http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/logo.gif (http://www.Tjuvholmen.no) - Island of Thieves
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Presenting Tjuvholmen. A project masterminded by one of Norway's most respected architects, Niels Torp (http://www.nielstorp.no/).

In 2002 he conceived of this plan to turn an old industrial pier, adjacent to Aker Brygge, into a landscape of islands, canals and the latest in Norwegian modern architecture, housing top-end apartments, top-end boutiques, top-end office space and also a museum and a hotel, both top-end of course. The project also piqued the interest of starchitect Renzo Piano, who leaped at the opportunity to design the museum. Selvaag Gruppen and Aspelin-Ramm gruppen are the joint construction firms behind the project, which was originally named 'Utsyn'

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/TjuvholmenOversiktFraNord.jpg

Tjuvholmen is only the first part in a wider vision known as 'Fjordbyen' or the Fjordcity. The plan is to turn all the old industrial harbour areas in the inner city into new centres for commerce and recreation, as well as housing in general. The image below should help you to identify the Tjuvholmen project within this wider scheme.

http://www.prosjekt-fjordbyen.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/Prosjektfjordbykontoret/Internett/Bilder/_Fra%20konvertering/kart2.gif


For more information on other Fjordcity projects, click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=102067)

Akerodden

Construction Phase 1 (F2)


Construction phase one was completed in 2007, It is of mixed use, including apartments, office space and shops. The buildings were designed by Norwegian architectural firms Kristin Jarmund, Kari Nissen Brodtkorb, HRTB and MAD. Their designs were developed independently and only very loosely coordinated in the final stages, an approach that has resulted in much variety in the buildings' appearance. The city block is triangular in shape and is located on Akerodden, the part of Tjuvholmen closest to Aker Brygge. The streets surrounding the block are Lille Stranden, Bolette Brygge and Tjuvholmen Alle.

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The building with the greatest impact as seen from Bryggetorget at Aker Brygge will be the cornerbuilding designed by Kristin Jarmund (http://www.kjark.no/). The building uses so-called bubbledeck technology in its construction.

HRTB architects designed two buildings, both very similar in appearance and both 8 stories high, with 18 and 17 apartments respectively. HRTB architects (http://www.hrtb.no/) have previously designed such works as Grünerløkka Studenthus and Porthuset.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Oslo%20city%20archive/LilleStranden1x1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Oslo%20city%20archive/LilleStranden1x2.jpg

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Kari Nissen Brodtkorb has designed this building facing Olav Selvaags Plass, as well as the corner-building at Bolette Brygge and Lille Stranden. Brodtkorb (http://www.brodtkorb.no/) has also designed buildings at Aker Brygge, more specifically Stranden just across the canal, or Dokken as it is known.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/Tjuvholmen_Hus23_fargesatt.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/2499_1.jpg

MAD (http://www.mad.no/) (Moderne Arkitektur & Design) is behind this 8 story infill project which among other thing includes duplex apartments, i.e. apartments covering two floors.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/tjuvholmMAD.jpg

Construction Phase 2 (F3, F1 North)


The buildings in this phase have been designed by Niels Torp and Finnish architectural firm Gullichsen Vormala Architects. F3 covers the southwestern part of Akerodden in a semicircular shape. F1 North completes the view of Tjuvholmen and its central allé from Bryggetorget at Aker Brygge. These phases were completed in 2008.


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Construction Phase 3 (F1 South)


Construction Phase 3 includes a oval building designed by Niels Torp and an L-shaped building designed by Hammer Schmidt Lassen (http://www.shl.dk/). Originally some of this building-mass was intended to house Tjuvholmen Hotel but these plans have since been altered. This is the last phase of construction on Akerodden and is scheduled to be completed in 2010.

http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w900h410/9075663.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Byggegangen1small.jpg


Tjuvholmen Island


The "Flatiron" block (F7)

This will be the first block to be completed on the island itself. It is seperated into three different units:

Tjuvholmen allé 9 is designed by Dark (http://www.darkarkitekter.no/index.html) architects and will be the first to be constructed on the island of Tjuvholmen. Construction is scheduled to start in 2009 and to finish in 2011. The building is intended for office space.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/Tjuvholmendark.jpg

The next unit, Tjuvholmen allé 21, is designed by architects Hansen/Bjørndal. Its purpose is primarily residential and the facade has a distinct curve. Scheduled completion is for 2012.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/tjuvhall21.jpg

The last unit facing west is designed by architect Jensen/Skodvin. It is also scheduled to be complete in 2012.

http://tjuvholmen.no/arch/img.aspx?file_id=9088946&ext=.jpg


Tjuvholmen Museum Complex (F4, F5, F6)

The museum complex will be designed by Renzo Piano (http://rpbw.r.ui-pro.com/) and house, among other things, the Astrup-Fearnley collection of modern art, which is currently on exhibit at a different venue in Oslo. The collection includes works by Andy Warhol an Jeff Koons. The concept is being developed in co-operation with Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, Copenhagen. The complex will also include a so-called event centre or Exploria, developed in co-operation with Event Communications Ltd., London. In addition to this, an observation tower is planned built.

The museum will span over a canal to the small island of Skjæret. The plan is to have a sculpture park on the island. The artists to be included are Anish Kapoor, Franz West, Louise Bourgeois, Peter Fishli & David Weiss, and Ellsworth Kelly, to name a few of the planned works. The island will also have a small beach for swimming.

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Tjuvholmen Hotel + adjacent blocks (F8)

According to the new plans, the hotel will be on the opposite side of the canal, and will only be built in the later stages of construction. The original design by Hammer Schmidt Lassen will be used for mixed office/residential use only. The hotel will be run by the chain Choice hotels.

http://www.bygg.no/cache/image/23227/53/tjuvholmen-hotell-bredde.jpg

The block will also include two additional units. These will not belong to the hotel. The architects are HRTB for the unit immediately adjacent to the hotel and Lof architects for the curved facade (Landgangen 3). The block is expected to be complete in 2013.

http://tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/9090151.jpg


Remaining construction Phases

The two blocks at the furthest end of the island (F7) have been designed by Torstein Ramberg (Kavringen Brygge 2-4) and Lund Hagem (Kavringen Brygge 3). Both are scheduled to be complete in 2013. The Lund Hagem block will also include a seperate unit by Jensen & Skodvin (Kavringen Brygge 1).

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/tj1.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/tj2.jpg

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The last construction phase will consist of three blocks located behind the hotel block as from the perspective of Aker Brygge.

http://oslopuls.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00086/Tjuvholmen_oversikts_86881d.jpg

Nice tread Joamox. Good idea as well. Lots of things going on on Tjuvholmen at the momement.

Nice. I have been thinking of an own Tjuvholmen thread myself. When the development starts,I guess we need own threads for Sørenga, Filipstad, Barcode etc aswell.. :)

PS! For my photos, you can send my royalty money to bank acc: 0666 10 11111

;)

I just love this project! :D

Both Muster and I have been following the development with our camera

Photos by Muster: Construction phase 1 seen from the north

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/2007_0131bilderdiv0006.jpg

Construction phase 1 and 2 as seen across Pipervika.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/2007_0617bilderdiv0119.jpg

Some of my own photos: August 2007 - Construction Phase 1 nearing its completion

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/100_20351.jpg

From the north, Construction Phase 3 is already making visible progress

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/100_20381.jpg

At the opening of Tjuvholmen phase one, our field reporter Muster was at hand with his camera. August 23, 2007

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Nice. I have been thinking of an own Tjuvholmen thread myself. When the development starts,I guess we need own threads for Sørenga, Filipstad, Barcode etc aswell.. :)

PS! For my photos, you can send my royalty money to bank acc: 0666 10 11111

;)

I suggest you contact Tjuvholmen AS directly for your money. Also, tell them they owe me as well for all the efforts we take to promote them.

I was also thinking about a barcode thread but Im not excited enough about that project to bother

This thread keeps getting better. I`m not sure if I agree this is more exciting than the Opera or the Barcode projects, but dont mind that, it`s great anyway!

But what I miss though, in the intro-post, is some words and a map showing that Tjuvholmen is a part of the Fjordcity project. I think it also would be nice if there was a link to the great Fjordcity-thread. And maybe (Northstar?) a link in the Fjordcity-thread to the Tjuvholmen-thread. That would be sooo great:cheers:

Its fantastic with some nice threads while we are waiting and waiting for some action in the city development... :)

looks like a really nice place, kinda reminds me of luxparken in stockholm....

btw, dues tjuv mean thief in norweigan as well?

looks like a really nice place, kinda reminds me of luxparken in stockholm....

btw, dues tjuv mean thief in norweigan as well?

Yes, tjuv means thief.

Do you have a link to some photos or renders of Luxparken? I havent heard about such a project in Stockholm..

Great initiative to start this thread!

I think it also would be nice if there was a link to the great Fjordcity-thread. And maybe (Northstar?) a link in the Fjordcity-thread to the Tjuvholmen-thread. That would be sooo great:cheers:


No problem, I will edit the opening-post in the Fjordcity-thread:) I should really have been more active updating the opening thread there more often. I apologize for beeing just too lazy.

I like what I see here. All buildings look different but they still look good together. I'll put Niels Torp in my mind. Oslo seems to have a lot of plots by the water that is vacant for residential construction right? That opens up for the opportunity to make Oslo look modern from the sea! It's interesting!

Here are some images I believe have not been posted on SSC previously

From the official site of Kristin Jarmund Architects (http://www.kjark.no): The office building featuring so prominently in construction Phase 1. The building is the first in Norway to make use of Bubble Deck, which is a new concept in concrete constructions to make the bearing elements lighter with the use of air bubbles. It was invented by a Danish engineer and has been hailed as a great innovation.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/bilde_03.jpghttp://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/TjuvholmenKJ.jpg

From the website of Perry Frisor (http://www.perry.no/), which now have opened a salon in Bolette Brygge

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/TjuvholmenHus26b.jpg

Also now open at Tjuvholmen is a bookstore, of the Norli branch, and a new restaurant called Flukt. For more on this restaurant, check out their website here (http://www.spisestedetflukt.no/main.htm)

Some Tjuvholmen trivia: Tjuvholmen already has the most expensive apartment ever sold in Norway. It went for 40 million NOK, that is €5 million or $6.7million, to an anonymous buyer.

Some more images, from www.bygg.no (http://www.bygg.no/id/27610)

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Cool area, I really like it. It's got a good density and variation of the buildings which makes it interesting to look at :)

I went by the place today:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9037/tjuvholmenyw2.jpg

3 photos from today:

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/2008_0217bilderdiv0227.jpg


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The restaurant chain Bølgen & Moi (http://www.bolgenogmoi.no/index.html?catid=1) will establish at Tjuvholmen. (http://ne.no/26816)

http://www.bolgenogmoi.no/img/publish/2007/09/drink_02.jpg

Some information about Bubbledeck in this article, a new method used to save on concrete and make buildings lighter, employed first time in Norway at Tjuvholmen. Bubbledeck was invented by a Dane.

http://www.tu.no/nyheter/bygg/article55318.ece

In other news, it seems that neighboring Filipstad might join Tjuvholmen in having a museum of modern art.

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2008/05/02/534177.html

Sweet! Thanks for the pics!

Just received an email from Tjuvholmen KS concerning building phase three.
No information about the buildings along Tjuvholmen alle, as they seem not to be considered part of phase three, but I can confirm that the so-called L-building is the one designed by Hammer Schmidt Lassen, but its not the hotel. It will be mixed office/residential, offices facing the street, apartments facing Filipstad. The oval building was, as was known already, drawn by Niels Torp.
The location of the hotel is not definite and will be built in one of the later phases, somewhere opposite the canal and the canal-bridge. No architect has been chosen as of yet and there is no definite time frame.

Additionally, here are some views of the interiors of building phase 2. Interior architect: Riss Architects.

http://www.placebo-fx.com/images/projects/viz40060380selvaagpl/40060380_selvaag_aptment01.jpg

http://www.placebo-fx.com/images/projects/viz40060380selvaagpl/40060380_selvaag_foyer01.jpg

Article (http://www.dagbladet.no/magasinet/2008/05/18/535357.html) in Dagbladet about the Astrup Fearnley museum and Renzo Piano. Nothing new really, but it has this great photo of Tjuvholmen:

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/5/53/535/535357/6B83295CA0280017529_1210920545.jpg


Here are two photos from my walk to Tjuvholmen today. Seems that phase two soon wll open for public :)

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Article in Dagens Nyheter about Tjuvholmen:
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?a=770189

Double post

Interesting that "the most interesting project in Oslo" looks like any given new waterfront area in Copenhagen.
Don't get me wrong, Tjuvholmen looks great and is a good example of new urbanism, but it is not spectacular whatsoever imo. Could be any place along the waterfront or in Örestad in Copenhagen (but then again, Copenhagen is light years ahead of everything else in the Nordics in terms of mdoern architecture and urban redevelopment).

Staff, what happend to you? Did the airport debate go to your brain???

Can you show me the "light years ahead" projects in Denmark which beats Tjuvholmen, Renzo Piano museum, Opera and Barcode in Oslo. I would really like to see them!

Airport debate?

Obviously it is my opinion, but check out the Copenhagen / Örestad development threads for a surprise.
As I said, Tjuvholmen looks like (and arguably is) a good example of urbanism and has a very nice layout - but it isn't spectacular in anyway, be it architecturally etc. It is rather "how it should be done" (but unfortunately isn't most of the times here in Scandinavia). By Copenhagen standards it could be any given place along the waterfront or in Örestad.

Stockholm is, on another note, even further behind. Pretty much nothing going on here (I'm in Sthlm over the weekend) that's worth being excited about unfortunately.

Yeah, I know the Copenhagen/Ørestad threads thank you. I wont make a huge discussion about taste etc, but you said light years ahead. I just dont see that. The Ørestad development for instance, is in my view mostly commieblocks and suburbia. There are some good buildings indeed, but most of them are not good at all (commie with some funky colour or balcony, but still just a commie). The area looks cold and dead (Yes I know its not finnished yet, but still..).
You also said spectaculare, I dont see that either. But can you messure the quality of the architecture, by its spectacularity? Probably not, and I guess you can agree on that.

Tjuvholmen will be a very attractive area. But Bjøvika/Barcode is alot more spectacular. Where does it say that Tjuvholmen is "the most interesting project"?

I love Ørestad and Copenhagen developpment to! It's great;D Lucky bastards!

Atleast the islands with the underwater parking garage is pretty spectacular for Norway =) Who is not blessed with that many projects so we are very happy for the ones we get;D
Here's a prinsip-scetch:
http://www.byggutengrenser.no/pub/config/dir_struc_root/artikkelbilder/p_hus1.jpg
The piles bear the structures on top while anchors the floating garage.
The density and variation in buildings is great and there will be a nice beach! *More beaches for Oslo, please!* Mountain is 50 meter below sea at the deepest.

Interesting that "the most interesting project in Oslo" looks like any given new waterfront area in Copenhagen.
Don't get me wrong, Tjuvholmen looks great and is a good example of new urbanism, but it is not spectacular whatsoever imo. Could be any place along the waterfront or in Örestad in Copenhagen (but then again, Copenhagen is light years ahead of everything else in the Nordics in terms of mdoern architecture and urban redevelopment).

The whole "most interesting" bit was just my personal opinion. I have changed that from the first page now. I completely disagree with Tjuvholmen being average but, hey, were are all free to express our opinions.
What attracts me to Tjuvholmen is not only good architecture, but location; this is smack damn in the middle of the city, being built on islands connected by small bridges, with a park and museum as well as upscale office space and apartments. I have difficulty seeing the comparison with Orestad, which, correct me if I am wrong, is not a waterfront project, nor central. In fact, its more like a second city outside Copenhagen. It reminds me me more of such development as can be found in Nydalen, Lysaker, Sjolyst, Fornebu and so on. These can probably not compete in scope but you get the idea.
Waterfront projects such as that at Frihavn is comparable, but I dont see why Tjuvholmen is inferior.



By Copenhagen standards it could be any given place along the waterfront or in Örestad.


Just read this. So Tjuvholmen could be given place in Orestad? I thought they were light years ahead there.

^^
No, you didn't read it. ;)
I wrote in both my post that Tjuvholmen, judging from the photos in this thread, could be any given place along the Copenhagen waterfront (from Sydhavnen up to Tuborn Havnepark, pretty much) or in Örestad. And then I wrote that Copenhagen is "light years ahead" of all other cities in the Nordics when it comes to modern architecture and new urbanism. My opinion. :okay:

^^
okeedoke, I just thought you might substantiate your claim of "light years ahead" with something more than "my opinion".

Here's a view from the sea:

With the first 3 steps:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/DSC00786.jpg

Piling for the next building-steps:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/DSC00789.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/DSC00792.jpg

The Tjuvholmen is a prolongation of the popular Aker Brygge boardwalk:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/DSC00794.jpg
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^^ Nice! BTW, I think we have been on the same boat today ;)

Some new images found on the official website

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Wow that underwater render is genius=)) Great, was a really nice boat-trip! :D

Hmmm. Had a walk around Aker Brygge and Tjuvholmen again today. I must say that the area is coming along very nicely. It has qualities you can't really convey through images alone.

I must say that the rooms/spaces, textures and facades are very impressive. In particular I think the innermost bridge over from Aker Brygge across the canal creates a beautiful open space. I'm also really impressed with how the materials of some of the buildings gives this subtle quality I can't quite describe. E.g.: I noticed the bricks used in one building there; they had an interesting dark colour I've never seen in bricks before. Stunning.

I searched for some closeups to illustrate this, but came short. Guess I have to bring a camera next time ;)

some photos from today

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I see you had a active day muster;) Greate updates.

I see you had a active day muster;) Greate updates.

Thanks! Yeah, I had an active day. If I knew I had a crazy guy from Leksvik following me, I would have done something very different I guess :lol:

Yeah, good pics muster!

But when on Saturday did you take these pics, because i walked through as well on saturday, with the sunlight comming inn same as in the pics!

Btw, Tjuvholmen was really good looking, i was a little surprised, great variety!

Yeah, good pics muster!

But when on Saturday did you take these pics, because i walked through as well on saturday, with the sunlight comming inn same as in the pics!

Btw, Tjuvholmen was really good looking, i was a little surprised, great variety!

Yeah, Tjuvholmen is looking good. But it will look a lot better when all the people have mooved in and the shopping areas are up and running. Now the area is dead. But the big thing is ofcourse the museum and the tower, though I know I`m almost the only one here who really likes the tower..

About saturday, I think I was at Tjuvholmen between 18.30- 19.00. :)

You didn`t take any photos of Tjuvholmen?

You're not alone, i'm loving the tower, only complaint is the height;P

LOL, I wish I also could have joined your Oslo stalking tour.

Yeah, Tjuvholmen is looking good. But it will look a lot better when all the people have mooved in and the shopping areas are up and running. Now the area is dead. But the big thing is ofcourse the museum and the tower, though I know I`m almost the only one here who really likes the tower..

About saturday, I think I was at Tjuvholmen between 18.30- 19.00. :)

You didn`t take any photos of Tjuvholmen?

Its a bit dead yeah, but didn't expect anything yet. There was actually a few ppl around when i was there, checking out the design and architecture, that was about a hour before you.

I read in a Norwegian newspaper (E24) today that It is almost impossible to sell flats in this project, during the last 3 months not one single flat has been sold!
And only 3 flats has been sold since Christmas! What? This is a nice project!
Has the housing market dropped overall in Norway or is it just this project?
And what will it do for future projects if this is indeed not just this project?

I read in a Norwegian newspaper (E24) today that It is almost impossible to sell flats in this project, during the last 3 months not one single flat has been sold!
And only 3 flats has been sold since Christmas! What? This is a nice project!
Has the housing market dropped overall in Norway or is it just this project?
And what will it do for future projects if this is indeed not just this project?

It's definitely the housing market. The same thing is happening with a lot of new projects. If the marked keeps heading downwards there will probably be fewer projects in the near future. The price of concrete doesn't exactly bode well either. That's one of the main reason why the last phase of Tjuvholmen is on hold.

A few photos from August

F1 North currently under construction.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF1433.jpg

F1 South, The L shaped building by hammer Schmidt Lassen and circular building by Niels Torp, is also under construction and will be the last on Akerodden to be built. From what I could see, the foundations are done and there are some iron rods sticking up overground, but not much else right now. They should be completed by the end of next year.

Looking over towards what will be the island. Renzo Pianos museum complex will be here. Apparently the law firm BAHr is also looking to have their offices here.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF1437.jpg

Aker Brygge as seen from Tjuvholmen.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF1443.jpg

Akerhus Festning and Ekeberg hill

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF1440.jpg

From Dokken

August 2006

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/100_1441.jpg

December 2006

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/tjuvholmen4.jpg

August 2008 - New bridge

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF1436.jpg

Looking great, dense and diverse, just like a city should be! Wish we could get more of that here in Gothenburg...

The first parking structure for next building steps is arrived, and a lot of activity going on:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/Sykkeltursept08001.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/Sykkeltursept08011.jpg

The area around the office building is getting finished up:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/Sykkeltursept08013.jpg

Last completed residential building:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/Sykkeltursept08007.jpg

The amount of cranes is increasing a lot, and so is Tjuvholmens land mass:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/Sykkeltursept08015.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/Sykkeltursept08022.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/DSC_1138.jpg

An article from tjuvholmen.no states that tennants are moving into Tjuvholmen, along with this known render:

http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w596/9080249.jpg

Wonder if Glitnir still is moving in;)

Looks very nice and urban ;)

An article from tjuvholmen.no states that tennants are moving into Tjuvholmen, along with this known render:

http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w596/9080249.jpg

Wonder if Glitnir still is moving in;)

Good news, will give the area more life! Hopefully this financial crisis won't get as bad as many think it will be, since they might stop several projects if the tennants goes down.

Update from 11.10.08 by napoligato@flickr, with the first 2 pieces of the floating parking-puzzle, they are produced in Fredrikstad and towed to Tjuvholmen.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/2931467667_f9e8a3abec_b.jpg

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/49/491/491986/Tjuvholmen_858_1171449635.jpg

There are 4 floors and the lowest floorplate is 13 meters underwater, they provide Tjuvholmen with 21 000 m2 land area and with a fully automated parking system holds 800 cars. 3rd and last piece is expected in june, and in december 09, it will open. Parking structure is dimmensioned to last for 300 years.

Some evening photos just a few days ago


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http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/2008_1130bilderdiv0037.jpg

Article and pictures about Tjuvholmens F1, North wich is now completed:
http://www.bygg.no/id/39301

http://www.bygg.no/image/8059/1/4/8059_1.jpg

I just love Tjuvholmen. Such a great project,hopefully we will get more of projects like this.

Would be great if Filipstad got anywhere near this, which I fear the don't. :ohno:

Great! so now only F1 south to go and Akersodden will be complete. They dont seem to have gotten that far on that yet though, from what I can see on the pics. Will have to wait untill 2010 I think. Damn, I am impatient to see it rise.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Byggegangen1small.jpg

Not only Niels Torps oval building, but Hammer-Schmidt Larsens L-building in the back as well

Updates from 22/12/08:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/DSC_1341.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/CSC_1370.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/CSC_1369.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo/CSC_1368.jpg

Great! so now only F1 south to go and Akersodden will be complete. They dont seem to have gotten that far on that yet though, from what I can see on the pics. Will have to wait untill 2010 I think. Damn, I am impatient to see it rise.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Byggegangen1small.jpg

Not only Niels Torps oval building, but Hammer-Schmidt Larsens L-building in the back as well

Well, happy news for you then. They are both rising now :cheers: I also counted 8 cranes at Tjuvholmen at the moment :)

No pics? =(

^^
yeah, I was going to say. where are the pics?

^^ I have seen it, isn`t that enough ? :lol: I guess you guys just have to use your imagination ;)

Don't have any, draw it for us please... ;)

^^I and my cellphone will look into it tomorrow (if the weather is good).

^^Sounds good.

As promised, I took a trip to Tjuvholmen today and I took some pics of the construction sites. Though I was there about 1-1.30 PM, the sun was low enough to ruin most good shots, but I'll post the unedited truth eitherway... You should edit it in your mind. I'm not your mother!
Enjoy:)

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009714.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009715.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009716.jpg

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http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009719.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009720.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009721.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009722.jpg

Bonus pic from the trainride home:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20winter09/13012009723.jpg

Great! If that was a cellphone it was really good though. Nice to see the progress on tjuvholmen. I'm looking forward to the next island.

Here's the prospect for the L-building:
http://www.akershus-eiendom.no/uploads/tx_aeprojects/tjuvholmen_trinn3_screen_1709-08.pdf

It will have 8 floors with offices, and 5 residential floors, making it a total of 13 floors at height 41,3 meters, the oval residential building will have 11 floors and a height of 35,1 meters. As stated here:
http://www.plan-og-bygningsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/plan-%20og%20bygningsetaten%20(PBE)/Internett%20(PBE)/Dokumenter/Filer%20utlagte%20saker/2008/Tjuvholmen_saksframstilling.pdf

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/f1sor2.jpg
That garage-opening looks like shit....

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/f1sor1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/f1sor3.jpg

Timeframe for the offices at Tjuvholmen, not likely to hold at this moment:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/tidsplantjuvholmkontor.jpg

Updates:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1743.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1745.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1746.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1747.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1750.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1751.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1753.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1755.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1756.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1758.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1759.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1761.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1764.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1765.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/DSC_1766.jpg

Nice pictures. Looks kind of empty though..

Sweet renders!

Just had to still my bragging rights for my Tjuvholmen pictures:bash: Well, at least the weather was better in my pics!

Didn't know that Tjuvholmen was excepted from the high-rise rule in Oslo. I was almost certain that 12 floors was the limit there... Oh, well. Misinformed again:(

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/f1sor1.jpg
^^A wind from the 70'ies.:puke:

Didn't know that Tjuvholmen was excepted from the high-rise rule in Oslo. I was almost certain that 12 floors was the limit there... Oh, well. Misinformed again:(

But the height is below 42 metres, so they're within the height limits.

The design of the L-building is a little odd, and hopefully it ends up better than the renders. First bigger building not designed by Niels Torp out there.

Well, at least it wont be the hotel, as originally planned

How do you do more than 12 floors on just 42 meters? That is already less than 3 meters per floor including floorplate, roof, vent shafts, electricity, ect. Stupid, two bit, good-for-nothing law.:tongue:

^^I guess since it's an appartment building, and they can have down to 2,7 m per floor, I think...

^^I guess since it's an appartment building, and they can have down to 2,7 m per floor, I think...

You hit the nail on the head. The average floor-floor height is 2.8 metres, with more for the office floors.

Who's designing the L-building?

Hammer-Schmidt Larsen (DK) ?

Tjuvholmen is the nicest waterfront development in the Nordics I have seen. I was recently there and the quality is really stunning. It shows that it's possible to have high standards. For instance, the many small retail boutiques in the office buildings is a very neat thing.

^^ Glad you like it :)

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%20sept%2008/Sykkeltursept08022.jpg

A bit late with my question here... What are they building here? A new road to Tjuvholmen? Or a tram to Fornebu:P

^^ Maybe they just had some excessive asphalt and didn't know where else to put it?

Well the tram to Fornebu is not under construction yet. This is simply a new road to the ferry-terminal- it's been finished for a while and is nice with new trees planted along the way. It's route is not at all logical at this point, but it will probably make sense in the future.
http://www.havn.oslo.kommune.no/article126853-7585.html

http://www.havn.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/oslo%20havn%20kf%20%28HAV%29/Internett%20%28HAV%29/Bilder/081127%20Ny%20adkomst%20Filipstad%20Hjortnes%20fra%20bru%20E%2018%202%20TT%20web.jpg%20%28450x300%29.jpg

Maybe to make way for the new hotell?
http://www.nettkatalogen.no/asp/newsLink.asp?site=Lokalavisen%20Frogner%20St.Hanshaugen&title=Vakrere+Kielferge-adkomst&newsURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lokalavisenfrogner.no%2Fapps%2Fpbcs.dll%2Farticle%3FAID%3D%2F20081201%2FNYHETER%2F49342810&header=Vakrere+Kielferge-adkomst

Some photos from Tjuvholmens website

http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w900h410/9081155.jpg


http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w900h410/9081131.jpg


http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w900h410/9081137.jpg


http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w900h410/9081135.jpg


http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/w900h410/9081147.jpg


http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/9081212.jpg

Tjuvholmen 9 is going to be built according to this design by Dark Architects

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/Tjuvholmendark.jpg

It is shown as construction phase 5 on this map

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/Tjuvholmenkart5.jpg

Construction starts this year

Read the Pdf here (http://www.tjuvholmen.no/arch/_img/9081219.pdf)

Very nice! How awesome wouldn't it be if it where 3x that height, a Flatiron at Tjuvholmen;)

Update from today:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1576.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1577.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1578.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1582.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1583.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1585.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1586.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1590.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1591.jpg

Rising up nicely, I see!:cheers:

Update from 21.03.09

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P3210789.jpg?t=1237683139

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P3210790.jpg?t=1237683162

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http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P3210797.jpg?t=1237683294

Director of Tjuvholmen says in todays Aften that Tjuvholmens park, tower and museum will not be halted by the crisis, it got approved by the city council today with some minor changes. The area will be finished by 2012 =)

http://www.byradet.oslo.kommune.no/pressemeldinger/article135349-7786.html

Did they use an old render in the paper? Else, the changes really weren't that minor...

Yes, they used the old masterplan with the Watchtower etc... We will probably see more renders later with the changes included. They reduced the buildings to provide a continous promenade and park.

Here's the latest i could find - can't spot any changes for the building-mass - so these are probably not accurate. But they are interesting none the less, for the show quite different design for the most interesting part, the tower.

Here, the tower has a larger observation plattform, and it's much shorter:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/ssc-tegninger/Tjuvholmen1.jpg

While this is the one we are used to seeing with no plattform:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/ssc-tegninger/Tjuvholmen2.jpg

The watchtower is just silly, should rather place a restaurant up there in a bigger room.
But the whole museum looks good.

There are two major changes in the museum, the roof will be glass instead of metal, and the tower wont have a lift (not like we have seen at least), but two staircases spinning around each other, with small observation plattforms on the way to the top. Sorry I dont have a render, but you can see it in todays DN..

I did not find a render on DN.no, but I found this video with the presedent of the museum taking a walk around Tjuvholmen, if anyone's interested....

http://www.dn.no/dntv/nyheter/article1639435.ece

And there is also a new render of the new hotel down by the canal they are digging, I hope it is not final, cause it looked kind of dull..

What about the height, Muster - does it look like it's 90 meters still? Article says 45 meters. But that is maybe just obs. plattform?

http://www.dn.no/d2/arkitektur/article1639191.ece

Extensive article about Pianos museum. Construction starts right after the summer.

What about the height, Muster - does it look like it's 90 meters still? Article says 45 meters. But that is maybe just obs. plattform?

http://www.dn.no/d2/arkitektur/article1639191.ece

Extensive article about Pianos museum. Construction starts right after the summer.

Sadly, I think it is only 45m.

http://multimedia.dn.no/archive/00164/LB_D2_piano_mesterb_164864e.jpg

You can see the first sketches of the tower down to the left in this photo from the article.

I was looking forward to the tower having a sort of simular effect as this one:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/3227482195_363932f71d_b.jpg

Piano says 300 steps up. So 45 meter sounds correct.

It says so, but it doesn't say how high up to the spires top.... New design is too fat, looks like something from a playground, i would rather have Torps watchtower back!

Dagsavisen says it will be 93m

http://www.dagsavisen.no/innenriks/article408006.ece

Dagsavisen says it will be 93m

http://www.dagsavisen.no/innenriks/article408006.ece

I don`t think our friend Mai-Bente Paulsen is trustworthy with number and facts. Another example:

Kommunen har vedtatt å flytte museet lengre fra vannet enn det som opprinnelig var tenkt, slik at friområdene får en sammenhengende front mot sjøen. Dermed vil det gi en 2.000 meter lang offentlig havnepromenade, fra Filipstad til Ormsund.

:lol:

^^ Haha, not even close.

Nah, D2 went to visit Piano himself, as DA has only been talking to Agerbak-Jensen. I wouldn't be surpriced if she doesn't know yet.... The regulationplan allows for 93 meters, but that is only maximum height.... Seems like the council is positive to the Aquarium tough, that's good;D I love little fishies;)

Little fishes? :shifty: I hope they build a giant aquarium if they first decide to make one. Almost every city have a aquarium this days, so i hope they build a innovative aquarium, and large ofc...

I have visited a lot of quariums btw:

-Akvariet i Bergen
-Liverpool
-Lysekil
-Denmark
-Barcelona
-Porto

Beat that:cheers:

I have visited a lot of quariums btw:

-Akvariet i Bergen
-Liverpool
-Lysekil
-Denmark
-Barcelona
-Porto

Beat that:cheers:

I've visited the Two Oceans Aquarium in Cape Town. That beats the crap out of yours.. (And Akavariet i Bergen and in Galway as well).
:tongue2:

I thought the aquarium was going to Bjørvika:shifty: But the more the merrier, I guess...

Since it is the share your aquarium-moment now, I've been in the aquariums in Bergen, Drøbak(:)) and Tenerifé, as far as I remember... Maybe one in Denmark and/or Sweden too.

Two aquariums in Cape Town O.o, maybe we get two in Oslo too :p
No Bjørvika have more than enough now! Filipstad would be a good place..

btw, I forgot Drøbak aquarium, then its 7 :)

I think the "two" is the name, not that there actually are two aquariums (not that that isn't possible, though...) Two Oceans, as in Cape Town lies where the Atlantic ocean and the Indian ocean meets:)

Am I the only one of us who have been to the aquarium in Tromsø?

I think the "two" is the name, not that there actually are two aquariums (not that that isn't possible, though...) Two Oceans, as in Cape Town lies where the Atlantic ocean and the Indian ocean meets:)

You probably right.. Was a bit quick there

I've never been further north than Trondheim...

I've been to Ålesund aquarium.

Am I the only one of us who have been to the aquarium in Tromsø?

I've been to that one. And one in Vienna, one in Denmark, and a few others, I think. I was at the one in Bergen, but that was at an age of 4years :D

Bjørvika aquarium was planned for the spot that is now taken up by the munch-museum, so they had to move it... And Filipstad was suggested in Aften, altough they have not updated their webpage they claim there to be the largest in the Nordics atleast.

And for my list:
-Monterey, Ca
-San Francisco, Ca
-Boulogne-sur-Mer, Fr
-Bergen, No
-Gothenburg, Se
-Curacao, An

Hi guys. Please forgive me crashing onto your thread in this manner, but I thought you might be able to help me out......

We are arriving in Oslo on a cruise ship at the end of June, and have been assigned to a berth at Filipstad called "Containerkran Øst". I'm taking this to mean where the container cranes used to be on the south eastern side of Filipstad (where I've put the arrow on the picture below). I understand that both the cranes are gone to the new container terminal, as are most (if not all) container shipping operations.

What we are wondering is where the port authority might allow us an exit from the port - over by the Color Line terminal and Filipstadveien or (hopefully) over by Tjuvholmen/Aker Brygge. Since we will be needing to go directly to the tourist office behind the Rådhus, we thought an early morning walk along Aker Brygge would be a nice start to the day. But not, perhaps, if we need to traverse the perimeter of Filipstad first!

Based on your knowledge of the current state of the quayside in that area, I was wondering if you might be willing to make an educated guess where we'll be exiting? I know this is a question that I should probably ask the folks at the port authority, but they unfortunately haven't answered my emails to them.

I do know that the building I've marked with an "X" is gone completely. So did they also move (or remove) the perimeter fence I've outlined and, in particular, the gate that existed between the building now gone and the building with the cars in front (if that's even still there)?

Also, since I'm asking, the bridges between Tjuvholmen/Filipstad and Aker Brygge are now fully open and accessible to pedestrians? And the 21 and 54 busses terminating at the Bryggetorget stop....there is no impediment to them collecting and dropping off passengers?

Thanks in advance for any help you might offer.

http://home.earthlink.net/~michael_walsh/images/Filipstad.jpg

I can't see why you shouldn't be able to walk out past Tjuvholmen... ;D And yes, you can take the bus, and walk across the bridges as you like! Enjoy your stay!

A more updated arial.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Filipstad.jpg

A more updated arial.

Cool. Thanks for that. If you don't mind me asking, what mapping site is that from?

Edit: Never mind, I think I got it.....Sesam, yes?

^^kart.sesam.no
It's the best site, because it also offers 3D-maps, and street-view pictures! (check out the main-page, sesam.no)

Agree! To bad it's going to close soon, i use it all the time...

Not to worry, these maps will live on and be further developed at finn.no;) They are already there :)

Those are without doubt the best resolution aerial view maps I've seen, at least for Oslo (and this side of those the Department of Defense uses). Quite a bit more up-to-date than alternatives too.

The 3D plug-in...hmmm, not so sure about that. The Microsoft Live "Bird's Eye" view is perhaps a bit better (maps.live.com)?

^^ i use live.maps since sesam's maps have some errors now and then, but they are basically the same exept for Sesam's 3d function which is brilliant.

mwalsh: What cruise ship are you operating?

mwalsh: What cruise ship are you operating?

I'll be on Holland America's Rotterdam. But the first ship assigned to Filipstad for the coming season will be Royal Carribean's Vision of the Seas, arriving on May 5th.

Edit: BTW, did you guys know about this web cam over at Tjuvholmen. There is supposedly one for that bridge between Aker Brygge and Tjuvholmen too, but it doesn't look like it works:

http://www.sjohagen.net/webcam/

Just yesterday they made some modifications in the area where that temorary bridge is...the took down the guard rails and moved the fence back towards Filipstad a bit:

http://home.earthlink.net/~michael_walsh/images/tjuvholmen2.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~michael_walsh/images/tjuvholmen3.jpg

Thanks for the update! And now the whole barge is gone!
http://www.sjohagen.net/webcam/tjuvholmen.jpg?

Byggeindustrien states that the new bridge from Akerodden to Tjuvholmen will be built from April - October, 40 meter long combined car and pedestrian bridge in concrete with 3 spans...;D

Thanks for the update! And now the whole barge is gone!

I've been watching the quayside for the last couple of days....it looks like they've started a parking restriction in that area. I haven't seen any cars parked there since the barge moved, and there has been a small van parked between those two huts at the entrance during working hours, essentially blocking access. I wonder what they're planning?

Some photos from today:

Is this the final design of the new hotel?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde081.jpg

The canal soon finished

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde082.jpg


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde083.jpg


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde084.jpg


The site for the museum

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde087.jpg


And of course the great view from Tjuvholmen

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde085.jpg

edit

Bad timing for Tjuvholmen (http://www.hegnar.no/eiendom/article372043.ece). I remember they said the same thing about Aker Brygge back in the 80s when "Jappetiden" ended..

I don`t think it is strange that things are a bit slow when there is a lot of construction going on.

Yippy, Tjuvholmen is still growing!:banana:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/28042009805.jpg

A bit unfocused, but you see the ocean facade sticking out. Nice!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/28042009806.jpg

Are those photos maybe a week old, because I was there today, and I`m pretty sure they are almost finnished with the 5`th floor..

Like I stated in one of the other threads, this was taken on Tuesday...

Like I stated in one of the other threads, this was taken on Tuesday...

Are you sure? :lol:

Well, I guess I have to start using glasses, or stop drinking.. :cheers: Nice seeing it rising though!

5 floors, that's cool, maybe it's T/O in august? ;D No more news on the tower thing? Crap... I'm so afraid they will screw it up....

5 floors, that's cool, maybe it's T/O in august? ;D No more news on the tower thing? Crap... I'm so afraid they will screw it up....

T/O in august doesn`t seem unlikely. My hope is that it will be possible to walk along Filipstad and then use the bridge to Tjuvholmen, then bridge to Akerodden within a year.

From Wiki:

Det var lenge bestemt at Filipstad skulle bygges ut senere enn de andre områdene av Fjordbyen, men denne føringen er fristilt etter februar 2008.


I don`t see any reason why they cant start building the park along Filipstad soon. If they could do it at Fornebu, they can do it here as well.



And what happend to the tower? Why reduce the hight???
This is from Aftenposten (http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article457171.ece)



Det mest overraskende er likevel muligens at bystyrepolitikerne mener utsiktstårnet på Tårnplassen er for lavt.Torp har nemlig foreslått at det skal være på 60 meter, og det mener politikerne gjerne kan bli høyere.

Det skal være første gang Sel-vaag er blitt bedt om å bygge høyere av Oslo kommune, som regel blir utbyggere bedt om å redusere høyden på prosjektene sine.

-Ja, dette hadde vi ikke regnet med. Det blir spennende å kunne bygge så høyt at det muligens kan bevege seg i vinden, smiler Olav H. Selvaag, prosjektleder for"Utsyn".

^^ It positively that Oslo kommune want to increase it :d

Is this the final design of the new hotel?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde081.jpg


This looks like either a terribly boring design reminescent of 1930s functionalism, or simply a generic image of volumes and sizes, suggesting no final design exists as of yet. The latter seems more likely, beacuse that image doesnt suggest much beyond what was already clear from the overall plan, which has been in existence since 2002-2003. The part with balconies ressembles a lot the standard applied to the generic plan. Construction of the hotel is not planned to begin before 2011.

But yes, this is the only part of Tjuvholmen where the hotel is likely to be

I don`t see any reason why they cant start building the park along Filipstad soon.

There are cruise ships scheduled to berth at Filipstadkaia until early September. So I very much doubt they could get much of anything going there until after the cruise season is over.

Speaking of which......Vision of the Seas is scheduled to dock on Thursday morning. I don't suppose anyone could be down there to document her arrival? If so, I'm particularly interested in where along the quayside she moors and where her passengers are allowed to leave the dock area.

Nobody knows what happends with the tower since Piano changed it but it's approved untill 93 meters high in the regulation-plan... How unbelievable it would be to have the obs. deck at that height... I would certainly walk all those stairs for sure;)

I would like to have a tower something like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Eiffel_tower_from_the_neighborhood.jpg/450px-Eiffel_tower_from_the_neighborhood.jpg

Anyone else think that would be what to hope for here?:dunno:

New images from the offical website

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/Thuvholmen.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/dark.jpg

Tjuvholmen flatiron, Here (http://www.darkarkitekter.no/) is some info about Dark Arkitekter

I think the Eiffel Tower is a bit wrong design for this site, but i wish we would have done something like this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2561185683_f7521486b3.jpg
The tower in Glasgow rotates all the way from base to top in relation to where the wind blows and resembles a bit of Torps masterplan design i think... :D

Speaking of which......Vision of the Seas is scheduled to dock on Thursday morning. I don't suppose anyone could be down there to document her arrival? If so, I'm particularly interested in where along the quayside she moors and where her passengers are allowed to leave the dock area.


Shoot, and now the Tjuvholmen web cam has gone down. :doh:

I really, really, need some help on Thursday, if for some reason it doesn't come back up.

Is anyone at all available to go snap some photos on Thursday morning? Doesn't even have to be all that early. Even though the passengers will start disembarking between 0600 and 0700hrs, the ship itself will be docked until she's scheduled to depart again at 1700hrs.

Edit: Or how about Wednesday morning? The Aidaluna looks like she's being put over there because the bigger Aurora is putting in over at Akershuskai. Aidaluna is in from 0800 to 1400hrs.

Pretty please? :kiss:

If the weather is nice I'll sure can take a few photos of Vision on thursday.

But I can't promise anything.

If the weather is nice I'll sure can take a few photos of Vision on thursday.

But I can't promise anything.

That would be very cool. I shall hope for good weather. :)

Edit: Hey! The Tjuvholmen webcam is back up, and has been repositioned to show more of the channel between Tjuvholmen and Filipstad! Awesome!

http://www.sjohagen.net/webcam/tjuvholmen.jpg?

Edit: Hey! The Tjuvholmen webcam is back up, and has been repositioned to show more of the channel between Tjuvholmen and Filipstad! Awesome!

Cruel. I got up in basically the middle of the night to check on the Aida Luna, and the webcam has moved again and it pointing up at the sky. It also appears to be down once more. :doh:

Fortunately, the Aida Luna has a couple of webcams on her upper decks, so I can see exactly where she is on the quayside, and she's about as far west as she could be:

http://home.earthlink.net/~michael_walsh/images/aidaluna_left_625px.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~michael_walsh/images/aidaluna_ahead_625px.jpg


Based on this information, I don't think it's necessary to make a special trip down there to check things out for me. Thanks for the offer. I've got a feeling the only option for exiting the port will be Filipstadveien.

On the plus side for you guys, I guess it would be possible to get started on the eastern side of Filipstad if the cruise ships are berthed down at the western end!

Anyway it's not a long walk around so don't worry about it.. ;D

Anyway it's not a long walk around so don't worry about it.. ;D

Not for me, but my wife has some mobility issues (mostly not being able to keep up with me :lol: ). Besides, we will have to walk at least to the tourist office at Fridtjof Nansens plass or perhaps even the one over by the Central Train Station, depending on what time we get moving (the one at the Central Station opens earlier). And that's even before we start touring the city.

What we may do instead, is take the number 33 bus from the Color Line terminal. We can take it to Nationaltheatret or Domkirke stops, as necessary, and it will only cost a few dollars.

After all that fretting about Filipstad, it looks now like we've been moved to Revierkaia. I tell you, if it wasn't for bad luck this week, I wouldn't have any luck at all. :ohno:

Does anyone know if it's possible for pedestrians to get from the docks where Revierkaia is to the South Akershuskaia dock without going around via Akershusstranda?

So I'm talking about by walking through the area comprising the Forsvars Museet, Den Gamle Losje, and the Military Hospital, etc.... (preferably via that restricted street directly across Akershusstranda from the port access road), crossing the bridge over Kongensgata, and walking through the grounds of the Akershus?

You can walk trough the fortress - acces to the east is open from 7 am, but there is no path leading directly down to the docks at the westside because of the high walls there, you have to walk out at the northside, and road is bad bricks, so if you have a bag with wheels i wouldn't recomend it;P

Tjuvholmen seen from Akershus fortress:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0452.jpg

The channel has progressed fast =))

It's a canal, not a channel. But, yeah, they've been fast. It's probably easier to take something away than to build. I'm a bit disapointed over them not having demolished that warehouse thingy yet, though...

I'm guessing it will be gone during a few months time ;) Can't say Channel, like "The English Channel" ?

Nope. I put Wiki on the case, and they are two different words where channel supposedly is best translated into Norwegian as "skipsrenne".:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_(geography)

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0452.jpg


Why is the crane to the right so tall?

And btw, channel is a natural waterway and a canal is human-made, as I've understood it.

^ It's there to lift the elements for the new 13 + 11 floor residential and office buildings going up:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0520.jpg

Looking over the canal from Bryggetorget:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0519.jpg

A closer look from Filipstad:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0521.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0522.jpg

From the square in the middle of Akerodden:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0523.jpg

The new canal:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0524.jpg

The oval 11 floor residential building:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0526.jpg

Where the bridge will cross over, the landarea to the left will be removed later it seems:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0527.jpg

Trees and plants have been planted there:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0530.jpg

The other bridgepoint:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0531.jpg

Looking over to what will be the park:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0532.jpg

The new poster there has the old tower-design:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0533.jpg

The completed park at Akerodden:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0535.jpg

Trees and plants have been planted there:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0530.jpg

Thuja hedge, how original :nuts:

Ingenioren, have you checked if your left leg is a little shorter than your right?

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0519.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0522.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0523.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0527.jpg

You're so A4, pics don't have to be strait! Remember i always shoot from my bike ;)

I have one shorter leg tough, don't remember wich one ;D I have a hard time standing still, but i can walk for tens of km without a trouble.. ;=)

I have a hard time standing still, but i can walk for tens of km without a trouble.. ;=)

WOW, that's exactly opposite of me..:lol:

Ingenioren, have you checked if your left leg is a little shorter than your right?

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0519.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0522.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0523.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0527.jpg

haha! noticed that too, but though maybe, injury in his handwrist?

Looking over the canal from Bryggetorget:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0519.jpg


I have always felt that this shot has a natural left tilt somehow, Its something about the buildings that create this impression.

Tjuvholmen Sjømagasin opens today :banana: Not so cool though, is the news that Norli is moving out of Tjuvholmen..:ohno:

Here is an article about Tjuvholmen (http://ne.no/30061) and the difficult times in the property market.

Tjuvstart@Tjuvholmen:

http://www.lokalavisenfrogner.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090525/NYHETER/251994475
http://www.tjuvholmen.com/?did=9081725

Ingenioren, have you checked if your left leg is a little shorter than your right?

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0519.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0522.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0523.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0527.jpg
Not to be picky, but I'd say his right was shorter than his left.

Looking over to what will be the park:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0532.jpg


This building will soon just be a vague itch in our memory, or something like that :lol: Most of the windows are now removed, and they have started the demolition of the walls.

One of the last floating pieces of the Tjuvholmen puzzle are now dipping in the fjord between Tjuvholmen and Hovedøya.

Oh, and I bought some books at Norli Tjuvholmen, 75% off. Almost empty there now, guess they close before the weekend.

Oh, and I bought some books at Norli Tjuvholmen, 75% off.

Me too :)

Too bad it didn't work out for them though

Some more updates:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0032.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0034-1.jpg

Bridgework:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0037-1.jpg

Landscaping is now done here, and this new fountain is up and running:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0020.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0022.jpg

Map:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0021.jpg

Viewed from Filipstad:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/CSC_0048.jpg

Finishing up the floating elements:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0046.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0051-1.jpg

I think it was some nice pictures:)

You do get a new perspektive from Filipstad, also think Tjuvholmen is starting to come to life (As soon as the sun is out.), all those small water streams in the street is a nice touch, people walking around, tourists pointing out their favourite building, oldtimers watching carefully the new construction, hot girls tanning in the park, was a very nice day for Tjuvholmen trip :D

Though it feels like feeding spoiled children sometimes, here comes updates from this evening..

Soon topped out!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde333.jpg



Great progress on the bridge!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde337.jpg



Going down!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde336.jpg



http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde334.jpg



Damn, The Jewel of the Seas is big!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde335.jpg

Very nice! New camera?

^^I was thinking the same:)

Damn, The Jewel of the Seas is big!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde335.jpg
And yet, the Freedom of the Seas is so much bigger. I've even been aboard :D

And even that will soon look like a toy. Oasis of the Seas is more than twice the size of the Jewel!

Very nice! New camera?

Eh..no, same old same old :lol:

And yet, the Freedom of the Seas is so much bigger. I've even been aboard :D

And even that will soon look like a toy. Oasis of the Seas is more than twice the size of the Jewel!

I know, I checked it after my post. Jewel of the Seas is HUGE, and knowing that Oasis of the Seas will be more than twice the size is just unbelivable :eek:

Some hastily taken shots from yesterday

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2587.jpg

Only two buildings left to go, before all the construction on Akersodden is complete

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2589.jpg

Looking across to Tjuvholmen Island, the wharehouse is still standing, they were supposed to start construction there this year, so they better get cracking

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2593.jpg

The canal with Filipstad in the back, the bridge across seems like it will be complete soon. Presumabely then, that bit of landfill will dissapear.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2600.jpg

Tjuvholmen allé

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2601.jpg

The north side of Akersodden

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2602.jpg

Once the barges, and cruiceship, are gone, this will offer gorgeous view across to Bygdøy

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2604.jpg

The L- and oval building, seen from across a bit of Filipstad

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2605.jpg

Seen from further afield

Tjuvholmen have turned out to be much better than I thought, just a bit empty yet...

I think future developmentplaces like Lodalen should look to Tjuvholmen. Dense, variated architecture, mixed used. and a bit italian/old town structure which would fit well between old Oslo and kampen :D

It sure is dense, a lot of neck craning there

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2599.jpg

Let's hope the market let's Tjuvholmen continue in it's current pace. It keeps amazing me how many out there who can pay up to 135.000 NOK per sqm for an appartment:nuts:

This thread can never be updated enough!:banana: These pictures are from a short walk today:

They're pretty far along with the cladding of L-bygget (Tjuvholmen allé 6)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20fall09/03092009857.jpg

Short digression... What happened to this design? Thought it was the final, but the end result doesn't look much like it.:dunno: They got offended by my "70ies"-comment earlier in this thread? As it looks now, it's actually much more generic, and stands out as boring compared to other buildings at Tjuvholmen... It looks "Barcode" with all that glass! I guess it's still possible for them to mount the brown-thingy over it, but.. What's up with the black plates then?
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/Oslo%2020jannullni/f1sor1.jpg



Ok, back to pictures:)
As I was walking down Aker Brygge, I couldn't help but notice the great view I had strait forwards. Not a single building left on the northern part of Tjuvholmen now!:cheers:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20fall09/03092009859.jpg

Is it impossible to take pictures in this part of the city without a cruise ship sniking in on them?
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20fall09/03092009858.jpg

Nice and massive. I still prefer Tjuvholmen in sunlight, though..
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Oslo%20fall09/03092009860.jpg

That's it for today!

Thanks dude:cheers:

Sunset over Tjuvholmen 10/9-09:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0477.jpg

No activity on the island:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0479.jpg

The new bridge:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0480.jpg

This will be shared with vehicles:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0481.jpg

The black panels on L-building:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0483.jpg
Aubviously these will be covered with the brown panels(Or something else.)

A new visitors centre is established in a faar better location:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0489.jpg

A new modell, without a tower - someone should go down and ask them about that:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0485.jpg

Withinn their opening hours ofcourse:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0486.jpg

Now, is it just me or is the egg-building one floor to tall, i count 12...
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/Sept09/DSC_0491.jpg

My guess, the tower is not there because they are working on the design. I have noticed that Renzo Piano now have Oslo on the map in his website. This is new and I think we will se a new render soon..

oslo kommune wants a higher tower than the orginal plans, am I right?

^^ Hope you're right. That would be great!

I don't know, the regulations open for 93 meters tall... :) So there is no reason why it can't be that height atleast....

The tower is not on the model because they are not quite sure where they will be putting it, or so the woman in the visitors centre told me.

More interestingly though, they had a map in there showing which architects will be doing which buildings on Tjuvholmen island. Apart from the very last stage, it all seem to be finalised, although apart from Pianos museum and Mir's office building, there are no available designs as of yet.
The hotel will be done by Mellbye architects, and people can rest assured that the illustration found near the canal is just an illustration.
Unfortunately, I didnt memorise all the names, but HRTB will be doing another one and, ah, damn it, I forgot the rest. It was 10 buildings all in all.

I might go down and check that later, anyway, here are some pictures:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/Tjuvholmen.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2947.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3129.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF2950.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3037.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3131.jpg

Right, so the architects chosen for upcoming phases of development are:
1. Renzo Piano (we knew that of course) 2.Mir architects (we knew that too) 3. Hansen/Bjørndal 4 & 7. Jensen & Skodvin (two buildings by them) 5. Torstein Ramberg 6. Lund Hagem 8. Mellbye 9. HRTB and 10. LOF architects.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/Tjuvholmenoversikt.jpg

Open day this thursdag:
http://www.tjuvholmen.com/?did=9082314

I believe this is an unseen render, accompanied by the news (http://www.tjuvholmen.com/?did=9082392) that Handelsbanken is renting in the L-building:
http://www.tjuvholmen.com/arch/_img/w596/9082390.jpg

^^ Good news for Tjuvholmen!

Maybe not "Hot news" for the biggest nerds among us, but a new fashion brand soon opens a store next to the restaurant The Edge, it's called Green Square. (http://www.greensquareconcept.com/no/main.php)


Now, can we see the final renders for the tower soon now already bitte please???

Renzo Piano now have the museum project on his web site, but our questions regarding hight and design of the tower is not answered:?


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/AstrupFearnley.jpg

It's a secret until it is done?! Maybe Ingenioren can go down and check the Oslo municipal files... If they want to start building soon, then they have to go out with this soon!

I watched safari on NRK some month ago, where Piano wanted a tower with two spiral stairs; one for walking up and one for down, like in that last render. Not sure about the hight, but the higher the better.

I watched safari on NRK some month ago, where Piano wanted a tower with two spiral stairs; one for walking up and one for down, like in that last render. Not sure about the hight, but the higher the better.

If I remember correct, he had to change the design because the planned lift could not be build as he wanted. The spiral stairs could be great, but i don't believe in a tower without a lift. Easy access for everybody is important for the project.

I'm hoping for a surprise here, and a 100 m high tower with a brand new design:)

The first tower was 90 metres but lift did only take you up to 45 metres if I remember correct. Anything less than 100 metres would be pretty pointless.

The first tower was 90 metres but lift did only take you up to 45 metres if I remember correct. Anything less than 100 metres would be pretty pointless.

They should build a 200m tower, they could have it out in the water between Tjuvholmen and Filipstad, and build a cool type of bridge.

Lol, I know it won't happen. :lol: But would've been cool tho...

Not sure that it should be 200 m, but I liked the idea a lot!

They should build a 200m tower, they could have it out in the water between Tjuvholmen and Filipstad, and build a cool type of bridge.

Lol, I know it won't happen. :lol: But would've been cool tho...

We don't know where this tower will be placed? I'm a little confused; the tower is a totally separate structure from the museum? Anyway, I´m really excited about the museum - fantastic for Oslo to get a building designed by the renowned Renzo Piano.

Just came back from a stroll around the area - it's starting to look better and better. Magnificent lighting, interesting architecture, stunning location, and good layout. All the restaurants that have opened there looked pretty full, too. Wish I had the money to buy an apartment there (or of course top floor KLP - barcode), but I guess Torggata will have to do. ;)

^ Torggata is nice. We had a location for the tower, but then Piano changed his mind, and now we are clueless... Maybe he is aswell... ;P

Only stairs? This is not good regarding our hope for great heights..... How can they avoid the universell utforming rule? The E6-tower in Østfold was almost cancelled due to the lack of elevator..... I fear they will keep the tower at minimum height if only stairs are built, tough i don't mind walking in stairs - infact i prefere stairs, works very well for the eiffeltower 2. level (115 meters.) - But eiffel also have elevators for the lazy/disabled :)

^^Walking up the Eiffel tower is a freaking pain ITA! And I've done it (partly) twice!!!!

very nice activity these days on the forums. dare we ask for a new high in developing projects these days?

Very nice Ingenioren how you worked in lazy/disabled in just a slash in between. hope there are no disabled people with low self esteem issues in these forums ay? but funny, hell yeah. not enough that youre disabled, you have to be tarred by the lazy brush as well. hahahahahah.

http://www.bygg.no/id/35252?8554

the link above is to when projects will have startup on byggeindustriens home page. seems they have updated quite a lot recently, and lets for gods sake hope sales and development will keep going strong and steadily in the future. more cranes, more building spots for us to enjoy. havent the hotel project in pilestredet topped out soon. the modern grand hotel so to speak. right behind the real grand that is.

^^Yes it has. 7 floors, iirc. Not very "grand" with those small rooms, but..

New render of the Mir "Flatiron" building, construction on this should start early next year

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/testuser5_jul2009_297_NOR_mir_perfo.jpg

Next ones up are Hansen/Bjørndal, This is what they have about it on their website

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/thumcrop.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/1235391645_TJU-20090223-perspektiv1.jpg

Dont know quite what to make of these, but according to them construction should be complete by the end of next year.

Jensen & Skodvin:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/Skodvin.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/Skodvin2.jpg

those all look great.. tjuvholmen will probably be the most awesome place in norway when it comes to urbanity.

Awesome architecture buth Flatiron and those by Jensen & Skodvin, Tjuvholmen became something far better than i ever expected back in the masterplan days! :yes:

WoW, that looks just fantastic IMO. Many great buldings to follow in the next years :)

Jensen & Skodvin's description of the project:

The clients are in the process of developing a whole new part of the central Oslo city close to the waterfront. The developer decided to standardize the building blocks and to hire separate architects for each house, especially to consider the facades, so that a maximum of variation would emerge. We are commissioned to do two of the blocks.
The concepts are related, but geometrically divergent. Our main aim has been to investigate if it would be possible to individualize each of the blocks around 20 apartments. At the same time we wanted to maximize the number of corner rooms, as these are considered more valuable. We have proposed a horizontal brick band in railing height with a varying position in the plan from floor to floor and a glass wall with still another position creating room for balconies. In one house this is done with a zigzagging geometry, in the other house with curves.

Client: Selvaag & Aspelin Ramm Project architects JSA: Jan
Olav Jensen , Børre Skodvin, Torstein Koch, Sigrid Moldestad,
Thomas Knigge, Helge Lunder Static consultant: Selvaag AS
Year Planned: 2007 - 2008 Year Built: 2008 - 2011 Status:
In progress

Looks like a new building is rising on the Tjuvholmen island. Not sure which building it is though..

Does it look to be the Icon Complex?

Does it look to be the Icon Complex?

Sorry, je suis fatigue.. Icon Compex?


It was kind of dark down there, but it looked like nr 6-7 or something.. Really hard to tell :?
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/Tjuvholmenoversikt.jpg

Can't it be the Icon (Renzo Piano Building), it's supposed to be under construction by now...

Can't it be the Icon (Renzo Piano Building), it's supposed to be under construction by now...

Oh, the Piano.. Actually, it could be the smaller southern part of the complex yes. Let's hope so! :)

Oops, sorry Renzo - your tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=740260) has already been built :lol:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2564689708_ed381827f5_b.jpg

http://www.nettavisen.no/imagecache/parameter/?upsizable=true&action=resize&width=785&height=-1&url=http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00702/John_Brendmoe__T_70220716x9.jpg

Bekrefter salg av Norges feteste leilighet
Den splitter nye gigantleiligheten er på 330 kvadratmeter. Luksuskåken har terrasse på 70 kvadratmeter med panoramautsikt over havnebassenget i Oslo. Den er innredet etter alle kunstens regler av interiørarkitekt Helene Hennie.

Prisantydningen er satt til 33 millioner kroner, noe som gir en kvadratmeterpris på friske 100.000.

http://www.na24.no/article2767557.ece

^^People are crazy!!!!!:nuts:

Good investment!

^^Anything above 50.000 per sqm is pure nonsense.

You have to be quite a braggart to buy this penthouse! (or have a small penis)

I think it is a good thing that people can get rich. It's one of the core elements in capitalisme. They should be allowed to do what they want with their money, and if the apartment is nice and the investment is good I don't see any negative in this.

What i don't like is envy, but that is not the rich peoples fault..

I think it is a good thing that people can get rich. It's one of the core elements in capitalisme. They should be allowed to do what they want with their money, and if the apartment is nice and the investment is good I don't see any negative in this.

Well, you could get a very nice place to live for just a small part of that sum. Buying something where the price is 100.000 per sq meter seems to be just for showing off.

What i don't like is envy, but that is not the rich peoples fault.. I don't think people are jealous to say that a 33 million appartment is a bit crazy. And of course people can say and do what they want.

^^ Seems like Jante is alive and kicking.. :ohno:

Nice pics in the link. Fully furnished and all!

..^^ Seems like Jante is alive and kicking.. :ohno:

?

Well, you could get a very nice place to live for just a small part of that sum. Buying something where the price is 100.000 per sq meter seems to be just for showing off.

I don't think people are jealous to say that a 33 million appartment is a bit crazy. And of course people can say and do what they want.

round there? probably not...

it's all about the location.

I think it's awsome that people pay 33 mill. to live here. Shows the trend that more upper class people is living in the inner city - which is great for the city. Had anyone raised their eyes if this was a mansion at Holmenkollen costing 33 mill? Propably not.

Great news. If I was rich, I'm sure I'd have bought something similar myself:)

It's not crazy to use 33 million on an appartment, if normal household use 2,5 millions on their appartment and make 500.000 a year, this will be the same relative expense for a household making 6,5 million a year. They are paying for awsome localities and awsome architecture. It's not like it's excessive in space either? What do people use all that space for up in Holmenkollen? 4 bathrooms etc. Those are the ones who are crazy :lol:

Funny how we now have the exact same discussion in both the Norwegian and the Swedish forum:lol:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=449245&page=296

More activity at Tjuvholmen now. Looks like it is the MIR "Flatiron" that is rising, and that they have started digging where the new canal will seperate the Icon Complex.

And no photos to show for it? shame on you sir!

And no photos to show for it? shame on you sir!

Sorry for that, but it wasn't my plan when I woke up today that I should visit Tjuvholmen after work. It just happend and I usually dont have my camera with me. Don't even suggest that I could use my mobile, it's from the last millennium..:lol:

^^I've seen it rising too. Think it was 2 weeks ago. Didn't take any pictures either:D

I guess its up to me then, not that much to look at yet to be fair

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3477.jpg

The view along Tjuvholmen allé is shaping up pretty nicely

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3475.jpg

The L-building

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/DSCF3476.jpg

I might aswell pitch-in here aswell, 7/1-10 - luckily we have taken photos from different angles:

Vippetangen:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0829.jpg

Here it's easier to spot the new highrise, not often a luxerious highrise where all appartments will be rented out:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0830.jpg

Flatiron is at 1 floor:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0831.jpg

Digging the channel:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0832.jpg

Second island bridge is on the way:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0834.jpg

Groundworks for Icon:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/070110/DSC_0835.jpg

Glad to have you and your updates back, Joamox and Ingerioren:bowtie:

Updated renderings from PBE offices today:

Edit: Replaced in a new post at the bottom of page

As i expected it appers the stairs-solution for the tower has been abandoned, i hoped for this.

Location:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1007.jpg

Tower from the front/back:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1005-1.jpg

Tower from the side:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1006-1.jpg

L-building:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1022-1.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1020.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1021-1.jpg

So only one block missing design then...

Any height differences on the lift between the two tower alternatives?

Not really, it's up to 48 meters.. Just enough to pass over the rooftops of nabouring buildings. I don't like the fact that there is no obs.plattform, and i certainly don't like the fact that it's lower than Dublins spire....

Not really, it's up to 48 meters.. Just enough to pass over the rooftops of nabouring buildings. I don't like the fact that there is no obs.plattform, and i certainly don't like the fact that it's lower than Dublins spire....

Are you 100% sure this is the latest? Just saw the year 2008 was repeated on these photos..

I also thought the second alernative for the tower wasn't doable.. :dunno:

Good job getting all that info. Not sure about the tower either, I sure hope this is not the final design. Hoping for an observation tower, not just an elevator up to a mediocre hight.

I'm sure, it was sent in by Narud Stokke Wiig (Handling the casework for Piano.) on 18th decembre 2009 to PBE. What imo. wasn't douable was the stairs with regard to the Law for Universal accessebility. As you can see a large elevatorcabledevice has been added, my guess is Piano tought it wasn't looking how he planned and therefor wanted to redesign the whole tower not knowing it was impossible to remove the elevator because of Norwegian law. However i'm think i missed when i wrote it was two alternatives, after looking at it now i realise it's the same tower, only the first picture is viewed directly from the front/back.

Regarding the tower:
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2471383

I hoped the tower would stay where it is, as i would like to see it when walking down havnepromenaden from Rådhusplassen.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1020.jpg

Aha! I knew they had changed colors!

15/2-10:

Icon - now there's a lot of activity :happy:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/16feb10/DSC_0991.jpg

The bridge:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/16feb10/DSC_0995.jpg

The streetsystem, flatiron is hidden behind to the right of this.
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/16feb10/DSC_0996.jpg

View from Olav Selvaags plass towards our to solitaries (Not for too long tough.)
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/16feb10/DSC_0997.jpg

Not an update, but an aerial from June 2009, now we can see what has been done the last 8 months:

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/32051126.jpg