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desertpunk
May 15th, 2012, 05:07 AM
1991

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3418/3298519394_5db400d4ed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwilson1949/3298519394/)
19910525 58 New York, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwilson1949/3298519394/) by davidwilson1949 (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidwilson1949/), on Flickr

desertpunk
May 15th, 2012, 05:09 AM
Quick and dirty, but here you guys go. I need to get these professionally scanned.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc16.jpg[IMG]

Very cool! :applause:

Chapelo
May 15th, 2012, 06:36 AM
Sorry meh, resizing some of your pics for quotation purposes.

http://i46.tinypic.com/b5ml43.jpg

I can see why 3WTC was not built using Yamasaki's design. It would have looked severely dated by the time it was actually built in 1979-81. The final SOM design was better, and harmonized with the Twins.

http://i47.tinypic.com/mps1x.jpg

Apparently this contractor had ties to the mob. They were the company that was using asbestos in the North Tower before the city told them to stop using it.

http://i49.tinypic.com/o6jzwk.jpg

Fiduciary Trust had space on the 90th and 94-97th floors of the South Tower, and lost 88 people on 9/11. That means they had been in the WTC since it opened. Wow.

AdamIN87
May 15th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Agreed, Chapelo. The Marriott (Vista) hotel they built was much better looking than what was originally planned.

I've always loved the pictures of the North Tower and it's antenna that were taken from the South Tower observation deck. So imposing.

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1382/543284538_c904f03dd0_z.jpg

meh_cd
May 15th, 2012, 11:49 PM
I find the older antennas like the original 1 WTC, Sears, and Hancock in Chicago to be "beefier" and easier on the eyes than the skeletal type seen on 4 Times Square and what is currently planned for the new 1 WTC.

As for that old hotel design - yeah. Yikes! The design of the lowrise buildings did not translate into a taller building at all.

AdamIN87
May 16th, 2012, 02:40 AM
I find the older antennas like the original 1 WTC, Sears, and Hancock in Chicago to be "beefier" and easier on the eyes than the skeletal type seen on 4 Times Square and what is currently planned for the new 1 WTC.

As for that old hotel design - yeah. Yikes! The design of the lowrise buildings did not translate into a taller building at all.


Agreed. I think the antenna looked great on Tower 1. I like how one building had an antenna and one didn't. It made the two buildings easily distinguishable from one another.

kawasaki1994ad
May 18th, 2012, 02:58 PM
Nice videos especially for advanced searchers:
http://youtu.be/j3g12VxA4M0
http://youtu.be/FGvrv_tQBUo

Chapelo
May 19th, 2012, 05:02 AM
The Twins are BACK! Sort of...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s720x720/166065_10151112760811038_723866037_13288248_1926036882_n.jpg

Originally posted by Tectonic at WiredNY.

Cal_Escapee
May 19th, 2012, 08:42 AM
there was nothing in the world quite like the twins. Whether one thought they were dull or not is immaterial to the fact that they became the perfect abstract representation of economic might. Two twin skyscrapers dominating the most famous skyline in the world. Such an imposing presence.

I watched them being built and I thought they were butt-ugly from then until they came down. And the comparison with New York's gorgeous classics from the deco era only made them seem more brutal and unsophisticated.

WtS
May 23rd, 2012, 02:03 PM
Just saw Man On A Wire, amazing documentry.

Here is a interesting thread about visits to WTC http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1155592/board/flat/114569930

Some truely amazing artistic photo's of WTC http://www.flickr.com/photos/berkessel/sets/72057594078504008/detail/

The more I see the new buildings rise, the more I get angry that the WTC is gone :(

WtS
May 23rd, 2012, 02:08 PM
These pictures are from poster hollywoodpsychic from the imdb thread I linked above ^

September 10th 2001

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/hollywoodpsychic/nyc/004.jpg


September 11th 2001

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/hollywoodpsychic/nyc/008.jpg


Man On A Wire post 9/11 :(

http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/wp-content/b/NYorker%202.jpg

kawasaki1994ad
May 24th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Look this:
http://youtu.be/j3g12VxA4M0
http://youtu.be/FGvrv_tQBUo

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Chapelo
May 31st, 2012, 09:07 PM
What the skyline would look like today had 9/11 never happened. Notice the Goldman Sachs, W Hotel, and Beekman photoshopped into the picture.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2424/4534840922_1f704e19eb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15282330@N06/4534840922/)
NYC skyline April 2010 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15282330@N06/4534840922/) by wforan21 (http://www.flickr.com/people/15282330@N06/), on Flickr

Otie
June 14th, 2012, 08:24 PM
Never knew the World Trade Center was getting a Public Space Redevelopment (http://www.philipbabb.com/WorldTradeCenter.html#photos/WTC03.jpg)


http://www.philipbabb.com/photos/WTC01.jpg

http://www.philipbabb.com/photos/WTC02.jpg

http://www.philipbabb.com/photos/WTC03.jpg


Davis Brody & Associates
Philip Babb Associate-in-charge
Schematic Design

In 1992 the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, owner of the World Trade Center, commissioned Davis Brody & Associates to develop a master plan for the redevelopment of the Center’s public spaces. The public spaces of the World Trade Center complex included the large open-air plaza plus 500,000 square feet of interior retail and circulation space on four different levels.

In 1994 a schematic design was developed to better define the architectural components of the master plan. These components included a monumental screen covering the existing plaza, new plaza structures adding restaurant and retail space and providing new access to the concourse level below, new street-level retail space along the Center’s perimeter and a new public park surrounding the complex.

A major feature of the redevelopment project, the plaza screen was designed to accomplish the following tasks: (1) visually define and unify a three-dimensional multi-purpose outdoor space; (2) mediate the strong cross winds created by the twin towers; (3) serve as a staging element for temporary plaza events. Hung with support cables from the adjacent towers, the plaza screen would require no additional vertical supports on the plaza or concourse levels. Visible from well outside the immediate vicinity, the support cables would serve as a symbol of the New World Trade Center.

Another principle feature of the Center’s redevelopment is the crescent shape North Plaza Building. The 60-foot tall, fully glazed structure would contain dining and interior circulation space along the northern edge of the open plaza. The design successfully creates an appropriately scaled focal point for the Plaza as it provides a single, unified identity to the various tenants and functions of the building.

The schematic design also included a refinement of the master plan’s new concourse level shopping complex. This work included the enhancement of circulation patterns and user orientation, the development of the architectural aesthetics and the integration of structural, mechanical and lighting systems throughout the retail complex.

meh_cd
June 14th, 2012, 10:52 PM
I didn't even know pictures of that existed. I knew it was planned and that there were going to be some kind of latticework between the towers, and there they are.

A little busy, though.

ThatOneGuy
June 15th, 2012, 03:09 PM
I actually didn't like that plan... It would have taken away from the incredible effect of looking directly up at the towers from the plaza.

fluxion123
June 17th, 2012, 11:37 PM
Don't like it either. But I do like the "new plaza structures adding restaurant and retail space and providing new access to the concourse level below"

In an article the day before 9-11 The Westfield Group, the company that the mall got leased to, said that they were going to be "building a roof over the sprawling plaza between the Twin Towers to create more space for stores."

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2001-09-10/news/18369455_1_westfield-holdings-deutsche-banc-alex-frank-lowy

littlejohntwo
June 18th, 2012, 05:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/wtc05.jpg

is the opening in the middle of the express elevators for the observation deck or did they exit on the mezzanine?

i know they boarded on the mezzinene.

Also anyone have pics of the inside of the elevators or the outside of them in the lobby?

Lau
June 23rd, 2012, 03:26 AM
1991

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3418/3298519394_5db400d4ed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwilson1949/3298519394/)
19910525 58 New York, NY (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwilson1949/3298519394/) by davidwilson1949 (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidwilson1949/), on Flickr

2012:

......http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/kiko3/P1000596.jpg

fluxion123
June 23rd, 2012, 07:24 AM
A new picture I found that shows more into the lobby of the forgotten building, 130 Liberty Street, showing escalators leading into street level.

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/130%20Liberty%20Street/Banker2.jpg

ThatOneGuy
June 26th, 2012, 04:23 AM
^^ I sure haven't forgotten it. I've been looking everywhere for decent photos of that building and maybe its interiors.

Chapelo
June 29th, 2012, 02:46 AM
I never get tired of looking at them.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5178/5466720179_e75dfbb2c1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8534413@N03/5466720179/)
the twin towers of the world trade center looking southwest from woolworth building april 1982 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8534413@N03/5466720179/) by eralsoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/8534413@N03/), on Flickr

desertpunk
July 1st, 2012, 11:46 PM
From 1992:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7178534890_6a8f1ef319_h_d.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pecovgfx/

Unisionar
July 3rd, 2012, 04:51 AM
At the lobby I see those withe archs...what were those???

Unisionar
July 3rd, 2012, 04:55 AM
Quick and dirty, but here you guys go. I need to get these professionally scanned.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc14.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc15.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/nytimes%201971%20wtc%20insert/wtc16.jpg


I always thought the Vista/Marriott hotel was not built when the towers open in 1970-71 and was built in 1981...almost ten years later, so it means it was in the bluprints long before its construction?

Chapelo
July 3rd, 2012, 07:49 AM
I always thought the Vista/Marriott hotel was not built when the towers open in 1970-71 and was built in 1981...almost ten years later, so it means it was in the bluprints long before its construction?

It was always planned, even the 1964 site plans have the hotel, but for some reason, it wasn't actually constructed until 1979-81. Probably because of the economic downturn during most of the 70s. It was redesigned by SOM before it was built; good thing too, the original design wasn't very attractive.

MyHeartIsYours
July 3rd, 2012, 01:19 PM
awesome pictures

windowsoftheworld
July 3rd, 2012, 09:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8hgcp.jpg


Very interesting, found it on tumblr.

Chibears85
July 4th, 2012, 01:05 AM
Here is a picture that I have that is, as far as I know, The LAST picture of the World Trade Center before the first plane. This photo was taken on September 11, 2001 at 7:00am.
http://i.imgur.com/mKQOb.png

Chapelo
July 4th, 2012, 01:11 AM
This one is even closer to the time of impact. I don't remember where this is from, but this was taken the morning of 9/11.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l123/oberonwatchman/4c98cb0b.jpg

And the exif data for the photo. Note the time.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l123/oberonwatchman/exif-data.jpg

Chibears85
July 4th, 2012, 01:25 AM
This one is even closer to the time of impact. I don't remember where this is from, but this was taken the morning of 9/11.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l123/oberonwatchman/4c98cb0b.jpg

And the exif data for the photo. Note the time.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l123/oberonwatchman/exif-data.jpg
Wow!! less then 15 minutes were left... Speechless...

meh_cd
July 4th, 2012, 06:27 AM
I found that several years ago when I was looking at WTC photos. Can't remember exactly where it came from.

Chapelo
July 6th, 2012, 04:26 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/7454422278_44a0dbb156_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/7454422278/)
WTC 96 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/7454422278/) by stevensiegel260 (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevensiegel/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6195/6130708204_8b56ced468_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99031064@N00/6130708204/)
Battery Park City 8-25-1980 edited (http://www.flickr.com/photos/99031064@N00/6130708204/) by John S1536 (http://www.flickr.com/people/99031064@N00/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7282664188_5a386f43b1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34362261@N06/7282664188/)
SEP.88 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34362261@N06/7282664188/) by hedyelyakim (http://www.flickr.com/people/34362261@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6564125219_b0106a0a7f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34362261@N06/6564125219/)
TWIN TOWERS-JUNE 2001 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34362261@N06/6564125219/) by hedyelyakim (http://www.flickr.com/people/34362261@N06/), on Flickr

fluxion123
July 8th, 2012, 07:39 AM
The columns hurts my eyes.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5183/5593639465_6b59dc4872_b.jpg

desertpunk
July 9th, 2012, 04:07 AM
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000lQP3RKIep4M/s/900/720/Rajs-980126CD-0093KDKNoRetouch.jpg
http://jakerajs.photoshelter.com/image/I0000lQP3RKIep4M

BigMac
July 10th, 2012, 12:51 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7124/7536111944_ba0460155a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/7536111944

bobman
July 10th, 2012, 06:57 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8hgcp.jpg


Very interesting, found it on tumblr.

What's the story behind this?

Cloverbot
July 10th, 2012, 07:29 PM
What's the story behind this?
it looks to be a photoshop
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1891459

windowsoftheworld
July 11th, 2012, 03:13 AM
What's the story behind this?

Im guessing its a mash up of their construction and their destruction?

Davidsam52
July 13th, 2012, 03:59 AM
That's definitely a photoshop. My question is.....WHY????:ohno::ohno::ohno:

fluxion123
July 16th, 2012, 02:51 AM
Scanned this from a 1991 Insight Guide book I brought on Amazon. Forgot they had this pic.

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/130%20Liberty%20Street/IMG.jpg

ThatOneGuy
July 16th, 2012, 04:48 PM
With the notorious 130 Liberty Street.

fluxion123
July 16th, 2012, 05:12 PM
Shame that they torn down the building because it was a big box. But what other box building had a raised plaza with a bridge?

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/130%20Liberty%20Street/637.jpg

ThatOneGuy
July 16th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Yeah, it was nicer than 1 Liberty Plaza, IMO.

Chapelo
July 17th, 2012, 04:37 AM
130 Liberty was so trashed by the collapse of the South Tower. There's no way they could have salvaged the building. When the South Tower collapsed, it tore a giant gash down the north façade of the building. All of that dust and debris from the collapse of both towers entered the building through said gash and completely destroyed the interior of the structure. It probably could have been saved had the interior not been contaminated.

A friend of mine worked for a company that Deutsche Bank hired in 2002 to recover data from their computers and servers that were in the building. Every single computer that came out of that building was contaminated by dust, and there were about 8,000 computers in the building. I wish there were more pics of the interior of the building after 9/11, because there were a few where you could see the extent of the damage.

AdamIN87
July 21st, 2012, 07:07 PM
I visited NYC last week and went to the site. I was extremely impressed with the "footprints" of the two towers. Very moving. And while I've never been a huge Freedom Tower fan, I do think it looks good when you're looking at it from far away as part of the skyline and not just an individual object. It does restore some much needed height to the skyline. This was very evident when I was viewing the skyline from Liberty Island.

The Twins are still very much alive in NYC. You see them in postcards, books, and pictures of the city that street vendors sell.

http://www.goodwp.com/large/201104/17676.jpg

westernzoom222
July 27th, 2012, 12:05 PM
WTC 360cities
http://www.360cities.net/image/world-trade-center-1-new-york-city#708.03,15.67,110.0

Chapelo
July 28th, 2012, 12:00 AM
WTC 360cities
http://www.360cities.net/image/world-trade-center-1-new-york-city#708.03,15.67,110.0

WOW, very nice find! :cheers:

brehynnermraz
July 28th, 2012, 06:32 AM
http://<script src='http://img543.imageshack.us/shareable/?i=544653756545456.jpg&p=tl' type='text/javascript'></script><noscript>[IMG]http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3748/544653756545456.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/544653756545456.jpg/)</noscript>
A beautiful pic ;)

Canalero
July 29th, 2012, 02:12 AM
Awesome pictures. :okay:

desertpunk
July 29th, 2012, 09:58 AM
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6087/6063199306_457acb70b5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakerajs/6063199306/)
Statue of Liberty and Lower Manhattan at sunrise, New York City, New York aerial, foggy morning (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakerajs/6063199306/) by Jake Rajs (http://www.flickr.com/people/jakerajs/), on Flickr

AdamIN87
July 29th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Cool pic. That's an old one as there is no WFC.

brehynnermraz
July 29th, 2012, 05:28 PM
When have been taken this pic?

brehynnermraz
July 29th, 2012, 05:31 PM
http://[IMG]<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/83764136@N03/7669229456/" title="544653-756545456 por brehynnermraz, en Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8426/7669229456_bec5aed8c3.jpg" width="500" height="500" alt="544653-756545456"></a>
That is a big pic

AdamIN87
July 29th, 2012, 07:45 PM
When have been taken this pic?

The North Tower has it's antenna which was added in 1978, so it's no older than that. The WFC buildings were completed in 1987 and would have begun to rise in the mid 80's, but they clearly aren't off the ground in this picture. So I would say late 70's/early 80's.

Hudson11
July 30th, 2012, 04:24 AM
What the skyline would look like today had 9/11 never happened. Notice the Goldman Sachs, W Hotel, and Beekman photoshopped into the picture.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2424/4534840922_1f704e19eb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15282330@N06/4534840922/)
NYC skyline April 2010 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15282330@N06/4534840922/) by wforan21 (http://www.flickr.com/people/15282330@N06/), on Flickr

I think the new 4 WTC would've went well with the twins if it had been built pre-9/11

Hudson11
July 30th, 2012, 04:26 AM
What the skyline would look like today had 9/11 never happened. Notice the Goldman Sachs, W Hotel, and Beekman photoshopped into the picture.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2424/4534840922_1f704e19eb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15282330@N06/4534840922/)
NYC skyline April 2010 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15282330@N06/4534840922/) by wforan21 (http://www.flickr.com/people/15282330@N06/), on Flickr

I think the new 4 WTC would've fit in well if it had been built pre-9/11

Chapelo
July 30th, 2012, 11:38 PM
I agree, it would really add to the urban canyon feel of Lower Manhattan, and would do wonders to balance out One Liberty Plaza, and the WTC itself.

But where would you put it?

Skyscr8per
August 3rd, 2012, 07:41 PM
This one is even closer to the time of impact. I don't remember where this is from, but this was taken the morning of 9/11.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l123/oberonwatchman/4c98cb0b.jpg

And the exif data for the photo. Note the time.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l123/oberonwatchman/exif-data.jpg

This might be just me, but does anyone else see a small, dark-colored object in the sky? :? Look at the farthest right building of the WFC and follow it straight to the right. Could that be American Airlines Flight 11?

On a side note, this is a very good picture of a different era in NY history. I wish I could have seen the Twins in person!

AdamIN87
August 3rd, 2012, 09:43 PM
This might be just me, but does anyone else see a small, dark-colored object in the sky? :? Look at the farthest right building of the WFC and follow it straight to the right. Could that be American Airlines Flight 11?

On a side note, this is a very good picture of a different era in NY history. I wish I could have seen the Twins in person!


American Airlines Flight 11 came from the north. The object you see is to the southeast.

Skyscr8per
August 3rd, 2012, 11:27 PM
American Airlines Flight 11 came from the north. The object you see is to the southeast.

Oh, okay. Thanks for the info! Still, I wonder what that dark speck is. What do you think? A scratch or dirt on the lens? :?

Chapelo
August 4th, 2012, 09:48 AM
http://michaeljamescasey.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/img_5.jpg

Early-Mid 1971.

http://michaeljamescasey.com/blog/?tag=world-trade-center

AdamIN87
August 4th, 2012, 06:40 PM
Good shot. I love construction pics.

Here is a NYT article about the West St. canopy that was added to the North Tower in 1990.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/11/realestate/postings-world-trade-center-a-canopy-for-no-1.html

Another construction pic:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/images/inno-duringconstr1971-l.jpg

Davidsam52
August 4th, 2012, 10:28 PM
Oh, okay. Thanks for the info! Still, I wonder what that dark speck is. What do you think? A scratch or dirt on the lens? :?

No. it definitely looks like some sort of aircraft off in the distance. Maybe an early arrival into JFK before the madness began.....

kawasaki1994ad
August 7th, 2012, 08:46 AM
http://scribblesbylori.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/wtc002.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/user/KAWASAKI1994AD/videos

windowsoftheworld
August 7th, 2012, 08:36 PM
lovely video.

brehynnermraz
August 7th, 2012, 11:31 PM
http://1000mileproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/the-world-trade-center.jpg

I miss them : Ohno:

AdamIN87
August 8th, 2012, 06:11 AM
I miss them : Ohno:


You're not alone.

AdamIN87
August 23rd, 2012, 08:49 PM
Chapelo, did you ever have any luck in securing other North Tower floor plans besides the ones posted here?

Chapelo
August 25th, 2012, 12:53 AM
I only have the ones for floors 93-100, never did hear back from StR on the ones for 101-105. I can post the ones for 93-100 here if you guys want.

Was there a specific floor you were looking for?

AdamIN87
August 25th, 2012, 01:48 AM
I was curious about 101-105. Could you possibly do 93 if you didn't do so already?

Thanks.

Chapelo
August 25th, 2012, 09:38 AM
Here's the 93rd floor. We only occupied a very small portion of the floor, facing south. (the other part was occupied by Fred Alger).

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7633/marsh93a61.jpg

AdamIN87
August 26th, 2012, 11:34 PM
Thanks, Chapelo. Would you mind doing 94 and 95?

Thanks for doing this. These are VERY interesting to look at.

Chapelo
August 27th, 2012, 07:04 AM
I agree. I never get tired of looking at the plans for my office. Feels like 1999 was just yesterday. I caught myself looking at the plans and laughing when I found the spot where I walked face first into a glass wall when a hot girl I had a crush on walked by.

Here's the rest of the Marsh floorplans. I can post a link to the full-resolution ones if you guys want, just ask.

100 (the only Marsh floor to survive the impact.)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8715/marsh100a61.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/marsh100a61.jpg/)

99 (my floor)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/339/marsh99a61.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/marsh99a61.jpg/)

98
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5958/marsh98a61.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/211/marsh98a61.jpg/)

97
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1535/marsh97a61.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/marsh97a61.jpg/)

96
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8601/marsh96a61.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/marsh96a61.jpg/)

95 (Datacenter/Computer Cluster)
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/714/marsh95a61.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/marsh95a61.jpg/)

94
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5541/marsh94a61.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/marsh94a61.jpg/)

AdamIN87
August 27th, 2012, 01:06 PM
Thanks for doing all of them! Marsh sure made sure to use every inch of its space.

meh_cd
August 28th, 2012, 12:32 AM
I agree. I never get tired of looking at the plans for my office. Feels like 1999 was just yesterday. I caught myself looking at the plans and laughing when I found the spot where I walked face first into a glass wall when a hot girl I had a crush on walked by.

Was that the Fred Algers' employee?

Chapelo
August 28th, 2012, 12:54 AM
Was that the Fred Algers' employee?

No, this was before Joanna. The girl I was talking about was the admin assistant for the risk management group. Unfortunately, she didn't survive the attack.

meh_cd
August 28th, 2012, 06:00 AM
No, this was before Joanna. The girl I was talking about was the admin assistant for the risk management group. Unfortunately, she didn't survive the attack.

Good gravy. :ohno: Sorry again.

fluxion123
September 1st, 2012, 05:22 AM
I can post a link to the full-resolution ones

Can you post them? I need to put them in my WTC pics here.

http://s904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/Wtc%20offices/Marsh%20and%20McLennan/

Chapelo
September 1st, 2012, 05:37 AM
PM Sent. Anyone else that wants the link, PM me.

Back to pictures:

Before the WFC. If I had to take a guess, this is probably from 1975-1978. Deutsche Bank is completed, the antenna atop the North Tower hasn't been constructed yet.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7517109842_b99991a2d1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/7517109842/)
WTC 106 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/7517109842/) by stevensiegel260 (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevensiegel/), on Flickr

Chapelo
September 2nd, 2012, 04:02 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6829608753_76a6879f38_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/6829608753/)
Williamsburg Bridge 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/6829608753/) by stevensiegel260 (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevensiegel/), on Flickr

Chapelo
September 2nd, 2012, 04:03 AM
The New York Skyline I grew up with.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6771047829_bdbd88e334_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/6771047829/)
Brooklyn Bridge 29 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/6771047829/) by stevensiegel260 (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevensiegel/), on Flickr

ThatOneGuy
September 2nd, 2012, 05:27 AM
They chose to attack these towers because of how beautiful, and strong they made America look.

Brisbane_Rulz
September 2nd, 2012, 06:40 AM
My mistake, looks like you were right. On floors that Marsh McLennan occupied, the core columns were usually hidden behind walls, so I'd never seen them out in the open like this.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/im_837_lg.jpg

I walked by this sign every morning on my way to the 99th floor. I hated seeing it then, but I would give anything to walk past this sign again, take an elevator up to 99, and end up in an office full of people; people who are no longer with us.

No offence, but that statement is more powerful than any speeches that will take place in a few weeks at the site. Well said.

nyarch21
September 2nd, 2012, 07:34 AM
Does anybody have a picture of the twin towers and a picture of 1wtc taken from the exact same place so it has the same view? I would love to see a picture if anyone has one or could direct me towards one

windowsoftheworld
September 2nd, 2012, 03:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uasLk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3uDDQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SrsH4.jpg

ThatOneGuy
September 2nd, 2012, 03:55 PM
^^ Amazing :drool:

Chapelo
September 3rd, 2012, 09:52 PM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5241/5204538501_31b1f98fbd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5204538501/)
1977 lincoln Versailles World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5204538501/) by That Hartford Guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/that_chrysler_guy/), on Flickr

My mom had the Mercury variant (Monarch) of this car when I was a kid (I think it was a 78 or 79). What a landyacht.

And here's a gem I found on the Twin Towers Alliance webpage. Hmm, where have I seen this spire before? :|

http://i47.tinypic.com/213oh8j.png

windowsoftheworld
September 4th, 2012, 02:16 AM
http://i.imgur.com/kr4eQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8wrMl.jpg




And here's a gem I found on the Twin Towers Alliance webpage. Hmm, where have I seen this spire before? :|

http://i47.tinypic.com/213oh8j.png

What's wrong with dreaming? These buildings were magnificent.

ThatOneGuy
September 4th, 2012, 03:34 AM
^^That first picture :drool:

Chapelo
September 4th, 2012, 06:32 AM
What's wrong with dreaming? These buildings were magnificent.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with dreaming, I just think the TTA went the wrong way with their "Rebuild" campaign. They had the support of Trump back in 2005; they should have really done something with it. The above picture, however, is a little too disconnected from reality and probably impossible given the current progress at the site.

And since we're on the subject, even though I'm at peace with what's going up at the site, I'll still always think that they should have put the Twins right back up, but with 111 stories. That should have started the day the last pebble of debris was removed from Ground Zero. The site would have been completed years ago, and we wouldn't be dealing with a 7-story stump, nor would we be dealing with a skyscraper that may or may not be completed by 2020.

windowsoftheworld
September 4th, 2012, 07:18 AM
I didn't say there was anything wrong with dreaming, I just think the TTA went the wrong way with their "Rebuild" campaign. They had the support of Trump back in 2005; they should have really done something with it. The above picture, however, is a little too disconnected from reality and probably impossible given the current progress at the site.

And since we're on the subject, even though I'm at peace with what's going up at the site, I'll still always think that they should have put the Twins right back up, but with 111 stories. That should have started the day the last pebble of debris was removed from Ground Zero. The site would have been completed years ago, and we wouldn't be dealing with a 7-story stump, nor would we be dealing with a skyscraper that may or may not be completed by 2020.

I didn't mean to say you thought there was something wrong with it, just an open ended comment. And i do agree the twins should have been rebuilt, not just for the sake of these buildings being rebuilt but for the spirit of america. Not rebuilding always signified defeat to me, terrorism brought change and we accepted it as opposed to America bringing that change.
http://i.imgur.com/6F6iK.jpg

WtS
September 4th, 2012, 10:17 PM
I didn't say there was anything wrong with dreaming, I just think the TTA went the wrong way with their "Rebuild" campaign. They had the support of Trump back in 2005; they should have really done something with it. The above picture, however, is a little too disconnected from reality and probably impossible given the current progress at the site.

And since we're on the subject, even though I'm at peace with what's going up at the site, I'll still always think that they should have put the Twins right back up, but with 111 stories. That should have started the day the last pebble of debris was removed from Ground Zero. The site would have been completed years ago, and we wouldn't be dealing with a 7-story stump, nor would we be dealing with a skyscraper that may or may not be completed by 2020.

Never happened probably because of money - usually always is. Don't trust Mayor Bloomberg one inch. That skyline was the best in the world it will never be the same with the inferior towers they are putting in it's place. At least build 2 freedom towers like before instead of those fancy out of place designs.

Rebuilding with one extra floor would be a true 'up yours' to the terrorists.

windowsoftheworld
September 5th, 2012, 12:04 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9uhs1xuHm1qhyjtfo1_500.jpg
Massive in size.
One of the top characteristics of these towers worth of admiration.

Andy81
September 6th, 2012, 01:17 AM
As for the new WTC1, I just hope that "Al-CIAda" and friends don't decide to use it for target practice or other (not so) 'creative uses'. I hate to say it but it'll most likely be target numero-uno once completed and functional.
Is it still mostly government agencies leasing floor space there? Hardly a vote of confidence. Then again, I'm sure the high rent and memories of what happened to the old one would be somewhat of a turn-off. You'd think so wouldn't you?

I agree the Twins should've been rebuilt - as 'memorial' towers. Similar in height and design (maybe not identical) to the Twins, but with no floors. Imagine when you stand inside the 'lobby' area and look up, all you would see is the daylight pouring in all the way up, and at night time they can be gently illuminated from the inside.

I think that would be a fitting tribute, and something to grace the skyline once again. The rest of the site can be a spread of low interconnecting buildings (no higher than, say 40 floors) to make up the new WTC site.

ThatOneGuy
September 6th, 2012, 03:22 AM
It's really unlikely Al Qaeda or other terrorists will bother with the site again when there are so many other unguarded buildings...

meh_cd
September 6th, 2012, 04:46 AM
As for the new WTC1, I just hope that "Al-CIAda" and friends don't decide to use it for target practice or other (not so) 'creative uses'. I hate to say it but it'll most likely be target numero-uno once completed and functional.

This isn't the place for your garbage. Peddle it elsewhere.

windowsoftheworld
September 6th, 2012, 06:52 AM
http://i.imgur.com/doZPJ.jpg

Chapelo
September 6th, 2012, 07:15 AM
Incomplete Tobin Plaza and no 3WTC yet. Nice!

windowsoftheworld
September 6th, 2012, 07:48 AM
Correct, the site looked the best without it in my opinion.

http://i.imgur.com/8e8fV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sJ8b5.jpg

AdamIN87
September 6th, 2012, 10:11 PM
Anyone have any WTC office pictures that haven't already been posted? I've kind of hit a dead end on google.

fluxion123
September 7th, 2012, 05:28 AM
That is a very beautiful picture of the WTC in the 1970s, with the Bankers Trust Plaza bridge being constructed, and in a way it does look good without the hotel, a miniature plaza.

What year was that picture taken in? 1977 or 1978?

I judged this similar angle to be from the same time.

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/New%20York%20City/1978/4035921136_893068b9d8_o.jpg

mpvt
September 7th, 2012, 01:28 PM
when was he overpass on West st. taken down?? I know one of you smart people will know, thanks.....Dave

AdamIN87
September 7th, 2012, 05:27 PM
flux, your pic is probably about 1977, considering the antenna wasn't completed until 1978. The antenna construction looks to still be in the early process in that pic.

I love this picture:

http://cryptome.org/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg

Chapelo
September 7th, 2012, 05:44 PM
when was he overpass on West st. taken down?? I know one of you smart people will know, thanks.....Dave

Which one, the one connecting to the WFC or the actual elevated West Side Highway?

The highway was demolished starting in 1982/83, but wasn't completed until 1989.

windowsoftheworld
September 8th, 2012, 01:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/7wRrA.jpg

Chapelo
September 8th, 2012, 04:08 AM
http://my.fit.edu/~rosiene/1966wtc.jpg

From http://my.fit.edu/~rosiene/30855.htm

ThatOneGuy
September 8th, 2012, 06:01 AM
Does anybody know what that thing sticking out of the center of tower 2 in the above picture was?

fluxion123
September 8th, 2012, 07:04 AM
I read on wiki and NIST that they were originally going to put a communication antenna on both towers, thank goodness they only did one.

Chapelo
September 8th, 2012, 07:38 AM
Antennas on both towers would have ruined the skyline, and knowing the PA, they would have done it. Both towers could support one because of the hat truss that ran from 107-110, but I'm sure that the rooftop deck wouldn't have been possible if there was an antenna atop 2WTC, not to mention the radiation from the television/radio equipment would have been hazardous.

OneGuy, I want to say it looks like a crane mast, but it's too close to the crane on the SE side.

ThatOneGuy
September 8th, 2012, 10:23 PM
Yeah, one antenna was perfect. It made it easy to identify each tower, and it gave some balance.

windowsoftheworld
September 9th, 2012, 08:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/F5Iza.jpg

Andy81
September 10th, 2012, 03:45 PM
It's really unlikely Al Qaeda or other terrorists will bother with the site again when there are so many other unguarded buildings...

I think for symbolic purposes and shock value, it's gotta be up there. The site is no safer than the old one.

This isn't the place for your garbage. Peddle it elsewhere.

:nuts:

konik93
September 11th, 2012, 12:46 AM
11 years ago in New York

http://img.wikinut.com/img/3nwnv6lz1aop7c2o/jpeg/700x1000/The-pilots-call-it-severe-clear....jpeg

IGqSMHB_SK0

redbaron_012
September 11th, 2012, 02:51 PM
My most valued photo during a NY visit in 2000 . How could anyone imagine history from about right now 11 years ago ? We will never forget.......RIP
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3001/screenshotfrom201209112.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/screenshotfrom201209112.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Chapelo
September 11th, 2012, 07:15 PM
I had a small mason jar of WTC "dust" that I saved from the hood of a car on Canal Street about a week or so after 9/11. This morning, I stood in the footprint of the North Tower, 11 years ago, it would have been me walking up from the concourse and taking an elevator to the 78th floor lobby. Today, I released that jar of dust into the North Pool, returning it to the space from which it came.

I'll never forget the fine people I worked with. Sometimes I never think I'll come to terms with what happened, but it's a new day, and time to move forward.

Never forget.

http://i45.tinypic.com/35kmzpu.jpg

Radebe
September 11th, 2012, 07:23 PM
I had a small mason jar of WTC "dust" that I saved from the hood of a car on Canal Street about a week or so after 9/11. This morning, I stood in the footprint of the North Tower, 11 years ago, it would have been me walking up from the concourse and taking an elevator to the 78th floor lobby. Today, I released that jar of dust into the North Pool, returning it to the space from which it came.

I'll never forget the fine people I worked with. Sometimes I never think I'll come to terms with what happened, but it's a new day, and time to move forward.

Never forget.

http://i45.tinypic.com/35kmzpu.jpg
Sorry to hear that, Chapelo. Did you know anyone who was killed on 9/11? Must be absolutely awful to have known people who were killed in the attacks.

Chapelo
September 11th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sorry to hear that, Chapelo. Did you know anyone who was killed on 9/11? Must be absolutely awful to have known people who were killed in the attacks.

I won't get into too much detail, but I worked for Marsh-McLennan. Our offices spanned the entire impact zone in 1WTC, and we lost 350 people that day. I was off on vacation that week, but I would have been there otherwise, and wouldn't be here speaking today had that been the case.

Radebe
September 11th, 2012, 07:35 PM
I won't get into too much detail, but I worked for Marsh-McLennan. Our offices spanned the entire impact zone in 1WTC, and we lost 350 people that day. I was off on vacation that week, but I would have been there otherwise, and wouldn't be here speaking today had that been the case.

Wow. Guess it must just have been fate for you to have been off that week.

Karlos87
September 14th, 2012, 01:14 PM
Hi, i live in England, and for christmas in 2002 i recieved a gift.. a collectors model of the Twin Towers! When i was a kid i was obssessed with New York and Skyscrapers (still am) and have always wanted to go, but havent yet =( someday... So i wanted to show you my model. Its a tribute to 9/11 with a quote from George Bush. and it will be worth something one day (in the UK anyway) the American Flag is mine and i wear it every year on 9/11 jus to show my respects. RIP to all the nearly 3,000 who are now with their father xx

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/643893_3937188222920_255431053_n.jpg

N.Y.Panoman
September 15th, 2012, 03:54 AM
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/4copy2.jpg/

Davidsam52
September 16th, 2012, 03:13 AM
Hi, i live in England, and for christmas in 2002 i recieved a gift.. a collectors model of the Twin Towers! When i was a kid i was obssessed with New York and Skyscrapers (still am) and have always wanted to go, but havent yet =( someday... So i wanted to show you my model. Its a tribute to 9/11 with a quote from George Bush. and it will be worth something one day (in the UK anyway) the American Flag is mine and i wear it every year on 9/11 jus to show my respects. RIP to all the nearly 3,000 who are now with their father xx

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/643893_3937188222920_255431053_n.jpg

I remember...this model was offerred by the Danbury Mint....very good model except they deleted one low-rise building in favor of the plaque.

Apex92169
September 16th, 2012, 09:14 PM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/87c4e7ee.jpg

Apex92169
September 16th, 2012, 11:22 PM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/dda40555.jpg

Apex92169
September 16th, 2012, 11:23 PM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/ec7d20ea.jpg

Apex92169
September 16th, 2012, 11:27 PM
http://www.image-upload.net/di/UK5F/Movie1.jpg

windowsoftheworld
September 17th, 2012, 03:26 AM
Apex those are gorgeous.

mpvt
September 17th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Beautiful shots Apex!!

Apex92169
September 19th, 2012, 01:07 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/180c7892.jpg

Apex92169
September 19th, 2012, 01:08 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/139c4246.jpg

Apex92169
September 19th, 2012, 01:08 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/010d1ef8.jpg

Apex92169
September 19th, 2012, 01:09 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/e69cabd5.jpg

Apex92169
September 19th, 2012, 01:11 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Towers_zps267f330b.jpg
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Tower1_zps0fbe99a9.jpg

windowsoftheworld
September 19th, 2012, 02:02 AM
Once again apex, beautiful images, please post more.

http://i.imgur.com/RTPAG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kCkOC.jpg

ThatOneGuy
September 19th, 2012, 04:40 AM
They were so geometrically perfect, so clean, so futuristic, so imposing, so bone-chilling, so well-placed, so massive, and so tough looking, no matter the angle of view. No building in America will ever compare to these beautiful, massive monoliths.

QuantumX
September 19th, 2012, 04:54 AM
They were so geometrically perfect, so clean, so futuristic, so imposing, so bone-chilling, so well-placed, so massive, and so tough looking, no matter the angle of view. No building in America will ever compare to these beautiful, massive monoliths.

No two buildings have ever risen so high without setbacks.

windowsoftheworld
September 19th, 2012, 05:42 AM
Everything has a negative side, however, it is easy to look past it considering these towers were the epitome of magnificence.

Chapelo
September 19th, 2012, 06:32 AM
Well said gents. The only thing I'd add is that these towers were really the embodiment of New York. You'd see a skyline in a movie with two monoliths towering over everything else, and you instantly knew that it was New York. No other city can claim that as theirs.

http://i50.tinypic.com/ifude9.jpg
- screen cap from Chasing Amy (1997)

Chapelo
September 19th, 2012, 07:40 AM
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3163/2796320838_8f5cc22078_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8mobili/2796320838/)
DONT WALKr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8mobili/2796320838/) by 8mobili (http://www.flickr.com/people/8mobili/), on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3192/2795507303_ea4fa2df65_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8mobili/2795507303/)
ray of light. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8mobili/2795507303/) by 8mobili (http://www.flickr.com/people/8mobili/), on Flickr

Apex92169
September 19th, 2012, 03:24 PM
Sorry if some of these are re-posts, just trying to put up anything I have to add to the thread.

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/tumblr3_zpsfccac9e8.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/9604713a.jpg

Apex92169
September 19th, 2012, 03:47 PM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/WPplaza4_zpsc733f7dd.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/WPplaza3_zps1685b3fe.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Globe_zps586d6033.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/668dfe1e.jpg

Apex92169
September 20th, 2012, 01:25 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/ae4f4196.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/125c6503.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/cddafd49.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/b4890530.jpg

Apex92169
September 20th, 2012, 01:31 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/tumblr_m0_zpsc50d8253.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/plaza1_zps42f1aa1e.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/3246418365_143642468f_b_zpsd8788a92.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/4360700_664x1024_zpsa65d7f39.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/2607pjpeg_zps9a21a3a6.jpg

Chapelo
September 20th, 2012, 08:40 AM
The last one is definitely from Summer 2001, probably July or August. They had the banners up promoting the concerts in the plaza, really trying to liven up the place (it worked). That was also around the time they changed out the signs in front of the buildings to the red colored sign seen above.

windowsoftheworld
September 24th, 2012, 05:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/qgG28.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UmvDq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Cns7b.jpg
"The world Trade Center is a living symbol of man's dedication to world peace... A representation of man's belief in Humanity, his need for individual dignity, his belief in the cooperation of men, and, through cooperation, his ability to find greatness." Minoru Yamasaki

I find it amazing how the last part of that quote describes these buildings' aesthetic appeal so accurately. These buildings were great because of the fact that there were two of them, standing by each other, looking so strong because of each other.

Chapelo
September 24th, 2012, 10:24 PM
That's a great quote, and an excellent analysis.

https://markwalston.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/world-trade-center1.jpg

Sonic from Padova
September 24th, 2012, 11:48 PM
These pictures are incredible, they evoke a lot of memories...the last time i've seen the Twin Towers was 1997. It's a shame that these towers are disappeared for a question of ignorance, selfishness. When I've seen the construction area in 2010, I was embittered I've just looked up to the sky, trying to imagine the old towers.

but now everything is different. I connect WTC to a part of my life, when I was child, happy, carefree. After 11/9 the world is changed a lot. And I'm not the only one that think that this economic crisis depends on the political decision related to the facts of the 11/09

Apex92169
September 25th, 2012, 01:52 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Aerials/1271641676_1280x800_the-world-trade-center_zps446eb519.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Aerials/WPEastriver_zpse07455c0.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Aerials/world_trade_center_1970_630px_zps3c891756.jpg

Canalero
September 26th, 2012, 04:11 AM
Sorry if some of these are re-posts, just trying to put up anything I have to add to the thread.

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/tumblr3_zpsfccac9e8.jpg


I really like this one, just amazing. The Empire State and the WTC rising the sky.

:okay:

windowsoftheworld
September 26th, 2012, 01:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/aCOVP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z0YBZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Lt7Er.jpg

Apex92169
September 26th, 2012, 11:53 PM
Great lobby shots Windows! If anyone has more, please post!

Apex92169
September 26th, 2012, 11:56 PM
Here are a few lobby shots I've found...probably seen them here as well...

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Interior/2328021181_fb0503071a_o_zps434c01c5.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Interior/318202402_0ff92cfaa3_o_zps205f8d00.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Interior/63125264RrYdEybx32328711p228_r_zps71b7e20a.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Interior/348_zps7bab1914.jpg

Apex92169
September 26th, 2012, 11:57 PM
...and one from Windows on the World.

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Interior/WPWindows_zpsd490550c.jpg

fluxion123
September 27th, 2012, 06:07 AM
Later that part becomes the Wild Blue restaurant, which opened in 1999.

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/Windows%20on%20the%20World/Wild%20Blue/bar8.jpg

windowsoftheworld
September 27th, 2012, 06:29 AM
Beautiful shots of the restaurant.

http://i.imgur.com/skzzL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dkYQW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MCeVQ.jpg

windowsoftheworld
October 1st, 2012, 01:28 AM
http://i.imgur.com/kRvDO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nEjsb.jpg

windowsoftheworld
October 1st, 2012, 06:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Btm77.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lPJyu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qJ0Ef.jpg

windowsoftheworld
October 2nd, 2012, 05:38 AM
http://i.imgur.com/xGlqk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/z2Np5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5UqHp.jpg

Apex92169
October 3rd, 2012, 02:30 AM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/WPzConstruct_zpsd89464a4.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/WPConstruct2_zpsfd812112.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/tumblr_m3oderleNU1qcmoewo1_500_zps1d1faf0e.png

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/tumblr_66_zps6dbe6743.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/tumb880_zps1ad79870.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/cd483147.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/construct_zps80ae24a7.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/6147932220_db3ec43c70_o_zps818e8095.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/4330539347_b1f279816f_o_zpsc4253c3c.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/3910299176_a868efaa62_b_zps5c67e4eb.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/1891459_zps73c13ba4.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/07_zps54ae2eea.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/02_zpsaa3b1f45.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Construction/01const_zps966a98d5.jpg

net222
October 6th, 2012, 02:13 AM
"World Trade Center viewed from the Hudson River Dec31 2000 New York City Manhattan Camera and music George Schifini"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6028893569104873282

Apex92169
October 7th, 2012, 03:44 PM
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/WPSatellite_zps2662aa3c.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/WPclouds_zps2dd41255.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/12976v_zps93addb2c.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/stadium_zpsf02228e1.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/Snow_zpsa430c763.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/Fromlagaurdia_zpsac38aa32.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/Distance_zps38b5f2a7.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/6838193577_c031347e0a_o_zpse31070db.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/5158043929_6fce189560_b_zps8b9ece7f.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/4832082885_b576570618_o_zpse28b5795.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/4156970227_26cb538c0f_o_zps1f72bbf8.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/3743096211_b2491419cd_o_zpsc05e65e3.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/1520673184_34a680f544_o_zps94e5e9ea.jpg

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/14335v_zps4e4fcb12.jpg

WtS
October 7th, 2012, 09:29 PM
^ 2nd picture the twins look unfinished in the fog? thanks for the pictures they are amazing!

ThatOneGuy
October 8th, 2012, 04:36 AM
They were so damn cool. I like that last photo... I don't think I've seen the angles where the twins look to be just one tower.

Chapelo
October 8th, 2012, 05:51 AM
They were so damn cool. I like that last photo... I don't think I've seen the angles where the twins look to be just one tower.

I think that's probably one of my favorite angles of the Twins. It would appear quite a bit of the design for One WTC was influenced by that particular angle.

meh_cd
October 9th, 2012, 12:22 AM
^ 2nd picture the twins look unfinished in the fog? thanks for the pictures they are amazing!

I think that might be from the evening of September 10th.

Hipster Joker
October 9th, 2012, 05:42 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=world+trade+center+peace+on+earth&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=NUV0UKeYK4Tk8gSYl4HgDQ&biw=1024&bih=672&sei=RUV0UJnDCZPC9gSx9ICgDQ#biv=i|7;d|0G_ch-LSLAPDOM:

This image just gives me the willies.

Hipster Joker
October 9th, 2012, 06:42 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=world+trade+center+peace+on+earth&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=NUV0UKeYK4Tk8gSYl4HgDQ&biw=1024&bih=672&sei=RUV0UJnDCZPC9gSx9ICgDQ#biv=i|7;d|0G_ch-LSLAPDOM:

LexISguy
October 9th, 2012, 07:41 PM
Great pics I enjoy the distance one's.

windowsoftheworld
October 10th, 2012, 08:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XUwYv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ToQLY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/p85oV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oG8p3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6nS9T.jpg

windowsoftheworld
October 10th, 2012, 08:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/0xJ4r.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PJq58.jpg

LadyAmanita
October 10th, 2012, 09:31 PM
Wow, such amazing pics. Sometimes I miss those towers so much!
I remember my first trip to NYC in 2010, my hotel was in Lower Manhattan, and I remember trying to figure out what I would do on my very first day in town. (I'm not one for writing strict itineraries). It was a toss-up between going towards the two bridges nearby, or the skyscrapers of downtown. (the skyscrapers won that day, I got the bridges later) But had the Twin Towers survived their wounds (or been rebuilt), there would have been no contest, I've loved them since I was a kid and saw a picture of them for the first time, I would have gone right to them.

WtS
October 10th, 2012, 11:17 PM
I think that might be from the evening of September 10th.

:ohno:

Chapelo
October 11th, 2012, 12:57 AM
Wow, such amazing pics. Sometimes I miss those towers so much!
I remember my first trip to NYC in 2010, my hotel was in Lower Manhattan, and I remember trying to figure out what I would do on my very first day in town. (I'm not one for writing strict itineraries). It was a toss-up between going towards the two bridges nearby, or the skyscrapers of downtown. (the skyscrapers won that day, I got the bridges later) But had the Twin Towers survived their wounds (or been rebuilt), there would have been no contest, I've loved them since I was a kid and saw a picture of them for the first time, I would have gone right to them.

Nice of you to join us on SSC :banana:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5171/5389423695_a4c18dced7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44653051@N06/5389423695/)
Twin Towers, NY, 1997 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44653051@N06/5389423695/) by CloudBuster (http://www.flickr.com/people/44653051@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6065/6051651800_ddb40e41ce_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vosherov/6051651800/)
twin towers, dusk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vosherov/6051651800/) by Vladimir Osherov (http://www.flickr.com/people/vosherov/), on Flickr

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6078/6051099835_306ee07656_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vosherov/6051099835/)
twin towers, new york (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vosherov/6051099835/) by Vladimir Osherov (http://www.flickr.com/people/vosherov/), on Flickr

LadyAmanita
October 11th, 2012, 09:37 AM
Yup, I've been on skyscraperpage for years, I figure I may as well do both:) Both forums have their charms, after all:)

windowsoftheworld
October 11th, 2012, 03:36 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VaOF5.jpg

These monuments should have been rebuilt, not only bigger but taller, sleeker, STRONGER. Why would a nation not want such magnificent structures in their cities?:ohno:

fluxion123
October 11th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Which site did you get that picture from windowsoftheworld?

windowsoftheworld
October 11th, 2012, 04:06 PM
^^ i didn't get it from a site.

Chapelo
October 11th, 2012, 07:28 PM
That's a great picture; the towers look like they climb into the sky forever.

Chapelo
October 12th, 2012, 05:43 AM
Someone posted a series of shots taken in 1999 from the rooftop deck on 2WTC. In heavy fog :cheers:

I found them here: http://photos.nydailynews.com/745641521/328016195/054-wtc-1999

https://s3.amazonaws.com/olapic-medias/media/q/n/j/qnjmea/normal.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/olapic-medias/media/o/k/b/okb5y83/normal.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/olapic-medias/media/h/y/y/hyyvqg/normal.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/olapic-medias/media/w/o/9/wo9j2c/normal.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/olapic-medias/media/u/i/7/ui79cr/normal.jpg
(the view I had from my cube, if I turned around)
https://s3.amazonaws.com/olapic-medias/media/f/5/d/f5dkda/normal.jpg

fluxion123
October 12th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Somewhere in the 70's. But what date is it from windowsoftheworld?

windowsoftheworld
October 12th, 2012, 04:38 PM
1973-74

AdamIN87
October 12th, 2012, 06:34 PM
I love this picture of Yankee Stadium posted on the previous page:

Anyone know the approximate date of it?

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii584/bridiviney/Distance/stadium_zpsf02228e1.jpg

Apex92169
October 12th, 2012, 10:50 PM
That one of Yankee Stadium is from a book called "Above New York" by Paul Goldberger, which was published in 1988, so I'm guessing those shots are from around 1987 or so. Its a great book, packed with photos from all over the city, including many of the Towers.

windowsoftheworld
October 14th, 2012, 01:43 AM
http://i.imgur.com/fmq4c.jpg

:ohno:

Chapelo
October 18th, 2012, 01:48 AM
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6066/6130728957_c6a17c6f70_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/6130728957/)
WTC 8 - looking up (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/6130728957/) by stevensiegel260 (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevensiegel/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7976526099_0dfe2fddba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/7976526099/)
WTC 132 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevensiegel/7976526099/) by stevensiegel260 (http://www.flickr.com/people/stevensiegel/), on Flickr

eyaura
October 18th, 2012, 07:25 AM
At least they live on in my game/mod:
www.moddb.com/mods/g-string (http://www.moddb.com/mods/g-string)


http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x424/eyaura/WTC.jpg

ThatOneGuy
October 18th, 2012, 02:56 PM
@ Chapelo that first picture is AMAZING! I've always wondered what it woulh have looked like to look straight up from in between the columns. Spectacular. :drool: How anybody could have disliked these towers baffles me.

Chapelo
October 19th, 2012, 07:07 AM
That's definitely one of my favorite angles too. Especially that reflection.

Since the new 1WTC is now topped out, I keep comparing it to the North Tower, and it just seems like a toothpick in comparison. I like the new building, but we really got cheated on 9/11.

Cloverbot
October 19th, 2012, 08:13 AM
At least they live on in my game/mod:
www.moddb.com/mods/g-string (http://www.moddb.com/mods/g-string)


http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x424/eyaura/WTC.jpg

This reminded me that they're in the game Driver: Parallel Lines
http://i.minus.com/ibwGl5QBjMSuyw.bmp
http://i.minus.com/iyZcRoP1UQV4y.bmp
http://i.minus.com/ibavZfbFThog1I.bmp
http://i.minus.com/i7G12SWwfGiDN.bmp

takes place in 1978

ThatOneGuy
October 19th, 2012, 03:54 PM
I want that game now!

ToniH
October 19th, 2012, 04:00 PM
Well if this takes place end of the 70's, why there is a new Antenna in WTC 1 rooftop and windows are not the same in lobby. I think if the game makers study more things they are doing, they can do all lot of better and buildings look's realistic then.:bash:

Cloverbot
October 19th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Well if this takes place end of the 70's, why there is a new Antenna in WTC 1 rooftop and windows are not the same in lobby. I think if the game makers study more things they are doing, they can do all lot of better and buildings look's realistic then.:bash:
The antenna was added in '78...

ToniH
October 19th, 2012, 06:57 PM
The antenna was added in '78...

Oh, sorry my bad :sad2:
I tought that was added early in 80's

meh_cd
October 19th, 2012, 08:20 PM
Oh, sorry my bad :sad2:
I tought that was added early in 80's

Nope.

http://i.imgur.com/3EoJZ.jpg

ToniH
October 20th, 2012, 04:32 PM
This is a little offtopic, but there is coming a new movie in 2013 called "September Morn" that creators Woody Harrelson, Martin Sheen etc. demands independent investigations what really happened on 9/11/2001.

I will go to watch this movie on next year.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375220/

ThatOneGuy
October 20th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Don't waste your time with that.

Cloverbot
October 21st, 2012, 01:38 AM
This is a little offtopic, but there is coming a new movie in 2013 called "September Morn" that creators Woody Harrelson, Martin Sheen etc. demands independent investigations what really happened on 9/11/2001.

I will go to watch this movie on next year.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375220/

so is that a movie or a documentary?

windowsoftheworld
October 21st, 2012, 02:40 AM
This is a little offtopic, but there is coming a new movie in 2013 called "September Morn" that creators Woody Harrelson, Martin Sheen etc. demands independent investigations what really happened on 9/11/2001.

I will go to watch this movie on next year.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375220/

A proper investigation at this point is pointless. Why?

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/wtc091012/s_w13_RTR2QAJF.jpg

The crime scene is no more.

windowsoftheworld
October 21st, 2012, 09:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/aheOA.jpg

ThatOneGuy
October 21st, 2012, 03:25 PM
These towers were wider than most buildings in my city are tall.

OnePointWest
October 21st, 2012, 09:53 PM
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000MqRB7L2u378/s/650/650/WTC12.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00002o8FLycnxBE/s/650/650/World-Trade-Center-before-9-11-01-4.jpg

Cloverbot
October 21st, 2012, 11:21 PM
These towers were wider than most buildings in my city are tall.

same, lol

desertpunk
October 22nd, 2012, 04:52 AM
1973

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma379iVCbA1roep5no1_1280.jpg
http://nycpast.tumblr.com/page/6

Chapelo
October 23rd, 2012, 04:37 AM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8468/8114822614_244b486b4a_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27667193@N03/8114822614/)
Lower Manhattan Skyline, July 1999 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27667193@N03/8114822614/) by Chapelo (http://www.flickr.com/people/27667193@N03/), on Flickr

windowsoftheworld
October 23rd, 2012, 06:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/S0RMU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yw7ZR.jpg


They had perfect co-existance with neighboring buildings.

Chapelo
October 23rd, 2012, 06:34 AM
Yep, agreed. Once the WFC was completed, it was absolutely perfect. A "picture frame" of sorts for the two most iconic buildings of the late-20th century.

Unisionar
October 24th, 2012, 02:47 PM
Does anybody know what that thing sticking out of the center of tower 2 in the above picture was?

I always thought it was a helipad that was never used....

meh_cd
October 24th, 2012, 03:40 PM
I always thought it was a helipad that was never used....

Tower 2 had a very small helipad in the center of the outdoor observation deck. For Tower 1 they had to cut down a bunch of small antennas in 1993 so they could get people off the tower. They could have tried the same thing in 2001, but the window washing rig was stopped in that same corner, and coincidentally that was the only area that was relatively free of smoke.

Of course, landing a helicopter on top of a building that was burning like on 9/11 might not be a great idea. Helicopters don't do so well with heat updrafts like that. Plus it might have turned into one giant free for all since they could only take 1-2 people at a time.

Regardless, the NYPD aviation guys were told early into the attack that they weren't supposed to land. It was just too dangerous.

Unisionar
October 24th, 2012, 04:24 PM
Tower 2 had a very small helipad in the center of the outdoor observation deck. For Tower 1 they had to cut down a bunch of small antennas in 1993 so they could get people off the tower. They could have tried the same thing in 2001, but the window washing rig was stopped in that same corner, and coincidentally that was the only area that was relatively free of smoke.

Of course, landing a helicopter on top of a building that was burning like on 9/11 might not be a great idea. Helicopters don't do so well with heat updrafts like that. Plus it might have turned into one giant free for all since they could only take 1-2 people at a time.

Regardless, the NYPD aviation guys were told early into the attack that they weren't supposed to land. It was just too dangerous.

Yes, I knew it was impossible to land a chopper during the attacks due to the fire and smoke...
But did the towers had a helipad prior to the attacks?? for what was it used??

fluxion123
October 24th, 2012, 07:46 PM
And they were supposed to tell the firefighters first and bring some firefighters with them to the roof, a new rule the firefighters made post 1993 attack because of the publicity of the NYPD roof rescues. And the roof was lock by three different doors, one had be activated from the SCC on the 22nd floor of the north tower, which according to them wasn't working from the plane crash.

There was a landing pad in both towers, one where meh_cd said to cover up the television antenna they were going to put there and the other one on the southwest side of the North Tower which was completely hidden by smoke throughout the 102 minutes.

http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/New%20York%20City/1987/wtc-south-tower-roof.jpg
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac249/Scardybat/New%20York%20City/1981/5455127230_9500eba05c_b.jpg

Unisionar
October 24th, 2012, 11:57 PM
Now I see it! Thanks...I wonder who used those helipad, like really important CEO's from companies making a trip from the airport straight to the buildings?? because they were long before the attacks of 93 where choppers did land on the roof and rescued some people...

windowsoftheworld
October 25th, 2012, 01:56 AM
http://i.imgur.com/COiae.jpg


For the name of christ, REBUILD THESE! Anywhere!

ThatOneGuy
October 25th, 2012, 04:18 AM
^^ They were better than pretty much anything else ever built.

It sucks because the old 7 WTC and the Deutsche Bank Building were also very nice buildings :ohno:

Chapelo
October 25th, 2012, 06:53 AM
There's only one place they belong. We all know where that is.

windowsoftheworld
October 25th, 2012, 08:55 AM
There's only one place they belong. We all know where that is.

United States of America? It's obviously not happening in NYC. Washington D.C.? Chicago? Either way, this structure is just too good for it to not exist.

Unisionar
October 25th, 2012, 04:16 PM
i think we will never see the old WTC, I mean think how painfull itwould be for survivors and relatives of the lost ones to see the the replica of the towers...

windowsoftheworld
October 25th, 2012, 08:04 PM
i think we will never see the old WTC, I mean think how painfull itwould be for survivors and relatives of the lost ones to see the the replica of the towers...

This is a misconception.
I don't think seeing the towers intact would cause anyone pain, in fact, it would impart a very positive message, even to the families of 9/11 and i know back when donald trump was promoting his Twin Towers II plan, the 9/11 families were in support.
What traumatized the world is seeing the towers on fire and collapsing...

Unisionar
October 25th, 2012, 11:03 PM
This is a misconception.
I don't think seeing the towers intact would cause anyone pain, in fact, it would impart a very positive message, even to the families of 9/11 and i know back when donald trump was promoting his Twin Towers II plan, the 9/11 families were in support.
What traumatized the world is seeing the towers on fire and collapsing...

Well maybe "creating" the towers again would be impossible, since the security measures these two buildings should have, could never meet the size of the original towers...the wtc community saw an oportunity to start from 0 and they took it, I bet there were things that were not so funtional about the complex...still I sure miss them, they were amazing and beautiful, not only the towers but the complex itself

Davidsam52
October 25th, 2012, 11:25 PM
^^ They were better than pretty much anything else ever built.

It sucks because the old 7 WTC and the Deutsche Bank Building were also very nice buildings :ohno:

I must say that I like the new 7 WTC a whole lot better than the old 7 WTC. just my 2 cents.

Chapelo
October 26th, 2012, 01:34 AM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/8001251692_34daf1623a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/soulico/8001251692/)
WTC. 1980's. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/soulico/8001251692/) by dsorine (http://www.flickr.com/people/soulico/), on Flickr

Best viewed at its original size :cheers:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8308/7984879526_80071192ed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicksidle/7984879526/)
12180 World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicksidle/7984879526/) by Nick Sidle (http://www.flickr.com/people/nicksidle/), on Flickr

windowsoftheworld
October 26th, 2012, 02:54 AM
Flawless.

ThatOneGuy
October 26th, 2012, 04:38 AM
I must say that I like the new 7 WTC a whole lot better than the old 7 WTC. just my 2 cents.

I liked the old 7WTC at that site because it complemented the buildings around it better, but still, the design for the new 7WTC is nicer.

And that first picture is so stunning. Perfect, perfect buildings.

windowsoftheworld
October 26th, 2012, 06:32 AM
http://i.imgur.com/gv3IT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Oiu41.jpg

windowsoftheworld
October 26th, 2012, 06:40 AM
http://i.imgur.com/WoUOL.jpg

Chapelo
October 28th, 2012, 03:54 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4739757608_2bb947a8da_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4739165355_b5e5848b1d_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5166/5279006191_df003aac22_b.jpg
(taken during the infamous 1977 Blackout)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5210/5276179639_6ea341dffc_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5242/5279639148_2e522d6e0a_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5083/5279783014_862cd4385b_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5047/5279239375_bf7ddb02f4_b.jpg

windowsoftheworld
October 29th, 2012, 12:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/6VzNf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hsTIg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1XVGS.jpg

Chapelo
October 29th, 2012, 08:51 PM
Domination

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5143/5582980161_e2fcef6b5a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/waldo_posth/5582980161)
New York - World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/waldo_posth/5582980161) by waldo posth (http://www.flickr.com/people/waldo_posth/), on Flickr

wtcfan1996
October 29th, 2012, 11:03 PM
WOW that last picture has some real high quality!

Unisionar
October 31st, 2012, 12:54 AM
Does anybody has a picture of the survival's stair? I think I read it was on Vassey St?? I don't know... or was it beetween WTC 7 and WTC 5-6?? Any idea?

Unisionar
October 31st, 2012, 01:29 AM
Some information from the old WTC web site, amenities included if you were a tenent at he complex...

MEETING AND EXHIBIT SPACES
The Oval Room which is conveniently located on the 43rd floor of One World Trade Center is available for rental on a full or partial day basis. Comprised of an oval-shaped main room that can be divided into three separate, smaller rooms and an adjacent outer reception area, it lends itself to a variety of functions. Equipped with multi-media capabilities, this space is suitable for audio-visual presentations, seminars, and product displays. Capacities range from 35 to 250 persons, depending on event. Contact Nancy Gonzales at 212.435.3444.

The Windows on the World has over 18,000 square feet of the most dramatic private dinning rooms in New York City. A series of banquet and meeting rooms provides a myriad of choices for every special occasion -- all equipped with up-to-the minute audio-visual technology. It can accommodate everything from a private party for 12 to a seated dinner for 600, or a reception for 1000. Call 212.524.7000.

The New York Marriott World Trade Center Hotel offers over 26,000 square feet of flexible function space for business and social events. The meeting facilities include an 8,160 square foot ballroom and 14 suites. Call 212.938.9100 for more information.

For trade shows and larger events, you'll find the Mezzanine the ideal setting. Boasting 54-foot ceilings and arched windows, the mezzanine delivers over 12,000 spacious square feet of exhibition space. Contact Patricia Mescall at 212.266.6137.

The World Trade Institute of Pace University located on the 55th Floor of One World Trade Center offers meeting and seminar rooms that can accommodate 10 to 255 people with writing tables for note taking. Call 212.346.1177.

The Austin J. Tobin Plaza, joining One and Two World Trade Center, is ideal for large, outdoor events. Contact Lila Speciner at 212.435.5224.

EDUCATIONAL/TRAINING SERVICES
Located in One World Trade Center, The World Trade Institute of Pace University offers seminars covering international trade and logistics as well as transportation and legal issues. The World Trade Institute's School of International Trade and Commerce conducts job-oriented courses in international business. The Institute, through its Language Center, provides language training in 10 languages on a regular basis, as well as additional languages upon request. Translation services are provided upon request. Call 212.346.1177

MEDICAL/DENTAL SERVICES
Two private medical providers, Affiliated Physicians at Five World Trade Center, (212.938.1188) and Dr. Tadasu Tokumaru at One World Trade, (212.775.1218) are available on site. The World Trade Center Dental Group at Five World Trade Center, (212.466.0088) provides dental care.

CHILDREN'S DISCOVERY CENTER
The Children's Discovery Center, located at Five World Trade Center, offers childcare programs, from infant through second grade, year round. The Center accepts children for as long as ten hours a day, five days a week and is open from 7:30 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Pre-scheduled back-up or drop-in care is available upon request. The Center is accredited by the National Association for the Education of Young Children. Contact Charlene Melville at 212.432.6806.

FITNESS CENTER
Connected to the World Trade Center complex, The New York Marriott World Trade Center Hotel offers a fully equipped health club -- the Fitness Center. Facilities include an indoor pool, indoor jogging track, racquetball court, saunas, and masseuse and exercise equipment. It occupies the entire 22nd floor of this luxury hotel and is open to public membership. Call 212.938.9100 for information.

RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS
Tenants can take advantage of over 80 stores, restaurants and eateries on site.

AIRLINE COUNTERS
Ticketing agents of American Airlines (800.433.7300), Continental Airlines (212.319.9494), Delta Airlines (800.221.1212), United (800.241.6522) and U.S. Airways (800.428.4322) maintain counters on the mezzanine of Five World Trade Center. Olympia Trails (212.964.6233 or 908.354.3330) maintains a ticketing counter and runs airport express shuttles between the World Trade Center and Newark International Airport. Buses depart and drop off at One World Trade Center on West Street approximately every 30 minutes.

POSTAL AND COURIER SERVICES
A U.S. Postal Service (212.967.8585) counter and representatives of several courier services including DHL Worldwide Express (212.775.0844), United Parcel Service (800.PICKUP) and Federal Express (800.463.3339) are conveniently located on the mezzanine level of Five World Trade Center.

BANKING AND BROKERAGE SERVICES
Full-service banks and ATMs as well as brokerages are located within the complex. They include Chase, Citibank, HSBC and Charles Schwab.

DISCOUNT THEATER TICKETS - TKTS
TKTS offers discount tickets to many current Broadway and Off-Broadway shows. Tickets are available, for cash or traveler's checks only, at a discount of 25% to 50%. At the World Trade Center TKTS booth, tickets can be purchased for shows held on the same day and for next-day matinees as well. TKTS is open on the Mezzanine of Two World Trade Center, Monday through Friday from 11 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. On Saturday, it's open from 11 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.

TOP OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER OBSERVATORIES The Top of the World Observatories on the 107th floor of Two World Trade Center are a mini-theme-park-in-the-sky. Attractions and amenities include a theater that simulates a helicopter flight above the city, telescopes, multi-lingual information video monitors, food courts and gift shops. At 1,377 feet above street level, the Observatories' rooftop promenade is the world's highest outdoor viewing platform. Top of the World is open every day from 9:30 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. For information, call 212-323-2340.

ThatOneGuy
October 31st, 2012, 05:22 AM
What I also loved about these buildings were the details that could only be seen from close up, like the gothic arches and exterior columns in the Twins, the tiny crowns and sheared corners, the gothic arched details under the overhangs at 4-6 WTC, the curved corners of 3WTC adding an art-deco element, the different forms 7WTC seemed to take from different angles, and the beautiful modernist staircase at the Deutsche. The lobbies of the twins felt like a completely different world, with the windows adding the aura of a gothic cathedral. Also their locations and site plan were perfect. They added a focal point to the lower skyline, acted as NYC's two 'guardians', and were, like a forumer said, framed by the classic buildings of old. Masterpieces, from near and far, which we will never see again.

Anybody referring to these buildings as 'bland boxes' has no understanding of architecture. :ohno:

windowsoftheworld
October 31st, 2012, 06:02 AM
http://i.imgur.com/IhIrf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/om9hk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rAFO9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nFn3P.png
http://i.imgur.com/vF4La.jpg


I can go as far as saying these towers looked more imposing and had way more dominance than Burj Khalifa.:drool:

Chapelo
October 31st, 2012, 06:19 AM
^^ Amen to that!

I'd like to introduce you to the World Trade Centers' triplet sisters. The "X, Y, Z" buildings of Rockefeller Center, built between 1966-1973, sometimes mistaken for the WTC. They are not a Minoru Yamasaki design.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6210/6125040110_f6469465e4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterzen/6125040110/)
XYZ Buildings (http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterzen/6125040110/) by Peter Zoon (http://www.flickr.com/people/peterzen/), on Flickr

fluxion123
November 2nd, 2012, 07:09 PM
A Yamasaki building that still stands today is the Bok building in Tulsa.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/The_BOK_Building.jpg

Chapelo
November 2nd, 2012, 07:33 PM
There's also the Century Plaza Towers in Los Angeles, built 1972-1975. Basically what the Twins would have looked like with wider windows.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8455/7976602581_855be27525_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandc/7976602581/)
Century Plaza Towers, Century City, Los Angeles (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dandc/7976602581/) by Dan_DC (http://www.flickr.com/people/dandc/), on Flickr

ThatOneGuy
November 2nd, 2012, 10:30 PM
Those buildings are spectacular. It sickens me how under-appreciated this architectural style is.

fluxion123
November 4th, 2012, 04:27 AM
The architectural style was, sometimes called New Formalism, which used "rigid symmetry, use of columns and colonnades or arcades, and use of high-end materials (such as marble or granite)" Minoru Yamasaki and Edward Durell Stone (designed the AOL center and General Motors Building) were the only ones who embraced this type of architecture.

Bok Tower

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h433/indy500r/IMG_7206.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/08/28/us/tulsa/tulsa-popup.jpghttp://farm4.staticflickr.com/3241/2701528438_8cbf2d66dd_z.jpg?zz=1http://ivorytower.emuviews.com/deco/images/bok_tower_base.jpg

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/bok-tower/view/?service=1


IBM building, Seattle, by Yamasaki.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Eve633Z-ouA/TbHcY6ea6oI/AAAAAAAAAyg/kBRwoBdApIM/s1600/IBM+Building+-+1963.jpg
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/pcarch&CISOPTR=1430&DMSCALE=87.62500&DMWIDTH=701&DMHEIGHT=525.75&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&REC=1&DMTHUMB=0&DMROTATE=0
http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/washington/seattle/yamasaki/0010.jpg


New Florida State Capital building, Tallahassee, by Edward.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/4859050545_9e9bcdb675.jpghttp://files2.structurae.de/files/photos/wikipedia/Tallahassee_Capitol_Complex_pr11224.jpg

Century Plaza Towers, Los Angeles, by Yamasaki.

http://www.thelocationportal.com/Century%20Plaza%20Towers/680_Front_Ext_0106_hero.JPG

Inside the building here.

http://www.thelocationportal.com/Century_Plaza_Towers.html

Chapelo
November 4th, 2012, 08:56 AM
And of course, the Twins' closest surviving relative of the style. Aon Center in Chicago, formerly the Standard Oil Building. 1970-1973 by Edward Durrell Stone.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4134/4784425811_2d49c69a2c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oleh/4784425811/)
Aon Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oleh/4784425811/) by oleh85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/oleh/), on Flickr

windowsoftheworld
November 4th, 2012, 10:46 AM
The closet to the twin are these imo
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/16187028.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/Sutty2000/wtc/6167148.jpg

The resemblance is thick.

Unisionar
November 4th, 2012, 04:13 PM
Indeed! where is this building??

windowsoftheworld
November 4th, 2012, 09:17 PM
Wuhan, China

ThatOneGuy
November 4th, 2012, 09:27 PM
What is the name of those buildings?

Unisionar
November 4th, 2012, 10:04 PM
I love those trident columns!

windowsoftheworld
November 4th, 2012, 11:07 PM
Ruitang Plaza Twin Towers.

windowsoftheworld
November 5th, 2012, 01:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/g7KkD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/19I3M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Sx6TJ.jpg

Remind me to post that last one on Xmas day :lol:

windowsoftheworld
November 7th, 2012, 01:54 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2T3NA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Z035V.jpg

Lau
November 7th, 2012, 06:15 PM
And of course, the Twins' closest surviving relative of the style. Aon Center in Chicago, formerly the Standard Oil Building. 1970-1973 by Edward Durrell Stone.


Don´t forget the Torre Picasso in Madrid:

http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundo/imagenes/2011/12/29/economia/1325177138_0.jpg


http://www.gurusblog.com/jordi/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/torre-picasso.jpg

Chapelo
November 7th, 2012, 11:50 PM
^^ Yep, almost forgot about that one! Minoru Yamasaki's last commission before his passing in 1986.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/TWIN_TOWERS_OF_THE_WORLD_TRADE_BUILDINGS_DOMINATE_THIS_VIEW_OF_THE_MANHATTAN_SKYLINE_-_NARA_-_548328.jpg/1024px-TWIN_TOWERS_OF_THE_WORLD_TRADE_BUILDINGS_DOMINATE_THIS_VIEW_OF_THE_MANHATTAN_SKYLINE_-_NARA_-_548328.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/VIEW_ACROSS_THE_HUDSON_RIVER_TO_LOWER_MANHATTAN._TWIN_TOWERS_OF_THE_WORLD_TRADE_CENTRE_DOMINATE_THE_RIVER_-_NARA_-_548387.jpg/1024px-VIEW_ACROSS_THE_HUDSON_RIVER_TO_LOWER_MANHATTAN._TWIN_TOWERS_OF_THE_WORLD_TRADE_CENTRE_DOMINATE_THE_RIVER_-_NARA_-_548387.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6068/6063173260_378d3f3e4f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakerajs/6063173260/)
New York, New York City, Brooklyn Bridge and Lower Manhattan Skyline, Twin Towers, World Trade Center (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakerajs/6063173260/) by Jake Rajs (http://www.flickr.com/people/jakerajs/), on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3118/2740173387_68781b6e43_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8534413@N03/2740173387/)
aerial view of lower manhattan looking southwest from brooklyn july 1973 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8534413@N03/2740173387/) by eralsoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/8534413@N03/), on Flickr

Lau
November 12th, 2012, 11:27 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8fk7nxCVS1rcmfqho1_1280.jpg

Chapelo
November 13th, 2012, 02:34 AM
Minoru Yamasaki and his staff with their model of the World Trade Center, 1971. Photo by Joe Vaccaro. Originally found here (http://www.skyscraper.org/EXHIBITIONS/WTC_MONUMENT/CONTENT/html/main_yamasakiL.html)

http://www.skyscraper.org/EXHIBITIONS/WTC_MONUMENT/CONTENT/html/Pics/wtcyamasaki.jpg

If you look carefully, you can see a model skyscraper where 7WTC would have been. Maybe a building that was never built?