View Full Version : Tvålflingan | ?m | 15fl | T/O


safta20
December 12th, 2007, 11:30 PM
This building is under construction at Telefonplan 3 metro stations South of Södermalm. Only about 100 meters from the Telefonplan Tower and the 200 m high proposal called Tell Us Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=555797). You can see construction pictures of it in one of the links below.

http://www.hsb.se/content/1/c6/08/15/28/753e78c1.jpg

Links:
www.Stockholm.se (http://www.stockholm.se/Extern/Templates/PageWide.aspx?id=112361)
HSB (http://www.hsb.se/hsb/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=26134&a=81530)
Construction pictures (http://www.hsb.se/hsb/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=39558)
www.mikaelgoransson.com (http://www.mikaelgoransson.com) (the Artist)

IceCheese
December 13th, 2007, 04:43 PM
Why is this tower called "Tvålflingan"? Doesn't "tvål" mean "soap"? Can anyone help me with the rest?

Insane alex
December 13th, 2007, 05:38 PM
Yes it does! :lol:

Swede
December 13th, 2007, 07:09 PM
Flingan = the flake. Like in snowflake. So it does mean Soapflake. It isn't really the name of the building, but of the block. And since the this is the only highrise in the block and no other name has been given yet...

Þróndeimr
December 15th, 2007, 01:35 PM
The names doesn't make much sense, and the building looks more or less very boring. Hopefully they'll do soemthing about the facade, looks like a huge poster/painting on the exteriour walls.

Swede
December 15th, 2007, 02:29 PM
I kinda like the pattern on the walls. More interesting than the plain single colored ones that are all over the place here. What I REALLY don't like about it is that attempted plaza-thing. There's no need for one and all will create is a dark and dead area - not something to be strived for exactly.
The height is boring too. 15fl is... anonymous. Sure, it'll make a big dent on the local "skyline", but won't make the area any more visible or known from the outside. Either make the tower twice as tall or (hehe) build the whole block 15fl tall.

safta20
February 15th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Here's an article about the painting on the wall. (http://www.svd.se/stockholm/nyheter/artikel_873977.svd)

safta20
July 9th, 2008, 10:00 PM
The first floor of this building have popped up from the ground. But no patterns on the facade yet....

AdnanPD
July 10th, 2008, 12:06 AM
:banana: finialy something U/C ill drink in that name:cheers:

safta20
July 10th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Yepp! It have looked like ground zero for many years. But all buildings in the block is UC right now!

AdnanPD
July 10th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Sthlm deserves mid and high rise buildings :D

AtlanticaC5
July 10th, 2008, 06:12 PM
I kinda like this one, a bit too short of course but that goes for most buildings u/c in Stockholm ;) I really hope the pattern will be there in real life too, so it's just not something they added to the rendering. Would be interesting to see

Boscorelli
July 10th, 2008, 06:32 PM
I really don't know what to make of this one, I think I need to see it in real life to make up my mind about it, or at least someones photos of it finished.
Could be ok! Could be catastophic! ???

AdnanPD
July 10th, 2008, 06:50 PM
Only thing that we can do now is sit and wait until its built.
I think it would end up nice if they stick to this rendering.

safta20
July 10th, 2008, 09:51 PM
Here's a picture from the artists website. I believe the wall belongs to this house.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/2655910759_a8d049663c_o.jpg

AtlanticaC5
July 11th, 2008, 11:53 PM
^^ Looks like it's more of a pattern than painted on the facade. Hm, we'll see how this goes...

safta20
October 18th, 2008, 12:35 AM
Hmm the pattern on the wall does so far only look like dirt;)

http://www.hsb.se/content/1/c6/13/71/69/web%202.jpg

khaan
October 18th, 2008, 01:11 AM
Hmm the pattern on the wall does so far only look like dirt;)

http://www.hsb.se/content/1/c6/13/71/69/web%202.jpg

Yeah, but I imagine there will be some outer layer on this that gives it texture.

Swede
October 18th, 2008, 10:47 AM
I don't. That looks exactly like a top-notch facade on any new building in Stockholm. That is to day, it looks like cheap crap. The lines between the slabs... How can thee archticts, builders, ... NOT realize those lines make everything else done with the facade look fake and crap?

/pet peeve.

safta20
October 18th, 2008, 11:51 AM
This screening tecnique has actually not been used on outdoor facades in Sweden before. It's an 20 year old and popular tecnique in France. But not here. I think it's good that they try to do something different.... It takes time to learn to do something like this. But you have to start somewhere..

ezkiminzin
October 27th, 2008, 12:04 AM
sorry, you´re wrong, the swedish application of this technique has been used
by the same artist for several projects, popular in france? no it´s unusual there too,

safta20
October 27th, 2008, 09:12 AM
You are right about that the tecnique have been used before in Sweden. But the information I got says that this tecnique have not been used for outdoor facades on buildings. It has only been used for Subways and some other stuff as far as I know.

As for France... It is not very common tecnique of course. But it has been used since the 80s according the information I got..

ezkiminzin
November 10th, 2008, 03:08 PM
If you don´t consider a large Police House complex in Kalmar
a building and a facade of Växjö university, both by the same artist

safta20
November 11th, 2008, 08:15 AM
Sweet and thanks for the info! The university and police station seems to be new (or perhaps still uc?). Would be great to see more pictures to see how the tecnique looks!

safta20
January 9th, 2009, 03:53 PM
I do not see the patterns as clearly irl as in the rendering. I wonder if it will look better when it is finished. This will be the worlds highest building with graphical concrete. But will it be the best? I'm not sure;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3182506476_afa54f45bd_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3181672773_4cfd68b338.jpg?v=1231512004
http://www.hsb.se/content/1/c6/08/15/28/753e78c1.jpg

SveaSaga
January 21st, 2009, 12:59 AM
its called tvålflingan because it was a famous soap factory on this ground quite some years ago. i used to work 50m from this place so i used to studie it every day but haven't checked it out in a while now.

Swede
January 21st, 2009, 09:39 AM
I do not see the patterns as clearly irl as in the rendering. I wonder if it will look better when it is finished. This will be the worlds highest building with graphical concrete. But will it be the best? I'm not sure;)
The dominant facade feature is, as usual, the prefab concrete slabs. Ugly and booooring. Architects and construction companies: IT IS UGLY AND OBVIOUS! At least try to come up with something to hide those cracks between the pieces:bash:.

Bardamu
January 21st, 2009, 10:19 AM
The dominant facade feature is, as usual, the prefab concrete slabs. Ugly and booooring. Architects and construction companies: IT IS UGLY AND OBVIOUS! At least try to come up with something to hide those cracks between the pieces:bash:.

The havent filled the joinings yet, but of course will the joinings be visible in the future as well. I personally think the contrast of the motif is to weak, ie it becomes almost meaningless with that pattern.

Chilenofuturista
January 21st, 2009, 09:00 PM
I do not see the patterns as clearly irl as in the rendering. I wonder if it will look better when it is finished. This will be the worlds highest building with graphical concrete. But will it be the best? I'm not sure;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3182506476_afa54f45bd_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3181672773_4cfd68b338.jpg?v=1231512004


Oh dear, it's million programme galore again. :ohno: :sleepy:
This is as dull and grey as the buildings in adjacent Axelsberg. Sorry mates. :(

Swede
January 22nd, 2009, 04:33 PM
The havent filled the joinings yet, but of course will the joinings be visible in the future as well.
But they will try to fill them? That's very, very unusual. I can't remember a single building where that has been done.

Bardamu
January 23rd, 2009, 11:46 AM
But they will try to fill them? That's very, very unusual. I can't remember a single building where that has been done.

The joinings are always filled, it´s to protect the wall from water and moisture. But as I wrote before you´ll still be able to se the joinings. Ie it´s almost impossible to "hide" the joining in a house with prefab concrete walls. That´s why for example the city doesn´t alowe houses with visible joining in the zoning plans in the central area of Stockholm.

safta20
January 23rd, 2009, 12:34 PM
^^Bardamu you seems to be a proffesional:) Do you believe that there is any chance that the patterns on the wall will be more visible when the building i finnished?

Bardamu
January 23rd, 2009, 12:51 PM
^^Bardamu you seems to be a proffesional:) Do you believe that there is any chance that the patterns on the wall will be more visible when the building i finnished?

I doubt it:ohno: But lets wait and see.

Insane alex
January 24th, 2009, 01:42 AM
OMG! This looks awful!

christos-greece
January 25th, 2009, 11:25 AM
Nice building...

Geborgenheit
January 25th, 2009, 01:00 PM
Looks okay :okay:

sapmi
January 25th, 2009, 11:07 PM
Not really what I expected... :ohno:

safta20
February 23rd, 2009, 03:25 PM
Tvålflingan have reached it's full height.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3303867612_69d8478e26_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3303038561_f0e311db62_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3303038405_ca2a2dfa13_o.jpg

Pansori
February 23rd, 2009, 11:14 PM
A rather nice looking building. The technology of pre-assembled concrete blocks is not so common these days! In the Baltics (not sure about Scandinavia and Western Europe) it was a very popular technique in the 70's to 90's where most of the Soviet-built mass housing was built using this technique (including my own flat in Vilnius).

khaan
February 23rd, 2009, 11:25 PM
A rather nice looking building. The technology of pre-assembled concrete blocks is not so common these days! In the Baltics (not sure about Scandinavia and Western Europe) it was a very popular technique in the 70's to 90's where most of the Soviet-built mass housing was built using this technique (including my own flat in Vilnius).

^^
Hm.. not sure if that comment is meant to be ironic or not.. ;)

I do not like the prefab look at all and I must say I'm rather disappointed of the finished look of this building...

Insane alex
February 24th, 2009, 12:19 AM
The facade looks dirty with that pattern thingy going on, im not liking it at all!

Pansori
February 24th, 2009, 03:37 AM
^^
Hm.. not sure if that comment is meant to be ironic or not.. ;)

I do not like the prefab look at all and I must say I'm rather disappointed of the finished look of this building...

No iorony here. I guess the fact that I love black color makes some difference to me :D
Looks somewhat solid and respectable.

Mexicola
February 24th, 2009, 03:51 AM
The facade looks dirty with that pattern thingy going on, im not liking it at all!

Exactly. It looks like they would have to clean it.
Looks like shit.

safta20
February 24th, 2009, 10:13 AM
I think it's ok to use pre-assembled concrete blocks if they put patterns on the blocks. As far as I understand it's easier to put patterns on the wall with pre-assembled concrete blocks. However the engineers seems to have made something wrong here. Cause the patterns looks as already mentioned like dirt.

khaan
February 24th, 2009, 10:23 AM
Also, look at the block to the right 4 stories down from the top here:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3181672773_4cfd68b338.jpg?v=1231512004

It does not help that some blocks have a totally different color than other blocks...

I really hope there is going to be some kind of blank finish on this or something...

khaan
February 24th, 2009, 10:26 AM
No iorony here. I guess the fact that I love black color makes some difference to me :D
Looks somewhat solid and respectable.

I love black to.
This building recently went up in Stockholm:

http://www.yimby.se/Publishing/FileStore/dff60d74-a566-4340-a5df-2066c68192b7.jpg

http://www.yimby.se/Publishing/FileStore/d32340d6-5c21-4f4f-8076-d7831f320ce3.jpg

http://www.yimby.se/Publishing/FileStore/69b07ab7-8430-43c5-badf-a9751e9d9912.jpg

Now, THAT is a nice finish :)

Chilenofuturista
February 25th, 2009, 04:19 PM
Read my message, #29.

I'm so disappointed. :ohno:
It's written "Axelsberg" all over the building. It looks really bad.

Dan
February 28th, 2009, 12:15 AM
It just looks like it is dirty :(

Swede
February 28th, 2009, 05:59 PM
Sadly, that's my overall impression too: slightly dirty building made by prefab concrete blocks. Tho thankfully the prefab is barely visible when passing by on the interstate.

Boscorelli
May 27th, 2009, 04:33 PM
Some article about Tvålflingan:

http://www.byggindustrin.com/arkitektur/grafisk-betong-sticker-ut__6535

Anyone that lives or works close to it that has taken any recent photos of it? :)

khaan
October 7th, 2009, 11:55 AM
This Saturday, YIMBY Stockholm will hold a city walk out in Midsommarkransen.
http://www.yimby.se/2009/10/promenad-genom-midsommark_814.html

(Perhaps a good chance to take pictures of this project?)