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g-man430
December 21st, 2007, 12:22 AM
:ohno: We can fund over $400 billion for a war, but nothing for our own people who need it. What a sad society we live in.

Photos of protest: http://www.nola.com/katrinaphotos/tp/gallery.ssf?cgi-bin/view_gallery.cgi/nola/view_gallery.ata?g_id=9468

Video: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/12/20/nat.nola.housing.protest.clash.wdsu

Council seems ready to approve demolitions

by Gwen Filosa and Coleman Warner, Staff writers

Wednesday December 19, 2007, 12:22 PM

The New Orleans City Council appears poised to approve today the demolition of four of the city's public housing complexes, with four of its seven members signaling approval and one backing demolition of at least one of the aging complexes.

Council members Jackie Clarkson, Stacy Head and Shelley Midura said in interviews this week that they will vote to approve the demolition permits requested by federal housing officials. A spokeswoman for Council President Arnie Fielkow confirmed Wednesday that he will vote for the demolitions.

Cynthia Hedge-Morrell said she would vote for the demolition of the development in her district, the St. Bernard complex, but wouldn't disclose her position on the remaining three complexes: B.W. Cooper, Lafitte and C.J. Peete. Together, the complexes are often called the city's "big four" public housing developments.

Two other members -- James Carter and Cynthia Willard-Lewis -- said Wednesday that they are undecided and declined to discuss the matter in advance of today's meeting at City Hall.

In approving the demolition of federally financed public housing units, the council finds itself in a new and controversial role of setting in motion the wrecking crews to dismantle scores of brick buildings that generations of poor people have called home.

The Housing Authority of New Orleans wanted to begin demolition of 4,500 units on Dec. 15, but a state judge agreed with the Loyola Law Clinic's attorneys that the council first must approve the permits for each of the four sites.

Though protests from activists opposed to the demolitions continue this week, some council members stood firm in their support for tearing down the aging and in some cases dilapidated complexes to make way for new developments serving families with a mix of incomes.

The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, which has had direct control of HANO since 2002, plans to oversee the development of neighborhoods that blend public housing, apartments for people of modest incomes and single-family homes for residents of various income levels.

"I'm going to vote to support redevelopment of the projects in the city," Midura said. "I'll be voting to support the path that most effectively reforms and reopens public housing. That path requires a demolition permit."

Head agreed.

"Redevelopment requires demolition," said Head, adding that the "overwhelming majority" of her constituents want Peete and Cooper transformed into mixed-income neighborhoods.

Midura's district includes the Lafitte development, which has been shuttered since Katrina, while Head's district includes C.J. Peete and B.W. Cooper. The St. Bernard development, closed since Katrina, is in Hedge-Morrell's district.

Call for improvement

Clarkson said New Orleans would be ill-advised to try to stop HUD's plans for redevelopment.

"We need to provide better housing than before Katrina," she said. "By going along with HUD, we get an opportunity to spend their money on our people."

Fielkow has made public statements recently supporting mixed-income housing, but stopped short of promising a vote for demolition. On Wednesday, a spokesperson who declined to be identified said Fielkow will back the demolitions.

Willard-Lewis issued a statement that said she has met with public housing residents and others to "find common solutions to these difficult problems."

Hedge-Morrell released a lengthy statement explaining her decision to vote for the demolition of the St. Bernard in the 7th Ward, where 1,015 families lived before Katrina.

"I would not allow my grown children or my grandchildren to reside in the St. Bernard housing development, even if it could be rehabilitated," Hedge-Morrell said. "Health and safety come first. Experts have shown that St. Bernard has too much asbestos, too much lead-based paint, too much mold."

Hedge-Morrell said she will fight to ensure that poor families who once lived at St. Bernard will be served by redevelopment plans.

Clarkson, the at-large councilwoman, recalled that her former council district included Fischer, which in recent years has been transformed from a high-rise tower and barracks-style apartments to modern housing, including a "senior village" on the West Bank.

"We did not displace the poor, and I plan to make sure we don't," Clarkson said. "We don't have to build a whole bunch of supply if there's no demand."

Vote comes today

Today's 10 a.m. council meeting is likely to draw crowds of activists, who have argued that the old buildings, many of which date to the 1940s, should be rehabbed and reopened. HUD has opposed that plan, arguing that a model that concentrates the poor in large, high-density buildings for decades is a proven failure.

The Coalition to Stop the Demolitions, an umbrella group for scores of activist groups opposing HANO's redevelopment plans, sent out instructions on protesting today's vote in an e-mail message that speculated that the council vote will fall along racial lines. Midura, Head, Clarkson and Fielkow are white, while Carter, Hedge-Morrell and Willard-Lewis are black.

Opponents of the demolitions have pushed for guarantees that HUD will agree to "one-for-one" replacement of all public housing units, but others have said such a move would relegate poor New Orleanians to public housing indefinitely.

Clarkson said last week that tearing down and redeveloping the Lafitte complex would "save Treme and rebuild the neighborhood better than before."

The Lafitte plan, by nonprofit developers Providence and Enterprise, calls for "one-to-one" replacement of the 900 public housing units there pre-Katrina, unlike the plans for redeveloping the other three complexes, which might include far fewer public housing units.

"I consider that the compromise," said Clarkson, of the Lafitte redevelopment plan.

Demand high, Landrieu says

HUD's demolition plans for New Orleans have resonated across the country, with Louisiana's two U.S. senators at odds over the future of public housing in New Orleans.

U.S. Sen. David Vitter and U.S. Reps. Richard Baker, Jim McCrery and Rodney Alexander, all Republicans, said Wednesday that New Orleans does not need as many public housing units as it had before Hurricane Katrina.

That clashes with proposed legislation by Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., who is calling for "one-for-one replacement" of the government-subsidized apartments with new mixed-income developments.

Landrieu said the need was unmet before the storm when about 6,000 low-income people were on a waiting list for the city's 7,000 public housing units. However, of those 7,000 units, only 5,100 were occupied; many were in a state of disrepair.

With rents up 45 percent since the storm, an estimated 12,000 homeless people in the city, and low-wage service-industry workers struggling to find housing, Landrieu says the demand is as great as it has ever been.

Vitter urges change

But Landrieu's Louisiana colleague, Vitter, has taken the lead in opposing the bill, saying that with just two-thirds of New Orleans' population back after Hurricane Katrina, the need for public housing has fallen off.

In a letter to U.S. Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee Chairman Chris Dodd and Ranking Member Richard Shelby, the Louisiana Republican said that if New Orleans delays redevelopment of public housing, it could lose "vital tax and financing incentives for future redevelopment."

Vitter said that public housing in New Orleans failed to help those in need and that the city should move forward with redevelopment.

"Public housing in New Orleans has for many decades tragically served almost no other purpose than to warehouse the city's poor and disenfranchised," Vitter wrote.

Some members of a loosely organized coalition opposing the demolitions held another news conference late Wednesday in front of a small Baptist church in the Lower Garden District, near the site of the River Garden mixed-income development, to insist that poor people won't be well served by a broad move to that sort of option.

Once again, they called on council members to delay a decision on demolitions to allow more time for gathering public comments.

"People, simply because they are poor, are being locked out of our city," said the Rev. Torin Sanders, a Baptist minister and Orleans Parish School Board member.

HUD and HANO officials said Wednesday that they are not lobbying City Council members but are prepared to answer questions during today's meeting.









Police, protesters clash in New Orleans

USAToday

Police used chemical spray and stun guns Thursday as dozens of protesters tried to force their way into a packed City Council chamber during a debate on the planned demolition of some 4,500 public housing units.

One woman was sprayed with chemicals and dragged from the gates. She was taken away on a stretcher by emergency officials. Before that, the woman was seen pouring water from a bottle into her eyes and weeping.

Another woman said she was stunned by officers, and still had what appeared to be a Taser wire hanging from her shirt.

"I was just standing, trying to get into my City Council meeting," said the woman, Kim Ellis, who was taken away in an ambulance.

"Is this what democracy looks like?" said Bill Quigley, a Loyola University law professor who opposes demolition, as he held a strand of Taser wire he said had been shot into another of the protesters.

Protesters said they pushed against the iron gates that kept them out of the building because the Housing Authority of New Orleans had disproportionately allowed supporters of the demolition to pack the chambers.

After roughly 30 minutes of on-again-off-again struggle to get into the meeting, protesters fell back, continuously chanting with bullhorns. An afternoon storm thinned the protesters, some of whom had been waiting since 7 a.m. to enter.

At the peak of the confusion, some 70 protesters were facing about a dozen mounted police and 40 more law enforcement officers on foot. One sheriff's deputy wept on the city hall side of the gate and was comforted by his comrades.

Details on arrests were not immediately available.

The meeting itself was mostly peaceful, although an early fight in the chambers between protesters and police caused a brief interruption. A vote on the demolitions, required by the city charter before the work can begin, was expected in the late afternoon.

The demolition debate has at times exposed class and race divisions in the city — most public housing residents are black, as were many of the protesters, while the City Council is majority white. However, support for demolition among those who spoke at the meeting crossed racial lines.

"It's about being able to walk into a house and say this is a house, not a project," said Donna Johnigan, a black public housing resident who supports redevelopment and who has clashed with residents from other housing complexes. "What we're going to demand is better housing, better schools."

But Walter Gallas, the director of the New Orleans Field Office of the National Trust for Historic Preservation, said the apartment buildings should be prized because they are sturdy and well-built. "I'd like to add a new term to the local dialogue in post-Katrina New Orleans: Planning by demolition," said Gallas, who is white.

The City Council vote is a critical moment in a protracted fight between the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and residents, activists and preservationists.

HUD wants to demolish the buildings, most of them damaged by Hurricane Katrina, so developers can take advantage of tax credits and build new mixed-income neighborhoods.

HUD says the redevelopment, which was in the works before Katrina hit on Aug. 29, 2005, will mark an end to the city's failed public housing experiment that lumped the poor into crime-ridden complexes and marooned them outside the life of the rest of the city.

Critics say the plan will shrink the stock of cheap housing at a time when housing is scarce and drive poor blacks out of the city. They also say the buildings are, contrary to popular opinion, mostly handsome brick structures that will outlast anything HUD builds in their place.

"It is beyond callous, and can only be seen as malicious discrimination. It is an unabashed attempt to eliminate the black population of New Orleans," said Kali Akuno, an organizer with the Coalition to Stop the Demolition.

greenparrot
December 21st, 2007, 01:05 AM
millions of dollars will be spent on replacing these projects...but only in a way the will be best for the city & the residents. Most of the residents want demolision of the projects...thankfully they will get their wish.

g-man430
December 21st, 2007, 01:11 AM
^^Thanks for the info. Wasn't sure whether the majority of the people living in New Orleans were for or against the project.

TU 'cane
December 21st, 2007, 01:12 AM
I read about this earlier. I hear a lot of it is also racial issues. It's all ridiculous. I'm sick of race having to squeeze it's way in.

Cannonized
December 21st, 2007, 01:19 AM
This issue will probably be misrepresented more times than I can count. Today's meeting was to approve the demolitions of the squalid housing projects in New Orleans, to make way for a new model of public housing... mixed income, lower density neighborhoods, anchored by excellent schools, community centers, etc. It is what all New Orleanians want for their city.

The majority of these protestors aren't even from New Orleans... they admit as much. For the time period set aside for supporters of demolition, residents of these projects spoke out pleading for these demolitions to go forward.

I'm sure the national media will show the 22 year old white girl from who knows where having convulsions after getting tazed. It'll be on the national news. I'm sure they'll do their best to make the rest of the country think that New Orleans and its newly elected majority white City Council is just trying to keep the blacks out of the city. They'll turn it into a racial issue. They'll make no mention of the former residents wanting them demolished. And they certainly won't mention that 75% of the protesters aren't even from New Orleans.

And they sure as hell won't mention that there are over 800 housing units waiting for people to move in that ARE NOT scheduled for demolition.

I just hope they tell it like it is. But they haven't for 2 1/2 years now, so I have no hope that they will.

TU 'cane
December 21st, 2007, 01:34 AM
unanimous vote 7-0 to tear them down anyway.

TU 'cane
December 21st, 2007, 01:35 AM
o yeah, cannnon they did announce that there were approx. 1100 housing units... some 300 already available then some 800 privately owned.

Cannonized
December 21st, 2007, 02:04 AM
Wow that's good that they mentioned that. Gotta say I'm suprised.

But seriously, I don't want these people forgotten. They need to return, and have a right to like the rest of us did. But to return them to those conditions would have been immoral.

One of the best things that was accomplished today was that the City Council recieved guarantees from HUD that every single person who lived in these developments before the storm will have a place to live in New Orleans should they decide to return... with sec 8 vouchers, available units currently available, etc...

So, it's a win-win. We drastically improve our public housing situation, and none of the ex-residents are left out. It got ugly at some points today... not because of anyone being stripped of a home, but because of ignorance of the issues by people who, for the most part, aren't even from this city. These were traveling protestors for the most part who have no idea of what public housing looked like before the storm. I'm a N.O. native, and I can tell you... it was immoral. The conditions were so bad in these developments that words really cannot explain it. Not just physically, but the comunities were forgotten... their schools ignored, crime running rampant with little effort to stop it, and innocent kids trapped in the cycle.

Today was a great day for public housing residents in N.O. And because of that, it was a great day for this city.

skysdalimit
December 21st, 2007, 02:12 AM
This is definitely a good move to demo. Mixed income works much better than cramming all the poor into one big housing project. I applaud NO on the move and hope the protesters go educate themselves on the matter before they pull the race card. It's for the better of all.

TU 'cane
December 21st, 2007, 02:17 AM
City council members said the area of the current housing units they are going to demolish had a very high crime rate. They hope by demolishing them and moving the people into the newer ones will reduce that.

Sean in New Orleans
December 21st, 2007, 02:18 AM
I'm thrilled they are tearing these dumps down...I really found it interesting that a vast majority of the protesters were white college kids, who admitted on TV that they have never even been in a project and many had never even set foot in New Orleans before. Either way it passed...and I'm glad.

xote
December 21st, 2007, 02:20 AM
Projects and zoned areas for low income housing lead to greater depravation (as firms choose to ignore areas that are clearly unattractive) and helps to breed a lot of social ills given the great concentration of poverty.

As long as the number of units is comparable, then, what's the problem? And even if its not in that zone, then, it would be better to spread low income units throughout the city.

Cannonized
December 21st, 2007, 02:59 AM
Projects and zoned areas for low income housing lead to greater depravation (as firms choose to ignore areas that are clearly unattractive) and helps to breed a lot of social ills given the great concentration of poverty.

As long as the number of units is comparable, then, what's the problem? And even if its not in that zone, then, it would be better to spread low income units throughout the city.

Perfect summary. Couldn't have said it better myself.

AKBTampa
December 21st, 2007, 08:26 PM
Wasn't one of the issues early on after Katrina, that these developments could have been opened up temporarily to house people who needed shelter immediately after the storm? I wonder if that has held any sway on the people against demolition.

Sean in New Orleans
December 21st, 2007, 08:42 PM
Wasn't one of the issues early on after Katrina, that these developments could have been opened up temporarily to house people who needed shelter immediately after the storm? I wonder if that has held any sway on the people against demolition.

No....they flooded and were filled with toxic mold...there was no letting any people inside of these buildings after the storm. It was either fix them up or tear them down (the latter is cheaper), so they are tearing them all down and rebuilding with mixed income neighborhoods.

SlidellWeather
December 21st, 2007, 11:04 PM
I was very glad that the council did not bow to the pressure of out of town protestors. The vast majority of people...both those who live in projects and not...supported the demolition of these horrible developments. These places had not been updated since the 40s...were filled with lead paint...asbestos...and mold from the hurricane. It is incomprehensible to me why someone would fight to move back into that type of situation. Obviously...these people were misinformed and had never visited the barracks style buildings.

We now have the chance of revive these areas with decent and safe housing for all centered around good charter schools and community health clinics. The new New Orleans truly began taking shape with that vote yesterday.

Bobdreamz
December 22nd, 2007, 03:46 AM
i saw the protests on the news but I'm glad too see New Orleans do the right thing. Public housing projects has to be one of the worst ideas ever formulated in the US. I don't believe in "warehousing" the poor. If we want to help those in need give them Section 8 vouchers so they can live wherever they want to.

g-man430
December 22nd, 2007, 09:14 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why these people are so upset: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0CYYPV8Nlek&feature=related & http://youtube.com/watch?v=5jvhp4iZFd0&feature=related They're going to get better housing than before.

g-man430
December 22nd, 2007, 09:37 AM
What do you guys make of this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kuQv4eAsvGE I'm not sure whether to agree with it or not.

Cannonized
December 22nd, 2007, 12:05 PM
What do you guys make of this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kuQv4eAsvGE I'm not sure whether to agree with it or not.

All you need to know is that there is a surplus of housing for those who lived in the projects before the storm. I wish we could say the same for the every day people like you and I. But those who rely on government housing have a place to live. In fact, there is a surplus of almost 1000 units for those people. That video was obviously made by someone who is totally ignorant of the facts, and it only took me 20 seconds to recognize that. I did not see the rest of the video. But the facts are the facts.

johnatl
December 22nd, 2007, 04:52 PM
What you guys are getting ready to do with the projects has been underway here for several years now. In the beginning, there was the same kind of hysteria, but it has been a resounding success. Many people (myself included) believe converting the projects into mixed use/mixed-income neighborhoods was a major catylist for the huge intown boom we are now seeing.

Great news for NOLA!

Cannonized
December 23rd, 2007, 01:05 AM
What you guys are getting ready to do with the projects has been underway here for several years now. In the beginning, there was the same kind of hysteria, but it has been a resounding success. Many people (myself included) believe converting the projects into mixed use/mixed-income neighborhoods was a major catylist for the huge intown boom we are now seeing.

Great news for NOLA!

Yeah, as a matter of fact, Westlake was brought up a lot in discussions about this. Isn't that the name of the development in ATL that was so successful? The St Bernard housing development is being done by the same group that did Westlake in Atlanta. In fact, St Bernard adjoins one of the the City Park golf courses. The Fore Kids Foundation (same group that organizes the Zurich Classic) is donating time and money to this project as well. There will be a youth golf center, possibly run in part by Tiger Woods' youth golf program. They are revitalizing that golf course, and giving the kids from this new development something to do instead of turning to the streets. It is really going to be a great development that will make a real difference in the lives of those who live in it.

gthog61
December 23rd, 2007, 03:03 AM
How come people in NO are portrayed as being so much more helpless than people in Mississippi, which after all is where the most severe part of the storm hit? I wonder about someone over two years later still needing a handout. I guess poor people in NO are useful to the traveling rent-a-mob types.

johnatl
December 23rd, 2007, 03:38 PM
Cannonized - You were close, but it's Eastlake that you're thinking of. That has most definately been the most amazing turnaround out of all of them here so far. That neighborhood used to be called Little Vietnam, it was so bad.

That is really good news to hear about the golf course being integrated. It worked here, there are innner-city kids now getting into golf with an on-site academy, etc. There is a wonderful Charter School, a state of the art neighborhood YMCA, a huge neighborhood organic garden the residents maintain, beautiful adjoining residential thats a mix of loving restoration mixed in with very cool & urban infill and new construction, new destination retail, etc. In short, an amazing turnaround that is still continuing.

We were very lucky with this one in that one of our biggest and most influential developers (Cousins) got involved early on.

Sean in New Orleans
December 23rd, 2007, 08:06 PM
How come people in NO are portrayed as being so much more helpless than people in Mississippi, which after all is where the most severe part of the storm hit? I wonder about someone over two years later still needing a handout. I guess poor people in NO are useful to the traveling rent-a-mob types.

The population of New Orleans is 5 times larger than the MS Gulf Coast so you hear more stories. Also, New Orleans had levee flooding, which lasted over two weeks and it covered a large swath of land...MS had a tidal surge that lasted about 3 hours and went about 1 mile inland. MS was leveled. Don't think stories don't come out of MS--I've heard many. But, in the end, the projects are getting leveled, so you see who has the last word?!--don't you? The crying poor are getting nowhere with their illegal antics.