WARSAW | "Kulczyk" Tower | 282m | Pro

[Metal]

At first it seemed like a joke, but even the investor confirmed it and says in a few days will be talking to the city to get all the permits.
Here it is, the design isn't final, maybe it will stay like this, maybe it will be completely different, the construction should start in 2009 and will be finished in 2011(everything in Poland is being built before Euro2012 lol), at least 300mln euros, probably(that's what the investor says) will be alot more.
It will be the tallest building in Poland(taller than Wroclaw's Sky Tower, hehe) and one of the tallest in Europe:

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika/74212,93005,9.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/4740/z4740328X.jpg

[Gatsby]

they might not get permission to build this high in that place, so I think the thread is premature...

[Paul]

:deadthrea

[R@ptor]

Warsaw is really booming these days. One of my favorite designs for the city so far.

they might not get permission to build this high in that place, so I think the thread is premature...

Why shouldn't they? Is there an airport close by?

[krzysiu_]

Construction start in 2009 and will be finished in 2011. :cheers:

[potipoti]

i like the design, near the center of warsaw

[Second City]

Awesome, awesome and even more awesome. I hope that they don't change the design or height of it.

[Getysz]

this investment is not sure yet, so i don't know why metal posted it

[Second City]

^^
Because it is amazing!

[alejoaoa]

Very nice!

[krzysiu_]

this investment is not sure yet, so i don't know why metal posted itYou're wrong tho...chyba nie oglądałeś dzisiaj cnbcbiznes ;)

[Metal]

Why i posted it? Cuz i think our international friends would like to see what's going on, Pro in the thread's title means PROPOSED and that's what it is, proposed by the investor, we just have to wait and see if the city approves it, but knowing that it's a liberal(politicly) city council and they have always been very enthusiastic about skyscrapers in Warsaw i'm very positive.

Seeing the replies alot of people like it and i don't know what harm there is in posting that.

Im just sad that there are only 18m missing to make it the first polish supertall

PS krzysiu co bylo na cnbcbiznes bo mnie bardzo zaciekawiles?!?

[Insane alex]

Nice one!

[Second City]

...chyba nie oglądałeś dzisiaj cnbcbiznes ;)

Can you post a link to it?

[Phobos]

Cool tower.It reminds me of a XXI century version of BOC in Hong Kong :D

[PwnedByASkyscraper]

I like this tower. It'll be a nice "tallest in Poland" building.

[Marco Polo]

I so hope it will be built!!
Thanks for posting it.

[mako22]

This is what the mix of Taipei 101 and BoC looks like. :nuts:
Keep fingers crossed

[Assurbanipal]

Cool design! It is similiar (IMO) to excellent Bank of China in HK - one of my favourite towers.

[Mati-PL]

Very nice, but this isn't centre of Warsaw, isn't it?

[www.sercan.de]

now if this one will get permission than i do not understand why they do not allowed a +200m Plot44 (Liebeskind one) one

[Tygrys]

now if this one will get permission than i do not understand why they do not allowed a +200m Plot44 (Liebeskind one) one

But Złota44 actually gets permission.:)

Złota44 will be 192m tall (not +200m) ;)

[Paul]

Very nice, but this isn't centre of Warsaw, isn't it?
nope. it's on the border between Wola and Ochota districts. Near Zawiszy Square.

[decapitated]

nope. it's on the border between Wola and Ochota districts. Near Zawiszy Square.
Well, for me it's very close to the center

[Rook Dio]

Thans for making this Thread. This building will be constructed so people need to see it here.

[Metal]

now if this one will get permission than i do not understand why they do not allowed a +200m Plot44 (Liebeskind one) one

Zlota already got the permission, just a few days ago, we hope the construction starts in spring. I never heard of a 200m+ version of Zlota44, i've always heard about 192m.

[LordChaos80]

Great tower that will improve Warsaw's fine skyline even further. btw: it pretty much reminds me of a proposal in Wuhan. Check urself:

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8969/whtdb05qn9.jpg

[Tygrys]

^^Looks quite similar.

Could you post a link to that Wuhan's tower thread?:)

[Fallout]

This is definitely awesome news, but i'll wait with cheers till it's confirmed.

[Cracovia]

the investor has applied for planning permission so its looking up...up to 282m

[NorthPole]

^^ Wow, grows with rate of 1m/day. I hope they will not get permission now and will try some month later (would be supertall then) :lol:

Very nice, but this isn't centre of Warsaw, isn't it?The tower is said to be built here (http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=52.226288&lon=20.990775&z=16&l=0&m=a&v=2), only 600m from the city core, vis a vis the Millennium Plaza Tower (116m high).

[Locke]

WOW! Amazing Tower! Great height as well. 282m in Europe is massive.

First class stuff. Warsaw *has* to build this.

[Locke]

WOW!!! A Stunner for Warsaw! 283m:banana::banana:

From the Polish thread:
http://images32.fotosik.pl/71/f372082d0c2bf2be.jpg

[www.sercan.de]

Zlota already got the permission, just a few days ago, we hope the construction starts in spring. I never heard of a 200m+ version of Zlota44, i've always heard about 192m.
I thought zlota would have been +200m, but the they knowed that they would not get permission

[Locke]

Polish Kulczyk To Build Highest Skyscraper in Europe
7 December 2007 - Polish News Digest
:cheers:

Polish investmnet company Kulczyk Holding plans to build in Warsawa the tallest skyscraper in continental Europe whose construction, estimated at 1.0 bln Polish zloty ($399 mln/273 mln euro), is to start at the end of 2009, it was reported on December 7, 2007.

The skyscraper will be 282 m high, or almost 24 metres higher than Commerzbank Tower, located in Frankfurt, Germany, which ranks first in terms of height in Europe. The building will be constructed in high-end Wola neighbourhood on a land plot owned by Kulczyk. The project is to be implemented by Kulczyk Holding's subsidiary Kulczyk Holding Chmielna Development.

Kulczyk Holding has asked the world's best architects to cooperate in the construction of the skyscraper, which is expected to become a Warsaw landmark, Kulczyk Holding corporate communication and international relations director Jaroslaw Sroka, said on December 6, 2007 in a press release.

The project, to be financed 9.0 pct by Kulczyk Holding and 91 pct by a bank consortium, is to be completed in two years from its launch.

[www.sercan.de]

it would have been the tallest
Still, lets hope it will get approved

[witu102]

awful;/I don't like the design at all;/

[Peter The Great]

I have a feeling that this is far from the final design.

[BMXican]

and thank god for that. let's wait and see what these famous architects are going to design. I hope it will be as elegant as zlota 44.

[Metal]

it would have been the tallest
Still, lets hope it will get approved

If it would stand high and proud right now it would have been the tallest in Europe, but in 2011 it will be the third or fourth :(

I also think the design will be totally different, i would like someone like Calatrava or Piano here.

[Cracovia]

err it will still be incredibly tall, and as Leszek Czarnecki (investor in sky tower wroclaw) said building "building Skyscrapers is not a race"!!!!! Im sure something 300+ will follow next year, Also the Warsaw municipality is spending a record $2bn on investments next year!!!!!!!!!

[m4rcin]

it's not bad at all!

[Fallout]

If this building would be getting narrow with height, the design would look much better. something like Torre Cristal in Spain

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Torre_de_Cristal_(Madrid)_04a.jpg/250px-Torre_de_Cristal_(Madrid)_04a.jpg

[cheeps]

Chicago needs something this dynamic and fresh! All I can say is WOW!

[LukDos]

Keep my finger crossed for this to be builed....will see it from my home window :).

[Cracovia]

Keep my finger crossed for this to be builed....will see it from my home window :).

Make sure your neighbors dont complain that it blocks their sunlight!!!!!!:nuts:

[Chimer]

If it would stand high and proud right now it would have been the tallest in Europe, but in 2011 it will be the third or fourth :(


More likely it would be 5th or 6th...
Still interesting design...

[Kailyas]

Wow. impressive and futuristic design. Go Warsaw!

[Darhet]

http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/TOWER_PRZEKROJ_A-A.jpg
http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/aleje_jerozolimskie.jpg
http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/TOWER_p_mieszk_36.jpg
http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/TOWER_p_hot.jpg

[Energy2003]

^^ looks like there would be space for one more tower next to the railway ?!

or would this be to near to the Kulczyk Tower ?

[New_To _This_City]

Very nice design, hopefully Warsaw can take wroclaw's highest building crown!!! It deserves it!!! :)

[krzewi]

very nice design up warsaw up !!!!

[Locke]

Love it, very powerful tower!

Nice height to width ratio as well makes it appear very graceful.

[Cracovia]

The tower mext to it Warta tower also belongs to Kulczyk and i read an article in polish newsweek that he is looking to get into some serious bisness in Poland and abroard, apparently it is his ambition to be one of europes most influencial bisinessmen. Recently he has just been sitting on his $5bn raking the intrest so hopefully he does something usefull with it now!!

[Locke]

Huge Skyscraper for Warsaw
12 December 2007 - Warsaw Voice

A company controlled by tycoon Jan Kulczyk plans to build a 280-meter, 68-story skyscraper containing a hotel, offices and apartments in downtown Warsaw, in what would be the tallest building in continental Europe.

The building, the cost of which is estimated to be over zl.1 billion, would be located near Zawiszy Square, between Chmielna Street and Jerozolimskie Avenue. Construction is expected to start in late 2009 and end in 2011.

The site and the adjacent Warta Tower office building belongs to Kulczyk Holding. The investor in the project is Chmielna Development, part of Kulczyk Holding.

Chmielna Development said the planned skyscraper would have a usable floor space of 81,000 sq m. The company has applied to the Warsaw municipal authorities for a building conditions decision.

Most of the building's usable floor area will be designated for apartments and a hotel section. The topmost stories will be occupied by over 300 apartments. A hotel with at least 200 rooms will be situated below them. The largest hotels, such as the Hyatt, Hilton, and Marriott, are likely to be interested coming on board such a prestigious project.

The building will be designed by Andrzej Wyszyński along with Dorota Borysiewicz and Andrzej Piłatowski of MWH Architekci. The firm designed Warsaw's second tallest office building, the Warsaw Trade Tower (formerly the Daewoo headquarters) as well as the Big Boy apartment building in Gdańsk.

The building, whose base level will be in the form of parallelogram, will "rotate" every 15 stories so that every section is a mirror reflection of the one below. From above the building will look like an octahedron. The sides of the skyscraper will visually consist of triangular-shaped facets. "It will reflect light and the sky differently, which will give a variegated effect while at the same time allowing for a uniform building form to be maintained," said Wyszyński.

The investor wants to extend nearby Miedziana Street to Jerozolimskie Avenue in cooperation with Polish State Railways (PKP), which would make it possible to build a platform over the nearby rail tracks to create a general access public space. PKP has not confirmed this information, however.

The new building's roof will be around 260 meters above ground. Together with its crowning spire, it may reach 282.4 meters. That is higher than any other skyscraper in Europe at the moment. However, it will not be the tallest skyscraper for long. Plans are underway to build the London Shard skyscraper, and the Paris Phare office building, which will be over 300 meters. Meanwhile, the 600-meter Russia Tower is planned for Moscow. But it is not know when these three projects will be completed.

Warsaw has recently seen a flurry of ambitious high-rise projects. Several weeks ago Israel's Lilium Company submitted an application for building conditions decision for a 257-meter building at the intersection of Jerozolimskie and Jana Pawła II avenues, next to the Marriott Hotel. Several weeks ago, the FSP Arcus studio asked the City Hall to give preliminary approval for a 110-meter skyscraper on military land between Jerozolimskie Avenue and Nowogrodzka Street that is earmarked for sale.

Among skyscrapers planned in Poland, the highest will be the 258-meter Wrocław Sky Tower. Work on it is expected to finish in 2009 or 2010. The building is being constructed by the LC Corporation, a company of Leszek Czarnecki, one of the wealthiest people in Poland.

[warpus]

[B][SIZE="+2"]Polish investmnet company Kulczyk Holding plans to build in Warsawa the tallest skyscraper in continental Europe

What about Moscow's Federation Tower?

[Cracovia]

i dont think the journalist counts Moscow in Europe..maybe he means EU

[mbuildings]

stunning building!!!!

[Gamma-Hamster]

If it would stand high and proud right now it would have been the tallest in Europe, but in 2011 it will be the third or fourth :(

Hmm, lets see:
Russia Tower 612m
Federation Tower 360m
Mercury Tower 380m
Eurasia 305m
City Hall 308m
City of Capitals 284m
Millenium Tower 350m
Bishopgate Tower 288m
The Shard 310m

[Cracovia]

Hmm, lets see:
Russia Tower 612m
Federation Tower 360m
Mercury Tower 380m
Eurasia 305m
City Hall 308m
City of Capitals 284m
Millenium Tower 350m
Bishopgate Tower 288m
The Shard 310m


someones a little spitefull!!!!! U Really know how to piss on someones bonfire

[WMS]

Very nice design, hopefully Warsaw can take wroclaw's highest building crown!!! It deserves it!!! :)

Wrocław doesn't have this crown :)

[zaha h.]

Great! Warsaw and Moscow, these cities will have the best skyline in Europe in 10 years!

[Woonsocket54]

Moscow already has the best skyline in Europe

[TwItCH]

Moscow already has the best skyline in Europe

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Good One! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Woonsocket54]

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Good One! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

What's so funny? It's a really nice skyline with Kremlin towers, Stalin Sisters and modern corporate spires.

[Blok]

^^there are some impressive towers(Stalin sisters) but they hardly make a skyline...

[Adiks]

Moscow already has the best skyline in Europe

Pff Moscow is still far from that.

[Fallout]

I wouldn't be so sure....

http://img-2007-12.photosight.ru/17/2464183.jpg

http://i024.radikal.ru/0712/ae/eb6a967cfdff.jpg

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5716/pc150072qk0.jpg

[Second City]

^^
It's nice and will only get better but as of now it is nowhere near the best skyline...

[Paul]

5 high skyscrapers and you suppose it's the best skyline in Europe... funny.

[Fallout]

5 high skyscrapers and you suppose it's the best skyline in Europe... funny.

I don't say it's already the best, but it will, if they finish most of the projects.

[Assurbanipal]

5 high skyscrapers and you suppose it's the best skyline in Europe... funny.

Our Warsaw has several high skyscrapers too and they makes really nice skyline...
While indeed the highest towers are under construction in Moscow and this city will get at least one of the best skylines in Europe, I don't see any reason for flame wars about it. Poland's economy is about 3x smaller than Russian one, it is obvious that we don't get so high towers as Moscow, however, "Kulczyk" tower and other projects are really very good and will enrich significantly already beautifull Warsaw skyline. I prefer to be happy with that and focus how Warsaw will look in, for example, 2010 instead bashing other cities.

[wstretnykomuch]

Nice towers in Moscow. However we're talking about europe here. Russia is only in strict geographical means partially in Europe (and still far far away east at the very end of the continent).

It is not in Europe in political, cultural, nor civilizational terms.

I know russians has the biggest airplane, the deepest hole drilled in earth, biggest nuclear power station etc.

But the developement of all of those was conducted like in China - no economical or practical reasons, many people were forced to move and suffered from those decisions of their dictators.

I would not put Russia in comparison to any developed, democratic european country. It is like different planet.

[onestone]

Get back to topic guys.
A better place to talk about that is here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=320686&page=71

Some news about the skyscraper in Warsaw?

[jak3m]

Wow! this tower is great, i hope it gets built.
whos the architect?

[BaalNamib]

Autors of prject: MWH ARCHITEKCI ANDRZEJ WYSZYŃSKI
architects: Dorota Borysiewicz, Andrzej Piłatowski, Andrzej Wyszyński
And one fresh cool render of building:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2061/2159345748_ccbbec8b18_o.jpg

[Darhet]

Wow! this tower is great, i hope it gets built.
whos the architect?

architect Andrzej Wyszyński
Design Team:
arch Dorota Borysiewicz
arch Andrzej Piłatowski
cooperation:
arch Maciej Zębik
arch Iwona Godlewska
arch Marta Gerczyńska
arch Maciej Główka

investor: Chmielna Develompent Sp Z.o.o
Warsaw Chmielna Str 85/87


http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/TOWER_PRZEKROJ_A-A.jpg

[isaidso]

Nice towers in Moscow. However we're talking about europe here. Russia is only in strict geographical means partially in Europe (and still far far away east at the very end of the continent).

It is not in Europe in political, cultural, nor civilizational terms.



Dude. Russia is in Europe and has always been in Europe. Europe is a continent, not a standard of living or any Western Euro-centric definition of it. France is no more European than Russia or Greece or Latvia.

Back to thread: Poland certainly seems to have gone through a huge change over the past 20 years. It's good to see the country prospering.

[witu102]

bleh..I hate this tower it looks like a commieblock covered with high reflective glass...It can't be called architecture for me...
And another thing making living floors(21-64) over hotel floors is simply stupidity....even a child knows that living higher then 20th fllor isn't nothing nice for our health and it is simply not comfortable...a man could stand working or living for few nights on such a height but permanent living is imposible...

[HD]

tell that to the thousands of people that live above the 20th floor around the world. most of them see it as a privilege ..

[Sbz2ifc]

A better version of the night render:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/Sbz2ifc/International/Kulczyk2.jpg

[Cracovia]

at 280m its going to be HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vladorlando]

Nice towers in Moscow. However we're talking about europe here. Russia is only in strict geographical means partially in Europe (and still far far away east at the very end of the continent).

It is not in Europe in political, cultural, nor civilizational terms.

I know russians has the biggest airplane, the deepest hole drilled in earth, biggest nuclear power station etc.

But the developement of all of those was conducted like in China - no economical or practical reasons, many people were forced to move and suffered from those decisions of their dictators.

I would not put Russia in comparison to any developed, democratic european country. It is like different planet.


:banana:He He ! Russian music,literature and art gave to European culture more than some nations from center or west Europe . But naturally Russia should stop to be only european country . Russia is Euroasian state .

[Assurbanipal]

Stunning render!
I've read in this thread construction will begin in 2009. Is still this valid?

[krzysiu_]

Yes, construction is gonna start in 2009, just like Lilium Tower :cheers:

[Ni3lS]

That render is gorgeous.. :drool:

[Cracovia]

Stunning render!
I've read in this thread construction will begin in 2009. Is still this valid?

From a recent artcle i infered that apparently Lillium and Kulczyk have some kind of special priority in the Warsaw municipality planning department and recently the vicepresident of Warsaw came out and said both projects should get approval real soon (its a matter of a few monthes)....
So good news is around the corner also this is probably not the final project so lets hope it just get better :banana:

[Matthew_888]

I don't say it's already the best, but it will, if they finish most of the projects.
If we're talking about skylines and finish of projects, lets look how Warsaw will look if every project will be build.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/ringu-pl/Warszawa-final.jpg

^^ This is greate skyline :cheers:

[FFM2007]

^^yes that would be an amazing skyline if all gets built(btw the current is also very good). definately of europe's top 5 if those projects are built.

[Buyckske Ruben]

A better version of the night render:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/Sbz2ifc/International/Kulczyk2.jpg

No words for that project! Very nice render en what a building guys...:nuts: so tall!

For Poland Just amazing!

[karejeeta]

Can't wait for the tower. Warsaw is booming and soon will be filled with skyscrapers.:banana::banana::banana::banana:

[isaidso]

^^yes that would be an amazing skyline if all gets built(btw the current is also very good). definately of europe's top 5 if those projects are built.

I'd say Warsaw is already in Europe's top 5.