
Brohuset (Wingårdhs)
Kajen 6 (Rosenbergs)
Kajen 7 (Erséus)
Berghus 3 (Rosenbergs)
Berghus 4 – gemensam bottenvåning med två högre byggnader (Erséus)
Samtliga illustrationer på planer, byggnader, sektioner och vyer i tjänsteutlåtandet
är framtagna av Erséus arkitekter, Rosenbergs arkitekter, Wingårdhs och Nivå
Landskapsarkitektur.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=77225449&postcount=12488
Boscorelli June 23rd, 2011, 01:51 PM Raising the floor height from 21 floors to 24 floors.
No information up yet but keep an eye out on the link below because it has just been strarted and there will be information added of course, don't know when though. :)
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2011-11456
Italiano95 June 23rd, 2011, 03:27 PM ^^ That's some really good news!!
:cheers:
Ingenioren June 23rd, 2011, 09:52 PM Wow!
Vormek June 24th, 2011, 12:14 PM We need construction...! :banana::cheers:
Swede June 24th, 2011, 12:24 PM Niiiice
dj4life June 24th, 2011, 03:29 PM That is great! :)
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 08:50 AM Startpromemoria för planläggning av del av Lagringen K:1 m.fl. i stadsdelen Liljeholmen/ Årstadal (24 lägenheter genom tillägg och upphävande av bestämmelse om våningsantal)
Increasing the height of two of the buildings! :)
Förslaget
En ny tilläggsplan för aktuellt område innebär en höjning av våningsantalet från 21 till 24 våningar, samt mindre justeringar i byggrätten för att överensstämma med projekterad byggnad.
Vy från Södermalm som visar områdets siluett med 21-våningshus. De hus som omfattas av tilläggsplanen är de två som är belägna längst till höger i bilden. (Edit: till vänster)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4444/liljem.jpg
Vy från Södermalm som visar områdets siluett med 24-våningshus. . De hus som omfattas av tilläggsplanen är de två som är belägna längst till höger i bilden. (Edit: till vänster)
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9577/lilje2.jpg
Sammanfattning
Fastighetsägaren JM AB har inkommit med en ansökan om att upprätta en tilläggsplan till Dp 2002-00653A-54, Liljeholmskajen etapp 1, i syfte att öka
våningsantalet från 21 till 24 våningar för de två höga husen i kajkvarter 4 respektive 5. Höjningen innebär en anpassning till angränsande, pågående detaljplanearbete för den sista etappen av byggnation på kajområdet fram till Årstabroarna och ger ett tillskott på 24 lägenheter. Ansökan kan härledas till det beslut som togs i SBN 11-05-14, §12 om att påbörja planarbete för del av kv. Sjövik 5, ’Sjövikskajen’ Dnr 2010-21700-54, då uppdraget att pröva en höjning av föreslagen exploatering gavs. Möjligheter till höjning har undersökts av projektgruppen för ’Sjövikskajen’, i vilken JM ingår, och man har funnit ett lämpligt tillvägagångssätt i att låta de i det tidigare förslaget 21 våningar höga husen bli 24 våningar. En sådan höjning bedöms ge ett tillskott på 24 kvalitativa lägenheter utan att negativt påverka områdets stadsstruktur, övrig bebyggelse, vistelseytor eller landskapets topografi. För att inte få en negativ påverkan på områdets siluett har man dock bedömt det som nödvändigt att även de två höghus som ingår i den laga kraftvunna detaljplanen ’Liljeholmskajen etapp 1’ höjs från idag tillåtna 21 våningar till 24 våningar, därav aktuell ansökan. En höjning av alla fyra höghus möjliggör en bibehållen siluettlinje och ger ett tillskott på nästan 50 lägenheter. Detaljplanen utförs som en tilläggsplan med enkelt planförfarande som upphäver och lägger till bestämmelse om våningsantal för de två höghusen. I tilläggsplanen justeras även de mindre avvikelser i byggrätten som tillkommit under projekteringen av kvarteren.
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2011-11456
Olov August 11th, 2011, 09:57 AM Tycker det ser ut som de två husen till vänster, närmast vägen... :)
Kul med en positiv förbättring (y)
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 10:07 AM Tycker det ser ut som de två husen till vänster, närmast vägen... :)
Kul med en positiv förbättring (y)
The text is from stadsbyggnadskontoret and the plan for the two highrise buildings to the right on the render are already approved, so they are talking about the two defined highrise buildings to the right which the planing is about now, but it sure is confusing! :)
Edit: (Det bidde på engelska) ;)
Divineator August 11th, 2011, 10:08 AM ^^Håller med, ser ju riktigt nice ut om jag får säga det själv. Håll tummarna för att det skuttar upp lite kontorsskrapor i glas i bakgrunden till dessa efteråt!
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 10:19 AM The construction start for this project has been delayed so long but it will finally start in september with the highrise furthest to the right.
But I'm a bit worried! The earlier delay was about the economic down turn and I hope nothing comes up and delays things again.
Although Sweden is doing quite will but Start building the first highrise now please! :)
Pierren August 11th, 2011, 11:49 AM Skickade ett mail till JM och frågade när bygget ska starta och fick svaret "under hösten" :/
Valleman August 11th, 2011, 11:54 AM Skickade ett mail till JM och frågade när bygget ska starta och fick svaret "under hösten" :/
Någon som vet ang säljstart? Eller har du redan sålt rubbet?
michau August 11th, 2011, 12:26 PM The increasing of height is a very good news :cheers:
Någon som vet ang säljstart? Eller har du redan sålt rubbet?
According to their site they are currently selling apartments to "VIP-customers":
Just nu pågår hantering av de förtursanmälda VIP-kunder som före den 17 mars anmälde sin förtur till Kajen 4 etapp 1. Efter behandling av inkomna förtursanmälningar kommer kvarvarande bostäder att släppas till allmän försäljning. I samband med detta kommer även priser och planlösningar att publiceras på webbplatsen.
http://www.jm.se/Templates/Projekt.aspx?id=2680
Svartmetall August 11th, 2011, 12:28 PM Glad to hear that construction will be started in September and that the height will even be increased!
dj4life August 11th, 2011, 01:57 PM This is great! In my oppinion, the only thing that would make it a bit better is a variable height (maybe from 21 to 25/27). :)
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 02:22 PM Vy från Södermalm som visar områdets siluett med 21-våningshus. De hus som omfattas av tilläggsplanen är de två som är belägna längst till höger i bilden.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4444/liljem.jpg
Vy från Södermalm som visar områdets siluett med 24-våningshus. . De hus som omfattas av tilläggsplanen är de två som är belägna längst till höger i bilden.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9577/lilje2.jpg
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2011-11456
I think I have acctually missunderstood things here?
I know believe that this is about geting the two highrisese to the right up to 24 floor just like the two to the left lready has been raised too.
The two to the right are already legal so that is propably what they need to have this extra planing made, while the two to the left have their height and look decided in that ongoing plan.
För att inte få en negativ påverkan på områdets siluett har man dock bedömt det som nödvändigt att även de två höghus som ingår i den laga kraftvunna detaljplanen ’Liljeholmskajen etapp 1’ höjs från idag tillåtna 21 våningar till 24 våningar, därav aktuell ansökan.
So all 4 of them will be 24 floors? Do you guys understand it the same way?
I think what confused me was that the two highrises to the left looks higher.
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 02:50 PM Skickade ett mail till JM och frågade när bygget ska starta och fick svaret "under hösten" :/
I hope that the new plans for adding extra floors won't delay the construction start, I wan't it to be in september as earlier said.
But I suppose they can start in september anyway since getting up to the 3 last floors is some time away? And it is supposed to be finished in Quarter 3, 2013.
Anyway adding the extra 3 floors is a good thing! :)
Extra height approval Quarter 4, 2011. So there is no exhibition which will make it faster, and please don't let anyone appeal it then!
I belive that the possibility to skip the exhibition part is one of the news in the new building law? To make things faster?
Start-PM 3 kv 2011
Samråd 3 kv 2011
Antagande 4 kv 2011
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2011-11456&docview=1#stage2
michau August 11th, 2011, 03:00 PM ^^ Yes, all 4 will be higher, that's how I understand it :)
Maybe, they can start building the low-rise part first to avoid delay...
I took some pics of the area about two weeks ago.
Liljeholmskajen. View from Årstabron:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8278.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8302.jpg
Closer look:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8295.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8296.jpg
It is fascinating how close to the cliff that lowhouse is built. Kajen 4 will be built in front of it:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8309.jpg
Some pics from the cliff:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8313.jpg
This is exactly the place where Kajen 4 will be built:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8353.jpg
Årstabron:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8336.jpg
I met a friend up there :)
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8339.jpg
Down on the street level at the place of Kajen 4:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8375.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8381.jpg
View on the already built buildings, the new ones will be built on the left side of them:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110727_liljeholmen/110727_liljeholmen_8923.jpg
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 03:05 PM ^^
Great pictures!
You're one clever guy! :)
That is probably what they will do, start with the lowrises! :okay:
dj4life August 11th, 2011, 03:08 PM Amazing update, Michau! You do a great job. Actually, the picture with a friend is the most exciting to me. I remember how i was surprised to see many rabits in the streets, but now i see that some other animals can be met, aswell. :)
Even though the area looks good, some of the buildings are run down. Are there any plans to renovate at least a few of them?
Italiano95 August 11th, 2011, 03:11 PM Nice pics Michau! :cheers:
But isn't it that black highrise across the water that they are going to add floors to so it will become higher??
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8353.jpg
:)
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 03:12 PM I didn't know it was possibe to cross that bridge, I thought it was just for trains.
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 03:14 PM Nice pics Michau! :cheers:
But isn't it that black highrise across the water that they are going to add floors to so it will become higher??
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8353.jpg
:)
Yes! :banana:
Equator Arkitekter and Rotstein Arkitekter
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2413/panorama20frn20rsstabro.jpg
Volymstudie över Liljeholmskajen (t.v.) och Marievik (t.h.). Ill. Equator
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1933/lilje.jpg
Earlier post:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=77224309&postcount=12486
michau August 11th, 2011, 03:34 PM Actually, the picture with a friend is the most exciting to me. I remember how i was surprised to see many rabits in the streets, but now i see that some other animals can be met, aswell. :)They are actually quite common in Stockholm, in areas close to bigger forests. :)
Even though the area looks good, some of the buildings are run down. Are there any plans to renovate at least a few of them?I don't know which buildings you mean... Maybe some industrial buildings? All residentials are new.
I didn't know it was possibe to cross that bridge, I thought it was just for trains.
You are 6 years behind your time ;) It is possible since they opened the new bridge in 2005 :)
But I should maybe not laugh so loud, cause I myself discovered just 2 weeks ago that the Tvärbana bridge between Essingen and Alvik is also available for pedestrians and bicycles :D
dj4life August 11th, 2011, 03:39 PM Michau, i had these buildings in mind:
It is fascinating how close to the cliff that lowhouse is built. Kajen 4 will be built in front of it:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8309.jpg
Årstabron:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8336.jpg
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 03:41 PM You are 6 years behind your time ;) It is possible since they opened the new bridge in 2005 :)
But I should maybe not laugh so loud, cause I myself discovered just 2 weeks ago that the Tvärbana bridge between Essingen and Alvik is also available for pedestrians and bicycles :D
:lol:
Yes I'm really behind! ;)
I don't know why but I thought they just built it for the trains! Like the old one I believe.
Now that I know about the possibility to walk over it then it will be great to go there when all the construction of the highrises are underway.
What a nice view! :)
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 03:43 PM Michau, i had these buildings in mind:
They don't look run down on site! :)
dj4life August 11th, 2011, 03:45 PM They don't look run down on site! :)
I meant the ones located on the hill (seen in the first picture) and the ones behind the bridge (seen in the second picture). Aso, the matal structure (a garage?) seen in the last picture doesn't look nice.
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 03:53 PM I meant the ones located on the hill (seen in the first picture) and the ones behind the bridge (seen in the second picture). Aso, the matal structure (a garage?) seen in the last picture doesn't look nice.
Ok I see but those arn't really close. I thought you ment the newly built ones, so I couldn't beive what I read.
I don't know if they will be renovated, it is of course up to whoever it is that owns them.
I do know that some buildings in the first picture or somewhere in that area has become 'Brf' and that they are going to renovate their building or has, but neighbours who havn't changed their rented apartments and buildings to 'brf' didn't like that they had plans to paint their building in another coulour than theirs.
I really like the half circle buildings on the second photo.
michau August 11th, 2011, 03:58 PM Michau, i had these buildings in mind:
Ok, I see :)
Maybe it is the light conditions that make some of the buildings to look run down... On the first pic in the first plane there are just new buildings. In the second plane on the hill there are some very nice "commieblocks" :) They are grey, but have been recently renovated.
On the second pic you can see a completetly different area on the other side of the Årstaviken called Tanto. It consists of excellent "commieblocks" and they are indeed quite run down.
Aso, the matal structure (a garage?) seen in the last picture doesn't look nice.
It will be removed. It stands on the place of a future building :)
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 04:04 PM On the second pic you can see a completetly different area on the other side of the Årstaviken called Tanto. It consists of excellent "commieblocks" and they are indeed quite run down.
Some of the nicest 'commie blocks' there is in stockholm.
But I'm not sure if they even should be called 'commie blocks'?
Anyway they are vey nice and I hope they will be renovated soon! :)
Shifty2k5 August 11th, 2011, 04:12 PM Wow, hela 24 lägenheter i endast två nya våningar, imponerande!
Boscorelli August 11th, 2011, 04:14 PM ^^
50 lägenheter i alla fyra höghusen då, eftersom det här gäller för två av dem.
michau August 11th, 2011, 04:20 PM Some of the nicest 'commie blocks' there is in stockholm.
But I'm not sure if they even should be called 'commie blocks'?
They are the aristocracy of commieblocks :D
And here is a pic of commies in Nybohov (the ones on the hill behind Liljeholmskajen) in better light conditions:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110727_liljeholmen/110727_liljeholmen_8831.jpg
Italiano95 August 11th, 2011, 04:52 PM Wow, hela 24 lägenheter i endast två nya våningar, imponerande!
Skulle dem inte bygga 3 nya våningar?? från 21-24 är det väl 3 eller är jag helt ute och cyklar?
Zebulon85 August 11th, 2011, 08:48 PM Skulle dem inte bygga 3 nya våningar?? från 21-24 är det väl 3 eller är jag helt ute och cyklar?
Seems reasonable. 24 new appartments divided into 3 floors, i.e. 8 appartments per floor.
I'll never forgive the city politicians for their ignorance in not allowing the construction of much higher buildings since IMHO this area is, along with Hjorthagen, an excellent area for this purpose.
Shifty2k5 August 12th, 2011, 01:14 AM Tanto is commieblock indeed, just look at the streetview http://tinyurl.com/3o8hfcu
It's just that we have a lot of commieblocks in Sweden, so we've become very good at distinguishing between good commies and bad commies :)
GoSatta August 12th, 2011, 10:11 AM on dn.se today
http://www.dn.se/sthlm/hoghus-vid-liljeholmen-foreslas-bli-annu-hogre
Boscorelli August 12th, 2011, 11:03 AM ^^
Och debatten rasar i DN's kommentarsfält! :)
GoSatta August 12th, 2011, 11:57 AM inte ens orkat titta på den :) vill hålla mig glad på en fredag ;)
Valleman August 12th, 2011, 12:07 PM ^^
Och debatten rasar i DN's kommentarsfält! :)
Fast det är många som också är positiva vi är inte ensamma :P Många som har negativa tankar vet inte ens vad de pratar om, någon skrev något om bevara området, det är fan en grusplätt..
Boscorelli August 12th, 2011, 01:30 PM ^^
Bevara området? :D En del människor alltså... :nuts:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8302.jpg
Closer look:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8295.jpg
Valleman August 12th, 2011, 02:14 PM Precis, frågan är varför de inte bygger mer lägenheter på sjövikshöjden, hade varit roligat att ha ett torn där :D
Divineator August 12th, 2011, 04:23 PM Nåja, ju högre desto bättre! Väldigt ovanligt att höra ord som "stadsbyggnadskontoret håller med" när det gäller frågor om utökad våningshöjd...
Pierren August 12th, 2011, 04:25 PM ^^ Yes, all 4 will be higher, that's how I understand it :)
Maybe, they can start building the low-rise part first to avoid delay...
I took some pics of the area about two weeks ago.
Liljeholmskajen. View from Årstabron:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8278.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8302.jpg
Closer look:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8295.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8296.jpg
It is fascinating how close to the cliff that lowhouse is built. Kajen 4 will be built in front of it:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8309.jpg
Some pics from the cliff:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8313.jpg
This is exactly the place where Kajen 4 will be built:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8353.jpg
Årstabron:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8336.jpg
I met a friend up there :)
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8339.jpg
Down on the street level at the place of Kajen 4:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8375.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110724_liljeholmen/110724_liljeholmen_8381.jpg
View on the already built buildings, the new ones will be built on the left side of them:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2011/110727_liljeholmen/110727_liljeholmen_8923.jpg
Can't see your pictures :(
michau August 12th, 2011, 05:35 PM Can't see your pictures :(
There was a problem with the server, but it's fixed now :)
Joney August 12th, 2011, 06:05 PM Tanto is commieblock indeed, just look at the streetview http://tinyurl.com/3o8hfcu
It's just that we have a lot of commieblocks in Sweden, so we've become very good at distinguishing between good commies and bad commies :)Are you out of your mind or just ignorent?
Sweden was not part of soviet neither is there a name as "commie blocks" here.
We call them miljonprojekt, miljonprogram or just project. Wikipedia soviet and u will see the list of which countries was part of it.
U are the first one in my life i've encountered beleiving sweden was part of soviet.
dj4life August 12th, 2011, 06:38 PM Of course, Sweden was never a part of the Soviet Union, nor was it a part of the 'Soviet club'. Even if the majority of the seats in parliament (Riksdag) were taken by social democrats, that is not reason to call the country 'socialist'.
I think, Shifty2k5 didn't even mean that there are many "block" buildings in Sweden due to widespread social democracy.
Actually, the '(commie) blocks' were the idea of a French architect. It was somewhat cheaper to build big and not very attractive buildings and the tendency spread aorund the Western world first. Later the style was adobted by the communists in the Soviet Union. As the country was relativelly poor, the style and materials used to build the "commie blocks" were worser than those that were built in the West.
I suppose, Scandinavia has its own style of "blocks" as majority of them are in a better condition than most of the "monsters" built all around the Soviet club. Also, the cold lcimate may the reason why these type of buildings are preferred to 'glassy' ones.
Italiano95 August 12th, 2011, 08:07 PM Let's just say it this way:
Large ugly cheap block houses(also called commie blocks) can be found in nearly every country. Infact I have seen it in every single country I've been to in Europe, even if I just drived through it fast I've seen some so called 'commie blocks', I have also seen many such blocks in both South and North America and in Asia on pictures. So yeah they are pretty usual everywhere!
Please name a country that you seriously belive that there are no 'commie blocks'!
And they shouldn't even be called 'commie blocks' because they are usual in many more countries than the old Soviet, They're just called so because they builded far more of this blocks in Soviet than they did in other countries!
Galro August 12th, 2011, 08:14 PM Please name a country that you seriously belive that there are no 'commie blocks'!
Vatican City.
Italiano95 August 13th, 2011, 01:06 AM Vatican City.
Hahah, the funny thing here is that me myself thought about exactly that country when I wrote that. But then I thought that no one would be so unserious that he would write it. :ohno:
I seriously don't thint that you can count in the Vatican city in that list of real countries with own cities and culture and stuff like that.
I was there myself about exactly 1 month ago and I can say that it's not much of a country!
:)
Boscorelli August 13th, 2011, 03:15 AM Hahah, the funny thing here is that me myself thought about exactly that country when I wrote that. But then I thought that no one would be so unserious that he would write it. :ohno:
I seriously don't thint that you can count in the Vatican city in that list of real countries with own cities and culture and stuff like that.
I was there myself about exactly 1 month ago and I can say that it's not much of a country!
:)
I really dislike the 'commie block' expression. I've probably used it more times then I should have but I'm avoiding to use it, since it is so general and very overused.
Shifty2k5 August 13th, 2011, 07:08 AM Are you out of your mind or just ignorent?
Sweden was not part of soviet neither is there a name as "commie blocks" here.
We call them miljonprojekt, miljonprogram or just project. Wikipedia soviet and u will see the list of which countries was part of it.
U are the first one in my life i've encountered beleiving sweden was part of soviet.
Wait what?
I'm not the one who's out of his mind here...
Insane alex August 13th, 2011, 09:34 AM ^^ + 1
Joney August 13th, 2011, 12:45 PM Wait what?
I'm not the one who's out of his mind here...
What part is that you don't understand? Feel free to explain. :)
Altough miljonprogrammet was built under a mostly social democrats government. It does'nt make it "commies".
If you were using the word in order to state that this is something only found in former soviet union, This is wrong. Housing projects can be found in all western countries especially USA and is really unfair stating this as an Soviet Union idea.
I see now you are from Sweden, then you should probably now the right expression. ;)
Galro August 13th, 2011, 12:56 PM ^^ "Commie" in this instance is used to describe a certain building style that was popular in former "commie regimes". In the same way we use "French renaissance", "Chicago School" etc. to describe a certain buildings style even though it may not always stand France or Chicago.
Joney August 13th, 2011, 12:58 PM ^^ "Commie" in this instance is used to describe a certain building style that was popular in former "commie regimes". In the same way we use "French renaissance", "Chicago School" etc. to describe a certain buildings style even though it may not always stand France or Chicago.
Okey, but in which countries do they use this? In England and USA they say projects, in Sweden we say Miljonprogram or miljonprojekt.
Maybe Norway uses that definition "commieblock"?
I'm just curious because that's a new word for me. :)
Galro August 13th, 2011, 01:01 PM ^^Almost all users here at Skyscrapercity use it. Officially it is the modernism movement but that is used to describe everything built in this area. There are no expression for only "commies" as that don't necessarily have to be part of a social housing project.
Italiano95 August 13th, 2011, 02:46 PM Yea yea, let go back to topic and talk about this project instead!!
Boscorelli August 13th, 2011, 03:16 PM ^^Almost all users here at Skyscrapercity use it. Officially it is the modernism movement but that is used to describe everything built in this area. There are no expression for only "commies" as that don't necessarily have to be part of a social housing project.
It doesn't matter if all use it! Why be like everyone else just because the sake of it?
People use it to desribe something that they find to be ugly and it can basically be anything, it is so overused!
Joney August 13th, 2011, 03:42 PM ^^Almost all users here at Skyscrapercity use it. Officially it is the modernism movement but that is used to describe everything built in this area. There are no expression for only "commies" as that don't necessarily have to be part of a social housing project.
Okey. Thanks for the enlightenment. Almost all? Maybe I should be here more often so I learn all the slangs ;)
Zebulon85 August 13th, 2011, 04:09 PM I read elsewhere that one of the proposed towers will contain a skyrestaurant/bar at the top floor. Is that correct? That would be awesome!
Galro August 13th, 2011, 05:23 PM It doesn't matter if all use it! Why be like everyone else just because the sake of it?
People use it to desribe something that they find to be ugly and it can basically be anything, it is so overused!
Most people use it do describe usually white/gray detached blocks with repeating architectural features. It is faster and easier to just say "commies" which is how most expressions come about. I don't hear many people call buildings like this "commies", but I doubt many find them beautiful:
http://multimedia.dn.no/archive/00161/LB_REC_Moses_Lake___161655c.jpg
http://www.dn.no/forsiden/article1911106.ece
Boscorelli August 13th, 2011, 05:31 PM Most people use it do describe usually white/gray detached blocks with repeating architectural features. It is faster and easier to just say "commies" which is how most expressions come about. I don't hear many people call buildings like this "commies", but I doubt many find them beautiful:
http://multimedia.dn.no/archive/00161/LB_REC_Moses_Lake___161655c.jpg
http://www.dn.no/forsiden/article1911106.ece
That was one of the dumbest posts ever making a reference to that picture! :D
Boscorelli August 15th, 2011, 02:17 AM Kajen 5
The highrise to the right, kajen 4, is said to start construction this autumn by JM but not much has been heard about the highrise next to it wich also is legal.
But today I found on the Sbc bo site that they are planing to sell start the apartments in Kajen 5 during autumn 2012 and it will be finished 2015.
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9577/lilje2.jpg
SBC Bo planerar att säljstarta Kajen 5 etapp 1 under hösten 2012. Inflyttning planeras till våren 2015.
http://www.sbcbo.se/sv/Bostader/Sok-bostad/Stockholm/Stockholm/Liljeholmskajen/Kajen-5-etapp-1/
Silver Creations August 16th, 2011, 10:29 PM Yes! :banana:
Equator Arkitekter and Rotstein Arkitekter
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2413/panorama20frn20rsstabro.jpg
Volymstudie över Liljeholmskajen (t.v.) och Marievik (t.h.). Ill. Equator
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1933/lilje.jpg
Earlier post:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=77224309&postcount=12486
Please NOT this sugarblock! This ugly house needs a thorough facelift because the location is very very strategic! Here, it should be a higher towers which majestically can look out over the surrounding water. A house with a beautiful, lighted spire that welcomes travelers from the south! Yeah :) OF
Boscorelli August 18th, 2011, 02:05 AM ^^
Yeah let's hope for something not so boxy, and it is also just at the starting stage so hopefully it will develope to something nicer, but I don't think anything really high will be built there.
Boscorelli August 18th, 2011, 03:01 PM 2011-08-18 07:00
Idag torsdag väntas Stadsbyggnadsnämnden besluta om att höja fyra hus på Liljeholmskajen från föreslagna 21 våningar till 24.
− För några månader sedan föreslog jag att staden borde gå igenom samtliga planerade nybyggnadsområden för att se om det går att öka antalet våningar. Det skulle vara ett enkelt och billigt sätt att öka antalet bostäder utan att ta ny grönyta i anspråk. Jag hoppas att dagens beslut är en början på en sådan utveckling, sager Erik Slottner.
− Stockholm har en tradition av att bygga relativt lågt. Det kan ha sina fördelar och i många områden är det helt rätt att bygga lågt. Men i flera områden lämpar det sig bättre att bygga högre − inte minst i gamla industriområden. Ett redan högt hus kan också utan större påverkan bli några våningar högre − ett sådant exempel är de fyra höghusen vid Liljeholmskajen, sager Erik Slottner.
− Stockholm har stor brist på bostäder. Alliansen i Stadshuset har höjt ambitionen och lovar att bygga minst 20 000 nya bostäder per mandatperiod fram till 2030. Varje nytt exploateringsområde väcker ofta starka lokala opinioner och tar många gånger grönyta i anspråk. Att se över höjden på redan planerade områden är därför ett bra och effektivt sätt att motarbeta bostadsbristen i Stockholm. Därför är dagens beslut i Stadsbyggnadsnämnden ett viktigt och välkommet beslut, avslutar Erik Slottner
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressroom/kristdemokraterna_i_stadshuset/pressrelease/view/liljeholmskajen-ett-gott-exempel-670997
Vormek August 18th, 2011, 06:51 PM This area could turn out really good. We might even see a nice skyline here in 10 years from now. I'm not asking for much though. Just increase the height of these highrises to 120 - 150 m and demolish some of the surrounding commie apartment buildings and build a 10 lane wide highway close nearby.
Italiano95 August 18th, 2011, 07:30 PM hah, are you trolling or something?
I sort of thought you where serious untill I saw the 10 lane motorway thing :lol:
But I truly think this area will turn out rather nice so we shouldn't complain or whatever you meaned?
:) :cheers:
Boscorelli August 18th, 2011, 08:20 PM Höjningen till 24 våningar gick igenom i stadsbyggnadsnämnden.
http://www.dn.se/sthlm/hoghusen-vid-liljeholmskajen-far-24-vaningar
Italiano95 August 19th, 2011, 12:04 AM ^^ That is some really great news! :) :cheers:
Swede August 19th, 2011, 09:15 AM Good news indeed! :)
Vormek August 19th, 2011, 03:11 PM Höjningen till 24 våningar gick igenom i stadsbyggnadsnämnden.
http://www.dn.se/sthlm/hoghusen-vid-liljeholmskajen-far-24-vaningar
:banana: This cannot possibly be cancelled!!!
Boscorelli August 19th, 2011, 03:21 PM I just hope the world economy doesn't get so bad so the building companies start geting afraid of investing in new construction.
Valleman August 19th, 2011, 03:33 PM I just hope the world economy doesn't get so bad so the building companies start geting afraid of investing in new construction.
Well I cant talk for everyone, but there is a lots of projects comming in at my work, looks likes its still very good times for builders!
Boscorelli August 19th, 2011, 03:37 PM ^^
Nice to hear! :)
The reason why I worry is of course the economic situation in the worls around us and Liljeholmskajen has been delayed before, I just hope it won't happen again that would be too much.
Italiano95 August 19th, 2011, 04:25 PM Well I cant talk for everyone, but there is a lots of projects comming in at my work, looks likes its still very good times for builders!
What do you work with, do you see all the new projects that is getting planned???
Boscorelli August 19th, 2011, 04:51 PM Pictures taken today of the future construction area.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2149/rimg0140i.jpg
And a bonus of the building to the left which might get added floors as seen further below:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6255/rimg0141r.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2413/panorama20frn20rsstabro.jpg
Pierren August 19th, 2011, 06:43 PM I just hope the world economy doesn't get so bad so the building companies start geting afraid of investing in new construction.
The companies will continue construct apartments as long as the interest is low and people still wants to buy new houses. I hope the crises in the world economy wont change that this time.
Valleman August 19th, 2011, 07:01 PM What do you work with, do you see all the new projects that is getting planned???
I'm working whit making construction blueprints, We often start whit project when the "detaljplanering" is done.
Gefle August 20th, 2011, 02:16 AM Cool project, but could allways get even higher :lol:
Im not familiar with the area as such, but is it possible to place some even higher buildings behind these? looks like a hill & road of some sort is there now? would give a much better skyline..
Ladden August 20th, 2011, 03:46 AM This is one of my favourite projects in stockholm atm. And it would be even cooler if they added higher buildings behind Liljeholmskajen in the future.
Silver Creations August 23rd, 2011, 09:44 PM Artikel i tidningen Mitt i. Lägg märke hur tidningen förgäves försöker få höjningen av husen som något fult och negativt men får bara positiv gensvar från de tillfrågade! :) OF
http://epaper.mitti.se/edoris?tem=epaper_misl#
Boscorelli August 23rd, 2011, 10:07 PM ^^
De där lokal tidningarna är nästan alltid ganska negativa mot all stadsutveckling tycker jag och det är synd för de når en himla massa människor och skapar säkert negativ opinion ganska lätt, tyvärr.
Skrapebook August 24th, 2011, 02:50 PM ^^
De där lokal tidningarna är nästan alltid ganska negativa mot all stadsutveckling tycker jag och det är synd för de når en himla massa människor och skapar säkert negativ opinion ganska lätt, tyvärr.
Pöbelpack! :bash:
Olov August 24th, 2011, 03:14 PM Beror väl på att somliga journalister vill hellre skapa opinion än att rapportera om opinion... eller?
Silver Creations August 24th, 2011, 09:49 PM Beror väl på att somliga journalister vill hellre skapa opinion än att rapportera om opinion... eller?
ja, men då är det verkligen dags att skapa opinion mot gamla synsätt och visa att attityden förändrats genom åren! :nuts: OF
Boscorelli August 24th, 2011, 10:52 PM Beror väl på att somliga journalister vill hellre skapa opinion än att rapportera om opinion... eller?
Kommer ihåg att jag en gång läste att Jan Guillo tänkte bli advokat men han insåg snart att man kunde påverka och förändra saker mycket mer om man blev journalist.
Det gäller ju naturligvis inte alla journalister.
Boscorelli August 27th, 2011, 02:52 PM Startpromemoria för planläggning av del av Lagringen K:1 m.fl. i stadsdelen Liljeholmen/ Årstadal (24 lägenheter genom tillägg och upphävande av bestämmelse om våningsantal)
Vy från Södermalm som visar områdets siluett med 24-våningshus. . De hus som omfattas av tilläggsplanen är de två som är belägna längst till höger i bilden. (Edit: till vänster)
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9577/lilje2.jpg
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2011-11456
Another render although small. And I think this one is also with the increased height added?
Rosenberg arkitekter
http://www.byggvarlden.se/incoming/article3238098.ece/BINARY/original/Liljeholmskajen_bron_468.jpg
Boscorelli August 29th, 2011, 12:06 AM The increased height plan reaches the planing stage today:
Samråd 2011-08-29 - 2011-09-26
Start-PM 3 kv 2011
Samråd 3 kv 2011
Antagande 4 kv 2011
Vy från Årstaberg visar att utsikten från höjden nte påverkas av den föreslagna höjningen då utblickarna mellan husen bibehålls.
Den röda streckade linjen symboliserar 21 våningar. Huset längst till vänster i bilden ingår i aktuell tilläggsplan, de övriga två i pågående
plan ’Kajen’.
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1933/lilje.jpg
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2011-11456
Boscorelli August 29th, 2011, 01:50 PM A larger render then posted earlier and one render without the red marks.
Rosenberg Arkitekter
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6797/96541703.jpg
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9420/35115290.jpg
The more detailed highrise (kajen 6) is the one Rosenberg are working on.
http://www.rosenbergs.se/projektarkiv/bostader/liljeholmskajen/#
Italiano95 October 14th, 2011, 03:14 PM Första spadtaget för det första höghuset har tagits
:banana::banana:
Ett spadtag för "Stockholms nya svarta"
Idag tar den internationellt erkände arkitekten Gert Wingårdh, tillsammans med JMs VD Johan Skoglund och Susanne Lindh, Stadsbyggnadsdirektör i Stockholms stad, ett första spadtag inför produktionsstarten av etapp ett av Kajen 4; Stockholms kanske mest spektakulära höghus - klätt helt i svart metall och med runda balkonger som sticker ut.
- Kajen 4 är ett projekt att vara stolt över, säger Johan Skoglund, VD på JM!
Gert Wingårdh är arkitekten bakom Kajen 4, som ligger mitt på Liljeholmskajen i Stockholm. Här låg tidigare Vin & Sprits gamla produktionslokaler. Projektet är uppdelat i två etapper varav den första utgörs av ett 21 våningar högt designhus. Förutom den svarta metallfasaden kännetecknas höghuset av de utstickande balkongerna från vilka man har utsikt i alla väderstreck. Totalt i bägge etapperna uppförs här 170 lägenheter om 2 till 5 rum och kök.
Intresset för det vatten- och citynära boendet har varit stort; cirka en tredjedel av de 105 bostäderna i första etappen är bokade bland JMs VIP-kunder redan innan de släppts till försäljning till allmänheten.
Kajen 4 är ett lågenergihus med låga uppvärmningskostnader och minskade koldioxidutsläpp. Huset håller näst högsta energiklass, med en beräknad energianvändning på 79 kWh/m2 och år, enligt JMs nyligen lanserade energiklassningssystem. Det kan jämföras med Boverkets krav på 110 kWh/m2 och år.
Inflyttning är beräknat till slutet av 2013.
Produktionsstarten av den första etappen kommer att redovisas under det fjärde kvartalet, 2011.
För ytterligare information kontakta:
Björn Olsson, projektledare JM: 08-782 89 03
Tomas Eriksson, pressansvarig JM, 08-782 86 61
JM är en av Nordens ledande projektutvecklare av bostäder och bostadsområden. Verksamheten är fokuserad på nyproduktion av bostäder i attraktiva lägen med tyngdpunkt på expansiva storstadsområden och universitetsorter i Sverige, Norge, Danmark, Finland och Belgien. Vi arbetar också med projektutveckling av kommersiella lokaler samt entreprenadverksamhet, huvudsakligen i Storstockholmsområdet. JM ska i all verksamhet främja ett långsiktigt kvalitets- och miljöarbete. Vi omsätter cirka 10 miljarder kr och har cirka 2 200 medarbetare. JM AB är ett publikt bolag noterat på NASDAQ OMX Stockholm, segmentet Mid Cap
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8103/75564302.jpg
:cheers: :)
http://www.cisionwire.se/jm/r/ett-spadtag-for--stockholms-nya-svarta-,c9163853
Boscorelli October 14th, 2011, 03:32 PM ^^
It must be said that this was on september 20th that the official start was made with Wingårdh and the builder, but I han't been to the area to see if they have acctually started ground work, has anyone been there? But great that it was posted because no one had, perhaps no one even noticed it? :dunno:
Boscorelli October 31st, 2011, 01:36 PM Has anyone been out there?
I was thinking about going out there this week to take some pictures but if nothing is going on yet then it would save me the trip.
The symbolic start of Kajen 4 was as said in september with Wingårdh himself there but it is of course not the same as an acctual construction start.
Wingårdh Arkitekter
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8103/75564302.jpg
Bardamu October 31st, 2011, 04:00 PM I was there a couple of days ago and nothing has really started...yet.
Boscorelli October 31st, 2011, 04:22 PM ^^
I see! Thanks then I don't have to go out there for nothing.
I hope the real construction start is soon.
Pierren October 31st, 2011, 04:50 PM Åkte förbi med tåg för ett tag sedan och som sagt har inget direkt arbete börjat än men man håller på att etablera på arbetsplatsen.
Boscorelli October 31st, 2011, 06:24 PM Åkte förbi med tåg för ett tag sedan och som sagt har inget direkt arbete börjat än men man håller på att etablera på arbetsplatsen.
Jag ser väldigt mycket fram emot det här så jag är rätt otålig nu. :)
Silver Creations November 1st, 2011, 11:08 PM Inget än, men en och annan traktor höll på och forsla bort grus från byggplatsen. Fotot taget 31 okt. OF
http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr316/reseskildringar/liljeholmen2.jpg
Boscorelli November 2nd, 2011, 09:17 AM ^^
Att en och annan traktor befann sig där låter ändå hoppfullt! :)
Valleman November 2nd, 2011, 07:27 PM ^^
Att en och annan traktor befann sig där låter ändå hoppfullt! :)
Såg hela 2st traktorer jobba där i morse :-) men antar att det är mycket förberedelser innan det börjas bygga på riktigt
Boscorelli November 3rd, 2011, 01:07 PM The increase from 21 floors to 24 floors is on the approval stage and today one could read that only one person protested against the increase, but he didn't live in the area so his views are noted but since he doesn't live in the area I think it works like this that they never took notion off it.
Under samrådet har 14 yttranden inkommit. Samtliga remissinstanser tillstyrker planförslaget/ har ingen erinran. En övrig privatperson, ej boende i området, är negativ till höghusbebyggelse på platsen i allmänhet.
Then this looks really good for not geting any appeals after the approval! :)
Valleman November 6th, 2011, 03:44 PM Pictures from yesterday (11-11-05) The first signs of construction! :) reinforcement, and insulation :)
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5923/dsc05168os.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dsc05168os.jpg/)
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6843/dsc05169i.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/dsc05169i.jpg/)
Boscorelli November 6th, 2011, 03:55 PM ^^
Great!
Something is happening, but I wonder what they are doing on the first picture? It is not located, as fas as I can tell, where the first highrise (Kajen 4) is going to be built.
Valleman November 6th, 2011, 04:04 PM ^^
Great!
Something is happening, but I wonder what they are doing on the first picture? It is not located, as fas as I can tell, where the first highrise (Kajen 4) is going to be built.
I am also wondering this, maybe its something for a crane?
Pierren November 6th, 2011, 04:15 PM En gissning är att de kommer placera byggbodar på stålkonstruktionen och kunna ha parkering under. Har sett flera liknande lösningar vid Liljeholmskajen förut. Men lite lågt ifrån själva arbetsplatsen så jag vet inte :S
Boscorelli November 7th, 2011, 10:08 AM ^^
Det kanske är för byggnaderna bakom byggnaderna längst kajen. Fast jag hade ingen aning om att de var på gång. Annars så är väl platsen den för den sista byggnaden på kajen.
Boscorelli November 14th, 2011, 03:56 PM Kanske att verklig produktionsstart är på gång nu? Och inte bara den symboliska produktionsstarten som var i september.
Det här laddade JM upp idag på Mynewsdesk:
2011-11-14 13:11
Stockholms kanske mest spektakulära höghus - klätt helt i svart metall och med runda balkonger som sticker ut.
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressroom/jm_ab/image/view/kajen-4-etapp-1-liljeholmskajen-101698
iSthlm January 8th, 2012, 04:10 PM From the Stockholm & Projekt blog by Bosco:
Nya illustrationer som b.l.a visar ett av de planerade höghusen vid Liljeholmskajen.
Arkitekt är Erséus Arkitekter och byggherre är JM.
Kvarteret kommer att innehålla ett av de fyra planerade höga husen längs kajen samt ett bakomliggande kvarter med bostäder samt lokaler i befintliga bergrum.
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1992/42362375555261659851325.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8053/81632576919834336171325.jpg
Hafnia January 8th, 2012, 05:08 PM ^^^^ Wauw, like the proportions..
Vormek January 9th, 2012, 12:06 AM Please start construction!
Rulza January 9th, 2012, 06:53 AM Wow!
Skrapebook January 9th, 2012, 07:07 PM Ser ju riktigt lovande ut! :eek:
iSthlm January 9th, 2012, 10:18 PM Ser ju riktigt lovande ut! :eek:
Yes and check the number of floors :)
Italiano95 January 9th, 2012, 11:39 PM Ser ju riktigt lovande ut! :eek:
Kan jag hålla med om! :banana: :)
:cheers:
iSthlm February 23rd, 2012, 06:02 PM Kajen 6
New pictures that I haven't seen of the highest building of the four, the 26 stories high Kajen 6 and its surroundings:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/917/97906812.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/636/63371881.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2603/kajen4.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9985/kajen2.jpg
Aktuellt förslag har ett ökat våningsantal för de högsta byggnaderna från 21 till 24 respektive 26 våningar sedan start-PM. Ca 600 nya bostäder med lokaler i bottenvåningar inom utvecklingsområdet Årstadals östra del.
Planen är framtagen av stadsbyggnadskontoret genom Susanne Werlinder och Josefin Westerlund, planarkitekter, med hjälp av Anne-Marie Wallbom, karttekniker.
Vectoor February 24th, 2012, 09:12 AM Ehm, I recommend using imgur.com in the future. Simple, free, no registration required, they take big images and best of all the images are never removed.
Aerithia February 24th, 2012, 02:20 PM Bilderna funkar inte :c
Boscorelli February 24th, 2012, 02:39 PM I posted them four days ago:
http://stockholmprojekt.blogspot.com/2012/02/sjovik-5-del-2-kajen.html
And with even more renders then just four.
Hasse78 February 24th, 2012, 07:37 PM ^^
Great project and also great work with your blogg Boscorelli :okay:
khaan February 26th, 2012, 07:15 PM You can also post images at yimby.se :)
Silver Creations February 26th, 2012, 10:04 PM Restaurang med skybar på 26:vån, en riktig höjdare för Bimbyträffar! Kajen 6 kommer nå nära 90 meter om jag inte räknat helt galet och om det blir av förstås! Great! :) OF
http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr316/reseskildringar/kaj6.jpg
Joney February 29th, 2012, 05:43 PM Någon mer än jag som lagt märke till ett trendbrott?
Nämligen att man både väljer olika utseende och olika höjd. Så vitt jag vet finns det inget exempel på det utöver detta i Sverige. Norra station tycks också gå denna väg och hoppas även nya djårgården gör detsamma.
Mycket positivt att de som styr insett hur viktigt det är med detta när man bygger klusters för att få en mer livlig arkitektur och därmed miljö.
Synd bara att denna insikt inte tagits efter genom arenastaden där de 5 höghusen är identiska.
Zebulon85 May 2nd, 2012, 06:40 PM I don't know if these Rosenberg pictures already have been posted:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9579/66611894.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3736/111fz.jpg
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9861/18790376.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/673/91315877.jpg
I just love the highrise with the spectacular-view-restaurant!
Svartmetall May 2nd, 2012, 07:17 PM Well, if they have been posted before I don't remember them, so thank you for posting! They look really good!
Joney June 12th, 2012, 11:32 PM I know peab is building kajen 4. But which company is bulding the rest?
Muthai June 12th, 2012, 11:57 PM I know peab is building kajen 4. But which company is bulding the rest?
I Thought that JM was the only builder in Liljeholmskajen, except for the public owned builders (Familjebostäder, etc.)
Valleman June 13th, 2012, 07:33 AM I Thought that JM was the only builder in Liljeholmskajen, except for the public owned builders (Familjebostäder, etc.)
Thats correct.
Swede June 13th, 2012, 06:31 PM I really like the vertical lines in the facade on those Rosenberg renders, they accentuate the height in a subtle way.
Pierren April 2nd, 2013, 10:01 PM Nya renderingar på kajen 5. Bara jag som tycker det är lite för likt kv lusten? Fast det ser sämre ut tyvärr, typiskt JM.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qMbfe-UB_jQ/UVsymsfS8cI/AAAAAAAAQdY/0Ue2sNr2uso/s1600/untitled.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DGCG2gTtHNY/UJ_fOAbMDiI/AAAAAAAAHco/X9wzywyxTPs/s640/kajen_5_2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dY3iR7atyxE/UJ_fPHY4yqI/AAAAAAAAHcs/9jUjmFVbfZk/s640/kajen_5_3.jpg
Från http://stockholmprojekt.blogspot.se/
Svartmetall April 2nd, 2013, 10:09 PM ^^ Yep, I can recognise the JM style from a mile away. Doesn't make it unpleasant, though.
dj4life April 2nd, 2013, 10:12 PM I don't know why, but this whole project reminds me of Rotterdam. It is cool to see some tall living houses being built on the waterfront. :)
dj4life April 3rd, 2013, 12:09 AM Some time ago I collected information about the highrises that are/will be constructed at Liljeholmen and made a short description of each. This post can be a brief sum up of already known information about the highrises:
Name of the project: 'Liljeholmskajen';
Location: Liljeholmen, southern part of Södermalm island;
Purpose: new residential area in Central Stockholm;
Developers: 'JM (http://www.jm.se)', 'Wingårdhs Arkitektkontor', 'Åwl Arkitekter', 'Rosenbergs Arkitekter', 'Erséus Arkitekter';
Special features: a project of a new residential district in Central Stokholm is under development; 1000 new flats will be built in the attractive area of the city (on southern part of the Södermalm island, near the lake Mälaren); the majority of the apartments will be 4 located in 4 highrises: Kajen 4, Kajen 5, Kajen 6 and Kajen 7 (4 x 21-24-26 a.) and some smaller buildings with cafes, restaurants and shops (Sjövikshöjden 4, Sjövikshöjden 5, Berghus 3, Berghus 4, Brohuset) will be built nearby; the project is friendly to the environment;
Start of construction: 2008;
End of construction: 2018/2019;
Price: -;
Status: under construction;
More information: JM (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/);
Visualisations/Maps/Images:
http://i.imgur.com/tjXntUa.jpg?1
Source: Liljeholmskajen - illustrationskarta över projekten (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/) (PDF document)
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/jEBBww4.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/WGH0Xyh.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
Some smaller buildings that have already been constructed:
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/kPkl8X7.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
Kajen 4
Location: Liljeholmen;
Purpose: residential building;
Developers: 'JM', arch.: 'Wingårdhs Arkitektkontor';
Specific features: a building of 24 floor with 183 flats; environmentaly-friendly project;
Start of construction: 2011;
End of construction: 2013 IV-th quarter;
Price: -;
Status: under construction;
More information: JM (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/);
Visualisations:
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/JLllsEr.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
Kajen 5
Location: Liljeholmen;
Purpose: residential building;
Developers: 'JM', arch.: 'Åwl Arkitekter';
Specific features: a building of 21 floor with 183 flats; environmentaly-friendly project;
Start of construction: 20-;
End of construction: 2015;
Price: -;
Status: planed project;
More information: JM (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/);
Visualisations:
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/jWHWziO.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
The latest visualisations can be seen here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=101873204&postcount=218).
Kajen 6
Location: Liljeholmen;
Purpose: residential building;
Developers: 'JM', arch.: 'Rosenbergs Arkitekter';
Specific features: a building of 26 floors with 190 flats; a panoramic restaurant on the top floor; environmentaly-friendly project;
Start of construction: -;
End of construction: -;
Price: -;
Status: planed project;
More information: JM (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/);
Visualisations:
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/Hv3yGVQ.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
More visualisations can be seen here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=91004871&postcount=212).
Kajen 7
Location: Liljeholmen;
Purpose: residential building;
Developers: 'Erséus Arkitekter', 'JM';
Specific features: a building of 24 floors with 160 flats; environmentaly-friendly project;
Start of construction: -;
End of construction: -;
Price: -;
Status: planed project;
More information: JM (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/);
Visualisations:
(c) erseus.se (http://www.erseus.se/viewNavMenu.do?menuID=9&oid=493)
http://i.imgur.com/q8s1qI0.jpg?1
Source (http://www.erseus.se/viewNavMenu.do?menuID=9&oid=493)
(c) erseus.se (http://www.erseus.se/viewNavMenu.do?menuID=9&oid=493)
http://i.imgur.com/uzvEuv9.jpg?1
Source (http://www.erseus.se/viewNavMenu.do?menuID=9&oid=493)
Brohus
Location: Liljeholmen;
Purpose: residential building;
Developers: 'JM', arch.: 'Wingårdhs Arkitektkontor';
Specific features: a building of 16 floors with 150 flats; environmentaly-friendly project;
Start of construction: -;
End of construction: -;
Price: -;
Status: planed project;
More information: JM (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/);
Visualisations:
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/iZBp3Hq.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
All the highrises together:
http://i.imgur.com/0Jl8ump.jpg?1
This is an old visualisation of the project that gives an idea of the possible outcome after the construction work is done
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/7vLdMIS.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
(c) jm.se (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
http://i.imgur.com/Nk0Yu92.jpg?1
Source (http://www.jm.se/bostader/sok-bostad/stockholm/stockholm/liljeholmskajen/liljeholmskajen-omradesinformation/)
Svartmetall April 3rd, 2013, 12:13 AM Nice addition! Really puts the development into perspective. Nice work.
dj4life April 3rd, 2013, 12:30 AM Nice addition! Really puts the development into perspective. Nice work.
Thank you. I also added more information about whole the project in the previous post. Hope, you don't mind that that the post is of a larger sze now. :)
datoriprogram April 3rd, 2013, 12:54 AM I don't know why, but this whole project reminds me of Rotterdam. It is cool to see some tall living houses being built on the waterfront. :)
True!
And thanks for the summation. It made me appreciate this project so much more :)
dj4life April 6th, 2013, 11:01 PM I created an international thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1610746) dedicated to this project. It is large enough and interesting to follow. Hopefully, Liljeholmskajen will be more known internationally. :)
Silver Creations April 21st, 2013, 12:58 PM Kajen 4 bakifrån, nu 9 våningar. Bilden tagen igår (20/4)
http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr316/reseskildringar/IMG_0694_zps267c4091.jpg (http://s495.photobucket.com/user/reseskildringar/media/IMG_0694_zps267c4091.jpg.html)
dj4life April 21st, 2013, 01:51 PM Det ser najs ut. Tack för foton. :)
knasboll April 21st, 2013, 09:49 PM Brohuset looks great, a really distinctive building. Liljeholmen is a quite exciting part of the city right now. I remember when it was still mostly industrial buildings along the watrfront and a run-down area around the station.
bolg April 21st, 2013, 11:04 PM Brohuset looks great, a really distinctive building. Liljeholmen is a quite exciting part of the city right now. I remember when it was still mostly industrial buildings along the watrfront and a run-down area around the station.
Agreed, they've managed very well to blend residential buildings with the area's industrial heritage.
I'm just hoping that it'll take the next step and go from 'inner suburb' to inner city. It's time for all the new developments to start contributing to the city's cultural landscape.
knasboll April 22nd, 2013, 12:53 PM Agreed, they've managed very well to blend residential buildings with the area's industrial heritage.
I'm just hoping that it'll take the next step and go from 'inner suburb' to inner city. It's time for all the new developments to start contributing to the city's cultural landscape.
I guess that's always the problem in Stockholm. The water seems to be a difficult barrier to pass, most of the things built outside "malmarna" seems to become more or less suburbian in design and function. I think it's also a problem with the mindset of the people living in Stockholm, nothing outside the traditional core of the city is considered to be "in" the city. It's definitely a problem considering how many people live in Stockholm and how small the inner city is.
And I completely agree with you, it's time for more areas to become a part of the inner city. Hopefully they can accomplish this in Norra Djurgårdsstaden and Hagastaden. At least that seems to be the ambition.
Skrapebook April 22nd, 2013, 01:12 PM Exakt!
Stockholms innerstad måste växa vidare åt alla håll!
bolg April 22nd, 2013, 06:26 PM I guess that's always the problem in Stockholm. The water seems to be a difficult barrier to pass, most of the things built outside "malmarna" seems to become more or less suburbian in design and function. I think it's also a problem with the mindset of the people living in Stockholm, nothing outside the traditional core of the city is considered to be "in" the city. It's definitely a problem considering how many people live in Stockholm and how small the inner city is.
And I completely agree with you, it's time for more areas to become a part of the inner city. Hopefully they can accomplish this in Norra Djurgårdsstaden and Hagastaden. At least that seems to be the ambition.
I think one of the answers is alcohol. The politicians need to make it easier to open bars with a 3 am permit in residential areas, otherwise every area will more or less be a pitstop for Stureplan (and the few other places with a 3 am permit) which people won't want to visit unless they live there. This is a problem even within the tolls where vibrant areas like Rörstrand/St Eriksgatan and Söfo are completel deserted come 1 am. Imo this wouldn't just attract people to the areas, it would also allow for a more diverse nightlife.
Italiano95 April 22nd, 2013, 07:01 PM And I completely agree with you, it's time for more areas to become a part of the inner city. Hopefully they can accomplish this in Norra Djurgårdsstaden and Hagastaden. At least that seems to be the ambition.
Well I have good hopes for Hagastaden and the västra Kungsholmen development, because they are connected to the inner city in a good way! Although I would really like to see Norra djurgårdstaden as a vibrant part of the inner city I have a hard time seeing that it actually will become that! Mostly because it isn't connected to the rest of the inner city in the same way. I think they need to build city on Gärdet first!
Otherwise I'm really looking forward to the development of Västra City! :cheers:
Valleman April 22nd, 2013, 07:59 PM Progress so far
2012-07-25
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4188/img2783custom.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/img2783custom.jpg/)
2013-04-21
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1227/img4389custom.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/img4389custom.jpg/)
knasboll April 22nd, 2013, 09:08 PM I think one of the answers is alcohol. The politicians need to make it easier to open bars with a 3 am permit in residential areas, otherwise every area will more or less be a pitstop for Stureplan (and the few other places with a 3 am permit) which people won't want to visit unless they live there. This is a problem even within the tolls where vibrant areas like Rörstrand/St Eriksgatan and Söfo are completel deserted come 1 am. Imo this wouldn't just attract people to the areas, it would also allow for a more diverse nightlife.
That might be one of the things that could contribute. A friend of mine lives in Hammary sjöstad which is at least an attempt to create a more city-like neigbourhood, but I'm honestly not impressed with the shops and restaurants there. Sure, there are a few decent places to eat, but like you say most places close quite early and it feels like most people move on to Södermalm or other parts of the inner city during the evening. It shouldn't be impossible to build a few night clubs there, especially not since a few restaurants have their own buildings (Restaurang Göteborg and Texas Long Horn).
Also, in my opinion it's a bit strange to move into the city, or inside an urban area, and then make demands that restaurants close early and that there be peace and quiet. I would think that half the point of moving to a city block would be to have some city life and sounds around you. Because I know that many times the people living in these areas are very negative towards having restaurants and bars that are open until late.
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